Should I Delete That? - Is It Just Me: Hot takes

Episode Date: January 19, 2023

In this week’s Is It Just Me? the girls answer 0 emails, discuss Em's special friendship with Molly Mae and catch up on "current affairs"...Follow us on Instagram @shouldideletethatEmail us at [e-mail] & edited by Daisy GrantMusic by Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Do you're in person. Is it just me? Is it just me? It's in person. It's been a while actually, hasn't it? Yes. Yeah. Yes. And I have something topical I need to talk to you about off the top. Oh, excellent. I love a topical. Is it Just Me? Hit me. I don't think this isn't Is It Just Me. It's just something I really need to talk to you about and I can't wait until GBA. Myles Cyrus's new song. Oh my God Which is so good

But the veiled dig At Liam Hemsworth The multiple digs Okay so I saw on your Instagram story yesterday That you seem to know something about what he did To her like a breadcard Like I don't know anything about her and his relationship All I saw on TikTok

Because I started using TikTok Because I've got to a stage of pregnancy Where I can't do anything else And I saw a video on TikTok And I've saved it to play because, so Miley Cyrus, if you don't know, it's released a new song, and it's called Flowers, and it's so good, okay?

So apparently, a bit of gossip, like, with no, well, I don't know. I'm just, I'm just poling. It's all speculation, guys. Don't sue us. Yeah, exactly. I'm just ching wagon here. But apparently, Bruno Mars, no, sorry, Liam Hensworth dedicated Bruno Mars' song

when I was your man to Miley Cyrus at some point, okay? I saw this video of the two songs side by side. Yeah, go on. Can I play it? Yeah. Are you ready? I should have bought you flowers. I can buy myself flowers.

And held your hand. And I can hold my head. Should I give you all my hours? Talk to myself for hours. Make you to everybody because all you wanted to do was telling. I can take myself dancing. I love it. That is.

I was like, yes, bitch. Undeniable. It's just stunning. So now I need some context, please, because I have found myself enthralled. But it's annoying when you catch up on some internet drama. Yeah. But then you don't know what's happened before. And it's actually really hard to find the beginning bits.

So I'm a bit confused on this actually. But I think, so I think that the video for Flavis That was shot, allegedly, I mean, lo, like Liam Hensworth is going to serve us. But allegedly, allegedly, allegedly. I would not be mad if Liam Evans was, like, it would be so cool. It would be like, yeah, notice me. Like, we don't have much. Hi, Lee.

Oh no, that really brings him down a peg. He's called Lee. Lee. Yeah, it really changes things. So apparently he cheated on her with 14 other women. and he did it in the house where she shot that video flowers and she wore the suit the suit that she's wearing in that video is a suit that he wore when he told her to behave on a red carpet

and if you Google like if you just go on TikTok and type in My Cyrus Behave you can see like she she pretends to lick him and he says to her could you just behave for once? Yeah like a dog yeah interesting so she is like I mean shots have been fired shots have been fired I am obsessed she has not tried to conceal no and I love the song

God she looks good in the video I'm just I love the song yeah I'm losing my mind yeah and I love being with the drama like I love it when something's happening and I'm not late I'm like oh my god this is something else happening in

I was like telling my Alex about her and I was like oh my god like look at the internet like look what's happening Oh, I know what it is. It's Brittany. It's Britney. Wait, I am so confused with this Britney thing. There are so many conspiracy theories. Well, yeah, there is. And about like the Madonna wearing the same outfit. Did you see that one?

Like, I mean, it's not the medium to show you because I've got the video saved on TikTok, but I can't show you because everyone will be like, this is very boring to listen to. But basically, to surmise, and there was probably a very logical explanation, but I am in no mind, like no mood for logic. But apparently, Madonna wore to Britney's wedding the same dress as what she wore to her own birthday and had exactly the same nails. That's weird. Very weird.

Why would Madonna re-wear it? And they're like, the events are like two months apart. People are speculating that the wedding wasn't real or Britney wasn't actually there or like, I don't know. And there's all this stuff about how like Donatella and like Madonna were all wearing sunglasses. In all the photos, everybody's wearing sunglars. glasses apart from Brittany.

Right. So then they could put a fake face, like, if it wasn't actually Britney. But I mean, that's so intense. Like, what did they pay all these celebrities and people to... I know, well, I think this is people are saying... I want to talk about Selena Gomez as well. This has become a real current affairs podcast. Hasn't it?

Yeah. I mean... But let's go. Yeah, I mean, the Britney thing, I don't know, it's probably just a little shit. I'm confused because every time I go on TikTok, I see a different conspiracy theory. about her. But I'm also really struggling like I saw a really good Instagram post about like how apparently she had a manic

episode in a restaurant in LA and somebody made a really good point and it's just like well here we go like vilifying her mental health again like the way all the headlines are like she's manic she's mad she's like she's like she's crazy and it's just like well look what happened last time you said all this about her I mean it is strange

that we don't have any pat photos there aren't any pat photos of her isn't it or there are people like fans taking videos and photos of her out and about it seems really strange Really strange. Because even like, you know, she says she goes on holiday and stuff. I still follow her on Instagram. I get very confused.

But even when she's like going, I can't believe I care so much. Anyway, I do. Yeah. Yeah. But then I look like Perez Hilton did this whole, I mean, I can't abide that man. Even with his comeback tour. But he did a whole, he did a video about how he knew the answer. Like he knew the truth.

And I think basically he was implying that, or he was alluding to the fact that she's basically in another conservative, in conservative. conservatorship but by her with her husband her husband's controlling it now. Yeah, that's what a lot of people are saying because it's like even when she shows like on her social media, I read the comments a lot. I really, this baby cannot come soon enough because I'm just like scrolling the comments. But people are saying all the time about how she is always at home, always in the same room. But he, whenever he's in videos, he's always got like his coat on and his like hat and, like even if she's filming him, he's always in his

like coat and stuff. And it's like, if you're at home, why would you just be and you coat and your hat all the time. I don't believe everything's entirely o'fay because there's definitely something going on. Because otherwise she would just, and surely she would just do a video, like a, not alive, but it only may be alive or like something. And the comments keep being turned off on a post. Yeah, it's strange.

It's definitely suss. And if she's not well, then I actually feel really sad that there's just so much speculation, which obviously I'm adding to, so I'm a complete hypocrite, but by having all of these thoughts. is so much speculation. But people, you know, we were so surprised when it came out that she was in a conservative ship. I remember sitting with my mom, I think, like, I was at my mom's house and I was like, oh my God, and like, we were reading it

and it was like, how does this happen? Like, it's Britney Spears, like, and all this time, we just had no idea. And I just feel like it's going to be like that again. Like, we just miss it, oh. All the signs of them. I'm so confused. I know, I am too. But then I can't look too much into these things because then they make me stressed.

But then I also just won't know the answer. It's absolutely none of my business. I know. Why do I care so much? But just one more thing we can do on the random current affairs segment that we've just introduced, which is the Selena Gomez stuff, which has really depressed me. What, that she was trolled for looking bigger on the red carpet. Yeah.

Just so depressing. It was so depressing. She looked great. And also she had a little sister with her and it was so cute. Her little sister looks so happy to be there. And her little sister's like seven, I think, or nine. Actually, I'm not good at knowing ages of non-adults, so I don't know. She's young.

She's little. Yeah, yeah, she's small. And it was so sweet. And then everyone was fixating on her. And, like, you couldn't even see her. She was, like, completely covered by this dress. Like, you couldn't even see her. Well, the deal email around that headline of, like, worst dressed at whatever.

Oh, did they? Yeah. And she was included? And she was included in the worst dressed. Oh, piss off, honestly. Piss off. But also, she's got lupus. Yeah, yeah. And I think that might have been why she was covering her arms.

But she's put out a statement subsequently. like apologising for how she looks and it's like the fuck is this I know the fuck is this and all I see on TikTok because now I'm on TikTok because what's happening but it's like people comparing her

and Haley and again I'm late to that drama and I don't know how to go back and find out what's happened but reading between the lines it kind of like everybody's and I don't know if they are actually against each other or if society's just doing that thing where women just pit up

I think it is because they had that selfie of the two of them together like not that long ago yeah they were really Yeah, they went to the same event. They took a selfie. And I think they both uploaded it to their Instagram accounts. And everyone was like, oh my God, like, basically just pitting them against each other with

their looks and saying like, you know, Justin did the right thing. And like, honestly, it was brutal, so savage. Yeah, and people are doing that now. Yeah. Just basically being like, you know, he prefers models. He prefers thin girls. And that's why she was thin then. And she's not now.

And it's just like, oh my God. She's done it before where she's apologized on her, she did a TikTok story. story and she said oh like yeah I'm bigger I've been eating tacos and you know I had this that and I just kind of like listing food that she's had but she did she ended it with something positive she was like but I'm like who gives a fuck like I'm fine the way I am but I mean it would be I just feel like it would be impossible not to bow to that pressure and imagine seeing all these you know TikTok's about well yeah TikTok's about you and your ex hang on your ex boyfriends now wife. Yeah. And people saying how much

better looking she is than her. Like it's just just savage. People horrible, honestly. How old were they when they went out? Yeah, they were like kids. They were kids. And this is... She keeps getting, she gets tied back to him all the time. Yeah. This is the thing. I actually would like to know when she split up with him because it's still like... I think it was like 2015 or something. Justin Bieber's ex-Selina. Yeah. When did Justin Bieber? She's not like incredibly famous in her own, right?

When are Justin Bieber and Selena? 2018, they finally called it quits. That's five years ago. Mad. It's so annoying. I know. Let her live. We don't need prefixes.

We don't need prefixes. We're just people. It's fine. It's called her by her name. But then also on the wait thing, I said it would be the end of the current affairs segment or gossip. This is not current affairs. This is gossip.

But people are doing that with Molly May as well. I've spoken to you about this privately. She's been pissing me off so much. Obviously, my pregnancy body, who doesn't know I exist, we've been on this journey together, she doesn't know. Wee. The royal we. Very loose use of the term we, but okay.

She's like, who the fuck is that? Go ahead. But obviously, me and Moles are kind of pregnant at the same time. And I've seen on TikTok this like trend of people showing the pap photos of her during her pregnancy versus the photos of her on her Instagram and then obviously the Daily Mail and a lot of these tabloids have been running photos of her like screen grabs of her from her vlogs and stuff and basically catching her when she says phrases about how she's hungry

or how she's eaten a lot about how she's gained weight and all the headlines like there's a Daily Mail one yesterday being like that's a big mama about her and all of it is about how she's gained weight and it's honestly like I can't even put into words how much it's distressed me that we are watching this 23-year-old woman grow a human being out of nothing but a bit of sperm and an egg and like all of this fixation is on her weight

and how where she's storing it and like what she's eating and like how she's piled on the pounds and how her face has changed and like all of this stuff and it's so toxic and I think doing it at the same stage as I like obviously I'm putting on weight as well because that's what has to happen when your house becomes your body becomes an incubator. And yeah, it's just honestly really upset me.

And I'm so not surprised that this has originated from TikTok because it continues to like shock me just how brutal TikTok is. It's so horrible. Like I don't think we'd see this anymore on Instagram. I don't think. No. I don't think we'd see people openly like body shaming like that. And it's like trying to catch her out.

That's the kind of tone of the TikTok videos I've seen. It's like, look, She's showing you one thing, but this is how she actually looks. And can I just say as a pregnant person at this late stage, I am 100% showing you what I want to show you, because I don't want to show you the fact that I have like hemorrhoids and that I have cellulite all over my legs and I have stretch marks that I've never had before.

I am making my peace with this every single day, and I don't want to come out and be like, woohoo, this is me, let's all embrace me at the same time. And none should you have to? No, like you make your piece with it. And I actually think, like, Molly's making some really related. I've actually really enjoyed them. I've never watched a YouTube video, YouTuber's stuff before.

But I've started watching her videos actually to get some context because I was just like, what is this rhetoric surrounding her? And it's been so reassuring to watch it and be like, oh my God, look, her body's doing that too. Because she is showing me what I'm seeing in myself, but I don't have anything, you know, I don't have any, there's no blueprint for how this should be. And it's been really reassuring for me.

And I can't believe that women are seeing that as an opportunity to like share her down and like try and catch her out and oh she's just so filtered and she's just portraying one thing online it's like no she's portraying one thing on instagram but she is fully entitled to do that actually and absolutely yeah it's just it's been like i mean everyone does that pregnant or not everyone does that yeah like i talk about like self-acceptance and body confidence for a living and i still do that yeah of course you do that's the point you share what you're comfortable and confident sharing and to demand vulnerability from somebody

24 hours a day is absolutely so unfair and particularly to do it to somebody who is she's at a full term of a pregnancy and I mean like the other stuff I've seen about her like they've tried to show videos of like Tommy Fury cheating on it like there's a video of him literally talking to a girl in a bar nothing like it's nothing and it's like why would you do this to somebody

she's nine months pregnant yeah like she's been body shamed a lot though even when she wasn't pregnant like I remember perhaps took some pictures of her and I mean there's no point in me saying this because we already know she's just like a normal not even normal like what does that mean

but just a person in a bikini and it was so disgusting and the Daily Mail knew exactly what they were doing with the headline and I can't remember what the headline was but it was just pure clickbait and the comments were so disgusting talking about how like saggy she looked and it's just really

It's just rank. It's pissed me off so much and I'm really sick of seeing like you know if men want to do this like if men want to do this just shriveled little test I don't even care just go like just go be rank

that's fine but women doing this for the women young women I do think you know like how we look back at our Facebook photos our Facebook statuses of like 2008 and cringe the fuck out I really hope that the girls that are making these videos now

about Molly May one day in 10 years time maybe when they're pregnant or when their body's changed or when they're just different versions of the human being that they are now can be like, oh, well, I was a massive fucking belly. Yeah, that was really mean. That was really mean. Yeah. Yeah.

Like, it's just wild. The, like, space that we've created. I don't know. I just, it's really stressed me out. I know. There seems to be a lot of that stuff, like, people showing, like, Pat photos or real photos versus Instagram photos of celebrities. Yeah, they do. Chloe Kardashian a lot.

Yeah, they do. And I feel like I've been, I'm guilty of having done that in the past. I think, like, I shared, like, a real photo of Chloe Kardashian. I took it down shortly after, but it was the one, do you remember where, like, that one that was leaked? Where she sued her granny for sharing it, yeah, yeah. And at the time I was like, but, you know, she profits off of her body and she profits off it, you know, she says, and I think she still, she still does this, like, sells, like, booty

and skinny teas and things like this and says, like, this is how I. Like, you know, this is how I got my body and stuff. But actually, like, yeah, at the end of the day, it's, it's, I don't know. It's a complicated one. It's a really, like, fine line to tread. And I guess we'll work out in time, but, like, the working out, if people owe us relatability, but also what right we have to demand it. And I think, like, there is, like, there is definitely, and obviously, like, I'm exactly

same. Like, I would encourage and want to see people, like, and share on my social media, like, people's realness. because I abhor like how much filtering there is and face tune and stuff there is. But I think like something that we as a society have to learn. And I think you and I have both learned this is it's like it's never the individuals that were angry at. Like it's not.

It probably was at one point. But it's no longer the individuals that we're angry at. We have to be angry at the society that's pushing the individuals to do this because. But at the same time, this is where I find it complicated, but at the same time holding individuals responsible And I want to use this example But I don't want to say her name And I hate it when people do this

And don't say the person's name And you're like, I know who you're talking about But I just don't want to say her name Because I don't want to bring anything else to it But you know the celebrity that I called out last year Yes She had built her following off of being Body positive and body confident

And showing her body that wasn't You know perfect in society's eyes And you know she had put on weight and she was embracing that and like her following grew because of that and then she switched on a dime and then started selling the weight loss.

Yeah and that I think is really difficult then because it's like she has some kind of responsibility then because you're now selling you're now selling weight loss to these very vulnerable people because they followed you in the first place because someone who made them feel better about themselves and it was nice to see a celebrity

embracing their body which wasn't you know, societally beautiful. So that's tricky and that's when I think like people should be held responsible. It's very exploitative. Yeah.

But then there's like a certain male PT who did that as well which was like create an entire audience by speaking to a lot of women who felt insecure in the gym and you know felt like overwhelmed by fitness and then all of a sudden he turns around and is completely like change the tune

but you've kind of wrote people in under a false pretence. Yeah. But I do, I slightly think they're different things. Like, I think selling a product and a lifestyle and falsely advertising it, which is what a lot of the, like, which is what a lot of this is. But then falsely advertising yourself is different. It's more morally object.

But if you're, if you're falsely advertising with the me, with the point being, I want to exploit you. I want your money. and I need this is how I'm going to get it I'm going to deceive you to make money from you or I think that's different to I don't feel confident enough to show up in myself right now oh my god right now

so I'm going to manipulate this image yeah to do that like I feel like they're 100% and like I guess yeah where money comes in or a transaction is something different and I don't know I don't know that Molly may to go back to her I don't know that she filters I don't know what she does you know I've never

seen the like wavy I mean a lot of people were speculating at Christmas she'd accentuated her bump that she'd made her bump look bigger because it was the wrong shape and she was in like Daily Mail around this whole thing and like it was all over TikTok about how you know she'd made her bump a perfect circle because maybe she was

self-conscious or whatever and they were trying to catch her out with like the tiles in the background and it's just like I really doubt it but like you say that is different like she's not selling something off the back of it look perfectly round my bump is by this protractor and you two can have a perfectly roundup. She's a protractor.

Oh my God, throwback. I did not know what that was called anymore. A protractor? I can see it in my head, but I would not have known the word for that. And why did you have to have one in your pantscase? You used them so infrequently. I've probably used two protractors, like the same protractor twice, in my whole life. And they're so spiky.

Obviously, I used it a lot because it makes such good doodling circles. Yeah, that. I would love a protractor. Because you can set it a different... Yeah, different, but I would always slip. And when it's these circles fucked. Oh, oh, oh, no. And you had to put pencils in and if your pencil wasn't sharp enough,

I never put a pen in. Anyway, I've taken a turn. There you go. Yeah, I mean, I guess who are we to be like the moral? I think you take, do it on a case-by-case thing. Yeah. But as somebody who is, like, you know, best friends with this Molly Mae, pregnant Molly May.

Like that. Yeah, like, yeah, as her best friend, like, just feel like I have to defend the situation and be like I have never felt more vulnerable than I do at the moment and to see everyone going for her, you know, I'm just like, save your fucking energy. There are some, there's some, there's some bad shit going on right now. Yeah, and also, I mean, it shouldn't matter what age she is, but she's really young. She's 23. She's 23. Get off her tits, like.

She's 23. She's been in the public eye for a few years now. She's really famous. Yeah. She gets a lot of shit. Yeah, and people are like, oh, well, she said this once, you know, she's like the 24 hours of dinner day or whatever. And she's been problematic in the past. And it's like, that doesn't mean that you can ruin her fucking pregnancy. Like, it doesn't give you the right because you don't like one thing that she said at one point

to drag her for the rest of her life and make the rest of her existence of misery. Because you disagree with that one thing. That's what we've got to get over on the internet. It's so bad. Going back to Selena Gomez, did you watch her documentary? Yes, I did. You did? Great.

I watched it. I copied everything you do. Not everything. That would be so bad. I do not have a drunket and I don't want one. So I watched a documentary and I don't know if you remember there was a time when she was being interviewed by, I think it was like a German reporter. Yeah. And the reporter said to her like, let's talk, uh, the reporter said to her like, what's next for you? And Selena said something about like philanthropy. And the reporter was like, okay, that's it. Thank you for the interview. Selena was, like, really upset about it.

She was like, I just feel like I'm not being seen. Yeah. And then after that, Selena went to Africa? Yeah, she went to Kenya or something. Kenya, yeah, I think so. And she was, like, talking to some girls, and they were talking about, fuck, I'm butchering this whole thing. They're talking about something serious.

And then Selena suddenly said, do you believe in love, right? And I saw this girl do this TikTok where she went in depth on this, like, how hypocritical Selena was, because she just the way that she didn't feel seen when she was doing that interview she did the exact same thing to them and she's so out of touch and blah blah I was just like to me watching that documentary I was like this is actually a girl who is really struggling with her place to find her place in the world because she's been tied to this man for so long right she's got no sense of real identity yeah I said it a couple of weeks in the podcast I'm famous for so long yeah like

I I feel like that it wasn't actually a breakthrough for me like I feel like my imposter's comes from the fact that I've always been called a daughter and called young and called like, yeah, basically a girl. Yeah, and like a fraction, the tiniest, whilst I might be best friends of Molly May, I don't know the level of fame that's really go over her thoughts. But you're right, like she is trying to navigate an impossible world. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And these think pieces that just the level of scrutiny that they require,

and honestly, it's like people twisting themselves, into literal pretzels to come up with this hot take. And then, I don't know, maybe I'm guilty of it too with some body stuff, potentially probably hold my hands up, I'm probably guilty of it too, and it's probably because I'm so immersed in this world, and I look at everything analytically now, so possibly I'm guilty of it too, but it just made me feel really sad. I was like, God, she was so vulnerable in that documentary,

and yes, she didn't do everything perfectly, and you could see she wasn't perfect, and I don't think she's purporting to be, but, you know, I thought it was a really, like, raw and vulnerable, like, glimpse into her life. And I was like, do we really have to have a hot take on everything? I think sometimes people need to sit with themselves. I think that's yesterday, and I can't remember why. I probably saw something on TikTok. But it's just, I've watched a lot of TikTok.

But if you had had every moment of your life, oh, I'll tell you what it was. Someone, and it's actually the is it just means now. I did a whole thing. I think we're past, there just means at this point. This is a very odd episode. sorry um but yeah somebody had sent in something to my instagram saying is it just me that feels like um like i can't move on from every mistake that i've ever made like and i just play it in a loop inside my own head yeah and i was thinking about this it was like everybody has made

mistakes like there's just no getting away from that like everybody's done bad things and like sometimes when i close my eyes i remember like stupid stuff i've said or things that i regret or whatever and it's just like I hold on really tightly to that expression that no amount of guilt can change the past and no amount of anxiety can change the future but and I think the past is like the really important bit I know I know I heard that oh my god I literally just like live for it I just say it like to myself every day um I think it's really because we do talk about the anxiety you know that means that you suffer twice you know worrying about the future but we don't talk a lot about the past and the mistakes that we make and I think people forget like and we talk about it as as millennials

about celebrities if you have had a camera on you for your whole life there will be you will have fucked up but you can do a bad thing and not be a bad person and we're not giving any fucking grace for that

but to do it for young people everything is documented all of their mistakes are documented and everybody is at risk of somebody turning around at one point and saying well you did and no wonder we're also fucking anxious because it's like we're just waiting

to just be busted, like, and that's not just celebrities or influences. Like, that's going to be normal people now. It's like they're waiting for, like, an old Facebook, I don't know what the kids are on, but, like, you've always got that threat. This is, like, with the hot takes thing as well, isn't it? I hope I'm using hot takes in the right context. I don't know. I just keep hearing hot cakes, and I'm like, I love a hot cake right now.

Oh, yeah. Chocolate bomb. Oh, no, yeah. Chocolate bombie. Oh, my God. It's all right. I feel like I've seen so many things or like seen so many Instagram posts and stuff

that I'm like, oh my God, yes. And then I've seen someone do a think piece on it about how it's wrong. And then I'm like, oh God, yeah, I didn't see that. I didn't see that. I didn't like, yeah, I didn't see that. And I'm wrong and oh my God, they are so wrong what I read in the first place.

Yeah, no, I'm making sense, probably not. Yeah, no, it's 100%. And I'm getting to a point where I'm actually like, hang on, that doesn't need to be true, that like hot take or the reason that they're saying. Or it can be. But also, like, they're not, it doesn't mean that they're bad or what they're saying was redundant.

I can still... We do not allow each of the difference of opinions anymore. I've just seen to a podcast about this. It's a really old happy place podcast. But it's just like we don't let somebody have one... It's the idea that you can't do a good person can't do a bad thing. And it's like, don't be so stupid. But like, yeah, I'm terrified sometimes.

Like, when I see something I like, and I'll be scared to say I like it. because I'm just waiting for someone to be like, it's problematic. Like, I mean, and I mean, everything's fucking problematic. You know, that nice little outfit I was wearing the other day, and I got this DM and it was so intense. Like I was wearing a little lace, my free people lace top, which I fucking love, by the way.

And I love free people. And I'm sorry for that because I got a DM and it's like, oh, here we go. I used to really respect you, but now you're just some fast fashion bitch, just like the rest of them. This is owned by a clungomerate that doesn't pay that. I'm like, DM the fucking clungomerate. Don't DM me.

Like, come. Come on. Well, it's like we both talked about it being Blue Monday yesterday. How much shit did we get for that? Because I was like, I'm miserable, I'm grumpy. Oh, it's Blue Monday. Makes sense. Like, that was it.

That was it. And then we got so much shit for it. So much shit. And this is actually a really problematic thing to say because Blue Monday was made by any. Stop promoting it. And you're invalidating real people's mental health because you're saying that you, like, lucky for you. You only have bad mental health today. We have bad mental health every day.

And it's like, oh my God. Please. Chill. Chill. Yeah. Because we just, if you're. If we live our lives, just trying to catch everybody out or prove everybody wrong or bust everybody, bust everything open. It's like, oh my God, we are wasted.

You know what? I tell you what, I've had a thought. The Metropolitan Police clearly needs some reform and some help. I think they should burn it to the ground and start again. All of the people in my DMs who are looking this hard to find problems in my free people, a hall could go and get a job with the police because they have got good detective skills. Yes. They are tenacious.

I think everybody making hot take videos on Molly May's pregnancy body needs to go and apply for a job at the police service. Absolutely. And then that we can channel this energy somewhere really good. But on the difference of opinions thing, like I totally agree with you, but I don't think I'm very good at allowing other people to have different. Daisy, let's say something really controversial

and see how she takes it. I love heatless curls and I think everybody should do them. Okay, so for example, right, we know. I know, we know, science has proven that shaming doesn't work. Shaming someone doesn't work. So if you want someone to lose weight, saying to them, you're fat and that's disgusting, won't make them lose weight. It will end up in self-sabotaging behaviours and it's really destructive.

It's not a positive thing to do and it doesn't promote any healthy behaviours, right? And so the people that are of the opinion that people need to be fat shamed, otherwise we will continue with this obesity epidemic and I'm please I'm saying that in air quotes so when people say that to me I can't let like I feel like I know that that's not right yeah and you can't let them think that

you can't let them think that you have to correct them yeah I get a lot of DMs about this actually because people like there are things that will come up in my life which and I can't think of any examples but it's like actually fuck it Harry and Megan which is clearly something that is affecting a lot of areas of my life. You know, there's a conversation that I have in a lot of places.

We can joke about it. It's been a few days. But I think people, on the back of that, people say me a lot to EMS and they're like, how? Like, how can you let someone you love have a different opinion to you? Yeah. And I think something that we do not prioritize and we have not been taught to prioritize. And actually, I think young people for the good of like their sanity going forward have to prioritize is their own peace. and it's like we live in a space now where it's not fucking peaceful

nothing about it is peaceful and a hot take in and of itself it's not a peaceful thing to have and we shouldn't have to spend our whole lives fighting for what we believe in like in the olden days like I don't know if you were in a you were I don't know I think about

what I parents protested and they're like anti-Vietnam war they don't have to do that the whole time they don't have to sit at home the whole time talking to everyone about how bad, like, Vietnam situation is. They only had to do that when they went to Washington and, like, walked up and down with other people who agreed. But we have to do this the whole time. And it's just like, no, no, no, no, no, we have to do, do, do, blah, blah.

And it's just like, sometimes it's okay to just let other people be wrong about you, about that, about this, because it's not your responsibility to change everybody's minds, and you can't. And also, like, from a self-preservation standpoint, you don't want it every day have to be like, let government, because it's just getting into a boxing ring every day

and it's just tiring and I think we don't allow each other to prior like to just choose peace like you know I've been told so much over the last year but you have to do something you have to take a stand you have to educate this person you have to tell somebody this no you don't no I don't

I have got a massive human inside me I am busy I've got my own shit to do I've got my job I've got whatever even if you weren't pregnant it's not it's not your business 100% 100% but you know we as moral um and i don't i don't even like i say this with a lot of love to my fellow millennials but we are like incredibly morally superior and we just believe that

we're right about everything and we may well be but that's okay it's enough that we know that i don't think we have to go improve and i'm growing with this because i've i've spent my whole life fighting with everybody online and everybody in my life and everybody about everything yeah and now I'm just like, oh, well, you're wrong. I agree with you, 100%. I guess where it gets sticky for me then is when you know that the pain that that opinion is going to cause. Yeah. I think that comes with education.

And I'm taking that fat shaming example. Again, like, we see how much, we see how painful that is. Yeah. How painful fat phobia is and body shaming is. To mind. And it's so hard to me then to be like, oh, okay, well, that's your opinion. Cool. I think something that I feel like is a more effective, okay, if you accept, my mum always says this about life, you can't help everybody, so you either help somebody or you help nobody.

It's so true. So true. And I think if you're looking at your responsibility in terms of your job, which is, you know, like to defend the rights of people who have been, and like, you know, in this specific instance who have been shamed for their body, it's more effective to my mind. and this is what I feel like is a better use of my Instagram now rather than trying to change the minds of people who do not want their fucking minds changed if people are coming into my DMs

to start a fight with me they haven't come there with open ears and like they're ready for a conversation they're coming there because I do not give a shit why they've come what is a much more useful like allocation of my energy is to try and educate the people that are there

to protect themselves from other people's opinions and learn that they don't have to take that on, that they're strong enough without this criticism that there's nothing wrong with them just because somebody thinks there is, do you know what I mean? That feels like a more empowering use of my energy. And maybe help gently sway people

who aren't sure of their opinions on this yet. Yeah. Yeah. Who aren't coming in, all guns blazing, wanting an argument, but who are just kind of unsure of where they stand on this and to give them information, yeah, you're right. Because that's where we get distracted, I think,

is like with the big fights and the big conversations and the big takes and the big this and it's just like actually what we should all be trying to do is just be peaceful and allow like protect I feel like with my followers I just want to protect people now from from wasting and hurting them wasting their energy and hurting themselves and tying themselves getting themselves really stressed trying to fight something when actually what they what's a better use of their time

is to protect themselves right and work out when somebody says it's offensive or hurt for or cruel thing to them work out how they want to take it like they don't have to take it on board they don't have to take it personally they don't have to be really hurt by this you're right because nine times

maybe ten times out of ten it's futile anyway the person is the no they've not got ears just a mouth yeah exactly and if you're like at such polar opposite I don't know I just don't think anything like we're not lawyers no debate you know nothing I mean I've had some of the most like

cataclysmic debates with people in my life and nothing obviously if you've got to the point of it being like a really painful discussion I shared that thing on my story the other day and it was just like how do lawyers argue without crying and it's like some of the things that I've wanted

to debate I want to cry about or I do cry about and I think if I've got to this level and the person that I'm arguing with is still there this isn't going to work we're not going to fix this do you know I had an incident at Christmas that I didn't want to talk about in case the person who I had this

this like disagreement with will never listen to the podcast but just in case but fuck it it's been a while now anyway I'm going to tell it I this isn't someone in my family more like a friend of a friend that joined us around Christmas time and I think he is very anti-woke very right-wing dislikes the snowflake generation and sees what I do on my Instagram so I think he arrived armed and ready to to go to like you know to battle with me i went in totally oblivious um and he's he he he brought up the conversation of harry and megan and i wanted christmas classic christmas classic yeah what else um and i wanted absolutely no part in this and i later found out that he enjoys debates like debates

of his thing debates are not my thing i hate people who don't like them debates of my thing I know. I dislike them intensely. Like I'm not the kind of person to have a debate. I'm emotional and I get, I'm highly sensitive. It's not for me. And I never wanted at this festive occasion to have a debate, never thought I was going into. I never realized I was going into it. And I shut down straight away the conversation around Harry and Megan because I could just see where it was going. And he continued to prod and poke. And I eventually snapped. because actually what he said was really despicable and I couldn't to be honest I was just holding my tongue and I kept saying let's agree to disagree let's just cheers and get on with Christmas like let's not do this

and eventually he just said something so bad that I just snapped and it was awful it was so horrible I left and afterwards like immediately after I left I was like why have I left because afterwards he was saying, you know, I won the debate.

And I was like, I never wanted a debate. And I can't even remember how I came to start talking about this. I can't remember what we were saying beforehand. I had a point, but it's gone now. Well, he's just being, like, pushed into, I think that's the thing. He was saying things that he knew. He knew, he was saying things that were really inflammatory. Yeah.

He must have said about seven things that I was just like, and my sisters were all, to be fair, my sisters all spoke up as well, like shouted up as well, when he said this because it was just like that's really disgusting but he was aiming it all at me because he knew that I was like a snowflake I think my favorite thing in those contexts and people do that to be a lot like people love it people do it with everything and I've risen to it so many times and also like I've got a bit of a quick like bite

and I know but I also know some of them are fucking like zingers so I'm like hey nailed it but I've tried to stop doing that in recent whatever because I used to clap back a lot at stuff but I think now I'm just like why do you you want to and this has been the most um useful word in my arsenal like why are you doing this why do you need to why do we need to have this conversation now why because i don't even like the agree to disagree i hate people saying i'm just being devil's advocate because he's the devil honey he doesn't need one and like i all of this i can be so frustrating but i think like if i was

actually giving advice to anybody who has to have these conversations it's just like just say why do you why are you doing that are you okay like why does this have to be be a conversation now. Like, where do you think this is going to go? And if you take it there, it's kind of embarrassing for them, because it's like, it's very clear then that they, they want, and it'd be like, you, you can, you just say to them, like, do you, do you need me to tell you that I think you're right? Like, do you want everyone around this table to agree with you? Like, just tell me what the purpose of this is and we'll get to it a bit quicker, but this isn't enjoyable for anybody. And I think it really levels people and it really embarrasses them.

I wish I kept my head, but I just, you know, and you just feel like I'm being attacked here. I've done it a million times. I've stormed out. I have cried. And when I did snap, someone else was like, oh, like, calm down, calm down. Then I was like, I'm out. I am just out of here. But afterwards, I was like, I wish I kept my head.

But it's hard. It's too hot, especially for me. Like, I'm too sensitive for that. I'm too sensitive. The world that we've created, the Piers Morgan, Good Morning Britain, shouting at people who disagree with this. The hot take, all of it. It's creating this massive divide that's really mean.

And we just lose all the humanity in it. and it's really annoying. I've been asked to go on debates on Good Morning Britain and stuff like that. And I've always just said, no, I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. Not because I don't believe in what I'm saying or I don't believe in my stance. I fully, fully believe in it, but I just don't want to subject myself to that. Why is it going to be shouted at?

Exactly. To be honest, I, in recent, I'm asked to go on a lot as well. And as I get older, I'm just like, I think I might at one point say yes, because I've got to a point now of such, like, peace. Yeah. And I have found this to be a very tried and tested way of actually really making the person you're talking to look like a fucking idiot. And that's just keeping really calm because they, these people who think we're woke and hysterical and overdramatic and all of this, if you can just sit there and just be like, okay. And inside you're like, I fucking hate you.

And I just really hope you just like stub your toe on every single object that you come into contact with until the day that you die. I hope you break both your arms. but um yeah you'd be much better at me than doing that but i'm too emotional i genuinely feel like i've practiced this like i've just like i've just like i this is something that i've this is why i want to i don't know this is why i feel like this is what i want to be doing with my instagram more it's like helping people have these conversations and choosing peace and you can still do the right thing and advocate for the right thing and really be sure of your beliefs but you just you don't need to be shouted up by some fucking bigot no like and you don't need them to pull you

down you can't argue with stupid that's one thing i know no like you just can't no it's just sad pointless no and punching down is so hard yeah physically so we're gonna stand tall yes well let morons be morons we didn't do a single is it just me we didn't do one oh my god and it's really long as well oh well i enjoyed it though me too yeah it was good to chat yeah good little chin wag can't see in ages i know and i've watched so much tics look what it inspires I know. I love this. Oh, so it's a little hiccup. Well, okay, well, I hope you enjoyed.

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