Should I Delete That? - Is It Just Me: Finger guns and migratory geese
Episode Date: October 19, 2022In this week’s Is It Just Me? the girls discuss body neutrality, crossing the road and why you should love pigeons...Follow us on Instagram @shouldideletethatEmail us at shouldideletethatpod@gmail.c...omProduced & edited by Daisy GrantMusic by Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hello, everyone, and welcome back to Should I Delete That?
It's our Is It Just Me episode, and M, I would like to kick us off with my own, Is It Just Me?
Hit me.
I think this one, every single week, and I always forget to say it, so I'm remembering now.
Okay.
Is it just me who feels like, actually this, okay, this is a two-parter.
Okay.
This is all about crossing the road, okay?
Is it just me who, number one, when I'm crossing at the pedestrian,
and crossing, I have to run.
Like, I do a little run walk, little run walk.
Because I feel, because I feel bad.
I know, because I feel, but I feel, I feel, I feel bad, right?
At zebra crossing.
At zebra crossing, yeah, that's it.
I do a run walk because I'm like, oh, I feel guilty that I'm making them stop.
So I like, I like, like, little, like, peg it along.
I know the run walk well.
Yes.
Yes.
But number two, is it just me who, so I, whenever I cross at a zebra crossing,
I obviously say thank you to the person who stopped, right?
so I hold my hand up but then I worry I do a little wave because not a wave a proper wave but a little jiggle because I worry that holding my hands up looks like I'm trying to like stop and crossing the road do you know what I mean so I do a little wiggle I do a little like thank you wiggle hands like finger wiggle just so they know that I'm saying thank you not halt right so from the car's perspective this frantic looking woman runs across the way road waving at
them just for another perspective another side to that um i get the run walk i don't do it as standard
practice on the zebra crossing because i do have a little bit more dignity than that um and i think
because i operate in london pretty evenly between being a driver and between being a pedestrian
i kind of feel like i've got my i've got the authority in both positions do you know what i mean
I'm like, I'm going to be a good crosser
and I'm going to be a good, not runner over her.
And so I've struck that balance, all right.
As for the wave, I can see that's a difficult thing to do.
So what I do?
Well, I tell you what's actually quite bad that I've been doing
when I've been driving.
I know you don't drive a lot, but like, particularly in London,
obviously, if you've to, like, there's a lot of spaces
where you can't fit two cars, so one of you is to pull in,
like, behind the bus or whatever,
and then, like, one of you gets out the other's way.
so when you go to thank someone you know you can give the little like steering wheel wave
where you basically lift like four fingers well i've stopped doing that and i've started throwing peas
i just whipped out a little peace sign and it literally happens like i can't even help it and i'm just like
peace out bro and then i'm like oh my god cool but then also they probably think i'm flipping them
the bird because from a distance how he used to say what way my fingers are facing so also if i
just thought someone's giving me the P sign. I would be quite
judgmental. The peace sign is the thank you on the traffic
in traffic. I would be a bit like
not enough. Why are you giving me the P sign?
Get on your fucking knees
and thank me properly. This isn't a picture.
I know so I've really got to stop doing it and I'm just throwing
peas out all the time. I'm probably doing it when I'm crossing the road as well
and not even thinking about it. Cheers, Prane. It's so bad. I've got to stop
doing that. A thumbs up might work. Thanks.
Frank. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks.
yeah crossing the road for a head no yeah i the way the wave is difficult i just do the little like
like literally just like shove the fingers up thanks and then put them back down no i don't wiggle it's up
and down no fun story i don't know if i've ever told the podcast this i don't know if i've ever told
you this about sarah getting it by car at the zebra crossing she was i know this story but i don't
know if it's because of the podcast i don't know tell it anyway it was due to the podcast and you've heard
it before. I'll give you the short hand, but she was running across
the zebra crossing. Perhaps this is an
argument for walking across it. Maybe she was just
so fast at running that it was just like,
blur, I couldn't even see her.
And she got hit by car. She was wearing shorts.
She went onto the bonnet, but
then because she was wearing shorts, she got stuck
on the bonnet. So she was trying to like
ch-ch-ch-ch-but the bonnet and her
skin just moves a whole
whole amalgamation. She was absolutely fine.
She's so embarrassed. She said she made complete eye contact
with the driver because it was just like
as she was sprawled on the bonnet.
and then trying to, like, peel herself back off it,
and then she just ran away again.
So, yeah, I think of that often.
I run across, you know, when you cross the traffic lights too late,
well, I know you don't,
because you're, like, anxious Anne when it comes to crossing the road.
I prefer safety season.
But when a normal person crosses the road
and they take their life into their hands
and the green man's flashing and you've got to make a mad dash,
that's always an embarrassing role.
Yeah, don't like that.
But that's the only time I will break a sweat.
Okay.
Okay, fair enough, that's fine.
I tell you what I find very interesting.
Like, you know the Americans get, like, fined for crossing the road?
J-walking.
I know.
Londoners would be, would be destitute.
As a city, we'd be just broken.
We'd have nothing left because, like, it's anarchy.
We, like, what doesn't matter the time of night, wearing all black, crossing the road at two in the morning.
As slow as you like.
I swear, I've seen so many people jaywalking, though, in New York.
I swear.
I don't think anyone actually.
There's a busy people.
There's a busy people.
You've got to be able to cross the...
Like, you know what?
You take your life in your hands.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
I admire it.
I've used that expression too much recently.
I haven't heard you say that.
Well, you're welcome.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
There you go.
Yeah, but I keep using it randomly intensely.
And Alex is like,
doesn't need to be this intense.
I'm like, don't ruin this.
My life's a movie and I'm the main character.
I just love it when people use expressions in the wrong way,
me included my sister said the other day like completely unrelated she was like oh i just
reinvented the wheelhouse and i was like i don't think you know what that means what's the
wheelhouse not relevant to the situation you know it's like you're not you're not doing it
you're not coming up at anything new you're not like reinventing the wheelhouse what's a wheel
house now i'm question now i'm really questioning it is it reinventing the wheelhouse i don't
even know what a wheelhouse is to reinvent or is it reinventing the wheel
fuck this up
What's a wheelhouse?
To reinvent the wheel
Oh it's not the wheelhouse
It's reinventing the wheel
Makes a lot more sense
I was like what the fuck is a wheelhouse
I'd say it's a time for a rebrand
I'd say I could get busy
Reinventing the wheelhouse
I've never heard of it
So yeah that's
I don't know where that can
Wheelhouse is a phrase no
It's not in my wheelhouse
So what you've done is
You've commixed your expressions.
You've animated them.
I have.
I personally love to do that.
Anyway, that was a fun three minutes.
Apologies, guys.
Do you have anything for me?
I do.
I have an embarrassing story just to kick us off.
And this is sent with time to sensitivity,
so I have to read it out immediately
so that we can set this one free.
Okay.
Hi, guys.
Sincere apologies, but no time for niceties,
as I'm currently writing this,
locked in the toilet cubicle at work.
unsure when I will emerge due to the shame
I walked into the office
oh my god this is so apt given what we just spoke about
I walked into the office this girl is me basically
I walked into the office greeted by security on the door
I don't know where she works but that is that's sick
I want security on my door of my house
all normal all fine
the security guards sort of pointed at me
finger gun style so I thought
hmm novel but fun and on
I obviously wouldn't want to leave this crazy cat hanging,
so I finger-gunned him back, cheesy grin,
and a wink to show my approval for the new arrangement we clearly had going on.
Entirely deadpan, his response was ID pass.
Realising mine was on the wrong way around
and he was merely gesturing for me to show him my ID
so he could confirm I was, in fact, allowed to enter the building
by virtue of being a professional adult, employed, human,
which clearly I am not.
Tiddly from the loo, where I will live,
the foreseeable.
Finger gun, hey.
Finger guns, cool, bro.
I've, I've, finger guns, everyone.
I'm, I am two or three minutes away from doing that to the next person that I,
I have to engage within my car.
Finger guns.
I love a finger gun.
Don't put that in my head.
I'm scared I'm going to start using that now.
It's kind of in my head.
As you showdown, hey, what's that, bro?
You know what, I actually, I want to say that these are out of practice.
I want to say that my gun.
have been in their holsters for a long time, but they have not.
I think I fingergun this weekend.
In fact, I know I did.
I finger gun my sister at the pub.
Yeah.
You know what?
I never done that, I don't think.
My brother's really good for like a classic dance move.
We're talking the trolley, finger guns.
Oh, yeah.
Get it from the shelf, put it in the washing machine.
Get it from the shelf, put it in the washing machine.
I love it.
Speaking of washing machines, did you get any feedback from your own?
I don't want to talk about it.
No, I don't want to talk about it.
anyway um so i haven't is it just me just before you read it as a final thought for the girl that's
still stuck on the loop i think just double down just like do not stop every day from now on
finger guns yeah even if you're just popping out to get sandwich no avoidance of doubt here like
he needs to know meant to do it that was the fucking plan you've got an agenda and you're gonna be his
friend and this is how you're going to do it.
I don't think you are.
All the best though. I hope you get off the loo soon.
So, is it just me?
Okay. Hi. I'd first of all like to say I absolutely love a podcast.
I have so much joy to my day when I have any episodes to listen to.
My, is it just me, is a little serious so I apologise for that.
For context, for the majority of my teens, I struggled with disordered eating and body dysmorphia.
Thankfully, I'm now in a much better place with my body and I like to think I have a very
healthy relationship with food. However, for the last few weeks, I have been on a course of
antibiotics that really reduced my appetite and made me feel nauseous whenever I ate. Because of that,
I didn't eat as much as I normally would for that two week period and I can tell that I've lost
weight because of it. Although I didn't do this on purpose, I'm still concerned with my mindset
when it comes to weight loss. When I realized that I'd lost weight, my immediate reaction was
happiness. I really do think that I have a better relationship with my body now, but I want to get
to the point that I regard any weight loss slash gain in a neutral way rather than losing
weight being positive and gaining it as negative. Please tell me it's not just me that still
struggles with extracting myself from a diet culture frame of mind and being okay with fluctuations
in my weight. Thank you. I don't think it's just you. Definitely not just you. No shit. No way.
I mean slightly different but pregnancy is like thrown me for a fucking loop.
Has that I yeah like like the person that sent that message in like I had a
very bad relationship with my body as a teenager and definitely feel like I've come through it
and I make so much peace with what I look like now or what I look like what I look like but being
pregnant's been really really weird because like everybody said there's like this bit kind of like
before it pops where it's really hard and I found that from like basically like weeks 14 to
20, I think, were the hardest because it was just like, basically it just looked like I'd gained
weight. And obviously for me as well, I was hiding it. And then your body just changes so much. And even,
like, you know, you expect your tummy to get big, but my boobs have got so big. Because I haven't
been exercising, I've kind of lost my arm definition. So I've kind of got these, like, hands where my
biceps used to be. And also, I've gained a lot of weight on my legs, which I just, apparently,
it's a really normal part of pregnancy. And it's preparing your body for breastfeeding.
or some shit, I don't know, but
I've basically got like a lot more cellulite than I've ever had
and it's just a massive change
and it's really like thrown my, like,
it's thrown my like relationship.
I'm kind of questioning whether I was as cured from all of it
as what I thought because even looking back at photos from my honeymoon,
I'm like, fuck, I was so, like I looked so good.
But then I distinctly remember then being like,
oh God, I've eaten like a train and whatever.
And it's like, actually I don't think I've been in as positive
the cycle forever you know like I think I've always I don't think these sorts ever disappear basically
and I think um maybe they will but this is this is definitely throw me for a loop I'm definitely
I'm coming out the other side now it's like now I can like feel a human in there and other people
can feel the human and everyone knows about the human that's it's become a lot easier but it has
made me realize I still have these internal thoughts and my instinct isn't neutrality like that's
not the first thing I feel when I, when I notice something, even though it's a miracle
and whatever, I'm instinctively, I don't think, oh, look at that miraculous cellulite,
I look at it and I'm just like, and that's like, and I'm working on that and it's getting
better, but yeah, it's not just you, definitely. Yeah, I guess it's different with pregnancy
as well in that it's kind of out of your control, like your body's just changing and you don't
really have any control over it and I imagine that might play into it from a control aspect
because it's different when you when your when your body's changing because you're eating more
or because you're eating less it feels just like more like you're in the driver's seat but when it's
just yeah yeah you have absolutely like no control over what's happening with your body and
it's just changing before your eyes and it's a body that you're not recognizing anymore like
that's really that's really hard to that's very difficult I think but then also that sounds like
it's happening to the person sending in because it's like and because it's antibiotics but there are
just like so many external factors that change our bodies all the time right you know stress like for
some people stress makes you gain weight or lose weight or you know like whatever it is like your
lifestyle at any given time changes and you're right like there's a lot of it that it's in your control
but we also know there's a lot of it that isn't and so yeah like I I don't think I don't know do you know
anybody that you genuinely think has like 100% of the time crack the code to feeling confident
and read of all this diet culture shit? No, no, absolutely not. And I don't think it would be
not normal. I don't mean that, but I don't expect that like of anyone, you know, and I definitely
like don't expect it of myself. And like, I have done more work on this than a lot, lots of people.
you know like I've looked into this like heavily researched this
it's something I talk about every single day and I still have these bad days but
and I've definitely talked about it on the podcast before I think but like the way and
it was my therapist who gave me this analogy because I remember saying to her like
will I ever be fully cured of this because I don't understand how I can still have things
that like pop up every now and again and they still bother me and she had this analogy
that I really like, I swear I've said this before, so I'm sorry if I'm repeating myself,
but that it's like breaking a knee, like breaking a bone. And you break the bone and the bone
will heal and the padding around the bone, like your cartilage and everything else, will kind of
get stronger to deal with it. But there will always be a sore spot. Like it will always be
like a little bit of a weakness in that bone. And every now and again, it might flare up. And I think
when things like this are so
deeply conditioned
and especially when a lot of that conditioning
has happened in formative years
when we've been particularly vulnerable
and we've been developing
and evolving our views on everything
when those things are so
have happened in those formative years
and they're so emotionally driven
as well I think it's just really
really really really difficult to get rid of them
and I think I think a lot
therapists a lot of psychotherapists and psychologists I think they fall into like different camps
some believe that you can truly recover and completely be cured of it might be cured of it all
and then others believe that it's that it's not possible but that's okay and then that's the camp
that I has a non-threat completely non-qualified person but like that's the camp I fall into I believe
that that you you can't and I think that as well believing that just takes the pressure off
of knowing that like it's absolutely fine to feel like this.
But I think like the good thing is recognising it
and like to this girl that wrote in like recognising it and seeing it
and it means that next time something like this and working on it
and it means that next time something like this comes up,
you're better equipped at dealing with it.
And that's the cool thing is like not how can we get rid of it immediately
and it never comes back ever again,
but like how can we deal with these things as and when they come up
so that eventually we don't have to deal with them anymore.
Or we just have more tools in our eyes.
Arsenal to deal with them very quickly and yeah.
Yeah, I remember something that was really important for me
and it was a bit different because it was my face, not my body.
But when I have my jaw surgery, anyone who doesn't know about it,
it was a vibe.
There's a highlight on my profile, a couple highlights on my profile,
but I basically had jaw realignment surgery.
And I had to have my top jaw broken into three places and reset
because of something that had happened a few years ago
and it was knocking the, it was blocking my airway into my nose.
So I had to have this big surgery.
it was I'm massively underestimated it was a huge fucking deal
and for a long time it completely changed the way that I looked
and I've talked about this online a lot but I ended up with
as close to dysmorphia as I can describe really
I can't think of another name for what it is
it wasn't body dysmorphia but like face dysmorphia
because I would look in the mirror and I was very swollen for a long time
but also it did recalibrate.
It's ever so slightly the structure of my face.
And actually it's been weird now, like, we're a couple of years on
and all the swelling's gone.
But, like, my best friend Ellie always says,
I look exactly like I meant to now.
She's like, you actually look more like you did when you were younger.
It was like I just went through this period in the middle
of not looking so much like me.
She said, now I look more like I did when I was a teenager
and when I was a kid.
Right.
It is weird.
And now when I look at myself before the surgery,
a couple of years before the surgery,
when the jaw thing had got really bad,
I was like,
oh yeah maybe anyway whatever it did slightly alter how i looked permanently but but at the time when
i was so swollen and my teeth like got a bit of discoloured because i just couldn't do them as much
and my jaw was wired shut and like i just and it was also during covid so there were so many
factors to me not looking like me and like in the stupid shit like my eyebrows went down and my head
was whatever and my face was super swollen and my jaw was broken and it was a
Like there's a lot.
Everyone said a lot like Rob Beckett, which was weird.
I felt really bad for Rob Beckett.
I'm like, Ilo Dauville, the poor guy.
Anyway, whenever I looked in the mirror, I was like, that isn't me.
And I really, really struggle with that.
When people took photos of me when I went back to work off,
because I documented the whole thing on Instagram,
but when I went back to like work, work, like making content and stuff,
I was like, oh my God, people are going to look at this
and just think that's me.
Like, people who've never seen me before.
I'm just going to think this is my face,
but it's not my face, and this isn't me.
And it was what I realized as I got to the end of it,
and it was like sort of four or five months on,
and I really sat with these feelings,
I realized that although I had gone through
really big physical changes in, like, some permanent,
but most of them, you know, a lot of these were really temporary,
like these really big swelling and stuff,
it was, I had to hold on to the fact that throughout that whole process,
I had never stopped being who I was.
Like, I've never stopped loving in the same way that I did, finding the same things funny that I always had, enjoying the same shit on TV.
Like, I was entirely the same human being.
I just looked different.
And that I've taken into all of my thoughts around body image now because it's like actually that that is so irrelevant in the scheme of like who I am and the memories that I have.
Because the fact is, is we do all look different all the time.
Some days we just look fucking shattered.
Sometimes we have a hair color that's different,
or sometimes we're a bit heavier or lighter than we once were,
or whatever.
We went through that stage of wearing skirts that didn't suit us,
or whatever it is.
You know what I mean?
We all go through periods of, like, change and evolution.
We're like Pokemon.
And you realize that you have remained yourself throughout it all.
And so that's something that I hold on to really tightly.
Like, I'm doing it now as my body is changing,
that it's just like, that's actually completely fucking irrelevant.
to who I am. And although both the thoughts exist, you know, I still have the perhaps negative
thoughts about weight gain or whatever it would be. The overriding thought that I'm choosing
to hold on to tightest is it's irrelevant because it doesn't define me and I'm still who I am
in spite of any changes. So that's always been something cool for me to do that's so, it's so
important. It's so important. And the reason that we don't is because we, because,
because for all of us, like for most women, our worth and our value is so tied up in
how we look. Entirely tied up with how we look. Totally. And we believe that that's what
we're good for in the world. And we equate how we look to like, almost like how good we are
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athavenmatress.ca. And then, I think actually that's a really cool thing to hang on to
and remind yourself of, actually, I am completely the same person. Like, nothing else has changed,
from my like the skin that I'm in literally it's so weird isn't it temporary but it's so true like
about the you know the worth that we that we have as women even I'm actually really feeling it with
my youth at the moment because like it's something that like older women say to you all the time
like oh you don't know you're born like you don't like you don't you're not appreciating your
skin enough like you're not appreciating this enough like oh you're not appreciating how fast
your metabolism is when you're younger you know what I mean like it's just the world
is just like full of older women telling younger women that they don't know they're born
because various parts of their body are better now than they'll ever be.
And that's always a really complicated thing to like comes to terms with it as well.
Because if you don't feel like a thousand percent confident in your body,
you're like, oh shit, if I don't feel confident in my 25 year old body,
how am I going to feel when I'm 50 and my body's gone to shit?
Like everybody says it will.
Yeah.
Like, we're just sending to a spin with this shit, man.
There's such a spin, but that's why I loved that episode with Nadine because she was like,
everything is relative, like her saying to Helen Mirren talking about being old and
Helen Mirren was like, no, no, you're young. Because I can think that I'm six years older than
you and I can think that about you and then you can think that about like your sister. Do you know
what I mean? It's like, it's just everything is relative. But yeah, I think this, this, for this
girl, like, you're like just take the pressure off, honestly, just take the pressure off and take the
stress off around it because it's even cool, I think, that you recognize stuff like this because
for a lot of us, for a lot of people, it would just, it would only be one thing, be like,
oh, I feel, I feel, I've lost weight, that's a good thing. I lost weight, great, rather than
having the follow-up thing of like, hang on, that, why is that great? I think that even the fact
that you're questioning it. And actually, that brings me to that I found the quote that I had
butchered the other week, which I think is really important.
I was always taught by my mother that the first thing that goes through your mind is what
you've been conditioned to think, what you think next defines who you are.
So, yeah, I think that's a really important one and the one I butchered the other week.
So yeah.
And that's what Jacqueline teaches us is do you get to choose your thoughts.
You don't have to just think the first thought that you get, you get, like, that's the joy
of having a brain you can think more thoughts so think the first one but then also remember
other shit you know what i mean other shit remember how good donuts taste and like how you've remained
exactly the same person and all the people that love you and all the things you want to do with your
life and how that just is completely nothing to do with like what your waist sizes you want to
I'm going to implement an is it just me, just reminded by waist sizes, on behalf of my
husband, who can't tell the difference on the tape measure between centimetres and inches.
I mean, I'm the wrong person to ask.
We were fitting the living room for the new sofa.
I'm not asking you to, wait, wait, can you not do it either?
Do you know the difference if you're looking at a tape measure?
Would you know which one was the inches and which one was the centimetres?
I know inches are bigger.
Yeah.
Okay, good.
That's the start.
That's further than we got.
with Al.
Really?
I think he's so practical.
I know.
I asked him to measure,
we were getting a new sofa and I was like,
can you just measure the space of the living room?
And he was like,
it's 290 inches.
I was like, what?
I don't think it is, hon.
I was like,
where do you think we live?
It was 290 centimeters.
No, I do find all that.
Okay, don't get me started on the Imperial versus Metch,
what is it?
Metric, yeah.
It just, it just, why?
So imperial stones and, stones and pounds and then metrics kilograms?
Yes, all the other way around.
Yeah.
I don't know.
No, I think that's right.
I think that's right.
I'm having some personal, yeah, like, if someone tells me their height in centimetres,
I'm like.
Oh my God, I know, I know.
But apparently we're weird in the UK because we mix up using imperial and metric.
Who was I speaking to?
I think it's someone from the US I was speaking to.
And they were like, but it's so weird the way you do it because you half use metric,
Carfews Imperial.
Anyway,
whatever.
Alex was trying to defend it saying that they,
like, in Ireland have, like,
they don't have miles an hour.
They do kilometres an hour.
And I was like, yeah, but you still know what an inch is.
So I can't help you there.
Come on.
Come on.
Grow up.
Grow the fuck up.
I have, and is it just me?
Hit me.
That has really unlocked new anxiety for me, okay?
Oh God.
That's the last thing you need.
More.
I know, it was over a DM.
Does, I have to ask,
does anyone else panic about the birds
when it's really windy at night?
How do they sleep and not blow away?
Oh no, I didn't worry about the birds.
Where do they go?
Literally everything else when it's windy and rainy.
I can't enjoy, and people are like,
oh, I love this into like a storm in bed.
I'm like, I don't.
I don't.
I just, I think about all the fences that are going to get knocked down,
So all the horses that are going to escape
And then what happens if a horse runs onto a road
And then gets hit by a car
And then what happens if it's named
Or the person driving the cars hurt
I get, yeah, or the bunnies
I always worry about bunnies
But then I realise I needn't
Because they go underground
Birds, I think, are pretty resilient
Because they just hang out in trees
But then I can't speak for like tornadoes and hurricanes
Well yeah, they just have nests
Um
Yeah, but I don't think they fly away
although you do sometimes see footage from like tornadoes and hurricanes and stuff
and it's very upsetting and distressing to see a bird going the wrong way.
Oh, don't.
But then I just feel like they're fine.
They've just got to ride it out.
You know what I mean?
It's like, I'd say for everybody else, if you're spinning in a tornado and you're a rabbit,
it's like, fuck, because eventually the tornado is going to stop and I'm going to fall
and then I'm going to die because I can't fly.
But a bird that's zooming around, the minute the tornado ends is grand.
it just flaps its wings and trots on its way.
Yeah, unless it's become really like inactive, like passive
because it's like, oh, I don't be teased my wings
because I'm being blown around anyway.
Tornado suddenly stops and it has to like wake up.
Well, that's more full of the bird.
You've got to be alert.
You know what I mean?
There's a tornado.
Pay attention.
Put yourself together.
But if anyone could let us know what happens to the birds
when it's windy, I'd really like to know that they're okay.
I can only just sit in their nests.
But where are in trees?
I did find an owl that had fallen out.
You know where nests are?
In trees?
well yeah off
yeah but isn't that where it's windiest
up at the top
if they go right in if you go near the
oh my god
the trunk I was like what is the middle bed called
if you go near the trunk
looking at a tree out of the window
I was like what are you
if they go near the trunk it'll be alright
they'll be protected they've got all the leaves
on the trees and stuff
and then the birds that can't hack it
just fuck off somewhere else for the winter
do you know what I mean like the Canadian geese
they just come here in the winter
because it's too cold or they come here
because they were, I can't work out when they come here.
From Canada?
From Canada?
Yes.
I wonder where they stop and like refuel.
What do you mean refuel?
They don't need petrol.
No, but I am sorry, but like, how is a bird flying from Canada to the UK?
Like, a plane can just about do it.
Players are fine.
Can you just Google, yeah, migratory patterns of a Canadian goose?
Canada geese were imported by wealthy individuals
and are now as well established in the ones.
I don't think they fly from Canada.
Okay, Jesus, the UK.
Okay, geese migrate to Britain in the autumn.
Dave, Canada geese, do they fly? Do they migrate from Canada?
Can the birds fly from Canada to the UK?
Yeah.
Are you sure?
I don't know if it's from Canada, but yeah, they can fly that far?
Geese fly a long way.
Gees fly a long way, he says.
Oh, they're amazing.
I'm going to get to say Himalayas as well.
From the Himalayas?
Sometimes I hate Google.
Like, this should be an easy one.
Oh my God. Okay.
Some 15,000 white front geese visit our coasts from Scotland to southern England,
having summered in Greenland and Siberia.
But they have to stop along the way to rest up.
Surely.
This guy's come from Svalab.
Bad? Falabats, Flalabad.
Oh my God. I can't say that one.
I know where that is. I follow a girl who lives there.
Ask her if she thinks she could fly here in one go.
It's crazy. It's like this tiny, tiny little island. They don't have hot water. They don't have electricity.
Yes. The Canadian geese, there are now 62,000 pairs in the UK and the numbers growing.
They're large with a brown body and black neck. And it has become the UK's most familiar goose of park lakes.
So yeah, presumably they migrate from Canada.
They're just international jet setters.
They just hang out between the two places.
Well, I'm trying to see, do geese need to have a stopover?
Yeah, can a bird fly over the Atlantic?
They migrate continuously, except for short stopovers to fuel up on insects, fruit or seeds before continuing on their way.
The warblers, I don't know what they are, but they can fly non-stop over the Atlantic Ocean.
Wow.
They're doing three days and they don't need to land.
Albatrosses are also masters of soaring flight
able to glide over vast tracts of ocean
without flapping their wings.
So they have fully adapted to their oceanic existence
and they spend their first six more years of their long lives.
They can live to be 50.
Oh my God.
So hang on.
An albatross can fly for six years
without ever touching the land.
But how does it eat?
That's not possible, has it?
They probably just catch things, they catch fish.
So they touch sea, but not, can they rest in the sea?
No, they just land, they just gobble and keep going.
That is energy, that is stamina, that is pure stamina.
Six years.
I can't imagine you standing up for six hours.
Six minutes, I was going to say, but yeah, six hours too.
Unbelievable.
That is ridiculous.
Oh my God.
We spend way too much time talking about birds on this podcast.
Well, I was just about to say that we should get someone a bird expert on.
No one will listen to that.
Okay, never mind.
So good in theory.
Okay.
I feel like the older I get, the more fascinated I am by birds.
I agree.
So last weekend, Ellie and Joshua, my best mate and her boyfriend, got us a bird table for the garden.
What's that?
Well, it's like a table for the birds.
Oh, so is it a cable?
What's that?
It's a table for birds.
A bird table, like a bird feeder.
And we've hung it, I mean, to be honest, I'm going to, if I'm being truthful, it's not, it's not perfect because mostly the squirrels just eat all the food and then they just torment Bua because then she's just watching a squirrel eating the bird food in the garden and it drives her insane and it's actually kind of horrifying to witness.
But in theory it's great and I have these nice dreams of watching pigeons.
thrive nutritionally in my garden
tell me some videos
I love pigeons I need that
I will
but yeah I think I've told you this fun fact before
but you know pigeon lives for like six or seven years
I just think it's such a hard graft
like I just feel really sorry for them
I just look at London pigeons
and I'm just like it just looks fucking hard
you know what I mean like people are so cool
and I don't get it people are just so evil
so evil to them and foxes and rats yeah
Yeah
Rants have just had such bad PR
It's so unfair
Yeah but they're like no different to like
Other animals
Like okay I get the vermin thing
I know
They carry diseases
But like
I don't think the plague did the many favours
But it doesn't mean they should be treated any differently
Apart from possibly avoided
But like they shouldn't be treated badly
Like don't kiss one
I mean
But don't be nasty to it either
You know
They might consider it really nasty
That you're not kissing them
Possibly
Betty's licking her own family
all the time
you're actually giving that a ghost
and they're like right
so one ancestor of 400 years ago
had the plague and you're not going to kiss me
she had actually we had guests around
which was very embarrassing
and they were on the couch
and like Betty jumped up onto them
and she had something sticking out of her
her asshole
and it's never ever happened before
I feel bad saying asshole
I'm sorry Betty
her bum
and it was like
something was sticking out
and like it turned out there
it was like a hard piece of grass
really gross
but I was like
that's what they call a dingle
Is it?
When a sheep does a shit and it's like a little bit of poo gets stuck on their like wool,
because they've got loads of wool.
Oh, isn't it?
It's a dingleberry.
I thought it was a, well, my word for it is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is it.
But dingleberry is much nicer.
Yeah.
So she had a little dingleberry, that's nice.
How humiliating.
I know how humiliating.
And then Dave had to pull out.
So, anyway, um, I have an embarrassing story to,
to round us out.
We love nothing more
than an embarrassing story.
So,
thank you so much for your podcast.
It brings me so much joy in knowledge.
Knowledge.
Knowledge.
Well, well, well, well, well.
To be fair,
she might not have known
that an albatross can fly
for six years without landing,
had it not been for this
fountain of knowledge,
otherwise no less.
There you go.
Oh, shit heap of a podcast.
Yeah, I never had it down
as an informative podcast,
but here we are.
she said I honestly don't know what I did before listening oh my god that's so sweet but
socialized new sensible things I had like a flash of like all the different things in my
head that she could be doing but anyway so picture the scene my partner and I are at a swanky
hotel for one night in the Mediterranean treating ourselves before winter kicks in I spot
someone I was at school with over 15 years ago I that is
That is good. I probably wouldn't spot that.
I have freakishly good photographic memory, so I am unsure if she would recognize me,
but I recognize her and remember her name.
We keep passing each other in town, breakfast buffet, in the bar, ETC, ETC.
My brother comes to visit us for lunch, and I'm telling him the story and how weird it is that everyone,
and how weird it is that everywhere we go, she is five people away and joke, it's like we're following each other.
Anyway, we then go down to the beach and again manage to sit on the lounge
next to her, I texted my brother saying, don't make it obvious, but, person's name, is on the
lounger next to you. I told you she's following us. Ha, ha, ha. Little did I know. My brother
has Siri read out his texts, and Siri proceeds to read out the text so loudly. When I tell
you, I almost died. I am not exaggerating. My God, who the heck has Siri read out their texts?
I pretended to... Who the hell has Siri read out their text?
What kind of a madman?
What's his number?
Because I'm going to fuck up his life.
Yeah.
I pretended to fall asleep on my lounger until she left hours later.
I actually still can't handle this.
That's rough.
That's really bad.
What did the text say exactly again?
Don't make it obvious before we're sitting on the sun lounger next to us.
Let's call her Diana.
Oh no.
Let's call her.
Okay.
Let's call her.
Laura.
Laura.
I couldn't think of a girl's name.
Don't make it obvious, but Laura is on the lounger next to you.
I told you she's following us.
Ha ha ha.
yeah that's about as back as it gets because you know as well when syria goes ha ha ha ha yeah oh that's
really embarrassing that is really embarrassing oh no do you think you would have oh no i don't think
i would have addressed it i think i'd have just i don't know you know what i've realized
that i've started looking like an absolute lunatic because i have my air pods in and when i go
for my walk i listen to a podcast and and my headphones Siri like headphone Siri like headphone
I don't know what he's called, but he reads out all my notifications.
Yeah.
And I'm, it's so annoying because it's like, just let me listen to the fucking podcast.
Like, I don't care.
Like, because we've got so many WhatsApp groups for everything, for all our work and the
podcast and whatever and then like...
Everything.
Every, everything.
And so it's basically like having every email that you get read out and obviously, like,
our mental health.
So we're supposed to go for like walks and stuff and not be on our phones all the time.
So sometimes I just want to ignore them for like 20 minutes when I walk and then I'll deal with it
when I get back.
Anyway.
my thingy reads them out
and I know there is a way
of saying
stop reading the notifications for an hour
but I don't know the exact wording
so I'm literally
and I know because these are noise can't get the volume right
of myself so I'm walking along and I'm like
stop reading notifications
pause notifications
don't read notifications for now
and then I'm just like oh my God no one else
just turn them off completely
no one else is hearing the
I don't know how to do that
it right
it's two steps
go into settings
go into notifications
and right there
it says
announce notifications
and you just turn that off
okay
well but then
sometimes I might want them
there's a way
of stopping it for an hour
and he sometimes tells me
he says if you don't want
notifications say
but I always forget
what he tells me to say
so I just try every variation
it could be
and it never works
and I just know
that I'll just be walking along
this and I can absolutely
robot
stop reading notifications
stop reading notification
do not
and then I get
more and more irate.
And he's just like pissing himself at you.
Try again, Sucker.
Yeah.
I am not listening.
I can't believe your brother has his messages read out.
At least you know he's not dealing drugs or having an affair.
I can't believe that she hasn't met.
Like if I knew my brother had,
if I knew my brother had his messages read out,
I would just ruin his life.
Yeah.
Hi, did the hemorrhoids go down?
Who does?
does that though. I didn't even know that could happen, but there you go. Very embarrassing.
Somebody who either doesn't text a lot of people or who has just very solid trust in the people
who does text. Very embarrassing. Good God. Well, thank you all for sending in your
embarrassing stories and is it just me's? If you have anything you would like to send us
yeah, embarrassing stories or is it just me's? You can send them to, you can email us on
should I delete that pod at gmail.com or you can send a voice note. We are still loving.
the voice notes to the Instagram. Should I delete that? Should I delete that?
Stunning. Thank you very much for being here. We will see you on Monday for a new episode of
Can you remember the name? Oh, I thought you were thinking of the name. I was like,
should I delete that? No, no. We love you all very much. We'll see you on Monday. Thanks for
Bye.
Thank you so much for listening.
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