Should I Delete That? - Is It Just Me: Daisy's Live Exit Interview
Episode Date: October 31, 2024As you all know - we’ve got no HR department… which is why today we’re doing a live exit interview with the legendary Daisy Grant!Daisy has left the team after two and a half years, she’s move...d to Wales to live an idyllic life with her fiance, who you all know, is also called Daisy. She’s been here since the beginning, so today we say an emotional goodbye and we remember some of our favourite moments together - and we look forward to the future of the podcast with our expanded team. Listen to Doing The MAFS with Daisy and Daisy here!Do you have an Is It Just Me for us? Email us on shouldideletethatpod@gmail.com! Follow us on Instagram:@shouldideletethat@em_clarkson@alexlight_ldnShould I Delete That? is produced by Faye Lawrence Music by Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hello, I'm much much to delete that.
I'm nice light.
I'm Tom Clarkson.
I'm Daisy Grant.
I thought we were going to introduce you, but you got it.
No, sorry.
That was really annoying.
Producer Daisy, how you doing?
I'm good.
How are you guys?
We have some sad news.
Come on.
It's okay, you do it.
I've gone.
She's gone.
She's gone.
I was like, how do I say it?
I'm out.
I'm out.
Hey, down, down.
Yeah, what's it?
Never mind.
I'm sad.
But I'm happy for you because we've just had a nice big catch up and you seem like
you're sliving.
We just like, I feel like none of us have actually, none of us have processed that this until
we're on the couch now.
I know.
I know.
And now we're going to process it all together.
I think we actually all, I think we're having like a conscious, we're having a conscious
uncoupling.
Can I lie down?
Yeah.
No.
Have you seen, who's doing a new podcast with, I think, I saw Trinny Woodall on it.
Did you see this?
And she is actually like literally laying down.
I would, with the microphone here.
I know, it looks awful.
I don't know anyway.
I, no, I, too many chins.
As you guys all know, Daisy has been with us from the very beginning, the very first episode.
How many episodes do we know?
Oh, over 200.
Oh, my God.
Probably like at least 250, I'd say.
which is fucked.
That's so many episodes.
I wonder how many hours of us talking
you have been subject to.
Don't ask, don't make a think about that.
Because if you do think about it,
like as soon as you have a GBA in an episode
as well as the episode itself,
you're well up to an hour and a half,
if not two.
Yeah.
I can't, I don't know.
I can't do it.
Wait, how many hours in the day?
Don't say stupid things.
It will be.
It will be 24 into 200 years.
50 plus probably twice that.
I can't do that.
I don't know.
Anyway,
it's been like over two and a half years basically.
I'm sorry.
No.
Don't.
You probably know it's better than we know ourselves.
I actually think I might.
You know a lot.
You know a lot.
I have to say this why your hair's so big it's for the secret.
So that hair is slicked back today.
Keep them inside.
Keep them tanked.
No.
Locked up.
No.
We never made you sign anything.
I know.
We've never signed anything.
Oh my gosh.
We've had the least official.
like work agreement over the last two and a half years
that we could have had. And I've had the most like trusting working relationship I think
with you out of anyone. So it's great. Yeah, it's been good. It's pretty lucky, isn't it? Yeah.
That could have got badly. I mean, the things I've learned. I found out about your pregnancy.
Oh my God, yeah. And I was listening. And I was listening to it. And I was like, I texted you.
And I was like, oh my gosh, I'm pregnant. And then as I kept listening.
I heard you say, maybe we need to cut that out because Daisy will listen.
And then I was like, oh God, so sorry that I know, so sorry that I know.
I got all those texts.
It was really funny because I was like, I wasn't, it was too, it was too, and I wanted to, like,
I wanted to tell you in a fun way.
You don't want to like, just, it's nice to tell people that you're pregnant.
It's fun.
Anyway, yeah, those texts are so funny.
I get a text on Daisy being like, congratulations of being, wait, I'm literally going to find
them because it was really funny.
And your pregnancy was just so frantic.
And I literally, I remember lying in bed because I was feeling really ill.
And I was like, oh, God, Daisy nose.
And I was like, oh, bloody hell, Daisy nose.
feel bad that she knows.
Oh, you have to, like, talk me down from wherever I was.
Yeah, what would it have been a congrats or a...
Well done!
Okay.
OMG.
Voice note.
Oh, Christ.
Right. Let's...
So, I don't want to...
Obviously, this was recorded a couple of weeks ago, so I don't want to be all excited,
but I've just heard you say, you're pregnant.
Ah?
Oh, my God.
Congratulations.
I hope everything's going okay.
I don't want to be too excited in case, you know, anything's going to be too excited in case,
you know, anything's happened.
So you've done that
and then they're getting along going,
now I've just heard you say,
I'll see if they can cut it.
Look at me.
Need to shock my mouth.
Not only all of that,
but then also having that on
fucking whatever speed
you've got that on.
Also me being like,
just want to cover my bases,
hope everything's going okay
with the pregnancy.
Oh my god,
a nightmare.
It's because I had leave to throw up
and you weren't coming into the studio.
That was so bad.
Do you remember?
Like, in so...
Oh, no.
Yeah.
Don't keep secrets from your producers.
There's a lesson that we've
learned. I didn't try. I think I knew you were sick but I just didn't put two and two together for ages
full yeah. Yeah. Anyway. Oh days. Yeah. You've been with us from the very beginning. Yeah. And because
we haven't had chance to do this episode for one reason or another, listeners have noticed
that you're not around. Yeah. They've been asking, where's Daisy? How? I know. Well, someone said,
who's this deck? Who's this deck? Who's this deck? Who's the hell? The teap has expanded. So let's explain.
I think we should explain.
This is a good point to do that.
Because everyone's going to, yeah, who the fuck are all these people?
Right.
Why?
Yes.
Let's explain.
Dex is not Daisy.
Dex is not Daisy.
We'll get on to that.
No, Daisy, brutal.
But Daisy moved.
Daisy moved to Wales with her fiancé, also named Daisy, as you guys already know.
Moved to Wales for the slower life.
The slower life.
Is that what you're going to say with the sun?
I was like, don't know the sun.
I haven't found it yet.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Slower life.
just more country vibe
just like relax not relaxing
just like yeah I don't know God
remote a bit more remote just easier
yeah yeah and I don't
my family are in Australia
and Daisy's family are in Wales
and it felt like it was the right move to make
you know if we want to have a family one day
and to be close by to family and have that support
and just we love it there
yeah you're happy there definitely
You're happy, though.
It's really nice.
It's nice to say.
Yeah.
And so with the podcast, we tried to make it work for a while.
We did make it work for a while.
But then ultimately, we got the studio and then we have been trying to level up.
Yeah.
And we just needed, we needed a producer that was going to be here, like, all the time.
And we kind of had dreams of, like, you coming up of the commute, which kind of unfair dreams.
We floated it, like, oh, it's a six hour commute.
Another part of it was that like the reason you guys got a studio was so that you could be more, what's the word?
Reactive, reactive, spontaneous, me living six and a half hours away does not warrant reactive spontaneity.
Yeah.
So it just wasn't aligning.
And I think, yeah, with our kids as well, it's like, you know, if we need to move stuff around and it's like, yeah.
And we did find that our best days and our, because the podcast, believe it or not, guys, it's quite a lot of work.
Did you know?
but like the best work we did
collaboratively was always on our studio days
when you were in with us
and like we just
that was when we got the best bars
we had the most fun
we could just create the best
and also we all like
from my end we all really like each other
so we want to spend time together
so it's frustrating and also
yeah it's just doing stuff remotely is annoying
and that's hard
and on a technical level as well
with the files
it's infuriate I can't
and I
I can personally
apologize now live on air
because I feel so bad
in a way that I couldn't
I need to listen to some more Jacqueline episodes
to be honest because like the guilt that I felt
that I couldn't do the technological things
that were required
Daisy none of us couldn't
we literally jumped into the deep end
to die
we bombed into the deep end
we were idiot
and also when because you obviously
so basically like when we moved into
the studio basically we needed to be getting the files
to Daisy who was in Wales and it was like it was just proving really difficult
and particularly the audio no problem yeah trailers yeah because we've got these
gorgeous cameras yeah it's like it was just a shit show yeah but then because you
days was said to us like obviously I can't like I just can't do it and we were like okay
no worries I'll make this one so I tried to make it I was like I literally wrong you I was
like I understand my Daisy couldn't do it like it's so fucking hard yeah so we did end up needing
to so we have growing the team now it's just like we've found someone
once like just basically kind of broken your because you did everything and we now have like
three people in the place of you which is crazy yeah it feels really sad but because you're
really happy in wales it also feels really nice really nice yeah like it is such a funny thing
of like I also want the best for the podcast as well and I know the best for the podcast is having
more people to do things these things even better yeah and like yeah yeah
it's I am I stumbling on my words
because it's emotional
it is emotional and it's hard
and I think that there's an element of like me
recognising that I actually can't do it all
yeah and that is hard
but you could I think the thing is it's like we
when we started this podcast we wouldn't have been able to do
anything if it hadn't been for you and like because we didn't
have a clue and we went into it so blind
but the landscape since we've started podcasting has changed
so much yeah and I love telling people that
We started this podcast and, like, haven't really had a week, like, time off for the whole time that we've done it.
No.
Like, everyone's had individual time off for different things, but, like, it's been going the whole fucking time.
That's such a feat.
But that's also a, when it's just a team of three people, that's really big.
Particularly when over the last two years, we've both had children.
You've got engaged.
You've moved to country.
and like we've tried to keep the ball up throughout like a lot and I think yeah something had to give eventually because it's not good for any of us yeah I don't think it's good for any of us for how like hard we were working ourselves and are you feeling like it's falling into it's fallen into place or it's falling into place sorry I'm asking we're asking deep questions today but yeah we are getting there I think because we have the anticipation of me having another break we've kind of we have we have
We haven't really let, yeah, we haven't really let ourselves, because we're trying this new series, as you know.
So, like, we haven't really let ourselves, like, relax because it's like, we need to make sure.
And we can be transparent.
Like, when I went and had a baby, the hits took a bit of, like, you know, the stats took a hit.
And then when Al did, they took another hit.
And we've got them back and it's really great.
And it's like, but now we need to keep on the momentum that we've built.
So I think we haven't quite settled into it feeling relaxing yet.
No, we're not in, we're not fully in our stride, but we're definitely getting there.
It's easier for the studio, isn't it?
Yeah, yeah.
And that's making a difference.
It's so great that you've got it here.
We have Dex, who is our studio manager, everyone.
Amazing.
Before we started talking to him on air.
I know, we were no intro.
Like, constantly in the episode, people keep saying, who is Dex?
Who is Dex?
Who are you talking to?
He's our imaginary friend.
He's our studio manager.
Yeah, so the team now is you've got Dex studio manager.
Yes.
You've got Faye, who is your producer.
Yes.
And we've got Celia who's doing videos.
Yes.
Fabulous.
Yeah.
It does make so much sense because it then allows people to be poorly and people
to move house and people to have time off.
Yeah.
Which when it was like Daisy as a one-man production show, it just meant you could never have it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're probably like just got into bed when we, when you did the final episode, just like,
get into bed, yeah.
Hands on chairs just like you needed like 36 hours in bed.
I would sleep now.
It's time to rest.
Yeah, exactly.
My work here is done.
Goodbye.
Good luck.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But you won't be gone forever.
Like, you're still, I'm a huge part of the show and I take that family.
Please, please let me be.
Are you kidding?
Are you kidding?
And also, like, that's, we just, I mean, speak about a good, like, conscious uncoupling.
Like, how great that we have that.
I know.
I'm so happy and so, yeah, I'm so grateful because I do.
really love you guys and it's been it's been sorry um oh god now i'm not even going to cry but
now i am um it's just been great hasn't it it's been really fun and it's put yourself together
this has been like a really important part of like my own like career journey like it's been
so fundamental in me getting out of hospitality being able to do my own things dying my own
business and like you guys have been so instrumental like this has been the most important
project i've worked on and so thank you
for allowing me to do it.
You kidding.
Thank you.
Yeah.
And we're really proud of you.
Like,
also like your skill set changed so much.
Massively.
Yeah.
Yeah, which was great.
Because you allowed me to do it.
This is so funny.
This is an exit interview like.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, my God.
It's a live exit interview.
I love this.
We never had a, um, HR department in the whole time.
Listen.
Yeah.
Probably.
Probably should.
At this point, we definitely should particularly because we all work together so closely.
So funny, isn't it?
I know.
Like, yeah, we literally share.
It's all over WhatsApp, which feels very, like, intimate.
Yeah, and also, like, with the rate that she fucking deletes messages.
I'm like, I don't like this.
I want the countability.
I want paper trails.
Not for a very long time.
Screenshots.
Screenshot and all.
I try.
She's quick.
She's speedy.
Yeah.
I think we all work together again one day.
Me too.
Yeah.
Makes sense.
As long as you, I was going to say, if you want to.
Yeah.
Definitely.
Yeah.
So, can we do something in Wales?
and I can't think of, I can't think of anything.
It's far.
It's far.
It's very nice and you're very welcome.
It's beautiful.
It looks beautiful.
It's lush.
Oh, she's done it again.
Embarrassing.
They've got you.
They've got me.
They've got me.
They've got me.
Yeah, 100% lush, lush, lush.
I was going to ask you like, what was your fun moment?
What was your favorite moment?
I've, I don't know.
Guys, listen, the producer in me, I've made a list.
Oh, good.
Oh, yes, she has.
Don't worry.
Oh, this is exciting.
So, okay.
Okay, we've got my best moments of recording.
Okay.
And, okay, so, oh, actually, this is funny that I put these in the best moments.
But when I was thinking back, I was thinking, like, one of my favorite days that we ever had was when we met Arlo, when we came over and met Arlo for the first time.
Yeah.
That was so special and nice.
And I was just, like, recording on the, holding your microphones or something, you're holding the thing on the floor.
And we had pokey balls.
Yes.
And it was just really large.
And...
Hey, her hat fits.
It fits her now.
It fits her now.
Oh my God.
Ready for winter.
Yes, ready for winter.
It's out.
Can you please put it on her and send me a picture?
I would love to.
Because I was literally just thinking.
So I knitted a bonnet for Arlo when she was born and it was...
It said it was a newborn size.
In the pattern.
Arlo's basically two.
I think the wall was stretchy and she's not a big kid.
She was like super early.
She's not massive.
Listen, it's okay.
It's not Arlo's fault.
It's not Arlo's
I'm trying to fend the pea head
Okay
I'm so happy it fits now
I know I know
And I want to see a picture
I don't know what I was thinking
Because I had only just started knitting
And then I decided to knit
I mean you're a knitter
You know
The fucking thinnest
Don't thread
And the tiniest needles
And the amount of times
You did such a good job
Thanks
Such a good job
I was impressed
I threw it
I was like
So furious
Fuck this kid
Imagine
Oh I love Arlo
so that was that was a special day yeah i loved that um and then i was just thinking about like
another like because like we said earlier like all of the kind of best times recording of
been when we've been in person yeah and i was thinking about that day that we recorded at waterloo
in that insane studio oh my god so we got offered like a this is fine to say right yeah we got offered
a like a free studio day
in the studio in Waterloo
and we were really excited
because Waterloo is a really good location
for all of us
it was a really good location
for all of us at the time
it's a brand why they were letting us try it
new purpose built podcast studio
stunning yeah see you there girls
A where the fuck is it
see you where days
how many times
to me and you go out
do we have Marlo
we went up to WS oh I was pregnant
Yeah, we went up and down the escalator
like, and you were with Jen,
you were like, and we kept asking that man.
I don't know who the man was.
There was like a security guy.
We saw him like four times.
Yeah, hello, us again.
Yeah.
Sorry, just don't know where it is.
Eventually you found it because it was, okay,
it was in the pub.
It was in the pub.
How the fuck we were meant to my man.
It was like next to a bowling alley.
Oh, I know.
They put, they also had a huge metal slide.
We couldn't even enjoy the slides.
No, because there were people just in it going, whee!
And then, way!
Every time someone bowled a strike, I was like,
how can you put a podcast studio neck?
I was literally...
It's in a train station.
In a pub.
A pub with a slide over the top and a bowling alley neck.
And we had a really good guest.
You remember, we had a really good...
Can we say it was?
We had fucking Deborah Francis.
We had, like, podcast royalty.
I was embarrassed.
We were, like, absolutely mortified.
And looking back on it now, it is so...
stupidly funny.
Oh, we did.
It was apologised.
But like, that was,
what were we meant to do?
That was hilarious.
And the cameras were like,
those bloody cameras that were like,
it did look like a prison interview room.
Yes, the amount of those that we've had over the years.
What is that about?
I know, it's like,
change your cameras.
Yeah.
Absolutely mad.
You can't say you have cameras in a studio if that's what you're giving us,
guys.
It was so funny.
It was so funny.
Yeah, so now I can look back on that and laugh.
But at the time I was like,
I don't know how I'm going to get through.
My sock kept falling down inside.
my boot that day and I was getting I remember just being irate like the whole day I was like oh my
god as if it weren't bad enough my sock won't stay up on my boot that was a physical metaphor for
the whole day that's just adding to the whole thing yeah so we wanted that to work so bad you didn't
of course we did such a good location I wasn't gutted that's just like capitalism gone fucking
mad it's to be like okay I'm like a polygaly slide a pub and also a podcast studio you know when boomers
talk about like the millennial dream or like they imagine
the millennial office that's what they built yeah i'm surprised there wasn't a fucking crazy golf
on the something this part of me as i'd been like what a cool office there's oh my god you could go down
the slide every two hours if only it worked bowl a strike every every four hours i would love to go bowling
guys we should have organized this we could have gone bowling can go bowling can you go bowling hey i know
there's a bowling alley nearby oh yeah what that one yeah that one they're not getting
my fucking money um so it ruined someone else's podcast yeah exactly
What else have I got on my list?
Sorry, this is...
This is great.
Memory Lane, indeed.
This is just a general sort of thing.
I've never heard so much about haemorrhoids in my whole life.
Really?
Until this.
Really?
Of course not.
Who else would you be married?
I never expected that the podcast would take this turn.
Did you not?
No, didn't know.
I mean, it started off with a lot of poo.
A lot of, actually, it's true.
It's the natural progression, isn't it?
How is it, how is it everything down there for both of you now?
I'm actually doing quite well, you?
No.
I'm sorry.
I was doing good.
What up, yeah.
Yeah, and then obviously I've had my iron infusion, I've been really sick.
And was that putting you off as well?
Well, I went to go give my blood and then they couldn't take my blood because I was too dehydrated.
So you need to come back when you're more hydrated.
I was like, okay, so I'll see you in like six months.
I don't know what you want for me.
I can't.
Anyway, it took an ages to get this blood.
And then for some reason I just didn't really get the results.
And then I got an email to saying,
iron is low, ferretin's low, you need to take these pills.
Yeah.
I was like, I'm not taking these fucking pills.
Yeah.
I know what those pills do.
Yeah.
I've met you before.
Yeah.
I can't handle that right now.
So I'll just wait till my next appointment and then we'll talk about it because I can't
take the pills because I'm too scared to take the pills because I didn't take the pills.
And then I nearly collapsed.
So then I called the hospital.
I was like, hey, just checking how low was my ferretin because I don't feel great.
And they're like, it's five.
Are you on the pills?
I was like, not on the pills.
Tell me what's five on the scale?
Anything over 50?
is low.
Wait, under 15.
Well, yeah.
Anything under 30 is like super low.
Anything under 15 is infusion level.
It wasn't great.
Five. Yeah, a casual five.
Anyway, so I was like, but I went into the door.
I said, please I don't make me take the pills.
And he's like, you'll be on the pills.
Don't worry.
You need to have that infusion.
So it's fine.
Anyway, I don't know if it's related, but I've been very sick this last couple of
weeks, which means I don't get any nutrition, which means I'm dehydrated, which means
it's not great.
And also haemorrhoes are the least of your troubles right now, aren't they, I suppose?
inevitability and they just come as a sort of like they're like literally like the little bow
like the little oh I'm sorry oh my god they are tied up as well aren't they
no we are guys the more you know the more you know there you go you've got a crash course
yeah I have in her emeroids yeah welcome it's okay I feel like I'm on the anti-ion pill
propaganda I feel like I'm like I work for one of this like big pharma companies against
I would have the opposite of iron is just go around telling everyone how it gives you piles
Okay, I've got one for each of you that are my favourite things that you've both ever said.
Oh, fun, okay.
Number one.
How did you choose Alex's?
Oh, I mean, so.
Okay, sorry, I've got more than one for Alex.
And I thought I need to find one for M to be fair.
Okay, well, my two favorite things that you've said are three wheel.
It's a three-wheeled.
Cars don't exist.
Two-seater cars.
Two-seater cars.
The Two Seas a Car saga.
It was incredible.
It was amazing.
It was a great day.
It was such a good day.
I loved it.
I just loved that you never knew.
And I laughed so much when that happened.
It was amazing.
It was the fact that we walked out the studio.
And it was right there.
It's there.
So good.
And then also when you thought wolves weren't real.
I forgot all of it.
about that oh my god they're like they're legends aren't they like and then you what did you say
like myths they're legends and you said like lizards yeah my life didn't say that oh
you didn't hear it and also oh god yeah it's so funny that's my favorite is when you'd be editing
something like and we would have a moment that were i would say something like lizards that i wouldn't
have heard and we were recording or i wouldn't have noticed or i'm also too thick to know that she was
wrong so we wouldn't say it and then we just get like in the group like six days away to be like
all capitals from daisy being like alphings lizards a legend you're both like what are you
talking about i bet that's i know what i meant i meant dragons honestly and then my favorite thing
that you ever said was that you know margaret atwood has left us like breaking news
margaret outward's dead i was like babe she's fine she's alive and
Well, me and the other room, like, like, what's the word?
Fact-checking, I don't think, I don't, I'm pretty sure she's still alive.
I'm pretty sure she's written another book.
And you're just like, yeah, she's left us.
No one corrected you.
She's not a bloody press tour.
Yeah.
It's not, it's not correct me.
I went, really?
Well, so did, it was Anna White House.
Yeah, and she was just like, oh, really?
And you were, and you were, like, vehement in your, like, just in your persuasion.
And we're like, it's happened.
She's dead.
Rest in peace.
And now she's just left us.
us with the legacy of The Handmaid's Tale
and it's happening. I couldn't
believe it. It's so good. I was
thinking of Hillary Mantel.
Yes. Wait, is she dead?
Yes. Oh, okay.
Wait, check that.
For some reason.
Is it happening again?
This is terrible.
I'm pretty, wait.
No, she is dead.
Hillary Mantel. It was her that I was thinking of.
I was trying to find the wolf message.
Oh my God, it would have been in like
another older chat.
Yeah. We've just, we've grown so much.
Yeah. And we've learned so much.
Well, I was going to say I've learned a lot from the podcast as well.
Margaret Atwood's not dead.
Margaret Atwood's not dead.
Yeah, we've learned about Saturn returns.
Yeah, we didn't know.
Of course.
I'm getting, I'm getting fucked by mine.
Are you?
Are you?
Like, why you've gone to Wales and don't have a movie.
Oh, maybe.
I don't work for the podcast.
Yeah.
She's upended her life, guys.
I know.
That's it.
It's a big upending of your, well, I've moved to, I've moved to Wales.
And you've left it up.
Yeah, and it's just, you know, lots of kind of different things all at once
and hitting me in the face a bit intensely.
Okay.
How is your Saturn return going?
Are you in the middle of it, do you think?
Or do you think it's past?
I can't remember, you know.
I think it's...
Because you're 30 now, congrats.
Thanks.
And it's like...
When are you 30?
May next year.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I'm like firmly in the Saturn return.
Also fucking young.
See, boy Alex quit his...
job during his sat-in-return. Yeah, there we go. And started his business. Yeah.
It was like super great timing, except I'd literally had a baby like 15 minutes before.
Sat-in-return. My boyfriend of 10 years told me was gay in my sat-in-return return. I got pregnant
the week after my sat-in-return return. I've just seen the date. Okay, that could, yeah. The week
after it finished or after it started? It started on a date and I got pregnant that week.
That's crazy. Isn't that nuts? Yeah, that's amazing. Hasn't it been fun there? Because I do think
We've learned loads about each other.
Like, we probably more than, maybe it's because we didn't have a contract.
But like, we've had like, like, no, very little professionalism in terms of, like,
we've got really good at working, because we work together so closely and you literally
know everything.
Like, we've got really, like, knowing each other.
Yeah.
I feel like we really, we know each other's strengths.
Yes.
Yeah.
Because our, Al and I, we have to do that because we do work so closely.
That is so true.
And you need to be able to, like, help each other out where possible.
Yeah.
I think you're right.
We know each other's strengths and we can.
is as well.
Yeah, and we had to work that out with you as well.
And we've had to do it as a three.
Defo.
Like, who, when can we lean on what?
And, like, it's, it's been, like, growth.
It is, like, so much growth.
A relationship as well.
Yeah.
You had to, like, manage that all together and work out how to do what's best for
everyone.
It was two years, right?
Two and a half years.
Yeah.
Because Dave was at that very first meeting we had in our old management's often.
I remember.
When it was, like, some random idea.
You edited my book.
I know.
Old podcast.
I know.
Which no longer exists, thank God.
I always forget you did that without me.
Fuck no.
I know, isn't that so weird?
I know.
We said sess and yourself, you just talk.
It was bleak.
It was just so quiet.
All I heard was silence.
Just me like, I...
Lizards are legends.
I was put in contact with you through Taylor, Taylor Robert.
Not Taylor Swift.
No.
Through Taylor.
Instantly, I thought.
I was like, wow, guys.
Through Taylor Roberts.
Who is from Perth, like me.
I love her.
And she went to school with, like, my best friend from uni.
Like, it's all very like this.
It's just so random that that's how we ended up finding each other through Taylor Roberts.
I actually want her on this podcast.
You should get, oh, she lives in America now.
Okay, no matter.
She was on Australia's next top model.
Oh.
And she also suffered with an eating disorder throughout that time, like throughout her
modeling career.
And now she does photography and stuff like.
Cool.
She's interesting.
She's very nice.
Yeah.
Is she married?
Are they married?
yeah they got married like um they eloped she got very beautiful i mean they're both very beautiful
they're both absolutely stunning so that again eloped always it always sounds like they've got
oh my god guys i've been meaning to talk to you about this have you watched rivals not yet
desperate no oh my god no i'm so excited guys i watched six episodes in a row on sunday is it really good
i love it i'm so desperate i mean i love it i think it's ridiculous it's a bit of you though
yeah like jilly coop if i could think of like one person
Yeah, I'm like, who's Jillie Cooper got a love.
No lesbians, though.
I did think that.
Not great representation.
There's one gay thing.
It's the 80s.
She's a problematic fave because...
And I'm taking it for what it is.
It doesn't take itself too seriously.
It's fun.
I love David Tennant with my soul.
I...
Whenever I need...
About once a week I watch that video of him receiving his lifetime achievement.
That's totally.
Guys, I don't know once a week.
Every week.
About that.
Yeah.
Is it good?
You haven't seen it?
No.
Is it when they played back?
You've seen it too many times?
You haven't seen it.
You don't even know.
Shut up, pal.
Is that when they surprise him by playing back all of his kind of best moments?
He doesn't know he's getting the award.
It's beautiful.
And everybody who loves him talks about how amazing he is.
Oh, that's too emotional.
Can't do that.
No, no, we're going to watch it together.
And his little face.
We're going to watch it on the big screen.
I'm going to get it on a big screen.
It's so good.
I watch it all the time.
I actually watch it yesterday.
Can we get back to your list?
Because I'm worried that we're going to miss stuff.
Oh, well
Well, was that it
That was kind of
Al wants to know
Your favourite thing about her
No
What's really good about
Working with me
I want to tell you my favourite moment
I was all working together
I'm gonna get a big tie
Oh yeah
Oh my god
That's my favourite
After that iconic
Like pivotal moment in my life
Everything started from there
It did
Two years in
Well I think my favourite was
Our very first live show
that we did in that little underground bar in hoxton
and we were terrified
we didn't think anyone was going to be there
and didn't think anyone's going to come
and people did come and you
introed you introed us didn't you
you open the show in your green
yeah it was like it was
you know what I think you were both right
it was a light green it was a light green yeah
I was ready I was ready to back my corner of there
but yeah sure okay yeah um
it was fucking green
And you introed it
And we just had such a fun night
It was great
It was so magical and so exciting
Because it was kind of one of the first times
We'd seen the listeners
Yeah
And we're like, oh, you're real
And everyone was like producer Daisy
Yeah, it was really cool
Very sweet
And I remember you being like
Can you go up and introduce us
And I was like, oh God, no problem
See you up there
Speaking of, I did
This is something that you always talk about
On the podcast
About how terrified you'd be
If you had to do stand up
I did a comedy course earlier this year
Fuck let me tell you
Most humbling experience of my life
I can't even imagine
Are you funny?
No
No
Did you have moments?
How did you?
I did have moments
I got a big laugh
It was character comedy
Which guys
You
Oh my god what even is that
I had to go home that night
Prepare something
I think it was two minutes
Of something I had to memorize
That was funny
Can you believe
I'd been there for one day
Had to go home and write something
funny that night come back in and perform it in the morning and then they kind of like pull it
apart and it's like a character that you're playing so like that's even more kind of embarrassing
and they were like okay no not working can you um okay stop stop sexy cat be a sexy cat i was like
okay i had to be a sexy cat oh my god give us a little bit of your sexy cat come on absolutely
be a gazelle i had to be a gazelle walking around okay no no not working embody a giraffe
embody a giraffe.
Can you believe this?
It was happening.
What's funny about embodying a giraffe?
I think basically I was then told I'm too confident on stage.
So I need to show more, I need to, exactly.
I need to show more vulnerability.
I was like, give me a break.
I was like, let me be confident.
I don't want to be embarrassed.
But if you were embarrassed.
I'm not even insecure gazelle.
I don't think so.
So basically, I was too confident and I need to be embarrassed if I want to do stand up.
If you were embarrassed and to show my bubble,
be like, be more confident.
Do you think they, do you think the way to can't handle?
It was a woman.
It was a woman who was a woman.
It was a woman who said it.
Yeah, well, internalised misogyny is very real.
Do you think we just can't handle, like, overtly confident women?
I think, I guess that is a preparation for the audience that's receiving you, right?
Yeah, I think you're right.
Actually, that's probably true.
I think women comedians have to jump so much higher.
They do, because you can't.
You've got this predisposition, or preconception that women aren't funny.
You have that, and then you can't be too hot because you're threatening to the women and the men fancy you,
and you can't be too ugly because otherwise they'll be like, oh, I'm not in the stress.
because I don't want to fuck you.
Yeah, exactly.
And that'll be a whole stick anyway.
Yes.
And then your whole stick can't be about being a woman.
Your whole stick can't be about being gay or, yeah, it will be any, any of the things
being a mother, even though that's interesting and funny as well.
Yeah.
So it is, you have to be left confident, bound up by all of the kind of shit that the
patriarchy throws at you and you just like, I'm just want to be funny, me love.
Yeah.
I just want to be a funny gay woman.
So have we left that with the course?
A funny gay gazelle?
No, I'll get there eventually, but I realize that, like, like.
Like, it was, wait, it was hard.
What's the, it's the end goal to be a comedian?
I would quite like to do stand-up.
Oh, fuck, Dave.
You're so brave.
Well, I haven't done it yet.
No, no, no, but you wanted.
I would genuinely, and I know this is a bold thing to say, but I'm going to say it in my chest, I think I'd sooner work in bomb disposal.
I mean it.
I mean it. There's a level of certainty with that.
There's a skill level to it.
And there's a sort of thing that it's like, when your time's up, you got, you're out.
You know what I mean?
Like, back, it's all gone wrong.
You're not there to know about it.
When it goes wrong in the comedy situation, you know full well what's happening.
I mean, who knows?
I'm probably, I'll have to give it a go eventually and I feel like I'm holding myself accountable
by saying it right now.
We will be there.
We will be there.
That's very nice.
It will be the worst place I ever go.
I think you say that you feel like you have to laugh.
Don't laugh unless you find it funny.
Don't laugh at me.
It's going to be hard.
I hate watching stand-up comedy.
If you don't think it's funny, don't laugh at me.
I laugh like a hyena at sound like comedy just so that they know they're doing well.
I remember doing that in because like,
I don't. I literally disappear into my own shoulders and have to die.
It's good. It's good. Oh, you're so brave. I've done it. But yeah.
So what's next for you? Oh my God. Love this. Well, me and Daisy, my partner,
have been working really hard on doing the maths, our podcast, which is about married at first sight.
We wanted to give that a shout out. Thanks. Yes. That's been really cool to like kind of expand that more.
We've got a Patreon now.
So that's been cool to kind of like just have that going.
So if anyone watches trash telly, you can listen to doing the maths.
And you know what?
Like, I don't really know where my career in general is going to go.
I'm not sure.
I really enjoy doing podcasts.
But I feel like there's more, but I don't know how to get it or something.
Do you know what I mean?
Saturn return.
You've got to ride this way.
I need to look at the tarot cards and tell me where they're going to go.
Something incredible.
We probably are.
This is, we had to get out your way.
So it's something like.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Us little low lives.
We're all growing.
Totally.
Like, so yeah, we need to...
Not saying totally to the low life's comment.
Totally.
Totally.
Totally. It's got me low lives.
Get them out my life.
Um, no.
It's, yeah.
It's exciting, but also scary.
But that's sat and returns, isn't it?
Yeah.
Well, that's just a life.
Like, I haven't left a job in so long.
It's so weird to like, I don't know, move on.
Yeah.
It is really odd.
I mean, look at us.
We're not doing very well at it, are we?
No.
I'm still here.
Straight back at a hour.
out for lunch. I'm going out for lunch. I bloody did the last episode like a month and a half ago.
I'm still here. It did take us a while to do this, which is a shame. No, no, no. It's nice. I'm pleased
because it felt like right. It was too rushed before. It would have been too emotional.
The only thing is I do feel bad at the listeners because they'd be like, where's Daisy gone? Like, where is she gone?
I hope they don't think that we've, you know, it's killed her. We haven't left on like, amicable turns.
For now. Because we very much have. My favorite thing before we go, sorry, is when we first met Daisy.
I must have said this on the podcast before,
but when we first met you that day in the management office,
and when you,
because you guys knew each other already,
and I already was like,
I'm going to let them,
you know, their friends, like, whatever.
And then when you, Daisy, you were leaving,
Al, you were like,
what are you up to tonight?
And, um, you, Daisy,
you were like, quiet night in,
Daisy's cooking.
Better be something delicious.
And then you walked away.
And I just spoke to Alex and I was like,
does she just talk about herself in the third person?
Daisy's cooking, better be delicious.
And obviously, I didn't know that your partner.
it was also called Daisy.
I just thought you were a lunatic.
I was like, oh my much, she's nuts.
I mean, not far off.
I mean, I would talk about myself
on the third person.
So to be honest, you probably could have dodged a whole bullet there.
Alas, here we are, two and a half years later.
It's been the best.
Thanks, guys.
Well, from us, and also on behalf of all the listeners
who know you and love you.
That's nice.
We love you so much.
Love you guys.
You are such a huge part of this podcast
and such a huge reason that it is where it is.
Oh, thanks.
We're sad, but also happy.
because you're happy in Wales
and we do know that we are going to work together
at some point, sometime in the future.
Yeah.
This will come back around.
And I think one more time
for all the listeners,
it's Friday night.
Yeah, you've been given a delivery voucher
what you're going to do.
My God.
I'm going to get a big tie.
Daisy Grant, everyone.
Thank you.
We love you.
We love you guys.
Thank you.
Thank you so much for listening.
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