Should I Delete That? - Is It Just Me: Millennial vs Gen Z

Episode Date: March 7, 2024

In this week's IIJM, Em is joined by the legendary Katya, SIDT Live's resident storyteller and Em's sister. They discuss what it means to come from different generations...Follow us on Instagram @shou...ldideletethatEmail us at shouldideletethatpod@gmail.comEdited by Daisy GrantMusic by Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, welcome back to Should I Delete That. I'm in Clarkson. I'm Katty Clarkson. I've got Kat! Aye! She went down a hit at the live shows and we thought, let's immortalise it. Let's get her on tape! Thank you very much for having me.
Starting point is 00:00:24 It's a true last minute bit of flattery. It's very last minute. She said, I need you. I've asked everyone else It was a bit last minute, yeah It's not what I had planned for today But I can't believe This was Daisy's idea
Starting point is 00:00:36 And it's such a good idea So you didn't even think of me No I don't know Okay, so today isn't it just me episode I know you don't listen to the podcast So let me talk you through the format Do you though?
Starting point is 00:00:48 I do sometimes No, occasionally I don't listen to any podcast That's not the defence But how on brand How on brand Okay yeah, that is on brand Yeah So caveat before I let you know
Starting point is 00:00:59 we're getting into today, although you've probably seen the episode title, but we're recording in Katz Flat, which is very cool and very fucking noisy. So if you hear anything and everything, that's what that is. I apologise for the background noise. There is a fool literally right across the ways. I'm surprised they let you live within that. Shish now. Don't put that out there. Shish now. Not true. Uads. Okay, so Kat and I, despite being blood siblings and relatively close in age. Like it's only five years between us are completely different generations. Which I
Starting point is 00:01:35 didn't realize until today. I just assumed that we were one. No. Finlo and I, our brother and I are millennials. No, he's not a millennial. Yes, he is. And you, a little weirdo, are Generation Z. The fact that you called it Generation Z. You're a Gen Z. Big, fat loser. You're a Gen Z baby.
Starting point is 00:01:54 So, today's episode is a conversation. It's like, like, it's like talk TV vibes, call me Pearce Morgan, we're going to have a debate about the difference, who's better, who will win? I don't know, it doesn't matter, but who will win if we were competitive? It does matter. If we were competitive, don't be dull. Who would win? So, okay, basically I just want to discuss the difference in Gen C and Millennials. And you highlighted the first one already that you don't listen to podcasts. I don't know if I'm alone
Starting point is 00:02:22 in that, but I know a lot of people don't. I know it's much more of millennial things. Don't say this to me as my whole career. Don't be like, oh, there's a whole generation. There's a whole generation. I don't know. It might be a whole generational thing. It might not. So, basically, the youngest millennials were born between 1994 and 1996.
Starting point is 00:02:43 So that's me and Finn. That's that you just don't really count, I don't think. Although you do lean into it. I know everything about me is millennial. I did the millennial pause before I start recording. Oh, do you? I was going to bring that up. I love my odd boots.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Oh, there's nothing wrong with that. Comfort is key. Comfort's key. But I like, I like all my basic little things. I like my lattes. I like the beige stuff. Stanley Cup. I've gone, but this is confusing because I, yeah, I've got Stanley Cup.
Starting point is 00:03:09 I've got hook, line and sinker for the Molly May aesthetic, but I've just realized she's probably a Gen Z. Yeah, but she's what, she's what millennials want to be, that sort of, oh, that's tragic. She is what you aspire to. She's the goal, yeah. But she's unachievable. unachievable standards, because she's too young.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Actually, how old is she? Young? I bet she's like 40, but not telling anyone. I know, she's your age. That's what I keep thinking about Kylie Jenner, by the internet, is convinced she's like 40. Yeah. No, she throws me off every time I see her face and like,
Starting point is 00:03:40 mm-hmm, something going on. She's looking, she's looking good. She's looking amazing. She's still, oh, she's not, no mind. Timothy, Timothy, Timothy, that's it, yeah. Timothy Shalamee. Do you remember, do you even, I was going to say, Do you remember writing on VHHH?
Starting point is 00:03:57 This is another BuzzFeed quiz. I always scrape BuzzFeed when I'm at the bottom of the barrel. Do you? I love BuzzFeed quizzes. I actually really do. That doesn't feel like Gen Z behavior. No, it's not. But bear in mind, I'm also, I'm a couple of years away from being a young millennial.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I'm an old Gen Z. And when we were at school, like, pop buzz, pop buzz quizzes are amazing. Looking at your eyeliner, there is no way anyone would believe that I was a millennial. That was the most millennial I've ever felt was I went to dinner a couple of, I was going to say months. Yeah, let's be honest, years ago. The other day. And yeah, the other day, in 192.
Starting point is 00:04:32 I was trying to, I was trying to do eyeliner like you do eyeliner. And I sent girl out like to photo and I was like, can I pull this off? And she just replied, going, no, take it off immediately. And I was like, okay. And I did. It's good to have friends that are honest. Yeah. I didn't see the photo.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Do you have it? I did. It wasn't great. It wasn't good. I really want to do it, but it's just. We have the same eye shape. You can do this very easily. and so time poor that it's such a big risk
Starting point is 00:04:58 that it's like if I commit to that it takes you two minutes because you can do it practice makes perfect but you just look so if I think genuinely cat if I just started doing that like so listeners sorry if you can't obviously if you don't know what cat looks like where have you been fucking beautiful
Starting point is 00:05:15 she's so stonning but she basically does she looks like me but with brown hair but she does and fet Well, we're not going to lie to the people, are we? So you, okay, so for listeners, Kat does the eyeliner thing, the cool, like, the really cool I'm not just going to go on the lash line, I'm going up, I'm going out, I'm going in the middle, I'm going over the top, I'm coming up to the brows, like I, but, okay, genuinely
Starting point is 00:05:46 straight face, you see me, like, you come over, you know what I, you're like, I'm in my leggings, my hair's a mess I've got a kid on my hip and I've got that eyeliner you'd be like Yeah that's cool You wouldn't You'd be like you're alright
Starting point is 00:05:59 Look You'd worry You'd talk You'd call mommy on the way home I know you would And you'd go She's going through something There's something
Starting point is 00:06:05 Happening No I think it's like A fun little thing Of it just like Because I can wear the most boring Outfit ever And I do have to
Starting point is 00:06:12 Sometimes But I always like to have A little bit of eyeliner Or something Or like my rings Or something Just to be like I've still got it
Starting point is 00:06:20 I've still got it I am different, you know? I love that. Find your thing. Don't have my thing. It's like when you got a friend or I got a fringe. You're like, right.
Starting point is 00:06:30 No, get your own thing. Piss up. For listeners, can we just go into pause and zoom in on that story because I wept. She was so angry.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I was really upset. Okay, so if you've been following me for a while, you'll know that I got a fringe last year. Big mistake, huge. That was not the first time I've made it. In 2016, on a whim, I went into the hairdressers. Now, for context, Katty was having her birthday party in April,
Starting point is 00:06:59 despite the fact her birthday was in November, right? So it was. So I didn't feel like it was your birthday. Like, I didn't feel like... It was like my special day. No, I got that, but I wasn't going to be like, I'm going to ruin Katz's birthday by getting a fringe. I went to the hairdressers to get my hair done the day of the party.
Starting point is 00:07:16 As one does. As one does. Yeah. And the hairdresser went, do you want a fringe? Now, with hindsight, I should sue because they should never ask that on the spot. My brunette fat sister looks good with a fringe. I guess I will too.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Yes, that's exactly what I said. Well, that's a word. How did you know? And so I said to us like, yeah, fuck it, I'll get a fringe. Got one. And I left for hair dress for St. Gatia. So on the bottom step about and you cried. Because mum got one too.
Starting point is 00:07:43 And then you were like, everyone. Well, this is a joke. This was my thing. Before I had the eyeliner, it was my thing. I had a fringe. Although, because I have curly hair and I wanted the Lily Allen fringe so I blowdried this fringe
Starting point is 00:07:57 to with an inch of its life. It didn't look good. And then I gave myself stress alopecia. So I was balding. But it was, it's a real cautionary tale. So don't get jealous. Don't get a fringe. There's so much to it.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Don't get a fringe. There's never a happy outcome of that. Lily Allen doesn't have one anymore. And I think we should learn from that. Yeah. I bet she's bald. Bald as a cue ball. She blow-dried it to death.
Starting point is 00:08:23 What is it? She's bored. She's bored. Just open up Lily. Lily Alice bald. I don't know why we're slating it. We love Lily Allen. I love Lily Allen.
Starting point is 00:08:33 I love Lily Allen. I love Lily Allen. I love her so much. Have you seen her house on the vanity fair? I know, I know. Carpet a bathroom. Gorgeous. Only in this instance, though.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Yeah, okay. Carpeting a bathroom is a road decision. Disgusting. But only if you go to the bathroom, like you use it like once a year. Do you want a confession that I just know you're going to be fine with? Yeah. All I weed on the carpet yesterday, I did not do anything about it.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Pretend that I didn't see it. But you'd be fine with it. Regretting it. I just wanted you to sit in silence for a pit and know that you just told everyone there. Yeah, I know. I can't judge. I can't judge. I know you can't.
Starting point is 00:09:07 We've all been there. Yeah. I remember weighing on the carpet when I was seven and I never told anyone at home. Which carpet? It's gone now. It was replaced. It was outside of my room. Yeah, because you pissed on it.
Starting point is 00:09:16 No, if it was wrong. Outside your room? Our room. No, no, no, no, not outside our room. My old room when I was late before, when you were like, not there. And I... Not there.
Starting point is 00:09:25 When you were small, I remember I was desperate for a week. And I never told anyone this. I waited about 20 years to admit this. But I was desperate for the point, no, no. I thought, I think I told everyone in the last year. Anyway, I think I called a conference and told the group. Not you.
Starting point is 00:09:40 But I remember being desperate. And I was running out of my old room. And I was running. down to the bathroom, I ran, and I was so desperate that we just fell out as I was going, and I was leaking, and I weed all over the carpet. So you fell, I had that once when, about the same age, 16, no, about seven, I was, we were skiing, and I was going up the tea lift, and I was about to piss myself, and I just pissed myself, and I did the rest of the day skiing covered in, like, and it got really cold, but, like,
Starting point is 00:10:11 it was lovely to start with, because I pissed myself when I was really cold, and I was, oh, nice, what a treat, toasty, and then, um, and, um, and, um, and it got really cold, um, and, um, Did you tell anyone? No. God, God, God, no. Soaked in piss. And no, obviously, no one's called like wash salopets after one day of skiing. So I think I wore pissy salapest, for a week.
Starting point is 00:10:30 It was my brand. It was my signature scent. I can't believe, we just, I can't believe we've left the fringe thing already. I can't even be blessed left the millennial thing already. I know. I know, sorry. I can't believe you cried when I got a fringe, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:45 It was, I hated it. I regretted it. You look so good. That's why I was so upset. I had it down for one day because I had the same problem and it just went doing. Yeah. Like I got frizzy and went curly. We don't have... No, we don't have the hair for a fridge.
Starting point is 00:10:57 But the hairdresser should have said that. She should have said it. She should have said, there's some curls here. Her dress is a terrible idea. Although, interesting fact, I learned recently that only like 99... Like 99% of hairdressers aren't trained to cut curly hair. Yeah. Because you went to a specific...
Starting point is 00:11:12 I go to a specific place. Shout out unruly curls. please book me in for an appointment before I go on holiday. They're being quite tricky about that. I think I've got one. It's fine. But yeah, no, if you've got curly hair, find a hairdresser that does curly hair specifically because it'll change your life.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Yeah, your hair does it look really good. Well, I've straightened it today. Oh my God, this BuzzFeed quiz is really tragic. What do you think? I think it's a giff of Schmidt from Mugh girl, which is already tell her. Yeah, I love him. I love him.
Starting point is 00:11:42 I fancy him an unholy amount. I fancy him. I fancy Nick. I get it, but he's not my guy. No, fair enough. We all fancy Schmidt, though. Yeah, we all fancy Schmidt. There's just something about it, my God.
Starting point is 00:11:52 And otherwise it's Ruth. Ruff? Got up on the Ruff. Maga Chuttony. Yeah, the chuttony. Every time that, I don't, I don't... A what, Ben? No!
Starting point is 00:12:00 Jackal! I'm in my life. And every time we're sitting in the shop, I'm like, chuttony. Chuttony. Okay, the ruff. The quiz, what do you think of when you hear the words TikTok? And the options are... Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:12:10 It's a place of Kesha. Oh, no. All the app. TikTok round the block Are those the lyrics? Are you kidding? TikTok on the clock What did I say?
Starting point is 00:12:20 Round the block No I'm sure she said that at some point TikTok round the block Sorry, I'm just remembering what Jenny taught me Oh Oh gosh I can't I just can't be doing with Jennifer Lopez
Starting point is 00:12:34 Why? For the same reason I can't be doing with Justin Timberlake Very different Retreat into a cave and never come back. I hate this. This is the least feminist thing I've ever heard you say.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Oh, it has absolutely nothing to do with her being... It has absolutely nothing to do with her being a woman. It's everything to do with her being annoying. Why is she annoying? Oh, God. Have you seen that film that she's done recently? Nope. Watch that and you'll change your tune very quickly.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I don't know, man. I don't know. Okay, can I ask, nothing to do with the age? What do we thinking of Miley Cyrus's rebrand? Because I'm obsessed. I think she looks fantastic. Doesn't she look fantastic? I really admire her for the way that she just puts a brand new outfit on and abandons an entire personality. Yeah, I think that's really cool.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Yeah, it's moving on from the fringe, it's the eyeliner era. She's just doing what you do. It's exactly the same. She probably cried when somebody else got their hair. Noah Cyrus came in with a brown pixie cart and she wept, yeah. Someone else grinded up on Robert Thick, Robert Fick, Robin Thick. What was he called? Robin.
Starting point is 00:13:38 What was his name Fick? What was he called? Do we all just accept that his last name was Thick? No, what's his name? What's his name? Martin, Thick. No, it wasn't Martin, it was Robin. It was... Blurbed lines. Robin Thick? What's the same?
Starting point is 00:13:51 Shut up. That's not the dumbest name I've ever heard. I think that is his name. Ah! Robin Thick! I knew it! Isn't he Canadian? No, he's American. Nothing wrong with that. Yeah, no, that whole thing was really problematic with hindsight.
Starting point is 00:14:06 That song was... Wild. But no one came for Farrell on it, and actually, Miley's just done a new song with Ferald Ferald's got his finger in quite a few pies He always pops up Do you know who sings the chorus On Whereas the Love by Black I Peas?
Starting point is 00:14:22 Yeah But I don't remember off the tip of my time Don't tell me But if you really hear it and you're in your head But he's uncredited I know but I can't remember Wait bear with me Do Finlow tell you?
Starting point is 00:14:31 No, yes, yeah Someone's told me recently Creditor to Finlo our brother for this fact But it will blow your mind He's already been mentioned once in this episode Who is it? Justin Timberlick
Starting point is 00:14:44 Fuck of course it is Yeah Wilde apparently wrote it Well wrote bits of it He would say that though He would God I hate it I don't hit anyone
Starting point is 00:14:54 Waste of Energy But It's a fantastic I gave myself The biggest Ick of my life Watching that video of him and his cargo pants
Starting point is 00:15:04 Doing his dancing Is it the one in front of Brutty Spears Where he's like Buhrudda That one No it wasn't that one But he's his show. But you know, oh, can I just
Starting point is 00:15:12 can I tell you a confessional? Very quickly, Enrique and Galasius, um, humping the floor at his concerts. That's disgusting. Carry on. Um, the man from Imagine Dragons has really balked up. I wish we'd seen him in this era. What do you mean he's really bulked up? I remember very distinctly seeing, for some reason I saw Imagine Dragons like three times in one year.
Starting point is 00:15:28 I'm not even now as a fan. You're a huge fan. I went with you twice. He popped the hood all three times and I remember thinking fuck me. Yeah. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Now I know why he went three times. Fucking great I'm not sure you're the genesis
Starting point is 00:15:44 you think you are, I think you are an old like I think you're a, I think you are a mother and not a boomer and trapped in a no I'm I believe I'm an eccentric old man from like the 70s trapped inside of my body the way that I speak sometimes you are as brown trout
Starting point is 00:16:02 I do wear a lot of brown I wear a lot of brown to go back to Justin Timberlake oh god, boy Alex tried to buy tickets to go and see him in concert because he loves him and it was £600 for him to go by himself. And he was really weighing it up.
Starting point is 00:16:18 I was like, yeah, babe, go for it. Oh, I could just imagine him. By himself. By himself. It's like the time he got ticket, he got one ticket to go and see Youngblood. No, he didn't. He didn't go in the end because it's something to do with Arlo.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Do you not like Youngblood? I genuinely have absolutely no idea. Every single opinion I've had on him, I feel like has been influenced by the mass public and I've had no chance to form I know he's done some weird shit I don't know what that shit is so I don't want to form an opinion
Starting point is 00:16:46 but I did see a clip of him spitting into his hand and rubbing it into his hair and thinking it was sexy and I was like no that's gross I thought you thought it was sexy is that okay whatever flicking you made
Starting point is 00:16:55 no not like a pissy salopets I wasn't doing that for sex appeal I was cold and I needed it away coming in on the hygiene no I like Youngblood's music I should have gone with Alex at the concert
Starting point is 00:17:08 Should have. What jeans do you prefer? Loose or skinny? I know the answer to that. I like a flare, so a little bit of both. Yeah, kind of on the air. Yeah, I suppose loose. I really like the look of, like,
Starting point is 00:17:25 girls with, like, a bit of a tummy wearing low-wasted trousers. Big fat agree. I thought you were going to see something else. No. I saw a video, obviously the comments were fucking horrendous, but I saw a video of a girl like with her jeans kind of like loki undone
Starting point is 00:17:40 their baggy jeans and it's like the Rihanna like pregnancy emulation but this girl wasn't pregnant she was just biving and she looked so cool and I was really inspired by that and I actually on the back of it bought myself a pair of loose jeans and I'm just going to wear it with a little crop top and I'm just going to have a bit of tummy ends. It's going to be great
Starting point is 00:17:56 good isn't that fun I think it looks fantastic yeah me too I feel like I mean I could personally I could never but also because my pants always be sticking out because I love a heart like a big Grammy pant I do not understand low waist of pants No, no
Starting point is 00:18:11 I know, no, God no You know, you know when you play boggle And you've got like the hourglass timer Yes I look exactly like one of those You could have just said an hourglass timer But I love that you fit for the specification Of a boggle timer
Starting point is 00:18:23 Like I didn't think you're very young I don't know if you were going to call the stopw Bongle I'm joking I'm fantastic A stop watch What's your first phone? It was an iPhone
Starting point is 00:18:32 You got really pissed off of me But I didn't have a sim card in it I literally was just playing this game Oh yeah you had my pub touch for a while. Yeah. We're popping bubble wrap. God, that was a good game.
Starting point is 00:18:41 God, that was a good game. God, that was a good game. Yeah, so your first, me and you got iPhones in the same year and I remember just being like, you don't know. Yeah, we also got a fringe in the same year. Lots of things happen, Ed. Move past it.
Starting point is 00:18:53 I was so angry. Yeah. Do you remember anybody's phone numbers off by heart? Yes. Mine. Is that it? Mothers. Is that it?
Starting point is 00:19:03 The home phone number, and I can remember the end of yours because it's got a nice little jingle. to it. Yeah, it does. If you read it out, I'll kill you. But it's got such a great... No, no, no, I just remember something else, but it's probably a Gen Z reference that you wouldn't get. Try me.
Starting point is 00:19:16 I have a structured settlement and I need cash now. Call J.G. Wentworth. 877 Cash now. What the fuck? There's a whole generation of people that just know that. The funny thing is, is I don't even think it's a Gen Z thing. I think it's, um...
Starting point is 00:19:36 I think Americans in their 60s. It's like an advert from, I don't know. You've warped my perception of a whole generation because I just think, oh, there must be a Genesee thing. It's like, oh no, it's just you. I can just guess like you to believe it the weirdest shit.
Starting point is 00:19:52 I think you might have done already. Maybe you'll never know. That's one secret. I'll never know you love me. I love that show. I gave up on it. What? I gave up on it.
Starting point is 00:20:04 I found it tiresome. I found it very taxing. You're very taxing. How easy is your life? That's what taxed you. Oh, it's such a hard shit. That's when I started watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer. That's the difference between this, because I've never seen that.
Starting point is 00:20:20 What a show. Where does you give up on Gossip Girl? Oh, literally like, midway through season two, I think. What? So you didn't see Jenny's rebellion? You didn't see the greatest love story of all time. You didn't see Serena going off the ral. That's all you need.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I honestly that's my comfort show I love it I love it so much I'm on Gossip Girl TikTok although I have to say I've recently found myself on Ed Westwick TikTok and I wish I wasn't there why
Starting point is 00:20:47 such a nice guy like I'm sure he's so cool so handsome say like get it yeah but shit me have you seen this he's like sub-tick-Tac don't know anything it's just
Starting point is 00:20:59 oh oh god no and I actually think that must be very frustrating for an actor to be have done one thing for so long that you're only that character for the rest of your life shallay girl yeah he's charley girl to me he's so good in charley girl yeah but to be holy shit i've a natural i love it when he says that every time i watch that he's going to say it soon but every time how often do you watch sale a girl
Starting point is 00:21:24 frequently i'd love to watch that with you if i didn't have places to be that's exactly what i'd like to do this after oh wouldn't that be nice alas um any time to get there anymore not since the be don't you start you fucking love her I know I would love we can all watch that I was
Starting point is 00:21:44 she's almost old enough to fully appreciate that I don't be told I love Bill Nye I love Bill Nye I love Bill Nye I love he's in that oh my god
Starting point is 00:21:52 do you know how every time what do you see him no but I commented on Richard E. Gras in the band post and he liked it I know you told me
Starting point is 00:22:00 you told me because I texted you I can't remember what it was but I texted you with like some fairly important news or something and you responded being like, wish I could respond, but I'm far too important. Ritchie Lee Grant, just like my collar.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Richard E. Grint. Richie Grint. Just like made common. It was a good comment. Now, this I do think is quite millennial and gentsy differentiating. Where do you part your hair? The natural laws of beauty
Starting point is 00:22:26 tell me I should part it on the side, but I am a slave to my generation and I part it down the middle. Yeah, see, I'm a slave to your generation too. I've become a middle parting gun. However, cowlick, I have a huge one. A big widow's peak, a big cowlick, and this horrible little pubic...
Starting point is 00:22:42 Do you know, embarrassed, I used to be about my cowlick? Because it was called a cow lick. Like, I used to get... Like, I'd see my friends without them, and I'd be like, oh, God, I'm so jealous if you were just, like, like, not licked by cow's hair. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:54 I used to be so jealous. Yeah, to be that I was jealous of everyone's hair. You've got the coolest hair? No, I had low porosity hair. You've got a lot of names for what's... going on, your widows peak, your low perosity, you cowlick, everything. I have to know everything about it because it is a cruel mistress and it cannot be tamed. I love your hair. Thank you. I've always thought you've got great hair. Thank you. It's
Starting point is 00:23:16 because I put a lot of time and effort and sadly a lot of money into it as well. Not today. It looks shit today. It looks shit today. It doesn't make shit today. How do you take a photo? What? I thought you were genuinely asking. I was like, oh God. No, this is like, this is like big Gen Z. Oh, it's like, it's like, it's like, like the thing that like, okay, do the heart, do the heart thing with your hands. Are you going to do it wrong? No, I'm going to do this. Yeah, that's the, I can't do this.
Starting point is 00:23:45 I remember doing... What am I supposed to do with my thumbs? Wait, look like... I didn't do it, do it your way again? Yeah, I remember doing that once and putting it on Instagram and you commented in it, this is really embarrassing. No, I didn't. Yes, you did. I was probably talking about something else.
Starting point is 00:23:56 No, you were. No, you weren't. It was just a photo of my hand. No, I couldn't have done. Yeah, I put a heart... Wait, was this years ago? Yeah. Oh, God, yeah, no, I do remember that.
Starting point is 00:24:04 It's because you, I think it's because you edited it really heavily. I know, I was really proud of it. It was like, in the big, like, it was in the Alamann and it was the sunset for your hands. Yeah, and I was, yes. And I was so proud of the photo. Like, it was like, I'd really up, like, it was just off my hands, the sun coming through it. Obviously, I'd up the contrast, I'd up the saturation, probably put a little filter on it. It was 2016, it's what we did.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Yeah. And you, okay, but let me put a picture for you. This is really embarrassing. I was feeling cut. I just got a new fringe and I was going to shit over everything else that everyone else was doing. God, because it's going to be. Yeah. You're bad.
Starting point is 00:24:34 I was going through something. And look, I didn't even want the fringe. I spent so long with a headband on. I spent years with a headband on trying to get that. Yeah, well. Oh my gosh. So Gen Z's when they go to hold the phone, they just put their hands flat to their head.
Starting point is 00:24:47 That's silly. This doesn't feel like a Gen Z thing. What's the one below me? Like a Gen X and a Gen Alpha. No, Gen X is the older ones. Sorry, Magpie just flew by. Morning. See, that's what I mean.
Starting point is 00:24:56 That's not Gen Z behavior. It's sensible behavior. It is, yeah. You've always going to say hello to the Magpies. Yeah, no, but that's just, that's cute this is stupid it's a really bad
Starting point is 00:25:06 method of communicating on a podcast while we discuss things that we're doing with our hands ha um oh I can't be able to explain
Starting point is 00:25:15 it you know what we're talking about thumb and a pinky or just you're the palm of your hand there we go always gonna live on their phone like by that generation I think we all need to stop being so scared and sad about it
Starting point is 00:25:30 and just roll with it and try and make the best out of a bad situation I actually agree it's actually not going to be able to stop it also blueie is so great what is it you're not seen blueie oh god is it like the no blueie's great and pepper pig you're about to get really excited about something you shouldn't get excited about tell me no you're getting excited about a children's cartoon oh you tell me 30 years old no no no no okay look i'm gonna i'm with caveat it again pepper pig the dad bumbling like he's always like oh mommy pig can you help like oh and
Starting point is 00:26:00 then it was like, ha ha ha, daddy pig, you're hopeless. Mama pig does everything. Like, it's the emotional labour, like the gender stereotyping in that show really stressing me out. It's always just like, oh, daddy pig's just a bit of a buffoon. Whereas with Bluey, mum's an architect. Dad does loads of, they both work. I can't remember what he does, but they're both.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Who cares? I've got the book. Mom got, I'll load the book for Christmas. It's very sweet, so I've got the background on all the characters. Anyway, I think Bluey's got ADHD and they're just really cute the way that they, My affinity. They're really cute, like how the sisters hang out. And it's just like, the dad's really like hands on.
Starting point is 00:26:38 And they did an episode about how the mom had postnatal depression when she had blueie. And it was just like, but not like heavy. It's just like, it's just imparting. Kids, listen to how you made your mother incredibly depressed. Listen, you ruined everything. Yeah. No, it's just, it's like, I think they're all, the show writers are aware that the adults are also watching it. If you know what I mean.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Oh, like Toy Story. Yeah. So it's just, I don't know, I. really like it because there's a lot of shit made for kids and that is not shit yeah it's she just had water she's never too young for that shit h2 i'm so upset didn't run for more seasons well i know poor jamy lynn and you know i did a full 360 on on her me too when she went in the jungle me too because i was swayed by the media i know when she went in i was like well she ruined my childhood i hate her and then i saw her i was like i'm very sorry i felt very bad for
Starting point is 00:27:28 the way that I had, and never vocalised but felt. I know, it's so interesting as well. Context listeners, if you're not massive Zoe 101 fans, fools. What you're doing? What are you doing? Weird childhood. That little key. Oh, the little key. So this is Jamie Lynn Spears, is Brittany Spears as younger sister.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Jamie Lynn Spears got pregnant when she was basically doing Zoe 101. Yeah. And so it ruined her career. And I judged her. Like, I judged her for a teen pregnancy. Yeah. Internalized misogyny, like you, never said it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:58 And then when she went into the jungle, mom was watching it, and I said, how's you getting on with, like, do you like her? Because I hadn't started it yet, because I've been away. It's just like, oh, yeah, I love everyone. I really like Jamie Lynn. And I was like, oh, well, blah, la, la, la. And she's been fighting with Brittany, blah, la, la. And then I watched it, and I was like, oh, my God, you were a kid.
Starting point is 00:28:14 And then you had to be emancipated from your parents because they tried to make you give up the kid. And, like, obviously, what trauma that she's endured? Yeah. And then, who am I to judge her? Who am I to judge her? And I really had a full moment there. I think we all did, then. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:27 I think I think we all did. Good. Okay. Who are all the Gen C celebrities? Apart from... I thought I said who are? I was like, for God's sake,
Starting point is 00:28:38 how much time have you got? I did say that, didn't that? You said... You said it's where all the Genesee. Well, there's Tom Holland and Zendaya who you saw the other day. They walked past this very window. You saw that.
Starting point is 00:28:48 They walked past this window. You saw the other window. No, because I saw this woman. I was sitting out the window and I must have looked really cool because I had music going. It was sunny and I had a cup of tea and I was sitting out the window.
Starting point is 00:28:56 And I was like, but um the ethereal ethereal um but this woman walked past and i was like that is the most beautiful woman i've ever seen in my entire life like i can't believe that's a real person she looks like i was like oh my god she's like like zendaya i was like yeah but if it was zendaya she'd have to be here with tom holland because he's i don't know where he's from in london but he's from going to hold look to her left the little man was there the little bugger was right there i didn't even see him i was a bit yeah but but i sort of went like and the loud gasp i believe caught her attention and she sort of looked up and I went
Starting point is 00:29:28 and then I did a big smile and then she looked away but it was pretty cool I was buzzing yeah he's from Croydon oh is he? He doesn't sound like he's from Croydon If I saw him in an interview with Stormsy
Starting point is 00:29:40 Oh did he hammer it up He did a bit yeah He was like oh we're from the same place And it was like And then he made his voice the same My boyfriend's from that neck of the woods And every time he's talking to his friends He sounds very different
Starting point is 00:29:52 How he sounds when he's talking to me That's the same with Alex When it goes back to Ireland Yeah exactly I can tell when he's on the phone one of his Irish friends. I'm like, there's a lepricor in the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:30:00 What's going on here? Yeah. Wait, what was the question about the celebrities? It was a boring question. Oh, God. Why are, why will the trendy sneakers say bulky?
Starting point is 00:30:08 I can answer that. That question alone sucks. Toxic. When I was younger, I always wanted to wear the bigger the shoes, the small it made my legs look. Where did I learn that? That's why we're all brothel creepers all the time.
Starting point is 00:30:19 God, I loved those. You remember the day I first got those, and I was so excited. And I did a hop, skip and a jump down stairs into the kitchen and I didn't anticipate the extra inch and then at our mum's house in the kitchen like the stairs of do a door like so it's like a door frame and I was really excited and I quite often skip hop and jump down the stairs just for fun and um I didn't anticipate the extra inch that my brothel creepers has given me it's my first time really with any kind of
Starting point is 00:30:47 platform any wedge any height I took a leave I just God I wish I was there for that do you not no I caught my head so hard the sound it made this is legendary. No, do you remember the day, do you remember when I felt downstairs on Christmas morning? Yes, very well. She got a pair of silk pajama bottoms
Starting point is 00:31:04 that were a bit too long for her. And bear in mind, this was not that long ago. This was about five years ago. So you were probably about 26. Yeah, I was really good. And we could hear her running from her room. I'm excited for Christmas. Running downstairs and then just,
Starting point is 00:31:17 oh, and then doodd-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d. And because the door was closed, but there's a little glass window, so we could just see her head and her arms going by. And I immediately started laughing, and our mum was like, like, don't! Like, wait, wait, and open the door.
Starting point is 00:31:31 You were fine. But then the moment of past, I didn't want to laugh then. But I thought she was like really worried for me and she was like, if we'd have to go to A&A on Christmas morning. Well, no, that's just her though, isn't it? She was obviously very worried in her own way. Bless her. I am not spending Christmas morning in A&A.
Starting point is 00:31:48 She was worried. We were all worried. Oh, I think about that so often. But it's not fun anymore. like slipping and falling when I'm carrying a baby Oh, I thought you just meant Crickety old burns
Starting point is 00:32:01 No, no, no Your old, fragile, frail frame I know, I'm a constant argument with Alex As he keeps leaving his shoes At the bottom of the stairs I know And I'm like, do you want me to break my neck? Death trap my neck
Starting point is 00:32:13 To be fair, the bottom of your stairs is lethal And there's always shit there Try having a baby in London Like honestly, it's not what I've realised Like, actually Our flats, our house is one thing But when I bought
Starting point is 00:32:24 I remember bringing all this buggy here when she was first born and we carried it up the stairs and I put it on the side of the room and it just rolled into the middle there is a substantial lean in my flat if I yeah it's obviously you put a marble on one end you will lose it
Starting point is 00:32:39 it's just gonna go under everything is under the sofa everything has rolled under the sofa nice leave it there I'm going to I'm not your problem I'm not getting it it'll just roll back again if I get it before me that was the best thing TikTok taught me is at the back of my head is not my business oh god yeah
Starting point is 00:32:53 I love for that my back I wish my bum was my business because I think I have quite a nice bum You've got great mum Thank you But it's not my business No My shirt's on inside out
Starting point is 00:33:02 Alas for the masses Today What? My shirts are inside out It's bad luck to change it Is it? That's what mum's It must be true
Starting point is 00:33:11 No I'm just Stop Oh my god Oh my god This is one about We haven't really done GenC in big But this while we're laughing at you
Starting point is 00:33:19 Can we remember the Nintendo When we had Nintendo DSs When we were kids Oh gosh And we used to play the game in the 10 dogs all the time and you had a dog you had a puppy and you called it
Starting point is 00:33:31 Lucinda. Lucinda, I did but you have to call it in a very specific way. They only respond to like the brightest of tones so I'd be like Lucinda. Lucinda Lucinda. Lucinda. It's like who calls their bobby Lucinda? It's funny
Starting point is 00:33:46 it's a very funny name for a dog. I was a head of a curve. I bet there's a lot of very charismatic dogs out there called Lucinda. it was weird considering how old I was and then I dropped it down the loo I dropped Lucinda in the loo and then I left her in an airport
Starting point is 00:34:01 and I didn't tell anyone if you were wondering what happened in Lucinda that's where she was yeah no I remember exactly where I left her she must have been squidged between like a chair
Starting point is 00:34:15 in an airport how many like great shames do you have from Tadley who just never told us I have so many okay one more just before we ever No, they Unfortunately, I don't have
Starting point is 00:34:26 unlimited access to them They have to come to me At different points in the day And only then can I decide Whether or not I want to give them back Because that's really, really funny I know it's really sad
Starting point is 00:34:36 She'd probably starve to death What would you say that? Bang of Bones Why would you say that? It's probably what happened Right There'll just be a dead puppy In the airport
Starting point is 00:34:47 Forever For ever Listener's ghost To haunt departures And on that cheering no. Is that it? This is it. Oh, what? Do you want to do it again next week? I mean, I'll come back. I'll come back. It doesn't matter. I'll come back. Early in the week. Come back. Manitius of Wednesday. I'd actually love to you. All right, fine. Sorry, Alex,
Starting point is 00:35:05 you're out of a job. Well, she's decided, well, actually, I have news on that. I have news on that. I have news on that. Al will be back in a couple more weeks. Until then, I think I've just found, I think I found a co-host. Well, no, no, wait for the, wait for the, wait for the feedback. Wait for the feedback. All right. If you want her back, DM. No, no, don't do that. That's so embarrassing. What if no one messages? I'll keep her. Okay. Okay. If you don't want her back, message me. That's almost worse. I don't know. I hate your message. Don't say a single thing about me. Don't form an opinion on me. Don't observe me. Don't perceive me. Don't perceive me. Please, for the love of God, don't perceive me. I was never here. Right. Well, whether you want her or not,
Starting point is 00:35:41 she'll be back next week. For another, if it's just me, Al, we'll be back. We've got a date. We've got a studio time booked in. Um, but like I said last week, it's just really important that she just spends this time with Tommy because you don't get this time back again. and that's the most important thing right now and also this is, I mean, there are serious jobs that women have to go back to all over the country and I'm not sure that this is one that she needs to...
Starting point is 00:36:03 Shooting the shit with your giao pals. No? Oh, I thought she reached out her hand to hold my hand and she went to shake it, so that was crashing. All right, guys, we will be back next week on Thursday. Love you loads. Love you, oh sorry, love you.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Who are you saying love you to? Me. I don't ever know. Oh, guys, love you loads. you on Monday. Oh, will you say goodbye, please? Bye, everyone. Goodbye everyone. Bye-bye now. Bye-bye now. Bye-bye now. Thank you so much for listening. Should I delete that is part of the ACAST creator network.

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