Should I Delete That? - Is It Just Me: I'm going home to Take That

Episode Date: September 6, 2023

On this week's IIJM, the girls chat boybands, reverse parking and Taylor Swift...Follow us on Instagram @shouldideletethatEmail us at shouldideletethatpod@gmail.comEdited by Daisy GrantMusic by Alex A...ndrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome back, should I delete that on the next slide. And I'm M Clarkson. You sound like an air. Don't I? I was going for newsreader. You time like a newsreader. Thank you. Hello, and welcome back to you should relate that?
Starting point is 00:00:20 Let's spend the whole episode speaking that we're breaking news. No, that is Stuart, isn't it? I don't know, but I like this. Drama. Unfolding behind me. I have a great story to share with you today. Obsessed. Let's hear it.
Starting point is 00:00:34 I can't do the whole thing in that. I'll run out of everything. I've got nothing left. I've got an embarrassing story to share. Okay. And it's one that I love. Because I just relate to it so much like this girl as me. Hi, girls.
Starting point is 00:00:50 I've been listening to the pod from the start. I'm actually the girl that got wine drunk and followed the lady into the toilet cubicle. These things follow me. And I absolutely love the direction the podcast has gone in. Oh, thank God. There's no turning back now. Come too far. We can't too far.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Oh, no, I was going for like the snowman run. I was like, the snowman run. It's like, you come so far. What's that song? Take that. You bridge so high. Is that take that? Why do I think it's a snowman song?
Starting point is 00:01:20 Night in the eye. Love that song. You know what? That was the. What was it? Lights up at the end of a nightclub. song. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:29 I spent the whole journey here listening to, I was so deep in it, you know when you go to an artist on Spotify and you just go to like the this is and it's like all of their songs. I do that with the sugar babes this morning. No regrets. That is a good shout. I'm listening to an acoustic version of push the button. Who knew?
Starting point is 00:01:44 Oh, okay. I wonder whose idea that was. But anyway, listen to it. They've probably had like one download in the last 10 years and they're like, who listened to that? You're going to get an email from Spotify. They'd like to thank their biggest fan. Yeah, it'll be my Spotify rat.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Anyway, I'm going to go home to take that. That's that. To take that. To take that. Oh yeah, sorry. I'm going home. I was like, to take what? Yeah. To take what where?
Starting point is 00:02:10 Bill? I love Gary Barlow. I love this audio book. I do. Oh, I haven't. What is it? Oh, it's amazing. It came out a few years ago.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Oh. Oh. Fiction? No, no, no. No. He's written in an autobiography and he talks about his bad body image and his eating disorders. Oh. And, yeah, and like, how crazy it was being in a band.
Starting point is 00:02:28 and, like, he binged, and I think he was bulimic for a bit. Oh. And, like, oh, it was just, and he was amazing. And he tells this whole story about, like, coming up and stuff with Robbie. And I just fucking loved it. Oh, my God. I want to listen. I went so deep into my take, my take that hole after that.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Oh. Every time I played Robbie Williams during, because obviously they've made up now, every time I played Robbie Williams when I was pregnant, oh, I went crazy. So she's a take that early. I love them. I love Rob Williams. What's not to love. I do love Rob Williams.
Starting point is 00:02:56 He also spoke about his body image recently Did you see it? Yeah, I saw that. It was really a really sad It was really sad About getting older as well Yeah And like he's kicking himself
Starting point is 00:03:06 For not being thin Thin when he was younger It's just mad Really sad, yeah It's crazy Like we talk about the girl band We talk about girls But we just don't talk about
Starting point is 00:03:15 Boys enough I know And like of course Boy Brown pressure Was like so much Like of course it was Because I needed to have six backs Yeah and they had to be like
Starting point is 00:03:23 like wife feet I hate the expression what can we call them if not wife tauts but tank tops vest tops yeah like always in string vests and like tight things and yeah look I mean imagine
Starting point is 00:03:36 like if one of them had like had a paunch like they'd have been given a hard time such a hard time oh my gosh you were trying to speak to an ex-boyboy band member I would love that I mean let's shoot for the fucking stars Gary
Starting point is 00:03:48 Gary can you imagine if Gary came on I love him so much I would not play it cool. My mum would be here as well. Yeah, I mean, Nora's like... And my cousin, obsessed, and my auntie. The whole white family. Oh, God, I mean...
Starting point is 00:04:03 I never really fancied him that much. Oh, I don't fancy him. I just... Gary, if you're listening, I really fancy. I didn't mean that. I don't know what you want to hear, but that's what we're saying, okay? You're well not. He just seems like such a lovely human being.
Starting point is 00:04:17 He does seem really nice. When I listen to his book, he's got such a comforting voice. Yeah. Lovely, like, warm... warm voice and he had a rough time in between take that and then the comeback didn't he yeah i think so as well yeah god maybe i should re-listen to it maybe that's the kind of book you read twice never run a book twice but you've got to start somewhere gary you're the one gary we've gone massively off course here sorry sorry you should be um they love the how did we even get there
Starting point is 00:04:44 she said i love the direction it's gone in i don't understand how did we get there if you come so far I was singing Lincoln Park. I tried so hard and got so far. I don't know anything about Lincoln Park. I tell you what I think about when I think of Lincoln Park. Oh, yeah. Do you have watched Gossip Girl? No, I never watched that.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Because I think he was called Lincoln Hawks. Rufus's band. God, they wrote a... Oh, I love Lincoln Park. No, what was that song? They had the song, In Gossip Girl. Every time you walk away, you walk and where you take a piece of me with you. How annoyed would you be if you wrote...
Starting point is 00:05:24 Sounds awful. No, no, it's not. And how annoyed would you be if you wrote... Obviously it sounds awful because I've sung it. But imagine how annoyed would you'd be if you wrote a really great song for a TV show and no band ever released it because it was just for the TV show?
Starting point is 00:05:36 Like, I think that for like... I've just watched Daisy Jones in The Six. It's got a whole soundtrack of songs that were written as if the band had written them. But it's like, it was someone's job to write... But they can always release them after. No, I know, but then they'll always...
Starting point is 00:05:50 You know, they're like... But also, it's quite a lot of pressure. If you're talking about a great rock band, then you've got to write songs that a great rock band would have written. And if you're doing that, then wouldn't you have just given them to a great rock band?
Starting point is 00:06:00 We need to get back to email, but I also have a question for you that I want to circle back to. Okay. But we need to get back to email, but I do have something that I want to talk about. Let's remind me. So don't forget.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Don't you forget and don't I forget. The notes in my head, it's very clear in my head. You all heard that. It will be gone by the time we get that. Remind me by TS. Okay. At the age of 29,
Starting point is 00:06:22 I finally passed my driving test last month. Congratulations. Congratulations. Love that. That's really tough. Today I went to meet my mum for coffee and confidently tutled off in my little Corsa. I got there to find the tightest space
Starting point is 00:06:35 but thought, no, no, you've got this girl. I did not get this. I swerved into the space with the immediate realisation that I was just way too close to the car on my right. I went to reverse and try and correct my mistake and two men on their smoke break frantically gestured for me to stop
Starting point is 00:06:50 and turn my engine off. They said, move, we're going to find the owner of this car and get them to move it so you don't hit it. Fabulous. I then sat there like a lemon, unable to do anything while passes by gorped at my situation. How did she get that close? How did she get that? Did she ask that? Or are you asking that? No, no, she, the passes by were asking that. How did she get that close? Oh my God, what a predicament. Yes, thank you. By the time the man arrived to move his car quite easily, may I add, I feel like I definitely could have tried myself. I had 12 people, 12 people stood at the
Starting point is 00:07:21 bonnet of my car watching me just sitting there melting into my seat and able to move my honest thought at the time was i need to send this in i'll get it you guys help me in my darkest times love you all lucy did you go in nose first because that's bullsy as hell anyone that like alex sometimes does it boy alex obviously not you but forward parks and i'm like the fuck kind of confidence is that i reverse into every parking space why is that more confident because I can't work out when I'm driving forwards when I'm front right
Starting point is 00:07:54 I'm in the car in the right on the right if I'm pulling in on the left and parking on the left I can't gauge how far away my front left bonnet and tyres are do you know what I mean? Yeah
Starting point is 00:08:08 like that I find very hard so I can't calculate if I'd just like pull in I wouldn't be able to like pull in and like straighten up and make it perfect I have to reverse in because that's where I'm coming comfortable because I've got my wing mirrors
Starting point is 00:08:19 then so I can see what to do. If you're going in forward, you're basically going in blind you just have to know exactly how wide your car is. So I've never understood this. I go in front first because in my head and Dave the other day was like, what's you doing? Why are you going in like that? But if you can get in backwards
Starting point is 00:08:35 reversing, then you can get in forwards. But it's so much easier going in backwards. I don't know why because you've got mirrors. So you go beyond the space. You can't see anything, really. Okay, but if you go forwards, you've got drive to, like you've got to drive to exactly the right bit
Starting point is 00:08:51 then pull it like so then like, okay, okay, let's say we're parking on the left turn left, pull in and then try and straighten up but you've still got to get the whole of the back of the car in whereas if you're at the front and you just reverse you can do it in one
Starting point is 00:09:06 maybe you can do it the other way in one. I just think it's just easier. There's also a reason that they teach us how to do it backwards. Yeah, I really want to know why. Also when I say this was so much love, we are recording this. while still on your close friend's story is a photo of your car
Starting point is 00:09:21 with the caption, Did I Do Good? And it's about three feet away from the car. So I really feel like you're not the best advert for parking forwards. I did the most shocking park of my life. I just replied to it being like, you did not do good. I did not do a good park. It was really bad.
Starting point is 00:09:42 I know, yeah. Just going backwards. Okay. We don't quite know why, but it's better. And easier. I do know, I'm fairly confident it's because of the mirrors. I have an answer. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:09:53 I typed it to Google, why is it easier to park in reverse? This is the first answer that comes up. It is due to the fact that a car pivots around the wheels that don't steer. Excuse me? The back ones don't steer. Seeing that a car's front wheels turn, that means it can execute a tighter turning radius in reverse, hence easier maneuverability. I don't understand. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Does it? Yes. I'm glad it does feel. So just park backwards. That's the main takeaway. But that is the takeaway, yeah. Don't go nose in. No. I just think it's a special breed of confidence that allows people to park nose forwards. I have a question.
Starting point is 00:10:28 T.S. This is the T.S. Question. This is the T.S. Question. Okay. It's a genuine, sincere question, right? Genuinely, right, I have never followed Taylor Swift, and I've never followed her music. Just because it's not my kind of music, right? But I need to know why the hype around, why, I've never seen such hype around.
Starting point is 00:10:47 anyone and anything and like her concert the era's tour like I've never seen anything like it people so desperate to get tickets like I have some theories what oh it's just a theories just theories is not is it not something like tangible like why the I just I'd like to know I mean I wish I could tell you why I can't no okay I have some theories yeah I'm like you I'm not huge but my problem with Taylor Swift is not my problem with her but my problem with Taylor Swift music I unfortunately grew up at that time like a lot of us did where it wasn't cool to like her right and that's literally the start and finish of why I didn't like her because I wanted to be cool okay it's fucking tragic okay because I tried too hard to be cool so I didn't let myself
Starting point is 00:11:34 like Taylor Swift even though love story was undeniably a fucking banger okay I digress I think and again just theories because I'm not part of the hype either But I do think she gave permission. And if any Swifties are listening, I'm happy to be corrected. But I think a few things. Like, first of all, she gave permission to a lot of women or girls. Yeah. To be very, like, unapologetic in their, like, love for love
Starting point is 00:12:07 and, like, real want of, like, a fairy tale, happy ending. Do you know what I mean? Like, it's very... Right. Not whimsical, but at the beginning, it was... It was very, like, country music, but it was very genuine and raw and, like, I want to be loved. I want love stories. Like, I want, like, I mean, you belong with me.
Starting point is 00:12:26 It was a bit, I think she was, it wasn't great because it was like, she wears short skirts, I wear a t-shirts, a bit of a bit of a pickney energy. Okay. But generally speaking, it was like, I felt like she kind of gave a lot of permission to how a lot of young girls feel. Okay. And I think famously throughout history, the things that young girls like have been laughed at. And I think Taylor Swift is a really good example of somebody that a lot of people were very passionate about. Yeah. That she then got ridiculed.
Starting point is 00:12:57 And I think those people now feel very vindicated to see the amazing journey that she's been on. And again, I'm putting, because I don't know, but I do feel like people that have been with her through the beginning. Because she has been through a lot. And I think what Kanye did to her at the VMAs, was huge. Yeah, it was so bad. So bad. So bad.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Now I'm older, I'm like, she was 19. Horrendous. Horrendous. Yeah. And I think like the more bad stuff that's happened to her, the more people that have ended up in her corner. Do you know what I mean? Okay. And I also think like people use her as an example a lot of like the media's gaslighting.
Starting point is 00:13:35 And like, you know, Jamila Jamil always excites her as like a really good example of like none of us liked her for no real reason other than that the press always painted her as something. Okay. And she always sung about, like, you know, she had lots of boyfriends, basically. You know, she always sung, she was always connected to a lot of, like, high-profile men. And I think people always gave her really hard time. The press gave her really hard time for that. And I think she's always stayed pretty out of drama and kept her nose clean and just been a good person.
Starting point is 00:14:07 And I just think every time something bad has happened to her in the press, the Swifties have felt more and more defensive of her. That's nice. That's kind of how I feel. Now I'm like, looking at it. And now she's like in her 30s. And I just think people have been there since the beginning. Yeah. She's been to her a lot.
Starting point is 00:14:22 She's had all of her different eras. And the snake era. Was it redemption? Yes, I do remember that. It was after the Kim Kardashian thing, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah. And she's actually made some fucking great music.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Like the man, the song The Man, is so good. It's so good. And she writes all of her music, doesn't she? Yeah. and like all of it herself. Yeah, yeah. And it sounds like she's a really nice person as well. Yeah. And she put herself, she politicised herself, which a lot of female artists.
Starting point is 00:14:53 She's one of the first, not one of the first ever to do it, but in this sort of current social media climate. And I think she was advised a lot, I watched a documentary. I think she was advised kind of not to do it. And then she went very hard like Team Hillary. I think she played at one of Hillary's rallies. Okay. So I don't know. I just feel like she's kind of always been on the side of.
Starting point is 00:15:12 good, but I think every bad thing that's happened to her, her people have felt more defensive of her somehow. So it's not necessarily to do with her music? I think people also love her music. Yeah, okay. And yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, it's not really massively, but I missed big chunks of it. For some reason, I thought you were a Swifty. I thought you're like, not a Swifty Swifty Swifty. There's something about me that does scream that. I do get that. I thought you just really, I thought you really liked her. I do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I've got no, No, but I just thought you were a fan Not, not a fan
Starting point is 00:15:46 No, no, I'm not a fan Especially because I saw a thing that she's like She gave bonuses to everyone on the tour Like not just like the high up people Like absolutely everyone who was on the tour And she gave them all handwritten letters I love that I know, she just seems like a really good person
Starting point is 00:16:01 She's got her little cats Yeah Yeah, she has had a hard time in the press Stan I don't love her music But that's just because I just don't like her music But some of it's But this is the interesting thing about her music
Starting point is 00:16:12 It's just so much of it. So some of it's like, there's a lot of country stuff, which isn't really for me. But then there's some more like... Poppy, doppy. Yeah. I don't know why I said doppie. No, I don't know either, but I went with it. Oh, yeah, there's a new lyric and it said...
Starting point is 00:16:23 Well, not new. It came out last year, but it says... The only lyric I'm confused by it, and she says, everybody is a sexy baby and I'm a monster on the hill. And I sing it a lot, but I'm like, what is that? I like it. Yeah. I like it.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Sometimes I feel like everybody is a sexy baby and I'm a monster on a hill. I like that. I just don't get it. But I don't know who to ask I've never known who to ask What I'm gathering is that like she's unapologetically uncool
Starting point is 00:16:49 I don't think you can say she's uncool Sorry I thought that's what you said Because she's like not typically cool And she's leaned into that And like showed her the girls It's okay not to be typically cool Maybe
Starting point is 00:17:00 I don't know if she's I don't know what's cool anymore Al I'm old No I don't I think she's very cool now I definitely remember When Love Story came out And like that the first
Starting point is 00:17:09 Country album oh yeah um Romeo take me someplace we can be alone I love you and that's all I really yeah that's that's last story my song for a minute my head for ever now
Starting point is 00:17:21 did you not see the amount of people getting engaged at her concerts on TikTok no but oh my god so many people keep getting engaged and then it gets and then she like she sings the lyrics like got down on one knee and said marry me Juliet and the amount of guys at the concert
Starting point is 00:17:34 your TikTok algorithm will have heard me and not show you one later I'm fucking out but yeah I see them all the time Oh, that was the song that everyone did the skateboard thing too. Yeah, I remember that, I remember. Yeah, so I think when those songs came out at the beginning and you belong with me and like, there were a couple of others.
Starting point is 00:17:52 When they came out, I remember, this is, okay, I have an admission. And I'm not proud of this, but I remember finding it on my brother's iPod when he was 13 and teasing him for it. And I went, you like Taylor Swift. Oh, you cruel woman. I know, I know. And he actually said the other day, age 207, he's like, she's got some great music. I was like, she does.
Starting point is 00:18:09 And I apologise. And it's all done herself. That is really cool. Yeah. Okay. So I don't know. I hope that I think her army of like Swift needs, I think they've really been through it with her.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Yeah. They stuck up against Kanye. I love that. Against the Kardashians. They've been on her side. Also, that music video that he did. Get,
Starting point is 00:18:25 with her body, like her naked body in bed. What is it called? Yeah. I made that bitch famous. Yeah. It's cool famous that song. It's called famous.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Yeah. And it's him in bed with all the people. And it's like Donald Trump. and Kate and Jenner. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It wasn't actually her, was it in the video? No, no, no, it was just models. It was naked model, like, some wax works.
Starting point is 00:18:46 And, like, leave her alone. I do just think Disney were alone. I don't know. She was literally 19. I feel like for, like, you should want to leave that alone as well, you know? I wouldn't try and, like, continue that. No. It's icky.
Starting point is 00:19:01 It's really icky. Yeah, bad vibes. Yeah, I just feel like everybody that's in her corner is just, they've got reason to be there and they're just fighting for her. Love that. I love that. I mean, who did I see the other day? I think I saw a meme,
Starting point is 00:19:13 and it was like, at this point, Barbie and Taylor Swift are, like, single-handedly holding up the economy. Literally. Literally. Barbie stuff has calmed down now, thank God. I was getting, like,
Starting point is 00:19:23 fever pitch. Like, I can't take any more Barbie. It's just everywhere. And, like, I'm so easily influenced. I started to, like, everything was pink, you know? Yeah, your nails are pink. My nails are still pink.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Was that on purpose? It was on purpose. But, no, it. It was, I was influenced. Yeah, you are easily influenced. Oh, very, yeah, very, very. Marketer's dream. Yeah, I am too.
Starting point is 00:19:47 I bought one of those sequin mushrooms the other day, like a disco bowl mushroom. You need to watch. It's not like it was in the pictures. You need to watch Barbie. Do you want to take my baby? And I'll go. Sure.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Alex keeps saying to me, it's like, I'll just take her. You just have to go to cinema by yourself. And I'm like, but I've got so many other things to do. I know. And he's like, you need to prioritize yourself. I'm like, I'll go for a run. Yeah, I wouldn't say that that. is like number one prioritised.
Starting point is 00:20:12 In which case, then do it. I just don't have the time. And I hate people that say they don't have the time because there's always time. But cinema is quite a specific thing to have the time for because you have to be able to go. Yeah, sit in the dark room, not be on your phone. So you're uncontactable.
Starting point is 00:20:27 So it's two hours off work. Yeah. My boobs will be hemorrhaging milk. And yeah. And I'm by myself. And I'm like, how many of my friendships am I like hanging on by a three? red because I'm abandoning them to rear a human and I'm just going to be like okay so I've got
Starting point is 00:20:44 this free time all of a sudden and I'm just going to sit by myself for two hours I mean I would come with you but I don't think I can watch it again I know you didn't like it and I actually don't want to talk to you about that but I have heard that second time's better that's like sex yeah I get well I yeah I mean lucky um yeah lucky people watching it twice tell me just give me a an opposite. I mean, I feel like I can understand the general premise. I've listened to the soundtrack a lot. A hundred percent. And seen all the meat. Like, you've definitely... I've basically been there. You've seen it in America Ferreira's monologue, so you've seen
Starting point is 00:21:18 it all. I haven't seen that. Are you not seen it? Oh my God, it's been everywhere. I've seen it. People have quoted it everywhere. No, I have, but just to see us out, I have an incredibly niche. Love it. Oh, love it. And I feel like it's a bit of you. Oh, yeah. Hi, gang. She's also asked me kept anonymous, which I love when you hear what it is that she's got annoyed about because I really feel like you didn't need. who's been on, I'm spoken. Sadly, no time for pleasantries because I'm currently at work and I am fuming. This may be very petty, is it just me? But I feel like I can't be the only one.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Yeah, you're speaking out of language. He gets irrationally angry at people looking things up when I've just said, I'm looking it up. Some examples, when you're talking about a TV show or a celebrity and say something like, I'll just look up how that was rated or, oh, I'm going to Google how old he is. And they get their phone out to look it up at the same time. We were making plans and say, I'll just have a look at the forecast, and they go to get the forecast up too. The most recent example was just now during a work meeting when we were discussing timings for something and I said, I'll look up the turnaround for a process. As I'm copying the guidance to paste it into the chat, my colleague read it out, having looked it up when I said I would. I know in reality there is no negative impact on me and it's not people being intentionally dismissive,
Starting point is 00:22:29 but it just feels so frustrating to me and I can never say anything because it's petty as fuck other than to my partner when he does it because I feel like I can be my pettiest self with him. God, this girl is you. I also just want to give a quick disclaimer that I'm not weirdly slow at Googling things and I don't have a track record of giving incorrect information. Please tell me I'm not the only one that finds this infuriating.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Do you get her? No. I have something to confess. Go on. I think I'm the person that annoys her. Not her person. I think I do that. I want the information too.
Starting point is 00:23:00 I get jealous. Like if Alex is like, I'm going to Google it. I Google it too. If it's like how tall was he? I'm like, and Katia's googling something, she's like, I'll Google it too. I like knowing me, I don't know why. Do you want the answer in your own hands? I think so. Okay, I get that. No, but clearly it's not a good thing because this poor anonymous sender, many of his name, and I get it. And I actually, I really don't like it about myself when I do it, because I'm like, just be patient, just be patient. I'll get the information.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Also, it doesn't matter that much. Like, how tall, like how many times in my life have I Googled, how tall is Tom Hardy? It doesn't fucking matter. But I Google it all the time. He's 5' at 7. I finally remembered. Is he? Yes. No. Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:43 That's Tom Cruise height. I know. That's why we call Bisto Tom Hardy. Because he's like short and stucky. Oh my God, I didn't know that. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:52 What I don't love is when, I mean, they have every right to do it because I'm shit. But when I say something, like a fact, some people are like, oh my God, really? Go to Google it. Wow. And then they'll be like, oh, yeah. I know people do that for me too, but that's fair enough. Like, unlike this girl, we don't have good track records. Like, we have bad track record.
Starting point is 00:24:12 I get what she's saying. I get that that's annoying. And I definitely do it too. So I'm just going to apologise. Like, I'm going to... Sorry, anonymous girl. I'm going to endeavour to be more patient. But then I get annoyed because if I say to Alex, what's the weather forecast?
Starting point is 00:24:23 And he'll check it and he'll go, like, high's the 16 degrees. I'm like, and what the cloud's saying? What's the wind speed? Yeah, I'm with you. What have we got at two, three, four, five. I don't want to know the height. I want to know the journey. But also, if someone's good.
Starting point is 00:24:36 How tall is Tom Hardy? It's going to come up in metres. I don't know metres, so I always have to do a conversion and I want to know how tall someone is. So I have to go 1.8. I do now know that 1.7 metres. No, I think he is 1.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Maybe he's 1.8 metres because I always have to do the conversion because I literally Google how to... I want to know how many times I've Googled how tall is Tom Hardy. Tell me who's surprisingly short. Who? Rish Sunak.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Is it? Al, have you not seen all the photos? No. Oh my God. So his team, his PR team, perspective. Okay, his PR team clearly are aware that his height is something maybe that he's insecure about. Because all the photos of him, right, he's not a very tall man. No.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Like, which is weird because in my imagination, he's quite a tall man. He's really not. The amount of press photos of him where they put him on the top stuff. Or like, hang on, it's like, hang on, look, they very often do this, but they'll put him at like the top step or like right at the front of an image so that he looks. But he's, I know, he's not too. I know, but actually I find that like the, I get, I find that really interesting
Starting point is 00:25:57 about like how how we equate height in men with like, power. Yeah. Because when I imagine him, because I know that he's a powerful man now, whether or not whatever I think of him is a politician, he is arguably the most powerful man here. Yeah. So I imagine him to be a tall man. Same.
Starting point is 00:26:19 And then when I see him, then Donald Trump's not very tall. No, he doesn't give off tall energy. Putin's not very tall. No, I don't, yeah. I saw her TikTok last night, this girl who lives in L.A., and she was like, oh my God, I went to Soul Cycle on, Santa Monica Boulevard or something. And she was like, and it was
Starting point is 00:26:38 a Taylor Swift special class. Like they were only playing Taylor Swift music. So much of Daniel. And then I arrived and like it's really like sometimes Jay-Z and Beyonce show up to do their own classes and you know celebrities are always there. So I thought Taylor Swift was there because there was like
Starting point is 00:26:54 members of the Secret Service all around and bodyguards and it turns out it was Rishi Sunak doing the class. How disappointed would you be? You thought it was Taylor Swift. And as an American as well it's like Who is that? I've ended up just clicking on this article. So,
Starting point is 00:27:10 5'7, Sunak, yeah, Sunak's 5'7 foot 7. Okay. So is Shultz. Who? Emmanuel Macron and Vladimir Putin, they're all 5'7. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:27:23 And then Zelensky is 5'6. And you wouldn't imagine that. Yeah, I imagine, again, Zelensky, because he's, like, such a powerful force at the moment and, like, you know, obviously, like, epic. You just imagine him. And obviously, it's not something. wrong with being short but I just think it's really interesting
Starting point is 00:27:36 like the picture that society paints and you can literally use Ricky Ricky to his mates Rishi Sunaq is a really good example of how they are trying to portray him as being tall than what he is. So interesting. So interesting. I don't think
Starting point is 00:27:52 Prince Charles is very tall. I wonder how tall Boris Trump's isn't it so funny that you can have this whole idea of somebody like you can follow someone online or in the news or whatever and have no concept of how tall they are? How tall do you think Boris Johnson is? Five for 11. No, five for ten, five for ten.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Okay, hang on. Five for eight and a half. Is he? Goodness me, this is interesting. You'll know something fun. You know Greg from Succession. Yeah. He's six for eight.
Starting point is 00:28:22 No, he's not. And Tom, from Subfession, is six foot five. So those two together are so tall, because Greg makes Tom look short. He does, yeah. And then you see the two of them together. next to Logan, who's like five-foot-five or something. I love them both.
Starting point is 00:28:38 I love Greg and Tom so much, so much. Oh my God, so I found myself in a, sorry if you don't watch Succession, but I found myself in a succession talk, but I'm in Tom's talk specifically, and they've made him, like, first traps, they've made him fit. It's really confusing to me. Yeah, he wasn't, he wasn't, and now I'm in there, and I'm like, oh my God, do I fancy Tom? He's British? Yes, he is.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Have you seen the interview of him where he's talking about how he learned his accent? Yeah, I know. I know. Stunning. Like, what a baby? He's married to Keely Hors, who I love. Yeah. She's gorgeous.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Yeah. And I just really feel like a fantasy in that. That's weird. Not bad. I was trying to get her on the podcast, so don't say that. No, it's good. We're going to, like, just like we did with Susie Wollf, we fucked ourselves there. And I'm still trying for Susie.
Starting point is 00:29:21 My friend's interviewing for his podcast next Thursday, so I'm going to be like, slig on that. My number. Please. Right. Watch this space. For nothing to appear. No Gary Barlow.
Starting point is 00:29:33 No Susie Wolve. and no Tom from Succession. No time. Yeah. No Keeley. But big dreams. Yeah. But maybe Reber will come back.
Starting point is 00:29:41 You never know. Lull. Tragic. The rejected still stings. Okay. We will see you. On Monday. On Monday.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Bye. Love you. Bye. Thank you so much for listening. Should I delete that? It's part of the ACAS creator network.

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