Should I Delete That? - Just Us: Girl boss feminism, billionaire vanity projects and a postpartum identity crisis

Episode Date: April 23, 2025

Em was thirty minutes late to the studio today - she arrived looking fabulous and with a tale to tell… it was a hell of a 12 hours to be Em (or her hair). We also discuss mispronouncing words in a professional capacity and the true meaning of the phrase 'take heed'.Listener Vanessa emailed us about the first all female space flight - so we dive into the questions that it has raised about girl boss feminism, tokenism and billionaire vanity projects. Do you have something you want to share with us? We’d love to hear it - email us on [e-mail] Follow us on Instagram:@shouldideletethat@em_clarkson@alexlight_ldnShould I Delete That is produced by Faye LawrenceStudio Manager: Dex RoyVideo Editor: Celia GomezSocial Media Manager: Emma-Kirsty FraserMusic: Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello, welcome back to Should I Delete That. I'm in Clarkson. I'm Alex Light. How are you? I'm good. I'm really intrigued as to what you need to tell me. You're bursting. I am literally exploding.

Okay, so I'm half an hour late to the studio for context and my hair looks good. That's all you need to know. Your hair looks great. Let me explain. So I've been having an absolute identity crisis recently. I went on Lorraine a couple of weeks back. Yeah. Saw how I looked afterwards.

And I was like, oh my God, who is that? And it's been really weird. I think I've just had a baby. And like, all your instincts when you have a baby, like, hunker down, hang out with a kid, don't leave the house for a year. You know what I mean? I've done the opposite of that.

You put yourself on Prime Time TV. And like, obviously when I was pregnant, I died my hair like 50 million times. So I came out of that thing, completely different beast. Yeah. And I think I just had this moment where I saw myself and I was like, what is happening here?

Like, I just, I looked really unfamiliar. Then I got really upset. Then I got in a spin about it. Then I was like, okay, what do I do? Like, because I've got to go back. So, like, this, I need to fix it. And I don't know what, I don't even know where to start. Right.

So I've been in a spin, crying loads. Okay. I'm fine. Got my eyebrows, got my eyebrows down. They look great. Thank you. That helped. Hated them when I first got them done.

I was like, well, I may as well have shaved them off. Like, it was, I've been odd. It was a bit odd. Anyway. Then I was like, okay, I need to feel. fix my hair. I just need to go back to being blonde because I was like, I can't do this anymore. Like, I don't know who I was kidding. But I didn't want to go blonde blonde. I wanted to go to that day in the summer when you told me that I look pretty. I found the day. It was the end of

July. And I was like, that was, you were right. That was a good day. So I took that photo back to the hairdressers. Okay. I'm going to show you what happened. I think there was a communication issue. My hair, yesterday afternoon, was dyed as blonde as it was on my wedding day. show me show me show me that you aren't ready oh my god i tried to be chill i tried really really hard to be chill oh my i cried for 15 hours straight it's so blonde uh-huh it's not that it was bad it's so blonde it's just really really really not what i was expecting oh my god it's it's like my colour yes listeners it was literally alex's color it's so blonde and it's just not what i was expecting, I was expecting like a few highlights in the bottom. Oh my God. So, and my normal person

who does my hair who I'm obsessed with him, who is my friend. She just wasn't there. She's like, go and see someone else. And I just, I didn't, I was in the stress. I didn't communicate to him. I was like, I just want to go back to being blonde. So I think he was like, cool, let's go blonde. So we went blonde. And I just, like, it doesn't look bad. He actually did an amazing job. It looks fantastic, but it just was not what I was expecting. I need so, I am baffled because you're sitting here in front of me now with hair that is not that blonde. No. So, that's why I was half an hour late.

And that was 50 hours ago. Yeah, that was taken at yesterday at 9.25pm. Okay. So 11. 11. PM? PM. PM. It's been a lot.

Okay, I've really been through it. What is going on? Monday, A&E with Arlo. Tuesday, hairdressers. Wednesday, hairdressers. Now we're here. So it's been like a really, really big three days. I finished the appointment

Right FaceTime Georgie And was like I No Like I need to just take my head Like I'm really stressed Like I don't like

She was like I love it You look amazing I can't hear this right now Judge Nogne This is not why I'm chatting Gotta go Got home And then it was like

Bath time bedtime bedtime You know like just putting Arlo to bed And as I was putting all right to bed I started having a panic And I was lying in bed Like trying to be chill And I was like I'm not okay

I hate it I just can't This isn't, I can't. And so then by the time I got downstairs and I was like cooking dinner, I was getting progressively more and more panicked until 9.25pm when I was inconsolable. I was like, I can't. Sorry, I didn't even to laugh. All that was playing in my head was every compliment I've received over the last six months,

which has been, don't diet blonde again. You look amazing brunette, can't believe you were blonde for so long. You looked so washed out with blonde hair. Never do that again. That's all I could hear was all these comments from my mum, from people on the internet. like it was all I could hear from hairdressers I'd met I was like I can't believe I've done this and then I've got to go back on Lorraine on Thursday

so I was like I was in a spin I was like I can't do this anyway yeah so that was 925 and then Alex is like we're just going to have to text my friend the hairdresser he was like we're just going to have to tell her and I was like we can't tell her that goes against girl code girl code is it doesn't matter what's done to you doesn't matter if you hate it you just go with it and he was like we need to fix it

yeah yeah God love her She was like, I will move some things around. Come in first thing this morning. Oh, my God. So at 8.30 this morning, I was being outside the salon and it's been fixed and now I'm here. Oh, my God, I can't believe this. What a roller coaster. I know it's a first one problem to anyone listening, but...

She is so good. She's so good. Your hair looks really good. Anyone in London goes to Palmer Fisher and else for Nikita because she... Well, she's about to have a baby, but like, shit, she's good. So your hair looks great. Yeah. I'm going to say, it looks like...

like that day in July last summer. I think you're saying it because you think I need to hear it, but I'm going to take it with both hands. It really does. It looks really, really good. Oh my God, what an ordeal? I know it's like, it's stupid. I know it's stupid to care that much. But I think I'm in it. I was giving the context to like my identity crisis anyway. And then when that happened, I was just like, well, who am I? It's that scene in Fleabag that like hair is everything. I was going to say, what, 24 hours? But it's like 12 hours. 12 hours. I know.

The thing is, in the old days, when I was like plumb blonde, I'd have taken what he did and been like, it looked fantastic. Because it did look really good. It was just, I was looking in the mirror and I was like, I can't do this anymore. Stop changing things. Imagine if you just turned up here with that hat,

I'd have got such a fright. I said, I was trying on all my hats last. Oh, God. I was like, I can't be perceived. I'm not ready because then it becomes a thing. And then everyone's going to come again, show me again. Because then everyone's going to want to talk about it. And then I'm going to have to talk about it.

And the thing with the internet, or the thing, I know, so blonde. So blunt. The thing with anything is, if you feel confident in yourself, in anything, what other people say about it doesn't matter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I knew that I didn't like it. So I knew if anybody said anything, I would take it terribly. Yeah, yeah.

And I know what everyone's like. So if I uploaded a photo at any point, people would go, no, what have you done? Yeah. And I would say, I would emotionally ready for that. No, it would literally break my heart. So I had, I knew I couldn't come here. I just couldn't come here with it. And Alex's like, well, we'll cancel it.

I can't cancel it because I don't like my hair. I can't like not go to work because I don't like my hair. It's a reality check. But yeah. Okay, well, you fixed it. It looks great. Yeah. Thank God.

No more blonde. No. I think that's done to me. I think we're clear on that. Yeah. I think we're clear on that. Can you believe it? Like, look at the difference.

That was the morning. Fuck. I mean, the tears, like my tear stained face. Do you want to see how I woke up this morning? Oh my God. Yeah. You look like you did your jaw surgery. That was just tears. It was just tears.

I woke up to feed Zanthia at 2 a.m. or whatever time it was. And a strand of hair fell forwards and I saw that it was blonde and I remembered. And I just burst into tears again. And then I lay awake. Okay. What we're learning from this is crying and that's how it ended. You do not like blonde. hair. We like this like

balléage bronned. That's it. I feel so stupid for caring about this as much as I did. I mean, it's your hair and you care about it so you're allowed to. And this postpartum journey man, you do have such an identity crisis.

Last time I went weird with my clothes this time I'm going weird with my face and my hair. Why can't I just settle in? Why can't I just hold on? Do you know what I mean? I'm too impulsive. I wish I didn't have so much access to things. In the olden days, don't like it tough. You know what I mean? Yeah.

I remember my mom coming back with like Oberjeet colored hair once. She was supposed to go blonde. And they accidentally... Do you mean like... Like an egg plant? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was supposed to go blonde as she always has been.

Yeah, yeah. But they accidentally turned her like orange. And the only way to correct it was to go really dark again. She literally walked back in with like egg plant, like... Like an obergene colored hair. I had an American school, Obojean's egg plant. It's very confusing. It was...

It was so, it was so bad. And she just had to stay like that for a while. Because it's not easy just to go, it's not, it's hard to do something like that. Especially when you're, you're messing around with like dark to light and, because obviously it's like bleach and it's difficult. Yeah.

I mean, yeah. Today. That's what I did this morning. Yeah, like sometimes you have to give it time and, and it's tricky. I'm going to be amazing. That's what I thought I was going to be doing. I thought I would have thought that's what you would have had to have done. What an amazing hairdresser that did.

You managed to do it. Yeah. To go from so dark to so light in one go. It did. look fantastic just for the for someone else's head not yours not where you are right now in your life no no I don't think I should be allowed to make any decisions I genuinely I think I could I should make sorry about the breastfeeding noises um it's zampi not Alex obviously I that's disgusting which are Alex either um um I think I would petition quite hard like if the

government weren't busy enough like if there was an excess of money in this country I would petition quite hard for it to become law that if you want to change your hair whilst pregnant you have to like have it countersigned by three people you have to you have to you have to be vetted by like three psychologists I agree I don't think it's ethical that hairdressers can just listen to you because I don't think you should be trusted what if I like a fringe well it's like that rule I mean rule but they say that you shouldn't make decisions about your relationship in the three years after having a baby I mean that's a long time to be miserable if you're with someone horrible. I think you're right. I know. I know. If you're in a horrible relationship,

go. Like, yeah. Cut ties. Also what you like, asked you to marry him and you're like, we're going to circle back to this in 2028. I would have said a year after having a baby. I feel like three years. Okay. It's often recommended not three years to wait at least a year and preferably longer after having a baby before making significant relationship decisions, such as divorce or separation. Well, who recommended that? Like, was it, is it a Christian website? Jen saw a real about it. She sent me in and she was like, lol, I'll, like, hold up on the divorce then, yeah.

Well, Tommy is one now. He is, as you were. He is, as you were. Yeah, you crack on. I've heard it said three years. I think Chessie King put up a thing about it being three years. Maybe it's from Chessie.

Yeah, I think she said three years. Yeah. She obviously, we've been a podcast. Three years is really long, though. Also, you can establish in three years, if I think, no matter what is how I think, you can establish whether the relationship is like, right, if you or not.

Three years. A year, yes, you're still all over the place. 18 months. I'm going to give it 18 months. I think we should stick with three years. Do you? No. Absolutely not. If anyone's to speak to this and it's in a horrible relationship, please don't listen to this.

No, yeah, go. No, do listen to, like, take heed, but don't, take heed, but don't take heed, but don't, take heed. Stay strong. It's a weird one. I mean, it's a bit, I don't think you can over general, blah, blah, blah. What does take heed mean? Does it like take strength? Something like, pay attention.

I imagine it, like, something horse for, you know what I mean like can you help us up hey Alex's right it's like pay attention like take heed of this take heed yeah like I'm about to tell you something very important take heed what did I think it meant strength it's amazing when I retain a piece of information immediately my entire like belief system up until that moment is just gone I'm like okay I can completely change now on a dime take straight I've definitely been using that wrong take heed I think I've been saying like take strength oh my god do people think I'm an ass

walking around going take heed and then I say something not profound guys listen close do you know what always sticks with me is like a really a moment that I just felt really mortified about was when I first started interning at Cosmo and I was trying to be a journalist

and I was like this is my way in interning like I've got to impress them so I was like trying to I would have been 18 and I was like trying to use big words and you know like albeit albeit it albeit it all be it be it. It's great. I love saying all be it. I'd only ever seen it written down. So I said

it like out loud in conversation. I said albite. Because I knew what I remember. I didn't know how to say it. So I said yeah. I didn't even know what the sentence was but I said I'll bite. I respect that. What did everyone say? Maybe they thought you were just bit broken. Well I didn't I kind of at the time was like I don't know. It just didn't seem to land right. And then I think I checked later on. I was like it all be it. No. All bite. Al bite. speaking my language there. I love a mispronunciation. But no one ever, actually I was going to say no one ever calls me out on it until we started a podcast. Now people are quite quick to call me out. And I do call you on your spelling. My spelling. I don't mind, do you? No, I mean, you do better than

autocorrect. He hasn't got a clue. I think it was that mean that I seen you the other day. Give it a break. You need to give it something. It's like, I can fix your spelling, but I can't fix you. And I'm like, yeah, that's fair enough. It's all right. I started talking to my phone, though, to get spellings of things. What do you mean? You press the microphone and you say the word you can't spell. That's a good idea. Completely game changing. That's really clever.

I've actually started texting people like that. What's happening people like that? Yes, me too. If you ever see a, if you ever see a full stop in a WhatsApp message from me. It comes out extremely formal. Incredibly. I'm like, whoa. I was going to read a lot into this.

Yeah, please don't do that with me. I'll be on the floor. But it's so handy. Well, I imagine especially when you're breastfeeding as well. No, it's more for the spelling if I'm honest. It's super duper helpful. Um, Tommy had my phone this morning. Oh good.

Well, we know what happens. Very early. And I looked at, you know, you know how you, like you, the, the drop down thing comes on your, on your home screen, you can type things in. And somehow, on my, on my thing was ring Downing Street. I was like, why are you trying to ring Downing Street, Tom? Can you ring Downing Street? No, obviously.

Oh. Probably. Probably not. Probably not. I reckon there'll be quite an extensive, like, menu. You know, it's like. You are one million, two hundred. 996,000 in the list.

Yeah, or like, listen to all these options. Yeah. There's like 17 options. Do you want to just to organize a call back for the year? They like network off into lots of days. I don't think it's that easy probably, but anyway. I've got a friend that works in Downing Street now. She's a lot of maternity leave.

She's quite important. I think about it all the time. I'm like, how would I contact her at work? Probably just email. Oh, yeah. That's cool. She had like an office member. I could be like.

She's kind of my friend too. Well, oh. She's more your friends. Yeah, no, she is your friend. That's fine and I can share. But I need to ask about your friend that ghosted you. It's back on. Did you message her?

I didn't. Oh. Because she listened to the podcast. I don't know. I don't know. But it's suddenly back on. And I don't know what happened. That's great.

See? It probably wasn't anything to do with you in the first place. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know the shift, the change. That's great. So you're hanging out. You've got a date.

I feel a bit sort of, I don't know if I'm coming or going with it. I'm like, you're playing hot and cold. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're too old to be playing games. I am too old to be playing games. But it is making you keener, isn't it? A little bit, a little bit. Yeah.

Like, when she texts, I'm like, oh. That's relatable. So sad. Normalize that. Normalize that. Normalize it. I think we should normalize it. I think we should normalize being a bit excitable and a bit tragic.

A bit tragic. Do you know what I mean? I know. A bit like, or a lot uncool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and a bit excited to hear from my body. times in my life that I have like really tried to be cool. Yeah, when you said all bite at Cosmo.

I'll bite. And I feel like now I just really lean into like, I'm not cool and that's okay. Yeah, be excited. I obviously am not leaning into that because I keep chasing something that doesn't exist. Eyebrows, hair, outfits, I don't know. Identity. I don't know. You're like, yeah, you're, I'm in my mattresses.

You're chasing to like, you're in your mattresses. You're chasing to like find yourself again. What do they say about that in the three years post-starting? Don't change your hair. The instructions were quite clear about the husband. So what are they saying for yourself? Can I talk about my hair quickly? Yeah.

I want to go blonder. How? And get a fringe. I want a fringe back. I really, really want a fringe back. Okay. You know what? Actually, I can get on board with that

because I've just remembered how your fringe looks and it's really nice. As long as I don't go too short, because you remember when my mum cut it and it was like, she cut it and it was like above my eyebrows. That wasn't good. I would petition for your bangs and hair

extensions. No, I can't, I can't do the Stenny's again. I can't do it. It's too much upkeep. I can't do it. Stenies. Oh, come on. Get with a lingo. I get, I can counter sign a as long as you're not pregnant, I can counter sign a fringe. If you are, then I suppose we need to get Faye and X to counter sign it to as per my new legislation. We have an email to read. Oh, do we? Well, this will be slightly. slightly old news by the time we hear it because it will have happened nine days ago. Okay. Which I can't believe is now old news, but such is the media.

I know what you're going to talk about. Space flight. Space, yeah. Space. Katie, Katie, Perry went to space. Yeah. We've had an email. Hi, I'm and Al. I just love the podcast.

And after hearing all the commotion about the first female space crew with more than one woman, I just wanted to hear your thoughts. While I agree, of course, money could be better spent than privatized space flights. I am, and I'm not a fan of the privatized space company. I just can't get past how much hate and criticism these women are receiving. When Bezos and male friends went on the flight, it was barely talked about and received less hate. A couple of the women even did research on the trip

and are still being targeted with mass amounts of hate. These women were given an opportunity to fulfill a dream, do something cool, inspire young girls to get into STEM, etc. Should they have passed it up? Bezos would just find some other person to go. And if all women, like in the world, said no, there would be no positives from the trip, just the harm. Do I believe Bezos actually cares by inspiring women?

No, but at least it will because representation. representation does matter. I've also heard people say they didn't inspire girls because they were paid for it and it's just an ad for people with money. Whilst Bezos is obviously

trying to sell something, it still inspires people who don't have the money to go. They can be inspired to go and work in fields like STEM. If you hate it and are mad, put the blame where it belongs on the person, people privatising space

the owners of these companies. Sorry for my rant. I liked her rant. I like her rant. I like her perspective. There is so much misogyny lumped in with this. It's the wildest thing. It is.

It's really wild. I thought it was a joke at first. when I first heard they were going up. Yeah. Then I kind of thought it was a joke that they had gone up. And now they're back. I'm like, this still kind of feels like a weird joke. I know.

Katie Perry kissing the ground. I do have to say that did. But yeah. But are we being misogynistic? I don't think so. Because how would you feel if Jess Bersaw's kiss, would you start being? I'd be like, what you're doing? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It was an element of. It's just, it was, it was too much. But there is so, there is so much misogynistic. But the thing is. as well is that these women, like, there's, people are commenting on how these women look because, I don't really know how to say this, but like, you can tell that they've had a lot of work done. Yeah. Which, as we know, people hate that. Yeah. So there's like, there are a lot of

different layers to this. There was one woman on the flight called Amanda Nguyen, and her story's, like, really crazy, but she's a research scientist. And basically, she'd done loads of research. Well, she was a student at Harvard and she was in pursuit of a career at NASA. But then, sorry, something sticking her tongue out at me, that's so sweet. But then she was raped in her senior year at a frat party and she put all of these plans to work at NASA on hold to like advocate for sexual assault survivors and then this was about like getting back to herself and she's the first Vietnamese woman also to fly to space. Like that's really cool. I didn't actually know about that because because so much of it is focused on

how much plastic surgery they've all had and Katie Perry being camp. And rightly there is a conversation about like billionaires in space and like for me I genuinely like and I know it's because I'm ignorant

and I don't care for space and I just think leave it like absolutely leave it. Like I get that someone we like cool there's stuff we need to know moons, meteors like I get that NASA have got shit to do up there but the commercialisation of

it really is disgusting and I don't want to be all like we can't have nice things about everything but I to an it to an extent I'm like we don't need that nice thing like there are people over the third world that would like the nice thing to be like drinking water or like food and like can we just just focus on that so I feel frustrated with all of it but Vanessa who sent that email I made a really good point which is like when the men went out like we probably had a couple of these comments a couple of like yeah what a billionaires doing in space but nothing like this. And it is frustrating.

I will say that there was a lot about the submarine. That was mostly men, wasn't it? Who went down? Yeah. That was all men, I think. All men, yeah. On the Titanic, the Titan submarine or whatever it was called. Yeah.

So there was noise about that, wasn't there, about it being, well, like another, like, billionaires or like a valianty project, basically for billionaires. Yeah. But like that, I do think that is the very legitimate. part of this conversation. And it, but it does, it is so frustrating that

it does get derailed when it's like women, when it's women going up there. And I don't think, does it inspire? I mean, maybe. If you're,

if you're an 11 year old Katie Perry fan, it's pretty cool that she's gone to space, but it's still that kind of, it's the like women, like, it's the girl,

this is what I don't love. This is what I don't love. Which is actually, this is the, The feminism that is exhaustive, the feminism we need is like, let's get childcare to be subsidised by the government. Let's get full equal pay. Let's get, like, let's acknowledge the emotional burden of being a woman. Like, let's fight for fundamental rights. Whereas there's still this, like, marketed feminism. It's like, girls can do anything. Girl boss culture. Yeah. And it was the first

all-female flight to space, which is really cool. And that is cool. But it felt like a token. It felt like it was given by a man. It was like, go on, girlies. Yeah. Oh, sure you go. It's like, you buy yourself something pretty up there, honey. Well, Katie Perry was like, oh, there'll be so much glam in space. And like, I don't know. I want to be clear that like, we don't have to like distance ourselves from like typical femininity in order to preach. Yeah, but I don't like it either. It's like, does it have to be part of the conversation?

Can't you just have your glam and have your hair and wear your pink and whatever? Yeah, yeah. And why, and not it be a topic of a conversation? I don't know. Also, it can be the topic of conversation because, again, We don't want to detract from that. But I think what feels revolting about the whole thing is that it doesn't feel.

You know, when people are saying like, exactly, that's they. Well said. That's exactly what I was going to say. It feels so marketed. Like that's like the whole thing. I feel like we're just being sold it. And it is just this like,

and what it does is detract from the fact that that was the first all female. How on earth. Pardon my, look, it's really, my pun here, was that the first trip space for all women that wasn't a single, there was one that went up in the 60s, but which just had one woman in it, which I don't think counts. That's like being like, everyone on the bus today is a woman when you're the only person on the bus. Do you know what I mean? Everyone in like, yeah, like this is a very feminist car because I'm the only one in it. Like it's, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. So it really was the first one and you just think with that in mind, like it's frustrating then that it's like we've. been given it. Like you couldn't give it to someone who earned it. You couldn't give it to the

women who have had to overcome so much misogyny, so much within NASA, within STEM industries to get to where they've got. Their argument would have been, we have to have Katie Perry front this. We have to have someone really famous front this in order for it to garner the attention that it deserves and to, I reckon that's what their argument would be. If that's the case, that's incredibly depressing. I reckon that's what their argument would be. Because we don't need to send Harry Styles. Buddy, they're sending six space men out. Can you go just so everyone gets on board with it? It would work though.

That's the sad thing. But it would work anyway. If six men go up to space, everyone's like, oh, six men. I mean, they're in a bloody monkey to space. If you've got Harry Stiles, like, leading the charge of a team going up into space, like, that's big news. Whereas, do you know what I mean? Like, if it's just like, oh, there's six men going up in space.

Okay. But Harry Stiles was going up in space, whoa. The six women would have been big anyway because it would have been. It wouldn't have been this big, though. Yeah. Again, but it's like, yeah. Everyone's talking about like Katie Perry, Katie Perry. Everything I've seen around it has led with Katie Perry.

She's the hook. Yeah. It's all anchored by her. I reckon that's why they've, well, yeah. I'm watching a lot of below deck at the moment. And it literally, I know, I'm really going through some stuff. It really feels to me like, it's like sometimes you see on that where it's like the primary like can't come anymore and he like buys it for his wife.

And it's like, you'll take your girlfriends. Yeah. Have a nice time on the boat. That's what it feels like with Bezos here. Very token. He's just like, honey. take the jet take the rocket up you go have a nice time with the girls yeah that's what it feels like which is so annoying i mean quite frankly it is annoying i have no interest in going to space

whatsoever we talked about this on the rain a couple of weeks ago and they said what song would you want playing when you went up to space they said you can play me turn around or help i don't want it not a chance would you rather go up to space or down to the ocean floor up to space floor wait hang on what are we talking floor like a harbour

like a no no the middle of the Pacific Pacific I don't know whichever the deepest

one is like right down to the ocean What you're asking me there it's like where would you rather die space

yeah me too oh my god me too yeah like at least you're not going to be eaten by anything in space do you know

I'm just gonna be pop bang I wouldn't like either to be honest no I feel bit where would you where would you

where would you go up definitely yeah yeah yeah But you couldn't pay me to go up. No, you couldn't pay me to go up. Unless.

What's your price? Everyone's got a price. What did you do it for? No, you see, I'd have to make a statement. If I was invited on the all-women thing, by Bethos paying for, like, me and my gal pals to go up top, I think we'd have to be like, okay, here's something. You're going to provide clean drinking water to the whole world.

Yeah. Which he could. Very, very easily. What is it? Like 50% of the world's, 50% of the world. We've got a little socialist here. Like, you tell them, 50% of the world's wealth is owned by eight men. That's, it is fucking sick, isn't it?

I think it's 50%. I need to factor it myself again. 50%. Imagine if aliens came down and didn't know anything about Earth and we were like explaining to them and they'd be like, what the fuck? I know they turn on the TV and they've got people that can't afford to drink or eat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And people like dying in poverty and then...

Katie Perry in space. Eight percent of the, yeah. But I'm annoyed that I'm using that as a token to... I mean, I'm annoyed that that... I'm annoyed that that becomes a conversation, particularly it's like more women's rights are taken away. Like it feels frustrating that we're sort of scapegoating, we're using her as like, she's the frivolous one in space when men have been being frivolous in space for ages. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But we can extend that, we can extend that sentiment to all people going into space for a vanity thing. Like, yeah, apart from people who are actually doing like valuable research in space. But I think we can't it extend it to all of them. Like, what's you doing? Why can't you give it to like make a wish people? People who are like, it's their like dream to go up to space. Yeah. I just, oh, I don't know, it's just annoying.

Or people who are just doing, like, who need to go up there. Yeah. Actually, what, do people need to go out there? Well, they needed to go to the moon. Yeah. I guess they'll need to go to Mars eventually. But God knows why. Sam does a lot to say on this.

She's trying. She's like, guys, passing the mic. She's wrong. Every statistic you've given has been wrong. She's trying to correct us. She's like, you've pronounced that wrong. That's the wrong statistic. Wrong year.

Oh, she's embarrassed by it. Okay, well, I don't know if we'd, I know, and that... Well, it would be cool to hear... Yeah, what did you all think of space like? Listeners, listeners on this and opinions on this. But I really like that email from... Vanessa. Me too. Yeah, spot on. Said everything. We should have just read that and left it.

I didn't think we needed any follow-up. Well, if you do want to email us... About this or anything else. If you do want to email us about this or anything else, or any embarrassing stories, or is it just me's. Our email address is should I delete that pod at gmail.com, or you can deem us at should I delete that. I like that. episode with the most frivolity. Is that a word?

Yeah. With my silly little hair crises and we finish on women in stem. Within stem. Without a clue. Long live women in STEM. Well, honestly, it couldn't be me. Oh no, fucking couldn't be me either. I want it to be them though.

I don't want them to go in space it, mind you. If one of my kids come home, it's a space, I'm going to space, I'd be like, no, you're not. No, you're not. No, I, Spain is off the table. Find my friends will not work in space. The chip that I've implanted in you, We are going to go really quickly, but have you watched Black Mirror yet?

I'm so excited, but not yet. Oh my God, I don't know if you're ready. First episode. Oh my God. You watched it, Faye. I have, and we had to have for five minutes afterwards. Is it that bad? It's that bad.

Oh my God, I'm so excited. The first episode, no, I mean, I've truly never seen anything like it. I was, so we had to sit and watch, me and boy Alex had to sit and watch last one laughing UK afterwards. Like, even more Black Mirrory than the other seasons. I think so. Really? Of all the episodes, I think this one will stay with me the longest.

And I think it's because we feel so close to this disgusting level of dystopian. And I think what we were just saying about the disparity of wealth, I think that's what frightens is. I mean, the overarching thing is a sort of privatisation of healthcare and stuff, and particularly in America, obviously we're so lucky that we don't really have that to the same extent here. But it feels like we're going that way. And if we're not careful, it's like, I just feel like these episodes, it's like the writing's on the wall. and we just keep walking last bit. Can we talk about it next week? Hell yeah.

I'm going to listen. Watch. Uh, watch, sorry. I'm going to watch and let's talk about it next week. Okay, dokey, okay. I am so distracted by Zanthi, I love it. I know. She's great.

No, no, in a good way. Can I see one more thing just before we go again? Half of the episode I was pulling tongues at her and she was pulling them back. That sounds incredibly sexual and I don't like it. Pulling tongues. That's what you say is, isn't it? That sounds like you were snogging. Guys, it's pulling tongues.

What is pulling tongues? To pull tongues. That's sticking your tongue out. Who's pulling your tongue? Pulling is snogging and tonguing is snogging. So pulling tongues, sounds an awful like snogging to me. Yeah, yeah, it's to stick one's tongue out. Pull tongues.

Well, riddle me confused. I just actually want to say a thank you before I go because... To me? No. Yeah, to you. You can have it. But actually to our listeners, because I was really self-conscious about bringing something. It's difficult.

trying to work and be a mum. And I, when we brought, she's in for a couple of episodes and I was expecting all the comments to be like, this is so disgusting, this is so distracting, hate this, leave the baby at home. And everyone was really nice. Because I know it's,

I know it is distracting and I know people are really like head phoned in and like hearing breastfeeding and hearing baby noises. Like I appreciate that that's probably not. Everyone's cup of tea. I, I do. Well, well, yeah, okay, maybe some people feel distracted by it. But I personally think it's dead cute.

I love it. And I've only heard really positive things. And I just, I really appreciate that people can respect that it is difficult to juggle. Of course it is. A breastfed baby in a job. So thank you for the support there. Guys, you love you guys. They're probably all just, just getting back space on the delete, on the comments they were leaving about this episode.

That was a great. Never mind. Okay. We'll see you next week. See you next Monday. See you on Monday, guys. Love you, bye. Should I delete that is part of the ACAS creator network.