Should I Delete That? - Just Us: Al’s deepfake, Russell Brand and reading your comments

Episode Date: April 30, 2025

Al (aka Revolting Santa Claus) has come into the studio today armed with many, many, many awkwards for us. We also pull back the curtain a bit and read some of your comments on our latest episodes… turns out, we’re VERY responsive to feedback. It really does help us out if you rate and follow the show on your podcast platforms - so we’d LOVE it if you could leave us a good review if you love the show! Five stars pretty pleeeeeeasseeee! And we also chat about Al’s recent experience of being turned into a deepfake - and what it tells us about the fragility of women’s reputations in comparison to men - particularly in light of Russell Brand’s recent rape and sexual assault charges. Have you managed to have an even more awkward week than Al? We want to know about it. Email us at [e-mail] Follow us on Instagram:@shouldideletethat@em_clarkson@alexlight_ldnShould I Delete That is produced by Faye LawrenceStudio Manager: Dex RoyVideo Editor: Celia GomezSocial Media Manager: Emma-Kirsty FraserMusic: Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello, and welcome back to Shoulda Delete That. I'm Alex Lai. And I'm M. Clarkson. How are we? Yeah, good. Much better than last week. Your turn to crises. He'll turn to spiral.

In the rearview mirror, thank God. Still looks great. I have two awkwards for you. Good. This is what I want to hear. I want to kick back and relax today. Let Jesus take the wheel. Now I'm saying?

I do, lack of washing machine slash lack of water, complicated story out of house, we're going to the laundret to wash our clothes and wash Tommy's clothes, went there with two huge bags, like enormous bags, like carrying them in. It's like I had two boulders on me. Like a revolting Father Christmas. Yes. Why revolting? Because you've got like dirty clothes.

Like imagine how disappointed you'd be like, father, oh. Like it's not a skateboard, is it? Oh, I see, I see, because of what he's, the gifts on, yeah, yeah, sorry, sorry, I should have got that. Exactly, like a revolting for the Christmas, I was weighed down very heavily with these bags, so I put everything in there, anyway, went to the laundrette, put them on the floor, paid, got my ticket, picked the bags up, left. And then the woman came running out after me and she was like, but you left all your laundry. Clean or dirty? Dirty. On the floor? I went in with my dirty washing, put it on the floor, paid, picked back up my dirty washing and walked out.

You didn't clean it? No, because I'm an idiot. So you just paid for the visit. I just paid and left. Oh my God, I think you were going to say you left them. It's very embarrassing. I thought you were going to say you left them on the floor. I was like, how fancy do you think this is all dread is so they're going to be like, you'll deal with these?

No, I took them. I tried to take them home with me. How embarrassing. Yeah, nothing was something chased out of shop for anything. I did that as well because I was flustered because basically it was 32 pounds. I had a lot of washing, right? It was 32 pounds. I had 35.

So I gave, and it was her daughter who's like, I want to say seven or eight. Give cash. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think they only take cash. Nice. Yeah, okay. It was her daughter doing it.

So she was like, giving me the, she was like, oh, I'm just going to get you your change. She went and got me a change. She went and got me a change. She came back with a three pounds. And I was like, because when I, like helped with my dad when I was little, like people would sometimes say to me like keep the change, like goodbye to something for yourself. So I said to her, keep that, put it towards something. You can't get anything three pounds nowadays, but like, she doesn't know that yet.

She doesn't know that yet. Yeah, yeah, let her dream. And I was like, keep that and put it towards something. And the woman was like, don't you have to do that. Don't do that. I don't know. I don't know. I just felt like a very awkward moment. I was like, I shouldn't have done that. Have I offended someone? Have I upset? Someone is like, that not what you do anymore? Is she too young? I don't know. Is she for three pounds? Is she too young for three pounds? I don't know. No, surely. Pocket money still exists, right? If you're old enough not to eat it, you're old not, you know what I mean?

I'm not around kids that age anymore, so I don't know if I've overstepped. So I was all flustered and panicked, and it felt like I'd done something that was really weird. So that's why I picked up my washing that I'd go on. I see that that felt weird. Yeah. Yeah, because. I don't know. Yeah, because it's something weird.

No, I didn't think so. I think it's nice. Anyway, it was, it was, it wasn't received that well. So. No, maybe it was like. I just ran out with my bags. And then she ran after me being like your bags that you've just paid for. Overpaid for.

that's a very stressful situation the whole thing is stressful i don't think you're overstepping i think it's nice to give a shilling to the to the child it's kind of what that's kind of energy doesn't it like like like like it's like the days when like children worked you know yeah like i'm imagining i'm envisaging Hugh Jackman in a top hat greatest showman that's you and then there's like a street urchin that's the energy just like that and then we burst into song and dance now that is very laundrette coded that happens that's how many was a Beyonce Levi ad very very very she was singing in a laundrette yes there's something sexy about them and I don't know what it is there's something very arty about them I think that's what it is they're always in her you put your face I don't know what

it is that's exactly what it's that was my first awkward my second awkward okay I was having a therapy session as you know I do I thought you're gonna say threesome so I'm better with therapy yeah I know exactly when you have a therapy session because it's in all of our diaries it's all of our diaries. I'm very, I've taken it out now. I'm pleased about that. I don't know who put it in. Boy, Alex. But I put it was for him. I was very confused. I didn't know we could all see it. Anyway. Yeah, you could all see it. Great. Fun. Well, that, my famously, I go to therapy. And I, at the end of the call, as a Zoom call, and at the end of it, I said, I meant to say, thank you so much in her name, which begins at M. And I said, thank you so much, mom. So we know what we're talking about next week.

and then I just put it down I said thank you so much mom and then I was like I'm gonna just end of the Zoom call yeah that's a lot but you quite often call Dave dad she'll gaslight herself into like did she actually say that

as long as I don't as long as I don't acknowledge it that was in my head I thought that if I don't acknowledge it she might have missed she might think oh I've misheard it therapist don't do that therapist is incredibly normal

of all of us except what if they're not called her mom how horrible That's that. Thank you so much, Mom. Yeah, but that's like, if you had a therapy session since then. No, that was like two days ago. Because it's quite, you know. Freudian.

Freudian. Yeah, she's going to be like, we need to unpack that, babe. You know, am I filling up a motherly roll? I'm just going to deny it. I'm going to gaslight her. I don't think it works like that. Do you not? No, I think they're in scrupulous.

Challenge accepted. Scrupulous. Scrupulous. Yes. Yeah. What does that mean? I say it often. Well, have scruples means to have, like, morals.

and value... Scruples? Scruples? Do this one have scruples? Yeah. Are you just unscrupled? I've never heard someone talk about a scruple of scruple being scruples. Yeah, he's got...

Scruples? It's the loveliest one I've ever heard. Yeah, that is right, isn't it? It's scruples. A scruple is a feeling of doubt or hesitation with regard to the morality or propriety of the course of action? You mean to tell me, I've been having scruples for my whole life and I didn't know they were called scruples.

What a lovely work, guys. Oh my God, we're full of scruples. We've miced up, Faye. We got an email. Oh, yes. We got an email saying that it wasn't nice that Faye and Dex weren't mic'd up which I do understand because it felt like

there was a level of disconnect from the listener which we did not want so Faye is angry with us because she didn't want this at all but we're giving the people what they want and she's liked we're giving this person what she wanted because we've heard from one person but we are very responsive to criticism so well that leads me

that leads me perfectly on to the next thing I want to, sorry, I'm taking over this, but the next thing I want to talk about is, you know there's comments now on Spotify. I wish there weren't. On the individual episodes. Yeah, I'm very scared. And I've only been on once to read them. Apart from just now, I've actually read through a few.

Are they okay? Yeah, mixed bag, but I feel like, no, not nothing like bad, just same thing, you know, like the scripted nature of the body image series. Yeah. what it did polarize people it did put it yeah it was it was divisive yeah we could not have done that off the cuff guys

I've got to just say that like that was all the research in the whole one no way it also took us fucking months to write but there were also people saying that they relaxed into it not not relax into it sorry that they they got used to it and that they thought that we relaxed into it as well

probably probably anyway someone commented on the first just us episode and said, I really like the new format. It makes a lot more sense to have GBA with just us. Thank you. What used to be, is it just me?

Great. We did a good thing. According to this one person, which is good. We'll take that and run. Someone said, so please, I listen during breakfast time, especially the part of Betty, which I don't know what that was. That was when she was humping you loads. Yes, yes, yes.

Which she hasn't stopped doing, and you sent me a video over the other day, and it was so mechanical. I was expecting it to be more fervent, and it just wasn't. And it was just sort of, she was really just doing the motions, you know what I mean? Just getting a job done. I'm just going to have a little hump. As in not much passion. Yeah, no, it was like, she was, 100% she was like 32 years married and it was your anniversary.

Do you know what I mean? She's like, I'm doing this because I really feel I should. It's what you've come to expect from me. I'm mirrored her enthusiasm as well. I really feel we should upload it onto the Instagram. Just the sort of passion. thrust. Someone else wrote. Oh no.

As per the feedback on scripted content, can you at least try and make your ad sound sincere? Nothing worse than Al just going through the motions. I like when people say there's nothing worse than something not that bad, because I know. I will say again, famine's pretty bad. It's difficult with the ad stuff, guys, because that by virtue, that's the nature of the beast. you go through the motions that's exactly how it works to break the fourth wall a little bit we have to script them well yeah we have to script there are like key messages that we have to hit there's like certain things that we have to say like we're obviously we're promoting a product

and we have to do these ads guys this podcast is really like it costs a lot it really does cost this podcast has never made us any money and I do think we can be honest about that yeah like we for a long time paid to do it. It's just now and our Instagram's covered any anything that compensated for anything where we fell short

and yeah we're getting to a point where I think it's since we built the studio we are finally getting to a point but I mean how long have we been doing this now three years? Coming on four years?

Longer, yeah longer yeah four years yeah like I finally feel like people see it as a job though which is nice after years of being like what's a silly little job we have yeah well it is yeah

but it is a job yeah we've really like invested in this I know I've got our own studio yeah I know I've got our own set up like but there's nothing work our own team which is great but yeah we need to do ads

like we have to we have to be able to fund it somehow so can I take this opportunity to say if you do listen to it and you like it lol please leave good reviews because it really makes a difference we'll never read them because I'm genuinely I read our Apple reviews once and was like

well I have to just what were they bad? About me mostly which is fine but I probably only read the bad ones about me because you just do that they were probably really all good

and I just read one bad one and I was like shut up M I'm I was like but then why are you listening to a podcast with me

I know no I don't want to talk about them because it just makes me sad but like if you basically I think what we talked about us a few weeks ago I think with stuff like this sometimes people are more likely to leave a bad review than a good review

we talked about in restaurants people are more like to leave a good review than a bad review but when it comes to media people are more likely to leave a bad comment and it really makes a difference to us if you do like the show to leave a good comment that sounds so be review but let's just be right behind the curtain now and like rating yeah that if you like it not if you don't like it well if you don't like it then please don't rate but if you do like it five stars would be so great we can't this is too curated we can't ask that yeah we can we definitely can I hear podcasts asking it all the time

and we never, ever ask it. We should have asked it during the Body Image series if you enjoyed that because also it's award season and we would, let's just say what we want. It's manifested. We would love to win an award for that series. We would love to. Even though many of you hated the scripted element,

we were really proud of it. And actually it did do, people resonated with it really well. Oh my God, I've had so many ideas for series since. And it's like we need to, like when we catch our tails, I think both of us with your house move, me having a second baby, it's so intense right now.

but we've had some really good ideas for mini-series, haven't we? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm excited. And I keep messaging you, like, random format ideas and then being like, how are we going to make this happen? But probably nothing as extensive as the body image series. Not for now, no. But we've got a couple of, like, two parties. Yeah, two or three parties.

Yeah. Which I'm really excited at the prospect of because we really enjoyed that format. And I think a lot of you guys did too. I think it might have just. I think so. Yeah, I think we did need to get used to it as well. I screenshoted all of the good feedback. I can put it all in a little folder.

It's so annoying that the human condition means you just look. for the bad stuff. I know, and there was so much good stuff. I know, which actually, but to be honest, I didn't really care for any of it because I just had a baby. So I was just like, like on the lump it, folks, that's what we made. Can I make one more request? You're going to kill me.

Can I make one more request? One we're going to kill you. And this is what I hear people saying all the time at the top of their podcast episodes is can you follow us as well on Apple. Yeah, that makes a difference. Yeah. It's like the plus side on the top right hand. Yeah, following the show makes a difference. But following the show is great.

means it drops into your feed every week. It's great for our downloads. Yeah. Which is just, we're, but I mean, like, a second, a second of reflection, because we've come such a long way. I know. We hit five million a few minutes ago and we're not that far away from six. Are we not?

Are we not? We're like less than 200,000 away from six million. No, we're not. No, we're not. Yeah, we are. Stop it. We are having a party for 10 mil. I'm putting that out there.

Oh, my God, we have to. I mean, like, yeah, I'm saying that of such enthusiasm. When we hit 10 million, you? Fucking ages. Bigger, my 40th. Oh God, I'm reading the comments now and it says, Love You Girls and the Pod. But, Em, did you just say Chasim pronounce Chasim and not chasm? I probably did.

What's a chasm and a chasm? Why am I so stupid? You're not stupid. I'm not smart. So many people commented on the money. Episode. Yeah. Chasm, chasm, what's a, why would I have said that?

What's the right one? Casm. Casm. What's a chasm? What's a cavern? Why would I have said that? Like gap? Like gap?

You'd have said like the gap between the chasm. God, I'm like... Glaring chasm. I feel like there's a part of my brain that works incredibly well, but I can't access it other than at incredibly specific times. Like, I am aware that I can articulate myself in my capacity as a journalist or whatever. And sometimes I'm like, ooh, I'm in the flow, you know what I'm saying? I'm getting some good words out.

But then when I think about what I've just said, I'm like, the fuck... Like, it's like I blank on like anything that actually happened during that time whilst I was in, maybe I'm a, maybe I'm the first, maybe I'm a robot. Okay, I'm getting into these comments. I need to stop. We need to carry on, don't we? Oh my God, yeah. I was carrying on. Sorry, sorry. I was just talking. Oh my God, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I actually forgot we were in the middle of an episode. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Now we're behind the Sorry, what were you saying? She's too important for me.

I'm so sorry, I got deep into the comments. Your brain, yeah, I know your brain. Yeah, agreed. I feel very cared about and listened to, as you were. People have a lot to say on the comments. It's great. Do you feel perceived? No, it's exciting because I feel like people are talking about the episode.

And I feel like we don't get, because it's quite, it's... On Spotify, you mean? On Spotify, yeah. It feels like immediate and more... Because it's a bit more different, like, getting an email. like people have, there's a lot of steps to go through to write an email and it's... Well, I think also on Apple podcast, people are quite inclined to, like, they hear one episode they don't like, they'll leave a review on the whole show, which is a bit of a shame.

It's like, because people will quite often do that. If they don't like one episode, it's like, well, I'm going to give you one star because you said something in this episode that I really don't like. And it's like, that's a shame that one star is given to a back catalogue of 200 episodes or whatever because of this one. And I see this happening a lot, like, I love the news agents podcast. Yeah. And like, you listen to a current affairs podcast.

it happens all the time where it's like Emily Maitlis or whatever will have a take on something people give a one star and they'll be like I'm reacting to this one thing you said but it does mean

when I'm reading the reviews quite often you'll see a review and it'll be like someone will have taken umbrage with one episode and that's such a shame isn't it which is why I like Spotify's feature more

because it is a better better portrayal of better representation of the full picture because it does seem a shame that one star can and that's the fickle lecture How much content have we put out in the past three and whatever years?

We put out a lot of one-style content. I'm going to say it. Most likely, but we've, we'll have done that hours and hours and hours of talking, like some of it will be, yeah, some of it will be. Yeah, some of it's one-star. Some of us, two, three, four, five. On this, I just want to say, I took Arlo to A&E a couple of weeks ago because we had a really horrible day.

And the doctor that came to see her, I saw one doctor, and then we had to see a more senior doctor, and the second doctor that came in, came in and she said I was listening to your podcast on the way in this morning

I was like oh my God please don't hate it because if you hate it then you're not going to give a good cat did she that's so cool

totally made my day she was the nicest it was there is a special place in heaven for a pediatric doctors like they are so

those the two women who looked after us that day nice nice so good with kids oh I could just cry but if you're listening

thanks honestly because I'll cry because I was scary you were so nice oh hi hi oh yeah I was so nice not gonna say your name but hi yeah no honestly like

it's so weird though isn't it like such a silly job it's such a silly job isn't it the weirdest is when people like out about are like look and they show you their phone someone showed me her Apple Watch once and you were on it

because we were yeah we were on it like playing on her podcast and I was like that's so weird better than you being her phone background there will have been a time Do you remember when like you used to buy celebrities to be a, you probably weren't her phone background. I was making a little joke.

Do you remember? No, I just, I just. Do you remember you used to buy backgrounds? Like, but like I'm surprised I even came into your head. Like, no, because you could buy like Chalisa as your phone background. Could you? Yeah. Do you don't remember this?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you totally could. Yeah, yeah, you totally could. Oh, I'm too old for this. Are you too old for this? I don't remember this. I remember buying ringtones. Yeah, yeah, same vibe. You wouldn't, wouldn't, wouldn't have been too old to this.

You probably just weren't the target. demographic for buying to Lisa to be your phone background. Buying who? Delisa. Oh, Talisa. Tulisa. I would love to interview her. If she happens to be listening and wants to come on the podcast.

She won't. I would love to speak to Talisa. Oh, I didn't know that. I didn't know that's funny. I mean, I knew you put posters and celebrities on your wall, but I didn't know that you'd put them as your wallpaper on your phone. Yeah, we know you did. Yeah, Will Young up there.

Oh, she gave me, nothing makes her weaker. My first love. My first love. Nothing you love more than a gay pop star I do Just keep them tight slightly out of reach Yeah

God that was a good song Of that era Not well young Gabrielle I wonder what she's up to your day to day I always wonder that I'm like what you do day to date now What does the typical day look like for you

Gabrielle Slash Will Young Gabrielle where is she now Probably just chilling There is no where are they now article that I will not click on It's not fascinates me She performed at the O2

like two days ago. Oh, that's where she is. She's in Greenwich. We should have gone. Should have gone. Oh, I was supposed to go to a gig the other day. I know. And I couldn't go.

I had tickets. Who was it? Ola Gartland. I love so much. She's like my favourite. That's such a shame. You know, it's the second time I've had gig tickets and not been able to go. That's such a shame.

Both childcare related. I know I was absolutely gassed and then couldn't make it because my baby doesn't, my baby's just, I'm not at that time in my life. It's okay. We'll get to see her again. Alex has bought tickets to see Jesse. DJ acoustic soon. Wow.

We don't get to go to that either. That's really cool. I was like, why do you do this? She is an incredible singer. Incredible singer. I watch her stuff on TikTok a lot because I'm just like, it just fascinates me. Yeah, Alex is obsessed with her.

Her voice reaches. I know. Statospheric. She's been high than Katie Perry. That's really, that's, yeah, throwback, I like that. Thanks. Okay, have you, you had something else you needed to tell us?

I never spoke to you about my deep fake fiasco you actually did you dropped it in my WhatsApp and then ghosted me I didn't say anything to do no she just sent me a TikTok link to a video

to your deep fake and then I replied going OMFG what is followed by questions nothing you've become a real just truth

like a through a grenade and left yeah yeah that's happening incredibly frequently how awful was it though yeah sorry we'll get back to that now

what the fuck this happened to Rian Rietrichishish Lambert. I'm not even going to try and pronounce her username. Retrition? Retrition.

Yeah. Yeah. Because she is a, well, she's a dietitian. Yeah, so she is a, sort of credible medical. Yes. She at least has, like, like, credentials. Credentials. But you've been deep faked.

I've been deep faked as an expert. How did it feel to look at it? It was so weird watching it because it sounds like my voice, but not. Like, it sounds a lot more well-spoken than me. yeah and it's sort of your face it's taken from one of our podcasts yeah yeah it's just yeah and it's my face and it looks like me

like I sent it to my mom and she was like I don't understand why you're saying these things like she didn't quite get it and she was like it's just that's what's so scary if your own mom thinks it's you it's confused yeah it's so scary I know so scary and someone sent it to me is like

is this you oh my God I feel like we're living in like it's that not like black mirror really wrong isn't it Yeah, yeah, it's really scary. The technology is getting sleek and it's getting harder to spot. So for people who haven't seen it, you basically,

there's a TikTok video of you as a clip taken from one of our podcasts in which you are selling something. It's someone has generated you to make an ad. Tell that commenter, she's got problems with the ad you do for the pod. Wait until she sees the ads you're doing for TikTok. She was fuming. Yeah, quite right. Yeah, and they like, the worst was they opened it with the,

like hook initially like obviously designed to like stop people in their tracks and like hack the algorithm and it was like women who don't have sex deserve to be cheated on like that's what they open up with which I saw it and I nearly died I was like oh my god we do live we've talked about this so many times but we live at a point where a woman there is genuine well we've always lived at this point where there is nothing more valuable that a woman's reputation and it's genuinely the most fallible thing like it is the easiest thing to tarnish and you know council culture

I do not believe it exists for men that we haven't talked about Russell fucking brand no we haven't but like he's been charged yeah and he's come out and made a video did you see have you seen the videos he's been putting out

I genuinely felt sick he was I honestly sorry I'm so angry I'm going to put my coffee down indeed hold my beer I have not actually got to a pot I would love a beer I have not got to a point of rage like this where I've had to actually actively move myself away from content because I was so angry watching it. Like, you can get away with rape.

It happens every single fucking day multiple times. Like we know that the statistics are terrifying. He's come out and basically done this video. The fact that he's been charged, they have to have some incredibly substantial evidence to be able to bring forward multiple charges. There is no doubt in my mind that they have. very, very, very, very good evidence to show that he did this. But he's done this video and he's like, basically, completely undermining the justice system to be like, do you, do you believe, we can try and play a clip if we're allowed to. How do you feel about your legal system right now? How do you feel about some of the high profile cases that are not being pursued and prosecuted?

How do you feel that the Southport murders were handled? How do you feel about the government of Kirstama? The Southport killers, the man who killed those children at the Taylor Swift dance class, he's inciting that being like, how do you feel about what he was charged with? Because he wasn't charged fairly. Basically, he's saying they're coming after me when they should be going after baddies. And it's, it works. It's so manipulative. Everything he's been doing, this turning to Christianity, this cult-like behavior.

There's a book called Cultish that I really recommend everyone read. but the way he has been operating over the last year has all been leading to this since the first murmurings of trouble he started this with a clear agenda so that when the time came that charges were brought he'd be able to turn it and use the people that he's indoctrinated

against the justice system and it's so fucked up I can't even remember how we got here I'm just so cross like it's so disgusting I saw one video where he said I am many things and I did a lot of things in my past like you all know

that I've opened up about things I did in my past but I was never a rapist I only saw that but yeah I'm not surprised he's tried to I listened to an interview with I think it was a show

with Edithshire I want to say it's Gordon Smart but I may be wrong about him and just check who it was it was a news agent's episode maybe anyway years ago when

all of these allegations first started coming out maybe last year or the year before and he cited that in Russell Brand's book he wrote a about how he used to, his dog wasn't allowed upstairs.

Rossaman wrote this in his book. His dog wasn't allowed upstairs. So he would take his dog upstairs and then throw it down the stairs and shout at it for coming up the stairs. Like, what kind of a sociopath? Because he's a fucking lunatic. Sorry, I don't know if I'm allowed to say that.

I don't know if that's a diagnostic. Like, I don't know if I'm, I don't know if I'm being problematic using the word lunatic. But he's an awful. It's a monster. He's an absolute monster. If you're writing that in your book, what are you doing?

You know what I mean? And like, what are you doing? What are you doing? Yeah, what are you doing that you don't feel comfortable writing about? Yeah. Shit. I mean, like, anecdotally, I know some shit. But I mean, like, this guy just, I swear to God. Awful, awful, man. Awful man.

And, but that's what, like, when we talk about cancel culture, for men, doesn't exist. Like, just doesn't. I'm going to cite him every single time. They're absolutely fine. But women, you can trash a reputation like that. And these videos will be used to ruin women. And, like, someone, that might be someone, someone, may not dig any deeper than to see that video of you and just think well fuck

Alex light and just to back up what you're saying about his reputation he's got 4.8 million followers on on Instagram and he's look at the comments when if you look at the comments underneath all these articles he's innocent he this is a witch hunt like don't believe these women these women are fame hunting I could go for days on this shit oh my god it's so depressing it It's genuinely, it makes me feel sick to my stomach what he has done and what he represents and how he's manipulated his audience. And he's a women, he's a women who are falling at his feet. It's so gross.

We don't worship justice. We worship consumption. Threaten that and people lose their minds. We're not hungry for truth. We're hungry for stuff. And deep down we know it's because we're empty. Mm-hmm. He is.

Fowl. Shit. But people are, oh my God, they just. Love him. They blindly, blindly follow him. So, I've just noticed that, like, someone I know has liked his latest post. No, no. Not no, no, no, but no.

This is interesting. We've talked about this before. It's like, we've talked about this before. Do we want the echo chamber? Do we want the, like, you know. But also, did she do it as an accident like I did with that other post? Probably not. That's why I don't know.

But, like, that's not cool. No, that's not cool. My friend in Ireland is so good at calling out injustice. I'm obsessed with her. And, like, she's tagging people. She'll literally be like, you guys are all still following Connor McGregor. Oh, really? And you all are following, please.

I'm like, good for you. Well, yeah, I've got 96 mutuals with him. Oh, my God. Yeah. Meaning that people that I follow him. Oh, my God, there's someone who I follow here who's like in all, like, and all this shit. Oh, no, she only liked the one. Maybe she did it by accident.

Someone else? Cricky. Oh my God, God, it's, this, this, the internet is what I, we are living in black mirror. Honestly, I think we need to just go outside and touch flowers regularly, like regularly. We need to do a Katie Perry and kiss the earth. Yeah, stay grounded. Stay grounded. Legit though, like, it's making us crackers.

He's also, he's also done a post about Katie Perry famously, his ex-wife. Katie Perry has gone to space and I'm elated. She's accomplished such a, not ex-wife, right, or ex-girlfriend. I'm excited. She's accomplished such a feat and made it back safely. She actually bought me a ticket to space once. I should have seen the writing on the wall then. I don't really get it. No, I didn't get it either. I wish you'd gone and got stuck. Just floated around for ages. So he's like, he's after attention as well. This is the thing. He's like he didn't need to make a post about his ex-wife going to space. He's been to space. He's been to space and he's put it on his stories. It's like, my ex-wife's been to space and I haven't done anything. Yeah. What have you done? Today, Russell. Yeah, I'm in space. you. God knows what you've done actually. Sorry, I think I think I can say that, sorry. Okay, well.

Well, that we've got around the houses. I do apologize for forgetting in the middle of the episode that we were in the middle of an episode and completely ignoring you. I'm fine about it. My attention is very limited. I'm so sorry. I hate myself.

I hate you. It's fine. it's fair. We'll see you guys next week. See on Monday. See on Monday. Bye. Oh, and leave a little review. Good one. Yeah, yeah. Just thank you. All good. We're bringing up free to snap. Cheers guys. Love you bye. Bye. Should I delete that as part of the ACAST Creator Network?