Should I Delete That? - Is It Just Me: The reality of influencer events

Episode Date: October 17, 2024

This week - Alex has a fresh batch of beef with TikTok for uniniviting her to an event (AGAIN) - so we’ve decided to spill the tea on influencer events... is it all just posing for pics and not spea...king to each other? Em tells us the story of a rental handbag that came with a little extra suprise… and we’re also asking why people at weddings won’t explain the economy to us - and why can't they just print more money? If you have an Is It Just Me for us - email us on shouldideletethatpod@gmail.com! Follow us on Instagram:@shouldideletethat@em_clarkson@alexlight_ldnShould I Delete That? is produced by Faye Lawrence Music by Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome back to Should I delete that. I'm in Clarkson. Sorry, fuck, sorry. I'm Alex Lime. Who are you? Hello. Hello, hello, hello. How you doing?
Starting point is 00:00:16 I'm good. I'm good. Can I start? Oh no, you want to start? No, no, go, go, go. I've got stuff to get us three for days. I've got beef for TikTok. Oh, good.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Ongoing beef. Okay. Right? And the phrase, fool me once, does come to mind. But do you remember I got invited to something and then disinvited, a TikTok event and then disinvited? They've fucking done it again. They asked me to go to please attend RSVP to our UK Creator Summit. I was like, wow, cool.
Starting point is 00:00:43 No, you're falling for that shit. I did. I completely fell for it again. I RSVPed. They said, great, here are all the details. I then got an email. Hey, thank you for your interest in the upcoming Creator Summit. After reviewing your request to attend, we've noted that unfortunately,
Starting point is 00:00:59 this event is not suitable for you and therefore you will not be able to attend on this occasion. We appreciate your enthusiasm. Oh no! And we'll be sure to keep your mind for future events that are better aligned with you. Best TikTok UK team.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Enthusiasm is about as tragic a thing that can be observed. It's so bleak! We appreciate your enthusiasm. We know you really wanted to come. You're not desperate. But you can't. ah that's terrible for the second time i quit i'm leaving ticot that's it well they clearly don't want
Starting point is 00:01:35 you they don't care sorry this is that is that is ruthless now you and i have been in the game the social media game for a while yeah and you do at the beginning of your career have to hustle hustle yeah to get invited to stuff yeah like make a name for yourself meet other creators meet other people like it's a it's it's an arduous part of the job i think you might be there again and i think i think what's happened is you've got very comfortable with your half a mill on instagram you've enjoyed the the benefits and the privileges bestowed to you with the blue tick i've become complacent you have you're getting invites now they go you know they go through your management like you've leveled up and you've forgotten what it's like to be scrappy at the
Starting point is 00:02:25 bottom. And that is what TikTok's there to remind you. I am a small fish in a big pond. Stay humble. You're nothing to them. Yeah. They've reviewed you. Okay, you're making it worse. They've reviewed you and thought, you'll bring you down even for the, you are nothing. No, I am nothing. The good news is at least you got, at least you got asked to be interested. But why do they keep, why do they keep inviting me? Well, they're not, they're not inviting you. I think it's inviting you to be interested. But it doesn't say request to attend when they invite me. it says RSVP to attend. It's not, it's a cruel world, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:02:58 So I'm RSVPing, yes, then. You know what, I wasn't going to go anyway. No, well, why would you? In the tobacco dock, too far away. Also, a whole day event. I wasn't going to go, but I was happy to be invited. 100%. This is guestless culture.
Starting point is 00:03:13 This is like, this is the naughties. Again, this is. Exclusivity is king. 100%. I hate it. Well, for me personally, I agree. I can't think of anything worse than going to an exclusive event. Invited or not.
Starting point is 00:03:28 No, the either going to look nice, having my photos taken, having people want me there slash not want me there. I don't want anyone to have any reaction to me being there. Right. In any capacity. Do you know what I mean? Like, I don't want people to want me there and I don't want them to not walk me there. You want to slip under the radar.
Starting point is 00:03:44 I want to just not be there. Like, the NTAs to me, they look like the most stressful night of my life. Yeah. If I could plan the most stressful night of my life, it would be going to the NTAs. Don't remember I went to Glamour Women of the Year Awards and they made me do the red carpet and no one wanted to take my picture.
Starting point is 00:04:02 And I was on the red carpet at the same time in myling class and everybody wanted to take her picture. Obviously, she's mine in class. She's very cool. Not me. No. But the people at Clammer were like hyping me up. Like, go on, go on.
Starting point is 00:04:14 So I stood there while no one took my photo. And then I was just like, at what point do you like drop your arm that's on your hip and just like leave again? like walk off events should hire like one photographer who just politely takes a photo of everyone a token if you're going to get the camera can be empty i don't even care if you've not got a memory card in there just pretend to be interested for all our sakes yes please i went to oh god oh good let's spill let's spill the tea on the events that we like they're doing it i know what you're
Starting point is 00:04:43 going to say they like to know it yes oh my god it sounded well okay so so so now this was a big invitation for me, Billy Big Bollocks over here, who's never once done a fashion campaign. Like, I've never worked with like, yeah, you have. Okay, so no. You're a Sweaty Betty ambassador. Sweaty Betty's fitness. I got that. I'm not there for that. They, they haven't come to me being like, whoa, she's fashionable. Okay. They've come to me being like, she's, she's, she's fit. You wear leggings. Yeah, she's lazy and she doesn't dress much. Um, so, yeah, and then I work with like, Tog, 24 and I've, like, but they're on practical clothing. You know, they haven't come to me being like, hey Sophie Milner, like, hey Lorna Lox, hey fashion
Starting point is 00:05:24 easter. That's not why they come to me. They come to me being like, this is a practical gal. I hear you. She doesn't want to get her hair wet. You know what I mean? She likes stretchy clothing. Those are the brands that come to me.
Starting point is 00:05:34 So when Like to Know It, which is like the affiliate marketing, like it's a big deal in our industry. Very big deal. They're the original. They're the OG. So like I have a Like to Know It account. God, I remember applying for it back in the day. Did you shit yourself?
Starting point is 00:05:48 I did it. It was like waiting to see if I pass my A levels. I basically like to know it's a platform that creators can be on. I don't know what the criteria is now, but it used to be like you had to have 10,000 followers and anyway, you had to apply. It's like a certain level of influence. Yeah. Which is horrible.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Someone's deciding that about you. I know. I mean, our whole industry is disgusting. But anyway, you basically like to know it. It's like, it's a really good, I mean, it's a really good way for creators to make money. And I'm always really appreciative of it in lots of ways. And as a customer and as a creator, I think it's quite cool. But you can basically, like, I can find you the, if you asked what I was wearing,
Starting point is 00:06:22 I could find you the link to my boots, for example, if I know where they're from. And lots of companies, a register would like to know it. And I can basically generate a link through, like to know it, that means it doesn't cost the customer any extra, but we get 10%. So if you ever see, or not 10%, it's somewhere between 5% and 10% generally. If you ever see someone saying add aff link or affiliate link or whatever, it's because we've probably done it through like to know it, which basically means we get 10%.
Starting point is 00:06:49 or seven percent five percent whatever of any sales that go through anyway that's liked to know it they did a ball last year a gala actually they did a gala at the natural history museum wasn't it and a natural history museum and i got invited to the like to know it gala and i was like me in my tog 20 bore coat at best believe i'm going to say yes to i will be there and it was nice to me georgie came with me georgie was really excited so i couldn't get out there's a date got closer. I was like, I don't know what I'm doing here. Do you remember I got really upset that you didn't know, you didn't tell me you were going together, even though I wasn't back at work yet and had no intention of going. Oh my God, Tommy, but I was upset anyway. Yeah, you were really upset. Tommy
Starting point is 00:07:30 had just been born. Well, he was like, like, I was like five minutes. Like, I don't think you don't. He was like, I know, but I just feel so left out. Oh my God, yeah. Well, fair enough, because fair enough. But so, I mean, I rented a dress. Georgie rented a dress. We all looked fantastic. But it was tragic to the maximi, standing in this cute. So first of all, there was like this massive, like red carpet outside the Natural History Museum. Amazing. I don't think I even have uploaded the photos of me. How sad. Anyway, so did that. Then Ellis, who had a microphone, who was hosting the event, she asked me where my dress was from. And I didn't know. Oh, come on. I know. I rented it. I rented
Starting point is 00:08:06 it. And then she went, oh, is it normal Kamali? I was like, oh, thank God, you recognised it. Yes. It's normal Kamala. I rented it. I love that brand. Yeah. Yeah, it's a really good dress. Yeah. Oh, you're really bad. First rule of a red carpet. Well, I don't know. I don't do red carpets. Know what you're wearing? And then she went, where's your bag from?
Starting point is 00:08:22 I was like, I went to that too. And then, yeah, and then she didn't ask what my shoes. And I did know where they were from. But that's cool to rent something to be like, it's from her. Well, yes, but you're supposed to know what you've rented. Yeah, you should probably know the label. So I spoke to her absolute disaster. No one ever used that footage.
Starting point is 00:08:39 And then we went in and we were literally packed like sardines. And it was basically a really big cube. for the official red carpet. And then every now and then, yes, to get packed. And then, so we'd all be in this queue
Starting point is 00:08:50 and they'd be like, I mean, there were literally hundreds of like little influencers basically. And then like, every so often there'd be a commotion as like a big influencer would come through with like her team.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Oh, stop. And like her people. So like, I mean, we weren't allowed our team or our people. Like I beg Bored and steal to get Georgie ticket to come with us. And I had to prove that she was an influencer too to come.
Starting point is 00:09:13 I mean, it was very, exclusive. Very exclusive. Anyway, but the people, the big, the big, the big bollockses were there with, with their photographers, with their assistants. Did they get to jump the queue? Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:25 But the awkward thing was, there wasn't a little, there wasn't a little pathway that they could just go down the side. They had to really barge through the cues. That's incredibly awkward. So it happened about once every 10 minutes, like there was a big commotion. Oh my God. For a big photograph. Like, who was one of them?
Starting point is 00:09:40 I'm intrigued. I can't do this. I can't do this. One of the big ones. I can't. I have to sit on my... Like a... I have to sit on my hands.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Okay. Well, no, actually, I did one of the commotions. One of the commotions was for Ashley, James. Oh, there you go. And I thought, I know her. And then I was like, never, never mind. She's like, sorry, who, are you? Yeah, she's like, ew.
Starting point is 00:10:00 In the queue. This is lame. I was like, any way I can go through the queue if no one takes my picture. They were like, no, this is how you get in. I was like, okay. Anyway, I spoke to another influencer at that event, who had rented something from her and the bag I had arrived. with a bit of cocaine in it.
Starting point is 00:10:17 You're kidding me. No. No way. So she had to send it up being like, I bet there's no drop down on the menu for that on her website. Why are you returning? Cocaine found in the bag. Just a tiny bit.
Starting point is 00:10:32 It's so good, isn't it? Wow. I know shambles. Wow. Imagine the anxiety you would get if you'd returned the club's bag that you rented and then realized you'd also have been. posted cocaine. I don't think it's illegal. I don't think it's legal. I mean, I don't think it's legal. I know it's not legal to have cocaine, but it feels very illegal to post it. You would probably
Starting point is 00:10:53 get in trouble for that, I imagine. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Drugs. No, definitely. Don't do it. Bad. Yeah. It's bad. Yeah. I wish I gone to that event. Well, I wasn't ready to go to that event, but I wish I had because the people watching about was out of this world. Like the outfits looked insane. Everyone looked amazing. It's the same thing. We've talked about this before where I just think I've got the same tools why can't I be you like why can't I look like you look it'd actually be interesting to talk about like influencer culture and how it's perceived I see a lot of it on TikTok and then people talking about influencer trips and influencer events and how like nobody talks to each other and they're just like all taking photos and it's like a
Starting point is 00:11:32 really hostile environment yeah and I don't know I feel like that is such a bit of shame I mean, the events that we go to, the events that we are invited to and the events that we go to, I feel like they're with brands that we really like and like have good values and we like align with them. And I have a great time. Like I always bump into people I know. I have a great time catching up. I rarely go to, I think we're very selective now with what we do, where we go. Well, I think particularly with kids as well. Because at the beginning of the, like we're saying, at the beginning of your career, you go to the opening of a paper bag because you want to meet everybody. and you want to network and you need to meet the PRs
Starting point is 00:12:11 and you need to put the relationships and you need to like make it's also exciting it's so exciting at first and you get to meet the creators that you admire and that you follow and like yeah so it was really it is really exciting but then now it's a bit more difficult because I mean to put it bluntly
Starting point is 00:12:26 like to go out of an evening means missing bedtime with my kid and I'm not going to do that there's very little I will do that for right right so it has to be special it has to either be work like like kind of work work like tangible work yeah yeah yeah it's hard to do it for like the potential of work yeah so it's got to be work work or it's got to be with my friends do you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:12:49 yeah it's it's difficult to just go to like everything because but I always think I always think it's such a nice atmosphere but what I will say is when I first started out and there was crossover because I did a lot of events through hello as a journalist and then it kind of crossed over into influencer and what I will say is there is a mark difference or at least there was a mark difference between beauty and lifestyle events and fashion events tell me beauty much more accessible people are kinder more inviting far less exclusive fashion very elite very exclusive very thin like to put it bluntly like there was a lot of like thin a lot of fat shaming a lot of body shaming like it felt very exclusive like I felt like at fashion events I was on like 10
Starting point is 00:13:34 hooks, not tender hooks, tent hooks. I'm these tender hooks of mine. I always felt, sorry, I'll always think of you and I say that. Thank you. I always felt like really judged. I always felt like I had to make a real concerted effort with what I wore and even when I did, I still felt very insecure and self-conscious, whereas beauty events like really friendly, at least that's what, that was my experience anyway. Yeah. But like London Fashion Week events, awful. Obviously I've never been invited. Horrenders. I did get invited to a Paris fashion week, but I got
Starting point is 00:14:08 invited event, but it was the day, this was this year, the day before the event and I had to pay for my travel. So I was like, well, I think I got the same. Was it for the Olympics? I remember, I didn't, I didn't even, I didn't even, I didn't, I didn't, I was like,
Starting point is 00:14:25 I am too, no. Also, what would I wear? That's the thing, that's the same with the NTAs. It's the same thing where it just panics me. So much the thought of like, what would I wear to this thing? I think the last, since I've done this as a job, since I've done this as a career, I've never, I don't think I've ever been to an event that I felt like, that was horrible. Or that was, I was really unwelcome there. Like, I don't think I've, I don't think I've had anything like that.
Starting point is 00:14:53 I had events at the beginning of my career where I would just be so anxious. There was always more of a me problem where I'd like hide in the looom. all night or where I'd like cling to the PR and be like oh you haven't got any friends and you have to talk to me because you're being paid to be here I've got the stories like that but I think it's a really different industry what we're talking about like the like you say the brands that we work with and whatever to the gala's the TikTok stuff the probably even the like I mean the lights no thing was nice because because fancy yeah and different because it was a lot of our friends because it was a lot of people who've been in the industry in the same city as
Starting point is 00:15:34 you know we've been doing it for 10 years so we've we've made friends you know whatever so that doesn't really count but like and the same of the blogosphere awards that's always nice because it's always they're not called blogosphere anymore are they be creator be creator the year yeah yeah they're nice i've never been to one of those no you didn't come last time i mean daisy went without you yes yeah we didn't win no sad um but you're nice i but i i think it's more like the TikTok events that sound, those, because I keep hearing this stuff, like, all the, all the influencers are just like starving and silent. I'm like, oh, I saw my agree. I mean, there is a lot of taking pictures. There is a lot of getting content, but like,
Starting point is 00:16:12 that's what influencers do. That's the main part of their job is to create and get content. So that is a big part of like these events that we go to, people doing content. But it's not the way it makes it sound on TikTok and people like, it's like people sitting around, like, just having their photo taken and not eating. And I don't know. It's so. It's just, it's not like that. It's just like, you've got to get your photo done. It's not a family dinner. No, that's it.
Starting point is 00:16:36 I think that's what people do this. Like, we all know why we're here. Right. If we've been invited to a brand event and we don't take our picture at the brand event, they're not going to be happy. And if it's a bad picture, they're not going to be happy. I don't think people appreciate that. It's like, I'm not saying influencing.
Starting point is 00:16:51 It's a difficult, you know, like a difficult career in the scheme of things. But it's like when people are sort of, oh, well, it's just, you know, there's posing for ages. And it's like, well, yeah. Yeah, it's part of it. It's part of it. Yeah. Like, would you rather we put up bad photos that no one likes? And then if no, and yeah, it's a toxic cycle of engagement and content farming.
Starting point is 00:17:11 But we are where we are. Yeah, got to play the game. What is sad is that I still distance myself from like the term influencer as well. Like when people, I don't know when I go to someone and they ask me what I, I'm part of it is because I don't want to talk about it. I don't want to get into it with people as a journalist. Nice. And then they ask me who for and I just say freelance. Nice.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Yeah. Part of it is because I don't want to get into it. Do you not say a podcaster? Are you ashamed of me? I don't want to get into that either. I feel like journalists kind of shuts down the conversation a bit more than... This is why you don't make friends. I'm a journalist.
Starting point is 00:17:48 You can't trust me. I'm a journalist. Do you know what I mean that? Nobody's horrible. I'm not up for describing that I'm like, oh, it's... Yeah, you're an influence. And then what do you... What are you in terms?
Starting point is 00:17:57 Bah. Nothing. Nothing I look about. And then people are not like... And then people always ask you, how many followers do you have? Yeah. And then I'm like, I know how many followers I have to the number. Of course, I know, because I see it every day.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Yeah. But if I say it out loud to you, it's awful, like, 569,000 followers. Yeah. It's horrible. I sound like a, no, you shouldn't say that. You should just say, oh, I always say that a few. Or, oh, oh, like, about 300,000. I say, that's what you say about, about, about.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Yeah, say like, about, about, but it's like, obviously I know, but. I don't know. People, I always say I do a podcast and they go, what's your podcast called? I'm like, don't listen to it. Please don't listen to it. And she's like, well, I'll listen to it. I'm like, don't listen to it.
Starting point is 00:18:39 I'm like, don't listen to it. I'm like, oh, God, I'm so sorry. I'm like, oh, that's terrible way. And then what's your podcast about? I was like, uh, um, nothing. Nothing. That's something I need to talk to you about is like working on an elevator pitch for what the podcast is because when people ask me, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:18:56 I don't really know. It's nothing is rubbish. Don't listen to it. Yeah. It's terrible. It's horrible. it's a waste of all of our time no we need to get better at like marketing ourselves
Starting point is 00:19:05 I know you want to just take it with both hands and own it but people shit all over influences and you do feel stupid at a wedding because without fail at every fucking wedding I go to I'm sitting next to people that work in money and I never understand what kind of money but everybody's got something to do with money oh 100%
Starting point is 00:19:23 and they don't have they don't know what to do yeah business with a finance capital B finance oh I'm in technology marketing Oh, God, okay. I'm an influencing. But if I ask too many questions about their technology marketing, they get weird about it. I'm like, shoo, my friend.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Probably because they don't like to talk about it. You know when you meet someone, like I would rather quiz you about your job than have to talk about my job? 100%. They probably feel the same way. We all feel the same way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:50 So we're all hoping to not talk about our own jobs. And yet why do we continue asking you to the questions? Wouldn't it be nice if we could just sit and observe things? Do you know what I mean? Rather than dig deep, be that that's nice. napkin. Oh, I tell you, I went to a wedding the other day, I went to my friend's wedding, and I was sitting next to a cousin, the bride's cousin, one of the bride's cousins, and I felt
Starting point is 00:20:13 so sorry for him because he didn't know, like, I, I was next to, they'd obviously had to dot the cousins around, and I was, I was next to people that I knew, and opposite people that I knew, and he sat next to me, and he put his drink on the table, and bless him, there was a hole in the table, under the table glove. So, he put it down. And his drink went everywhere, like all over all of us. And obviously he just looked really drunk. We were like, oh, God, this guy. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:20:38 And he was like, no, whatever. And then he came back and he did it again. And it was like, no. And then it was only the second time we realized there was a hole in the table. I was like, Jesus, I've got the short straw. I've got some like drunk cousin to sit next to. That's always a risk. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:20:52 It is. But I do quite like that, though. I quite like meeting someone new. I wish people who worked in money would talk more about what they do. because I consistently don't understand what they do and I'm sure it's because they're all really shady about it if you answered my questions at the wedding I'd have a better understanding of the fiscal situation
Starting point is 00:21:11 all of my sisters working money actually three of them work in money well I'm seeing Catherine on Saturday I'm going to ask us some questions yeah yeah I've got some things I need to know she's like big dog in money she's like an accountant yeah so is Jen they're like chartered accountants I've got so many questions for everybody that works in a career that I don't work in. Like, I don't need to talk to people about marketing particularly or PR or advertising.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Creative spaces. I still, that is interesting. It's not not interesting, but it's like I've kind of, I've got the, I understand how the career works. Yeah. Civil servants. I've kind of got, no, I've kind of got it. Because they're quite forthcoming. People are quite forthcoming.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Yeah. With the, you know, like my friends that work in those sort of roles are quite, this is how the job works. This is what I do. I'm like, okay, I can see how that happens. But people who work in banks, for tech companies, any sort of finance, anything in the city. People say, I work in the city. What does that mean? You probably think they're being boring because everyone's like, oh, counting boring.
Starting point is 00:22:15 People just say, say, oh, I work in the city. I'm like, okay. I work in hedge funds. Which city? Quite. There are a few in the UK. Exactly. And it always happens when I'll be like, I'll be in a wedding. I've done a wedding in Cornwall a couple of you.
Starting point is 00:22:27 It's like, I can work in the city. I was like, there's 30 cities between here and the world we came from. And what's a hedge fund? Yeah, I mean, just explain it to me. It wouldn't, it wouldn't kill them to do it, would it? Just to be like. What's an I say? And why can't we print more money?
Starting point is 00:22:43 Do you know what I mean? I know. Just take two minutes out of your time. We don't need to talk about my stupid podcast. Just tell me. Tell me about my stupid podcast. Just tell me about the recession. Or like, tell me about inflation.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Or like, How does the stock market work? I would love someone to do that and to put it into real layman's terms. But that's all I ask for from people at weddings. It's all I ask for from the strangers sitting next to me. I'm like, just tell me how your job works, and they never do. We probably don't want to be patronising either.
Starting point is 00:23:12 I just don't think they know either. That's what I'm convinced. Just nobody knows what I do. Everyone's just very confused. They all walk into the city and they just go, like, I work in the city now. It's like severance. I don't know what that is, but yeah. Oh, my.
Starting point is 00:23:27 God. Have you not seen it? No. I know I say this a lot, and I'm prone to exaggeration, but it's the best TV show I've ever watched in my entire life. You've said that's so many times. Is it better than slow horses? I mean at this one. I mean it this time. It's as good as. So this is where the metric falls down. You're like, it's the best I've ever seen. It's as good as this one that I said was really good. It's better than slow horses. Marginally. It is so good. Is it better than the boys? Yeah. Yeah. I lost interest in the boys. It gets a little bit gruesome, isn't it? I lost a bit of interest.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Definitely better than the boys. Definitely better than the slow horses, but only marginally. Is it as good as succession? Yes, because I understand more than I did in succession. That's another thing. Didn't understand. Don't understand a thing. I do think the purpose of succession is you're not supposed to understand it all, I think.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Because I do think on that as well, and they're like, I'm a businessman. What does that mean? Wait, have you watched, nobody wants this yet? No, I'm still watching plastic. Look, I'm literally, okay, so my evening's right now. Bedtime Feralo takes an hour and a half Throwing up for me afterwards Takes about an hour and a half
Starting point is 00:24:31 Then I have to try and eat something Then I have to be in bed by nine I have to be in bed by nine Because I'm up Nobody wants this is 26 minutes long But I've got to finish Sacrifice first
Starting point is 00:24:42 No you don't Yes I do I can't leave I've got to finish what I've started Very quickly severance Which is on I think it's on Apple Weird And I can't remember who's the main guy I don't know
Starting point is 00:24:54 It sounded weird Usually they're on Disney, right? I don't know. Not really. Weird. You've made it weird. I don't think it was weird. I still see Apple as like the phones, like not as a streaming service.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Anyway, it's about people who go into work and choose to sever off all like cognition. So their home life is completely severed from their work life. And they can't, the two do not overlap at all. They have no idea in their work life. what their home life is. What is the opposite of that? They don't know they have children. They don't know they have a wife.
Starting point is 00:25:30 What is the opposite of severance? Because that is influence a culture. Oh, and everything's merged. We are literally the opposite of that. No boundaries. Not a single one. Oh my God, it's so good. And then the point of the series is like,
Starting point is 00:25:45 slowly they start to learn little bits of what is like their outside, their outside life or learn about their work life. And it's just, it's so good. Maybe that is what happens to people who work. in the city. Maybe that's where they can't tell me what they do. I've got a wedding at the end of the year and it's like very close to the baby. Baby time. So I'm trying to work out if I can go to this wedding because it's like super far away. No kids. I'm going to be super pregnant. And I don't know. I don't know if I'm going to do it. And one of the biggest pulls for me is who I will be sitting
Starting point is 00:26:13 next to you and what they could explain to me about their jobs. I want to meet these people because in our day to day lives we don't meet these people. I know. I want to know them all. I love those videos that are like we should all have like a day in the life of our friends and just go and like shadow them in their jobs. I would love that so much. I've got some friends. A friend who works in hedge funds. I really want to know. Yeah, 100%. What does that mean? I know. Like, what is a hedge fund? And like what? Like, what is it? And this is the frustrating thing. It's not like I don't, it's not like I don't pursue my curiosity. The questions that I have, I am taking everywhere I can think of and they're just not being answered.
Starting point is 00:26:52 That's the thing. I tell you what happens. There's two issues with me. I Google it. I get an answer. I don't fully comprehend. I'm not fully grasping the answer. Therefore, I don't retain the answer. Maybe we should do an episode about hedge friends. I would love to do an episode about money and finance and that kind of thing. It would be so interesting. But I also have another friend who works for the government and she works in Downing Street. She's very cool. She's very cool. I want to understand. I want to follow her to work so bad. I know. Or how cool would that be to just follow her around for a day? I know because she wears suits to work.
Starting point is 00:27:22 I know to go and working Downing Street and like this is the girl that like I would drink like tequila slammers with on the regular like we we shared leather shorts all we did was just like drink and make bad choices and then she's worked her way up as a civil service for the last 10 years and now she's in Downing Street
Starting point is 00:27:42 the house of condoms famously famously yeah and she's a she's not tied to any party she's just she's just there for the good of the good of the nation and I'm like whoa what do you do Before we wrap up, you need homework. I'm giving you homework. It's going to be to watch seven minutes, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:27:58 No, no, to watch, nobody wants this because I want to talk to you about it next week. Okay. It's important because I need someone to talk about it with. Everyone's talking about it. I need you to watch it. Okay, okay. I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's the best roncom I've ever seen. I want you to stop saying things are the best.
Starting point is 00:28:18 You stop with the superlatives, don't I? 100%. Yeah, because it's the boy that cried, walk. It makes you harder. Yeah, I get that. Yeah, I get that. It's one of the best roncoms I've ever seen. Okay. I'm literally going to book somebody to come and talk to us about money and the city.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Okay, let's do it. And investing. I actually, I follow an account on Instagram called Your Journo, and it's so interesting. Yeah, I'm going to see if they'll come and talk to us about the industry. I actually, I want to know more. I want to understand everything. I actually follow an accountant, and I think she, like, specializes in, influencer I think that's a different thing though like I don't want to know about like people managing
Starting point is 00:28:58 their own money or paying their taxes and so like I respect that that's you know people got to do that yeah but I want to understand like because this country has like when we talk about like our GDP and like the footsie and the stock market and shares and we talk about being like we're in a national debt of like what is happening there do you know what I'm going to make this happen and all these like big farmer companies that come and they bring all of their money money. Where do they put it? I don't understand. And the people that are super rich, like the really, really, really rich people that stay at like the, the rits in London with their bentleys and stuff. I was like, how are you making that much money and how are you sustaining it?
Starting point is 00:29:40 And when you go to the city, what do you do there? I have so many questions. So, okay, right, I'm doing this. I found seven women-led finance accounts to follow on Instagram. I'm going to trawl through them. I want to look at your journal too because I'm obsessed with them. That's all about women's investing. Are they British? Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:58 And they talk about women, how women should invest. Okay, fine. There we go. Okay. And if you guys have any information about the city, please let us know. I don't think anyone cared about the influence of marketing gossip.
Starting point is 00:30:14 I think, I think so. The influence is very big on TikTok. I see a lot of them. Ass out for you that you weren't invited. TikTok? It's really bad. How many followers do you have on TikTok?
Starting point is 00:30:27 You know what? I actually don't know. That might be the problem. See, you're on Instagram. I don't spend any time on there. You know to the second, 569. Yeah. I have 62.6,000.
Starting point is 00:30:37 God, if you're not even big enough with that, that's that. I've got 2,000 followers on TikTok. That's my problem. I don't use it. I'm too scared of it. Every time I do. It is scary. Every time I post on TikTok, things go wrong for me.
Starting point is 00:30:47 It is, it is scary. Because I forget to check on it for four or five days. And then I come back on the comments are all hurried. We've got a, we've got a, should I delete that TikTok? Yeah. Best believe I don't check the comments. Oh. Also, TikTok made me realize that a lot of people know who I am and don't like me.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Oh, really? Yeah, I think on Instagram, like the people that know me seem to be nice to me. Yeah. Whereas on TikTok, sometimes I'll see myself in a video, like whether it be ours or like, whatever. Yeah. And people are like, ugh. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:15 It's happened a couple of times. It's happened enough that it's hurt, me, my feelings. Send it my way. I'll fight them. No, because it's just like, twats. Oh, she's like She's the worst I'm like, what do you mean she's the worst
Starting point is 00:31:25 Worse than who Stop with your superlatives Don't be like Alex I'm like the worst But our Tick-Tock Our Taylor Swift Tick-Tock went viral Super nice comments on that Yeah, very very nice
Starting point is 00:31:38 I'm genuinely too scared to check the comments I think it reached Taylor Tock I don't know if that's the thing But it sounds great doesn't that I think it's Swifties The thing you got the Swifties That sounds nice Did it and they were nice
Starting point is 00:31:48 Yeah really nice Yeah I'm Whenever I see our videos TikTok when I'm scrolling through TikTok and I see myself oh I I I said you sent me a WhatsApp saying our video has gone viral and I ignored your message I nearly deleted the message so I'm sorry I'm sorry I didn't realize I won't do it again it's probably a good thing to know but I just can't it's like I can't I should have followed it up with like it's really good it's at the same reason I don't Google myself yeah ever I won't ever read a news story about myself like I love
Starting point is 00:32:15 the relationship that I have on Instagram with my people very quickly hit me can I read out very, very quickly. The Daily Mail shared my, shared a video that I made about Margot Robbie being trolled. And they chose such a nice green grab of you. They chose a horrendous scream grab of me. But anyway, I, I obviously check the comments. Okay? This is my favourite. Title, harsh but fair. Alex Light doesn't need to worry about Margo. She is Barbie. Alex Light needs to seek medical advice on the dark circles under her eyes and her puffy hands. Her puffy hands. Let me see your hand. Famously, not puffy anymore.
Starting point is 00:32:55 We've been down that road. We've had the engagement ring sliced off by the fire brigade. We've moved on. I know. She's been depuffed everybody. I know. They need to catch up. I know.
Starting point is 00:33:04 That puffy was last year. It did make me laugh though. And it's like, honestly, fair enough. I do have dark circles under my eyes. Now what I can do. I would contest the puffy hands. So would I, actually. Quite vehemently.
Starting point is 00:33:16 I've seen those hands puffy and that is not puffy. fucking daily mate i swear don't even don't even get don't even get you going do it once a week as it is all right we will see you next week see you on monday love you loads guys bye guys thank you so much for listening should i delete that is part of the a cast creator network

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