Should I Delete That? - Is It Just Me: Less bitter more glitter!

Episode Date: February 2, 2023

In this week’s Is It Just Me? the girls friendship breakups, over-sensitivity and whether Em could be a spy...Follow us on Instagram @shouldideletethatEmail us at shouldideletethatpod@gmail.comProdu...ced & edited by Daisy GrantMusic by Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello Hello I've just enlightened the group because they didn't know I feel like we should start bringing like a fun fact that nobody knows But we'd run out Maybe two truths were alive
Starting point is 00:00:18 But anyway, I'm just going to tell everyone now Because you know, because I've just told you But I was born with a terrible fucking squint Yeah, you really were And my eyes were like totally wonky And bossed and I had two operations, one when I was three and one when I was four to correct my lazy eyes.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Oh, you poor thing. I know, and when I'm tired, my right eye drifts inwards, which I'm actually so happy that you've never noticed. I've never seen it. Wait till I'm in the newborn face with a kid because it'll just be like that way. Darting in and out. Yeah, my sister takes if I'm doing my makeup or like looking in a mirror far away, I lose it. One thing I do, like I feel like I can tell when you zone out.
Starting point is 00:00:56 I feel like you zone out big. it's a very like obvious zone out when does this happen i can just see you go like super wide-eyed and like i can just see like unfortunately i know exactly what you mean because when i when my brother goes i'm like oh he's gone yeah and i feel like we are the we have the same eyes yeah it's super intense yeah yeah you go really wide-eyed yeah i'm really wet but also we talked about how big my eye so saw before. Like, I really feel I have to, like, keep everything in check, you know? Keep a tight leash on everything.
Starting point is 00:01:34 But no, I've never seen the lazy eye, so that, yeah. I don't, I don't have one of those faces that's a poker face. I don't think. No, you don't. No, you don't. It's quite easy to read your face. Yeah, I don't think I'm a mysterious girl. I don't think Peter Andre would sing a ballad about me. Mysterious girls, not you. Yeah, no, you wouldn't be good at
Starting point is 00:01:55 mystery mystery detectiveness you say that I actually think I'd be an incredible detective No you're actually a really good detective But I wouldn't be a good spy
Starting point is 00:02:08 You're a good detective As in like you'd be good at digital detection No I actually think I'm quite good at reading people as well I think what would trip me up is if I had to lie Like espionage Like if I had to catch somebody by being mysterious or aloof or like pretending to be somebody that I wasn't
Starting point is 00:02:29 that's where I'd be gone yeah like if I've got you in a room and I can just be me yeah I'm gonna bang you to rights and I'm gonna find out what you've done and catch you for your crime fine in minutes yeah yeah I'd crumble I'd love to be a police officer um the detective but anyway but yeah if I had to be like sit next to you at a bar and like get your secrets out of you I would just I would get nothing I would not even get a free drink out of the situation.
Starting point is 00:02:57 I would sit down and they'd be like, you're a mole. I'll be like, yes, I am. Literally got spire in across your forehead. Yeah, you've come out, you've got stress hives all over your chest. What have you done wrong? Why are you holding your lip-path? Even I know, like, hang on, this girl sauce. Yeah, there's something about this one.
Starting point is 00:03:16 It's not good. Yeah, I don't have, I'm not a natural liar. I'm a really, I'm a paniker, actually, when it comes to lying. Yeah, same. Are you? Oh yeah. Yeah, I can't lie. I feel that you could.
Starting point is 00:03:28 No, I can't lie. I want to try. I go red. I look very stressed because I am very stressed. No, hate it, can't lie. I think I'm going to set some homework for our next. Is it just me? We have to both do two truths on life.
Starting point is 00:03:41 We'll play next week. Let's, something that we don't know about each other. It's quite difficult, I feel at this point. Weird one, though. Go on. You pointed it out. We don't know what each other's handwriting looks like. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:53 But you saw it the other night at the baby shower I've completely forgotten it But yeah They did a thing at the baby shower My baby dinner Where it was my baby dinner Where everyone wrote like things Yeah
Starting point is 00:04:04 Like guessing the weight of the baby And the names and stuff Which was really bad things I've told you all exactly how much You currently weighs And what I'm gonna call her So yeah that was Apart from my sister who replied saying
Starting point is 00:04:15 That should be £46 and born in September Yeah it was wrong answers only But I was reading it And I was just like I feel like I should know everyone's handwriting don't know yours no I don't know yours it's so weird
Starting point is 00:04:27 I think it's big and bubbly thank you just like me is it no I mean it's pretty bubbly yeah actually it's also quite big but I don't think it's like big and bubbly in the way that you'd be like like a school girl's big and bubbly
Starting point is 00:04:40 okay it's a bit more classy than that oh okay okay the problem is the problem is with my handwriting is my spelling mistakes are so prevalent that it just looks really messy whatever I do because I've always got to scribble
Starting point is 00:04:55 yeah and I can't get through a line okay I was going to say drugs and I was like why did I say that I don't do drugs drugs I can't get through a line of drugs yeah I don't do drugs
Starting point is 00:05:11 anyway I like where that I really sounds like you do drugs yeah you sound stressed um this high popping up on your jets.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Honestly, my hives will be, like, that's how you'll know I'm lying. It's all coming in a polar neck, and you'd be like, why? Yeah. So, it's the end of the day. Shall I kick us off with and is it just me?
Starting point is 00:05:40 Yeah. Okay. Hi, all the amazing team at should I delete that? Love that. That's really so, sounds like one of my burps. Obviously, you want to start by saying, of the podcast. I have to acknowledge that I just started whispering. Yeah, in a very
Starting point is 00:05:57 horrifying voice. You're losing it. I think you're tired. I think you're tired. I'm really tired, yeah. Unsurprisingly. I'm focused on you closely. Yes. Okay. Obviously, I want to start by saying love in Capitals podcast. You guys make my walk to work each morning ten times better. Not 11 times. That's okay. Ten times. That's fine. You are impossible. I'm sorry. Thank you. My, is it just me is a bit of a ramble, so bear with. I live with three of my best mates who I absolutely love, however, they often make small comments about my weight and size, saying I need to eat more and fatten up, and they've occasionally said it's not good to be skinny. I've never had the best relationship with my body and how it looks, and these comments just make me feel super
Starting point is 00:06:40 insecure that my body is wrong. I don't really know how to say anything to them, since they don't mean any harm and they think it's a joke. And I know that being skinny has privilege in itself, so I don't want to make a fuss when I know my experience of comments about my body is nowhere near what others are subjected to. So, yeah, is it just me that feels like this? Or am I being oversensitive and it's not that deep? I don't think, I think everything's relative. So if you feel uncomfortable with what people are saying to you,
Starting point is 00:07:06 then you have every right to feel like that. And just because other people who are experiencing are worse or differently, it doesn't invalidate what you're going through. Yeah. I know what you mean, because often as well, when people say things about you being skinny, it's like a joke or a compliment you know it's like oh you think I'm skinny
Starting point is 00:07:23 um so I think people like yeah you it I completely understand that you'd be a bit wary of like just sounding like you don't have a bit of sense of humor failure or whatever to make a fuss about it but I think you can when it presents itself if somebody is making you uncomfortable with it just be like look I don't want to make a big thing out of this doesn't have to be this like huge drama
Starting point is 00:07:47 but I actually don't love that like I am aware of my body size and this is just the way that I am I've always been like this it's not a question of just eating more for me this is how I look and I think if you were saying this at the other end of the scale
Starting point is 00:08:00 you would know it's inappropriate so can you just respect that I'm uncomfortable and I don't think that's bad like I don't think this I think it's pretty chill you're right and like as someone who is also over sensitive in questions
Starting point is 00:08:13 whether they're being oversensitive all the time I so relate to this But anything that makes you feel bad, I'm trying to, talking to myself as much as this girl, anything that makes you feel bad is valid, right? Yeah. It's all valid. And yes, you could acknowledge that, you know, skinny does come with some privilege and, you know, you're not subjected to any, like, systemic discrimination.
Starting point is 00:08:36 But there is still a beauty ideal that, yes, is skinny, but there are other requirements like having big boobs and a big bum and being white. and, you know, having a small nose and big lips at the moment. So it's not, you know, so there are still beauty standards that just being skinny doesn't, you know, doesn't mean that you automatically fit them. So it's totally normal to feel like if someone's saying to you, oh, you need to be more this or more that, that your body feels wrong, that makes sense. But your friends are probably doing it because they think, oh, she can take it.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Well, like you said, yeah, oh, she can take it because she is skinny. Like, it's a compliment. I mean, we're just giving her a compliment. But like I said, it's not making you feel good. So tell them. And they'd want to know, that your friends would want to know. I would want to know if I was making my friend, even if it was inadvertently, like, making them feel bad. So you'd definitely tell them.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Yeah, 100%. I think there's a thing that I've seen it on Instagram loads. And it's like, maybe I'm not oversensitive, maybe you're just a dick hair. Yeah, I love that. Which I love so much. Yeah. But I actually think there should be some subtext, but I don't think it would look so good as an infographic. To say, like, the thing is, maybe you're not oversensitive, maybe you're just like, whatever.
Starting point is 00:09:49 But most people don't want to be a dickhead. So if you feel like you're being oversensitive about something and you then tell that person and they don't give a shit, then they're the dickhead. But actually, the chances are, most people don't want to be a dick. So, yeah, they just don't realize. Yeah, they just don't realize. So you can totally tell them. I know that's like a slightly different meaning of that. But, yeah, anyway, I have another serious one.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Okay. And then we'll talk about my butt crack or something if that's what you want. Probably. This is, exactly. And then my bum hole, I'm going to, I was going to start a book, Instagram page, but I think I might just do my bum hole instead. Let's just rebrand the podcast. M's bum hole and Al's wonky butt crack.
Starting point is 00:10:34 M's big butthole and else's oneky butt hole. Big hairy butthole. Not hairy anymore, thank you. I'm actually going to great lengths to avoid having a hairy bumhole. RIPP, M's bum hair. Yeah. It's gone, okay? Ripped from the roots, never to return.
Starting point is 00:10:49 We don't miss it. Although, if it was that, I would have no idea. I can't see shit. We'll pass that. Anyway, this is a, yeah, this is a serious one. Hi, Alex, and the podcast team, hope everyone is doing well. I have a really tricky situation I need help with.
Starting point is 00:11:05 I honestly feel like listening to the pod these last 12 months. I've gained a bunch of new friends, and maybe this sounds weird, but you're the first people I thought of to go to for advice on this. Thank you. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:11:14 that makes me feel so warm inside. Be warned, I'm about to discuss a really sensitive topic, fertility and pregnancy. Okay. I'll start with the good news. I've just found out that I'm pregnant. Congratulations. My fiancé and I are both very happy and excited.
Starting point is 00:11:29 However, one of my closest friends has been struggling with fertility for over a year now and her and her partner are just about to start their first round of IVF. My question is, how do I tell my friend I'm pregnant without hurting her feelings or adding to their stress? I feel even more worried because all the while she has been going through her struggles, I've told her that personally I'm not ready to have a baby and I don't want to get pregnant for another couple of years. This is all completely true. We were planning to wait for a while but we got pregnant unexpectedly and now we've had time
Starting point is 00:11:59 to process and we are really excited. I really don't want my friend to think that was all a lie or that I've been keeping something secret from her and I'm worried that might make it even harder for her to hear. something she has been trying so hard for for so long and I've just accidentally done without even trying I know I need to tell her sooner rather than later but I'm not sure how some advice I read online suggested telling her over text or email
Starting point is 00:12:22 so she has time to respond privately first and we can talk about it together another time but in my mind that comes off as cowardly surely I have to tell her face to face I would love to know your thoughts and how you would handle it at this if you do read this out please keep me anonymous thanks for the pod keep it coming love you all I read an article about this from a, I actually think it was Cressida, Crescida bonus.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Do you remember who went out with Prince Harry? Oh yeah. She wrote an article about this for The Times, but I do think that the advice in general, and this makes total sense, is to send a text or an email just, and it's not, it's not you being cowardly. It's you allowing your friend to have the reaction that she needs to have without trying to. hide her reaction and give you the reaction that you deserve because you're pregnant and this is exciting news so I think I think it's really really wise and really kind for you to send a text or an email and say like I want to talk to you about this in person but I wanted to allow you
Starting point is 00:13:22 the space to have the reaction that you know your natural your instinctive reaction to this I think and I'm going to before we air this I'm going to ask her permission but I don't think she'd mind me sharing this and that's how I told Georgie that I was pregnant because obviously lovely Georgie Swallow, who's one of my best friends, since her cancer treatment is now going through the menopause and she can't have children. And we have a mutual friend
Starting point is 00:13:46 who got pregnant a few months before and George and I talked about how how she feels to be told this. And I remember her telling me in relation to our other friend that the worst thing for her was people feeling like that they couldn't tell her stuff. And she said, like, both things hurt, but the only thing that, the thing that hurts more is feeling like I'm not part of it and I'm not included in it.
Starting point is 00:14:14 And so I remembered that for when it was time for me to tell her. And, yeah, like, I thought about doing it over text, but I completely get what this person is saying and that you do, you know, and I wanted to share this because I know Georgie and I know that she would want to celebrate with me because that's just who she is. And we've subsequently had this conversation where it's like, and she said, I'm so happy for you and I'm sad for me. And those two things are true. And they can be totally true. And we had a really nice time together. Like I told her during the day and then we went for a walk and we got to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:14:52 And I complete, like, it's so hard and I completely understand like the position that you're in. And I think you know your relationship with. your friend and I think maybe even if you don't want to tell them over text to say there's something I need to talk to you about and I just want to forewarn you that however you react is completely your prerogative and like I support I support your reaction and she'll probably know what you're going to tell her but it does mean that you are allowed to have that really special moment together because she may well want to celebrate with you right and she might feel sad that you felt that you couldn't tell her and I I know everyone's different and I've
Starting point is 00:15:36 also read the advice about telling people over text so maybe that is the best thing to do but I felt like yeah like I think I mean it just depends on the person and you know your relationship and it is hard like you know it kills me to know that and I think it's you know it's a situation that so many people are in my mom had this with her best friend the whole way through their time together where my mom just she kept getting pregnant and her best friend just kept losing her babies and she just said it was just like it's the from but it's just the most hurtful thing for everybody
Starting point is 00:16:10 so but I think every relationship is so unique and you know your friend exactly yeah so I think just giving her the space to be so happy for you but letting her be sad for herself yeah and to know that the two are not mutually exclusive like to know that, yeah, that the two can co-exist. But I feel like she'll know that too. You know, your friend will know that.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Yeah. She'll want to be happy. I think, yeah. Yeah. You don't want to take away her chance to be happy for you if that's what she wants to do. And I guess for this girl writing in that is pregnant, and I don't even know if this is the right advice,
Starting point is 00:16:50 I really don't, but managing your expectations in terms of how involves your friend will want to be or how excited she will be, because it might be that she can't, she is so clouded by what's going on, I guess, the different, I mean, you can't compare, like, infertility to infertility, but I guess the difference is this woman is actively trying and being met with, you know, knockbacks. So she might be so entrenched in this at the moment
Starting point is 00:17:20 that excitement isn't quite possible for her right now, and that might be the case as well. And if it is, I think, you know, it's just great to have, like, the utmost compassion and understanding, I suppose, for, and to manage your reaction, to manage your expectations for what her reaction may be, especially if you tell her in person. Yeah. It's so hard. It's so hard. And it's so unfair. And it's the happiest time for you as well.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Yeah. And she wouldn't want, I don't think she'd want you to not be happy because she, you know, it's, but like you say, like, you're, you're just going to be on really. different paths for the next little while and you are you're going to you know like you're not necessarily going to struggle but you know pregnancy is not the easiest thing in the world and having a baby is not the easiest thing in the world and this isn't going to be the easiest time of your life but it's going she is definitely not having an easy time either and it's a very very different time um so i guess just maybe accepting and i don't know what your friendship's like but that maybe this bit it's just you just do this bit apart and then you'll come back together
Starting point is 00:18:25 or you just it's just you know and and that is a bit disappointing I suppose but it is managing your expectations to protect you both because you're both going through a really big time at the moment so yeah and try not to force anything I suppose I guess there's a balance of checking in and making sure she's okay and trying to keep her involved in the process but not trying to force it if it's just something that isn't a possibility right now because it just might be too much for her yeah and that's but it does sound like you know that you know like you're super aware of that she sounds very clued into this yeah i think yeah for telling her you know your friend and if if you feel like this would be something that she would miss being a part of
Starting point is 00:19:06 then you know maybe do the forewarning thing but if you just if you know it's going to hurt her or you're 90% sure it's just not worth it and just yeah i would just tell her over text or email and just say with all the love in the world and you know we can talk about this whenever you want and i think that's a really kind thing to do really kind yeah and it's nice that you're taking such a like a careful and gentle approach to this I think that's really nice and it will be what ultimately
Starting point is 00:19:34 like preserves your friendship and maintains your friendship it's not fair is it it's not like fair one either in that situation obviously it's like very different situations but yeah it's just something we have to navigate I suppose as adults
Starting point is 00:19:51 fucking out adults it's so annoying like just so much so one thing after another but massive love to you and congratulations because it is a really special time it's so exciting and I really hope that in like five years
Starting point is 00:20:06 time you and this friend will sit there with your babies together and you know this will be like a distant dream so massive love to you okay I have another is it just me hi to the team should I delete that obviously goes without saying that I love the pod and genuinely do
Starting point is 00:20:22 I'm always recommending it to my friends. Thank you. That's great. Thank you. Wear the mouth. It's an old school, but it's a good school. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:20:33 It's a... Old school, but a good school. It's late in the day, guys. I'm always recommending it to my friends. Thank you. I wanted to say that you're doing such important work in breaking down the stigma of so many topics. Oh, are we? That's great.
Starting point is 00:20:46 I know. My, is it just me? It's about friendships. I'm more specifically breaking up with friends. as I'm trying to put in place some more healthy boundaries around my time and resources I've identified that there are some friends
Starting point is 00:20:58 that I just don't really want to spend time with anymore have you got any advice of how I can do this honestly and respectfully rather than just ghosting people oof this is like set off my fight or flight I don't know, just the idea of someone breaking up with me I was just leaving
Starting point is 00:21:16 so we've handled this one well really well attention in the room we're all like oh my god so first of all good for you good for you I mean I think you
Starting point is 00:21:30 like the Brit in me just thinks you can just slink away yeah and it doesn't have to be like a poof caspar the friendly ghost
Starting point is 00:21:40 it could be as simple as oh my god it's been so long since I've seen you have you got any of your time oh babe I am slammed at work right now I just I'm I honestly I'm not free until I've got this really big deadline at work in like a month maybe we could catch up afterwards and then don't catch up afterwards Daisy's give because I'm on that train too but Daisy's giving us a no no no no what do you do um I've had to break up with quite a few friends in the past couple of years have you
Starting point is 00:22:11 she's going to say weeks I was like shit we're next oh Christ no it's really fucking hard and it's so much hard I think the aftermath is so much harder than a breakup than the breakups I've experienced in relationships because you never expect a friendship to break up, do you?
Starting point is 00:22:29 But you, I think you're always thinking in your mind, oh, what if I ended up breaking up with this person that I'm living in a relationship? When a friendship, you never expect to do it?
Starting point is 00:22:36 So what do you do it? I tried to put it off, one particular person I tried to put it off for ages like you said, tried to go to them, but then they were just like, I've got a feeling
Starting point is 00:22:46 I've done something wrong, and I just had to tell them. tell them what text them straight up and be like you haven't listened to my boundaries in this way I felt like you've been quite insensitive you've actually been intense and I don't and I've been trying to like I don't know I was just trying to be as honest as possible what a healthy communicator it sucked it sucked I hated it so much but it's worked because now we have a help we actually didn't fully break up we have a healthier friendship now okay okay see I like that I think the difficult bit is getting to the point where they say I think of
Starting point is 00:23:18 something wrong yeah yeah yeah i feel like then you should play our game it's nice to be prompted yeah yeah that's how you get there um yeah i'll speak to you on the fourth of never um oh god this is really hard i mean i've like it's really weird isn't it like we've we're our studies quite a lot like episodes about friendships like i've like broken up i don't know like it's really weird like I two one of my best friends I completely lost when um we were 18 and she just yeah she moved to the other side of world and I just I mean that was like a full and I completely understand why she did her mom died and and she and our moms have been best friends and it was just too much and she just left and I completely understand it but having
Starting point is 00:24:02 been ghosted basically was crushing and even with all the context of like I can and I still it's been 10 years and I'm like fair fucks like I get it like it's really sad but I get But then in more recent years I had one friend that I just And I think we can probably come back to each other now But the timing was just It was just all a bit much And I don't think she was the best friend to me at that time
Starting point is 00:24:28 Because I don't think she could be And this was like four years ago maybe And we're kind of coming back towards each other now But I don't know how it kind of happened It was more of a drift I think it was a bit of a drift But I do think I said at one point like Daisy, I can't do this with you like this anymore.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Like this isn't working for me. Like I, this is not the friendship that I want to have with you. I don't know. I personally think in a lot of instances, we put too much expectations on our friends and on our friends and too much pressure on our friendships. And we aren't very good at accepting people for not being what we want them to be. Like basically just letting people be who they are.
Starting point is 00:25:10 And that's been one of the greatest lessons my mum's ever taught me. And I used to think it was so sad. But she'd be like, when people show you that, when people show you who they are, see it. Believe them. Yeah. And my mom would just be like, I just managed my expectations. And when her friends would be like, shit, where I'd be like, oh, what? Like, this is so annoying.
Starting point is 00:25:29 But she's like, no, I just know what my friends' limitations are. I know their strengths. I know this. And on balance, I've decided that I love them. Yeah. And so we're still here. But if on balance, you look at it and that's on you, not on them. So, I mean, that's not this question I'm asked.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Yeah. Like, I don't know. I've only had one friendship breakup, but it wasn't, I didn't handle it that well, I don't think. But that's good. What did you do? Because then she'll know not to do that. I mean. You go.
Starting point is 00:25:57 I moved to France. I killed her. No, she, it was fairly recently as well. We were very, very close. But it became really toxic. for me in that it just felt very negative and everything she was saying to me just felt like she was or she or it would like always start with like I've heard someone's talking about you like I've heard this bad thing about you to the point when where I when I would see her name flash up on my
Starting point is 00:26:28 WhatsApp and we WhatsApp all the time my heart would just sink because I'd be like what what now like it was always something negative and it actually culminated in her she swore at me and I was just like I'm done that's it and I didn't really speak to her again but she didn't try either I think she knew that she crossed the line so it did just we just didn't we just didn't really speak again
Starting point is 00:26:54 there's something to be said I guess for like what I said before about letting people be like letting people be like someone sent me to think to my Instagram the other day saying you know my this girl sent me a list of all the things that I did that annoyed her like what do I reply and it's like
Starting point is 00:27:12 fuck her yeah that's just savage that's me yeah it's brutal like and it's you don't you know no friendship owes that you don't know that
Starting point is 00:27:20 you know like and I think I think friendships you know platonic relationships are as important as any romantic relationship I like my friendships
Starting point is 00:27:28 are the most important thing in my life so I don't say that to be like you know friendships aren't important I just mean like there is no
Starting point is 00:27:34 relationship that that should happen in but then I don't know like I find it really difficult to balance like you know this girl's asking like how do I tell this friend and it's like do you have to tell this friend
Starting point is 00:27:47 you know like because that's kind of what a breakup is is me saying all the things that are wrong I know and then it's difficult yeah so you kind of you have to do it from your eye oh god I feel like we've made this way worse we have I feel like however much stress she came into this with she's going to be leaving with like 50 times more I wish Jack was in the room
Starting point is 00:28:06 I wish we'd answer this completely different yeah sorry I'm so sorry I'm so Sorry. I like what Daisy did. I think you don't make it about their problem. I don't think you make it about them. That's what I was just worried about is that when you said the list of the annoying things that the person did that,
Starting point is 00:28:21 I was like, oh God, I hope I didn't do that. I think it's, no, I didn't think you did that. I think it's not like you did this and you did this and I find this that you do this,
Starting point is 00:28:32 this. It's more like I, in the space that I'm in right now, I can't handle this. And I'm really sorry, but my limitations are the, and these are my boundaries and then it's all about you. It's not about them
Starting point is 00:28:44 and it's about you. There you go. That's good advice. Finally. Fucking finally. But then does that mean that then they don't take any responsibility and they won't change? Who cares? It's you that you're the one that wants out of this situation.
Starting point is 00:29:00 You're the one that wants the dynamic to change. So you don't need them to take responsibility. You don't need them to change. Yeah. If you never want to come back together with them, I guess. No, you just need to communicate where you're at. And it's on their. to respond to that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:12 I can't handle this right now. I need space. Me, me, me. And it's not accusationary. It's just, this is how I feel about the situation. Yeah. I mean, that's how, actually, that's how Jacqueline's taught me to communicate. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:27 So, it's basically like she is in the room. Yeah, there you go. She's coming through you. She's possessed your body. I didn't say that. Do not put words in my mouth. Yeah. Defamation.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Oh, God, I've forgotten. I don't think we've ever butchered a response to a question quite in this way. No, do you feel more anxious about it now? I just, I guess the only solace we can give is that I think it is really normal for friendships to run their course. Definitely. And I think sometimes you'll come back. I had this, this friend that I kind of, both those friendships that ended for me, my friend that moved to the other side of the world. And like, she was like my best friend.
Starting point is 00:30:03 She moved to the other side of the world. She came back last Christmas for the, and I saw her for the first time in basically 10 years. Wow. and it was just amazing. Yeah. And we literally sat down. We were so, before I was pregnant, and we were so drunk
Starting point is 00:30:16 and we just sat and, like, talked for like, like it was all times. And then she went back and we haven't really spoken against it. Really? I told her I was pregnant. I went to go and visit her mom, her mom's grave, like with my baby in my tummy
Starting point is 00:30:29 to go and say, hey, and then I told her that I'd done that. And we had that really nice conversation and we've got to a really good place, but like it wasn't like, it just went back to how it was. It was like we had that one lovely night and now we're on pretty good turns, you know.
Starting point is 00:30:40 And then I had another friend, the friend that I'd sort of fallen out with a little bit, I'm not falling out, but she's drifted apart from. And then I saw her at wedding. I got abs. Actually, she got absolutely shit-faced because I was pregnant. And we had a hoot. Just had a really great time.
Starting point is 00:30:54 No drama, no biggie. Nice. You know, in 2017 or whatever, when that one was, I was like, oh, we're never coming back to each other. And then fast forward five years and we're like, whoop-w-w-b, like, dancing to Mr. Brightside, like having a great time. wounds heal they do yeah and people mature as well 100% and just because it's not right now doesn't mean
Starting point is 00:31:13 it won't be right then and you know still haven't given any of my oh no no you have make it about you not them yeah that's that's a good one basically that text data said right at the beginning ignore everything we said after that listen to daisy yeah I've got something embarrassing to to to bow us out with okay just to redeem ourselves hopefully I feel bad on this girl now we I don't have to do anything. We just have to react to this person's fun, embarrassing Christmas story. Okay, excellent. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Hi, gals and doggie pals. Oh. I never want to be addressed as anything else. I love that. Mandatory line about how I love the podcast. I also listened to 5,000 minutes in 2022 and I'm such a fan girl. What about the other minutes then? Alex loved your audio book.
Starting point is 00:31:59 There you go. Your baby bomb pictures of fire. She didn't say fire. I love this girl. Anyway, are you ready for an embarrassing story? I think I've just about recovered enough to confess. Before Christmas, I was heading into the office on the tube. I live quite far away from my office and I had major end of year tiredness.
Starting point is 00:32:16 It was crowded and packed tight and I was feeling a bit fed up and ready for a rest. Luckily, I'd bagged a seat. I had already done my makeup on the commute, standard, but to pet myself up, I thought I'd add a little bit of sparkle to my eyes for some festive cheer. So I dug out my makeup bag and started to pop some lovely silver eye shadow on. As I sat there looking at my tired eyes, doing a hack job to make myself look more fun, I started overthinking and getting fed up. In that moment, I totally forgot where I was, and I let out a big, huffy sigh, and the loose silver eye shadow blew out all over, all out, across the entire carriage.
Starting point is 00:32:51 I was covered. The lady wearing a black velvet jacket next to me was covered. The man wearing a black suit opposite me was covered in silver sparkle. I sat there frozen, unsure of what to do. I'm absolutely desperately trying to hide a building giggle inside of me. Do not laugh. Do not make eye contact. Do not move.
Starting point is 00:33:09 And for the love of God, do not sigh again, woman. So I sat there, trapped on the tube with some unwillingly sparkly people and waited until my stop, which was the end of the line, obviously. Anyway, obviously I was deceased and I'm writing tea from beyond the grave. Did they notice? She doesn't say. Oh my God. I'd have had to be like, I'd have had to like try and rub it off them. But it gets worse
Starting point is 00:33:34 If you rub It gets way worse Way worse if you rub I don't actually know what to do It's best analogy But you can't ignore that Maybe you can My Alex hates glitter
Starting point is 00:33:50 Hates it Yeah I do hate it I mean I like it I love it I like it but only where it's supposed to be I like it everywhere I think it's fun I've got a bit on my cardigan
Starting point is 00:33:59 Where the fucks it come from You have got it on your cardigan that comes from. Keep squinting at me. Yeah, I love it. 2013, I wrote Alex a good luck card. He was in a gig. I wrote him a good luck card made out of glitter.
Starting point is 00:34:09 I was way too old to have done that. Way too old. Yeah, yeah. Made a full thing, glitter card. Good luck, love you, something like that. Yeah, yeah, really nice. I put it in the back of my car where it stayed for about three or four years. Don't know why.
Starting point is 00:34:21 And everything that went into the car afterwards came out covered in glitter. And I swear to God it was the bane of Alex's life. Yeah. Like every day he'd made about it. But he couldn't throw the card away because it was made with love. and childishness. Glitter bombs are one of the crullest things you can do. Ooh, I did that to a friend's ex-boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Did you? Oh, yeah, the friend that I fell out with. Did you? Yeah, we were in a, we were, yeah, we were, we were, yeah, we were, we did it, her and I did it to her ex-boyfriend. Love that. At work.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Love that. He was an estate agent. So if anyone went into, like, a Savils and it was glittery as shit in, like, 2016, you know, that was me. Yeah, yeah, I love glitter. I wouldn't have minded if my black velvet jacket had been covered in it i'd have been like woohoo i'm a disco ball yeah that would be quite
Starting point is 00:35:05 fun actually yeah i guess not like a someone going to work with wearing a suit probably not ideal no mind you it's christmas yeah it could have been paint could have been way worse it could have been good it could have been poo yeah there you go exactly that's what you should have said to them it could have been that could have been shit be grateful do you know how lucky you are I could have shit in my hands and rub it all over me but I didn't I just blew my glitter instead less bitter more glitter let's bitter more glitter that's the name of this podcast please Oh, I like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Nice. Oh, God, I love glitter. And, you know, it's not good for the environment, and that upsets me most of it. It's not, is it? Well, there is biodegradable glitter. Is there? Yeah. But I didn't use glittery wrapping paper this year because it's bad for the environment.
Starting point is 00:35:43 And it borderline ruined Christmas. Okay. Yeah. I think we're going to go now. Anyway. Anyway. We're at the end of the day and you can tell, right? Tazie's pissing herself.
Starting point is 00:35:59 What? Anyway. It's the Lizzo one. Anyway. Oh, I get it. Am I that flat? Don't get that song on my head, please. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:36:08 No, come on. I'll sing us out. No, no, no. Anyway. In a minute, I'm a need a son of a moment. Pump me up. Fittimphi, walking in mad, bless you a fee.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Jen's face. Gotta figure out the best, duh, duh, da. Because I don't give a fuck. Way too much. I get stint like sick of drinks in my car. Six drinks in my car. Six drinks in my cup. It's over.
Starting point is 00:36:31 flowing. In a minute. Oh, fuck it. Goodbye, everyone. Six shots in my cup. Two shots in my cup. Yeah, obviously two fits. Six.
Starting point is 00:36:44 She said six drinks. No, you said six drinks. She's so good at lying. We have playback. That's the annoying thing. Yeah. She's a liar. You're a liar.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Well, traitor. From our informative and musical podcast. So sorry. All the advice given today. I'm so sorry to that girl. We love you, though, and we're wishing you the best in your friendship breakup. That's all I can say. Yeah, we've fucked it.
Starting point is 00:37:10 We've fucked it. We'll do a friendship episode, and this was not it. We're going to try and get better. Thanks, guys. Bye. Thank you so much for listening. Should I delete that is part of the ACAS creator network.

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