Should I Delete That? - Is It Just Me: Is being a millenial uncool?

Episode Date: August 28, 2024

In this week's IIJM, Em and Alex discuss the backlash to their episode on Blake Lively, what it means to be brat, and that time that Alex got arrested...Follow us on Instagram @shouldideletethatEmail ...us at shouldideletethatpod@gmail.comEdited by Daisy GrantMusic by Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, welcome back to should delete that. I'm excited. I'm in Clarkson. Hi. Hi. Hello. Slightly less controversial Thursday episode this week. Fucking hell.
Starting point is 00:00:17 We're, we got by that, by the skin of our teeth. That was rough. It was rough. Yeah. It was an intense 24 hours. More so for you, because you had to cut the video and do the train. Which wasn't popular. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:32 It landed like a lead balloon. Obviously last Thursday, if you didn't hear it, we did an episode about why Blake Lively was being cancelled. And we should have seen it coming, the fact that everybody's so annoyed with her. We should have seen a reaction coming. And actually, we were really lucky because everyone that listened to the podcast was super receptive, respectful. Yeah. We really didn't receive any criticism for the episode itself, but for their trailer, it was.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Yeah. Yeah. There was, I mean, I think I underestimated the anger towards her. Like, I knew that people were, like, enjoying canceling her, but I didn't, I underestimated how angry people were. And I think, understandably, like, a lot of domestic violence victims, you know, are super angry at her because, and I've been, I've seen the film. Have you?
Starting point is 00:01:21 Yeah, I've seen it. Did you like it? I actually thought it was a really good film. Yeah. But it is, like, completely about domestic violence. yeah I mean I read the book as well like that is the you know it's the central tenet of the book and the film and like it is you know and it is but we did acknowledge that in the beginning like is shit that she said like bring your girlfriends wear your four rules like completely
Starting point is 00:01:45 making light of this very serious subject and a very serious film but I have to say I did like the film I thought she was brilliant yeah I thought they were all brilliant and great cast what we acknowledged is that and we're not going to talk about this for long we're literally she's going to do five minutes on this and then we're going to get into stupid emails and we want to talk about long denim shorts coming back into fashion but before then I think the thing that I have found really frustrating is the singular wrath that we have towards her where we can't really see that it's perhaps unjustified in its intensity like yes we can be frustrated and we can be a little bit annoyed.
Starting point is 00:02:27 What was really obvious to me, what I ended up talking to my Alex about McCar for ages, is I don't know if you saw I did a post about it, but Mason Greenwood was his footballer and he played for Manchester United. And a couple of years ago,
Starting point is 00:02:38 his partner basically brought forward a lot of like photo and video evidence of the domestic abuse that he inflicted on her. It was, and he was charged with attempted rape and assault. The videos are harrowing. It's horrific.
Starting point is 00:02:55 the voice note is I remember at the time it was horrible to hear and really shocking and he was dropped by Man United at the time and then a year later her her case got dropped basically because key witnesses dropped out which is a tale as old as time in rape cases in the UK as we know like fewer than 1% of rape cases even end up with a or with rapes end up with convictions like I think it's mad like I think it's what I think it's no it's 1% in rapes in the UK end up in a charge and that's before you've even gone to trial I mean it is the most
Starting point is 00:03:33 depressingly terrifyingly underreported and under convicted and crime that there is anyway so it's inevitable that you know a case like this that people were able to poke holes in it because they always can because it's the only great case where women where victims end up the one on trial
Starting point is 00:03:54 rather than the person that did it it anyway it fell through and man united wouldn't sign him back again also can i just say how terrifying that she can have all that proof and it's still not a strong enough case like you can i mean how much do we need to believe a woman like it's just proof that we will literally never believe women anyway and then um case was dropped and then last year and then this year he signed with marseilles about a month ago marseille football club in france obviously as Alex would know and my homeland yeah of course your people um he signed with marsefc whatever it's called for 27 million pounds and a lot of people called them and you and they were
Starting point is 00:04:37 like you're literally profiting from an abuser like you're making near 30 million on this guy like donate that fee to women's charities did they did they fuck because it's just not the scrutiny they're not looking at him they're not looking at the clubs they're not looking at any of this all the headlines have been from like the manager of Marseille basically saying he's going to get a loads and that'll calm the controversies he was applauded onto that pitch like a hero was he and apparently or apparently his shirt like number 10 with his name on it was the most worn shirt in the stadium that day on his first game and it's like this is what frustrates me is yes Blake Ladley's fucked up but look at this guy I know and though like
Starting point is 00:05:19 that's what I was talking about when I said that the bar was at different heights for men and women. It's mad and it's like, we'll forgive this guy if he gets enough goals. But like, I don't understand how it's deniable. I mean, that's like, I could rage about that until the end of time. I just don't understand why people were denying that on the post as well. And I really got myself into a tiz about it with Dave. And I was like, in my head, and, you know, admittedly, my head, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:44 things could be better up in there. But in my head, it's so very clear that, like, that this outrage towards her is not. not justified. No, sorry, this vitriol towards her is not justified. The scale of it. The outrage, yes. You can be outraged at how she's handled this.
Starting point is 00:06:02 It is bad. The film is about domestic violence and it's graphic in what it shows. It is, I think it is pretty graphic. It shows like an attempted rape. It's graphic. But, like, she just hasn't handled it. She hasn't handled it properly. She's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:06:19 But, like, how can, that is so. separate from yeah I don't know it's just it's very clear in my head and I was getting really frustrated and Dave was like stop like don't respond to people because I don't think you're going to have a productive conversation here as is all as is the case for everything on social media that's even stuff that isn't controversial like you don't end up having productive conversations with people because it's like people I don't want to listen no there isn't much room for nuance for understanding for taking other people's opinions into account there is no room for changing your mind on social media it seems to be just it's impossible yeah
Starting point is 00:06:54 well the thing that i did find really funny in the comments and i do find it funny with hindsight is everyone going they just want you to listen to their podcast like don't fall for it guys this is they're just click they like it's obviously we want you to listen to the podcast that's the point of a trailer that's literally the point of a trait like people have got so like conspiratorial like we've seen so many like i'm not sheep i'm not going to listen to your podcast and it's like well then don't be so like i can't this is madness i know but i I've had Dr. Elaine, our Monday guest in my head a lot, being like, this is just, this is just the internet. It's fine. Yeah. It's fine. And you know what was really good actually? Because we were both in a spin about it. We cried so much on. But you texted me and said, is this just on negativity bias? Yeah. And that was like after speaking to Elaine and I was like, that actually hit me and I was like, I think it, I think it is. Yeah. Because there was a lot of positive. There was a lot of positive. There was a lot of positive. Yeah. Yeah. And I just didn't focus. I still believe that it's a conversation worth having.
Starting point is 00:07:52 And I was really proud of myself for sticking to my guns because normally I'm so scared when someone disagrees me, particularly when that many people disagree. Same. And I had this, I had this, like, it was like a visceral panic I had on Sunday morning where somebody was like, oh, Saturday night when I got into bed and I saw a comment on the reel and it was like, M Clarkson, I quote you in the art, like, I quote you in the podcast.
Starting point is 00:08:12 And like she put a direct quote of what I'd said in the podcast. Like, she put it as a comment. Yeah. She's like, and basically you're minimizing domestic violence with this comment. And I was like, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And then I read it again and I was like, no, I'm not. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:08:28 About her. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I was really proud of myself, but I thought like, no, I stand by my opinion and that's okay. Yeah. And this is the thing that does make me a bit sad is when people go, I love you, but I've always loved you. But I hate this take.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I know. I've always supported you, but I'm going to have to unfollow you. for this and it's like guys i know someone wrote i normally agree with everything alex light says but not this time and then people were under it same same exactly this and i'm like that's unbelievable that you've agreed with everything i say because we're very different people i don't even know you like and you've said some shocking things in the last few years right al didn't know two seat of cars existed no i thought boats had wheels like honestly like more full you
Starting point is 00:09:18 if you plead everything that I've agreed God help you if you've believed everything she's said but it's like we wait for a woman to fuck up
Starting point is 00:09:26 it's like I love you I love you I love you you've got it right tick tick tick tick big cross bad see ya and it's like
Starting point is 00:09:32 we're literally waiting for the big cross bad and it's so frustrating because it's like we can't just go oh no it's like reading a newspaper
Starting point is 00:09:40 and going I like that I like that I'm not interested in that story but we can't do that with women it's like we've got to love
Starting point is 00:09:46 all of you or none of you And it's so annoying. It's like we just we can't be. Yeah, I, you know, I really thought we were going to get cancelled. But I was adamant that we shouldn't take the post down because I believe in it. I stand by it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:01 We both do. We stand by what we were saying that. Well, I also admit that wasn't my best, like the trailer was probably, it didn't do, it wasn't the best. Yeah, we could have, we could have, because we did say in multiple, multiple points in that in the episode that like, yes, Blake's fucked up. Yeah. Yes, it was tone deaf. Yes, she, you know, like, we acknowledge that. But I guess we didn't acknowledge that in the trailer.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Yeah, which we probably should have done. Yeah. But we didn't delete it. And you know what that is? That's growth. It's gross. Look at us go. Considering the name of this podcast is, should I delete that?
Starting point is 00:10:33 Exactly. Look at who we've been and who we've become. Let's put this away. Yeah. Because I feel like I need to not talk about Blake lively for a bit. I know. I know. Should we go into the emails?
Starting point is 00:10:45 Or do you want to talk about Gen Z shorts first? Yes, but it's not so much the shorts. It was just a thought I was having. Okay, two things, two thoughts I was having. The second one, I don't know if the second one's controversial. I feel like it is. Maybe I don't... Okay, let me start with the Gen C stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I feel like millennials are apologising so much for being millennials and are terrified of being labeled, like their actions being laid millennial, their clothing being labeled millennial. We're like terrified of that label. But we are millennials. We are millennials. but it's because it's synonymous with not being cool.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Let me talk you through the classics, right? And I can picture them because I've seen so many fucking memes. But like the Zara dress that everybody had, millennial, heart-shaped sunglasses that we all wore, millennial. Which is our address? The one that everybody had. Which one? The white and black one.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Put spots. Everybody had it. Our little trainer socks. Millennial. Wavy hair, beach waves. Which I love. Me too. doing a heart with two hands, as you should.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Millennial. Is that millennial? Do you not, have you not seen what the kids are doing? Oh, God. Give me your fingers. Oh, God. That's that. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:11:57 They make their hearts. Oh, man. I can't even do that. It's because you're a millennial. If you had little Gen Z fingers, they'd be right, they'd be all over that. Like, I don't think we should be apologetic for it. Millennial pause. I do the, I do the, of course you do, you're a millennial.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Of course I do. It's fine. But I cut out, my millennial paw. Because I'm scared of it, because it is, once you see it, you can't unsee it. But also because I'm embarrassed about being millennial. Then I'm like, but why? I listen to this podcast and I really love these girls, women. They're like late 30s and they are so desperate not to be millennial.
Starting point is 00:12:34 And it's kind of like, they talk about it a lot, a lot, a lot. And I'm like, let's just embrace being millennial, shall we? But I think it's just another thing. It's just another like anti-aging attempt. It's another... Do you think our parents' generation had this? If you call my mum a boomer to her face, I genuinely think she would give you a whack,
Starting point is 00:12:53 which is big boomer energy, but still... She would be serious. If I said, okay, boomer to my mum, I genuinely, I think she would explode. But I think it's like, it's because we're attaching something to our age and women have historically been taught to hate getting older
Starting point is 00:13:10 because we're judged for it and we're kind of laughed at and we're mocked. And like, it's all fun and games, but actually probably underneath that is probably our like terror about being older and irrelevant and washed up and passed it
Starting point is 00:13:23 and that's probably what it is everyone's just clinging onto youth but I can't do it Alex I can't do it I got on board with the big socks that's fine yeah I quite like the big socks actually less pressure you don't have to shave your ankles that works so good for me
Starting point is 00:13:38 you don't have to worry about it slipping down into your shoe no I agree and it's easier not to lose big socks little trainer socks Oh, gone washing machine Gobble Gobble eats them Big socks
Starting point is 00:13:48 No Like they You know where you stand I'm okay with this trend Yeah that's fine And I like Well See I really liked
Starting point is 00:13:56 The Clean Girl aesthetic It felt very good for me Because I can just like Slip back in my hair But now they've all gone brat There is What you're talking about What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:14:07 What do you mean go brats They've gone brat They've got brat They're having brat summer I'm not doing this with you You know I know Brat Summer means but what do you like what's the link with your hair okay well so Brats are like
Starting point is 00:14:20 they're not like clean girls are like Haley Bieber we're slicking back you know we're doing the crocodile clip and I know there people are rolling their eyes going don't don't succumb to trends you're better than this I'm not I'm not better than this no no no no's Alex absolutely not love a trend the kind of um I don't know if it's called Brat but like the the fade I don't know if this specifically is Brat but like what they're going into now what Gen C's that they're kind of having like knotier and bigger hair, they're going more grungy again. Oh, I see. Darker eyes. Oh, wow. Yeah, like, clean girls gone, like darker lips. Like, they're going, they're going punky. Interesting. And I, honestly, I looked around on my family holiday and bear in mind I'm the
Starting point is 00:15:01 oldest and my dad's girlfriend's got three kids and they're younger than my, me and my, me and my brother and sister as well, so we all get younger from me. Right. I am the pensioner of the kids. And then they all get younger. Yeah. And they all sitting around, and they're like neon bikinis. Oh, wow. Being brats. And I'm there with my like big tummy and my crocodile clip and my toddler. It's not very brats.
Starting point is 00:15:26 I am. There's nothing brattie about me and I would love it. I want to be a brat. Okay, I went, did I tell you this? I went, how my sister tend to and I went to Infernos. Fuck off. Yes, I want to look. told you this. What? Oh my God, I was so excited. You didn't invite me. I was,
Starting point is 00:15:48 tell the people, I've been excited to talk about this on podcast. Tell the people what Infernos is, because not everybody's going to know the nightclubs of South West London like we do. Infernos is an iconic, like, shit hole. Shit hole, like nightclub. It's like infamously, like the, the floors are sticky. My friend got spiked there. Oh, shit, really? Yeah. Oh, God, that's not good. I mean, I've, I've, I've, we've all been spiked. We've all been spiked. It's not Infernos is full. Yeah, well, yeah. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Allow it. Sorry, Infernoes, you're fine. Don't come for us. Please don't do us. It's actually featured. It's in the In Betweeners movie, isn't it? Yeah. It's when Neil does that, like, stupid dance across the floor, which is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:16:29 That's in Infernos. And it's just rotten. It's so good. But it's also brilliant. I can't believe you went to Inferno. I think it's like Pop World vibes, right? No, it's way worse. Rottier.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Yeah. Okay. Pop-a's like one for the girlies. Inferno's like one for like every single person in London after they've drunk too much or bought something illegal and then can't go home. Well, that was my old experience as somewhere like infernos, but not this time.
Starting point is 00:17:02 No. Things have really changed. Let me just say like if there had been a smoothie bar in there, a juice bar, I wouldn't have been surprised. What? Has it been gentrified? People, like, weren't really drinking. Like, a few people, like, had a beer here and there in their hands, but there was, like,
Starting point is 00:17:21 no shots, nothing like that. There was no messiness. Like, imagine us in Infernoes, like, back in the day. Just, like, on, I would be on the floor, probably, like, riding around, like a dog. I would be, like, grinding on the floor. I was, like, I was, I was feral. Right? What?
Starting point is 00:17:39 We were so feral. Like, shots and, you. you know, so much makeup, like, you could just, like, scrape it off. Oh, yeah, Dream Matt Moose. Yes, yeah, yeah, out like three inches in front of your eyes. A ton of eyeliner, concealer all over my lips, back combed hair, heels, like, skyscrapers. As they should have been, what's the point in anything lower? Cut out dress.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Yeah, or like a, or the, the top shot body con, zip up the back, right? Gold zip, yeah. No, no. I love NY T-shirt. No, no. They were, like, beautiful, slick back bun. not a hair out of place hardly any makeup
Starting point is 00:18:15 but with the brats no makeup all trainers not a heel I didn't see a there's no heel there's no heel in infernos I know that bit
Starting point is 00:18:23 we don't wear heels no one tie dye middy dresses like slip dresses a lot of those or big backy trousers yeah they're all in cargo pants cargo pants
Starting point is 00:18:36 a lot of crop tops with it's just stunning to me like so stunning aren't they beautiful i do think that looking at the genitals i just couldn't stop watching them all and then my sister was like my sister said to me oh i feel old just looking at you i was like i get it fine i feel so old what were you wearing i'm like 15 years older than everyone here um i was wearing i was wearing i was wearing trainers so that's okay i got the memo luckily which ones that were you in the adidas sandbors because that's what you should have been in
Starting point is 00:19:07 no i was saying converse yeah it could have been worse it could have I think they're fine with converse. My sister wears converse. It's bad that I don't like the ducca sambas. I don't like. I've just finally bought myself a bear, which inevitably means ducco out of style within a week.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Because nothing is more certain. I like the ones with the big wedge. Yeah, because that's what I don't like about sambas. Is they too close to the ground? I don't like anything to go to the ground. No, because a ball of your feet starts to hurt. Yeah. Yeah, no, you need the cushioning.
Starting point is 00:19:35 I like something with platform. With these joints, yeah, we need cushioning. I felt old and sad and I was like, but also I was like this is such a different experience from Gen Z also wear long black socks They don't always their socks won't always be white With their white trainers With any trainers
Starting point is 00:19:51 God I just can't I just can't But my point is that I don't think we should fight against it Being old being millennial Being old getting older I love being the millennial We don't need to reject Gen Z culture We can take what we want from it But I don't think we should try and fit into it
Starting point is 00:20:10 because we are not it. Oh my God, if I think about the things in my life that I love, beyond my kids and my husband and stuff, right? The things that I love in my life is like, my silly, and also I don't have HG, lattes. Yeah. I love lattes. That's super millennial, right?
Starting point is 00:20:24 Yeah. Like an oat milk. Oatmilk, we all, we only. I love. That's one of the, like, life's greatest pleasures. Yeah. My little, my little, my little, my little, my little, my little, my little, my little, my little, my little slide on our boots. I love them. Yeah. My big jumpers over my leggings. Oh,
Starting point is 00:20:40 comfort. Is that millennial? Fuck yeah. And it's great. Yeah, I love it so much. Yeah. Yeah. What else do I like? I don't think what else makes my life good. Something's dawning on me, but it's quite concerning. Like, and I need to Google it. I don't know if a denim jacket is millennial. I feel like it could be millennial. Probably. And I love mine. That's extremely gutting because that, as you know, is all I wear. No, I think I'd say Gen Z wear those Are you sure? No.
Starting point is 00:21:07 I'm not sure of anything, Al. I don't know anything anymore. Oh my God, the first thing is How do I style, Reddit? How do I style a denim jacket without looking like a millennial? Fuck. If I close my eyes and picture a millennial,
Starting point is 00:21:18 it's you that I see first and then me a close second. That's horrible. But I like that for us. This is all about like stylists reveal how millennials get a Gen Z makeover without buying new clothes. I'm not plucking my eyebrows
Starting point is 00:21:33 I was all thin. Absolutely not. Are they actually doing that? I know there was like, they were threatening to but I don't know. And I don't want to wear low-waisted baggy shorts with my knickers over the top. No.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Because I won't look. I'll look and I'm sorry, I'm tit deep in it. Flattering is still a word that exists in my psyche. Yeah. I would be miserable. If I went out in low-waste Chicago shorts, I'd have the saddest day
Starting point is 00:22:00 because I would just feel like, where are the knickers supposed to come? up to. Pass the belly button? No. I don't think so. That would be very high. I don't know. I just think about Billy Elish's new music video with Charlie X-CX. She literally talks about it. They explain exactly where their knickers should go in that song. Do they? Yeah. I know. So much to learn. I know. But I think you're right. I think we just cherry pick. Cherry pick what we want. Because I like the slick back, but I really got on board with that.
Starting point is 00:22:33 You suit that. You really suit that. And you do it well. Because I do it all the time. Yeah, but keep that. It means I don't wash my, it's because I don't wash my hair. But isn't that, like, isn't that the good thing about trends is that we're supposed to, like, cherry pick from them what works for us and what we like. And then we carry them on after the trends are trends.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Yeah. We, like, take them away with us, you know? Yeah. No. And you've taken, no. Well, I mean, yes. Yes. That's the good.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Like, that's, that's what we should be doing. But we can't because we're all sheep. So sorry. We're wearing more makeup now We went to less And now we're to wear more I feel like they're not wearing so much skin makeup I'm telling you these girls in Infernoes
Starting point is 00:23:11 They had like nothing on their faces And they just look amazing don't they They look so clean I think they do all it I think skincare's had this big You know everyone does this like Yeah thing with their nails
Starting point is 00:23:23 And then they put like the What's the drunk elephant product Where you punk punk Like don't don't And then they're like cream comes up the top Yeah they're all over it I've started using litemancy But like that's what they've got really good at.
Starting point is 00:23:33 They like use the hyaluronic acid and their toners. And like skincare is very in, which is great. And they all look young because they wear SPF every day. But like I feel like skincare might be on the way out. Absolutely not. Younger people. No, I feel like they're all over it. So I've got an 11 year old in my life who like, maybe 12, just turned 12.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Like, and she like honestly, because obviously we're so lucky with our job, but we get PR things for brands or whatever. And I save because I get some stuff from Pixie Beauty. Yeah. And I save it for her because she is like insane for it. Oh my God. Insane for 12. And she has been for a couple of years.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Like I, whenever I bring her, like whenever I go and see her, I take her skincare stuff. And she goes mad for it. Like, and it's same with Sol de Janeiro. Like I gave her. Oh, she was talking. I could hear her talking to her mom about the Soul de Janeiro and I knew I had some in my bag. And I was like, oh, you can have it if you want. I've got the, like, the spray one.
Starting point is 00:24:31 I was like, do you want to. do you want to go, you can have it, it's new. And she like, last time I was, oh my God, I've wanted this episode. I was like, how do you even know? Like, how good is their marketing these brands? Like, pixie, drunk elephant, soldier general. There are a few who have like really nailed, like, marketing to kids. But like, she is mad for skincare out.
Starting point is 00:24:49 20 years old. But she can like it for young, since she was younger. I distinctly remember being 17. We were on holiday in Spain and I noticed that I was getting, like, I had lines on my forehead. And that's what I started wearing. a moisturiser and I applied the moisturiser only to my forehead like 10 times a day and I erupted with with spots like absolutely erupted I can see how that might have happened but I thought
Starting point is 00:25:16 like the more I put in the more the like the quicker I was going to get rid of the lines did it work no no no it's yeah they've only grown from there they know so much we didn't we didn't get to I had that I had um clear a seal clear yeah clear a seal I and love Claricil? Ole. Yeah. I think it was Olae. Or Olae was like the really posh one.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Olae was fancy. That was like above boots number seven. Like mums. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, moms would have that. No, I would have my, I'd have clear assail and then you could have the L'Oreal. I think L'Oll had a little like clear bottle
Starting point is 00:25:49 with a pink lid maybe. But my skincare attempts were diabolical. I never moisturized. I didn't think I started moisturising until I was in my 20s. Yeah, probably. I didn't, yeah, I went to skin, I went to a skin workshop
Starting point is 00:26:00 and it was one of the best things I did. Did you? Yeah, and I feel like I'm going to send my girls to one. Yeah. Younger, because it's nice to look after your skin. It is. It's really nice. There's somewhere between the clickety, clickety, like, anti-aging cream when you're nine.
Starting point is 00:26:16 I saw a nine-year-old on TikTok doing a full get ready with me for school. Well, yes. Go on. And she was up for hours with her leaving. She was doing the sleep shred. You know, everyone keeps talking about the sleep shed. Oh, no, don't. And she was nine.
Starting point is 00:26:29 And she had like the under eye patches. on. She had her heatless curls trolling you because they weren't really well. And then a little satin, like a satin mask thing, like satin head thing. I'm trying to get this stat for you because Dove did some research and it found the, oh God, I think it was like the 10 year olds, 10 year olds using retinol basically. No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh my goodness. Which is absolutely insane. That's wild. I've never used retinal. And girls as young as 10, asking for plastic surgery. Yeah, I can believe that.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Yeah. And the rising young girls using inappropriate anti-aging products because retinal increases cell turnover but it's like your cells are turning over at an extremely rapid rate at the age of 10, like you're fine. But that is terrifying
Starting point is 00:27:17 that they even like have the concept of retinal and skincare. Yeah, I think maybe when we were anti- like if I'm thinking about like the adverts we were exposed to for like the OLA or the whatever, the anti-age when we were younger it was probably like Ava Longoria
Starting point is 00:27:30 and like she was always beautiful and she was probably only like 25 or whatever but when your kids you're like oh no she's older but when you've got like young people now looking at like Haley Bieber or Sophia Ritchie or any of these like young women
Starting point is 00:27:48 like they're young you know they're like early 20s and they're doing all of this so like the girlies are getting kinnies are getting in a lot as terrifying I mean, it could be, but it could be worse. Like, yeah, it's, it's, it's appearance-focused, it's not great, it's teaching, you know, beauty ideals, bad, bad, bad.
Starting point is 00:28:09 But it's not crack cocaine. That's true. Props for that. And also, like, we were just obsessed with binge drinking, really. I started smoking cigarettes when I was 13. That's very young. Yeah, super young. Yeah, like, I think I, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:25 I don't know how much I want to out myself on here, but like, I did bad things at a young age because everybody did bad things. young things, bad things at a young age. It was like, how drunk can you get and how quickly? Oh my God, yeah. I would just drink vodka out the bottle. Yeah, yeah. Like a savage. And then sometimes I'd have a bit of orange juice.
Starting point is 00:28:42 It was like a little cursory chaser. I get, I couldn't know, drunk. With bits as well. Vodka out the bottle. Yeah, bad. Like sambuca shots. Yeah. Through my nose.
Starting point is 00:28:52 No, I never did it through my nose. Growing up was realizing that I just wanted to do tequila and I wanted to be left alone with everything else. Also, I bought a thing of. beer the other day and I was like oh my god buying a thing of beer when you were younger it would be like it would be such a palaver like it would be first of all financially like how are you going to pull together like everybody's getting like to make their money's worth like get their money's worth so we can go and buy like a six-pack who's fake idea we're going to use like where are we going to store it
Starting point is 00:29:18 and then the other day I just bought one for Alex and I was like what that was so easy we've got a six-pack first time you bought beer yeah I don't really drink it and obviously oh I didn't really drink a lot like I stopped drinking for a while so yeah did I tell you about the time that I tried to because I'm really late in the year my birthday is 26 of August and obviously the cutoff yesterday as of the day we're reporting and the cutoff for the year below is the first of September so all my friends were older than me they all turned 18 first I was the same because I was July yeah miserable yeah everyone was able to go out I couldn't so I tip X my ID I tried to turn so my birthday's 88 I tried to tip X out the bit of the eight at the top 36 yeah and tried to
Starting point is 00:30:00 into a club and he noticed, and I got arrested. How stupid that I got arrested for it. And my boyfriend at the time was just like, I was like crying because I was being like taken off by the police to go down to the station. You went down to the station. They told me down to the station. You went down to the station.
Starting point is 00:30:14 They made like an example out of me. How pathetic is that? You went down to the station. I went down to the station. My boyfriend was like running after me also crying being like, I'll find you. Like they would let him come with me. And then what?
Starting point is 00:30:28 I was like, I'll find you. Nothing. Literally nothing. They took me down to the station, had a word with me and then I left. Did you leave on your owner? Do you have to make a phone call? Did you get one phone call? No, my boyfriend, like, ran down there. Yeah, he's not like sweaty and crying. It's like, help. Oh my God, bless him. I've been arrested. Okay, not the guy to call him in the crisis. He doesn't feel like, no, I feel like, if somebody else cried when I got arrested, I didn't, no. No, suck those back up. This isn't about you right now, buddy. Put yourself together. How sounds like that? We need bail money.
Starting point is 00:30:58 I can't believe you got arrested I know That's hilarious And surprisingly I didn't get a conviction A charge No I feel like Worse crimes have occurred
Starting point is 00:31:10 Yes Oh my gosh It was mortifying No absolutely mortifying Because all my mates They were all 18 They could go in no problem Did the bounce ago
Starting point is 00:31:19 Like 999 The police were like on the road It was like It was a road in Chester Where Like it was just famous It was the only nightclub Chester and there was always stuff going on there.
Starting point is 00:31:31 So the police were there with their ban on the world. Oh my gosh. How embarrassing. I wonder how many people got away with like drug deals that night because you, the police were busy taking you down to the station. Oh my god. A little 17 year old girl like crying. I bet you, I bet you lost it.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Oh no. No, we got out and then my boyfriend was like, oh, she would try and get back in. That's like, you're fucking kidding me. You're kidding? No, I've seen too much. I'm a changed woman. Prison changed me. I have seen the error of my ways
Starting point is 00:32:01 I'm living a straight life from now on you don't know what it's like in there you don't know man you weren't there oh my god I can't believe you went to prison I know that is so good I just use my friend maria's in the year above yeah see that would have been a more clever option you had a provisional
Starting point is 00:32:19 learned her birthday and everything oh yeah provisional god I remember that I think my sister's all borrowed my provisional license actually yeah cats have mine jealous yeah i know yeah they didn't know they were born that could have yeah exactly god the streets were tough on you aren't they i know i know poor me well we didn't have time to get into the email but i feel like that's a story i know what a relative population can't believe that's never come out before i know what a treat it probably has i feel like
Starting point is 00:32:49 no no no i know you would have definitely remembered this yeah that is so good i know there you go wow An ex-convict in our mix, ladies and gentlemen. God, yeah, lock up your bag. Come on, surely that's Gen Z. That's not very millennial to be taken to the police station. Are you kidding? Lindsay Lohan coded behavior like that. Oh my God, you're so right.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Paris Hilton. Our heroes. Chloe Kardashian. Yeah, they're all at it. Yeah. These are our people. These are our moves. Yeah, I hate this.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Okay. Yeah. No, you were born for. No, I don't hate this. You are who you are. I am reclaiming the millennial. I love that. Millennials Threw and Thrope.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Okay. We'll get to email. next week. Okay, dokey. And we'll see you guys on Monday. If they haven't come back for Al, she's not back, she's not like, yeah, what's it called when they, when you, like, oh, what's it called? When you, when you do something to your bail and they come back for you.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Oh, um, I don't know. Oh, I'm out of, I'm out of touch with it. We need to tap back into you. I know what you mean as well, it's going to drive me mad. It's okay, we'll let it go. Yeah. You're just not going to do it. People are screaming.
Starting point is 00:33:54 As long as you're home by seven so your little ankle your little ankle bracelet doesn't set the alarm off breaking the terms of your bail that's what I was trying to say That's it, that's it Wow
Starting point is 00:34:04 Okay Guys this has been fun So fun We will see you on Monday With the new interview We will Love you loads Thank you so much for listening
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