Should I Delete That? - Is It Just Me: Fireworks and toesies
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Hello.
While we've been sitting here, I have been sent a DM with absolutely zero context, no message.
Best kind of DMs.
No foreplay.
Just a photo of an elderly looking dash and in Crocs.
Oh, that's so cute.
Look how small they are.
And they're red crooks.
I don't understand how, although I did see a child in Crox yesterday.
And I thought, that's cool.
I like that.
Crocs are a real thing now, aren't they?
They are a vibe.
They're a vibe.
Yeah.
I'm on the hype.
I'm, like, are they comfy?
Is that the whole point?
They are.
Daisy's nodding.
Daisy knows.
They're obscenely comfortable.
Okay.
And you've got, you've got sports mode.
So if you're like lounging around the house, you have them in two-wheel drive.
You don't need to use the backstrap because, you know, who are you kidding.
But then when you're out and about, mad hustle a life, you know, London, crazy.
So are they good to wear around the house?
Like slippers?
Yes.
Think of a place.
Beach, perfection.
Like, you can wear them into the sea.
None of that awkward, oh, my feet.
You've got waterproof shoes on your feet.
That's quite cool.
Yeah, it's cool.
Actually, that's quite cool.
Yeah, it's really cool.
Okay, I have a very boring, is it just me, right?
I am struggling with what to wear my feet around the house.
While it's warm, it's not hot, like socks have no grip.
No.
wearing proper slippers is too much.
Like I've only got big fluffy slippers.
I don't like slippers.
There needs to be something.
But crocs seem too much, you know?
They're not.
They're not too much.
I don't like slippers because I think it makes my feet too hot.
They make your feet, well, yeah.
But there must be like lighter ones.
I don't know.
I don't like it.
It's like feet pros.
Have you ever worn toesies?
Don't.
You don't mean the ones with the baby toes stick out.
I went through a phase at school of wearing toesies
and I really told everyone that I liked it.
and I definitely didn't like it.
Sometimes you're trying to be like...
Wait, what's the...
Hang on.
Yeah, they're the toes...
The socks wear all your toes have a separate compartment.
They honestly, that sounds absolutely disgusting.
I know a man that wears shoes with toes.
Like, he wears shoes with toes.
They knock my stomach.
He wears them.
And you can't wear regular socks underneath those shoes.
So you have to wear tosy socks so that you can wear toesy shoes.
And he doesn't do it for irony.
He does it for, he's a physiotherapist.
He is one of the nicest men I know, and I can't quite see past it.
It's a huge block in our friendship.
That sounds really disgusting.
Because I look at his face and I think nice guy.
I look at his body and I think nice guy.
I look at his feet and I think...
Wait, does he wear them out, out?
Everywhere.
He did the thing.
Three Peaks, the Three Peaks of the Hags last year, Yorkshire Three Peaks, wore his Tozies shoes.
I mean, I love that he just doesn't give a fuck. He's like, I will wear my Toesies.
What are they called? What are they called? Well, I've just Googled Toesies and all that comes
up is like, childish noun for toes, for plural toes. Right, well, that's us, called out.
Or, no, Urban Dictionary Toesies are little square toes that are small and very wiggly and can be
fun to look at or feel with your hand or other toes foot gloves foot glove that's stupid you know
there's nothing that annoys me more in this life than not being able to name the thing that you're
thinking of so yesterday i had this with alex when i was walking and i was like oh my god we need because
we got a really big vase as a wedding present like a really big one and all flowers look stupid in
it because it's so big right yeah what a first world problem but anyway so i was thinking i was
like there's something really specific we need for this vase and it's
It's like those flowers, no, it's not flowers.
This honestly made me want to cry with frustration yesterday,
trying to explain it to Alex.
And the worst that is I knew that he knew what I meant,
and I knew that he knew what I meant was called.
And he still sat there going, wait, what?
Was he withholding it?
He was being an absolute prick.
That's really mean.
But trying to explain this thing, and it was like,
I'm going to try to explain it to you,
and you're going to know exactly what I mean,
with this horrifying description.
but it's like they're plants
but I think they're fake or dead or dried
so either they're fake or like deliberately dried
and they look like they could be like feather dusters
and they go like they look like they look like they could be feathers
but they're big and sometimes they're dyed like pale pink or cream
yes what the fuck do you start Googling to find that
did you mean pampas grass right oh what you know what it's called as well
yeah I have no idea what it's called and I was like
And I was trying to Google, I was like plant that looks like a feather
that might be dead that could be pink.
And it was killing me.
And now I feel like it's the same with like, what is it called?
What a foot, foot shoes called, where your toes have their own compartments?
You can't Google that.
It's like when you're so far off the spelling with autocorrect that it doesn't even know
what you're trying to do.
And it's like, oh my God, I'm trapped in my own brain.
That's like when you know a song, but you don't know the lyrics.
So you can't Google the lyrics.
You only know the tune.
Apparently, Shazam can help you with that now, but.
wouldn't be able to help me.
Exactly.
Depends on whether you can hold a tune or not.
Honestly, I'm a prisoner to my own skull sometimes.
Kim Kardashian, I've just done a quick Google
because I remember seeing,
she has like tons of pamper's grass.
Like her house is like full of the...
She's probably changed it right now
because she does this massive like redesign, redecoration
doesn't she every like couple weeks or whatever, but...
Pampas grass.
Are you saying grass?
Is it Pampas grass?
That's exactly it.
Yeah, Pampas grass.
Yeah, Alex was doing this yesterday
and he was like, wait, what noise did you?
you think it made this plant?
It's like, I swear to God, I'm going to deck you, my friend.
Pampas crap, pamper.
It's a stupid fucking word anyway.
But yeah, that's exactly it.
And that's going to look so good.
That's going to look so good.
Oh, my God, I absolutely love it.
Yeah, so it's fake or real, depending on what you buy.
Absolutely, yeah, couldn't be better.
Yeah, I'm going to buy some Pampas grass and I'm going to put it in the big vase and
everything's going to be fine.
It is beautiful.
Although, I worry it's had its day now, but who cares, you know, who cares?
Says who.
Exactly.
Like, how sad to just be like a plant that just exists forever.
And then someone in 2022 is like, it's past it.
I know.
I feel I see it so much now, but it's beautiful.
Wait till someone does that with like Christmas trees.
I feel they just have their day now.
Yeah.
Everyone's over it.
Nuts.
Toes.
Well, what the toe shoes called again?
Toe gloves.
Foot gloves.
Foot gloves.
I think.
are properly fucking sinister
aren't they? Aren't they?
Sinister's the word.
Like where do you even
like why? And what gets you
into that? But it's the having to wear
the socks to wear the shoes for me
but you've got to commit so deeply
and like how much longer does it take
in the morning to get ready?
You know I hate putting gloves on because it's two in the
two in one hole
where's the thumb put it on the wrong hand.
You've got to individually stick each toe
into this little compartment.
I like my toes touching.
It brings me a sort of sense of like clammy comfort.
So I actually like the idea of them in that sense, but...
Maybe we've just found your house shoe.
Maybe we've found your summer house shoe.
Dave will love that.
I don't...
I was having this conversation with Fifi.
Like, I don't like anything touching.
Like with my armpits, like my dress has to go right up to the armpits so my armpits don't
touch.
And my thighs, like something has to go in between them so they don't touch, you know?
Anyway.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Alex Light's like something between the thighs.
I ask for that.
I like my skin touching my skin.
The worst thing about me is it just me?
And it's actually, if you haven't noticed that I do this
and I've done really, really, really well to hide it.
But one of my most satisfying and comfortable things that I do is sit like that.
Yeah.
You notice that I do that.
Yeah, you do do that.
So, listeners, I fold my top lip back on itself.
It doesn't work now because I'm.
I'm warm, but when I'm cold and I can feel my top lip against, like, the underside of my nose
and my cheek, it's so satisfying. I always assume it's something to do with your jaw. No, this
happened before my jaw. I've always done this. It's weird. It's really weird. Like,
honestly, the amount of, like, candid photos of me as a kid just sitting there, like, with my lip,
like, folded over. It's always just brought me, like, a lot of, like, comfort. I also like
folding my ears in, and I can, and I do this all the time, I fold my ears in, and because of some of the
piercings I can hook when I wear a hoop in this I can hook it closed so I can hook my ear closed
just by like pushing them in that's one of my favorite things I feel like mine are too stiff my ears
to do my ears are super bending I don't want to show off but yeah like look at that just
ooh eh you're almost going to like fold it inside itself that's what I do I just fold them all in
and then just like squish it in the gap there and then sometimes it's quite fun actually it's so
fun and then sometimes it'll just stay there like if I've got a big enough hoop in I can get it
like lodged in the log hole and then just like leave it closed.
Do you know, this is unlocked for me when I, like, so when I was little,
when I was in like primary school, I think, and then actually it did go into secondary
school, I'd do this thing where I'd like try and fold in my bottom lip, I don't know how else
to describe it.
Yeah, I'd go it like that.
But it became a real thing, like a tick.
I've done it.
And yeah.
And I did it so much that I basically like burn all the outside of my lip.
That's so you.
And like scabbed it up.
I can't have nice things, can you?
My mom was like, we need to go to the doctors.
Like there's something really wrong with that.
Oh my God.
I know.
I was just like, it became like a tick or something.
I don't know.
Just.
Yeah, I get it.
Like a nervous thing.
My Alex put a drawing pin through his bottom lip once and pour it as a piercing.
Fucking hell.
Because he was cool.
A drawing pin is so blunt as well.
So blunt.
I know.
I think it's like a classroom as well.
I remember I stepped on a drawing pin that was.
was like sitting upwards with my heel, like my bare heel and it went all the way in.
I was like, get it out.
That has gone through me.
I remember a girl in the year above me.
It's called stepping on a plug socket.
No, no, no, no.
An upside down plug socket.
No.
That goes through me.
That, that's trauma for me.
Like when I, because I've unplugged, I've got too many electronical things next to my bed.
So one of them has to be unplugged at all times.
And I just have these are like intrusive.
nightmares about stepping on the plug-ups I have one that's worse not for me my my friend's friend
they live there from lewis you know they have that huge uh firework display parade march thing
there on whenever bonfire night is and remember remember the fifth of november which is a very
weird rhyme that we were told why did we have to remember remember the fifth of november so many
important dates to remember but a foiled terrorist plot doesn't really seem like one i've never
understood firework night why are we going to celebrate a
terrorist.
No, weird.
And with more explosives.
Like, I just, I hate fireworks.
I fucking hate fireworks.
I hate them so much.
I just fucking hate them.
But they were doing this March, doing this parade, and he, this guy stepped on a hot nail.
Why was there a hot nail on the floor?
It's to do with the fireworks or something.
I don't really, really know, because it was like obviously passed out when they told
this.
And it went through his shoe, through his foot, all the way through his foot.
This like, I know, it's like burning hot.
Oh, God.
I'd probably come with a trick and not mourning warning.
Well, I'd rather a hot one than a cold one.
Searing hot, almost, I feel like it might almost be a bit nice in a perverse sort of way.
Absolutely not.
I feel like we need to give context for hating fireworks because I just think we've just dropped that truth bomb and left.
And I think a lot of people are going to be pissed off because people, like, I don't have context.
I just hate them.
You know, fireworks are illegally in Ireland, which makes a lot of sense to me.
They should be.
That's a very good law that the Irish have.
So Alex, since he's moved here, it's like, oh my God, like fireworks, like so cool.
You can just go and buy them in a shop.
And I'm like, this is stupid that we can buy them in a shop?
Like, why is this a good thing that we can just go and buy explosives?
You know, the people around the back of my house?
There's a park around the back of my house.
It's not that great.
And they've been doing fireworks at dogs.
I'm like, don't give people fireworks.
It's so annoying.
Like we can't be trusted.
If they're going to happen, then they should happen.
I think this happens in Ireland, where there's one person in charge of the fireworks and they do a
display. Yeah, it's super controlled. Yeah. But like just when it's like randomly October,
at end of October, people just start letting them off in their gardens. I'm like, this is crazy.
I know a guy who lost his hand to a firework. Oh, they kill people, don't they? Like, and they're
bad for the environment. It's not even like a good thing. And they terrify cattle and dogs.
Do you know, I, yeah. And like sometimes sheep just die. Poor dogs and cats as well. You know,
sometimes after after fireworks, like they just find dead sheep because they've had heart attacks because
it's so frightened. Stupid fireworks. My ex-boyfriend was obsessed.
the fireworks he'd like he even traveled somewhere to watch the firework Olympics whoa see I like
daytime fireworks why we had daytime fireworks at the wedding because I think yeah like one they
don't go on for as long I don't know I just think it's just less scary during the day yeah I don't
know I think there's something about banging at night also for PTSD sufferers like like like like banging
during the day I don't know it's like oh I said bang you know carve back fire things make bangs
but at nighttime it's like and in London it's like it's like and in London it's like it's been minding
your own business.
I might be a total hypocrite
having a day of fireworks at the wedding
but then at like two in the morning
so you're just minding your business
and then whee, pf!
I know.
And you could just be lying at bed
like what the fuck was that?
Did I just get shot?
Yeah, it's my like
was that at my roof?
Like who knows?
Oh, horrible.
I hate them.
I'm actually surprised that more things
don't go wrong with fireworks.
Like I'm surprised
that like more houses
don't like get hit.
Yeah.
Because like what's to say
that you've aimed it properly upwards?
Well, well, when I was in
uni and we went to a little park in Manchester
and someone besides
was just doing a casseroom wheel
and you're supposed to pin them into the ground
and so it kind of anchors
the, I don't know, anyway, I have no idea
they didn't pin it into the ground
and it just spiraled obviously out of control
and it swear it missed me by like
centimetres like that was my closest
near death experience, but I don't know
if it would have killed me but I'd have gone on fire
I'm not sure
it can't have been good
it would have been horrifying but also
like that would only you
I know you'd have been like in the closer like doing an interview it's like a Catherine
ruined my life it was so shocking we were all running because we saw it happen in slow motion
and me I was with two mates and we just we started we're like oh my god this is out of control
it's coming towards as we were running and literally I nearly died yeah it would be like
Alex lights sparks controversy after new campaign starts with a back
Bang.
Oh, God.
She's wheeling out regulations.
Daisy's just come back in the room.
And we have to tell her that it's been like 25 minutes and we still haven't even done one.
We haven't even read any others.
Do you remember when you used to make a sim have sex and it would always go like,
sorry, you'd make a sim, woo-hoo.
And it would have the fireworks over their bed.
I was so disappointed the first time I woo-hooed and there weren't.
No fireworks.
Imagine the fucking trauma.
You're having sex and then just bam over your head.
It's just explosives.
you'd be like, fucking hell!
Right.
Ciz's face, she's like, end it.
She's like, you twits.
Okay, I've got something.
Okay, got a random, is it just me?
Go on.
Hi, you lovely lot.
Obviously, love the podcast.
Is it just me who feels like, oh no.
Oh, God.
What?
It's not happy.
It's not good.
No.
And it's not true, Sender.
Is it just me who feels like they don't really belong anywhere?
I literally only have two friends.
I'd say they were close friends, but equally I can go a week without hearing from them
or getting a reply from them.
I thought my cousin was as close as a sister until I was completely left out of her wedding.
I never seemed to fit into any social groups and always just feel like an outsider looking in.
And I don't understand why, as I genuinely do think I'm a nice person.
Same when it comes to relationships.
I've been single for nearly five years and it's really getting me down.
But literally no guy seems interested in me.
I get no matches on dating apps and no one.
interest from guys if i'm out although that's rare given the lack of people i have to go out socially
with starting to feel so lonely and as i approach my 30s i feel like maybe i'm just destined to be by
myself is it just me if you got this far then thank you oh i want to give you the biggest hug
oh me too ever i'm really sad to read that because i mean and i'm even sadder because i'd say
it's definitely not just you like i know so many people feel lonely and it's what we talked about
last week about like when you think you're closer to somebody else yeah and that was really mean of your
cousin i'm so sorry that must have been so painful like i think yeah i mean you say you've got like
your friends you've got two friends and sometimes you can take a week to you know like take time or they
can take time to reply and i don't think that's indicative of like you i don't think that means
they're not your friends i think like i'm definitely a friend that takes a long time to reply i think
sometimes that can be the case in friendships but i i think you should go out if you can face it and
like go and try and make some new friends yeah like get out what do you like doing do you want to come
to a hags event make some friends with some oh my gosh the hags are the nicest group of people
100% even if you don't really like exercise it's the haver goes it's a group that I run um for it's about
like making exercise less scary and a bit more approachable and less intimidating and the girls in that
group are the best like the Facebook group's amazing so you could find people to meet up with or like
we're doing a lot of events next year.
We've got a couple of finishing up this year.
So you could maybe go and meet some like-minded friends.
But if you fucking hate exercise,
then there's loads of other things that you can do.
Like, how else do you make friends as an adorn?
Yeah, well, I mean, there are great online communities as well
that do spill over then into, or like can build up into real life stuff,
book clubs.
There's those of community events.
Like, if you look at your local community,
volunteering for staff.
Depends where she lives.
I'd like to know where she lives.
apparently is really good.
BFF, yeah.
I didn't think there's any shame,
particularly after COVID,
in saying I don't have very many friends
or I would like to make more friends.
Like, I think a lot of people feel the same way.
I'd like to know where this girl's base
because I feel like that would help us,
does she give any indication, no?
No.
Actually, well, but there is stuff everywhere.
There's like clubs you can join.
A really good app, I think, I believe, is next door.
and it's in your neighborhood
like you sign up to your neighborhood
and then there's like stuff you can do
in there's like events
and like festivals and little things
and you can get like a community
feel from that
so that could be a good app as well
I just want you to know like from
the message that you send
like I've read variations of that
so many times
like it's something that I see in my DMs a lot
I did a post at Christmas
just gone
I don't if you remember
but about like trying to,
and it was really hard to facilitate
because it's like, you don't know how to do it,
but I got so many messages from people
who just felt really lonely at Christmas.
And one of my best friends talks about not having very many friends
or like having any friends.
Like she kind of says it and whatever.
And I just, I know it's like,
I know it's a really common thing
and it's really hard, particularly like post-COVID,
the way that we work, where we end up living.
And, you know, you can get,
you can end up with a set and then be let down by the set
or you can change and you can grow up
and then you don't want to be part of that.
but then how the fuck do you make you like it's so common um so i tried to do that thing at
christmas where people could just like comment with where they lived and invite people over and
i think a bit of it worked but it was really hard to like you know bring it fully to fruition but
i just know that like i wish we could do something because i but you're just you won't you will not
be alone with that and i bet if you said it i don't know i guess on mumble bff or whatever like
i think a lot of people feel the same way yeah no you're right there's no shame in it so someone
one close to me actually feels, actually very similar to this girl's situation. And I do think
you just haven't found your people yet. Yeah, totally. And I think you can meet like, it's never
too late. No. Like, and I think, I'm not saying that you have to have children for this to happen,
but I think it's really telling when you look at when people do have children, how many new friends
moms make. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, God, it's crazy that like some people end up with
friends in their lives that they meet with like 35.
that just like in their lives forever
and it's just like
and it's a kid's brought you together
but it could be anything
you know I think I just use that as an example
because it's a very common one
but like people do make friends
all like my mom makes new friends
really yeah this is
a really like odd thing
but it's my auntie's funeral last weekend
and last week
and my mom met
one of her or remet
I suppose like one of her
one of my because of 16 years
between my mom and her sister who died
and she she remet like
one of Rose's friends from school, from, like, primary school.
And they'd grown up and they hung out all the time,
and they'd kind of met for the first time properly at the funeral.
And it just so happened that this lady, who was like, yeah, Rose's best friend,
just so happened that the next day she was going to be in my mum's local area.
And my mum was like, oh, come over.
And she ended up staying the night, and the two of them sat up and, like, drank wine all night
and talked about Rose and, like, had the best night.
And it's like, mum's just made this, like, new friend in this, like, extraordinary,
circumstance and this lady's in her 70s and it's like
it's never too late to make new friends no never and a lot like if you're
feeling this way a lot of other people are going to feel this way as well and so
they will be wanting to make friends so you will find people out there
100% there's horrible people in the world like Alex who don't want to make any new
friends and then there's people like me and I'm like I want new friends every
single day if someone came up to me and said openly I want new friends I'd be like
can you get over here like you get this room here
Like, I love a new friend.
It's so weird post-COVID.
I think it's really hard.
And, like, yeah, your jobs are difficult.
Like, people that work crazy hours.
Yeah.
You don't go into work as much.
Mental health isn't great either.
So, like, you know, the friends that don't message you back, like, like I said,
it's probably absolutely nothing to do with you.
You just don't know.
But, yeah, go out and try and find some friends who maybe match your expectations a bit more, I guess.
Who you can just, like, chat with and, like,
what's up like daily yeah and date friends like yeah just get get put your yeah but will be
a friend that's literally the whole premise of it yeah i think people have made really good friends on
yeah yeah yeah i think like putting your heart and i can understand after a while it can start to
feel like a bit dispiriting you know like you can feel a bit like oh well i didn't get replied
to this and i didn't get to reply to this and then you can kind of like project that onto all
areas of your life and think oh no one wants to date me no one wants to whatever and you can
really make it about you and like make it feel like you've done something
wrong but I don't think you have at all and you said in the thing you said in the email that
you think you're a nice person and I think that's the loveliest thing ever I love it when people
think they're nice people because if you think you're a nice person then you are a nice person
yeah and that's lovely so it's definitely not anything you're doing wrong it's just circumstantial
and that's happening to a lot of people so put your heart out there oh my god yeah I want to do a
meetup where everyone can just make friends I hope this girl will like let us know do a follow-up in like a few
months time or something yeah if you do manage to like get out and join clubs or the apps or
yeah all the hags yeah or yeah there's like park like park run while it's still summer yeah sorry
i just know so many exercise based ones but i think people do make friends at those i don't know man
i just but i think you're lovely and i think you're going to meet yeah you're going to meet so many
light-minded people you know as well when i moved into my new house that's how i met fliss she just
offered me her chair from next door and like i just made a friend like literally because she just offered
meet one of her chairs like you just make friends in the randomest of places you just have to have
like your heart open to it yeah like me not like Alex I'd like to clarify that the reason I say
no new friends is because I've got so many fucking sisters and it's hard to manage my life as it is
okay I've got another one this is the subject of this email is flattering beyond
they've said your queen level opinions are wanted
I die
I die
Oh my god
That's so cool
Taking it
Hi Alex and M
Of course I'm obsessed with you both
And your podcast
Of everything you both stand for
And you've given me so much confidence
And having strong opinions
About feminism
Beauty standards etc
All the stuff we need to have
To deal with
Sorry all the stuff we
Can I read
And all the stuff we have to deal with
That email has gone straight to my head
However
Oh
Yeah
You're good but you're not that good
Okay
I'm in a pickle with my job
And life
And would like to hear your opinions
even though I can probably guess.
So I work on super yachts.
I have so many questions.
She says, like the reality TV show below deck.
One of my favorite shows all time.
That single-handly got me through my broken jaw, like, and a global pandemic.
Oh, God.
So I work on super yachts, like the reality TV show below deck, and it was a huge dream of
mine, and I've built up to a good job and worked really hard.
However, in my current job, there has been a couple of things that have made me lose my confidence.
A colleague male in his 40s
has made repeated comments about my weight
such as you go running
not at the weight you are now though
must have been thinner then
and even this life jacket
would save large people like you
and why are you always eating you fatty
firstly how do you confront
someone in this situation
and how would you try not to let it affect you
it's knocked me down a lot
Secondly, the captain called a meeting and said girls should look more put together and wear makeup, opinions on altering your appearance because your boss says you have to.
My gut feeling says this industry isn't for me, but it's tough thinking of completely walking away from something that was my dream.
Can you stick out a bad situation and make it better going forwards or just walk away?
We'd love to hear your opinions.
I hope you're both well and I'm looking forward to the next step.
that's annoying because before you did point two
I was going to say report him to the captain
yeah but the captain also sounds
a bit like a cock as well
that was the one thing
watching not to completely like trivialise your job
and say it is exactly like the reality TV show
but that is one thing that you did
and oddly I was looking back at my old stories
from like February when my face was all fucked up
and I did loads about the difference
on the boats when it was Captain Sandy
versus Captain Lee
and like you can really see like the misogyny in that culture it's kind of I guess kind of the
same as like how people always been about like trolley dollies and yeah like air hostesses and
I guess you look that's okay firstly so shit that guy's an absolute dick and if you can face like
calling him out and reporting him and continuing to report him and insist that something's done
there there is like from below deck I remember there is like a
a committee that like oversees all the captains and everything, isn't there? Like a yachting
committee or something. I don't know how far up you can take it. It's just the thing that dogs do
when they've got worms and they scoot their bum across the floor. That is yachting. So it's like a
yachting committee and I just imagine a whole lot of like spaniels like scraping their arms
on the ground. No, well, I don't know how far up you can take it but I would fight for it. This
is your dream. This is what you love. You love doing it. You fight for it. And also,
if you can face it
you shouldn't have to
but if you can face it
change it from the inside
and like do some
like campaign
if that's the right word
or like just try and
make it better
and like call it out whenever you can
and also like try and get people
on your side with it as well
like I imagine there are other girls on the boat
who are feeling the same way
about other well
fatphobic and then misogynistic comments as well
and yeah
but then
And that's easier said than done because that's really hard to have to do.
And you shouldn't have to do that.
You should just be able to go to your job and just work without the worry of someone
calling you fat.
But you definitely shouldn't be pushed out of an industry that was your dream.
And it is your dream and you've got every right to be there.
And I think even if this boat isn't working out and this captain isn't working out,
I don't think it's all going to be like that, right?
Like maybe you could go and work under a female captain or, like I think you're well
within your rights to make a complaint.
But that is verbal abuse, right?
What that man is saying to her.
And actually, even with the man, the boss, the captain saying they have to wear makeup,
yes, like that kind of does show us their leanings.
But it doesn't necessarily mean they won't take the first comments made seriously.
Yeah.
And it's not a re, just because they, you know, they're pushing like a misogynistic angle,
it doesn't mean that you should take being bullied at your workplace because you think they might
not listen.
Like they still have a duty of care to you.
So you've every right to complain.
And the captain still has someone to answer to, so.
Yeah, 100%.
And you shouldn't be made to feel like that at your job.
Yeah.
I'm really pissed off.
Change it from the inside.
Yeah.
Don't back down.
Oh, and then you ask as well,
like how can you not let it affect you?
And again, it's really easier said than done.
And it's something that Al and I are learning on the daily
because I totally had a breakdown on Thursday night
about all these people who don't like me,
but I'm fine and whatever.
But I think reminding yourself,
of like what a great person you are in your entirety
and like all the things about you
that are good and kind
and that you're proud of
and like the traits of yourself
you know you're hardworking
you know your great fun
you know whatever it is about yourself
and it's like this person
this fucking moron
wants to single you down to this one tiny thing
that he thinks is so important
like how fucking sad
like that's all he can see
That's where his perspective goes.
Like there's just, there's nothing to this man.
He's a moron.
And that it's no reflection of you.
And, you know, he thinks he's funny and he's not funny and that's sad.
I think there's nothing sad than a man that thinks they're funny when they're not.
So sad.
So sad.
Stand up to him.
Yeah, and comments like that.
Or just literally know that you don't owe him anything.
Like men like that just think they owe, that they're owed desirability and they think that
it's every single woman's priority in life
to like make themselves desirable to him
but you don't want him and who would want him
like nobody wants him because nobody wants to be
with somebody that treats women like that
so it's like it's that thing
it's a really powerful thought that I have all the time
and I'm like why do I want everybody to like me
when I don't like everybody?
Like I think you might have to just make your peace with the fact
that this guy's a massive fucking jackass
you don't want to be his friend, you don't want to hang out with him
you don't want to go around his mum's house
Like you just you don't want this person in your life
so you don't need them to be nice to you
because they're an ass
so you just look at that person and be like
you're a very sad and strange little loser
and your opinion of me has no reflection of who I am
having said that you're making this work environment
very unpleasant so I'm going to complain and hopefully get you fired
report him report him immediately and I can hear you being like
oh but it didn't happen that recently but you're allowed to
it does not matter you're allowed to have your time to sit on it
and think about what you want to do
and collate everything that he's ever said to you
that was discriminatory and then take it to whoever's in charge.
And I just want to make a point as well
because I know that it can be kind of embarrassing,
I think, people like victims of bullying sometimes.
Like I've always felt very embarrassed
about the things that people like troll me about, for example,
because I think sometimes like saying out loud
what a troll or a bully has said can be quite embarrassing.
So, you know, you don't, and I really do,
And I'm not, if this isn't how you feel, then amazing.
And sorry, I've put this in your head.
But, like, it's something for me.
Like, if somebody says something about me and I think,
fuck, I don't even want to repeat that.
Like, I don't want my friends to see this or hear this
because, like, maybe they can all see it.
Yeah.
And this guy's pointed out the big elephant in the room and whatever.
But you have to remember that that's not how most people think.
And, like, I'm always very embarrassed.
When I read bad things about myself, people will say, you know,
whatever it is about me.
And I'd be so embarrassed to say it out loud
because I'd think, oh my God, imagine if my friends saw this.
Well, recently my friends have started seeing things people say about me
and their response is always, what a fucking prick.
It's not, oh my God, yeah, I did never know who's actually before.
But yeah, you are kind of like all of these things.
It's not this big thing that when you say it out loud,
it's going to solidify it and make it real
and everybody else's head.
It's still the opinion.
Yeah, it's opinion of one loser.
So, and I'm, yeah, I'm just saying that in case there's any,
embarrassment with coming forwards about stuff because sometimes being the victim of
bullying is so unfairly embarrassing for no fucking good reason.
So don't be embarrassed.
You haven't done anything wrong.
This person has and quite frankly they can suck a dick.
And save this to listen to just before you go and report him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then put on, yeah, put on like, like, what doesn't kill me makes me stronger.
Kelly Clarkson will get you through.
Fight song by Rachel Platton.
I can't help you
with this, sorry.
What about
Ugly by the Sugar Babes?
That's a great song,
great anti-bullying message.
Oh, don't make me sing it.
But it's like,
if I'm ugly, then so are you.
Oh, that's a nice song actually.
Yeah, so nice.
Oh my God, love that.
Yeah, I listen to a lot of these.
I really am a cliche, huh?
Yeah, oh my God,
oh my God, you should make a Spotify playlist.
Well, I've got my Feel Good Friday playlist anyway,
which people ask for all the time.
That's very positive.
but I could make a specific
don't be embarrassed
that you're being bullied playlist
to listen to.
Yeah, like, yeah,
because I sometimes just sit there and cry
and then sometimes it just takes me putting on Kelly Clarkson
and then I'm like,
never mind, I'll be all right.
Cool,
you're going to be fine and I'm proud of you
and don't give up on your dream.
Like, tell us something,
but it's cool,
and then when me and Al like hit like 10 million
and we've got loads of money,
then we'll come and rent the boat.
I would love to have someone on the podcast, right,
who would like spill the secrets of yachting.
Again, I just think of the Spaniels.
We better wrap up.
Okay.
Well, thanks for listening.
Thank you so much for listening.
So fucking awkward.
We need to, I know.
We should just pre-record a finish that we should just put at the end of every single one.
Thank you for being here.
Thank you for listening.
Sorry to Firework Fanatics.
Thanks for listening to our Queen level opinions.
That is something that we have to pretend we've never heard that.
That is not something that either of our egos can take.
Yeah, don't worry.
I don't think that's going to our heads any time soon.
I mean, I'm going to get it on a magnet and a sweatshirt
and then tattooed onto my forearm, but fine.
Okay, guys, thank you so much for listening.
Have a lovely weekend and we will see you on Monday.
Bye.
Bye.
Thank you so much for listening.
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