Should I Delete That? - Is It Just Me: It can't be THAT hard to be a criminal

Episode Date: September 11, 2024

In this week's IIJM, Em and Alex discuss drug smugglers, feeling nostalgia and the new potential smoking ban...Follow us on Instagram @shouldideletethatEmail us at shouldideletethatpod@gmail.comEdited... by Daisy GrantMusic by Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome back to Should I Delete that. I'm in Clarkson. I have a question for you. Is it just me? It's a couple of weeks old, but I've been thinking about it. It was leaked from the Labour government that they want to ban smoking in pub gardens and outside nightclubs. What do you think about that? I don't agree with it.
Starting point is 00:00:31 You don't agree with the band? No. No, I don't. I really don't. It's interesting, isn't it? I think, well, I guess pub gardens is different because there can be kids there and babies there. So actually maybe that. But like at the outside of a nightclub, there is only one, it's designed for the smoking area.
Starting point is 00:00:50 That's it. I don't know if I was being dramatic, but I was like, this feels like a nail in the coffin for like the night. industry yeah do you know what I mean it feels a bit like not being funny I'm not in my night out era I have not I have not had a night out in a very long time we're talking like years but when I did genuinely the highlight yeah yeah that's part of the night would be a little cigarette yeah that I've stolen from someone in a smoking area of a nightclub That is way better. The best conversations.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Running back down the stairs and you hear your favourite song. Oh, should we just have a cheeky singy? You never know who you're going to meet. Should we just have a, should we just go ahead have a cheeky singy? I know. I love it. But I don't know why they, because I do, I do understand pub gardens. Like, in secondary, um, smoking, not secondary smoking, but secondhand smoke.
Starting point is 00:01:52 But I do, it is like proven to be caught for you. It's not good. do feel a bit like for pub owners that's a bit of a blow because people really like like smoking and if they feel like they can't do what they like doing in the pub they probably just won't go to the pub they'll just like get some tinnies and go to the garden or go to their garden or go to the park or are smoking sections in pub gardens or is it generally no it's like outside yeah it's outside so you can smoke wherever but that could be an option create a smoking area within the pub garden it just feels I don't know it feels a little bit
Starting point is 00:02:27 because smoking is gross and I know they're trying to get it banned and like fully gone but I don't know it's not the smokers I feel sorry for it it's like the institute like the pubs the nightclubs
Starting point is 00:02:37 although interestingly I learned this after a heated discussion I had with the bouncer a few years ago that nightclubs don't actually own the right they don't own the pavement outside so like their little smoking area they're kind of they're just
Starting point is 00:02:51 borrowing it really like it's not theirs right So when they say, when you stand outside like a smoking, or maybe you get a little bit of like the smoking area. But like if you stand outside a nightclub and they say move along, like you can't smoke here. You can.
Starting point is 00:03:05 You can. Yeah. I was like, I have done my due diligence. And on a technicality, I'm right. But yeah. So but if it's law, then they'd be right. So can I, so can I stand literally on the pavement outside your house and you can't get rid of me? Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Yeah, of course. Yeah, of course. Well, I mean, I could probably. I have methods. I've got a hoax. Or ring the police. Well, yeah. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:33 I'm now thinking, like, are we right in thinking that, like, smoking is... But then smoking is, like... Okay, smoking is like a choice that only affects... I was going to say, the only affects the individual. I see fine. My dad smoked hundreds of cigarettes when I was growing up. Like, a day. I'm all right.
Starting point is 00:03:53 You know, I'm... Good. lungs. Do you smoke inside? Oh yeah. Okay. Oh, there you go. No, loads, loads.
Starting point is 00:04:02 See, she's recovered. Yeah, yeah, I'm absolutely fine. Let's get your lungs scanned. No, they're good. No, my VOT, not when I'm pregnant. I'm like literally a heifer when I try and move that. I'm like, but no, generally. But I also spoke for years, which I feel like I shouldn't have done.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Bad. But smoking is still bad guys. I know, yeah, I stopped when I was 25. It's not good. No, it's not good. And maybe we should... Stinky and expensive and it should be banned. Maybe we should want them.
Starting point is 00:04:30 That is a good step in the right direction. If the ultimate goal is smoking to be banned, then it is a good step in the right direction. It is. But it's like, yeah, I don't know. I find it... Because what do you do? What do you think when you're like at a festival
Starting point is 00:04:40 and the person next to you? Because I was... My brother still smokes. Yeah. He's the only person I know that really smokes anymore, I think. Actually, I've got one friend that still smokes. Yeah. And when he gets a cigarette out, like, in a crowd.
Starting point is 00:04:51 And like, the looks people give you. I'm like, oh my God, it was like 10 years ago, or 20 years ago, everybody would have had one. It's amazing how quickly it changes. Oh, well, that's so quickly. Yeah, no, I think I'd move away. Not noticing. We'd not be like, I'm going to have my face.
Starting point is 00:05:05 I've got to move away, but I wouldn't be inclined to, like, stay and soak it up. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting, isn't it? I know. It's moved so quickly. And that was because of the smoking van inside. Did you have, like, I don't think you will have done, actually.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Because I still remember the days when we could smoke inside. nightclubs. So smoking ban was 2004. Yeah. So you'll have been 18. Yeah. Jesus. Oh, I was 10. No, if I was 18, you were 12. Okay, you was 16. In uni, in my first year of uni, they were, smoking was allowed inside nightclubs. Smoking was, oh my God, I was so wrong. Smoking was banned on the 1st of July 2007. Yeah, that, that's exactly right. Yeah. My first year of uni, we smoked inside the nightclubs. Wow. Yeah. God, that's amazing. So I was 12 And then in Germany
Starting point is 00:05:56 It lasted a few years longer Before it got banned in nightclubs So when we went to Germany I remember smoking in a Russian nightclub And I definitely smoked in Greek nightclubs So, so it felt so like wild It never felt that wild to me Because my people smoked in my house
Starting point is 00:06:12 And my dad was smoking the house So it would be like Okay Now what But it is amazing how much it's changed Like in yeah That's so much Because I thought it was 20 years ago
Starting point is 00:06:23 So I thought it was 2004 of 2007 so it's like not even that long ago it's like and it's become so taboo I think it is yeah foul but like you know banning the packaging which is powerful yeah and yeah stopping it being stopping you'd be able to do it inside and I wonder how much the marketing of like the you know basically you won't get an erection if you smoke cigarettes and like yeah your loved ones will be very sad if you oh my god apparently one of those photos on a cigarette packets one of the Gaddavers, the fake cadaver was used without consent. No. I'm sure
Starting point is 00:06:57 of it. Hang on. That's horrible. Cigarette packet picture used without consent. I'm sure it was a dead person that hadn't. No, it wasn't that. It was a 60 year old man in Eastern France says he was stunned
Starting point is 00:07:13 to discover that a picture of his amputated leg had been used on cigarette packets as a warning against smoking without his consent. That's so bad. Shame on them. And then again, this when I was thinking of, woman claims photo of her dying father is used on cigarette packets without permission. Oh, and another one. Man whose photo was used as a cigarette health warning says the image of him in hospital has nothing to do with the fact he was even smoking.
Starting point is 00:07:38 That's really bad. That's coconut. And I'm so sad for that woman, like, because she has to, like, be faced with, that's really bad. Do you know what I want to know? And I'm wondering if I can Google it and find out is, like, what effect bringing in the pictures had on the level of of on the occurrence I think it stopped being like oh let's have a cheeky siggy and it started being like
Starting point is 00:08:01 I'm doing this because I need to do it rather than I like It does take the there's something about like a dead person being on the packet that will turn you off
Starting point is 00:08:12 and also I don't think anything's going to get to the heart of a man quicker than the threat of a floppy Willie like you could die yeah but also you really might not work And that would be awful.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Did it work? Because then, Alex, there's an argument to be said for the obesity and the way that the NHS are tackling obesity because people have often compared what the government did with cigarette packets with obesity. With that, the NHS, yeah. Bus stop ads. Campaign.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Sorry, this is not like an easy answer. Sorry, it's like it's taken me to a research paper. I don't think we have the time. not the capacity to understand that. What was the NHS weight one? I can't remember. It was, I think it was like being obese is just as,
Starting point is 00:09:04 or like increases your chance of cancer just as much of smoking. I think it was like, it was conflated with smoking basically, which there's a lot of that. Yeah. Which is difficult. Yeah, I don't, I don't know. I do think, but then how much of you're like,
Starting point is 00:09:22 How much of our freedoms are being encroached? Like, by not smoking in properties is fair enough because it's private property. So that ban seems relatively easy to implement. But I wonder how easy it is to implement it when it's like outside in public spaces. It's very, because then when does it become like authoritarian? When does it become dictatory that we say what people can and can't do? Well, then it becomes, I guess you'd have to ban tobacco. Like we ban cocaine.
Starting point is 00:09:52 It'd have to be an illegal drug, right? I suppose so. And that's the way that they'd have to do it, rather than, like, the act of the smoking. I'm not sure what's been that affected, though, because everybody does cocaine. That's true. It's everywhere.
Starting point is 00:10:03 That's a good point. Yeah, I feel like they should, I feel like someone should do something about that guys because it seems, it seems hella prevalent. I keep saying on TikTok, loads of people just being like, loved cocaine. Really? And then, yeah, like, I see loads of people like addicts,
Starting point is 00:10:16 like recovered addicts talking about it. And then loads of people in the comments section being like, oh, I'm still struggling. Oh, that's me. Really. Tonight, yeah. I see this one guy, his whole TikTok account is about the afters, like his after party. And it's always just like him going in a random kitchen at like 7 a.m the next morning.
Starting point is 00:10:37 And I'm like, I can't believe that you're getting away with this. He's putting that on the internet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, calls it the afters. No, see, I'm not being funny because it's just like, if a woman puts up like one photo of herself in like topless sunbathing in France or whatever. Literally. And then it comes up, the next. the next thing she knows she's in an HR meeting with her boss
Starting point is 00:10:55 about like her conduct online and then this But also who was it you might have seen it I can't remember who it was but an influencer I think that we know put up a story about her period
Starting point is 00:11:05 but when she said period she like starred out the E and the R because she said that the ins like that she's penalised for story views when she says period unbelievable it is mad
Starting point is 00:11:15 but also TikTok TikTokers tell on themselves in a way that I have never seen anything before They're just like, oh yeah, it's got like a bag. I'm like, I don't know if that was a great thing to tell me, stranger. Did you hear that I don't think you'll know who these people are because you haven't watched Vanderpunt rules.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Alex will know because he's my fellow Bravo. Funnily enough, I've just started again with my housewives. Oh, I thought you were going to say Vanderpuk Rules. I've got to catch up. I'm only on season three of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Los Angeles. Okay, it is really good. But Vanderpun rules is just the next level, something else.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Anyway, one of the stars, Ariana Maddox, who's now in Love Island, the host of Love Island, USA. Her brother just got caught on it going on a plane from Orlando to Germany with 75 pounds worth of weed in his suitcase. In his suitcase. Yeah. See, there's an argument that of putting up you. Or just not doing it.
Starting point is 00:12:19 I love that way. You're not You're not smuggling it very well If you're putting it in your suitcase You've got to get serious about this shit Ingest it Like who checks suitcases The sniffer dogs
Starting point is 00:12:32 Yeah they smell them all the time And then when you come through the bit And it goes custom Like nothing to declare Something to declare I feel like they know They know if you've got something to declare I don't know
Starting point is 00:12:44 I guess they can They're looking at you through the glass I always overthink it I don't know about you but when I'm walking, do I go through nothing to declare? And then I think, I need to look like I've got nothing to declare. So then I start thinking, I wonder what I'd look like if I had nothing to declare. I'm going to walk nonchalantly like I have nothing to declare.
Starting point is 00:13:01 What do people have to declare? Is it like big product ticket items that they bought abroad? I think if you bought like a Rolex. No, I think it would be like if you bought like eggs. Oh, or like a, what is it that? Like a leg of lamb. Rolf Harris played. What's that called?
Starting point is 00:13:17 That big instrument. Rolf Harris went to prison for paedophilia. I know, but what was the instrument me? Did you redo? That's not what I remember him for. Yeah, yeah, no bad. What was the instrument? It was really famous for something.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Like if you brought one of those here, I feel like you'd need to declare that. I don't know if you'd need to play a, but I don't know about that. I think it's got to be like, I feel like if you brought ivory back from somewhere. Oh, God, yeah. I think. But surely you just put that in your suitcase. The sniffer dogs aren't going to sniff that out. No, you declare it from your suitcase.
Starting point is 00:13:48 this is your suit this isn't your carry on carry on like a suitcase is scanned the way that our bag are little I believe they are yes handbags are scanned I believe so they scan every single suitcase Google it I don't know I'll Google it I don't know do airports I just don't believe that they do do airports scan checking bags now I'm going to have a dodgy search history I'm flying on Thursday they'll scan mine they'll be like well why did she want to know During this journey, your bags will be screened at a security checkpoint.
Starting point is 00:14:20 No, no, no, no, no, check in, check in. Hold bags. Hold back. Yeah, do airport scan check? Yes, no. Yeah, the majority of checked baggage is screened without the need for a physical bag search. That makes tons of sense. That's why it's so hard to smuggle drugs.
Starting point is 00:14:34 If they didn't check it, everyone would be doing it. Not going to lie, for the majority of my life, I've always thought I don't get why it's so hard to smuggle drugs. I feel like there's loads of reasons why it's hard to smuggle drugs. I just, I just, I didn't think so. Because, edge of reason taught us that it's hard to smuggle drugs. She thought she was getting away with it in that big plate that Jade, dead gave her. I don't remember. And it was full of cocaine.
Starting point is 00:14:57 I, but I did, okay. Well, I mean, if they get a scan, then, then, oh my God, thank God I didn't try. I mean, I was never going to. But thank God. Well, I feel like if you deserve to get caught, if you just put it in your suitcase, no offense to that person. Like, I feel like you've got to get super creative. I'm thinking, like, it would probably not be very good for the cleanliness of the drugs but you could take off the handles of your buggy for example and then just like
Starting point is 00:15:20 shove it down the edge because they're hollow like the metal cheese why would that not be good for the cloning or the drugs well actually I don't know why I'm worrying because they cut cocaine with like petrol and rapists so it's probably fine so yeah you just fill it down the sides and then just pop it back on again oh I see just loose not like in bags yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah loose yeah just like like a sherbet thing you know when you go to a fun fair and they'd put those like big sherbet's in a long stick and you just go, ooh, be like that, except for good game. Should we publish this? Should we drop bills?
Starting point is 00:15:48 No, I mean, are we allowed to publish this? Because that's a really good idea. I think we're giving people ideas. I don't know if we could publish this. But I've got loads more of them. Do you want them? Like, I think about this all the time. I always think since having Arla, I'm like, easy.
Starting point is 00:16:00 No one's going to check her nappy. Like, you could put, like, I mean, you could put a bit in there. You could put, like, probably, you should probably bag that up. Probably shouldn't have that loose. If you're going to smoke or drugs, take M's first idea. Don't take the second one. Don't say it Put it on your baby
Starting point is 00:16:16 You're using your baby's vessel But that's because they don't They can't be bothered with buggy They didn't have to fall down Oh sorry it doesn't fall down Okay we're gonna just take it through Buggy is such a shout I know
Starting point is 00:16:27 I know While we're on buggy But you have to the baby with you Well yes Yes And I always think to myself Why are they checking me so thoroughly I've got a baby
Starting point is 00:16:39 What you know What kind of a drug smuggler Has a baby What's their stuff you from putting it inside your bra? Nothing. But they check. They check it.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Do they? Yeah. Yeah. Like, they do the, you know, like the check. You go to the scanner. But that doesn't, but the... Okay, so, yeah, I think the scanner would bring it up. I don't think the scanner would bring up drugs.
Starting point is 00:17:01 No. No, but I mean, I think the body scanner would, right? Well, I don't know. I don't know what it checks. The extra scanner would. I always think it just checks for metal. But I think, I think, yeah, I think the bleak-leep scoler just, it's just metal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:12 I don't know. I, the thing is, Al, like being a criminal sounds horribly difficult, stressful, whatever. But there's loads of them. It can't be that hard in lots of ways. I imagine it's very difficult in others. But there's loads of them about it. Yeah, I kind of want to know more about it. Like, drugs struggling's huge.
Starting point is 00:17:34 What's the TV program? Border Force. Yes, border control. Yeah. There you go. There you go. I always think the people at border control aren't doing anything that are standing there and I'm nonchalantly having nothing to declare.
Starting point is 00:17:46 I'm saying, hey, it's chilling. They're watching me like a hawk. They're working. They detain me for having the criminal identifier spray. Remember? Oh my God, yeah. They thought it was pep spray, which is obviously illegal. At what point did they find you?
Starting point is 00:18:01 Going through my back, it was in my little bag. I carry my rape alarm and a criminal identifier spray in there. Yeah, going through security. And then the man was like, I put my bag through, and then he was like, you need to come with me. Oh my God. Did you shoot yourself?
Starting point is 00:18:17 Shat myself. But I did my research. I knew that this wasn't legal. The criminal, I don't know if I was probably, but anyway. Wow. I was like, I mean, I get why it has to be legal, though, for on a plane. The pepper spray is not like, it's not great.
Starting point is 00:18:32 You just go to the pilot. Yeah, I know. But you could do it with loads of stuff. I mean, if you took like enough ketchup hop there, you could re-caver. Do you know what I mean? Like, anything's a weapon if you're creative enough. It's just perfume. That hurts when you get it in your eyes.
Starting point is 00:18:45 A hundred percent moisturise for like a third seconds. You see a sun cream in your eyes. I just don't know you for the whole day. Easy. We've got a spray bottle. A bit of piss, Buen.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Squeak, squeak. Okay. I'm moving us on and it's a bit dark. Where we've been or where we're going? Both. Actually, it has been quite dark. Cigarettes, drugs. And now hijacking a plane.
Starting point is 00:19:11 I don't really know what to call this, actually. Okay. So does it just me? I saw this TikTok as haven't we all I always do nowadays I saw this TikTok is this from you and somebody else it's it's it's an is it just me from me oh okay you're reading it off your phone no I'm reading off my phone because I saw a TikTok sorry with you with you fucking hell I'm sorry keep up jeez sorry um okay um okay and I'm just gonna read this out to you just TikTok okay what about the feeling sometimes I get a feeling and I remember the very very
Starting point is 00:19:44 first time I ever experienced this. I was in first grade, riding the bus to school. I don't know what caused this. It makes my stomach churn. It makes me feel unsafe. My whole body is overcome by a nostalgic, extremely uncomfortable sensation. Okay. I've got, I've had this in my whole life. I remember it distinctly the first time I had it. You had what? This feeling, this sensation. That's the thing. That, what they just described? It's like something, it's like a feeling in my body and like my stomach drops to the floor. It's horrendous. It's like the worst feeling in the entire world.
Starting point is 00:20:21 And it's part physical, part mental, part emotional. And it's very difficult to describe, but it's visceral. And I never knew that it was a shared experience. But what is it? I don't know. I don't know. I have no explanation for it. I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:20:37 I get it at random times. I first remember it when I, it was, my two friends were staying over. and we were just just playing and I had I got the feeling and I've ever since then I've had this feeling like what is this feeling I don't know but do not is it like a bad is it like it's a very bad feeling like chills it's like someone walking over your grave no no no no it's more like it's more like I'm making this very dark on I it's fine let's go it's like it's like it's like it's so hard to do do you know what I mean do you know what I mean do you know what I mean, and I'm looking at Emily, no.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Dax, have you got any clue what I'm talking about? No, okay, that's me. Nope, yeah, this is specific. Well, I found my people in the comments anyway, because everyone was like, oh my God, I've never heard this described before. What is it? All I can tell you is like, it's a feeling of like, I feel horrible. Like, I feel...
Starting point is 00:21:32 Is it like a tummy book? No, no, no, no, no, no, it's less physical than that. No, no, it's less physical than that. It's physical... Are you sad? Yes. Extremely. No, because it's...
Starting point is 00:21:43 It's not necessarily linked to something, like, that's the thing. It's just something that comes over me. And that's, they described it better than I've ever heard, well, I've never heard it, but like, that it's like extremely nostalgic, but in a really horrible way. It's like the passing of time is like on the present and everything's going to end. It's like, think about when you're at, I admit, this has gone way darker than I imagine. No, let's keep going. Think of yourself that you're, like, your lowest when you feel just horrific.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Yeah. Like that most horrific moment. It's like that and it like washes over you and it's horrible. And it takes a good like, it takes about 30 seconds for it to wash over you and then you feel better again. Well, it doesn't sound great. No, it doesn't. It's not. I kind of thought that at least someone was going to be like, yeah, I get it, I get it.
Starting point is 00:22:34 No, I didn't get that at all. I found my people in the comments. Well, they get it. They get it. And then someone said it's to do, it can be to do with being really thirsty, which I know sounds crazy. which I know sounds crazy but I don't know I'm working on like I'm dying
Starting point is 00:22:47 maybe it's maybe you're just dying maybe you're dying and that's just what it is you're just like I'm just dying a little bit which to be honest we all are it was like when your body it's like a need like your body needs like that needs water but it's like your wires are all it kind of like it's like messed up
Starting point is 00:23:02 and the signal goes to the wrong place and like the signals are like misinterpreted by your brain just makes it sad instead of thirsty yeah so I don't know what it is but I'd actually miscommunication. Love to know if anyone else
Starting point is 00:23:13 has experienced this. He doesn't sound nice. I slightly know what you mean I feel very sad in a nostalgic way when I hear a wood pigeon like a no
Starting point is 00:23:22 no like a no you don't know like a wood pigeon sounds like no of course I don't but you would
Starting point is 00:23:29 because it'll make you nostalgic okay for what exactly bear with me okay okay this is this is the only bit
Starting point is 00:23:36 I know about this is the only thing I know about like nostalgia okay and I feel like if I put in TikTok pigeon yes would pigeon sound nostalgia well now you've made me feel very sad
Starting point is 00:23:50 that makes me feel very sad in a nostalgic sort of way but that's not that it's way more intense the feeling than well you don't know how intense I'm feeling it okay sorry you have a monopoly or nostalgia I can't talk when I get it it's like my whole body I can't even I'm like I'm like I'm like gutted but are you sad for like
Starting point is 00:24:09 are you sad for all the things you haven't done in your life? No, no, I can't. Are you sad that, like, your life will end and you'll die? No, I can't, no, that's different. I get that too. I get existential sadness and threat, a lot of existential threat. But no, it's more like dread, not threat, also threat.
Starting point is 00:24:25 But it's more like, it's like I am like gutted to my core. Like, the wind is, I'm winded. That's how I feel with the wind pigeon though. No, no, no. That makes my tummy go like, oh, like I think of like, I think of the little slide that I have when I said and I think, well, I'll never do that again. No, you're not, you're not getting my feet. dying. I don't think you're getting my feeling. I'm not sorry. I don't think you're being a very good
Starting point is 00:24:45 listener. I'm trying to relate to you. No, you don't understand my feelings. No, your feelings aren't like my feelings. My feelings are way worse than your feelings. My feelings are bigger and deeper and more complicated than yours. I just want to speak to people who get it, you know? I just want to get it. I don't want to get it. It doesn't sound very nice. No, no, no. It's not nice. It's not nice. It's like when I get my prickly fingers when I feel like I could have just died or killed myself but I didn't like when I could have just crashed my car into the intrusive thoughts yes but I don't really know I've had the intrusive thoughts until I get the prickly fingers and then I'm like whoa that was close I could have done something awful that
Starting point is 00:25:22 I'm never getting in a car with you again but I've never done it I just get the prickly fingers after I haven't done it and I'm like oh few that's terrifying do you not get the prickly fingers no I don't think so I get like really hot hands I'm like oh don't fuck it up like your life's in your hands don't drop it oh my God It's the pressure. It's like the minute you start, it's a minute like you pick things up with both hands and then you get an itchy nose, isn't it? It's like you put your whole family in the car and you just think, don't get an itchy nose
Starting point is 00:25:50 and just hold yourself together. So you shouldn't say things like that to me because it's like you plant a seed that will possibly grow. You put me in a difficult position. There's not a lot I can say to you. Let me just have a look to see if anybody has said anything else. Should we bring ourselves back up? Well, you took us.
Starting point is 00:26:07 I feel like I've overshared. I don't think you've overshed out. I suggested a really good place people could put cocaine in their buggies to get to security. I feel like if anything bad is going to happen from this episode, it's going to be the drug squad. They'll be knocking on my door being like, you're just, you're being arrested. Please, if you know what I'm talking about, please email us or DM me because I just, I just want to know. I haven't read this yet. But I do think we need to bring ourselves back up, so let's, let's go.
Starting point is 00:26:34 I haven't read this yet. I've just seen the subject line, which is people pleasing level 1,000. Okay. Good afternoon, Alex and M. I write this email to you from my work desk after suffering through what I must describe as my most insufferable but also low-key people-pleasing experience to date and I thought I'd share as I'm quite sure it's relatable. For my work lunch today, I bought in a single serving of chicken and veg pie in a tiny plastic pot. Being slightly paranoid about microwaving foods to a sufficient
Starting point is 00:26:58 temperature, I made sure it was actual lava temperature before taking out the microwave, which is my usual practice. I'll normally then get a cloth or paper towel to shield my hand when I carry it back to my desk so I don't burn myself. She sounds like you. This sounds like something. This is like Alex like coded. Okay. I've got, go on.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Only today, a colleague from my office struck up a conversation when I was taking my lava pie out of the microwave and without thinking I grabbed it and walked over to talk. Quickly, I realized the food was, in fact, burning my fingerprint off and proceeded to play a silent game of Hobartu-toe with it throughout the conversation, inching closer and closer to the door to try and get back to my desk. To no avail, though, as the conversation continued and I did. didn't want to seem rude passing it between my hands resting it on my fingernails holding it by the lid or by the bottom every few seconds i shifted it in an attempt to save my poor fingers
Starting point is 00:27:46 all the while keeping up the conversation and acting normal in an attempt not to seem strange although i was thinking surely he realizes i am in fact so slowly developing third degree burns by the pained expression that i'm trying to hide whilst discussing spreadsheets and annual leave the discussion continued on our very slow walk back to our desk still juggling my food the whole way the whole journey down the hallway where i was finally able to put my very hot pie down and soon my poor fingers on my water bottle. Anyway, I just wanted to see if I'm alone in this or if other people have experienced similar. I feel like this situation is a right of passage for any esteemed people pleaser TM. Side note, I've loved the pod very much and think the content
Starting point is 00:28:18 you're putting out recently is great. But I follow of you both for a very long time. And every Monday and Thursday, I aggressively look forward to seeing what you've got in store from me. Many things. I love that. I love her. Okay. Yes. I have done something similar. I went on a group trip. It was a work trip. Went on a group trip. And there were like eight of us staying in this house, very fancy house, and they had a quooker. Oh, a hot tap, hot tap. Oh, no. Oh, no. I'd never experienced one of those before, and I turned it on thinking it was just the normal tap. I had my hand fully under it, and it completely burnt my hand, and I just didn't say anything. I literally just had to, like, pretend like I was absolutely fine, and I didn't even, like,
Starting point is 00:29:00 shriek or anything, because I was like, you can't, you can't. But I just had a burned hand. It was horrible. That's horrifying. I know. And you just... A girl did... One girl did say it and was like, are you okay? I was like... Shh!
Starting point is 00:29:10 I'm sorry, they're fine! Why wouldn't I be? What's wrong with you? I love that. My little limp, sad hand. Oh no! I just had to go back to my room and run it under cold water
Starting point is 00:29:20 for about an hour. It was horrible. Why is hurting yourself so embarrassing? So embarrassing. I just want to cry. I just hate myself. Honestly, I'm just like, oh my God, I'm the worst.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Like, I just had it at the weekend. Like, obviously I got my bump now. And I was at a wedding. I got my little bump in the way. And then I just stood up and I like knocked over a glass on the table and I literally standing and I was like, I hate myself
Starting point is 00:29:38 and I said it out loud and my friend was like on my other side and he was like, it's okay I'm always in the way he's like of who? I was like of me I it's something like so difficult about like being
Starting point is 00:29:51 human like needing to do things like feeling pain or needing to we or like having to sneeze I'm like why must you why must I do this just
Starting point is 00:30:04 Shut up. So embarrassing. Oh, also, I love that she's, like, so anxious about not cooking her pies properly. That feels like very big you energy. It does. It really does. I'm going to scald my fingers off to avoid salmonella, which I feel like I've never met anyone with salmonella. I cook anything like rice is really poisonous if you don't cook it properly.
Starting point is 00:30:27 I think it's not going to kill you, though. Okay, no, I'm not going to kill you, but it's going to make you sick. Yeah. Yeah. I'll be sick. So I like Absolutely Overcook it
Starting point is 00:30:37 Oh yeah Completely I would rather be sick Controversially I think I'd rather be sick From eating undercooked rice Than eating overcooked rice Overecooked rice
Starting point is 00:30:44 Overcooked rice Have made me very upset Very upset You'd rather get Consistently Okay right I would rather live with the risk Of getting food poisoning
Starting point is 00:30:55 One time Than having to eat food That I don't like All the time Okay fine Okay If my choices are like Raw risky rice
Starting point is 00:31:02 and over-cooked disgusting rice, I'm going to take the rest. No, I'm going over-cooked disgusting rice. No, because then you're just eating disgusting food. And that's no way to live. Actually, it's reheating rice, isn't it? I do think you're supposed to reheat rice. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:31:15 I think it's super bad for you. A guy died, a student died. He ate rice that had been left on the, like, from a takeaway, that had been left on the counter for like two days in a student halls. And he died. It's something called, oh no, I'm not going to, actually, I don't know what's called. Anyway, we need to go. We need to wrap this up.
Starting point is 00:31:32 oh my god that was such good timing i manifested that it's not embarrassing like i commanded so much attention for that like we had to have a silence beforehand whole embody without embarrassment yeah we had to just wait and then it says like oh great she's just gonna like fill her hands with germs what a great way to end the episode then you so there's another one coming if you want to stick around very poetic okay we'll see you on monday you don't want to wait for this a second to see oh no no i do think anyone else does like that all right guys that's fun of see you on Monday. Bye. Thank you so much for listening. Should I delete that is part of the ACAST creator network.

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