Should I Delete That? - Just Us: I like it dense and wet
Episode Date: March 20, 2025We have *muchos* to discuss today!Em’s got an awkward that Boy Alex won’t let her talk about and she needs to get off her chest. Meanwhile, Al has potentially given Betty a taste for human blood�...� We also discuss internet accountability - we know that that people say hurtful things online but why do people feel the need to do it? And why do people feel so comfortable to do it publicly? Alex has been completely outnumbered in the studio today with her very controversial opinion about tea. We’re pretty sure she’s in the minority - but if you feel like giving her some support, you can email us at shouldideletethatpod@gmail.com - send us your awkwards too please, we LOVE reading them! Follow us on Instagram:@shouldideletethat@em_clarkson@alexlight_ldnShould I Delete That is produced by Faye LawrenceStudio Manager: Dex RoyVideo Editor: Celia GomezSocial Media Manager: Emma-Kirsty FraserMusic: Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hello. Hello.
Hello. I'm welcome back to who should I delete that. I'm in Cluxit. Good afternoon.
I'm what next night. Good morning. Muchos to discuss. I have an awkward and a bad. I can't wait.
What would you like? Awkward, please. Okay. So. I've missed your awkwards. Oh, good. Well, I have two
actually. One of the being that I got out of the carb in the day at the service station with my left boob out, whole thing.
Oh, God.
I'd miss breastfeeding.
I know so bad.
Just one tip wanging out.
Yeah, just,
honestly, the longer I do it,
the fucking lower they go.
It's just, anyway.
That's by the by.
My awkward,
it's something I,
I am desperate to talk to you about.
Oh.
Because boy Alex won't let me talk to him about it.
Okay.
I started, okay,
I've got a baby,
I've got two babies,
bedtime's a nightmare.
I barely have an evening.
I didn't have time for the whole thing
because who makes a two and a half hour long film
and expects me to sit through it in one go.
But I started,
trying to watch Wicked on Sky.
Fab, right?
Yeah, so good.
So good.
I have to caveat this by saying I'm not a musical person.
Okay?
Full support the film.
I'm very afraid of saying that I'm not a musical person because I know that
theatre kids don't take kindly to it.
Oh, I see.
You don't like musical.
It's not even like you yourself are not musical.
I was like, we know.
How do you sing?
Horrible burn.
It's quite unnecessary.
Sorry.
You don't like me.
Oh, okay.
No, I'm a contradiction because my favorite film is The Greatest Showman and I think it's a masterpiece.
Okay.
And I love it.
But I'm married to a theatre kid and I know that like I have to be quite careful with how I address these issues.
Yeah.
So I say them gently and I'm going to say them to you.
Okay.
My awkward is, you know when you're, you know when you're watching a musical?
Yeah.
And they go from talking and you know that there's a song coming.
It's that bit.
That bit is horrible.
That bit makes me want to die.
where it's like everything's fine and then it's like they've got that like awkward it's like
watching a horse start to canter you've got like a couple of beats of like
gone and it's all right before they start and it's all right when they're going but getting them
between the two things transition is awkward as fuck isn't it and you can see it in their eyes like
they just start glinting and it's so and sometimes they have to go really low when they
And it's like the worst thing in the world.
It's when she says like, I hope you're happy, isn't it?
That's when they go from talking into.
I hope you're happy now.
Yeah.
I mean, God, it's far.
Awkward.
It's so good though.
It's such a good film.
I also love the greatest showman.
Like, it is my favorite film in the world.
But still, watching Hugh Jackman go from like, man to musical man.
It's a lot.
The greatest show.
Is it the greatest showman or no?
It's lame is.
It's lame is when you see the rehearsals.
I haven't seen it.
On TikTok.
Oh my God.
You've got to watch it.
I haven't seen the behind scenes with Anne Hathaway, Hugh Jackman.
Amanda Seafried randomly, I think, is in it.
Oh, I've seen a video of them all singing together.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's very good.
It's so good.
He's just brilliant.
I love watching people sing.
Oh, so good.
I don't know why I don't know music.
I think the crux of the issue is the transition.
I think when I can get through that, I'm anybody's, you know what I mean?
I'm up for it.
Do you think you would prefer if it was just all musical?
Yes.
No talking.
Yes.
All singing.
Yes.
Or all talking.
I think I just.
Just like a normal film then.
Yeah, that would be good.
It's a non-musical film.
Like, who am I to, you know what I mean?
Like, it's an art.
So I'm wrong and I'm like, I'm horrible for it.
But that's my personal.
And I bet people do it really seamlessly as well.
Like, you know, expert.
Well, they are experts.
They're amazing.
But it's still awkward.
Yeah, you're right.
It's still awkward.
Just before they said, I'm like, I know what you're about to do.
Don't do this.
You have to do this.
I understand that.
Like, maybe there should just be a pause.
And then like, song starts.
but they've got to talk their way in.
Speaking of things that are awkward,
I encountered something really,
I watched something really awkward,
but I don't really know why it's so awkward,
but this was at Christmas time
when we weren't doing the podcast,
so I couldn't talk to you about it,
but I saw a man,
I think it must have been,
like, at the very end of Jan,
sort of start of Feb,
I saw a man taking down the Christmas lights
outside of his house,
like he'd done his whole house
at the outside with Christmas lights,
and he was just in broad daylight
like on his ladder taking down his Christmas lights.
And I was like, that is so awkward.
Why do I find that painfully awkward?
I find that more sad than awkward.
I'd find that.
I'm like, oh.
I find that to be like, I was embarrassed for him.
Did he think he said he tried so hard?
And now he has to undo all his trying.
Possibly.
It's just like, every, the festivities over.
Like, the sparkle's gone.
Like, the excitement has died down.
Yeah, that's sad.
And you're just there, like, taking down your, like, your little, your reindeer display.
Like, it's just.
embarrassing I felt embarrassed for him oh my god no I don't feel I feel deeply sad and also a bit sad yeah
mostly I feel sad I don't feel awkward though I'd have felt more awkward if you like fallen off his ladder or electrocuted himself
but it made me think like when if you put up lights if you if you decorate for Christmas on the outside of
your house it's so embarrassing to take them down you want to know what we've done go on
haven't taken them down we just haven't turned them on oh love that yeah do you know what clever
super clever December's not that far away
It's been a mistake and, you know, I had a baby like three days before Christmas and then, you know, allow it.
And it's like, only I really notice.
So we're just, and then, I mean, it's not like I've got a reindeer on the ceiling.
I need to stress that.
No, it's just like the fairy lights.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I love fairy lights.
Do, yeah, I can see that for you.
I love fairy lights.
Like, to me, you could literally, you could, you could, you could be like a dog poo on the road and you just like drape fairy lights around it and I'd be like, oh, so pretty.
Right, so I've got a bit of a fear about fairy lights.
big fear about fairy lights actually, that they're fire hazards.
And I don't know where I've got this from.
But when I was little, I had these like, they're so cute.
And they're like fairy lights.
And they're like very dark pink flowers with white flower on the inside.
They're just like flower fairy lights.
And they're so nice.
And I used to have them in my bedroom when I was little.
And I've now got them and I put them in Arlo's room.
And they're so cute.
I know.
But I'm really scared to like them in case they catch fire.
Because I'm like, they're old.
They're like 20 years old.
Yeah.
Yeah, I wouldn't.
Well.
But are they?
But, you know, critical.
Christmas tree lights have been going for like, you know, my mom's Christmas tree lights.
We've had for like 40 years.
But it's like, it's like an artificial light, isn't it?
It's not like a...
It's an LED light, I assume.
I don't know.
This is it.
I just don't trust them.
And I'm like, well, I can't take the rest of my kids.
No, you can't.
But then they're battery operated, right?
So it's not electricity.
No, no, they're electricity.
But also...
Oh, then definitely not.
But definitely, yes, because Christmas lights are older.
My mom's been using the same Christmas lights forever and we put those on the tree,
which arguably is more flammable than anything else.
Oh, yeah, you're right.
They're not battery-operated.
No.
Why am I so scared?
No, I'd be scared.
I'd be scared.
I'd be scared.
Don't turn them on.
But I want to because it's all frantic.
I need to go to.
Well, you can do it when you're in the room with her and you can do it while you're sitting there.
Just don't leave them unattended.
Look at the lights.
Be like, hey, Arlo, let's look at the lights.
She'll be like, this sucks.
This is the most boring thing we've ever done together.
Turn them off.
Let's go and do literally anything else.
No.
Bad mumming.
So this is really much of a problem then.
If she doesn't even want the one anyway.
She would want them, but just not to sit and stare at them with her.
So what do you mean?
On the aunt.
On the aunt.
Like, are she sleeping?
Presumably.
I don't know.
When do you put fairy lights on?
In the living room?
When we're watching the TV?
I don't want to do this with you.
If you got anything good or bad or awkward.
Oh, bad, right.
Oh, good.
I'm looking at my fingers and I will tell you, I will tell you why.
Periods, haywire, as we know, chaos.
So someone, oh, actually, it was the founder of Hurtility, Dr. Helen O'Neill.
She's lovely, really nice woman.
We very randomly chat on Instagram.
I don't know how that started, but I love it.
I'm like, oh my God, I'm speaking to like a huge scientist.
Crazy.
Like she's very, very smart.
Scientific, good.
I get very, very stressed when I see smart people following me.
Me too.
If I don't have a DMs me, they're like, hey, I'm PhD.
I'm like, what are you doing here?
Why?
I'm going to be undoing it.
Do not feel worthy.
But she was like, let's get you a Hotility
test so we can take a look at your hormones and I was like yes that would be great that'd be so
good so she sent me a kit and in the kit is so you have to cut you've done it before or you have to
collect blood right not for Hittity but yes and then you have to collect blood in a little sample tube
and they gave me six lancets and Dave was away on a stag do it's like you've got to do it first thing
in the morning Dave was away on a stag do I've given Tommy his toast and normally he takes
ages to eat that because it's toast I don't know just loves those
like, twizzes it around his hands forever.
So I was like, good opportunity.
I'll sit here with him and I'll do it.
You know.
I'll bleed.
Yeah, I'll stab myself six times.
Way more interesting than fairy lights.
Or should we stab myself in every finger?
Look at mommy bleed out.
So I was like, okay, fine.
I'm going to, I was like, yeah, they only take five minutes.
It took me the whole six.
So I've got, I've got cuts in, I've got six cuts in my fingers.
It took me an hour and 20 minutes.
minutes, all six of the lancets, I could not bleed for love, no money. I was doing star jumps.
I was doing press-ups because I heard that's really good to get the blood down to your fingers.
Can you do a press-up? Only with my knees on the floor. I was doing star-jured. I was flapping.
Because somewhere online said, flap your hands about. I was running my hands under a scalding hot water to try and get some blood out of them.
I couldn't do it. It was awful. And Tommy obviously got restless.
Mommy, stop.
You finished just toast an hour ago and he was like, what are you doing?
I want to go play.
And I was like, I am in this deep now.
I am in this deep now.
Like I have to, and also this test are expensive.
So I have to get this done.
So.
Did you?
I just hit the line.
Drawing blood from a stone.
It was drawing blood from a stone.
It was awful.
And it says on the thing like, don't squeeze your fingers.
I was literally way to do it.
Squeezing them so hard.
The tip was going to pop off.
be part of your issue. Maybe you just haven't got any, maybe that's why they have periods. Maybe
have any blood. Oh my God. Oh my God. Am I lacking blood? Maybe you're just, I mean,
but famously, I've got that very big artery there. It's a big artery. Yeah, we talk to
that. I don't know. Are you anemic? I don't know. I wasn't,
pregnant, but I don't think I am anymore. I'm going to hazard the guess that you still are
judging by that story. Yeah. I do get cold hands. Maybe there's just no blood in there.
Maybe you're, yeah. Oh, it was awful. Awful. He was screaming. The dog was barking. Like,
I want breakfast.
No one's ever seen you do a star jump before.
They're like, what is happening?
She's broken.
I don't know if you remember.
Our kitchen ceiling is so small.
Low.
It's so low.
It touches Dave's head.
It's so low.
So I was just hitting my hands on the star just like, hitting my hands on the ceiling.
Bloods spattered all over the ceiling.
Or all of my wish.
There's just no blood.
What's a stupid thing you've done?
Although like one big drop came out and I was like, catch it!
I try.
to catch it with the chest tube and it landed splat on the floor and then betty just started licking
it up and i was like this is awful you've given her a taste for you now this is awful that's it
she's gonna she's gonna want more it's like that scene in twilight where he tastes her for the first time
and he's like good god that was delicious she's had diarrhea ever since
i don't have i've done something bad to the dog oh god it was awful anyway i made her a cannibal
actually it wouldn't be a cannibal was she ate you it would just be sad
I think cannibal means eating humans, doesn't it?
No, I think cannibal's eating your own.
Eating your own.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think like, she'd have to eat another dog to be a cannibal.
I wouldn't put it past it, you know.
I mean, really?
She's very vocal, but she's got no bite.
Yeah.
All bark.
I like that I didn't know that about her.
I think lots of barking.
So much fucking barking.
Honestly, honest the guard, honestly.
There's like a bit of dust in the air and she'll lose her mind.
Have you seen, I keep seeing it quite viral online.
It's like the most overstimulating part of motherhood.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen that.
It's the most relatable content I've ever seen in my life.
It is, it is, but there's a lot of backlash on those videos have you seen.
Oh no, I just relate to it quietly.
Yeah, I know, yeah.
I think it's Montana.
Well, yeah, Montana round did it.
Yeah, I saw that.
She did a video on it and everyone in the comments was like,
you chose to have a baby when you had a dog.
Like, that poor dog deserves.
Oh, my gosh, she doesn't say anything bad.
She's just saying they're overstimulating.
They are overstimulating.
They are.
Especially when nap time.
I see what it is, it's because dogs can't read the room.
No.
Bua doesn't know this morning.
She lost her fucking mind at nothing, obviously.
And it won't jumpy up.
And it's like, that is just a not, like, it's not even necessarily your fault.
This is a very stimulating situation.
You've shouted, now she's shouting, and now we're all shouting.
Yeah.
And you still love the dog.
I still love the dog.
But Goddia is annoying sometimes when they wait the baby up.
Yeah.
I chose to marry Alex and I still get annoyed.
by him.
You know what I mean?
It's stupid logic.
Okay, all right, has something else bad.
Go on, please.
Well, I've been threatened.
You didn't do it bad, did you?
No.
No, no, I just have a bad.
You chose the awkward.
Yeah.
I've been threatened.
Oh, God.
It happens quite a lot now, but I've been threatened with a legal action.
Oh, my God.
You know about this?
Oh, my God.
So I made a video about Pamela Arnson and Millie Bobby Brown.
I know.
It's not gone great.
In any video, not by either of them.
I'll give you some back story.
I made a video about Millie Bobby Brown and Pamela
anderson i actually didn't think it was going to blow up like it did like it was not real but it
wasn't like my best work but it was all right anyway it's had like 15 million views
fucking hell yeah i know i've literally never had anything go so mad it so it's had yeah 15 million
views and it's been liked half a million times which is i've never had anything like it
fucking hell um i didn't blur the names of the people who'd commented so if you haven't seen this
real it's basically pamela anderson there was a video of
her at the end at the at the award season I don't know they're all award ceremonies okay so there's a video
of pamela Anderson and I saw it yeah I saw it and I saw on MTV uh Instagram and I looked at the
comments and all the comments were like she should have worn makeup why isn't she worn makeup she looks so
horrendous why is she aging like this blah blah blah the next video like two videos later I saw a video
of millie bobby brown at an award ceremony and all the comments were like oh my god she's wearing
so much makeup she's aged so badly what she done to her face why is she wearing such makeup like she looks so
unnatural. And I was like this is so funny that like you've got one woman not wearing
makeup and everyone's cross with her and then another woman wearing too much makeup quote
unquote and everyone's really cross with her. So I made this side by side video just using the
comments that I'd seen. Like I didn't go looking particularly hard. They were the most
liked comments on these videos. So like the very first one was the most liked one on the
MTV thing and had loads of like thousands of likes. So I put the video together, didn't hide
the names because these are public comments. People have left them yeah on public videos with
public, you know, public, you know, with their name showing.
So I just put them up as they are.
Anyway, two people from that video have been in touch with me.
And they're very fucking cross.
Oh, shit.
One of them is threatened to sue me for defamation and bullying.
Have you ever been threatened to be sued before?
Not for this, no.
Nothing like this.
Not for defamation and bullying.
So I replied to the first woman and she was like,
she was like, this is really bad.
You're, you're bullying me.
Because your comments taken what I've done.
She basically said my, my, what's it?
called caption, not like I do it for a job. My caption took her words out of context.
My caption didn't say anything about these comments. My caption said, whatever you do, ladies
don't age. Because I deliberately didn't want to say anything. I was like, I'm just going to
leave it here to make the point for itself. I don't need to say anything because the point makes
itself. So I didn't say anything anyway. So she was like, you're a bully. And I voice noted her
and I was like, I'm really sorry you feel this way. She basically said, you need to delete the
real. I was like, I'm not going to do that. And then she said, well, you need to make an edit and
explain let me explain myself and I said honestly like you can but I do think that's going to make
it way worse like also you can't edit rails yeah you also can't really explain yourself like you left
a shitty comment like you can try and explain yourself but just in order for me to protect you I need
to be honest like I don't think people are going to take it like if you come and say like all I didn't
like I don't it's like I'm sorry there's no way out of it yeah like you left the comment
on a public thing she was like you you shouldn't anyway it was really and I'm sorry I'm sorry
I'm sorry that this is overwhelming for you but like and I'm sorry and I'm sorry and I'm
Sorry. And I did feel like it's a bit of a hard, like it's a hard line and I don't really know what to do. Anyway, but then I've had another woman who've been in touch with the first woman and she said she was going to see me for defamation and bullying from my caption. But it's not defamation. Well, I wasn't going to her because I was like, this doesn't seem great. But then she left, she started sort of quote, unquote, trolling me. She started leaving comments underneath all of my photos and my other stuff. And then my followers were going and being like, this is a bit nuts because Em hasn't done anything wrong. You left a public comment.
So since then, she's gone away.
So other people kind of made the point for me without me having to.
But she said she was talking to her family lawyers and that I could expect, well,
then she said she was going to call my manager and I was like, oh, my manager's my husband.
He already knows I'm lying in bed with him right now.
But, yeah, so first she threatened me with calling my manager and then she threatened a lawyer.
And I was like, oh, my God.
I mean, I haven't done anything.
It's true.
Like, if you leave a public comment, back it.
Well, this is what I said to the first thing.
You're saying it with your chest, so say it with your chest and stand behind it.
Thousands of comments underneath them, you know, because these were comments that were very
liked on, and it was like when you were getting praise for what you'd said, you didn't really
have an issue with it.
It's now, it's like when people agreed with you.
When people agreed with you.
And I do think we need to learn some lessons about how to behave online because we're being
so horrible.
Awful.
Like those comments are just, and we're so used to them that they don't even seem that
bad but like they are they're just it's constant like it's just we've got so used to it so like
I like I like seeing people keeping usernames in because I'm like I think there has to be some
accountability on the internet I used to blur them you know yeah and now I definitely keep them in
because I think yeah exactly like if you're going to say it then stand by what you've said
yeah because yeah this woman said oh I'm going to go and take you know you've taken this out of
context I'm like I haven't really I haven't really
And well, no, because it's, well, that, it's not in a different context.
No, no, it's what you said.
It's the video and it's what you said against the video.
All I've done here is sort of introduce your actions to your consequences.
And like, if you don't like that, then the problem is what you said, not me.
All I've done is amplify what you said.
Yeah.
But I don't feel great about it because it's like, I don't feel great about it.
With things like this, you know what I find so interesting.
So I did a post about Suna Gomez, people last year at the Sagal
awards she'd put on weight yeah it was a very similar I literally bit you off because it
was a similar style sorry well yeah because it's happening like constantly so everyone's saying
she's she's too fat now this year everyone's like oh she's fucking on ozem pick like predictable
whatever and do you know what I find so interesting is how many people say in the comments
like well I'm not a fan of Selena but we talked about this before because I just find it so
interesting and I'm like I don't understand why people make that discreetly.
Like half of the comments are like, I don't really like Selena, I'm not a fan of Selena.
They say it under your reel and then defend her. Is that it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And
but these comments aren't right. And I just think it's really curious. It's like we're so
scared to like, it's so interesting. Do you think we've just not got enough niceness in it? Do you
think we think that there's like a... That's the thing. I don't know. I mean, as far as I know,
as far as I know, Selena's not a particularly problematic, like if we go back to what we're talking about
with Donald Trump last week
about, you know, people saying,
you know, standing up against body shaming
of him, you could say then,
I'm not a fan of Donald Trump, but
we shouldn't be body shaming anyone.
But it's like, I just don't get it.
Anytime I do a post like that about Taylor Swift,
and it's like, I don't understand that either.
It's like, I'm not a fan of Taylor Swift,
but I didn't like preface my post with,
I'm not a fan of Taylor Swift, but I just think it's so funny.
I think people think they're being very diplomatic and fair.
I think people think they're being really big thinkers when they do something like that.
It's like, now look, I'm going to give you a lesson in diplomacy here because I don't like her, but even I can see that this is wrong.
Like I think people do it from like an authoritative perspective.
It's like, I'm not blinded by my love.
I'm not blinded by something as fickle as fandomness.
I see.
I don't like her and I can tell you objectively that this is wrong.
Like I don't know if people do it from a sense of self-importance.
Yeah, that makes sense.
But it doesn't know because it's not.
It makes more sense because...
But it's still passing...
I don't think people hear themselves
because it's still passing a comment
that's just unnecessary.
It's really unnecessary.
Did you see... Grace Beverly,
this is a very convoluted way of addressing this,
but Grace Beverly did a TikTok video
about Amber Driscoll and Casperley getting married.
Sorry, I've really gone around the house.
No, I haven't seen it.
But Amber Driscoll, who's an influence of married,
Casperley, is a YouTuber,
and she looked fucking gorgeous.
But loads of the comments...
Yeah.
were about how people didn't like her dress.
I've heard about this.
And Grace did a video basically being like,
keep it in the fucking group chat.
Like don't comment underneath somebody's video.
Oh, I see.
And honestly, like, remember,
we did an episode about this years ago
about people who were horrible about my dress
and my hair at my wedding.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it was genuinely still to this day
one of the most hurtful things
that's happened to me on the internet
is finding these comments of people being like,
don't like her dress,
don't like her hair.
Why did she do that she looks?
Why do people feel the need to do it?
I don't understand.
And we're getting so,
it's just,
we're just seeing it more and more and more and more and more.
I actually,
I'm looking at it now.
And this is the thing,
like my instinct is to go,
but it's beautiful,
she look beautiful.
But actually that doesn't matter.
Not the point.
It's not the point and it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter whether I think she looks beautiful
or she doesn't look beautiful.
But you're right with,
it's how comfortable we are to talk openly,
very publicly and to say,
to speak,
well,
just, gossip, gossip.
It is gossip.
It's gossip.
It used to be like in magazines,
It used to be like gossip used to be only magazines
and we kind of talk about the magazines
like in our little circles
and now it's on steroids
because it's on social media
and we're gossiping with like millions of people all over the world
but I've taken our gossip to like a whole new level.
Like if I saw you commenting on someone's wedding dress video
being like, don't like the dress,
I'd be like, Alex, what are you doing?
What are you doing?
It would be like I saw this guy once that I know
and it was my friend's brother
and he's like all my sister's right anyway like family friend kind of guy and I saw him comment on this
video of and it was it was really bad it was a disabled woman who had been left on an aeroplane
because they didn't bring up her wheelchair and I was like and I saw him comment being like
fucking get over it like you got off the flight didn't you want you and I honestly I was like
I know him and I was so I commented underneath and I was like this is fucking horrible
I hope you're really ashamed of yourself.
And then I removed him and so, like, I know his parents very well.
Like, it was, I was so, but it was like, it made me realize that everybody knows somebody.
Do you know what I mean?
Seven degrees of separation.
So when there's always these comments, I'm like, are you not embarrassed?
That's not what I meant at all.
I'm with you, though.
But like, are you not embarrassed that people can see you being, like, yeah, talk about it with your friends.
And if you don't have friends that are as chronically online as you, either make new friends or
get offline, as much as you are.
But, like, is this, I think this is a sad indictment of how, like, used to this stuff
we are that a part of me is like, oh, well, it's nice that he did it with his own, not nice,
but like, it's good that he did his own account rather than create a fake account.
Like, isn't that crazy that where my brain goes is like, oh, at least he's like,
he said it with his chest.
Yeah.
But that's, I know, I know, that's, yeah, I don't know.
It's like different levels of shitness, but.
I find it, I don't know, like, it just makes.
makes me, I know ultimately we'll all just have to end up with much thicker skins
or shocking mental health or both. But it just, it's not just like, it's a celebrity
culture, but it like it just permeates down into being like, to be so comfortable on
someone's wedding day that you don't know, it's a very, very small step to someone that you do
know or someone that you vaguely know. And it's like, it's just horrible. It's just really
And yeah, it is celebrities and a lot of people like, oh, but they're celebrities and blah, blah, blah, they asked for it, blah, blah, blah, all of that, you know, stupid narrative.
But as with anything, really, it all trickles, it trickles down from celebrities.
And it used to trickle down from, like, celebrities into, like, the general public.
But now I think it, like, trickles down from, like, celebrities, influences to us.
And so we're saying all these things about celebrities.
And it's, like, the gateway into saying things then about influencers.
and then we, it's just normalising it all.
But also, you can go viral completely by accident now on TikTok
and on Instagram and whatever.
So that's kind of wild as well,
that it's like you can accidentally.
And then all these people are saying,
oh, you're viral, so you're mine.
Like it's, you're available for public consumption.
I don't like it.
Can I lighten the up, the mood?
Please, yeah, because I am, also, am I in the wrong?
Like, do I need to be, have I, with the suing thing?
Like, should I not put their names out there?
No, because they,
left, they left that comment publicly, yeah.
I don't, because, yeah, there's some of the messages about me being a hypocrite and a bully and
like all of this stuff and it's like, it really gets, I think that's, I've been feeling
really anxious for a little while now and I think that might be why. I said to Fay this morning,
I don't think anyone likes me. Oh, that'll be why. Do you think? Yeah, there's always
a, am I a bully and a hypocrite? Like, that's what's, that's where I've gone. No, there's
always a, there's always something behind it. Yeah, we're going to have every morning, being like
everyone hates me. No, that'll be it. Cool, cool.
Just listen to this video
Now that I found myself
on the British side of TikTok
I need to know the truth
I'm probably gonna sound
like the biggest idiot
but I have been scrolling
and I have been seeing
conflicting stories
what's the deal with the tea time alarms
is it a real thing
is it just a big joke on us Americans
is it a real thing
is it a big fat joke
please somebody spill the tea
now that I found
tea time alarms
Tea time alarms
What a tea time alarm
So like
you're basically everywhere in the UK
an alarm sounds and you must have tea.
Did someone tell if that's what happened?
And the comments, I am dying, can I just read out a few?
No, babe, I wish it was fake, but it's actually such a lovely thing.
Tea time alarm is so real.
Anyone saying it's a joke really needs to have a word with themselves
because it really isn't funny tricking visitors into getting fined like this.
It's only enforceable if you are registered with the TVLA,
but nearly everyone is because of the tea license.
I'm on a tea time awareness course as we speak
because I kept missing the alarms.
Oh.
As a German living in the UK,
I'm exempt from the tea time alarm
and I don't have to partake.
I have to carry an exemption pass
on a land yard.
Oh, bless that.
Can I say something really controversial, quietly?
I know, it is mean.
I don't like tea.
You only get an exemption
if you're unconscious
and conscious people don't want to say,
I can't, I can't, I can't,
I can't do this.
How can you not like tea?
It's like the least offensive.
It's like the least offensive drink.
No, it's not.
Yes, it definitely is.
It tastes of basically nothing.
I don't mean that.
That's bad in itself, isn't it?
I don't want to get shit for that.
I mean the way most people drink it,
it tastes like basically nothing.
That's why I have.
What do you mean?
Do you drink it better than everyone?
I do.
I'm a superior to you drink.
The way that everybody else drinks is disgusting.
No, I have like double bags and no milk.
So it's like strong and like,
and intense and gives me the caffeine hit I'm after
because I don't like coffee.
Coffee's way better than tea.
Like, let's do a poll.
Way better than tea.
Tea or coffee?
One for the rest of your life.
Only one.
Coffee.
Good choice.
Trater.
Dex.
Yeah, coffee.
My people.
Three against one.
They've spoken.
I know Alex is on our side.
I don't even need to ask him.
Yeah.
And he's coffee will be too.
Yeah.
Because coffee is.
Sample will be.
Yeah.
She knows.
She knows.
She knows where I'm red spotted.
She's coffee all the way.
I drink chai.
I won't drink tea.
I don't understand it.
Do you not?
I also don't, no, no, no, no.
I don't understand it.
And I tried.
I tried, it's the same way that I tried to drink beer
because I felt like I should,
because everybody else did.
And I just can't do it.
I don't understand.
I like, I will drink chai.
I like chai.
It's very, very sweet.
Never tried chai.
Chai is delicious.
Having a cup of tea is one of the greatest joys in my day.
Same with me in coffee.
It's the biggest joy of my life.
Do you agree with her?
yeah it's amazing but it doesn't do what coffee does no
in terms of sweet nectar isn't it in terms of the effect
like the caffeine does I think oh fuck a cup of coffee is like
oh god do you have sweet your coffees no no no it's like having a cigarette
I see any way I can describe it it puts me like a cigarette
but are you talking about the like physical effect like do you enjoy the taste of it
yes fuck yes really just delicious okay if it didn't give you the caffeine here
you didn't give you a buzz we just
drink it.
Yeah, every day.
Oh, well.
Yeah, yeah.
That's fucking great.
I just think it ruins cakes, coffee.
Oh, I'd agree with it.
There's no place for coffee in a cake.
Like, people eat coffee, ice cream?
I'd argue that there's not much that should go in a cake beyond cake.
Hard disagree.
Lemon cake.
No, banana cake.
Fine.
Don't you start with your banana cake.
No, I don't want to get into that.
You've got absolutely no authority to speak on that subject.
Raisin cake.
Fucking disgusting.
Corsette cake is so nice.
I don't believe you.
I think you're just saying vegetables now before cake.
Corgette cake.
The corgette makes it incredibly moist.
We did an entire episode about diet culture's stupid things
and I would argue that corgette's in a cake,
that's a wellness problem.
No, because it doesn't make it any like, quote unquote, healthy.
Then why are they putting a corgette in the cake?
Because it makes it really moist because it holds so much water.
But it's perfectly moist cakes already.
No, but this is like extra moist.
Carrot cake, as long as it doesn't have so no minute.
It's so good.
I don't understand that.
I don't like carrot cake.
It belongs with cake.
I don't like any of the things that you said.
So you would just like a lump of cake.
Cake, yeah.
No buttercream.
No, cream.
But cream is a cake thing.
Carrot's not a cake thing.
Like, I think you can put cake things like icing, fruit, like like a strawberry jam thing.
That's fine.
Like berries, fruit.
Fine.
They're sweet.
Sweet cake.
I think the exact word, there is nothing that should be.
In cake apart from cake.
In cake, apart from cake.
Yeah, but these things would fit.
Fine, okay, I was scratch that from the record.
Sweet things with sweet things.
I don't think there's a place.
Why are you putting a carrot in a cake for?
I just don't understand.
It's like, it's like I'll have a bite of it.
And I'm like, wow, this is like a cake, but worse.
Like, this could have been a really nice cake, but there's a carrot in it.
No, because it's really, like, wet and moist and like...
I don't want a really wet cake.
Do you know what?
No, I want a fluffy cake.
I don't know a wet cake.
Oh, I want a wet cake.
No, I don't want a wet cake for.
I want a dripping cake.
Why do you want a wet cake for?
I don't understand.
I like that.
I don't, I don't...
I don't, I like it.
I don't know.
I like it.
I like it when it's dense and wet.
No.
Okay, right.
Okay, well, we're on bread.
So why are you up with bread?
Are you one of those people that looks like a sort of like a heavy brown loaf, like a weapon?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like a draft excluder type.
Yeah, I love like, yeah.
Would you choose that over like a sourdough?
Heavy German bread.
What?
Rye, dog.
It's one of, like, genuinely, I can't quantify anything like the disappointment I feel when I go to a restaurant, that's the bread that comes out.
Like, if they bring out, like, if it's done well,
brown bread like very thick bread thin slice i get so upset like i want to see the plate through my
bread even if you cover it in butter though yeah no no oil no no salt no i want i want to see the
table i mean i love sourdough as well don't get me wrong okay so sourdough or soda bread okay i have
something controversial to ask maybe it's not controversial do you like jason's bread what's
is jason's bread oh god do you don't know what jason's bread is you don't jason sourdough
It's like,
What's Jason sourdough?
What's he making, where's he making,
I'll try his sourdough and it's.
We Google it.
Yeah, I can't believe you haven't tried it.
I feel like it's what everyone kind of like all millennials eat nowadays.
Oh, what?
No, I don't, I don't want bread in plastic.
I want bread and paper.
Look, I'm a millennial.
Yeah.
I want bread in paper.
I want, I want my paper.
I want my loaf in a paper bag.
I don't want to buy it in plastic because then it's going to get soggy.
It's going to get, you know, when you keep your toast,
like when you make sandwiches
and you've been caping it in the bag for too long
and then it gets kind of like
soft from being in the bag
like almost condensationing
yeah
and then you want to keep it in the paper bag so it stays dry
God I never knew that
I never thought about that
Do you know what I mean?
Oh do you?
Face my gal today
Faye and I are on a page here
I'm enjoying this I was scared I would be alone
I hate to be alone
I'm friends
Oh podcast friends
Jason's how they just it
Pretty good
But I'm just not sure
That there's a place for it
I don't know why they put it in a plastic bag for
Well half of it's paper
If you look
If you're the other half's plastic
Whatever
Whatever
Before we wrap up
Can I just air my grievances
With
I mean how long have we got
Social media at the moment
Yeah yeah good
Yeah let's go
No it's not
It's very lighthearted
Oh good fine
That song
I can't even say it like
Because it's just gonna be
Somebody's watching me
Oh, Messi's a great song
That's one I went viral to
I hate it so much
You kidding, it's a fucking great song
Why do you have to do it?
Why are you like this?
No, no, listen
I am happy for, no no
It's not even about that
I'm happy for her
She's a great artist
I'm glad she's had that success
But honestly
It's actually going to give me
Anxiety attack
If I hear it like once more
Do you know people are annoyed
with her for being a NEPO baby
Because her auntie is Julia Donaldson
Who wrote The Groffalo
What a hand-up
She's had in life
No, she probably has it's but whatever
I didn't know that
I didn't know that
she's doing well
and good on her
no one would care
if Julia Donaldson's nephew
had written that song
It's so annoying
It's a great song
I could listen to it
It's on the par with me
with Miley Cyrus flowers
and that like
that song that was on every real last shit
is like
um
da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da
You know what you sound like
a boomer
Dare to be different
These are all great songs
They get stuck in my head
And they go round and round and round and round
And when I wake up in the middle of the night
It's all I can hear
Is because I'm too messy
Do you feel called out by it?
I can't bear it
I hate it
And it's going to lead me to another
I think I am a boomer
It's going to need me something else
I've been driving a lot recently
Boomer
We don't do that anymore
Not very well
I'm talking I drive it
I mean, I'm not kidding.
Let's not get into that.
No, don't have time.
And I've been listening to Radio 1.
Oh, that's fine.
That's very young.
I just think that the songs that are produced nowadays,
they're just not very good.
So I went to Radio 2, but that's a bit too all for me.
What?
Radio 2 is great.
I just, the problem with Radio 2 is it's broken up.
I'm stuck, basically.
I just think there's no radio that I like.
Oh, good.
There's a lot.
I mean, you could go for.
heart? I feel like you might
quite... No, it's all going to be a bit happy.
The problem, I think the fundamental problem for you
is, and I say this with a hug,
is that
radio presenters are paid to be quite
chippy, no, chirpy, chirpy,
up, happy, happy people.
They're paid to be happy. I like, I don't mind the radio presenters.
I actually like it when it goes back to them, they start talking.
And then it goes to another fucking awful song,
and I'm like, how? Is this been allowed
to get onto Radio One?
And I can hear myself.
Honestly, I can hear myself.
I am a C word.
I know, I know.
But just, I just, I just don't think the music's very good anymore.
I'm, I think if I wanted to give you a horrible afternoon,
I could just give you my new running playlist that I've made
because I probably pulled them all from radio ones.
No, because you have, you have sugar babies.
I love sugar babies.
You have sugar babies on there.
You have like.
Oh, no, that's, I don't know.
Oh, no.
It's current.
Yeah, yeah.
My current running playlist is just downloaded the top, the charts.
The ones that I like, yeah.
Download at the top 50.
When I go for a little walk, when I go for my,
little walks more often than not I've got hot hits
UK in my ears
yeah
no I hate it
I hate it all
that's the eight years between us six years between
seven years between us
six
that's the six years between us
it's a chasm
it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a gaping chasm
between us it's never felt wider than it has today
an older millennial
and maybe you're a younger one
that's interesting that you like the presenters though
yeah when they start talking
sort of upbeat monotony might get to you.
Well, yeah, I like it when they're talking about something interesting,
not just like trying to fill the gaps between like awful song to awful song.
Oh, I hate myself.
I know, I just like them all.
What I would like is I would like there to be a radio station of my Spotify playlist.
Why don't you just listen to your Spotify plays?
Because I like the talking, I like someone to come on in between.
I like to, I like it to be narrated.
I would like, I would like a narration of my Spotify playlist.
I think that would be excellent.
There will be something out there for you.
Melancholy FM, something like that,
Misery FM, something like that.
You could pitch it.
I can't believe there's no like radio stations
doesn't just play like sadder songs, you know?
I don't think the nation needs it
and I think that's probably what, I don't think we need it.
I think that's something that you do on your own time.
That's why streaming platforms do so well.
That's why spot.
Yes, because that's like, you know,
you'd be sad on your time,
like we'll come to you for the sweet, sweet relief.
We'll come to you for the...
You go home and you...
You give us because I'm too messy.
Sorry.
I do like that other one though
that all day, every day.
Too much labour.
I think that was a really good song.
That's not going to be on the radio though.
That's a feminist dance thing.
Yeah, I really like that.
Yeah, they're not going to play that on radio one.
But I'm too messy and I'm too clean.
I'm just like...
It's such a good song.
In what sense?
Oh my God, in every sense.
It's catchy as hell.
I'll give it that.
It's catchy as hell.
It's catchy as hell.
which is the backbone of a good song in this day and age.
Two, the lyrics are so good.
She's really speaking to a lot of people there.
Like, this man, when she says at the end,
it's about her parents.
Oh my God, that's even better then.
No, it's about her boyfriend.
About her parents.
Oh, my God, that makes perfect sense.
But then saying that I could be a thousand versions for you
and you'll hate the fucking lot.
That is such a key message.
That's exactly what we're trying to say
is you're going to try and be all these things.
You're going to try and perform.
You're going to try and be happy.
You're going to try and be clean.
No, my God.
are you getting it speaking right, it's speaking right to the, to the core of the issue.
My, just my misery, hatred of the song.
Oh my God, no, it's, I honestly, I would argue you this video for hours.
It plays in my head. It plays in my head.
But I feel like that's a you problem. I don't think it's the song.
Oh, it's all, all of this is a new problem.
All of it.
No, honestly, that last line, like, I just, I think they should play that in schools.
I haven't heard that last line, actually. That isn't my last night.
I'll give her that.
Yeah.
But the whole, that's the whole point of the song.
No, just, thank God you're not leaving these comments publicly because you're
exactly to go back to the beginning of the episode.
No, because I wouldn't because, like, I don't want to upset anyone.
This is, this is my internal grief, you know.
Like, I don't, I don't want to, I don't want to upset anyone.
I'm not, I'm not looking to cancel lowly young.
Yeah, or give her a hard time.
She's fine.
You've certainly given her that, Al.
She gives me a hard time.
No, she doesn't.
It's a great song.
I'm pleased for her.
Go, go.
Enjoy your success.
We will go, but before we go, can I say, we saw her at the brits and I thought,
what an absolute treat.
Like, good feet.
you.
I don't say it.
Good for you.
Yeah.
But never mind that.
Yeah, yeah, she performed.
But it's like how cool.
I'm really enjoying the TikTokification of music in that like I think it's really
leveling the game.
It is.
And it's so cool to see like young artists and obviously people are going to say when she's
Julie Donaldson and sneeze so she's well or whatever.
But generally like to see like young artists make so much success so quickly is so cool.
Like same with them Miles.
Oh, fuck.
What was it?
Miles Smith is it?
Your man who did stargazing?
like he performed and it's like how cool is this
it is really cool
you've had these incredibly viral songs
that come out of nowhere and they've launched you
to the stratosphere and you're playing at the Brits
and it's just really cool
you're right it's levelling the playing field for sure
yeah love to see it yeah love to see it
some of us love to see it obviously some of us
fucking hate it
I love to see the concept
there's a heap to hear that song
yeah just do it without me
I think the place for you is Radio 2 at 12 o'clock
the Jeremy Vine show yeah I think
you could actually ring in
with some of your grievances.
I think there's a big market for this.
Yeah?
Yeah.
I think Jeremy Vines where you belong.
Right.
There we go.
I'll tell you what,
if you want to be depressed by the radio,
you should just listen to the news.
That'll do it.
That'll bring you right back down.
Okay, great.
This has been good.
This has been good.
I just feel like I've got a lot of my chest.
Good.
We'll see everyone on Monday, won't we?
Well, the ones that still want us.
Yeah, if you're still here,
no hate me.
I'm sorry.
I'm miserable bitch.
Love you guys.
Bye.
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