Should I Delete That? - Is It Just Me: The fate debate

Episode Date: November 10, 2022

In this week’s Is It Just Me? the girls discuss destiny, Antarctica and being a Londoner vs being British...Follow us on Instagram @shouldideletethatEmail us at [e-mail] & edited by Daisy GrantMusic by Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Hope everyone enjoyed that. Hi. I'm kicking us off. I don't know why I'm kicking his off as things so serious actually, but I've... How serious? Should I bring my tone back up again? Actually not that. It's serious, but it's not deep and dark.

Okay, let me just say it. It's not dark. Is it just me? Or does anyone else? feel like they'll never know what job they should do that's quite serious yeah it is quite serious isn't it yeah I live in perpetual fear that one day I'm Instagram will go and I'll have to get a proper job and I don't know what it'll be this was someone else's question by the way not mine just FYI that was like down the job centre Instagram's done she's had enough but I think about

this a lot because how the hell are you supposed to know when you leave school okay first of all GCSE. GCSA is still very broad. You only drop like two subjects, don't you, or whatever. But then A level, you have to narrow that down quite significantly. So significantly. And that changes then the course of your life when you're 16 and you have to be like... 15, you've to make the decision. Yeah. So, so young. And then you're kind of funneled then into something that you might not... I think about this a lot. I just don't think it's right. I mean, I don't know the alternative. I haven't got that but I don't think it's right. Mine were a total guess, my A-levels. You did French and Spanish? No, French English language, biology and chemistry. Biggs, yeah, fine. But I do. Oh yeah,

I remember. Is that art? Yeah. English. Yeah. Politics and history. Which makes sense. I'm interested in those things. That makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, English language, which I regret I should have an English lit, I think. You would definitely be better at the English lit, I think. And also in my GCSEs, I got, I don't want to show off, but I can because I did so badly in the rest of them, but I got, apart of my art in English, I got 98% in my English lit GCSE, which was like so good. Why didn't you take that very level?

Well, because I thought I was better at English language and I got a C in English language. And when I got to my fucking A level classroom, it was the same teacher. And the guy told me it was a fluke that I had done that well in English lit. And I was like, you know, a massive knob. And then he decided to be my teacher for two years. Honestly, my spirits at school was so, like, murdered. So I was wondering where we go over that. I was thinking like, dash, but I was like, it's not enough.

Like, I had so little confidence in my own academic ability. And I'm not saying I'm a smart person, but I consistently felt like an idiot. And that teacher really didn't help. He made me feel like such an idiot so much of the time. And I know no one can make you feel like an idiot you and you make yourself feel like stuff. but also when you were like 14 and your teachers telling you shit yeah and he has so much power over you I don't know what I look back and I'm like why did I give you so much power

he wore Velcro school shoes and he was like in his 60s and I gave him and I was so scared of him and so upset by him and now I think about him I'm like hmm you weren't all that no anyway but yeah I just I think it's I think it's crazy honestly I just think there should be a better system. And like, I remember we had a, um, like I did biology and chemistry just basically just because I did well in them at UCSA. I know, so random. So I was like, well, I don't like, might as well just do them for it. And then that kept, lull, that kept me open then to do, to be a doctor, which is obviously never going to fucking happen. Is that a joke? Can you imagine a worse doctor than me? Is that genuine conversation you had around the kitchen table? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I had

absolutely no idea what I wanted to do. A French doctor. That was a lot. I was like, oh, I'm quite good at the sciences. So, like, maybe this is where I'm supposed to go. So I was like, I'm going to keep it so random, like, English and French, and then biology and chemistry. Anyway, it didn't work out. Thank God. Thank God it didn't work out. But, like, I had no idea.

To this day, I still, I think, I actually don't think many people really have a something that they're supposed to do and, like, this role that they're supposed to fulfill. Oh, I don't know. There are some people that, like, some people are doctors or that's rare, I think. I do think it's rare. I think the majority, vast majority of us fall into something like life just... What's that Oscar Wild quote? Don't know. Oh, it's, I keep saying it on Radio 4.

Oscar Wild quote, like, oh, for fuck's sake. There is a quote that exists that I've forgotten. The gist of it is basically like you can feel sorry for somebody who knows what they want to do because the adventure of life is not knowing. Like you have to pity somebody that's always been on a certain path and knowing what they want to do. Wow. I think it's to make other people feel better. I think it's to make the people that don't have a fucking clue about themselves feel better. Because realistically, the lawyers who have like a steady salary and love their jobs probably feel better than like the people who are like

37 being like, why am I working here? I hate it. But at least Oscar Wilde said that I'm living the adventure of a lifetime, you know? That's probably why you said it. Do you know why I'm really going for Oscar Wilde today? I'll leave the loan. I'm really sorry. Rest and peace. See, but this gets me thinking too hard because then it's like when I think about the fact that every little micro decision and microsecond changes the course of your life then are you okay that freaks me how Jen's giving me the weird eyes but but what do you think you've done today that has impacted everything existentially like the the course of your life absolutely everything name me five things that you've done

that have completely altered the course of your life. I won't even know. Oh, this is what I was trying to remember. This is the Oscar Wild quote. If you want to be a grocer, we're going to go back to your existential in a second. If you want to be a grocer or a general or a politician or a judge,

you will invariably become it. That is your punishment. He's saying that it's a punishment to be the thing that you always thought you're going to be. It's like a prison. It's like trapped. Yeah. I don't know.

I think there's something cool and having like a real... But I think a massive part of you would thrive in prison. Do you say you? I think you would. I think you'd do really well being fed three times a day. Exercise, like you've just got

people running the big stuff. So all you have to do is just what you want. Is it? Survive. Yeah. All you have to do is just sort of like walk from there to there. Eat. Lap of the quad. Probably.

Whatever. Court. Whatever they call it. Yeah. Probably. And then just back into your room. You'd be locked up so you've not got any temptations to go out. It might take some, I want to say it'll take some stress out of life, but I don't know if that's true.

I think it would be a prison might be quite stressful. I think you'd find it more relaxing in lots of ways than you would a spa break. And the spa break, you'd be looking at the list like, oh God, what am I going to have? I got my nails, I got my nails. I know. And my phone's like, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Yeah, exactly. In prison, it would just be serenity.

Maybe that's that. I've never thought about it. Maybe I'd like a little stint. Let's, don't, I mean, you know what? I was actually listening on the radio this morning about Boris Becker's time in prison and he seems to be absolutely thriving. They say he's lost a bunch of weight, he's sober,

and the newsreader Ashley was really out. It was like, well, obviously, like alcohol's bound in prison. Yeah, he seems to be thriving. Is he like teaching yoga in prison or something? Yeah, I think he's in Wonsworth prison. I actually didn't know who's in prison, but... Yeah. Well, he got a blowjob in Nobu, that's all I know about him.

Did he? He did, yeah. Alex to be there for dinner once, and my mum was like, oh, did you give a blowjob with a bathroom? and I was like, what kind of a horrifying question is that? And I didn't realize the reference to Boris Berger. We should probably say allegedly.

No, no. I think he was a busted, yeah. Ah, okay, there you go. Yeah. So again, going back to the things you've done this morning that have completely changed the course of your life. Well, if I'd have got on the train or the tube before or after, everything would have just completely changed.

Well, not really. You just would have been like two minutes later or two minutes earlier. But everything builds up to have an impact, doesn't it? On like where the course of your day, it changes the course of your hour, then your morning, then that it all has this weird, like, it builds momentum to just like change the course of your life.

But isn't it nicer to just be like, yeah, much nicer. Yeah, like there was a reason I got on this train. Yeah, but we know this. Like I don't, I can't make myself believe that like everything's supposed to be. I feel like everything, nothing is written in the stars

like there's no destiny like everything happens you should write children's books there is nothing in the stars and no such thing is destiny I don't think there is though or fate I don't think there is anything as coincidence

you don't believe in coincidences no I do believe in coincidences sorry in a minute she's going to tell us that the earth is flat no it definitely is No, I'm kidding. I was like, okay. I do love watching conspiracy theories.

I don't believe any of them, but I do enjoy watching them. You might believe some of them. I haven't found one yet that I'm really... Sucked in by. One that does confuse me is the Avril Lavina's Dead conspiracy theory. That feels... Suspicious. There is something fishy going on with her and that lookalike.

It's weird. It's all very, very strange. We didn't know that Brittany was in a conservative. all that time, so in conservatorship. So, I'm not rolling out. Yeah, exactly. Okay, but then, go, sorry, going, I can't just let this go. You don't believe in coincidences?

No, I do, I do, I do. But you have to believe in coincidence because otherwise it's fate. You know, like, no, I do believe in coincidence. What I mean, sorry, is like, you know, you know when like, when people, or like, you know when people like, oh, I was actually just, I was thinking about them this morning, sorry,

I believe fully in coincidence is not that anything is fate, right? So you know when people say like, oh, I was thinking about them and then they rang me like, I'm like, you know, oh, I must have been, I think it's absolutely bullshit. I say that to you all the time. But genuinely, okay, there are some things in my life that have happened that I'm like, explain this to me. Okay, give me an example.

Okay. Weirdly, we mentioned this in the last, is it just me as well? But in 2018, my brother had an accident, right? On Monday morning for the last 14 years, my mom's gone to the gym, or it was 14 years at a time, it's been now like 20. years. She's gone, she's seen the same PT every single morning at 8 a.m. on a Monday morning until 10 a.m. So for literally like 15 years, I would never call her on a Monday or a Wednesday morning because she's with a PT. I just always has been, always like, like for as long as forever,

like she's been doing that. So I'd never call her. And on this one Monday morning in February, I had this feeling and it was like, I woke up and I was like, something's wrong. I need to talk to my mom. And I can't tell you. It was just the weirdest thing. I was like, I just have to talk to her. and I rang her and she answered and she went, Finners broke his neck, come to the hospital. I was like, what the fuck was that? I rang like 8.30 in the morning. Why did I do that?

I had no, she didn't call me. I hadn't heard from her. And it's just like, why did I do that? Yeah. It's so weird. Again, when my friend Anna was in having her baby and she was in, she was like super pregnant, I was looking, you know, the thing, it's like magpies

and it's like one for sorrow, two for joy, three for a girl, four for a boy. Yeah. I was looking, fucking everywhere for three magpies. Every day I went on my walk and I was looking there were twos, there were ones, there were fours, there were never only threes. I sent her a text at 5.15 saying, Anna, I've just seen three magpies. I've just seen three magpies.

No, at 5 p.m. I sent that. And she replied four hours later being like, your goddaughter born at 5 p.m. today. Like, what are the fucking chances? Tell me that that's not fate. Like, it's sometimes the universe does these lovely little things. and it's like wow yeah but okay but I'm not I don't want to because I don't want to take those things away from you because that's like that's really nice so I don't want to say anything you know because like it's okay you can because I genuinely believe in my soul but I think like think of all the times that the universe hasn't done that which is like 99.9999% of time like to me those things are coincidences what a horrible way of thinking yeah but then but I quite like that that works with my brain like I like as with religion and and stuff like that as well.

Like I like, I prefer to take the more like sciencey route. That interests me. I think that's where that speaks to me more and like the more, and psychology route as well. Can you explain deja vu? Well, there are theories, aren't there? But no one like has an actual. Yeah, no one actually know.

There is no science. We have to believe that it's fate. No, it's probably just like a physiological thing. Nah. I love thinking that it's just like, it's all right. Like, it's all okay. But I think that's nice. If you like thinking that, then that's a nice thing to think.

Fliss has got a baby coming any day now, and I am out there like fucking Magpie Patrol, willing that baby. And I know, I have 100% certainty that on the day that baby's born, I'll see the right amount of magpies. I know it. And that's very nice. And I used to wish I was like that, but I don't anymore because I realize that I don't take pleasure and things like that.

Like, that's not exciting to me. feeling in my tummy when I just think like everything's good and like when things don't happen the right way where before I'd get like annoyed I'd be like oh why isn't it happening I'm like there's a reason I fuck knows what it is but like I'll wait and see and if it doesn't become clear immediately I'm like oh well by the time that it hasn't become clear I've got over the annoyance so it's fine like you know what I mean like it's like oh I'm annoyed that I can get a parking space I'm like oh I probably needed to do the walk yeah you do get over things quite quickly me incredibly quickly

like within a matter of second it's actually horrible whiplash central yeah so that's yeah oh my god I don't even know how we got here well what are you supposed to do with your life yeah like how you're meant to know what you're supposed to do with your life

trust the process babes trust the process trust in the words of Adele she said a lot of good shit trust the process did you know all our glamping units have a resort quality Canadian-made and eco-friendly bed.

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Are you ready? She's cut her ears off. She doesn't want to hear anything else. She's cut her ears off. I love that. So bad that it doesn't suffice for me to just not listen to podcast anymore, or even just this podcast. I'm just going to cut my ears off and there we are.

I'm van goffing these bitches, I'm done. Thing is, even if you cut your ears off, you'd still be able to hear, wouldn't you? Because you've still got the hole and that's where it comes from, isn't it? Right, so now we've just, like, we've just... Butchered, literally, butchered. Okay. But she can still fucking hear of some poor woman. Hi, ladies.

I finally found out how to email. Is that how we change? So I'm copying this over from Instagram. I must have read that right. I think emailed us, I think maybe realizing that we have an email address. I don't think we've just ripped this woman into the 21st century. I was like, sure. I mean, come on.

Okay, right. So she's found out how to email. Well done. First of all, love the podcast. Love listening to Em and Alex's stories when I'm running. The one about Alex taking Betty to the vet had me laughing so much. I had to stop running and was stood laughing. to myself like a weirdo as people

pass this. She's put in quote marks this dog. I just wanted to get in touch to say thank you so much for the podcast. It's literally changed my life. I listened to the interview with Benita Norris, one of the best interviews we've done. Yeah. Absolutely incredible woman. I was so inspired I shortly after read her book.

Shortly after that, I saw an advert for a job in Antarctica. I've always dreamed of going to Antarctica, but I was hesitant to apply as I just thought so many people would apply and I never get the job, so it wasn't worth my time. But after listening to the interview with Benita and then reading her book, it really gave me the determination to apply. Someone had to get the job, so why not me? So I applied, but I didn't get the job. Okay. I'm just kidding, she did. I'm just like, imagine if that's how it ended, but I didn't get the job. And I got the

job. I'll be part of an all-female team heading to Antarctica this November, which weirdly the news has been posting about. So basically, thank you for interviewing inspirational women and sharing the interviews with us. If I hadn't listened to the podcast and heard your chat with Benita, I probably would never have applied and wouldn't be going to Antarctica. Thank you. How can you not believe in fate? Keep up the great work on the pod and congratulations to M and her Alex on their incredible news. Thanks, babes. And thanks for the validation. Fate exists. She was supposed to listen to that podcast. How cool. That, stunning. Isn't that cool? Isn't that cool?

Beat. Got the universe is magic. Also, wow, going to Antarctica. I say it's so cold. Whereabouts is that? Right at the bottom. You're no simple way to remember this. I can't believe I don't even laugh at you for these questions anymore.

I just answer them. Arctic on the top, Antarctica on the bottom. That's not a stupid question. Like, how are you supposed to remember the difference? I'm about to explain to a way you to remember it. Arctic is the longer word. So the longer one would be heavier. If you put it in a thing of water, it would sink because it's the longer word.

I will actually always remember that now. You're welcome. I should honestly I should be a teacher for like really stupid people because I've got really great ways of remembering really basic stuff I like that

yeah thank you so much yeah it's a big word yeah it's the longer words on the Baltic yeah I'm floating in Antarctica Arctic yeah there you go okay I mean I would go to the Arctic

simply because it's closer are they both very cold yeah they're both very very cold as each other I'd say because they're equidistant away from the equator aren't they yeah Quater's in the middle. Yeah.

Same again. Tropic of Cancer on the top. Tropic of Capricorn on the bottom. Longer words on the bottom. Yeah, there go. Yeah. So where's Greenland? Top.

Up. So you want to know another fun fact about the world. Iceland and Greenland. Greenland is much, much icier and snowier than Iceland. It's predominantly white because obviously it's covered in snow. Whereas Iceland is quite a green country. So they really should have been called the other one. They should have been.

Greenland should be called. called Iceland and Iceland should be Greenland. Because whenever I see Iceland on Instagram, people always go. And it looks amazing, but it never looks very icy. It's amazing. One of my mum's best friends is Icelandic, oddly. And she goes in all the time to stay with him. And it's so cool.

And I've been to stay, and he lives in Reykfick in the middle of the town. And they do this thing called the Airways Festival. And it's just like, oh, it's so cool. It looks so nice. Apparently it's really expensive there, right? Yeah, it's incredible because they have to import everything. Yeah, they import everything. And they're super, like, they're just really good at handling shit.

Like, even their horses that you can't import animals from anywhere else. So, like, they all have, like, their, like, their illnesses, but, like, no other illnesses. Like, does that make sense? Yeah, yeah. It's a very, like, insular place. Unrelated. My friend went to Barbados for a wedding, and I just caught up with her last night. And because everything is imported there as well, she tried to buy a bottle of Whispering Angel.

Guess how much it was? £40. £70. Love to see it. I don't know how much Whispering Angel is in real life, but... Probably about £40, actually. I don't know. Oh.

I thought it was just, like, a bottle of Rose. No. Oh, is it post-off? Oh, then... Oh, then... Oh, well, you can clearly tell I do not drink. I've been out of the game for a while. I don't know.

Yeah, and I think if you went to a restaurant, you'd probably pay about 40 for a whispering angel. Do you know anything about wine? I feel like I actually don't know this about you. No, not a fucking thing. Me neither. I feel like a massive... I feel like an absolute idiot

when anyone asks me about wine. Because I tell you what, when I was 13, my friend Flora and I, teen drinking is very bad okay just a precursor to this but me and my friend flora drank we shared a bottle of her mum's eminette's cooking wine

that sounds disgusting it's like red isn't it yeah red wine it's for cooking and we drank it and she was sick all over her mum's cream carpet and I still remember the smell of her red wine sick

and I can still remember her mum coming down the stairs just go oh Flora what have you done I still every time I look at a glass of red wine I just think of her mum just being like what have you done and I just like I haven't got it in me now so I've never been able to drink red wine I don't know why I'm going to so proudly

admit this so openly and publicly but I think if you blindfolded me and I tried one white one rosé I honestly wouldn't be able to tell the difference I don't actually think I know the difference between white and rosé I think red wine and I'm really happy that we don't drink it because I always, when people get drunk on red wine

and then they have red wine teeth and I just think like, ugh. It really does knock me actually. It really goes to me. I'm particularly at this time of my life where I'm obviously not drinking and people come up with it and then they've got like little gravestone teeth

because they're all grey. And it's all in the crevices of their lips as well. This is not good. I don't like that. I don't want to hear what you have to say right now because you're going to say it to me with a breath that I'm just not ready for. White wine, you can be absolutely shit face

and no one to know. Rosie, I like, you know, I like rosé, I like white wine. I get very bad heartburn from white wine. So you can't have like, I know, I know that I can't have a servion blanc. I know a Shabbly's better. That's what I know for Heartburn. My mum taught me that. Okay.

Or a chardonnay. No, not a chardonnay. Shabbly is the best for heartburn. I actually can't drink any wine without having my metpresol actually, but if I do have a me metapal, I can. Actually, I'm very basic because Prosecco is the best for me. Agree. Or champagne.

If you fancy, if you fancy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Actually, I prefer the taste of Prosecco champagne. That's good. Yeah. I like sweetness, basically. So like, why, if I'm having a glass of wine, I know this is sacriage. Again, I shouldn't be proud of this. I love pudding wine. But I put, I put lemonade in my wine. I know this is so bad. I do. I do. I do. I know. But I know, but I know. But I don't need an expensive wine. You know, like, obviously, because I don't want to ruin everyone, you know, but, yeah. I'll just get, like, a bottle of the 40-quid whispering angel and pours a spite into the top of it. but um interesting we'll never go to a wine bar it's like a spritz right a wine spritz right a wine spritz right i like a glass of wine though i feel classy as hell i am not going to be ashamed about this actually because sangria exists i don't even i don't think i've ever had a sangria exists i like a cider i want a cider if i go to the pub and i'll have a glass of white wine at someone's house so a glass of rosé in the summer cider tastes like pop that's the thing it tastes like apple pop it tastes like apple pop yeah i oh i could have killed the cider this summer

oh cider is good you can have a cider now can you I wouldn't I don't think I don't know I think you can like when you get to a point in your pregnancy you can have like a drink yeah people keep old people keep asking me if I'm drinking like I keep saying like loads of like my parents friends or like friends parents they're like you drinking at the moment and I'm like no no I'm not no I'm not and they kind of give you like a sad look and also to be honest I'm like last night I had a pizza and I just came up my nose

you know just I can't keep anything down I just don't the alcohol is going to... What, that was the... I think it's going to last a minute. It stung. That's what I did. It stung. You threw that one out there.

It stunk. It stung. Oh, it stung. Stinging out. Eyes watering. I know. It's so bleak. It's just...

I'm so sick of it. But what are you going to do? Okay, okay, I've got little, like, is it just me? Like a little fun, easy one. Okay. Hi, love the pod, of course. I've listened to every episode

and each one is so insightful and relatable. Is it just me, or is just being in a lift the most awkward and embarrassing thing ever? The most... The most awkward is when it's just you and one other person. The cringy small talk of what floor you are going to

then standing in silence while praying at her result. This woman does not live in London. You're talking about what floor you go to. Yeah. Then when you get out, do you say bye? It feels like I should. I spent the journey staring at their shoes anywhere but looking at them in the face. But then it feels rude not to say bye. I'm

cringing just thinking about being in a lift. Ah, she uses my ARG-H. I have no idea why, but I also find this embarrassing and lots of my friends listening so please keep me in on or just my first name ha ha ha I don't like all right Claire I don't like being in a lift with your friend like if you and I are in a lift and there's someone else because I'm super aware of our conversation yeah yeah we get dead quiet yeah yeah you just go like really silent because it's just like even if you're talking about like

literally nothing it's just and you can't maintain a normal volume because you're in such a small space I am that awkward person who if it's just if it's me and one other person I have to acknowledge and I have to make some kind of awkward, small talk. No, I don't want to be acknowledged at all. I am so British, I'll literally be like, oh, so, well, it's bad, in it? Oh, it's hot today. Oh, it's hot today, isn't it? Oh, it's hot, it's hot, isn't it? I don't tell them that, and they just know that you're sweating, ugh. I'd be like, oh, who is this fucking, like, sweaty beast that just got in the lift with me?

I can not acknowledge. Oh, no, I don't want a single bit of acknowledgement. When I went, can I just say, when I went from my, when you, when you're pregnant, my first, scan, like early, like, I quite remember how early it was, but it's before you told people, I went to the doctor, went to the hospital, where I was having, to register the baby at the hospital. And I got to the hospital and I got in the lift and my fucking neighbour, Chad, got in the lift as well. And he just looked to me and he went, are you pregnant? And I was like, yes, Chad. But like, Chad, Jesus. You should have fucking asked that. So I was like, yes. And then we literally just stood in silence the whole way up to the maternity floor. I mean, what are the chances?

But like, so annoying. And that was the only conversation I've had in a lift. in years, and it was awful. This is the most miserable man I've ever known. He's just moved back to Australia. He was e-or. I've never known anybody like it. It was so grumpy. I would say anything cheery to him,

which I try. I really fucking tried. I'd be like, oh, Chad, your garden looks nice. And he'd be like, thanks, but there's actually no slugs in it. I was like, all right, never mind then. And then it'll be like, oh, I like, when we moved, I was like, I love this street.

And he was like, it's not that nice. Someone came down it with a machete a few months ago. And it's like, all right, fucking hell. Jesus Christ. I think someone could make a good TV series out of him. Yeah, I think you and him. Yeah, we do well together. Side note, do you know how many people, I forgot to tell you this,

when you announced your pregnancy, do you know how many people asked me if I knew? What was it if I just hadn't to, surprise Al, putting on Instagram? Yeah, they're like, did you know? And I was like, she's halfway through. Also, she told me on the day she found out. That's hilarious. Yeah, no, I'm just keeping it a secret from, how?

Imagine. I was just like surprised at how many people thought that it was like not reasonable but like just viable that I wouldn't know maybe they don't think we're in like a real friendship we're just like the producers have just put us together do you know what I mean this is like Simon Cowles just put us together and we don't talk outside of those we're like one direction yeah we only get together when it's contractual it really made me laugh I was like yeah I had a clue I had an ink clue

that she gave herself away um yeah and being in the lift is fucking awful but I just I literally, it's a point of resilience, I think. Absolutely. To just don't acknowledge anything. Stone cold silence. Absolutely. I don't want to smile. Where's your heart?

Absent. Where's your British heart? I don't, I think Londoners have different hearts to British people. Like, I think we're just slightly, I think there's, because, well, Alex, my Alex isn't British. He's a fucking chatty, Kathy. I tell you, everybody, he's been down our neighbour's house, four doors down. She can come aboard instructor.

She lives alone. He's a writer over on Saturday night. I'm like, why Saturday night? Oh no, that's not fun. He talks to everyone. That's really not a fun. I know, and I was like, why not last night? Like we already had Georgie over last night.

We were having pizza, it's Wednesday, you know what I mean? Oh my God, Saturday. I know, brutal. So he's a chatty and a lift type. Hi, what are you going? I'm like, why'd you care, babe, why'd you care? I get on the butt, I want to stop you go, why do you care?

I didn't know what, like, someone, the first time someone spoke, when I first moved back to London after school, like my first job here. I was on the tube at like 18. And someone on the tube station, I used to work in Victoria, tap me on the shoulder to ask me directions. And I screamed. I was so horrified. That's quite shocking. At having been touched on the underground, I was like, get off. It does feel so jarring when someone actually is talking to you and you're like, what is going on? I look too comfortable on the tube. I know I look like I know what I'm doing

because I get asked directions at least five times a day. I do try and, I do try and smile at like women on the tube. I think it's because I don't smile that they know that I'm a Londoner. Like yesterday twice, after we recorded, I got asked at all Oxford Street the way to somewhere. How do they know? Of course they know. I'm not smiling at them. I'm not looking at them.

I'm barging paths. I'm practically pushing children in front of buses. I'm like, get out of my way. So, yeah, I don't know. You've got to be brutal. You've got to be officious. No time for anyone. She's been left.

Side note, I love that her friends listen to the podcast as well. I know. I always think if people ask, like, random weirdos to listen, like on their own. It's like a kind of a not a guilty pleasure. It's just a guilty. It's just guilt. I don't know. Just guilt.

My favorite thing is when somebody sends me my own post and then they go, oh, shit, sorry, that was meant for a friend. And I'm like, what were you saying about it? Yeah, I don't like that. In my head, I'm hoping they're just like, oh, babes, I hope you saw this. Like, love her, but it probably is. It's probably just like, oh, this is what we were talking about earlier, how shit does that hair look and sometimes you get those messages as well this is like this is what we're talking about earlier and I'm like what were you talking about earlier and then I just think

don't tell me ignorance is bliss baby ignorance is bliss yeah wait you think people do it on purpose some or yeah or like sometimes I've had a few DMs where people be like say something not that nice and then be like oh sorry I meant to send it to a friend it's yeah yeah I can't even think of an example now and I'm always just like I just because there is an unsend function and just unsend the message and I'll never have known about it. I think that's quite funny. I just feel for those people,

I'm just like, I know that there's this woman right that absolutely hates me. Like I just know that there's this woman that follows me that absolutely loads me. Really? And this morning I put a spelling mistake up and I was like, oh, she hates when I make a spelling mistake.

She hates it. She annoys her so much. And then I was like, and I used to me before, I was like, I should probably let me, the spelling better so she doesn't get annoyed. And now I'm like, well. Loll. Like, fuck it.

I'm like, how fun for you. You just get to spend your day being annoyed or like anyone that's like pass ag and the DMs, I'm just like, weird use of energy, bro. But okay. Yeah, yeah. So let them, let them send it back to you. Let them, let them hate your shit.

You're good for your engagement. It is good for engagement. Yeah, thanks for engaging. Yeah, thanks for raising me, raise me up. Oh, call, sing us out, sing us out. So I can stand on mountains. I'm not singing with her. Come on.

Don't make me do this. After three, all of us. One, two, three. You, oh, guys. Jen's pretending not to know what's going on She's got mic put in front of you as well Okay We're loving and leaving you

Farewell Can we make a camera thing How's it say How's the song go The one in So long Farewell Avita say

Good night It's sad to go And leave the sorry side Doodoo do do do do do do do do do do do You want to go from the beginning? Get around the top. You've got to get from the top. Okay, from the top.

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