Should I Delete That? - Is It Just Me: Finger guns and migratory geese

Episode Date: October 19, 2022

In this week’s Is It Just Me? the girls discuss body neutrality, crossing the road and why you should love pigeons...Follow us on Instagram @shouldideletethatEmail us at shouldideletethatpod@gmail.c...omProduced & edited by Daisy GrantMusic by Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Did you know all our glamping units have a resort, quality, Canadian-made, and eco-friendly bed? Since day one, we have proudly partnered with Colonna-based mattress company Haven, ensuring you have the best sleep possible. So it's just one more reason to visit us in the Boreal Forest. You can also try out a Haven mattress, risk-free, for 100 nights, at Havenmatress.ca. Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Should I Delete That? It's our Is It Just Me episode, and M, I would like to kick us off with my own, Is It Just Me? Hit me.
Starting point is 00:00:40 I think this one, every single week, and I always forget to say it, so I'm remembering now. Okay. Is it just me who feels like, actually this, okay, this is a two-parter. Okay. This is all about crossing the road, okay? Is it just me who, number one, when I'm crossing at the pedestrian, and crossing, I have to run. Like, I do a little run walk, little run walk.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Because I feel, because I feel bad. I know, because I feel, but I feel, I feel, I feel bad, right? At zebra crossing. At zebra crossing, yeah, that's it. I do a run walk because I'm like, oh, I feel guilty that I'm making them stop. So I like, I like, like, little, like, peg it along. I know the run walk well. Yes.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Yes. But number two, is it just me who, so I, whenever I cross at a zebra crossing, I obviously say thank you to the person who stopped, right? so I hold my hand up but then I worry I do a little wave because not a wave a proper wave but a little jiggle because I worry that holding my hands up looks like I'm trying to like stop and crossing the road do you know what I mean so I do a little wiggle I do a little like thank you wiggle hands like finger wiggle just so they know that I'm saying thank you not halt right so from the car's perspective this frantic looking woman runs across the way road waving at them just for another perspective another side to that um i get the run walk i don't do it as standard practice on the zebra crossing because i do have a little bit more dignity than that um and i think because i operate in london pretty evenly between being a driver and between being a pedestrian i kind of feel like i've got my i've got the authority in both positions do you know what i mean
Starting point is 00:02:28 I'm like, I'm going to be a good crosser and I'm going to be a good, not runner over her. And so I've struck that balance, all right. As for the wave, I can see that's a difficult thing to do. So what I do? Well, I tell you what's actually quite bad that I've been doing when I've been driving. I know you don't drive a lot, but like, particularly in London,
Starting point is 00:02:49 obviously, if you've to, like, there's a lot of spaces where you can't fit two cars, so one of you is to pull in, like, behind the bus or whatever, and then, like, one of you gets out the other's way. so when you go to thank someone you know you can give the little like steering wheel wave where you basically lift like four fingers well i've stopped doing that and i've started throwing peas i just whipped out a little peace sign and it literally happens like i can't even help it and i'm just like peace out bro and then i'm like oh my god cool but then also they probably think i'm flipping them
Starting point is 00:03:17 the bird because from a distance how he used to say what way my fingers are facing so also if i just thought someone's giving me the P sign. I would be quite judgmental. The peace sign is the thank you on the traffic in traffic. I would be a bit like not enough. Why are you giving me the P sign? Get on your fucking knees and thank me properly. This isn't a picture. I know so I've really got to stop doing it and I'm just throwing
Starting point is 00:03:43 peas out all the time. I'm probably doing it when I'm crossing the road as well and not even thinking about it. Cheers, Prane. It's so bad. I've got to stop doing that. A thumbs up might work. Thanks. Frank. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks. yeah crossing the road for a head no yeah i the way the wave is difficult i just do the little like like literally just like shove the fingers up thanks and then put them back down no i don't wiggle it's up and down no fun story i don't know if i've ever told the podcast this i don't know if i've ever told you this about sarah getting it by car at the zebra crossing she was i know this story but i don't
Starting point is 00:04:18 know if it's because of the podcast i don't know tell it anyway it was due to the podcast and you've heard it before. I'll give you the short hand, but she was running across the zebra crossing. Perhaps this is an argument for walking across it. Maybe she was just so fast at running that it was just like, blur, I couldn't even see her. And she got hit by car. She was wearing shorts. She went onto the bonnet, but
Starting point is 00:04:37 then because she was wearing shorts, she got stuck on the bonnet. So she was trying to like ch-ch-ch-ch-but the bonnet and her skin just moves a whole whole amalgamation. She was absolutely fine. She's so embarrassed. She said she made complete eye contact with the driver because it was just like as she was sprawled on the bonnet.
Starting point is 00:04:53 and then trying to, like, peel herself back off it, and then she just ran away again. So, yeah, I think of that often. I run across, you know, when you cross the traffic lights too late, well, I know you don't, because you're, like, anxious Anne when it comes to crossing the road. I prefer safety season. But when a normal person crosses the road
Starting point is 00:05:13 and they take their life into their hands and the green man's flashing and you've got to make a mad dash, that's always an embarrassing role. Yeah, don't like that. But that's the only time I will break a sweat. Okay. Okay, fair enough, that's fine. I tell you what I find very interesting.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Like, you know the Americans get, like, fined for crossing the road? J-walking. I know. Londoners would be, would be destitute. As a city, we'd be just broken. We'd have nothing left because, like, it's anarchy. We, like, what doesn't matter the time of night, wearing all black, crossing the road at two in the morning. As slow as you like.
Starting point is 00:05:45 I swear, I've seen so many people jaywalking, though, in New York. I swear. I don't think anyone actually. There's a busy people. There's a busy people. You've got to be able to cross the... Like, you know what? You take your life in your hands.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Live by the sword, die by the sword. I admire it. I've used that expression too much recently. I haven't heard you say that. Well, you're welcome. Live by the sword, die by the sword. There you go. Yeah, but I keep using it randomly intensely.
Starting point is 00:06:11 And Alex is like, doesn't need to be this intense. I'm like, don't ruin this. My life's a movie and I'm the main character. I just love it when people use expressions in the wrong way, me included my sister said the other day like completely unrelated she was like oh i just reinvented the wheelhouse and i was like i don't think you know what that means what's the wheelhouse not relevant to the situation you know it's like you're not you're not doing it
Starting point is 00:06:36 you're not coming up at anything new you're not like reinventing the wheelhouse what's a wheel house now i'm question now i'm really questioning it is it reinventing the wheelhouse i don't even know what a wheelhouse is to reinvent or is it reinventing the wheel fuck this up What's a wheelhouse? To reinvent the wheel Oh it's not the wheelhouse It's reinventing the wheel
Starting point is 00:06:57 Makes a lot more sense I was like what the fuck is a wheelhouse I'd say it's a time for a rebrand I'd say I could get busy Reinventing the wheelhouse I've never heard of it So yeah that's I don't know where that can
Starting point is 00:07:11 Wheelhouse is a phrase no It's not in my wheelhouse So what you've done is You've commixed your expressions. You've animated them. I have. I personally love to do that. Anyway, that was a fun three minutes.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Apologies, guys. Do you have anything for me? I do. I have an embarrassing story just to kick us off. And this is sent with time to sensitivity, so I have to read it out immediately so that we can set this one free. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Hi, guys. Sincere apologies, but no time for niceties, as I'm currently writing this, locked in the toilet cubicle at work. unsure when I will emerge due to the shame I walked into the office oh my god this is so apt given what we just spoke about I walked into the office this girl is me basically
Starting point is 00:07:58 I walked into the office greeted by security on the door I don't know where she works but that is that's sick I want security on my door of my house all normal all fine the security guards sort of pointed at me finger gun style so I thought hmm novel but fun and on I obviously wouldn't want to leave this crazy cat hanging,
Starting point is 00:08:19 so I finger-gunned him back, cheesy grin, and a wink to show my approval for the new arrangement we clearly had going on. Entirely deadpan, his response was ID pass. Realising mine was on the wrong way around and he was merely gesturing for me to show him my ID so he could confirm I was, in fact, allowed to enter the building by virtue of being a professional adult, employed, human, which clearly I am not.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Tiddly from the loo, where I will live, the foreseeable. Finger gun, hey. Finger guns, cool, bro. I've, I've, finger guns, everyone. I'm, I am two or three minutes away from doing that to the next person that I, I have to engage within my car. Finger guns.
Starting point is 00:09:03 I love a finger gun. Don't put that in my head. I'm scared I'm going to start using that now. It's kind of in my head. As you showdown, hey, what's that, bro? You know what, I actually, I want to say that these are out of practice. I want to say that my gun. have been in their holsters for a long time, but they have not.
Starting point is 00:09:18 I think I fingergun this weekend. In fact, I know I did. I finger gun my sister at the pub. Yeah. You know what? I never done that, I don't think. My brother's really good for like a classic dance move. We're talking the trolley, finger guns.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Oh, yeah. Get it from the shelf, put it in the washing machine. Get it from the shelf, put it in the washing machine. I love it. Speaking of washing machines, did you get any feedback from your own? I don't want to talk about it. No, I don't want to talk about it. anyway um so i haven't is it just me just before you read it as a final thought for the girl that's
Starting point is 00:09:56 still stuck on the loop i think just double down just like do not stop every day from now on finger guns yeah even if you're just popping out to get sandwich no avoidance of doubt here like he needs to know meant to do it that was the fucking plan you've got an agenda and you're gonna be his friend and this is how you're going to do it. I don't think you are. All the best though. I hope you get off the loo soon. So, is it just me? Okay. Hi. I'd first of all like to say I absolutely love a podcast.
Starting point is 00:10:28 I have so much joy to my day when I have any episodes to listen to. My, is it just me, is a little serious so I apologise for that. For context, for the majority of my teens, I struggled with disordered eating and body dysmorphia. Thankfully, I'm now in a much better place with my body and I like to think I have a very healthy relationship with food. However, for the last few weeks, I have been on a course of antibiotics that really reduced my appetite and made me feel nauseous whenever I ate. Because of that, I didn't eat as much as I normally would for that two week period and I can tell that I've lost weight because of it. Although I didn't do this on purpose, I'm still concerned with my mindset
Starting point is 00:11:02 when it comes to weight loss. When I realized that I'd lost weight, my immediate reaction was happiness. I really do think that I have a better relationship with my body now, but I want to get to the point that I regard any weight loss slash gain in a neutral way rather than losing weight being positive and gaining it as negative. Please tell me it's not just me that still struggles with extracting myself from a diet culture frame of mind and being okay with fluctuations in my weight. Thank you. I don't think it's just you. Definitely not just you. No shit. No way. I mean slightly different but pregnancy is like thrown me for a fucking loop. Has that I yeah like like the person that sent that message in like I had a
Starting point is 00:11:41 very bad relationship with my body as a teenager and definitely feel like I've come through it and I make so much peace with what I look like now or what I look like what I look like but being pregnant's been really really weird because like everybody said there's like this bit kind of like before it pops where it's really hard and I found that from like basically like weeks 14 to 20, I think, were the hardest because it was just like, basically it just looked like I'd gained weight. And obviously for me as well, I was hiding it. And then your body just changes so much. And even, like, you know, you expect your tummy to get big, but my boobs have got so big. Because I haven't been exercising, I've kind of lost my arm definition. So I've kind of got these, like, hands where my
Starting point is 00:12:27 biceps used to be. And also, I've gained a lot of weight on my legs, which I just, apparently, it's a really normal part of pregnancy. And it's preparing your body for breastfeeding. or some shit, I don't know, but I've basically got like a lot more cellulite than I've ever had and it's just a massive change and it's really like thrown my, like, it's thrown my like relationship. I'm kind of questioning whether I was as cured from all of it
Starting point is 00:12:52 as what I thought because even looking back at photos from my honeymoon, I'm like, fuck, I was so, like I looked so good. But then I distinctly remember then being like, oh God, I've eaten like a train and whatever. And it's like, actually I don't think I've been in as positive the cycle forever you know like I think I've always I don't think these sorts ever disappear basically and I think um maybe they will but this is this is definitely throw me for a loop I'm definitely I'm coming out the other side now it's like now I can like feel a human in there and other people
Starting point is 00:13:24 can feel the human and everyone knows about the human that's it's become a lot easier but it has made me realize I still have these internal thoughts and my instinct isn't neutrality like that's not the first thing I feel when I, when I notice something, even though it's a miracle and whatever, I'm instinctively, I don't think, oh, look at that miraculous cellulite, I look at it and I'm just like, and that's like, and I'm working on that and it's getting better, but yeah, it's not just you, definitely. Yeah, I guess it's different with pregnancy as well in that it's kind of out of your control, like your body's just changing and you don't really have any control over it and I imagine that might play into it from a control aspect
Starting point is 00:14:08 because it's different when you when your when your body's changing because you're eating more or because you're eating less it feels just like more like you're in the driver's seat but when it's just yeah yeah you have absolutely like no control over what's happening with your body and it's just changing before your eyes and it's a body that you're not recognizing anymore like that's really that's really hard to that's very difficult I think but then also that sounds like it's happening to the person sending in because it's like and because it's antibiotics but there are just like so many external factors that change our bodies all the time right you know stress like for some people stress makes you gain weight or lose weight or you know like whatever it is like your
Starting point is 00:14:49 lifestyle at any given time changes and you're right like there's a lot of it that it's in your control but we also know there's a lot of it that isn't and so yeah like I I don't think I don't know do you know anybody that you genuinely think has like 100% of the time crack the code to feeling confident and read of all this diet culture shit? No, no, absolutely not. And I don't think it would be not normal. I don't mean that, but I don't expect that like of anyone, you know, and I definitely like don't expect it of myself. And like, I have done more work on this than a lot, lots of people. you know like I've looked into this like heavily researched this it's something I talk about every single day and I still have these bad days but
Starting point is 00:15:37 and I've definitely talked about it on the podcast before I think but like the way and it was my therapist who gave me this analogy because I remember saying to her like will I ever be fully cured of this because I don't understand how I can still have things that like pop up every now and again and they still bother me and she had this analogy that I really like, I swear I've said this before, so I'm sorry if I'm repeating myself, but that it's like breaking a knee, like breaking a bone. And you break the bone and the bone will heal and the padding around the bone, like your cartilage and everything else, will kind of get stronger to deal with it. But there will always be a sore spot. Like it will always be
Starting point is 00:16:18 like a little bit of a weakness in that bone. And every now and again, it might flare up. And I think when things like this are so deeply conditioned and especially when a lot of that conditioning has happened in formative years when we've been particularly vulnerable and we've been developing and evolving our views on everything
Starting point is 00:16:39 when those things are so have happened in those formative years and they're so emotionally driven as well I think it's just really really really really difficult to get rid of them and I think I think a lot therapists a lot of psychotherapists and psychologists I think they fall into like different camps some believe that you can truly recover and completely be cured of it might be cured of it all
Starting point is 00:17:06 and then others believe that it's that it's not possible but that's okay and then that's the camp that I has a non-threat completely non-qualified person but like that's the camp I fall into I believe that that you you can't and I think that as well believing that just takes the pressure off of knowing that like it's absolutely fine to feel like this. But I think like the good thing is recognising it and like to this girl that wrote in like recognising it and seeing it and it means that next time something like this and working on it and it means that next time something like this comes up,
Starting point is 00:17:39 you're better equipped at dealing with it. And that's the cool thing is like not how can we get rid of it immediately and it never comes back ever again, but like how can we deal with these things as and when they come up so that eventually we don't have to deal with them anymore. Or we just have more tools in our eyes. Arsenal to deal with them very quickly and yeah. Yeah, I remember something that was really important for me
Starting point is 00:17:58 and it was a bit different because it was my face, not my body. But when I have my jaw surgery, anyone who doesn't know about it, it was a vibe. There's a highlight on my profile, a couple highlights on my profile, but I basically had jaw realignment surgery. And I had to have my top jaw broken into three places and reset because of something that had happened a few years ago and it was knocking the, it was blocking my airway into my nose.
Starting point is 00:18:22 So I had to have this big surgery. it was I'm massively underestimated it was a huge fucking deal and for a long time it completely changed the way that I looked and I've talked about this online a lot but I ended up with as close to dysmorphia as I can describe really I can't think of another name for what it is it wasn't body dysmorphia but like face dysmorphia because I would look in the mirror and I was very swollen for a long time
Starting point is 00:18:51 but also it did recalibrate. It's ever so slightly the structure of my face. And actually it's been weird now, like, we're a couple of years on and all the swelling's gone. But, like, my best friend Ellie always says, I look exactly like I meant to now. She's like, you actually look more like you did when you were younger. It was like I just went through this period in the middle
Starting point is 00:19:06 of not looking so much like me. She said, now I look more like I did when I was a teenager and when I was a kid. Right. It is weird. And now when I look at myself before the surgery, a couple of years before the surgery, when the jaw thing had got really bad,
Starting point is 00:19:19 I was like, oh yeah maybe anyway whatever it did slightly alter how i looked permanently but but at the time when i was so swollen and my teeth like got a bit of discoloured because i just couldn't do them as much and my jaw was wired shut and like i just and it was also during covid so there were so many factors to me not looking like me and like in the stupid shit like my eyebrows went down and my head was whatever and my face was super swollen and my jaw was broken and it was a Like there's a lot. Everyone said a lot like Rob Beckett, which was weird.
Starting point is 00:19:53 I felt really bad for Rob Beckett. I'm like, Ilo Dauville, the poor guy. Anyway, whenever I looked in the mirror, I was like, that isn't me. And I really, really struggle with that. When people took photos of me when I went back to work off, because I documented the whole thing on Instagram, but when I went back to like work, work, like making content and stuff, I was like, oh my God, people are going to look at this
Starting point is 00:20:14 and just think that's me. Like, people who've never seen me before. I'm just going to think this is my face, but it's not my face, and this isn't me. And it was what I realized as I got to the end of it, and it was like sort of four or five months on, and I really sat with these feelings, I realized that although I had gone through
Starting point is 00:20:32 really big physical changes in, like, some permanent, but most of them, you know, a lot of these were really temporary, like these really big swelling and stuff, it was, I had to hold on to the fact that throughout that whole process, I had never stopped being who I was. Like, I've never stopped loving in the same way that I did, finding the same things funny that I always had, enjoying the same shit on TV. Like, I was entirely the same human being. I just looked different.
Starting point is 00:21:02 And that I've taken into all of my thoughts around body image now because it's like actually that that is so irrelevant in the scheme of like who I am and the memories that I have. Because the fact is, is we do all look different all the time. Some days we just look fucking shattered. Sometimes we have a hair color that's different, or sometimes we're a bit heavier or lighter than we once were, or whatever. We went through that stage of wearing skirts that didn't suit us, or whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:21:31 You know what I mean? We all go through periods of, like, change and evolution. We're like Pokemon. And you realize that you have remained yourself throughout it all. And so that's something that I hold on to really tightly. Like, I'm doing it now as my body is changing, that it's just like, that's actually completely fucking irrelevant. to who I am. And although both the thoughts exist, you know, I still have the perhaps negative
Starting point is 00:21:56 thoughts about weight gain or whatever it would be. The overriding thought that I'm choosing to hold on to tightest is it's irrelevant because it doesn't define me and I'm still who I am in spite of any changes. So that's always been something cool for me to do that's so, it's so important. It's so important. And the reason that we don't is because we, because, because for all of us, like for most women, our worth and our value is so tied up in how we look. Entirely tied up with how we look. Totally. And we believe that that's what we're good for in the world. And we equate how we look to like, almost like how good we are as a person. Did you know all our glamping units have a resort to quality Canadian-made
Starting point is 00:22:47 and eco-friendly bed. Since day one, we have proudly partnered with Kelowna-based mattress company Haven, ensuring you have the best sleep possible. So it's just one more reason to visit us in the Boreal Forest. You can also try out a Haven Mattress, risk-free, for 100 nights, athavenmatress.ca. And then, I think actually that's a really cool thing to hang on to and remind yourself of, actually, I am completely the same person. Like, nothing else has changed, from my like the skin that I'm in literally it's so weird isn't it temporary but it's so true like about the you know the worth that we that we have as women even I'm actually really feeling it with my youth at the moment because like it's something that like older women say to you all the time
Starting point is 00:23:35 like oh you don't know you're born like you don't like you don't you're not appreciating your skin enough like you're not appreciating this enough like oh you're not appreciating how fast your metabolism is when you're younger you know what I mean like it's just the world is just like full of older women telling younger women that they don't know they're born because various parts of their body are better now than they'll ever be. And that's always a really complicated thing to like comes to terms with it as well. Because if you don't feel like a thousand percent confident in your body, you're like, oh shit, if I don't feel confident in my 25 year old body,
Starting point is 00:24:06 how am I going to feel when I'm 50 and my body's gone to shit? Like everybody says it will. Yeah. Like, we're just sending to a spin with this shit, man. There's such a spin, but that's why I loved that episode with Nadine because she was like, everything is relative, like her saying to Helen Mirren talking about being old and Helen Mirren was like, no, no, you're young. Because I can think that I'm six years older than you and I can think that about you and then you can think that about like your sister. Do you know
Starting point is 00:24:33 what I mean? It's like, it's just everything is relative. But yeah, I think this, this, for this girl, like, you're like just take the pressure off, honestly, just take the pressure off and take the stress off around it because it's even cool, I think, that you recognize stuff like this because for a lot of us, for a lot of people, it would just, it would only be one thing, be like, oh, I feel, I feel, I've lost weight, that's a good thing. I lost weight, great, rather than having the follow-up thing of like, hang on, that, why is that great? I think that even the fact that you're questioning it. And actually, that brings me to that I found the quote that I had butchered the other week, which I think is really important.
Starting point is 00:25:21 I was always taught by my mother that the first thing that goes through your mind is what you've been conditioned to think, what you think next defines who you are. So, yeah, I think that's a really important one and the one I butchered the other week. So yeah. And that's what Jacqueline teaches us is do you get to choose your thoughts. You don't have to just think the first thought that you get, you get, like, that's the joy of having a brain you can think more thoughts so think the first one but then also remember other shit you know what i mean other shit remember how good donuts taste and like how you've remained
Starting point is 00:25:57 exactly the same person and all the people that love you and all the things you want to do with your life and how that just is completely nothing to do with like what your waist sizes you want to I'm going to implement an is it just me, just reminded by waist sizes, on behalf of my husband, who can't tell the difference on the tape measure between centimetres and inches. I mean, I'm the wrong person to ask. We were fitting the living room for the new sofa. I'm not asking you to, wait, wait, can you not do it either? Do you know the difference if you're looking at a tape measure?
Starting point is 00:26:32 Would you know which one was the inches and which one was the centimetres? I know inches are bigger. Yeah. Okay, good. That's the start. That's further than we got. with Al. Really?
Starting point is 00:26:41 I think he's so practical. I know. I asked him to measure, we were getting a new sofa and I was like, can you just measure the space of the living room? And he was like, it's 290 inches. I was like, what?
Starting point is 00:26:50 I don't think it is, hon. I was like, where do you think we live? It was 290 centimeters. No, I do find all that. Okay, don't get me started on the Imperial versus Metch, what is it? Metric, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:09 It just, it just, why? So imperial stones and, stones and pounds and then metrics kilograms? Yes, all the other way around. Yeah. I don't know. No, I think that's right. I think that's right. I'm having some personal, yeah, like, if someone tells me their height in centimetres,
Starting point is 00:27:26 I'm like. Oh my God, I know, I know. But apparently we're weird in the UK because we mix up using imperial and metric. Who was I speaking to? I think it's someone from the US I was speaking to. And they were like, but it's so weird the way you do it because you half use metric, Carfews Imperial. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:27:40 whatever. Alex was trying to defend it saying that they, like, in Ireland have, like, they don't have miles an hour. They do kilometres an hour. And I was like, yeah, but you still know what an inch is. So I can't help you there. Come on.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Come on. Grow up. Grow the fuck up. I have, and is it just me? Hit me. That has really unlocked new anxiety for me, okay? Oh God. That's the last thing you need.
Starting point is 00:28:08 More. I know, it was over a DM. Does, I have to ask, does anyone else panic about the birds when it's really windy at night? How do they sleep and not blow away? Oh no, I didn't worry about the birds. Where do they go?
Starting point is 00:28:26 Literally everything else when it's windy and rainy. I can't enjoy, and people are like, oh, I love this into like a storm in bed. I'm like, I don't. I don't. I just, I think about all the fences that are going to get knocked down, So all the horses that are going to escape And then what happens if a horse runs onto a road
Starting point is 00:28:41 And then gets hit by a car And then what happens if it's named Or the person driving the cars hurt I get, yeah, or the bunnies I always worry about bunnies But then I realise I needn't Because they go underground Birds, I think, are pretty resilient
Starting point is 00:28:57 Because they just hang out in trees But then I can't speak for like tornadoes and hurricanes Well yeah, they just have nests Um Yeah, but I don't think they fly away although you do sometimes see footage from like tornadoes and hurricanes and stuff and it's very upsetting and distressing to see a bird going the wrong way. Oh, don't.
Starting point is 00:29:18 But then I just feel like they're fine. They've just got to ride it out. You know what I mean? It's like, I'd say for everybody else, if you're spinning in a tornado and you're a rabbit, it's like, fuck, because eventually the tornado is going to stop and I'm going to fall and then I'm going to die because I can't fly. But a bird that's zooming around, the minute the tornado ends is grand. it just flaps its wings and trots on its way.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Yeah, unless it's become really like inactive, like passive because it's like, oh, I don't be teased my wings because I'm being blown around anyway. Tornado suddenly stops and it has to like wake up. Well, that's more full of the bird. You've got to be alert. You know what I mean? There's a tornado.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Pay attention. Put yourself together. But if anyone could let us know what happens to the birds when it's windy, I'd really like to know that they're okay. I can only just sit in their nests. But where are in trees? I did find an owl that had fallen out. You know where nests are?
Starting point is 00:30:04 In trees? well yeah off yeah but isn't that where it's windiest up at the top if they go right in if you go near the oh my god the trunk I was like what is the middle bed called if you go near the trunk
Starting point is 00:30:18 looking at a tree out of the window I was like what are you if they go near the trunk it'll be alright they'll be protected they've got all the leaves on the trees and stuff and then the birds that can't hack it just fuck off somewhere else for the winter do you know what I mean like the Canadian geese
Starting point is 00:30:30 they just come here in the winter because it's too cold or they come here because they were, I can't work out when they come here. From Canada? From Canada? Yes. I wonder where they stop and like refuel. What do you mean refuel?
Starting point is 00:30:44 They don't need petrol. No, but I am sorry, but like, how is a bird flying from Canada to the UK? Like, a plane can just about do it. Players are fine. Can you just Google, yeah, migratory patterns of a Canadian goose? Canada geese were imported by wealthy individuals and are now as well established in the ones. I don't think they fly from Canada.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Okay, Jesus, the UK. Okay, geese migrate to Britain in the autumn. Dave, Canada geese, do they fly? Do they migrate from Canada? Can the birds fly from Canada to the UK? Yeah. Are you sure? I don't know if it's from Canada, but yeah, they can fly that far? Geese fly a long way.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Gees fly a long way, he says. Oh, they're amazing. I'm going to get to say Himalayas as well. From the Himalayas? Sometimes I hate Google. Like, this should be an easy one. Oh my God. Okay. Some 15,000 white front geese visit our coasts from Scotland to southern England,
Starting point is 00:31:53 having summered in Greenland and Siberia. But they have to stop along the way to rest up. Surely. This guy's come from Svalab. Bad? Falabats, Flalabad. Oh my God. I can't say that one. I know where that is. I follow a girl who lives there. Ask her if she thinks she could fly here in one go.
Starting point is 00:32:14 It's crazy. It's like this tiny, tiny little island. They don't have hot water. They don't have electricity. Yes. The Canadian geese, there are now 62,000 pairs in the UK and the numbers growing. They're large with a brown body and black neck. And it has become the UK's most familiar goose of park lakes. So yeah, presumably they migrate from Canada. They're just international jet setters. They just hang out between the two places. Well, I'm trying to see, do geese need to have a stopover? Yeah, can a bird fly over the Atlantic?
Starting point is 00:32:47 They migrate continuously, except for short stopovers to fuel up on insects, fruit or seeds before continuing on their way. The warblers, I don't know what they are, but they can fly non-stop over the Atlantic Ocean. Wow. They're doing three days and they don't need to land. Albatrosses are also masters of soaring flight able to glide over vast tracts of ocean without flapping their wings. So they have fully adapted to their oceanic existence
Starting point is 00:33:16 and they spend their first six more years of their long lives. They can live to be 50. Oh my God. So hang on. An albatross can fly for six years without ever touching the land. But how does it eat? That's not possible, has it?
Starting point is 00:33:33 They probably just catch things, they catch fish. So they touch sea, but not, can they rest in the sea? No, they just land, they just gobble and keep going. That is energy, that is stamina, that is pure stamina. Six years. I can't imagine you standing up for six hours. Six minutes, I was going to say, but yeah, six hours too. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:33:55 That is ridiculous. Oh my God. We spend way too much time talking about birds on this podcast. Well, I was just about to say that we should get someone a bird expert on. No one will listen to that. Okay, never mind. So good in theory. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:14 I feel like the older I get, the more fascinated I am by birds. I agree. So last weekend, Ellie and Joshua, my best mate and her boyfriend, got us a bird table for the garden. What's that? Well, it's like a table for the birds. Oh, so is it a cable? What's that? It's a table for birds.
Starting point is 00:34:36 A bird table, like a bird feeder. And we've hung it, I mean, to be honest, I'm going to, if I'm being truthful, it's not, it's not perfect because mostly the squirrels just eat all the food and then they just torment Bua because then she's just watching a squirrel eating the bird food in the garden and it drives her insane and it's actually kind of horrifying to witness. But in theory it's great and I have these nice dreams of watching pigeons. thrive nutritionally in my garden tell me some videos I love pigeons I need that I will but yeah I think I've told you this fun fact before
Starting point is 00:35:10 but you know pigeon lives for like six or seven years I just think it's such a hard graft like I just feel really sorry for them I just look at London pigeons and I'm just like it just looks fucking hard you know what I mean like people are so cool and I don't get it people are just so evil so evil to them and foxes and rats yeah
Starting point is 00:35:30 Yeah Rants have just had such bad PR It's so unfair Yeah but they're like no different to like Other animals Like okay I get the vermin thing I know They carry diseases
Starting point is 00:35:41 But like I don't think the plague did the many favours But it doesn't mean they should be treated any differently Apart from possibly avoided But like they shouldn't be treated badly Like don't kiss one I mean But don't be nasty to it either
Starting point is 00:35:54 You know They might consider it really nasty That you're not kissing them Possibly Betty's licking her own family all the time you're actually giving that a ghost and they're like right
Starting point is 00:36:04 so one ancestor of 400 years ago had the plague and you're not going to kiss me she had actually we had guests around which was very embarrassing and they were on the couch and like Betty jumped up onto them and she had something sticking out of her her asshole
Starting point is 00:36:16 and it's never ever happened before I feel bad saying asshole I'm sorry Betty her bum and it was like something was sticking out and like it turned out there it was like a hard piece of grass
Starting point is 00:36:27 really gross but I was like that's what they call a dingle Is it? When a sheep does a shit and it's like a little bit of poo gets stuck on their like wool, because they've got loads of wool. Oh, isn't it? It's a dingleberry.
Starting point is 00:36:40 I thought it was a, well, my word for it is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is it. But dingleberry is much nicer. Yeah. So she had a little dingleberry, that's nice. How humiliating. I know how humiliating. And then Dave had to pull out. So, anyway, um, I have an embarrassing story to,
Starting point is 00:36:58 to round us out. We love nothing more than an embarrassing story. So, thank you so much for your podcast. It brings me so much joy in knowledge. Knowledge. Knowledge.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Well, well, well, well, well. To be fair, she might not have known that an albatross can fly for six years without landing, had it not been for this fountain of knowledge, otherwise no less.
Starting point is 00:37:21 There you go. Oh, shit heap of a podcast. Yeah, I never had it down as an informative podcast, but here we are. she said I honestly don't know what I did before listening oh my god that's so sweet but socialized new sensible things I had like a flash of like all the different things in my head that she could be doing but anyway so picture the scene my partner and I are at a swanky
Starting point is 00:37:48 hotel for one night in the Mediterranean treating ourselves before winter kicks in I spot someone I was at school with over 15 years ago I that is That is good. I probably wouldn't spot that. I have freakishly good photographic memory, so I am unsure if she would recognize me, but I recognize her and remember her name. We keep passing each other in town, breakfast buffet, in the bar, ETC, ETC. My brother comes to visit us for lunch, and I'm telling him the story and how weird it is that everyone, and how weird it is that everywhere we go, she is five people away and joke, it's like we're following each other.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Anyway, we then go down to the beach and again manage to sit on the lounge next to her, I texted my brother saying, don't make it obvious, but, person's name, is on the lounger next to you. I told you she's following us. Ha, ha, ha. Little did I know. My brother has Siri read out his texts, and Siri proceeds to read out the text so loudly. When I tell you, I almost died. I am not exaggerating. My God, who the heck has Siri read out their texts? I pretended to... Who the hell has Siri read out their text? What kind of a madman? What's his number?
Starting point is 00:38:59 Because I'm going to fuck up his life. Yeah. I pretended to fall asleep on my lounger until she left hours later. I actually still can't handle this. That's rough. That's really bad. What did the text say exactly again? Don't make it obvious before we're sitting on the sun lounger next to us.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Let's call her Diana. Oh no. Let's call her. Okay. Let's call her. Laura. Laura. I couldn't think of a girl's name.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Don't make it obvious, but Laura is on the lounger next to you. I told you she's following us. Ha ha ha. yeah that's about as back as it gets because you know as well when syria goes ha ha ha ha yeah oh that's really embarrassing that is really embarrassing oh no do you think you would have oh no i don't think i would have addressed it i think i'd have just i don't know you know what i've realized that i've started looking like an absolute lunatic because i have my air pods in and when i go for my walk i listen to a podcast and and my headphones Siri like headphone Siri like headphone
Starting point is 00:39:55 I don't know what he's called, but he reads out all my notifications. Yeah. And I'm, it's so annoying because it's like, just let me listen to the fucking podcast. Like, I don't care. Like, because we've got so many WhatsApp groups for everything, for all our work and the podcast and whatever and then like... Everything. Every, everything.
Starting point is 00:40:13 And so it's basically like having every email that you get read out and obviously, like, our mental health. So we're supposed to go for like walks and stuff and not be on our phones all the time. So sometimes I just want to ignore them for like 20 minutes when I walk and then I'll deal with it when I get back. Anyway. my thingy reads them out and I know there is a way
Starting point is 00:40:29 of saying stop reading the notifications for an hour but I don't know the exact wording so I'm literally and I know because these are noise can't get the volume right of myself so I'm walking along and I'm like stop reading notifications pause notifications
Starting point is 00:40:45 don't read notifications for now and then I'm just like oh my God no one else just turn them off completely no one else is hearing the I don't know how to do that it right it's two steps go into settings
Starting point is 00:40:58 go into notifications and right there it says announce notifications and you just turn that off okay well but then sometimes I might want them
Starting point is 00:41:04 there's a way of stopping it for an hour and he sometimes tells me he says if you don't want notifications say but I always forget what he tells me to say so I just try every variation
Starting point is 00:41:14 it could be and it never works and I just know that I'll just be walking along this and I can absolutely robot stop reading notifications stop reading notification
Starting point is 00:41:24 do not and then I get more and more irate. And he's just like pissing himself at you. Try again, Sucker. Yeah. I am not listening. I can't believe your brother has his messages read out.
Starting point is 00:41:36 At least you know he's not dealing drugs or having an affair. I can't believe that she hasn't met. Like if I knew my brother had, if I knew my brother had his messages read out, I would just ruin his life. Yeah. Hi, did the hemorrhoids go down? Who does?
Starting point is 00:41:55 does that though. I didn't even know that could happen, but there you go. Very embarrassing. Somebody who either doesn't text a lot of people or who has just very solid trust in the people who does text. Very embarrassing. Good God. Well, thank you all for sending in your embarrassing stories and is it just me's? If you have anything you would like to send us yeah, embarrassing stories or is it just me's? You can send them to, you can email us on should I delete that pod at gmail.com or you can send a voice note. We are still loving. the voice notes to the Instagram. Should I delete that? Should I delete that? Stunning. Thank you very much for being here. We will see you on Monday for a new episode of
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