Should I Delete That? - Just Us: Break up practicalities, Krispy Kreme conspiracies and Daddy Pig’s weaponised incompetence

Episode Date: June 4, 2025

This is possibly one of our most chaotic episodes ever. Expect animal noises, a little bit of sick and some absolutely outrageous claims… Join us to discuss Daddy Pig’s weaponised incompetence, a Krispy Kreme conspiracy and we also read a listener email which has reminded us that people actually listen to these conversations… We love reading your messages - if you want to get in touch you can email us on [e-mail] JOIN US IN EDINBURGH FOR OUR BIGGEST LIVE SHOW EVER! We’ll be taking over the iconic Usher Hall for one night only on 3rd September. Head to SIDTLive.com for more information and to purchase tickets. We guarantee that buying tickets will ding your rewards centre. Follow us on Instagram:@shouldideletethat@em_clarkson@alexlight_ldnShould I Delete That is produced by Faye LawrenceStudio Manager: Dex RoyVideo Editor: Celia GomezSocial Media Manager: Sarah EnglishMusic: Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello and welcome back to Should I Delete That. I'm in Clarkson. I'm Alex Light. This is Zampi. I was going to say, you're going to introduce our other guest today. She is a menace. I have cold vomit all down my right side. You really do.

Yeah, it's, it's congealing. She's so cute, though. She's so cute. You guys have been so nice. I'm not going to have to concentrate. No, well, why should you? You guys have been really nice about having it when she's in the episodes, so I appreciate. I appreciate that if you hear the suckling or the crying or the giggles.

Ben, sorry. That's Alex. You might hear some toots as well, mainly for me. Oh my God, baby farts bring me so much joy. I don't know when they stop being so funny. Tommy did one this morning and it shocked him. He got to be like, if it's just like, looked around, like where did that come from? One of my mum's dogs, Echo, like, absolutely will not tolerate a fart.

Like, if anyone does them, including a human, she feels like a deep sense of shame and leaves the room. Oh, that's so sweet. It's like, she harbours all of the embarrassment. That's so sweet. But it's quite funny. Like, if you're, like, by yourself in a room with her and you fart, she's like, bye. I'm like, oh, sorry. She was like, it must be the smell.

I know. Well, so fun. Talking about dogs. You know, my mum's got like a million dogs. Yeah. So she's got Echo, who's like, this ancient yellow. lab and then she found in turkey like two years ago she found this little yellow dog and she's missing one of her eyes or she wasn't at the time but then basically mom was walking through turkey

and then this little dog like smelt her weakness like smart um so like this one will take me home sure enough mom's like you're coming to live with me um and she had this like funky eye so that mom was like well I'll take her to the vet anyway and then took her to the vet and they're like well we need to remove the eye and that's going to be expensive mom's like right cool, guess I'm paying for that then. So then she got the eye removed. And then it's like, well, need somewhere to rehab. Whoa, more sick.

More sick going on. This is a waste. This is wasteful behavior. Anyway, basically, mom's heartstrings got pulled on one time by one dog. And two years later, Dolly lives at home with mum now. And anyway, she looks just like Echo, except she's tiny and she's got one eye. So when Arles on FaceTime, she always goes, oh, it's the echoes. It's like baby Echo, Echo and Baby Echo.

She's like, oh, the echoes. It's like, I haven't got it. I don't know how to explain that there's, never mind. Like, it's just the echoes. That's really sweet. I know, it's really sweet. Oh, my God, that stage when you're trying to like introduce connections and relationships to them between people and things.

And it's so hard. I remember with Louis, I was like, Jen, his mom. I was like, Louis's my nephew. I was like, she's my sister. And he was like, no, she's not. She's my mummy. And I was like, how do I explain this? And then I was like, we have the same mummy.

And I was like, God, I'm confusing myself, and mind you. I really broke Alex aside. He's really crossed with me the other day because I told Arlo that my real name was Emily. And then I told her that his real name was Alex. And I thought she'd forget. And then she came downstairs from the morning and she went, Alex. And he was like, my heart. That is brutal.

Yeah. I mean, I felt, I'm so grateful to my mum because I honestly, I came downstairs and I was like, babe, I've done something really bad. And normally, I could say something pretty bad. And Alex goes, don't worry. but he was really upset and I was like oh my god I already felt pilot now you're making me feel worse obviously I spiraled for like two or three days and then I said it to my mom and I was like I told her that my real name was Emily and she's like okay and it is I guess it is yeah I guess you're right she'll hear other people calling you that I was like oh yeah whoops yeah I think that's fine it didn't feel fine I can yeah it felt devastating yeah she kept calling me Emily I was like no under control or delete and you can can't do that with kids. No.

No, they just know now. My niece who's the same age as Arlo, especially at night time, stands in a cart and screams Catherine. He's her mum, Catherine! Catherine! We've got videos of it. She's like shouting it.

She's proper angry. She can't say Catherine properly. Catherine! That's iconic. That made me feel way better. It's so funny. She also calls my mum and dad, who obviously her grandparents,

she calls them mum and dad because Catherine calls them mum and dad. so my mum is mum and my dad is a dad and what are Catherine and mommy and daddy oh well that's fine isn't it yeah it's a lot I mean imagine having to learn everything

it's confusing the weird thing is we have to teach everything which is really stressful like yeah sometimes when she's freaking out I'm like I want to break out I want to freak out I'm fair

I'm done yeah honestly yeah it does stress me out that we have to teach everything that is really stressful and it got to be everything she even ties her hair up the same she can't tie her up she's too But like if I put something in my, like if I put like a hair tie in my mouth, she puts a hair tie and I'm like, well, you'll choke on that. So we won't do that anymore. And like I open things with my teeth. So now she opens things with their teeth. I'm like, right, well, I won't do that anymore. I mean, I feel like it highlights gaps in your knowledge as well. And I'm saying this as someone who's a 16 month old 16 year old. 16 year old.

There's a gap in your knowledge. I could be. Oh my God. I'd have been 22. That's a perfectly reasonable age. I know. That's crazy. No, don't do. Anyway, I was doing farm yard. There are some gaps in your knowledge. There are a lot of gaps in my knowledge. It's like a honeycomb. Multiple gushes.

There's more gaps than non-gaps. And I was trying to teach him farm yard animals. And like that's okay for like pig, sheep, cow. But then it got to goat and I was like, I just have no idea. Like, what does a horse make? What does a goat make? Oh, I can do this. I can do this all day.

Go on. Goat. Oh, yeah, that's quite good, actually. Really good. Oh, that's quite good. I was just doing bar. You're going to be so impressed when you hear Alex's horse. We'll get him back in at the end.

Go on. No, no, I can't do it. Oh, okay, okay. It's uncanny. Oh, really? Yeah, his whole head gets involved. It's really loud. It's cool.

And this is our, I can do, I mean, yeah, get me. Let's go again. Next one. Well, I mean, the goat was the one I really tripped up over. But then I was like, let's just move on. I was like, lion, rah! And I did this and it spooked him. I went way too loud in his face.

What kind of farm has a lion in it? No wonder. this kid's like this woman is never a clue what about what about a donkey can i hear your donkey fine i'll do you mine oh okay that's not what i'm thinking that was good that was good thanks yeah so what they call him ea yes is it stop it i never knew that it's really good isn't it do it again oh do pig oh i like the face i like the eye got I'm like for that. Arlo oinks a lot.

Is pepper oinks? Oh my God. Mummy pigs had a baby. It got announced on breaking news. There was a push notification on my phone. I saw it. And I nearly told Arlo this morning and I was like, I'm going to tell her. And then I was like, this is going to confuse the shit out of her.

So we're going to have to cross that bridge. She doesn't need to know that it was breaking. She's not going to find out. And then was going to, well, someone might tell her today. But they sure I believe them. I can't believe that it's such like cultural event. I didn't put it on the cover of Gratzia. No, they didn't.

Well, I saw it on the cover of Gratcia. Wow, that feels rogue, but I, yeah, why not? But why not? It's huge. It's huge. We like Bluey because Pepper Pig, I got too much of that with my nephew. He started sounding like Pepper Pig. Mommy.

I've got some real issues with Pepper Pig. Let me unpack them. Oh, there are a lot of issues with Pepper Pig. Go. Let's go. Yeah, let's discuss. Yeah, okay, I know it's not fair to do this. It's really boring for people listening, possibly.

Possibly, and also not necessarily kinds through this to Mommy Pig while she's in the postpartum. phase. Oh my God, what? But. Babes. Pepper Pig. If you've ever watched it, anyone listening, if you've ever watched Pepper Pig, Daddy Pig is the most bumbling buffoon of a man, right?

They are the definition of boomers, these people. Like, you give him a phone and he's just like, oh, what is this contraption? You know? Like, he's a nightmare. But the worst thing is, is Daddy Pig must surely be in his early 30s. Like, he is a parent of two young children. what an earth business has he got with his car being like, oh, let's put some oil in the automobile.

Like, you would be working a corporate job somewhere, wearing lily lemon trousers and a pair of on trainers, you know what I mean? Like, this is not a, you have not cast this man right. So I find that quite, I find that to be quite stressful. Okay, bug bear one. Yes. Oh, no, all my bug bears are with daddy pigs specifically. He doesn't have hopeless.

He can't do anything. And he walks into every room and they go, well, silly dad, Like, he's weaponised incompetence, can't do a fucking thing. He's fat-shaved a lot as well, isn't he? So he's also a victim, man. It's not an excuse, actually, Daddy Pig. You're a mess. Like, you can't do anything.

Mummy Pig does everything. But Mummy Pig also works. Like, these are two working parents. And yet it's Daddy Pig that's always, you know, just being hopeless. It's the mental load. It is the mental load. It's falling heavily on Mummy Pig. Can I suggest Bluey?

I love Bluey. Oh, Bluey's so good. Yeah. Why do you think we go to Bluey and? in our droves. People with... Louis, so good. I know.

So good. And they once had a scene that was like, I don't know if you remember. It was called out a lot because it was quite problematic about like weight and he like got on the scales, Bandit got on the scale, this is the dad got on scales and he was like, he'd put on weight. So he was like, I just need to do loads of exercise and they were called out for it and they deleted the scene and like redid the episode, which is really cool. Oh, that's nice.

So they're receptive to feedback. Yeah. Because they're never going to do anything, like everything right all the time. So I thought that was cool. They were like, no, we hear you. Yeah. And we're going to redo the episode. Yeah, and they talk about like Bluie's mom having a bit of postnatal,

I think, a smidge of something postnatal. Yeah. I can't watch the co-sleeping episode because apparently it's really emotional. Oh, this is adorable. You're invested. Yeah, no, I can't watch it. Because this makes me sad that one day at my end. What?

Life. My co-sleeping. Oh. No, I live under that, the weight of that every single moment. But, yeah, the co-bearable. wait to knowing that life will one day end, but no, if I see one more video on the internet being like, in 200 years, everyone you know will be dead. It's like, I know. Stangers will be living in your house and no one will remember you. I hate videos that try and like, A, pull up my heartstrings

or B, send me into an existential spin that I never asked for. Well, that's the thing. I came here to see a video of like a penguin, like best case. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not in the, Looky daycare, show me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, fine. Where's your pretty dress from? Yeah, I don't need this. Yeah, this is a fucking nightmare. Or like, give me, we can go deeper.

Give me like a psychological phenomenon, fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Show me like a new one, let's learn about it. A new star, that's nice. Some new research, a new study. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But don't show me a dying dog. Or, like, tell me that I've only got 18 summers with my kids.

Well, 17 now. Oh, God. Are you okay? No, not really. Okay, a couple of things on that. First of all, you fucking hate the summer. I hate the summer. You'll be like counting them down, another one done, another one done.

And also, how many summers have you had in your life now? 37, six. And which ones have you not spent with your parents? Zero. Exactly. You're in it for the long haul. They'll be fine. It's honestly, it's so annoying because once it gets you, it's got you.

I hate it. And it just takes, like, I just keep thinking this on like, in 200 years. Everyone will be dead. Why did they done that to me? Oh, M, can we not? Sorry, I'm doing it to you now. It's very contagious and I can't deal with that right now. No, it's not good for the soul.

No, it's not. Awkward. How did we even get there? Of God knows. Because I had something to say in that, it's gone. Oh, no mind. Bluey, co-sleeping. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Just sad about the end of that, you know, but anyway, we don't get to go out here. No, I feel like you're going to relish the opportunity to lie face down, like a hot little mess, arm spread. I did wake up with his finger in my mouth like a fish hug. Hello? Oh my God. One of my friends went fishing once with her boyfriend, where he's now her husband,

very new boyfriend at the time, and he caught her. He went fishing. What do you mean? He caught her. What do you mean? He fished. What's it called?

And they throw a line. I don't know. He threw a line, reeled a, I don't know. He threw it and caught her. It hooked on her head. I'll find your photo. They had to go to hospital. get stitches.

I think it was her eyebrow. It wasn't great. Was she in the water? No. Well, that was silly. It was just in the water. Wait. Oh, so he meant to throw it into the pool.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, behind him or something. Yeah, caught her. Yeah, they're married now. That's really horrible. I know, so good. Why is she in the water? That would be silly. Oh, you said he caught her?

Well, he did. He caught her on the last. line. I'm going to say something. Fishing. When you're doing it for like, you know, fishing, like for food, for like the fish industry. Yeah. Fine. But like when you're just doing it for a hobby. Yeah. It's a bit much, isn't it? Yeah. It's a bit mean. Isn't it? Yeah. I'm just going like, oh, I caught a big one and I'm going to smile. Smile. Yeah. Like dead fish. It's a fucking, it's a weird phenomenon, isn't it? And the thing is, is, I think, anyway, You have to just watch them die and, like, flap around until they die.

No, I think you... Oh, you conquer them. Oh, you kill them. Yeah. Well, either way, it's not great, is it? No. It's pretty horrible. Yeah, no.

That's one thing. But then just, like, I can't think of any other context. Maybe like, hey, I'm just going to get this dead thing. And then, like, we'll just put it on Facebook. That's my profile picture. All so bizarre. Yeah. Imagine it's, like, animals.

Imagine flying did that the other way around. Like, hey, look at this dentist we caught. It's my new profile picture. But no. Never that way round, is it? I don't know. Yeah, not nice. Not great.

Don't love it. And a big bucket of maggots to go with it. I don't like, I do. Yeah, it's a weird thing to do like on a Sunday. Oh my God, I'd be so bored. I'd be so bored. Yeah. I'm going to take this bucket of like maggots.

I just sit there for three hours. I'm going to put them on. I'm going to put them on. Yeah. No, no, no. Yeah, it could just go to Morrison's or. Seas old. Yeah, I don't know.

Like, if you're in the market for fish, you know, there's fish around. You've got to do it like that. I would not have thrived in the olden days. If it was down to me to forage, I'd have picked an apple. And only a really good looking apple. I wouldn't want more with dirt on or worms in. I didn't care for pears. You wouldn't just eat a lemon.

Berries, risky business. Berries are really, they're super poisonous, right? Well, sometimes, and I'm not going to be the one to work that out. So I don't really know what I'd be comfortable foraging. I'm not going to kill a rabbit. I'm going to catch a rabbit. Did you know? Did you know, phase like, when one of us

says, did you, did you know? I can see Faye like, poised her laptop, like, here we go, fat check is on. Did you know that the reason that we love sweet things so much is because when we were cavemen, or at least around that time, ish, when we were younger, literally touch typing your sentence as you say it. She's like, one of those people in a courtroom that has to write everything as it's happening. The witness. When the human race was.

much younger. I don't know how young. When we had to forage and we had to find our own food, the things that we picked that were sweet weren't poisonous and that's why we love. So it's something like an evolutionary. Yeah. It's not evolutionary. It's like so yeah, it's like an old. Yeah, because bitter things are bad. We're bad. Yeah, so you have to cook them to make them less bitter. Faye doesn't look sure. No, you're right. Oh, it is. I know you're right on this. Yeah, there you go. That's why you get a potato. If you eat a potato, bitter, but you cook a potato. That's why we love sweet. things and obviously the food industry is capitalized on that and put like sweet stuff on

steroids. We've got another fact. Fab! Did you know that a crispy cream, amazing, crispy cream original glazed donut is the like the ideal, the optimum amount of fat versus sugar for it to like, I think it's like ding our reward center basically. Ding our reward Center. Light up our reward centre. Apparently. I saw a TikTok. No, that could be wrong.

I saw a TikTok that said it's the equivalent of taking crack. In terms of the reward centre. I await the fact check with baited breath. I feel like we've got like a birds live view umpire sitting in the corner to whether is the point allowed? Was it in? Hit me.

Out. I'm ready to defend this, go. I can't find, well, I've only got an AI over you. You just watched a TikTok video of a Krispy Kreme superfan. It's like, Krispy Kremes are delicious. They taste like crack. And Alv like, oh my God. Did you know, Krisries?

I swear, it said, it's like the optimal amount of fat and sugar, like, combined to light up the reward center and, like, basically just... Yeah, but Al, I could walk outside right. now and start filming a video saying the sun in the sky at this exact height is just about enough that it lights up my inner reward system. Do you know what? I'm not going to bring any more facts to the pod. How about that? How about that? Okay. How about that? In fact, I might just not speak. How about that? In fact, I'm here. Enjoy that one, Amy. See. Right. It's just me go. How about that? You do love a crispy green though. Maybe you love crack. I will

break you. Fine. Okay. Alex Light loves crack. Stop it. You see what it. That's not a good soundbite. This is a problem though. If we just pick up on sound bites and we spit them off as fat, before you know it, should I delete our listeners everywhere? We'll be walking around telling them how I love fishing and you love crack. Al's put the crack down. Boy, Al's back. And he's here to do his horsey noise. Oh my God, that's so, that's so good. If I had closed my eyes, I'd have thought there's a horse in there was. That was so good.

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God, I feel like we've been around the houses, and I don't feel like we've gone anywhere, relevant. But I have an awkward. Please. Just a little one. I uploaded a photo of my nipple onto Instagram. Did you? I didn't see it. Yeah, you blink and you miss it.

I got a DM. Just one, though, because about like, by this point, It had been up for about an hour. It had like 11,000 people had seen it. And one person DM being like, hey, babe, go and see your nipple. I was like, you motherfuckers. When? When was this?

Yesterday. Why? Well, obviously, I was been breastfeeding, but then I just forgot to put it away. Oh, well done. Yeah, it was just hanging there. Hanging out. Yeah, not great. It's really embarrassing.

A nipple in isolation is not a sexy thing. It really isn't, is it? I love the meme that goes around. It's like the guy who's wearing like a fishnet top and his nipple is just like poking through, just perfectly poking through. That's intimate. What's it cool? The people are scared of holes?

Tripophobia. It's me. I hate it. That sounds triggering. It is, it is quite triggering. The nipple through the hole. Did you see, oh, there's this, oh, there's this, um, there's this Instagram. And actually, like, objectively it's really cool, but like a woman covered a mannequin with daisies.

Yes. And then let them bloom. Gorgeous. Yeah, you hated her, sorry, and you... Is that not on me, a skin crawl? No, I did make my skin crawl, though. I had a dream a couple of nights ago that I squeezed a spot on my face, and you know when you order a package,

and there's, like, white polystyrene little, like, wotsets. It came out. Yeah, but, like, it happened, like, three or four times. And they just kept, like, springing... Or, like, a Nerf gun. You know, there's, like, little sort of rubbery... It was, like, a cross between one of those, like, polystyrene wotsets and a Nerf gun. bullet just kept going

plop. Yeah. I find spot picking very satisfying but that feels like too much. I only want to do it on myself I don't want to watch anybody else. I love watching Peter. Do you? But you hate holes? Yeah, but there's something like sick about it that like it is like it repulses me

and satisfies me in equal measure. It's like the crispy cream hybrid. There's the perfect amount of fat and sugar to what was the exact phrasing please? Ding the reward system. Ding, I've been rewarded. I don't know. My system's been rewarded.

It's, it's, the, yeah, it's very compelling and I don't really know why, but it's horrible at same time. It's disgusting. I feel like that's how you live, though. That's it, though. I feel like that's kind of how you live. It's like, I hate this, but I, yes, but I'm satisfied by you, what you specifically. I feel you have a unique way of life.

Me? Yes. Like, more sense? Do you think your way of life is normal? Yeah. Do you think everyone operates like you do? Yeah. Like, what sense?

Like what you just said? No. No? No. No, you're wonderful. I mean, thanks. Really? Yeah, yeah.

The perfect hybrid is wonderful and weird. Deng, the reward system. Yeah, no, I don't think you're very normal. Oh. But I think that's nice. You think I'm like, not like a thing else. I don't think you like the other girls. We've done this.

We have done this. You speak French. Yeah. You're better. So much better. Okay, well... You said that to Dex earlier that he wasn't like the other boys

and I keep thinking about how we should say that more. I know. Why do they never say they're not like the other boys? Not like other boys. Yeah, it's so weird, isn't it? I would love that.

I want that added to the boy boss inventory of things to make... Yeah. I want our fridge magnets. I want a boy boss fridge magnet so badly. I feel like we actually have to get off our asses and do something about the fridge magnets because we keep talking about it,

keep teasing it, phase nodding. And people are like... but like, come on, guys, come on. We could also do phone cases because I'm going to be honest, who has a magnetic fridge in this day and age? Well, I was going to say, I actually don't have one. No, me neither. Or pop sockets.

I'm still, you love a pop socket. I love a pop socket. Yeah, I find it so weird that you don't have one. I don't know how you operate with that one. I don't know where to find one. I tell you what, everyone else has got, and they've got little bracelets for their phones. Do you know what?

I had one of those and it was amazing. I want one of those really badly. Yeah. I mean, I found one on a street vending street. street vendor in Paris I found one I hate you when I was in Paris

Paris France but you can buy them you can buy them here also apparently what's apparently in French I'm not I'm not not

have you see no mind there's an email yes someone has broken up their boyfriend after listening to the episode oh shit

we gave that on the advice Oh my God, yes. Was it the same woman? No, it's a different person. Okay, do you want to read it or do you want us to read it? Oh yeah, you could read it. Do you mind? Do you mind? No.

Okay. Put you on the spot, sorry. Dear M and Alex, my twin sister and I listen to every podcast episode that comes out. It feels like a little shared activities that connects me to her, even though we live far apart. Right, well, I was going to cry, so just leave me a little for a moment while I do that. I listen to your episode, Just Us. are we all arguing with our partners? I think your advice was great

and it pushed me to think deeply about my relationship. We've been fighting a lot. I've been unhappy for more than a year of our four-year relationship. This week, I finally had enough. Your words and advice

helped me finally put myself first. I've been giving too much in this relationship and I don't feel like my partner respects or appreciates me. But damn, breaking up is hard. I have told him I want to break up but we live together

and it will be a while before he's able to move out. He is sad and very important. and he says he wants to try hard to do better. He wants to have a chance. How do I say strong in the next few days and honour the decision I made? And what are some of your favourite self-care tips for the coming days? Okay, so I'm crying. I fear my hormones can't handle this.

Mostly at the fact that you listen to it, you're twin. That's really sweet. I know. Oh my God. I want to send her like a big hug, a big radio cyber hug. That's so hard, but well done. I think that's such a little. spoken about thing that the practicalities of breaking up with someone it's so messy it's so messy like

i think we've all been like sex in the city into thinking that you're just going to like storm out the door and i'll send a friend for my stuff and it's just like that's not feasible for anybody it's like it's so much more complicated than that and also i think we're so used to seeing people as good and bad as like really binary things that it's like the fact that he's sad is really fucking hard and apologetic like that's so hard as well and like asking you for another channel and can I say this is someone for whom this hasn't been applicable but my advice would be go and listen to Adele's album 30 it's so good obviously she wrote it about finding herself after having her divorce and I found one of the songs My Little Love which she wrote to her son

I found it like so emotional but like really spoke to me when I was pregnant because it's about how she felt that she was letting her child down and it was like that's how I felt when I was ill so bit random that I got really attached to the album but I listened to it loads but then she did um a song called woman like me and it's so beautiful and in it she's basically saying like she's saying he's complacent like complacency is the worst thing to have like how could you ever lose a woman like me but that's what I would listen to I would listen to that song the album but specifically that song on repeat because it's you're not saying he's a bad person yeah but you're putting yourself first and he did let you down and like words aren't enough now and that's okay

like you're not a bad person for doing something that he deems to be a bad thing that's what I'd say listen to that song and repeat until he goes but it is really sad I'm sorry for you

it's so sad and it's messy like you end up building lives that are like in and around they're super intertwined yeah and you share friends and yeah

you share a life together and to try and extract yourself from that and then become like it's just it's really hard it's really complicated and then an added layer

of is if he's asking for you to, you know, for you to give him another chance, but it sounds like she doesn't want to and she knows that this is the right thing for her. And you just, you deserve more. If you know you deserve more, you deserve more, and you both deserve better relationships.

Yeah, but also don't, like, you know this, but don't let his words tell you something. Like, I'm a really big believer. It's just like, words only go so far. At a point, actions have to speak loud and they can't happen immediately. Like, yeah, big gesture, I'm going to buy you flowers or whatever,

but it's like, trust needs to be built. love needs to be built like and I do think you can fall back in love with someone and I do think you can like come back to somebody but I don't think anything happens from like stopping you in the moment like if you're if pausing your life isn't the answer him pausing your life you pausing your life whatever it is pausing this situation is not the answer let it play out let it go how it's going to go and when his ego is less damaged when he's less shocked when he's less upset if he still needs to show you and he still wants that then let him show you and maybe you might be in a place to receive it.

But, like, yeah, I wouldn't let it stop now because you need to play this through. You owe it to yourself. Also, yes, it's like really hard and tough and painful right now, but you've done the hardest part. Yeah. Which is making the decision and actually doing, telling him. Yeah, and you can't put those words back in a box. Like, they're out now anyway. Yeah.

And even if you were to try and make it work, they're out there now. Yeah. So something has shifted like irrevocably. I'm so proud of her. Me too. I am so proud of her. Me too. It's slightly terrifying that...

We have an influence. We have that influence on her, but it definitely sounds like it was for the good. I am deeply uncomfortable with the fact that these conversations are heard. Literally. I know. It's just us in a room. Making donkey sounds and ruining relationships. Well, don't.

Well, it's not great. I feel terrible. I think we should think a lot more before we speak. We're going to have everybody on crack. I know. Mainlining crispy creams. No. It's a disaster. Reward system

dinging all over the all over the place. Shit. That's what are we doing? Watch on Thursday morning is London dings. Dopamine levels, off the charts. Cream stands everywhere packed

and everybody dings. This has been silly. So silly. I'm so proud of this girl though and I want to give her a big hug and say like well done because this is so, that is such a difficult thing to do and like it's something that I wish I'd

brave enough to do at certain points in my life and I wasn't I just wasn't brave enough so yeah I'm really proud of you and well done it excites me so much to see women like particularly I don't know like getting to a point where where we've been told and we've always felt like it's time to settle down like you get to your late 20s or you get to your early 30s and it's like oh you should be settling that really don't want to be left on the shell yeah yeah people are like no like there's a Connor brother's piece of art that they made for charity that we actually have at home it's Ashley James in it and it says better alone than lonely with you and I love it like I love it I think about that quote all the time I think I think it transcends relationships to well it transcends

romantic relationships to be friendships to be family dynamics it's like you don't need to feel lonely within your own life you deserve not to and you will be okay on your own and I think we're so scared to be on our own I could just start applying that to like my yes oh my god what if I realise it about you. It's going to make the podcast really difficult, isn't it? Make it a bit lonely. Yeah, a bit lonely. That live show that we're doing in Edinburgh in September

it's going to be awkward. Yeah, just be you talking, wait, hang on, who's going? Oh. Well, if I make the decision to pull out, then it's got to be you, really, hasn't it? Wait, no, if you make the decision to pull out, you've got to go. Oh, I see. You don't get to just pull out and then stay. Torrah.

Hey, I'm going to quit the podcast, so off you trod. if you break up with me you've got to go I get the house that's what I mean if I make the decision to leave then you've got the podcast Oh hell yeah Yeah yeah

So you have to do the live show Yeah fine I mean harsh that I'm leaving you to do it by yourself But that's you know That's how it goes isn't it Like the person that leaves leaves You pack your bags You go

Yeah yeah of course And you leave the Except in this situation I think it wouldn't be very empowering Who does I mean it's hard to call it Because I feel like there's an unspoken thing Like who keeps the house

But I feel like in every relationship If I said who keeps the house, everyone would know who kept the house that they lived in. Oh my God, do you think? Who keeps your house? I don't know. What? I don't know. I suppose you've just built it.

Yeah, and basically Dave built it. It's probably Dave's house, isn't it? With his bare hands. I think it's Dave's house. I think that's probably Dave's house. Yeah. Interesting. I know, how interesting.

Who would keep your house? I think it'd probably be me because the mother stays with the children in the house because you've got to keep it the same. Yeah, yeah. You've got to uproot the kids. conversation the other day because it was like, oh my God, we're grownups now where you have to think, like, we can't just leave this house. The children are attached to the house. Not literally. But they've grown in it. We planted them in the corner. But yeah, it's weird, isn't it? It's really weird. Oh, I also don't like that. Don't worry. Are you, what's the happen? Where's the worry? I just need to text Dave and Jackie's not leaving. That man's not going anywhere. I just need to be assurance. Where would he go? Honestly, you guys, now, like this is, I take quite a lot of peace in that. I just think, I don't think Alex has got the energy to go right now. Where would they go?

I know. Where would you go? Where would you go? I've got your kids, so. Okay, well. Oh, Matt. Oh, Matt. On that really sad and depressing note.

You're going to text Dave, aren't you? I am going to text. What's it going to say? I need a quick rate. Are you planning on leaving me any time soon? I actually wanted to talk about that because, Oh, it's too late now. What is it?

It's too late. Tease it. Okay, I'll tease it for next week. But that video clip of me talking about running around the house after him. Didn't go viral on TikTok, but it got like more views and went to an audience that doesn't follow us or doesn't know who we are, whatever. And people think I'm really toxic. You're toxic? I don't disagree.

But it's still hurt to read. Oh my God. Give that man space. Leave him alone. If a man was running after the woman who wanted to get away and have some of space. basis would be a different conversation it wouldn't be funny and I was like Dave posted the door open he's fine yeah exactly if he wanted space he could get space he's made his choice so yeah he married you like this he loves you no you're not toxic

but if you are we love you anyway thank you thank you thank you at least I know it now self-aware I haven't had a text from age for me for ages ask if I was going to quit the podcast are you too safe have I made you too comfortable oh my god I fear you're getting too comfortable yeah I think it's time we put on some laundry Make you feel a little special. Take me out of dinner once in a while. Stop texting other people in front of me. Organise other live shows.

No. Gotta go. Okay. This has been... Really fun. A lot. A lot. We even know what this has been.

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