Should I Delete That? - Is It Just Me: The Mannersphere

Episode Date: February 15, 2024

On this week's IIJM, the girls discuss manners, parenting styles and the patriarchy...Follow us on Instagram @shouldideletethatEmail us at [e-mail] by Daisy GrantMusic by Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello and welcome back to Should I Delete That. I'm Em Clarkson. I'm Alex Light. Are you all right, Al? No, I would like to start this episode actually on a rant. Oh. Mm-hmm. Okay.

About manners. Oh. And specifically, humanity losing them slowly, but shortly. We're in the studio today. I went to the Lou just before. And there was a man. I was walking up. to a door. There was a man behind me on his phone and I opened the door and then I waited for

him. It was that awkward in between length and it's like, you're not that close. Yeah, oh, he was not jogging. So I stood there and kept the door open for him and he just walked straight through, straight past me, head down, still on his phone and just walked off into the distance. Didn't thank you? Nope. Should have choked him up. What to what? Interesting. I know. Do you not think people get ruder? I think people get considerably less aware. like while he's on his phone. But then what? Does he like,

does he live like in the future where all the doors just open for him? Magically. Yeah. Either that or in the past where he's got like loads of like servants at home that open them all for him. I mean maybe he's doing something really important but whatever doesn't it?

No, but like I feel like even if you're doing like the, okay, I just feel like you, I don't know, I was going to say you're never doing anything that important. But then the people that are doing things that important are probably like sitting down to do it. Do you know what I mean? Like they're not just like scooting to the loo.

Right. He wasn't in a road. either. He wasn't like, oh fuck, got somewhere to be. Yeah, my wife's in labour. Right, no, no. I've got no time to find the heavily pregnant woman holding open the door. He was just wondering. Just wonder, meandering through. Maybe you're invisible to him. I was like, you know, when it wants he gone, I was like, I should have, I should have said you're welcome. Yeah. Do you not do that? I do that. I do that every single day without fail. I do, I do, I do think you're right. It's like, it's like people

aren't aware. Yeah, when I, when I, when I have the buggy, I have been pushed. into traffic, into puddles. Like, people could not give less of a park. Yeah, what's it like with the buggy? You are, for the most part, invisible. Really? Or an inconvenience. Yeah. So I just thank people once they've gone. Like, it happens in the park every day. I'll be walking with Arlo in the buggy

and I'll literally be pushed into the biggest puddle. Or I'll just have to stop and I go, you're welcome. I don't care if Alex's always cringes. But I'm like, hello? Like, it costs nothing. It costs literally nothing. It doesn't give me a little smile. To be kind to you. I know. But yeah, I mean, there's glimmers of joy with a buggy because sometimes, like, at your most desperate, like, I went to a train station the other day. I live kind of equidistant between two train stations and I always go to one just because lines better, it's busy. I'm probably a bit close to that. But there's another one, like not too far away. And I could be on the same train line as Georgie if I went home on it. So I was like, oh, I'll just go back with you. We've been at an event. I had the big buggy. When I've got the duna, it's all right, the little one, because I can carry it with one hand because I'm so strong. tank yeah but when i've got the big buggy there's just no way like i just you can't carry it on

your own no i don't think even alex would be able to definitely not with a baby in it um and i got to the station and i got to the platform and there was no lift and i was like oh my god like i what do i do it's like a dead sink it was like no one there and then this guy appeared thank god with his son and he literally he was like come on then let's go to me like with the buggy and he's like i had twins i know i know i know i know i know you're dealing with. And actually, twin dads have been my saving grace. Really? I've had three twin dads. The last few months be like, don't worry, my wife have had twins. And it's like maybe they really, they know the struggle. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But like, do people generally help you? No.

No. It's so crazy, isn't it? Yeah. People, people, well, yeah, people, I don't know. I mean, no. Old women are often incredibly helpful. Like a 70-year-old woman the other day was like at least 70, probably close to 80s. She was like, let me help. And I was like, I, oh my God. The only people offering me a seat now have been older women. And I'm like, no, but I don't want to take your seat. It might be because they're the only people not on their phones.

Quite possibly. Do you think we just live in the, it's this, the dystopping future? They shouldn't be the ones giving up their seats or helping. I know, I know. It should be the young strapping lads. Yeah, I know. If you didn't get cancelled for it, would you advocate for chivalry just being, just up forever and just like men continuing to like do nice things for women yeah yeah they can

hold the door open yeah because i i i do i do i do find it a bit of a i i know this is very bad but i do find it a bit of an ick when a guy is just like like steams ahead of a woman like in front of you like in a door or something or when they're not chivalrous yeah yeah do you know what mean yeah I find that a little bit like I don't know I know I know no I'm the same I'm the same because like whenever I watch the wife's cat wife carrying the bags I'm like sir there's million reasons why he's probably not carrying the bag maybe yeah including the fact that he's a prick I don't know it's really interesting isn't it because we were at a point where we've really got to like challenge our like our biases and what we like think men should be doing

versus if they have to do all of that chivalry and come home and do cooking and cleaning and work you know like are we asking them to just do like but then also but like if Dave didn't offer to carry my bag like my big bag so say we're going to the airport with a big bag and a little bag if he didn't offer to carry the big bag

even though usually the big bag's mine it doesn't really make sense he's so much stronger than me and bigger physically so I don't know I'd find that Weird. But then, by the same token, it's like, well, your hands are so much smaller so they can fit in the sink better to do the washing up.

Do you know what I mean? Like, where's the like other side of it? Well, actually, he's much better at cleaning and washing up than I am. Where do you excel household chore-wise? I'm the organiser. Are you? Yeah. Like, I've got everything on like, I'll make sure everything's stocked and everything is decluttered

and like I'll do the, like, he does the cleaning. I do like, he'll just like leave plates out and, you know, know we have dinner and then he'll be like let's just chill before we could tidy up and I'm like no I've got to go tidy up okay I'm like the I keep I keep it running order but he keeps it clean I don't know it's difficult but that's nice his teamwork makes a yeah yeah yeah it works yeah it is interesting isn't it like I don't know I always try and work out because Alex is like such a gent like you'd always carry anyone's bags or help anyone with anything you know he's a real like old school gent but then it's like I don't know you just see that they're not all

men on the internet being like, fine, well, I won't hold the door open for you, any horrible feminist. And I'm like, I don't know what I want. It is conflicting, actually, though, isn't it? Oh, no, I definitely want that, though. Want them to hold the door open? Yeah. But you'd want anyone to hold the door open? Yes, yeah. You'd want me to hold the door open for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's just human courtesy. And you'd want, I don't want a man to stand up for me on the train. I just want somebody, as you know, not for me, but for you, for a pregnant person. Yeah. Like, I wouldn't want an old man to stand up.

for me over an old woman no but I'd rather a young man stood up for me than a young woman why yeah I don't know I don't know it just feel like the I don't know the woman might be tired wearing heels I don't know I guess you presume that I don't know if that's actually really bad they're women are weaker yeah yeah it's really interesting but then I also think we kind of are physically yeah so then that's kind of like and I keep realizing this is like as a woman and as a mother where it's like you can't do everything so then what do like what do you do and it's I don't know I find like gender we all want to do everything right like we all want like we want our men like cooking and cleaning and working and being like attentive dads but

also like kind of manly and like we want we want them doing loads of stuff and we want women doing loads of stuff too like we want us to be in the workplace and with babies and doing all the cooking and the cleaning and the you know what I mean like because we're all doing everything I don't know how evenly it does balance I mean it doesn't because we're still within a completely patriarchal society that yeah does enable well if you take paternity leave for an example you've only got men have only got two weeks at standard whereas women have nine months right so it's going to fall disproportionately so maybe if that should changed, which is something that my Alex keeps talking about

and saying that that's so important. Definitely. But like if that changed but we all got six months, do you think it would like level it all? Like, do you, will it ever be 50-50 or we just? I don't think so. Especially not, you realize like things like when you get pregnant, it's, it's, of course it's completely skewed towards the woman,

everything, you have to do all the midwives appointment. It's like, you have to be there. You very much got to be there. I have to be there. You know, even like the health visitor appointment on the phone, Dave doesn't have to be there for that. He's not asked to be there for that. They call me.

They email me. They don't email me. I don't email it. I don't know. It's interesting. But I do tend to think that, actually I don't know if I think this. I just guess this is how it works in our household, is that it works out evenly. And actually, we've based everything that we do for, like, around the house on each of the strengths.

Yeah. So it ends up working out. And I do think it's pretty equal. but it's not traditionally equal it's not like gender it's not like set out according to like gender

roles because obviously in the olden days if like just the man was working it did make sense that the woman did like the homework you know that's the kind of the split

but it's difficult now like women work too it's like but we do still kind of have this like undercurrent of expectation that women will do the housework I feel so much guilt

when I don't feel like I've pulled my weight around the house. Do you? So much guilt. And I know it's all like patriarchal stuff. Yeah. Like, and I, like, I need so much validation from Alex that like I'm not a waste of space. Like, with like what I'm doing.

I'm like, oh my God, you've cooked dinner and now you're cleaning it up and like. Yeah. And I get so much guilt. If he's cooked and cleaned dinner, I'm like, oh my God. And he's like, no, you're going to be up feeding the baby in a minute. Go up and wash your face. Like, go to bed. It's fine.

Totally. And it's like, I'll be feeding. Arlo to sleep. Don't come for me. Mums, because I know that that's not the best sleep practice, whatever. But I'll be feeding Arlo to sleep and then I put her down. And then when I come down, he's normally made dinner. And I get so much guilt about it. And I'm like, no, it's fun. I was doing something too. But I was also lying on TikToks whilst feeding her. So then I'm like, oh, God, I'm lazy. It's so weird, isn't it? Just to put your headphones in. No, she doesn't care. She didn't care. Fine. I've just realized that I'm the same because I was like, oh, no, I don't

feel good and then I'm like oh no if Dave cooks I feel like I have to clean up yeah it's weird isn't it and I can't not help him no but even if I cook myself I can't not clean up oh I can I don't eat cold dinner and I want to sit and digest my food afterwards but like I don't you mean I mean I've been down to a messy kitchen no but I mean I wouldn't be like I've made dinner I wouldn't be like right and Dave goes off to to clean it I'd have to go with him and help him I really yeah so you wouldn't just be able to like sit next door no no no I've got better since having had a baby where I'm like, Alex is like, no, you're exhausted, you just go and sit down and just do napping.

And I'm like, oh my God for that. Or I have to work, which is normally what I have to do. It's like just go and sit down and do your job because, you know, he can just sit and do it all the time and I can't. That totally makes sense. Yeah. But even though, like, rationally, if I spell it all out and I like, if I did like a time sheet, like hour, hour of like who's doing what,

it would probably be equal. The guilt I feel when I'm not doing something just kills me. It's so weird, isn't it? It is weird, isn't it? but I feel like that's all patriarchal shit and probably comes from our parents as well yeah and what we like watch and what we absorb like yeah my mum did all the cooking and cleaning and stuff

so it's like that's what I'm used to seeing yeah same and then also my dad's very like don't be lazy don't be lazy don't be lazy yeah so I think that's drilled in as well yeah so I feel like Dave's going to like just I don't know have you thought about like having your kid like the kind of manners and like I don't know

I want to be really careful that if I have a boy I raise them exactly the same as I raise Arlo that's so hard though isn't it? So hard that's going to be my life's honestly my life strife if I find out I'm having a boy in the future to make sure that they are treated exactly equally by both of us

is going to be like that'll be my Everest that would be really hard I think that's like if I feel like in this world that we live in it would be like almost impossible. Do you think? I think so. Why so?

Just because of external. I mean, but I guess you can control the household to an extent. But there's so many external factors, isn't there? You need everybody cooking, everybody cleaning. Yeah. Yeah. Shared responsibility. Yeah.

But I don't know, like, when do I start teaching Arlo to load the dishwasher? When do I teach her to make her to tidy her own room and to change her own sheets? And like, do you know what I mean? Yeah. I said to Jen the other day, so my nephew's two. And I said to Jen the other day, I was like, I was just thinking in the middle of the night that you really need to start teaching Louis about consent.

Like I said, you need to start pulling his weight around the house. She was like, it's, I, really? He's two. And I was like, it's never too early. And I was like, when do you start with all this stuff? Well, I need to start teaching Arlo about consent. She really comes on enthusiastically. Oh, you're going to.

She met a little girl called Siena. day in the soft play, grabbed one pig tail in each hand and just pulled. I was like, oh, no. She loves other kids so much and like, oh, you're going to come on strong. That picture of her where she looks like she's body slammed the other kid.

I know, she does. She just gets so excited. I didn't know their own strength. She takes them out. Yeah, she needs some consent lessons. Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's like, do we start now? We to learn gentle hands. Do you want to come over and do that.

I do say gentle hands all the time. But I just think to that the booer. Kind down, can't, can't, kind down. Oh. But I just, I think it's really. interesting this like I don't know like how you you unpatriarchy your own life in the context of your own households yeah yeah and we probably have a million blind spots yeah well the fact that we we feel guilt oh my god have you seen that meme I keep seeing it on the internet and it's like

I've never known a peaceful woman like I know successful women I know happy women I know hardworking women but I've never seen a peaceful one and I'm like oh my god yeah I can't find the exact quick but then you think about all that stuff and it's like what about the like expression's like oh girls mature faster than boys and it's like do they I don't actually know that yeah do they so I'm like because I feel like I'm going to perpetuate that do you know what I mean yeah and maybe that's not that's not helpful it's definitely not helpful because it just makes girls so it makes girls responsible for everything it makes girls responsible for boys

oh he's only kissing you because he's only been mean to you because he likes you know he's only you have to show him you have to teach him you have to guide him you know more than him he's only doing this because he's immature alleviates boys of responsibility 100% which and just by virtue of doing that you're just placing it on girl it's got to go

somewhere yeah it descends up on girls shoulders like I know like you know we'd always say that in the podcast but being like the oldest daughter but it's like I've got to do my utmost to make sure that Arlo doesn't have that. Just this intense pressure. Yeah. To like look after everything.

Were you always the serious one? Yeah. I've got sillier as I've got older. Have you? Yeah. So much sillier. Yeah. I think I didn't feel like I was allowed to be silly

because I had to like keep everybody in check. Yeah. And check like everyone was alive still. Yeah. Have you seen the video that's like the eldest daughter? she's like going around the house checking her family's all breathing like that was that's you that's actually me i used to stand at my mum and dad's door and like check for chest

rising oh my god your life is so tiring do they give you reason to think that maybe am i a hang on am i a bad daughter i think you're a bad elder's daughter yeah i didn't do that i was seen those we used to lock after you in her bedroom not my sisters I trusted them to keep breathing but like I don't know it's just like

Do you think it was because you thought if your parents died it would all be on you I think it was mostly my mum I was scared about I don't know because I was so like obsessed with her and I was just like terrified I was totally obsessed you all your mind

I know obsessed and I was just terrified that anything was going to happen to her and it felt like all my responsibility and I had all these like little like rituals that I had to do to make sure I think. Are you okay?

Yeah, no, I'm all right now. Are you sure? This is a lot of therapy later. Yes, good I say. But I was not a good little child. Were you stressed? It was very stressed. But that seems like what I've heard about your education

because you said that you didn't like go and you didn't, you did your homework really last minute and stuff. Yeah, I wasn't that concerned about stuff like that. You just focused on home? So like what happens if your friends were like having parties and stuff, would you rather have to have been at home? Checking your mom was still breathing. to go, but I, this is so deep and sad.

I wanted to go, but I also wanted to be at home and mom, so I'd have to, like, balance the two. How do you think, when you have a kid? Like, you'll... I don't want to, I want to be, I want, like, a really secure attachment style. Yeah. So that there was secure in, like, the attachment with me and with Dave,

and secure enough to go off and come back. And do their own thing, and know that they can come back and everything will be the same and okay. Yeah. That's what I would love. I think that's why this kind of generational stuff breaks a bit is it's like we can be more,

more aware of what we want. Like we've got the language. We've got the language. That's how you break it. Yeah. Like I didn't, because sometimes I say it off to my mom and she's like, what? Like if I talk about like co-sleeping or like,

yeah, there are certain things. And she's like, I know what you mean. Like all these things have words. I know what they mean, but I've never heard them before. Right. And that is like, everyone says, oh, we're too woke now. We think too, we think too much. We feel too much. We overanalyze everything on our feelings. It's like, no, it's actually so good. And like all the therapy that I've had a lot of therapy. And it's been like, like, incredible. I would never have even known what like a secure attachment start, like anything like that. I don't really know what it is. I haven't really explored. I don't really do therapy like that. Like I've never done like backwards therapy, like dealing with any of my stuff. like I'm practical in like what I've wanted out of I have I've had I never got on with therapy I tried therapy a lot but I just never really got on with it whereas with coaching I found it which has been my form of therapy like I found it a lot more like helpful but particularly

with Jacqueline none of that was going backwards like she's like I don't really care why you got to where you are the fact is this is where you are so that's just like work out going forward which definitely works for me like I don't want to go and unpick all my shit but I think with yeah like that having that language yeah it's kind of what my mom was saying about like not entirely knowing what it means but it's like yeah that sounds about right do you know what I mean like that's kind of what I'm like aiming towards and it's kind of more I don't know validating and it's like more acceptable that you're allowed to parent in other ways do you know what I mean and like have a boundary on like what you want to do and like I don't know do you know what I mean I feel like there's

only one way before. I feel like our mum's generation feel a slightly defensive about that and defensive about the new parenting techniques and ways that we parent now. Yeah. My mum's actually been amazing. Like I thought, because my mum's a Gemini. So I thought because Gemini's can be slightly no at all. So I kind of thought my mum might be like, and she hasn't been at all. That's great. And she's made a really conscious effort to be like, you do you, you do you, which I've really appreciated and because none of my friends really have kids or like I'm making more friends now but I was kind of the first I didn't have people telling me that I was doing it wrong and I don't share all over on the internet so that helps because then so I kind of felt like

mostly probably like yeah yeah kind of safe to work out what's comfortable for us but I feel the same but yeah about the secure attachment thing like oh god it's killing me like with childcare starting like I'm so like it's so necessary it has to It has to happen. It has to happen. I work. Like I have to be realistic. But what she's so hard. I have fun with other adults. I cried yesterday. I saw a photo of her having so much fun and I was like, as she should be. And then I was like text with my friend Sophie sobbing. So I was like, but she's having fun with someone that isn't me. That is hard though. And that is always going to be a hard transition. But I can't show her that. I can't show her that I'm sad

that she's happy because that's how she ends up with the weird mum complex where she has to come home and make sure your mom's okay just like out yeah yeah like yeah I need to show her yeah my mom's always made a really big effort even while she's been on her own yeah that she's fine on her own and she says it to me all the time fine on my own fine on my own happy on my own yeah and it's only in recently as I started actually believing her yeah should have taken because I couldn't perceive I couldn't because I was so needy I couldn't understand that anyone would be happy on their own yeah and now I'm like oh yeah okay fair enough that makes sense good for you I'll leave you be yeah that's but I need to show all that that that's that's

That's so true, yeah. That's so true that you can't express that. Oh, I'm so happy for you. Can't be sassy. I'm so happy if you're having fun with your friends. I'm like, you're a baby. Obviously, I want you to have, I want, and that is what I know. Don't get passive aggressive towards Arlo.

Yeah, but I stayed. I hope you had a great time. Yeah, I saw those smiles. Oh, come and crying back to me now, are you? Why don't you get Danielle to change your naffy? Exactly. Oh, yeah, but you're loving all of them. Yeah, how many people have seen your bomb today?

Oh, no, it's so sad. I have to, yeah. And I guess that's what, like, that's what is, is, like, you should lean on your support system for that so that you can protect all over that. Yeah, I have to take that shit to my friends. Yeah, this is why I've been friends are so, like, mum friends has been important to me.

Because they get it. Because they get it. Yeah. And people are going through it at the same time. Like, that's got to be, like, crazy helpful. Yeah. There's just some niche things that come up. I'm like, holy shit.

I had no. idea this would hurt my feelings but this is what I'm saying about that yeah all the man is everything it's like you you've got to work out how to make a good person and you want to know something really weird think about how old you are now yeah how old is your mom when she had you 28 how you feel now going into parenting you haven't got a clue what you're about to do no not a clue your mom didn't have a clue with you no isn't that fascinating I know we look at our parents and we hold them up with these like I know absolutely like pinnacles of knowledge and everything And they went into it just as blind as we did.

Probably blinder, because we've got the internet. Yeah. They did. No? No, they didn't, did they? No, no, no. Well, it started in 1984, but not in the way that they would be using it. So no, they didn't have it.

I, and honestly, we've got so many gadgets and gizmos now to make our lives easier. They had none of it. No. No, when I pumped now, my mum's like, what the fuck? Like, with my tiny little Elvie, when the olden day, she'd be, like, literally, like, in a bar on outside. God, but you're saying like you've got to make a good human like that is so scary and I was thinking today in the middle of the night actually

because Betty had fucking diarrhea again fuck sake I was thinking like God I haven't really prepared like okay I've got time to prepare but like if I have a girl even though I do all this stuff in the body image space I will still be fucking clueless about how to bring them up with a really good body image

I've been doing affirmations to Lala since she was born that's great yeah I love that when Megan Lane does it with Esme I love that that's so lovely I just talk to her when I put her down at bed when I'm feeling her to sleep

when I'm not watching TikToks I say just I don't know I think I'm beautiful I'm loved I'm kind I'm supported and then when I put her down every night I just tell her she's not on her own I'm like you're not on your own

which is probably weird maybe I shouldn't be saying that but just and then I'm here if you need me I'm like I'm not far away you're not on your own like I don't want you just panic I don't want you know like that's nice

yeah yeah but then maybe but then maybe I'm projecting my own shit because the thing is whatever I do she will end up in therapy one day talking about me 100% 100%

that's this crazy thing and it'll be my fault at some point no matter how hard we try I know again so many blind spots there's so many blind spots I know but it's still worth trying probably

but even around food like I don't know like this we talked about this a few weeks ago about like and I maintain the advice but like being naked around her I think if you're having a girl

or even if you have any point. I think being naked around your kid is really important. Yeah, I think I'll find that quite hard, but yeah. Yeah. Like, Olo this morning came to me in the shower. I mean, she did not walk herself in. Alex walked her in when she was in the shower. She came to me. Yeah. Floated down. No, she was just like crawling around in the room or whatever and then was leaning up against the shower door. And it's like, I know she's too little now. But at a time, at a time she will remember this. She will be cognizant. She will have these memories. of my body, which I think is quite an important thing.

Definitely. Like, I don't want to hide it from her. Yeah. But fuck, like, even, like, if I find myself saying problematic stuff about food, I'm literally like, oh, like, I have to do, like... I know, I know, because, you know, that's the scary thing. Yeah, because I just don't want to, you know, like, yesterday I only ate bread all day. Like, no biggie.

It wasn't that, but I don't know what was going on with me. I just was really tired and I just fancied a baguette with butter. So I was a whole baguette with butter. Fuck, that sounds amazing. Although I had it for breakfast lunch and dinner, it was really bizarre. I know. And as I was doing it, I was like, but then I'd comment on it. And I'm like, don't comment on it.

But then if I don't comment on it, then she's just going to watch me eating a whole baguette and think that's normal. Something weird's happening. But that, and that's the thing, right? What do you do? It's, is, there's got to be balance as well. Yeah. You've got to teach them.

To eat nutrition. To eat nutrition. Yeah, don't eat a baguette. Yeah. We'll do what you want. It's so fucking hard. It's so fucking hard. And like, I still have these weird little things like left over from eating disorder days,

little quirks that I've got. But you also have. self-awareness in abundance. I do, that's true, that's true. So that's good. So does Dave, like, with me? He's like, don't do that. Well, that's good.

Alex does that with me. If I say something, like, if I'm like, because I'm also quite like self-deprecating, even as a joke, because I don't say that around her. Yeah, I like that. That's really nice. Yeah. But he always says it to me, if I say something mean about myself,

he says, stop talking about my wife like that. I like that. Yeah. That's really lovely. Yeah, I try and remember that with Arlo, because I'm like, yeah, she needs to like not be around that. For sure. teach them to say thank you when somebody holds the door open for them.

Yes. To offer up their seat on the train. This baby's kicking me a lot right now. The baby's kicking me. Yeah, I think it's saying like, hi, don't fuck me up. Oh, yeah. Please. You won't.

I don't think you will. I think we do have a lot of self-awareness. I think, I think we do. That's got to count for something. Look, we will always, parents will always pass shit down to their kids. but the fewer shit the less shit you can pass down the better the fewer shit the fewer shits no the less shit less shit less shit you can pass down the better it's less therapy less years of therapy only one year of therapy not too great fun fact just a way to remember the fewer and the less

thing go on someone that's yesterday you use you use fewer ironically if there's plural and you use less if there's just one. So it'd be like, she had fewer legs than her would be describing somebody with only one leg. But if you were saying, you need to have less leg on display, it would be like, stop wearing such short skirts. And they say we're not an educational podcast.

Not that you should be saying that to women. There you go. They should never have to have less leg on display. Like, have as much leg as you want. Yeah. Oh my God. Such a misogynist. I know.

I'm fucking my kid up. You've come full circle. My aspiration in life is to be able to afford whatever therapy she needs as a result of me. That's why I work so hard, sweetie. That's a good goal. I like that. Thank you so much. Thanks, guys.

We'll see you next week. See you on Monday. Bye. Thank you so much for listening. Should I delete that is part of the ACAS creator network.