Should I Delete That? - Just Us: I like it dense and wet

Episode Date: March 20, 2025

We have *muchos* to discuss today!Em’s got an awkward that Boy Alex won’t let her talk about and she needs to get off her chest. Meanwhile, Al has potentially given Betty a taste for human blood�...� We also discuss internet accountability - we know that that people say hurtful things online but why do people feel the need to do it? And why do people feel so comfortable to do it publicly? Alex has been completely outnumbered in the studio today with her very controversial opinion about tea. We’re pretty sure she’s in the minority - but if you feel like giving her some support, you can email us at shouldideletethatpod@gmail.com  - send us your awkwards too please, we LOVE reading them! Follow us on Instagram:@shouldideletethat@em_clarkson@alexlight_ldnShould I Delete That is produced by Faye LawrenceStudio Manager: Dex RoyVideo Editor: Celia GomezSocial Media Manager: Emma-Kirsty FraserMusic: Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello. Hello. Hello. I'm welcome back to who should I delete that. I'm in Cluxit. Good afternoon. I'm what next night. Good morning. Muchos to discuss. I have an awkward and a bad. I can't wait. What would you like? Awkward, please. Okay. So. I've missed your awkwards. Oh, good. Well, I have two actually. One of the being that I got out of the carb in the day at the service station with my left boob out, whole thing. Oh, God. I'd miss breastfeeding. I know so bad.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Just one tip wanging out. Yeah, just, honestly, the longer I do it, the fucking lower they go. It's just, anyway. That's by the by. My awkward, it's something I,
Starting point is 00:00:43 I am desperate to talk to you about. Oh. Because boy Alex won't let me talk to him about it. Okay. I started, okay, I've got a baby, I've got two babies, bedtime's a nightmare.
Starting point is 00:00:53 I barely have an evening. I didn't have time for the whole thing because who makes a two and a half hour long film and expects me to sit through it in one go. But I started, trying to watch Wicked on Sky. Fab, right? Yeah, so good.
Starting point is 00:01:05 So good. I have to caveat this by saying I'm not a musical person. Okay? Full support the film. I'm very afraid of saying that I'm not a musical person because I know that theatre kids don't take kindly to it. Oh, I see. You don't like musical.
Starting point is 00:01:20 It's not even like you yourself are not musical. I was like, we know. How do you sing? Horrible burn. It's quite unnecessary. Sorry. You don't like me. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:01:31 No, I'm a contradiction because my favorite film is The Greatest Showman and I think it's a masterpiece. Okay. And I love it. But I'm married to a theatre kid and I know that like I have to be quite careful with how I address these issues. Yeah. So I say them gently and I'm going to say them to you. Okay. My awkward is, you know when you're, you know when you're watching a musical?
Starting point is 00:01:50 Yeah. And they go from talking and you know that there's a song coming. It's that bit. That bit is horrible. That bit makes me want to die. where it's like everything's fine and then it's like they've got that like awkward it's like watching a horse start to canter you've got like a couple of beats of like gone and it's all right before they start and it's all right when they're going but getting them
Starting point is 00:02:17 between the two things transition is awkward as fuck isn't it and you can see it in their eyes like they just start glinting and it's so and sometimes they have to go really low when they And it's like the worst thing in the world. It's when she says like, I hope you're happy, isn't it? That's when they go from talking into. I hope you're happy now. Yeah. I mean, God, it's far.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Awkward. It's so good though. It's such a good film. I also love the greatest showman. Like, it is my favorite film in the world. But still, watching Hugh Jackman go from like, man to musical man. It's a lot. The greatest show.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Is it the greatest showman or no? It's lame is. It's lame is when you see the rehearsals. I haven't seen it. On TikTok. Oh my God. You've got to watch it. I haven't seen the behind scenes with Anne Hathaway, Hugh Jackman.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Amanda Seafried randomly, I think, is in it. Oh, I've seen a video of them all singing together. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's very good. It's so good. He's just brilliant. I love watching people sing. Oh, so good. I don't know why I don't know music.
Starting point is 00:03:14 I think the crux of the issue is the transition. I think when I can get through that, I'm anybody's, you know what I mean? I'm up for it. Do you think you would prefer if it was just all musical? Yes. No talking. Yes. All singing.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Yes. Or all talking. I think I just. Just like a normal film then. Yeah, that would be good. It's a non-musical film. Like, who am I to, you know what I mean? Like, it's an art.
Starting point is 00:03:37 So I'm wrong and I'm like, I'm horrible for it. But that's my personal. And I bet people do it really seamlessly as well. Like, you know, expert. Well, they are experts. They're amazing. But it's still awkward. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:03:51 It's still awkward. Just before they said, I'm like, I know what you're about to do. Don't do this. You have to do this. I understand that. Like, maybe there should just be a pause. And then like, song starts. but they've got to talk their way in.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Speaking of things that are awkward, I encountered something really, I watched something really awkward, but I don't really know why it's so awkward, but this was at Christmas time when we weren't doing the podcast, so I couldn't talk to you about it, but I saw a man,
Starting point is 00:04:15 I think it must have been, like, at the very end of Jan, sort of start of Feb, I saw a man taking down the Christmas lights outside of his house, like he'd done his whole house at the outside with Christmas lights, and he was just in broad daylight
Starting point is 00:04:29 like on his ladder taking down his Christmas lights. And I was like, that is so awkward. Why do I find that painfully awkward? I find that more sad than awkward. I'd find that. I'm like, oh. I find that to be like, I was embarrassed for him. Did he think he said he tried so hard?
Starting point is 00:04:44 And now he has to undo all his trying. Possibly. It's just like, every, the festivities over. Like, the sparkle's gone. Like, the excitement has died down. Yeah, that's sad. And you're just there, like, taking down your, like, your little, your reindeer display. Like, it's just.
Starting point is 00:04:59 embarrassing I felt embarrassed for him oh my god no I don't feel I feel deeply sad and also a bit sad yeah mostly I feel sad I don't feel awkward though I'd have felt more awkward if you like fallen off his ladder or electrocuted himself but it made me think like when if you put up lights if you if you decorate for Christmas on the outside of your house it's so embarrassing to take them down you want to know what we've done go on haven't taken them down we just haven't turned them on oh love that yeah do you know what clever super clever December's not that far away It's been a mistake and, you know, I had a baby like three days before Christmas and then, you know, allow it. And it's like, only I really notice.
Starting point is 00:05:36 So we're just, and then, I mean, it's not like I've got a reindeer on the ceiling. I need to stress that. No, it's just like the fairy lights. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I love fairy lights. Do, yeah, I can see that for you. I love fairy lights. Like, to me, you could literally, you could, you could, you could be like a dog poo on the road and you just like drape fairy lights around it and I'd be like, oh, so pretty.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Right, so I've got a bit of a fear about fairy lights. big fear about fairy lights actually, that they're fire hazards. And I don't know where I've got this from. But when I was little, I had these like, they're so cute. And they're like fairy lights. And they're like very dark pink flowers with white flower on the inside. They're just like flower fairy lights. And they're so nice.
Starting point is 00:06:15 And I used to have them in my bedroom when I was little. And I've now got them and I put them in Arlo's room. And they're so cute. I know. But I'm really scared to like them in case they catch fire. Because I'm like, they're old. They're like 20 years old. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Yeah, I wouldn't. Well. But are they? But, you know, critical. Christmas tree lights have been going for like, you know, my mom's Christmas tree lights. We've had for like 40 years. But it's like, it's like an artificial light, isn't it? It's not like a...
Starting point is 00:06:38 It's an LED light, I assume. I don't know. This is it. I just don't trust them. And I'm like, well, I can't take the rest of my kids. No, you can't. But then they're battery operated, right? So it's not electricity.
Starting point is 00:06:47 No, no, they're electricity. But also... Oh, then definitely not. But definitely, yes, because Christmas lights are older. My mom's been using the same Christmas lights forever and we put those on the tree, which arguably is more flammable than anything else. Oh, yeah, you're right. They're not battery-operated.
Starting point is 00:07:01 No. Why am I so scared? No, I'd be scared. I'd be scared. I'd be scared. Don't turn them on. But I want to because it's all frantic. I need to go to.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Well, you can do it when you're in the room with her and you can do it while you're sitting there. Just don't leave them unattended. Look at the lights. Be like, hey, Arlo, let's look at the lights. She'll be like, this sucks. This is the most boring thing we've ever done together. Turn them off. Let's go and do literally anything else.
Starting point is 00:07:25 No. Bad mumming. So this is really much of a problem then. If she doesn't even want the one anyway. She would want them, but just not to sit and stare at them with her. So what do you mean? On the aunt. On the aunt.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Like, are she sleeping? Presumably. I don't know. When do you put fairy lights on? In the living room? When we're watching the TV? I don't want to do this with you. If you got anything good or bad or awkward.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Oh, bad, right. Oh, good. I'm looking at my fingers and I will tell you, I will tell you why. Periods, haywire, as we know, chaos. So someone, oh, actually, it was the founder of Hurtility, Dr. Helen O'Neill. She's lovely, really nice woman. We very randomly chat on Instagram. I don't know how that started, but I love it.
Starting point is 00:08:07 I'm like, oh my God, I'm speaking to like a huge scientist. Crazy. Like she's very, very smart. Scientific, good. I get very, very stressed when I see smart people following me. Me too. If I don't have a DMs me, they're like, hey, I'm PhD. I'm like, what are you doing here?
Starting point is 00:08:21 Why? I'm going to be undoing it. Do not feel worthy. But she was like, let's get you a Hotility test so we can take a look at your hormones and I was like yes that would be great that'd be so good so she sent me a kit and in the kit is so you have to cut you've done it before or you have to collect blood right not for Hittity but yes and then you have to collect blood in a little sample tube and they gave me six lancets and Dave was away on a stag do it's like you've got to do it first thing
Starting point is 00:08:49 in the morning Dave was away on a stag do I've given Tommy his toast and normally he takes ages to eat that because it's toast I don't know just loves those like, twizzes it around his hands forever. So I was like, good opportunity. I'll sit here with him and I'll do it. You know. I'll bleed. Yeah, I'll stab myself six times.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Way more interesting than fairy lights. Or should we stab myself in every finger? Look at mommy bleed out. So I was like, okay, fine. I'm going to, I was like, yeah, they only take five minutes. It took me the whole six. So I've got, I've got cuts in, I've got six cuts in my fingers. It took me an hour and 20 minutes.
Starting point is 00:09:26 minutes, all six of the lancets, I could not bleed for love, no money. I was doing star jumps. I was doing press-ups because I heard that's really good to get the blood down to your fingers. Can you do a press-up? Only with my knees on the floor. I was doing star-jured. I was flapping. Because somewhere online said, flap your hands about. I was running my hands under a scalding hot water to try and get some blood out of them. I couldn't do it. It was awful. And Tommy obviously got restless. Mommy, stop. You finished just toast an hour ago and he was like, what are you doing? I want to go play.
Starting point is 00:10:02 And I was like, I am in this deep now. I am in this deep now. Like I have to, and also this test are expensive. So I have to get this done. So. Did you? I just hit the line. Drawing blood from a stone.
Starting point is 00:10:17 It was drawing blood from a stone. It was awful. And it says on the thing like, don't squeeze your fingers. I was literally way to do it. Squeezing them so hard. The tip was going to pop off. be part of your issue. Maybe you just haven't got any, maybe that's why they have periods. Maybe have any blood. Oh my God. Oh my God. Am I lacking blood? Maybe you're just, I mean,
Starting point is 00:10:33 but famously, I've got that very big artery there. It's a big artery. Yeah, we talk to that. I don't know. Are you anemic? I don't know. I wasn't, pregnant, but I don't think I am anymore. I'm going to hazard the guess that you still are judging by that story. Yeah. I do get cold hands. Maybe there's just no blood in there. Maybe you're, yeah. Oh, it was awful. Awful. He was screaming. The dog was barking. Like, I want breakfast. No one's ever seen you do a star jump before. They're like, what is happening?
Starting point is 00:11:02 She's broken. I don't know if you remember. Our kitchen ceiling is so small. Low. It's so low. It touches Dave's head. It's so low. So I was just hitting my hands on the star just like, hitting my hands on the ceiling.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Bloods spattered all over the ceiling. Or all of my wish. There's just no blood. What's a stupid thing you've done? Although like one big drop came out and I was like, catch it! I try. to catch it with the chest tube and it landed splat on the floor and then betty just started licking it up and i was like this is awful you've given her a taste for you now this is awful that's it
Starting point is 00:11:35 she's gonna she's gonna want more it's like that scene in twilight where he tastes her for the first time and he's like good god that was delicious she's had diarrhea ever since i don't have i've done something bad to the dog oh god it was awful anyway i made her a cannibal actually it wouldn't be a cannibal was she ate you it would just be sad I think cannibal means eating humans, doesn't it? No, I think cannibal's eating your own. Eating your own. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Yeah, I think like, she'd have to eat another dog to be a cannibal. I wouldn't put it past it, you know. I mean, really? She's very vocal, but she's got no bite. Yeah. All bark. I like that I didn't know that about her. I think lots of barking.
Starting point is 00:12:17 So much fucking barking. Honestly, honest the guard, honestly. There's like a bit of dust in the air and she'll lose her mind. Have you seen, I keep seeing it quite viral online. It's like the most overstimulating part of motherhood. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen that. It's the most relatable content I've ever seen in my life. It is, it is, but there's a lot of backlash on those videos have you seen.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Oh no, I just relate to it quietly. Yeah, I know, yeah. I think it's Montana. Well, yeah, Montana round did it. Yeah, I saw that. She did a video on it and everyone in the comments was like, you chose to have a baby when you had a dog. Like, that poor dog deserves.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Oh, my gosh, she doesn't say anything bad. She's just saying they're overstimulating. They are overstimulating. They are. Especially when nap time. I see what it is, it's because dogs can't read the room. No. Bua doesn't know this morning.
Starting point is 00:13:01 She lost her fucking mind at nothing, obviously. And it won't jumpy up. And it's like, that is just a not, like, it's not even necessarily your fault. This is a very stimulating situation. You've shouted, now she's shouting, and now we're all shouting. Yeah. And you still love the dog. I still love the dog.
Starting point is 00:13:19 But Goddia is annoying sometimes when they wait the baby up. Yeah. I chose to marry Alex and I still get annoyed. by him. You know what I mean? It's stupid logic. Okay, all right, has something else bad. Go on, please.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Well, I've been threatened. You didn't do it bad, did you? No. No, no, I just have a bad. You chose the awkward. Yeah. I've been threatened. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:13:38 It happens quite a lot now, but I've been threatened with a legal action. Oh, my God. You know about this? Oh, my God. So I made a video about Pamela Arnson and Millie Bobby Brown. I know. It's not gone great. In any video, not by either of them.
Starting point is 00:13:52 I'll give you some back story. I made a video about Millie Bobby Brown and Pamela anderson i actually didn't think it was going to blow up like it did like it was not real but it wasn't like my best work but it was all right anyway it's had like 15 million views fucking hell yeah i know i've literally never had anything go so mad it so it's had yeah 15 million views and it's been liked half a million times which is i've never had anything like it fucking hell um i didn't blur the names of the people who'd commented so if you haven't seen this real it's basically pamela anderson there was a video of
Starting point is 00:14:24 her at the end at the at the award season I don't know they're all award ceremonies okay so there's a video of pamela Anderson and I saw it yeah I saw it and I saw on MTV uh Instagram and I looked at the comments and all the comments were like she should have worn makeup why isn't she worn makeup she looks so horrendous why is she aging like this blah blah blah the next video like two videos later I saw a video of millie bobby brown at an award ceremony and all the comments were like oh my god she's wearing so much makeup she's aged so badly what she done to her face why is she wearing such makeup like she looks so unnatural. And I was like this is so funny that like you've got one woman not wearing makeup and everyone's cross with her and then another woman wearing too much makeup quote
Starting point is 00:14:59 unquote and everyone's really cross with her. So I made this side by side video just using the comments that I'd seen. Like I didn't go looking particularly hard. They were the most liked comments on these videos. So like the very first one was the most liked one on the MTV thing and had loads of like thousands of likes. So I put the video together, didn't hide the names because these are public comments. People have left them yeah on public videos with public, you know, public, you know, with their name showing. So I just put them up as they are. Anyway, two people from that video have been in touch with me.
Starting point is 00:15:29 And they're very fucking cross. Oh, shit. One of them is threatened to sue me for defamation and bullying. Have you ever been threatened to be sued before? Not for this, no. Nothing like this. Not for defamation and bullying. So I replied to the first woman and she was like,
Starting point is 00:15:42 she was like, this is really bad. You're, you're bullying me. Because your comments taken what I've done. She basically said my, my, what's it? called caption, not like I do it for a job. My caption took her words out of context. My caption didn't say anything about these comments. My caption said, whatever you do, ladies don't age. Because I deliberately didn't want to say anything. I was like, I'm just going to leave it here to make the point for itself. I don't need to say anything because the point makes
Starting point is 00:16:08 itself. So I didn't say anything anyway. So she was like, you're a bully. And I voice noted her and I was like, I'm really sorry you feel this way. She basically said, you need to delete the real. I was like, I'm not going to do that. And then she said, well, you need to make an edit and explain let me explain myself and I said honestly like you can but I do think that's going to make it way worse like also you can't edit rails yeah you also can't really explain yourself like you left a shitty comment like you can try and explain yourself but just in order for me to protect you I need to be honest like I don't think people are going to take it like if you come and say like all I didn't like I don't it's like I'm sorry there's no way out of it yeah like you left the comment
Starting point is 00:16:43 on a public thing she was like you you shouldn't anyway it was really and I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry that this is overwhelming for you but like and I'm sorry and I'm sorry and I'm Sorry. And I did feel like it's a bit of a hard, like it's a hard line and I don't really know what to do. Anyway, but then I've had another woman who've been in touch with the first woman and she said she was going to see me for defamation and bullying from my caption. But it's not defamation. Well, I wasn't going to her because I was like, this doesn't seem great. But then she left, she started sort of quote, unquote, trolling me. She started leaving comments underneath all of my photos and my other stuff. And then my followers were going and being like, this is a bit nuts because Em hasn't done anything wrong. You left a public comment. So since then, she's gone away. So other people kind of made the point for me without me having to. But she said she was talking to her family lawyers and that I could expect, well, then she said she was going to call my manager and I was like, oh, my manager's my husband. He already knows I'm lying in bed with him right now.
Starting point is 00:17:33 But, yeah, so first she threatened me with calling my manager and then she threatened a lawyer. And I was like, oh, my God. I mean, I haven't done anything. It's true. Like, if you leave a public comment, back it. Well, this is what I said to the first thing. You're saying it with your chest, so say it with your chest and stand behind it. Thousands of comments underneath them, you know, because these were comments that were very
Starting point is 00:17:57 liked on, and it was like when you were getting praise for what you'd said, you didn't really have an issue with it. It's now, it's like when people agreed with you. When people agreed with you. And I do think we need to learn some lessons about how to behave online because we're being so horrible. Awful. Like those comments are just, and we're so used to them that they don't even seem that
Starting point is 00:18:19 bad but like they are they're just it's constant like it's just we've got so used to it so like I like I like seeing people keeping usernames in because I'm like I think there has to be some accountability on the internet I used to blur them you know yeah and now I definitely keep them in because I think yeah exactly like if you're going to say it then stand by what you've said yeah because yeah this woman said oh I'm going to go and take you know you've taken this out of context I'm like I haven't really I haven't really And well, no, because it's, well, that, it's not in a different context. No, no, it's what you said.
Starting point is 00:18:57 It's the video and it's what you said against the video. All I've done here is sort of introduce your actions to your consequences. And like, if you don't like that, then the problem is what you said, not me. All I've done is amplify what you said. Yeah. But I don't feel great about it because it's like, I don't feel great about it. With things like this, you know what I find so interesting. So I did a post about Suna Gomez, people last year at the Sagal
Starting point is 00:19:19 awards she'd put on weight yeah it was a very similar I literally bit you off because it was a similar style sorry well yeah because it's happening like constantly so everyone's saying she's she's too fat now this year everyone's like oh she's fucking on ozem pick like predictable whatever and do you know what I find so interesting is how many people say in the comments like well I'm not a fan of Selena but we talked about this before because I just find it so interesting and I'm like I don't understand why people make that discreetly. Like half of the comments are like, I don't really like Selena, I'm not a fan of Selena. They say it under your reel and then defend her. Is that it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And
Starting point is 00:20:00 but these comments aren't right. And I just think it's really curious. It's like we're so scared to like, it's so interesting. Do you think we've just not got enough niceness in it? Do you think we think that there's like a... That's the thing. I don't know. I mean, as far as I know, as far as I know, Selena's not a particularly problematic, like if we go back to what we're talking about with Donald Trump last week about, you know, people saying, you know, standing up against body shaming of him, you could say then,
Starting point is 00:20:24 I'm not a fan of Donald Trump, but we shouldn't be body shaming anyone. But it's like, I just don't get it. Anytime I do a post like that about Taylor Swift, and it's like, I don't understand that either. It's like, I'm not a fan of Taylor Swift, but I didn't like preface my post with, I'm not a fan of Taylor Swift, but I just think it's so funny.
Starting point is 00:20:44 I think people think they're being very diplomatic and fair. I think people think they're being really big thinkers when they do something like that. It's like, now look, I'm going to give you a lesson in diplomacy here because I don't like her, but even I can see that this is wrong. Like I think people do it from like an authoritative perspective. It's like, I'm not blinded by my love. I'm not blinded by something as fickle as fandomness. I see. I don't like her and I can tell you objectively that this is wrong.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Like I don't know if people do it from a sense of self-importance. Yeah, that makes sense. But it doesn't know because it's not. It makes more sense because... But it's still passing... I don't think people hear themselves because it's still passing a comment that's just unnecessary.
Starting point is 00:21:24 It's really unnecessary. Did you see... Grace Beverly, this is a very convoluted way of addressing this, but Grace Beverly did a TikTok video about Amber Driscoll and Casperley getting married. Sorry, I've really gone around the house. No, I haven't seen it. But Amber Driscoll, who's an influence of married,
Starting point is 00:21:38 Casperley, is a YouTuber, and she looked fucking gorgeous. But loads of the comments... Yeah. were about how people didn't like her dress. I've heard about this. And Grace did a video basically being like, keep it in the fucking group chat.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Like don't comment underneath somebody's video. Oh, I see. And honestly, like, remember, we did an episode about this years ago about people who were horrible about my dress and my hair at my wedding. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was genuinely still to this day
Starting point is 00:22:04 one of the most hurtful things that's happened to me on the internet is finding these comments of people being like, don't like her dress, don't like her hair. Why did she do that she looks? Why do people feel the need to do it? I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:22:16 And we're getting so, it's just, we're just seeing it more and more and more and more and more. I actually, I'm looking at it now. And this is the thing, like my instinct is to go, but it's beautiful,
Starting point is 00:22:24 she look beautiful. But actually that doesn't matter. Not the point. It's not the point and it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter whether I think she looks beautiful or she doesn't look beautiful. But you're right with, it's how comfortable we are to talk openly,
Starting point is 00:22:35 very publicly and to say, to speak, well, just, gossip, gossip. It is gossip. It's gossip. It used to be like in magazines, It used to be like gossip used to be only magazines
Starting point is 00:22:48 and we kind of talk about the magazines like in our little circles and now it's on steroids because it's on social media and we're gossiping with like millions of people all over the world but I've taken our gossip to like a whole new level. Like if I saw you commenting on someone's wedding dress video being like, don't like the dress,
Starting point is 00:23:05 I'd be like, Alex, what are you doing? What are you doing? It would be like I saw this guy once that I know and it was my friend's brother and he's like all my sister's right anyway like family friend kind of guy and I saw him comment on this video of and it was it was really bad it was a disabled woman who had been left on an aeroplane because they didn't bring up her wheelchair and I was like and I saw him comment being like fucking get over it like you got off the flight didn't you want you and I honestly I was like
Starting point is 00:23:35 I know him and I was so I commented underneath and I was like this is fucking horrible I hope you're really ashamed of yourself. And then I removed him and so, like, I know his parents very well. Like, it was, I was so, but it was like, it made me realize that everybody knows somebody. Do you know what I mean? Seven degrees of separation. So when there's always these comments, I'm like, are you not embarrassed? That's not what I meant at all.
Starting point is 00:23:58 I'm with you, though. But like, are you not embarrassed that people can see you being, like, yeah, talk about it with your friends. And if you don't have friends that are as chronically online as you, either make new friends or get offline, as much as you are. But, like, is this, I think this is a sad indictment of how, like, used to this stuff we are that a part of me is like, oh, well, it's nice that he did it with his own, not nice, but like, it's good that he did his own account rather than create a fake account. Like, isn't that crazy that where my brain goes is like, oh, at least he's like,
Starting point is 00:24:31 he said it with his chest. Yeah. But that's, I know, I know, that's, yeah, I don't know. It's like different levels of shitness, but. I find it, I don't know, like, it just makes. makes me, I know ultimately we'll all just have to end up with much thicker skins or shocking mental health or both. But it just, it's not just like, it's a celebrity culture, but it like it just permeates down into being like, to be so comfortable on
Starting point is 00:24:57 someone's wedding day that you don't know, it's a very, very small step to someone that you do know or someone that you vaguely know. And it's like, it's just horrible. It's just really And yeah, it is celebrities and a lot of people like, oh, but they're celebrities and blah, blah, blah, they asked for it, blah, blah, blah, all of that, you know, stupid narrative. But as with anything, really, it all trickles, it trickles down from celebrities. And it used to trickle down from, like, celebrities into, like, the general public. But now I think it, like, trickles down from, like, celebrities, influences to us. And so we're saying all these things about celebrities. And it's, like, the gateway into saying things then about influencers.
Starting point is 00:25:37 and then we, it's just normalising it all. But also, you can go viral completely by accident now on TikTok and on Instagram and whatever. So that's kind of wild as well, that it's like you can accidentally. And then all these people are saying, oh, you're viral, so you're mine. Like it's, you're available for public consumption.
Starting point is 00:25:55 I don't like it. Can I lighten the up, the mood? Please, yeah, because I am, also, am I in the wrong? Like, do I need to be, have I, with the suing thing? Like, should I not put their names out there? No, because they, left, they left that comment publicly, yeah. I don't, because, yeah, there's some of the messages about me being a hypocrite and a bully and
Starting point is 00:26:13 like all of this stuff and it's like, it really gets, I think that's, I've been feeling really anxious for a little while now and I think that might be why. I said to Fay this morning, I don't think anyone likes me. Oh, that'll be why. Do you think? Yeah, there's always a, am I a bully and a hypocrite? Like, that's what's, that's where I've gone. No, there's always a, there's always something behind it. Yeah, we're going to have every morning, being like everyone hates me. No, that'll be it. Cool, cool. Just listen to this video Now that I found myself
Starting point is 00:26:40 on the British side of TikTok I need to know the truth I'm probably gonna sound like the biggest idiot but I have been scrolling and I have been seeing conflicting stories what's the deal with the tea time alarms
Starting point is 00:26:51 is it a real thing is it just a big joke on us Americans is it a real thing is it a big fat joke please somebody spill the tea now that I found tea time alarms Tea time alarms
Starting point is 00:27:01 What a tea time alarm So like you're basically everywhere in the UK an alarm sounds and you must have tea. Did someone tell if that's what happened? And the comments, I am dying, can I just read out a few? No, babe, I wish it was fake, but it's actually such a lovely thing. Tea time alarm is so real.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Anyone saying it's a joke really needs to have a word with themselves because it really isn't funny tricking visitors into getting fined like this. It's only enforceable if you are registered with the TVLA, but nearly everyone is because of the tea license. I'm on a tea time awareness course as we speak because I kept missing the alarms. Oh. As a German living in the UK,
Starting point is 00:27:44 I'm exempt from the tea time alarm and I don't have to partake. I have to carry an exemption pass on a land yard. Oh, bless that. Can I say something really controversial, quietly? I know, it is mean. I don't like tea.
Starting point is 00:28:00 You only get an exemption if you're unconscious and conscious people don't want to say, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't do this. How can you not like tea? It's like the least offensive. It's like the least offensive drink.
Starting point is 00:28:14 No, it's not. Yes, it definitely is. It tastes of basically nothing. I don't mean that. That's bad in itself, isn't it? I don't want to get shit for that. I mean the way most people drink it, it tastes like basically nothing.
Starting point is 00:28:25 That's why I have. What do you mean? Do you drink it better than everyone? I do. I'm a superior to you drink. The way that everybody else drinks is disgusting. No, I have like double bags and no milk. So it's like strong and like,
Starting point is 00:28:35 and intense and gives me the caffeine hit I'm after because I don't like coffee. Coffee's way better than tea. Like, let's do a poll. Way better than tea. Tea or coffee? One for the rest of your life. Only one.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Coffee. Good choice. Trater. Dex. Yeah, coffee. My people. Three against one. They've spoken.
Starting point is 00:28:58 I know Alex is on our side. I don't even need to ask him. Yeah. And he's coffee will be too. Yeah. Because coffee is. Sample will be. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:04 She knows. She knows. She knows where I'm red spotted. She's coffee all the way. I drink chai. I won't drink tea. I don't understand it. Do you not?
Starting point is 00:29:12 I also don't, no, no, no, no. I don't understand it. And I tried. I tried, it's the same way that I tried to drink beer because I felt like I should, because everybody else did. And I just can't do it. I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:29:23 I like, I will drink chai. I like chai. It's very, very sweet. Never tried chai. Chai is delicious. Having a cup of tea is one of the greatest joys in my day. Same with me in coffee. It's the biggest joy of my life.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Do you agree with her? yeah it's amazing but it doesn't do what coffee does no in terms of sweet nectar isn't it in terms of the effect like the caffeine does I think oh fuck a cup of coffee is like oh god do you have sweet your coffees no no no it's like having a cigarette I see any way I can describe it it puts me like a cigarette but are you talking about the like physical effect like do you enjoy the taste of it yes fuck yes really just delicious okay if it didn't give you the caffeine here
Starting point is 00:30:04 you didn't give you a buzz we just drink it. Yeah, every day. Oh, well. Yeah, yeah. That's fucking great. I just think it ruins cakes, coffee. Oh, I'd agree with it.
Starting point is 00:30:13 There's no place for coffee in a cake. Like, people eat coffee, ice cream? I'd argue that there's not much that should go in a cake beyond cake. Hard disagree. Lemon cake. No, banana cake. Fine. Don't you start with your banana cake.
Starting point is 00:30:28 No, I don't want to get into that. You've got absolutely no authority to speak on that subject. Raisin cake. Fucking disgusting. Corsette cake is so nice. I don't believe you. I think you're just saying vegetables now before cake. Corgette cake.
Starting point is 00:30:39 The corgette makes it incredibly moist. We did an entire episode about diet culture's stupid things and I would argue that corgette's in a cake, that's a wellness problem. No, because it doesn't make it any like, quote unquote, healthy. Then why are they putting a corgette in the cake? Because it makes it really moist because it holds so much water. But it's perfectly moist cakes already.
Starting point is 00:30:57 No, but this is like extra moist. Carrot cake, as long as it doesn't have so no minute. It's so good. I don't understand that. I don't like carrot cake. It belongs with cake. I don't like any of the things that you said. So you would just like a lump of cake.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Cake, yeah. No buttercream. No, cream. But cream is a cake thing. Carrot's not a cake thing. Like, I think you can put cake things like icing, fruit, like like a strawberry jam thing. That's fine. Like berries, fruit.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Fine. They're sweet. Sweet cake. I think the exact word, there is nothing that should be. In cake apart from cake. In cake, apart from cake. Yeah, but these things would fit. Fine, okay, I was scratch that from the record.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Sweet things with sweet things. I don't think there's a place. Why are you putting a carrot in a cake for? I just don't understand. It's like, it's like I'll have a bite of it. And I'm like, wow, this is like a cake, but worse. Like, this could have been a really nice cake, but there's a carrot in it. No, because it's really, like, wet and moist and like...
Starting point is 00:31:49 I don't want a really wet cake. Do you know what? No, I want a fluffy cake. I don't know a wet cake. Oh, I want a wet cake. No, I don't want a wet cake for. I want a dripping cake. Why do you want a wet cake for?
Starting point is 00:32:02 I don't understand. I like that. I don't, I don't... I don't, I like it. I don't know. I like it. I like it when it's dense and wet. No.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Okay, right. Okay, well, we're on bread. So why are you up with bread? Are you one of those people that looks like a sort of like a heavy brown loaf, like a weapon? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a draft excluder type. Yeah, I love like, yeah. Would you choose that over like a sourdough?
Starting point is 00:32:22 Heavy German bread. What? Rye, dog. It's one of, like, genuinely, I can't quantify anything like the disappointment I feel when I go to a restaurant, that's the bread that comes out. Like, if they bring out, like, if it's done well, brown bread like very thick bread thin slice i get so upset like i want to see the plate through my bread even if you cover it in butter though yeah no no oil no no salt no i want i want to see the table i mean i love sourdough as well don't get me wrong okay so sourdough or soda bread okay i have
Starting point is 00:32:55 something controversial to ask maybe it's not controversial do you like jason's bread what's is jason's bread oh god do you don't know what jason's bread is you don't jason sourdough It's like, What's Jason sourdough? What's he making, where's he making, I'll try his sourdough and it's. We Google it. Yeah, I can't believe you haven't tried it.
Starting point is 00:33:15 I feel like it's what everyone kind of like all millennials eat nowadays. Oh, what? No, I don't, I don't want bread in plastic. I want bread and paper. Look, I'm a millennial. Yeah. I want bread in paper. I want, I want my paper.
Starting point is 00:33:27 I want my loaf in a paper bag. I don't want to buy it in plastic because then it's going to get soggy. It's going to get, you know, when you keep your toast, like when you make sandwiches and you've been caping it in the bag for too long and then it gets kind of like soft from being in the bag like almost condensationing
Starting point is 00:33:44 yeah and then you want to keep it in the paper bag so it stays dry God I never knew that I never thought about that Do you know what I mean? Oh do you? Face my gal today Faye and I are on a page here
Starting point is 00:33:57 I'm enjoying this I was scared I would be alone I hate to be alone I'm friends Oh podcast friends Jason's how they just it Pretty good But I'm just not sure That there's a place for it
Starting point is 00:34:09 I don't know why they put it in a plastic bag for Well half of it's paper If you look If you're the other half's plastic Whatever Whatever Before we wrap up Can I just air my grievances
Starting point is 00:34:22 With I mean how long have we got Social media at the moment Yeah yeah good Yeah let's go No it's not It's very lighthearted Oh good fine
Starting point is 00:34:30 That song I can't even say it like Because it's just gonna be Somebody's watching me Oh, Messi's a great song That's one I went viral to I hate it so much You kidding, it's a fucking great song
Starting point is 00:34:40 Why do you have to do it? Why are you like this? No, no, listen I am happy for, no no It's not even about that I'm happy for her She's a great artist I'm glad she's had that success
Starting point is 00:34:49 But honestly It's actually going to give me Anxiety attack If I hear it like once more Do you know people are annoyed with her for being a NEPO baby Because her auntie is Julia Donaldson Who wrote The Groffalo
Starting point is 00:34:58 What a hand-up She's had in life No, she probably has it's but whatever I didn't know that I didn't know that she's doing well and good on her no one would care
Starting point is 00:35:11 if Julia Donaldson's nephew had written that song It's so annoying It's a great song I could listen to it It's on the par with me with Miley Cyrus flowers and that like
Starting point is 00:35:22 that song that was on every real last shit is like um da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da You know what you sound like a boomer Dare to be different These are all great songs
Starting point is 00:35:37 They get stuck in my head And they go round and round and round and round And when I wake up in the middle of the night It's all I can hear Is because I'm too messy Do you feel called out by it? I can't bear it I hate it
Starting point is 00:35:50 And it's going to lead me to another I think I am a boomer It's going to need me something else I've been driving a lot recently Boomer We don't do that anymore Not very well I'm talking I drive it
Starting point is 00:36:02 I mean, I'm not kidding. Let's not get into that. No, don't have time. And I've been listening to Radio 1. Oh, that's fine. That's very young. I just think that the songs that are produced nowadays, they're just not very good.
Starting point is 00:36:17 So I went to Radio 2, but that's a bit too all for me. What? Radio 2 is great. I just, the problem with Radio 2 is it's broken up. I'm stuck, basically. I just think there's no radio that I like. Oh, good. There's a lot.
Starting point is 00:36:31 I mean, you could go for. heart? I feel like you might quite... No, it's all going to be a bit happy. The problem, I think the fundamental problem for you is, and I say this with a hug, is that radio presenters are paid to be quite chippy, no, chirpy, chirpy,
Starting point is 00:36:46 up, happy, happy people. They're paid to be happy. I like, I don't mind the radio presenters. I actually like it when it goes back to them, they start talking. And then it goes to another fucking awful song, and I'm like, how? Is this been allowed to get onto Radio One? And I can hear myself. Honestly, I can hear myself.
Starting point is 00:37:03 I am a C word. I know, I know. But just, I just, I just don't think the music's very good anymore. I'm, I think if I wanted to give you a horrible afternoon, I could just give you my new running playlist that I've made because I probably pulled them all from radio ones. No, because you have, you have sugar babies. I love sugar babies.
Starting point is 00:37:18 You have sugar babies on there. You have like. Oh, no, that's, I don't know. Oh, no. It's current. Yeah, yeah. My current running playlist is just downloaded the top, the charts. The ones that I like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Download at the top 50. When I go for a little walk, when I go for my, little walks more often than not I've got hot hits UK in my ears yeah no I hate it I hate it all that's the eight years between us six years between
Starting point is 00:37:41 seven years between us six that's the six years between us it's a chasm it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a gaping chasm between us it's never felt wider than it has today an older millennial and maybe you're a younger one
Starting point is 00:37:55 that's interesting that you like the presenters though yeah when they start talking sort of upbeat monotony might get to you. Well, yeah, I like it when they're talking about something interesting, not just like trying to fill the gaps between like awful song to awful song. Oh, I hate myself. I know, I just like them all. What I would like is I would like there to be a radio station of my Spotify playlist.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Why don't you just listen to your Spotify plays? Because I like the talking, I like someone to come on in between. I like to, I like it to be narrated. I would like, I would like a narration of my Spotify playlist. I think that would be excellent. There will be something out there for you. Melancholy FM, something like that, Misery FM, something like that.
Starting point is 00:38:38 You could pitch it. I can't believe there's no like radio stations doesn't just play like sadder songs, you know? I don't think the nation needs it and I think that's probably what, I don't think we need it. I think that's something that you do on your own time. That's why streaming platforms do so well. That's why spot.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Yes, because that's like, you know, you'd be sad on your time, like we'll come to you for the sweet, sweet relief. We'll come to you for the... You go home and you... You give us because I'm too messy. Sorry. I do like that other one though
Starting point is 00:39:08 that all day, every day. Too much labour. I think that was a really good song. That's not going to be on the radio though. That's a feminist dance thing. Yeah, I really like that. Yeah, they're not going to play that on radio one. But I'm too messy and I'm too clean.
Starting point is 00:39:20 I'm just like... It's such a good song. In what sense? Oh my God, in every sense. It's catchy as hell. I'll give it that. It's catchy as hell. It's catchy as hell.
Starting point is 00:39:29 which is the backbone of a good song in this day and age. Two, the lyrics are so good. She's really speaking to a lot of people there. Like, this man, when she says at the end, it's about her parents. Oh my God, that's even better then. No, it's about her boyfriend. About her parents.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Oh, my God, that makes perfect sense. But then saying that I could be a thousand versions for you and you'll hate the fucking lot. That is such a key message. That's exactly what we're trying to say is you're going to try and be all these things. You're going to try and perform. You're going to try and be happy.
Starting point is 00:39:57 You're going to try and be clean. No, my God. are you getting it speaking right, it's speaking right to the, to the core of the issue. My, just my misery, hatred of the song. Oh my God, no, it's, I honestly, I would argue you this video for hours. It plays in my head. It plays in my head. But I feel like that's a you problem. I don't think it's the song. Oh, it's all, all of this is a new problem.
Starting point is 00:40:15 All of it. No, honestly, that last line, like, I just, I think they should play that in schools. I haven't heard that last line, actually. That isn't my last night. I'll give her that. Yeah. But the whole, that's the whole point of the song. No, just, thank God you're not leaving these comments publicly because you're exactly to go back to the beginning of the episode.
Starting point is 00:40:30 No, because I wouldn't because, like, I don't want to upset anyone. This is, this is my internal grief, you know. Like, I don't, I don't want to, I don't want to upset anyone. I'm not, I'm not looking to cancel lowly young. Yeah, or give her a hard time. She's fine. You've certainly given her that, Al. She gives me a hard time.
Starting point is 00:40:47 No, she doesn't. It's a great song. I'm pleased for her. Go, go. Enjoy your success. We will go, but before we go, can I say, we saw her at the brits and I thought, what an absolute treat. Like, good feet.
Starting point is 00:40:58 you. I don't say it. Good for you. Yeah. But never mind that. Yeah, yeah, she performed. But it's like how cool. I'm really enjoying the TikTokification of music in that like I think it's really
Starting point is 00:41:09 leveling the game. It is. And it's so cool to see like young artists and obviously people are going to say when she's Julie Donaldson and sneeze so she's well or whatever. But generally like to see like young artists make so much success so quickly is so cool. Like same with them Miles. Oh, fuck. What was it?
Starting point is 00:41:25 Miles Smith is it? Your man who did stargazing? like he performed and it's like how cool is this it is really cool you've had these incredibly viral songs that come out of nowhere and they've launched you to the stratosphere and you're playing at the Brits and it's just really cool
Starting point is 00:41:39 you're right it's levelling the playing field for sure yeah love to see it yeah love to see it some of us love to see it obviously some of us fucking hate it I love to see the concept there's a heap to hear that song yeah just do it without me I think the place for you is Radio 2 at 12 o'clock
Starting point is 00:41:53 the Jeremy Vine show yeah I think you could actually ring in with some of your grievances. I think there's a big market for this. Yeah? Yeah. I think Jeremy Vines where you belong. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:03 There we go. I'll tell you what, if you want to be depressed by the radio, you should just listen to the news. That'll do it. That'll bring you right back down. Okay, great. This has been good.
Starting point is 00:42:13 This has been good. I just feel like I've got a lot of my chest. Good. We'll see everyone on Monday, won't we? Well, the ones that still want us. Yeah, if you're still here, no hate me. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:42:23 I'm miserable bitch. Love you guys. Bye. Should I delete that is part of the ACAS creator network.

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