Should I Delete That? - Just Us: Do you want to see my bum?

Episode Date: March 13, 2025

Welcome to the new format of our Thursday episodes - this is where everything with Just Us will live: GBA, Is It Just Me and all our general nonsense! And - boy - we have got a lot of nonsense for yo...u today! Al’s bads are BAD today. We find out about her very bad week - and we’re even treated to a little bit of nudity. Lucky Dex! We also discuss a mega star who gave us a ‘polite decline’ - then we catch ourselves being potentially a tiny bit problematic. Do you want to weigh in on whether it’s okay for us to objectify men? It is different when men and women do it? Email us on shouldideletethat@gmail.comWe love you! Follow us on Instagram:@shouldideletethat@em_clarkson@alexlight_ldnShould I Delete That is produced by Faye LawrenceStudio Manager: Dex RoyVideo Editor: Celia GomezSocial Media Manager: Emma-Kirsty FraserMusic: Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, welcome back. Shall I delete that? We're back. We were back last week. Oh my God, sorry. You've had a week. We're back with GBA though. Yeah. That's fun. The new format's here and it's here to stay. Hope you don't hate it. Yeah, we've not had much feedback about it, but that's okay. People are probably confused. They're sick of us. I'm tired. Do you want to tell them you're bad? oh my bad
Starting point is 00:00:31 you're bad why do you want to start absolute shocker the good news is we don't have to pixelate your face today which did feel like a very I was trying to offer solutions like you're in the emergency
Starting point is 00:00:42 tell the list of what's happened if they missed it if you missed it case you missed it I want to say fell but I flew down the stairs I don't know what happened I honestly can't tell you what happened
Starting point is 00:00:54 but I went flying downstairs and we've got a radiator at the bottom of our stairs and I hit my tooth on the radiator and it broke off. You do have really slippery stairs I'm just picturing the scene.
Starting point is 00:01:08 I know, I know. They're lethal. They're the wood. Yeah, did you have socks on? So I put grippers on them. So they do have grippers on them so I don't really know what's happened
Starting point is 00:01:17 and I don't actually think I slipped but they're really steep. Do you remember? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I just don't know what's happened. And you just fell. And I just went flying. Oh, me.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Flying. Yeah, I hit the radiator. I don't know how to describe what tooth this is. I should, as I was on the phone to the emergency dental, they're like, what tooth? I was like, not the front tooth, but kind of the front. I was like, well, the one next to the front teeth. It's one of the ones at the front, but it's not like top two.
Starting point is 00:01:37 It's like, it's like third position on the podium. Moeller, I want to say, maybe. No, no, no, molas are right back. Oh, right. Fang? It's not a fang. It's the one before the fang. What are they? In between the ring finger, but of your face.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Like the ring finger tooth. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not these two. Not the fingering ones. Not the ring finger. Yeah, it's the ring finger, not the baby finger.
Starting point is 00:01:57 It's the ring, it's not the fingering was, is that what you just said? I'm like, oh, my God, that passed me by. Oh, whenever I see those, even because I'm like, ew. Not the fingering fingers, the one next to the fingering fingers. So not your fingering teeth, but your ring teeth, your ring tooth. My ring tooth. Oh, mate, so bad. And I had to ask, I already asked, but it was like my first question when you got in this one, but where's the tooth?
Starting point is 00:02:25 So it's, Dave has saved it, picked it up and it's in a little envelope in our top drawer. I took it, I was very optimistic. So I went to the emergency dentist that night and she was, it was late, she was stressed, fine. I didn't really get much of her, like, here's what's going to happen. It was just like, you've broken your tooth, the nerve is exposed, let's put a dressing on it, fucking killed. Oh, me. So painful. Oh, me.
Starting point is 00:02:53 And nerve pain. Oh, my. So she put the dressing on and then she was just like, you need to go to your doctor tomorrow. So I went a dentist. So I rocked up to the dentist with my little, my little envelope,
Starting point is 00:03:04 my little baggie. And I was like, can you glue my tooth back on? He was like, oh, it doesn't work like that. I forgive you for thinking that, though, because they can do that with fingers. Well, when I looked online, it said keep, if you've got the tooth, keep it.
Starting point is 00:03:16 So I was like, we'll probably presume it so they can just stick it back on. No, so that you can leave it for the tooth fairy and earn a pound. turn this negative into something good making money out of this tip of my elbow with the pillow but nothing happened
Starting point is 00:03:29 no Dave so when he's like that's not what happened there's like a trauma pathway two weeks I have to have another x-ray and have to wait four weeks another four weeks I was like oh
Starting point is 00:03:38 and then I was like can you do so can you just do anything and he was like oh it doesn't look that bad and I was like no no please you need to do something like I can't walk around like this it's like I feel really self-conscious
Starting point is 00:03:50 so he added like a blob on And it looks, for what it is, it looks great. I'm staring at your mouth. Yeah. Because we're talking about the fact your tooth fell out. But it looks fine. Yeah. It looks fine.
Starting point is 00:04:01 If you like go close up, it's yellow and rather than like tooth color. But it's like better than a big gaping hole. Oh, mate. Like a pirate. Obviously it went, the tooth went into my gum. Oh. Yeah, you can see that. And it's all fat and black.
Starting point is 00:04:17 And your bum. My bum! Your bum! I thought the florist might have had a laugh when I was trying to. Oh, right. you sent me flowers it was so nice i know but i was like i wrote she's going to be like what because it was a get well soon card i was like sorry about your tooth and your bomb and i was like someone has to hand write that
Starting point is 00:04:32 i'm like what's i'm doing a tooth in her bum oh my god my bum shall i show it on camera yeah show them should i show them although we are one incident like this away from decks filing an hr complaint i think do you mind if i show my button i think you have to ask permission Yeah, oh my God, you've got view of the camera Yeah, can you look away Wait, how do I do this? Not actually showing my bum
Starting point is 00:04:57 You can't, it's on your bum I don't know if I can Just show me Maybe not Just show me Oh my God Oh my God That's so much worse
Starting point is 00:05:08 Oh my God! It's all over my time Oh my God How far down does that go? It's so, it's on my ribs as well Oh my God And then it's yeah it's all done. And my friend who's a doctor messaged me. She saw her on Instagram. She
Starting point is 00:05:25 messes me. She's like, can you send me a picture of that like nonsense? Like not a censored once I censored. She was like, you need to go and get like it checked. So I am going to go tonight. That's really fucking bad. I'm going to go. I'm going to go to the minor injuries tonight and see. That's not a minor injury. Oh, that's so much worse than what I thought. But I have no idea how I hit both my tooth. And my mom, no idea. I don't know how I did it. Fuck, I don't know how did it. that's genuinely I think I rebounded off the radiator
Starting point is 00:05:53 because there's only a bit of space between the stairs and the radiator so I think I've rebounded either oh my God, I don't know I don't know why I have such a visceral reaction like generally I laugh in situations like this
Starting point is 00:06:06 but I can't even this isn't even funny this is really bad oh my God so yeah so that was awful that was fun fuck does that really hurts
Starting point is 00:06:17 it really hurts Jesus. Oh my God. I know. Isn't that wild? That that could just happen in your own house. Honestly, I know. I know. You pay, you know what I mean? I pay rent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You pay for that to happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. God, that's infuriating. I did, I did pay for that to happen. I hadn't thought about it like that. That's horrible. Hold the banister, guys. Let this be your sign. Hold the banister. Look where you're going. Be careful. Good advice. Don't trip down the stairs. These warnings. You know, I've fallen down the stairs more times than I care to admit.
Starting point is 00:06:49 I don't know why I just fall down the stairs an awful lot. Do you? Do you fall down on your bottom? Did I not tell you about this stuff? Like the, it's like become like folklore in our family the time I fell down the stairs on Christmas morning. No. God, I think so. A bit of light relief for you.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Finally, something we can laugh at. A full we can find funny. So my mum got me a pair of pyjamas for Christmas. It was a few years ago at her house. And I was really, you know, it's Christmas morning. I was excited. and I had my um they were a bit long for me and they were sat in and I went to sit and I went on the very top step and mum and cat were in the kitchen and they heard me go whee and then boom boom boom boom boom and I like hit every single one way down
Starting point is 00:07:31 and then mom's got a wall right at the bottom because she's got stairs it's really old house she's got stairs hit the wall and then they turn a corner so I hit the wall and then came down the remaining three steps in a heap and um yeah it was really it was bad but I was fine so it was funny But Katty started laughing and my mum just went and just like, you lifted up a finger and she went, wait. And then she looked at me. She's like, are you okay? And I was like, yeah. And then she's like, now you can laugh.
Starting point is 00:07:55 So, yeah. You could have hurt your cocksick. Oh, no, I really did. It was like, I was okay within the realm of like, nothing's broken. Yeah. My pride. But battered in bruise. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Nothing like that, though, Al. I've never seen such a bad bruise in my life. Mental. I don't know how I did it. Jesus. So. Fucking gravity. I know.
Starting point is 00:08:14 I know. Isn't it? it was so horrible. I don't want to be like, well, intrusive thought to you, but like, you can just have an accident any time, can't you? No, one could. I know, but I feel like I lived with this before that. I lived with, I lived with that, that knowledge anyway,
Starting point is 00:08:30 and now it's just like extra bare. Yeah, it's like right at the forefront of my head, of my mind. And I refuse to take Tommy up and downstairs now. Dave's doing it. He's taking him up or taking them down. You know the house you're building? Yes, unfortunately. Not a bungler. I could get a lifted.
Starting point is 00:08:48 You get an escalator. This morning, I like shouted Dave when he slept on the couch because Paul Betty's got diarrhea. Oh, it's a bad week in the middle of her. She's going out literally every hour on the hour for a poo. Like, bless her. So he slept on the couch and then Tommy woke up, but I was like, I can't bring him downstairs. So I was like, Dave, will you come and get us? Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:09:09 That's stressful. It's very stressful. I don't know about you. I very much resent when one of the dogs, when something wakes me up that isn't the baby? Very much so. Like, if it wakes me up, I'm like, I can't do this with you. I love you so much, but get a grip.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Keep those cheeks clothes. That's how I felt initially. Then I realized that she was in a pretty bad way. She's got the squits. She's got like massive squits. Can't help her. Someone's got your voodoo doll and everything havoc on the life. I was so happy to get out of the house.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Also a bit like, are you going to be okay, Betty? No, you're going to come home to a lot of shit. I had to throw five of Tommy's toys away the other day because she, needed a poo while we were out and she just went to his corner and just shot all over them and honestly I tidied the place as well and so I put all the toys in the corner so the rest of the place was completely clear and she decided to go over to his corner and basically like just like spray gunned everywhere what do you call it like that does it oh me I know I don't think there's space for anything else in this segment I think your bards can be a nice
Starting point is 00:10:11 sorry I've really taken over here have you got anything for me Nothing that bad. Anything good? I do have something good. Go on. I've restarted couch to 5K. You have well done. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:10:22 And you're done? I've done two. How does it work? You go one minute, then two minutes? No, so you've got, I think it goes for 10 weeks or nine weeks, and then you've got three runs a week. Okay. And then within the runs, like, obviously the first one is like you do five-minute warm-up walk, 60-second run, 90-second recovery walk eight times. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:43 And then, so you're running for eight minutes, but not consecutive. Okay. And then you've got the five-minute cool-down at the end. Right. And then every week, I think it ups to like, you've got 90 seconds running, six seconds, or whatever it is, until within 10 weeks you will be running a 5K, which is amazing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:58 So I used it when I was recovering from my birth with Arlo, and it took, I think I did it in seven weeks when I was recovering. I think it might be a little bit easier for me this time, and I don't know why. But I think it's because I literally ran the marathon within the year. Yeah. Um, so physically I don't feel too bad, but I need to be careful of my wound. Can you fast track it if you want? Yeah, you can.
Starting point is 00:11:22 A lot like, yeah, because I, well, I did say on Instagram I wanted to and then I got some DM and it's being like, no, you can't. And I was like, wait, sorry, is it's 5K or 10K? 5K. 5K. So I'm using couch to 5K to get back to 5K and I'm going very gently. And I'm only doing it and I want to put a caveat. I'm only doing it with the blessing of the women's health physio because this is very soon
Starting point is 00:11:38 to run after a C-section. Is it? Yes. Like, I, with Arlo, I waited until 17 weeks. Right. And I was 10 weeks since time. But you've had sign off since fine. But I've had sign off.
Starting point is 00:11:48 And I haven't had sign off to go for a 5K run. I've had sign off to do character 5K. Fine. Gentle, gentle. Nice. With a view to be like properly running in like three weeks. So I'm doing it with her advice. Did you love it when you first started running?
Starting point is 00:12:00 Oh my God, I loved it. You get a cried when I finished. Did you? I was as happy finishing couch a 5K week one as I was finishing the marathon last year. I had that same level of emotion. I would love to feel what you experience when you run or after you run. Is it this huge like, I just felt really happy. Endorphin here.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Yeah. It must be. I feel so free when I run. Like, I just feel, and like I realize, oh God, I'm really getting into ice baths. It's becoming. I can't even engage with this. No, it's becoming quite. I'm refusing to engage with the Instagram content about it.
Starting point is 00:12:28 It's becoming a constant. Like, it's not, it's like, it was like a ha-ha-ha hobby. And now it's like, no, I do this now. Not ironically. I realize I have a slight issue with it. Go on. I am using it quite medicinally. which makes me, so I have found running an ice baths, same thing.
Starting point is 00:12:48 I get this hit of like, yeah, and I find that very effective because when I get very overstimulated, which obviously parenting is, or if I get very stressed or like whatever. Yeah. When I, my release from the stress that I hold on to is running, but I am finding, obviously I can't go for a run every time I have a problem because then I'm literally running away. Right. So I'm finding ice bath is quite effective. So at the end of the day, like Friday, went to a funeral.
Starting point is 00:13:12 was, had six hours in the car with Zanthi. She's been poorly, so we had three hours there, three hours back. Arlo had been with our friend, which was so nice of him, but like, so she was out of her routine because she had a wacky day out with her godfather. And then she threw like a whole load of dough balls at me when we got back. And I was like, oh, my God, I'm so overstimulated. And I just, like, I just didn't know what to do. And I was like, ice bath.
Starting point is 00:13:31 And I got in the ice bath. And Arlo was watching her. I was like, amazing activity for her. Because, like, what's mommy doing? Silly mommy. She says a lot. But, and I got in there. And it was like, all the stress, all the problems.
Starting point is 00:13:42 They're just gone. So I was like, wow, this is incredibly effective for when I'm feeling stressed. Unfortunately, now whenever I feel stressed, I'm like, to the ice bath, which is not great. Because I'm just going to, not the easiest. No, and I will literally live in there. Do you take your head under as well? Fuck no. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:14:01 No, no, shoulders only. So, I mean, ice baths famously, very dopamine inducing. Yes. So it must be that that you're experiencing. It's the same with the running, yeah. it's like I just get this and like I'm quite a high energy person That's interesting because okay
Starting point is 00:14:19 Anyway so I think like it matches my Like the spikes match Do you know what I mean? Like when I feel like the flare of stress Or the flare of whatever I think I realise that I need the flare of release as well I'm learning quite love by myself You're just kind of living outside in the ice bath
Starting point is 00:14:35 I'm never inside How are you making it constantly icy though Well this is the benefit of March So I'm actually I just leave it. I'm not putting ice ice in it. I let it get really cold want and then there's a little thermometer in it.
Starting point is 00:14:47 It's not zero degrees. Is that what it should be? No, no, no. It's between, I mean, I can get nerdy about it. I think it's between three and six degrees at the moment, depending on the weather outside. And to be honest, I think they say with women that you shouldn't go to zero.
Starting point is 00:15:01 I don't think it's actually great for you. And I think they, I was reading a thing saying like seven degrees is like optimal for women to do this, I think. I'm not sure about that. But I don't, also, I'm not like, there's no hero. Like, I'm not trying to win a bravery award. You don't know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:15:12 I don't need to get into a zero degree. Like I don't need to break the eyes with my feet. You just want the dopamine. I just want my dopamine and I'm getting it at six degrees. I'm going to run with it. I'm sickened that I feel influenced. Oh my God, do you want a fucking ice bath?
Starting point is 00:15:27 Do you want to come here? Oh, come on. Oh, come on, it be so strong. Give the people what they want. But you wear? Does it make costume? You really aren't engaging with the content, are you? I could tell you that I did it naked.
Starting point is 00:15:35 I thought you had a swimming cap on in that content. I had a hat on. Yeah, a hat on. Well, I'm going to buy some gloves. Okay. Some neoprene gloves and socks. Do hardcore ice bathers duck their heads as well. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Because I imagine you get extra dopamine then that lasts for extra long. I imagine you get brain fees. No, I know what you're trying to do. You're trying to talk me into it. I am a little bit. No, I don't. I want to know. I want to get the neoprene gloves and socks because I think that'll help.
Starting point is 00:15:58 But I went in like a lake. But then surely you're, you want, well, then you're just protecting yourself from the hit, no? From the like intensity. So the thing that it, the thing that the extremities are the bugger. They're the thing that really like. Right. When I went swimming, the other day when I got in with my hands because it was really cold I think it was like
Starting point is 00:16:15 three degrees on in this lake which was way worse in the ice bar but I was freezing but put my hands in big mistake when I keep my hands above the water looking like a little weirdo yeah um feel way better so it's like you feel it more in the so you can actually stay in longer if your hands are okay I don't mind it in my feet but I do mind it in my hands oh it's not around the ribs like around that's so sensitive the nipples are a lot if I'm on this Particularly the breastfeeding. Oh, yeah. I'm literally making milk shakes here.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Like, it's not great. Is it? I'm like, I'm Mr. Whippy dispenser. It's freezing. But, yeah, it's, I don't know, it's, I don't, I fear that it's just becoming quite permanent. But also, we've got Ross living with us. You know, we've got Alex's best friend living with us. That is how you make ice cream, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:17:01 I'm just thinking it's milk. Just make it really cold. Milk. Sugar. Ice, sugar. Sugar. Sugar. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:06 I'm sweet enough, honey. Oh, I hate that. Horrible. Horrible. Okay, well, I love this new hobby for you. I'm hoping that when Ross goes, it stops. Like, it won't. Well, we do it together.
Starting point is 00:17:17 It might do. Well, we kind of, we hug each other off. You know, we're like, oh, let's go. Yeah. How many times are you doing it? Oh, no, no, no, just once. I don't do it more than once in a day? Fine.
Starting point is 00:17:25 I feel like, I feel like that gets a bit weird then. Do you know what I mean? Then it's like, no, I need to go to therapy. Yeah, no. Yeah. Because that's the thing. When I had it last night, and it was like, it was really dark and I was just really stressed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:37 And I was like, I need to get in the ice bath. I was like, no, no, no. That's like, it's a slippery slope. Oh my God, it's like, it's becoming an addiction. I know, it's like crack. But, worse. Five years time, they'll be like, that time of the ice bath addiction. Frozen in the corner.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I'm mummified when I'm like an ice statue. Well, actually, but that makes sense because like anything that spikes dopamine like that is addictive, isn't it? Like, I think I'm addicted to exercise. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's why I was depressed when I was pregnant. I think you are. didn't have any of the spikes. I don't want to fix it.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Like, I'm happy with the system. But, like, I think that's why I was so unhappy. And I think that's why I'm so happy now. Interesting. Very interesting. Maybe we should get some of the past place. Yeah, it's going to say, like, who did I talk about this? I love this stuff.
Starting point is 00:18:23 But I don't want anyone to fix it. I don't want that to go away. It would be good if I had other coping mechanisms. That's what I was going to say. Let's expand the toolbox. Let's put some more tools in toolbox. I don't need to now. I don't need to now. I've got a knife bar and I've got training it.
Starting point is 00:18:36 You know, I'm fine. I'm fine. Also, the ice bath is going to be, I'm a bit worried about what's going to happen in the summer because then I'm just going to have a pot of warm water in the garden. If you break your leg and then you can't exercise, like I think that's why we need more coping mechanisms. I've got the ice bath. I'll be fine. This is it now. Look, I've got cast on, so you can't go in the ice back. Put me it upside down like a lollipop. Just, Alex, don't queue in. To be honest, I'm serious. Like a bobby for apples. When I was pregnant and I was very depressed.
Starting point is 00:19:07 When I was very depressed, when I was very low, the therapist said, run cold water, run cold water onto your wrists and your hands and your face. Because I was having, and we can talk to a therapist about this,
Starting point is 00:19:22 but I'm here or whatever, but like I was having this like fight or flight. It was like, I'd push myself really, really hard. I can't even put myself back in that headspace, but I'd be very, very, like, over, it was like when I ran out of things, when I ran out of, like, energy for the day.
Starting point is 00:19:36 and then I just couldn't cope and I started getting really emotional and like just I couldn't cope with things. Yeah. She would, she was telling me to run cold water on my wrist. Does she say why? Because the cold water does trigger the release.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Okay. Oh, that's so interesting. Yeah. So I think that's, I actually think that's why I'm enjoying it now as a, like as a bigger tool. Because I was using it when I was pregnant anyway. That is really interesting.
Starting point is 00:20:01 To kind of like reset myself. Like when I was getting really like, like, not panicky, but like just, couldn't cope with anything and I was getting really emotional and whatever and I'd run out of energy like I did find it quite an effective reset that's really interesting yeah because I've heard of it for cooling yourself down because isn't that where on your wrist isn't that where like the big artery is oh well yeah famously yeah that's dark sorry yeah horrible but you're but don't do that sorry because there's good look on how white I am sure oh my god look at me
Starting point is 00:20:32 I'm a big artery oh and you I think of course you but big arteries so apparently if you if you you're super hot and you can't cool down, you run it on your wrist because... Because it's hot. Because that, then, that big artery... Gets cold. Helps everywhere. I actually don't know, but apparently... Clearly.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Well, that was a lot. I remember my Belgian teacher telling us. That was a lot. Anything else good or bad or awkward? No, I mean, we've overrun the segment, so should we go into some... Is it just me territory? Of course we've massively overrun the segment. But that's...
Starting point is 00:20:59 That was the point. Well, this was only supposed to be 10 minutes long this segment, so we've... Fucked up at the first hurdle. Gorgeous. Oh. While you're away, um... This is horrible.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Whatever you're about to say is horrible. You may be very anxious. Oh, while you were away, long balls. Oh, while you're away. How do we tell her this? No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Calm down.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Where's the ice bath? Calm down. You get the ice bath. Tom is going on. Um, we, we had a bit of false hope. We thought there was a megastar coming onto the podcast. Oh. Megastar.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Hit me. You can be rude about her because she said no. No, no. So Lena Dunham, we thought, wanted to come on the podcast. Oh, no. Yes. We had an email from, not her agent. It was from, it was from someone who worked, she's got a new film out or a new series out.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Lena Dunham. And like the people who look after that series, like not her agents, but like people look after a series, were sorting segments for her to appear on podcasts. And we got the call up. We got, okay. We got an email saying, do you want to interview her? Yeah. So I was like, obviously.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Yeah. I would be fascinated to interview her. Yeah. She's had a crazy time in the public eye. Crazy time in the public eye. Yeah, a lot of it, crazy, like a lot of it problematic. It was very up and down. But I would be so interested to talk to her.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Alas, she doesn't want to talk to us. Turns out. It was false hope. Oh, God. I know. How did that manifest? It's a polite It's a polite decline
Starting point is 00:22:37 That was the word, wasn't it? Bless her, she's really nice to go A polite decline Yeah, a polite decline I know A polite decline It was a polite decline So it wasn't
Starting point is 00:22:45 It was nowhere near as savage As Robert Wilson's decline It's good for us I think To stay humble Keep us humble Yeah I read her
Starting point is 00:22:56 Autobo Did you? It's one of the first books I read actually Was her autobiote One of the first sort of in that genre
Starting point is 00:23:03 not nonfiction yeah what was it called what was her book called did you listen to the celebrity book club about it not that kind of girl yeah i actually i'm quite fascinated by then now she's not coming on we can talk about her i suppose yeah i'm really fascinated about you listen to the episode the celebrity memoir yeah episode about that book right yeah see if i'd have read that book in isolation without any other commentary around it i thought it was a good book was it yeah I liked it, obviously she'd been found to be problematic since. I mean, she had an absolute shocker. What does she say about
Starting point is 00:23:36 the abortion? Yeah, she said, I haven't had she, she ended this big, long, I think it was an apology video. It was a kind of pro, I think it was a pro-choice campaign. That's it, it was pro-choice campaign. Which was a very important campaign. And she ended the video, her video, that I think
Starting point is 00:23:53 was really good until this point, she ended up saying I haven't had an abortion, but I wish I had. Which is an insane thing to say. Which was a bit bonkers. This is totally nuts. So I think, yeah, I just feel like she's had some clangers. She has, she's had some very public clanglers, yeah. I actually don't know enough about it.
Starting point is 00:24:10 I do feel a bit like if she was a man, would people be holding her to this higher standard? No, if she was, if she looked different, would people be holding her to this higher standard? I think there is an element of like fat phobia in it and like, I think that's kind of like a, I think people get a bit like with her that she's not presenting in the way that we expect women to present. Yeah. But then also she's had some amazate clang and so I don't know. But I did like that book. I mean, the commentary around her body has been like pretty horrific from the off. Horrendous.
Starting point is 00:24:38 I think it was Joan Rivers. Yes, it was. Yeah. Who said some really horrible stuff about her on fashion police. Yeah, yeah. Was it a radio thing? Maybe. Yeah, it was just saying, yeah, like basically to take your body away.
Starting point is 00:24:52 No one wants to see your body. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're not thin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, she would be super duper interesting to talk to. So interesting to talk to. So interesting to talk. And I really liked girls.
Starting point is 00:25:03 I get, I really get the, you know, like it's not representative of real life in New York. I get that it was not diverse. I get that it was not realistic. But I mean, by that, like, friends wasn't. Sex and the City wasn't. Like, I do think we're holding her to a standard because she's a bit woke. Yes, and she's a bit different. So it's like she's like, we're leaning towards diversity here with this, like, different body.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Like, she's no Carrie Bradshaw. So why isn't she? representing and people are everyone yeah but I really like the series yeah they're all horrible they're all extremely unlikable yeah which I thought was but I did like a series reading her book you realize that they're all her are they yeah which is different iterations of her which is super interesting that's so interesting and she's created great art with herself yeah do you know what I mean from herself with herself by herself and I don't know we're not very good at oh I don't know I don't know enough about I don't know enough about her and her controversies to be honest
Starting point is 00:26:00 I don't. We're probably like skipping over some, but... Yeah, no, I've no doubt that we are. But I did like girls, and I loved Adam Driver in it. I loved him. Why is he so incredibly sexy? He is so sexy. Even when he's horrible in girls.
Starting point is 00:26:16 And he's like, I'm like, shower. But still. Is that again? Shower. What are you saying? What do you mean? Shower? Shower.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Shower. Get in the shower. Oh my God. I thought you were saying. I thought you were saying I thought you were saying What do you think I thought you were saying
Starting point is 00:26:36 What are you saying? I thought you were saying Chow her Like for Adam Driver Whenever you saw him on scream Like chow her And I was like what? Shower
Starting point is 00:26:51 That went so dark He felt like a Shower He He had like quite He just He was Shower
Starting point is 00:26:59 He was not a take him home to your parents' type in girls, was he? But he was just still... No, not at all. Also very problematic. He's such a good actor though. Such a good actor. So good. Is he?
Starting point is 00:27:11 He's such a bad man now? No. Is he? No, he wasn't and that was Ron Patterson. Also a good actor. Do we know who James Bonders yet? No. Should we put our bets in even though no one cares?
Starting point is 00:27:20 Well, Amazon's bought it now, so I don't think it's going to be ruined. I was always desperate for Idris Elba, but I think he said, he's said no, hasn't he? He said he's not going to be doing it. It's also got to be someone that's going to be able to do it. for like 10 years. Has it? Well, yeah, because like you need to be able to,
Starting point is 00:27:34 you can't have like bond being that old. Why can't they just have a different bond each time? This doesn't work like that. Don't ask me questions like that. Okay, I think that would be quite cool. So James, people talk about James Norton. People talk about Will Poulter,
Starting point is 00:27:46 wouldn't he be cool? I really like Will Poulter. He's young enough. He's a really good actor. He's such a good actor. Yeah, James Stonton was the other one. And then your man, your man, your man, your man, Aaron Taylor Johnson.
Starting point is 00:27:57 And I feel like he has to do it Just because he was in Angus Sungs and Perfect Snogging and what a glow-up. Like, what a glow-up. Imagine going from Robbie. He's really attractive. Georgia, why your legs are inch? He is literally the wettest blanket in that film. I don't remember that.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Oh my God, are you getting? I don't know if I was too old for it. It's a cinematic masterpiece. He's like, I wrote a song about you. It's called Bitch in a Uniform. I could quote Anger's Thuns and Perfect Snogging for hours. If you left me here, I could probably do the whole film. It's so good.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Oh, God, I'm back to that. And Georgia Nicholson is Ron Weasley's wife in real life. Speaking of Ron Weasley. Yes, I love a caveat. Have you seen him recently in the new film that he's in? He's in a new film. He's in a new film? Let me just show you the poster.
Starting point is 00:28:46 If he fit. Oh my God. He's so fit. What's his name? Roy Pitt Grint. Rupertical. Grint, new series. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:28:57 I saw it. You know where Netflix's like. He smoked cigarettes. No one smokes cigarettes anymore. You know when Netflix lockscreen and it shows you like all the different series, one came up and I was like,
Starting point is 00:29:10 who is that? Dish. Snatch. It's called Snatch. Snatch. That's the name for a... Snatch poster. Thanks for that. He's in a porn article. Oh my God, he just looks.
Starting point is 00:29:25 To be honest, I always thought there was something about him. Oh my God, are you ready? You know, okay. What? Woof. Woof. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:33 How attractive. Oh my God, is that Ed Westwick in the background? Is it? Yes, it is. Is it? Yes, it is. Oh, and you man. Oh my God, what a cast.
Starting point is 00:29:43 That's Ed Westwick. That is Freddy from Skins. He's fit. I don't know who he is, but he's fit. He's also in rivals. He's also in rivals. He was rivals? Yeah, he was Rupert Campbell Black's cousin.
Starting point is 00:29:55 He rode the horse. Oh, no, I didn't find him fit. Well, fair enough I found him Are we being problematic? We're objectifying men We are, we are objectifying men I feel like we should get into this at another point
Starting point is 00:30:07 No, we really should, bad It is really bad Is it really bad? That's the woman from Bridgeton Is it? Is it? Is it? Is it?
Starting point is 00:30:14 Is it? I don't know who that is. You've watched Bridgeton? Yes, I have. I don't know who Phoebe did. You do, the first series. Oh my God, it's the first series. It's the one of the years
Starting point is 00:30:23 because she had ginger hair and now she got blonde hair. Yeah. Yeah, no. I don't know if we should be objectifying men. No, we definitely shouldn't. But should we not? I don't think so, no.
Starting point is 00:30:33 But I think maybe we should. I really? In the, like, in the complimentary sense. I don't know. Because we can talk about women being really beautiful and really fit. Yeah. Is it okay if it's a comment? I think if it was like, if this was a male podcast and two of them sitting here talking about.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Yeah, actually that would be really bad. Like, she's fit. Oh, she's not fit. Oh, I don't find her fit. Oh, yeah. And that's not very nice. Should we take it all out? I don't think we should take it out.
Starting point is 00:31:00 I do think we should acknowledge them bad. Pause for thought. Pause for thought. Bad. I think there is an interesting thing where people say, oh, well, imagine if this was the other way around. Like, imagine if this was the other way around because it would be, you wouldn't allow it then. There is a very obvious power imbalance that makes it more fun.
Starting point is 00:31:14 It's like, what's that, you know, women are scared that men are going to laugh. Men are scared that women are going to laugh at them and women are scared that men are going to kill them. Yeah, definitely. The undertone of like the objectification is different. Yeah. Because generally when the girlies are objectifying, it's more like, like, whoa, you know, take your tarp off. Whereas when the men are doing, it's like...
Starting point is 00:31:30 It's more sinister. Yeah, there's the element of like consent and objectification and sexism. So like there is, it's... It's different. It is different, but it's probably still bad. Probably still bad. So what do we do? I don't know, but then...
Starting point is 00:31:47 Because like, we got this really badly when we did... Pierce Brosman and Steve Correll. Pierce Bosnham, because obviously you loved it, Piers Brosnan. Absolutely, I do. I was going to say it again, but I need to be careful. And then we got a lot of shit for that. We got a bit of shit. We didn't get a lot of shit.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Did you? I got a bit. I wouldn't quantify it a lot. I think I put it on my stories. Yeah, I know. So I think I got, I did get a lot of shit for, I think, yeah. Yeah. Because I think I did a direct poll, like, who's fitter?
Starting point is 00:32:13 And then people were like, is this problematic? Probably. Probably. And I was like, actually thinking about it, it probably is. I'm going to say we could ask for people's opinions, but then I'm a bit nervous. No, we should. Yeah. Let's get people's opinions.
Starting point is 00:32:24 That would be great. We could read about at some point. Yeah. it's um yeah what do you think before we go anywhere yeah what do you think what do you think
Starting point is 00:32:30 are we objectifying and X what do you guys think I think it's different if it's women talking about men because there's less of a school
Starting point is 00:32:41 oppression behind it yeah but equally the point about it in the worse is a good point and I would say yeah I would too
Starting point is 00:32:53 Dex what do you think I think if it's positive I like that. Yeah. So we can only leave positive reviews. Okay. That's fine. Rupert Gryn, well fit.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Piers Prozdenham, would smash. Oh my God. Chower. Horrible, horrible. Sorry, I would actually be really offended if I had that on a mail podcast, so don't like that. Take it back. Take it back. I actually would be mortified if I had that in a male podcast.
Starting point is 00:33:19 I know. I know. But you're right. It is all, like, different. There's context. Context. What context? As in like, different.
Starting point is 00:33:26 context, different situations. Well, there is a horror imbalance. I mean, at the very least, because Pierce won's on the, I'd love to be my granddad. So if he said it about me, which, I mean, I wish it would. I'm not getting.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Word smile. If he said it about me, it'd be fucking horrible. I mean, it wouldn't because it's Pierce wasn't. If a man of that age said it about me. But then I'm being picky and cheesy. Oh my God, I'm the worst. Well, it's like, do you know what I see so much of?
Starting point is 00:33:49 Sorry, this is probably like a bit leading onto a bigger conversation, but like, I see so much of like, oh, small dick energy. Oh, he's just got a, small penis or like or even like calling I mean I got a lot of shit for this like people calling Donald Trump fat and like criticizing him for being fat and using that as an insult towards him and like when we see like the male podcasts and they're talking badly about women or like body
Starting point is 00:34:15 shaming women and they're like we're like oh he's just got a small penis like that I just I don't think that's I don't think that's productive I think they're two separate issues like the small penis they are really unkind really unnecessary I don't like it. Just body shoaming. I don't like it. I think small dick energy is a different thing. Do you know?
Starting point is 00:34:34 Because ultimately. Because big dick energy is a thing. And I don't actually think someone's got a big dick. But at the root of it all is like it's good to have a big dick. Well, yeah, it's bad to have a small dick. Yeah, I guess so. I guess if you go too far back on it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:47 But I was like, like, oh, big dick energy. Like I don't actually correlate that with like the size of, do you know what I mean? Like, because I would describe myself. I describe Booer as having big dick energy a lot. And she's a dog with a vulva. Big vulva, mind. She's a dog with a vulva. That wasn't my bingo cup for this list.
Starting point is 00:35:07 This episode. Yeah, I hear you. I don't know. I always think of, that's what I always go back to is like, yeah, it's not nice. You're saying like, it's bad to have a. But the fat shaming Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:35:18 That's a difference. That's a difference. Well, yeah, and I do think on that. It's like, he objectifies women all the fucking time. He does. And I don't like that we then. hold the people who go back at him to a much higher stat. This is what I find very annoying about liberal politics.
Starting point is 00:35:31 And this is stretching way back, but like the sort of conservatism versus liberal debate. It's like they go low, the conservatives, right wing, whatever it is. Like, and he's objectifying women. He's doing all of this bad shit. The counter argument is always expected to be so. We are holding. It's very perfect. Yeah, we are holding the liberal representative, like our liberal representative to such
Starting point is 00:35:51 a high standard that it's like we will, we would pick apart his opponent. like Trump's opponent more for the like the idiosyncrasies and the tiny little parts of what they've said much more than we would for him in the first place. I agree with you but for me that feels really important not to fat shame him because not for him. I don't care about him. No one, like we don't care about him
Starting point is 00:36:12 and how he feels and his feelings. But you're representing everyone else. People who look like him, people who are the same size as him. But I think everyone else who gets body shamed. Like if we can't, if like we should just, we, no one should be body shamed. No. But I meant I.
Starting point is 00:36:25 I can't normalise the... No. But I think what's difficult is it's like if someone, it's like arguing with him and they do go low and they go low like that, for us to then call them out, like, I feel like that's a little bit counterintuitive because... I know what you mean. Because it feels like it undermines, like I don't want to undermine... Jamita Jamil talked about this on her stories.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Did you see them? Recently. Yeah. Oh, well, just about like it's... Yeah, it's liberal stripping each other up. Yeah, it's hard. It is hard. It is exhausting.
Starting point is 00:36:57 It is exhausting. It's so frustrating. I actually find it like being back on the internet now and like not unwell and stuff when I'm paying attention. It's like... It's awful. It's awful. It's awful. And we're going to end up with like none of us left. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Like zero support because everyone will just feel... We're terrified. Yeah, everyone's terrified. You'll be silent. Everyone will just go, oh God, say it fucking snowflakes and like I'm just going to just vote for reform because they say it and it really is. Because they're allowed to say it how it really is. Because we leave them to say it how it is.
Starting point is 00:37:24 We police the people on the left so much that the only people who are, quote, unquote, brave enough to say anything and the people, but we feel that we can't criticise. We don't criticise anyone on the right because we just go, well, of course, like, oh, they would say that. It's so annoying. It just means they get away with literally murder.
Starting point is 00:37:39 And it's funny, because I totally agree with you, but then I did, like, that really irked me when, I can't even remember who it was. I think it was like, no, not Howard Stern. He's awful. One of the late night chat shows in the US called Donald Trump. like a big fat turtle, like lying on his back or something.
Starting point is 00:37:58 I was like, I get it. But like, can't we criticize him for like the actual bad stuff that he does? Because God knows is enough to talk about there. But like not what, because people look like him. Yeah. Like men and women are the same size as him look like him. To be honest, no one looks quite like him. No, he's quite unique.
Starting point is 00:38:15 He's incredibly unique, yeah. We went straight in there, didn't we? Fucking hell. I enjoyed it. I thought this is going to be light. I've missed you. I missed you too. It's been fun to chat, hasn't it?
Starting point is 00:38:25 Yeah, it's been nice. Yeah, I'm probably getting loads of trouble for everything that we said. Shoot the shit. Sorry for objectifying Pierce, Broslam and Rupert Grin and Ed Westwick and everyone else. Sorry for being bad people. I'm sorry for not objectifying everyone else that we should have objectified in the name of equality. Oh, it's very difficult. I don't know what to do.
Starting point is 00:38:45 It's very difficult. It would be so cool to hear all of your opinions, though. Please send them over to Shoulda Delete That Pod at gmail.com. I'm locked out. email address currently so I might wait to log back in until I find out if the feedback's been positive or not. It would be cool to have this conversation they'd like further so yeah let us know. Thanks so much. Love you guys. We'll see on Monday. Bye. Should I delete that is part of the ACAST creator network?

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