Should I Delete That? - Just Us: Overthinking, Christmas enthusiasm and finding the joy in small things

Episode Date: December 11, 2025

Guys!!! The goose is getting fat - according to Al...Today we discuss fully getting into the Christmas spirit - and the morality and mythology of elf on the shelf!Em tells us about her passion for Super Bass, Faye reveals the secret hiding in her notes app and we present the defence for overthinking…Would you like to get in touch? Email us on [e-mail] Follow us on Instagram:@shouldideletethat@em_clarkson@alexlight_ldnShould I Delete That is produced by Faye LawrenceStudio Manager: Elliott MckayVideo Editor: Celia GomezSocial Media Manager: Sarah EnglishMusic: Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello and welcome back to should I delete that. I'm all excited. And I'm M. Clarkson. How are we? How are we? And the goose is getting fat. I don't know. So how you wanted me to respond.

What? Tell me. Sing it through. I don't know this one. Sounds like a banger. You don't know that? No. Guys.

What? Christmas is coming and the goose is getting fat. Is it a song? Please put a penny in the old man's hat. What's happening? Guys, Elliot? Oh, my God. This is a very famous song.

Is it on your sad girl's playlist? Christmas is coming, the goose is getting fat. Please put a penny in the old man's hat. If you haven't got a penny, a half penny will do. If you haven't got a half penny, then God bless you. Can I just say? I feel like that sums up incredibly well the difference in music. like if we could look at sorry let me say that again look at the lyrics right okay so can you just

read that for me again please christmas is coming and the goose is getting fat please put a penny in the old man's hat if you haven't got a penny a half penny you'll do if you haven't got a half penny then god bless you okay so in not that long like not that maybe that's 60 years old 50 years old okay that song i'm gonna guess half pennies half pennies yeah within In the 100 years, okay? Humanity's not changed that much. And yet, this one is for the boys with the booming system, top down AC with the coolest system. When he come up in the club, you'd be blazing up.

These are the lyrics that we grow up with. Those are the lyrics that our generation grew up with. I did some Nicky Minaj. I think it actually, this probably goes the longest way to explaining the generational differences. Like, no wonder we don't get on with our parents politically or have any common ground when that's what they grew up with. And this is what we grew up with. again, no, I'm prepared. I can hit you with any of this.

I mean, I can probably do it. I don't know why I'm reading off a screen. Is this that's going to the beach? No, this is super bass. I actually think if you left me to it, I could do all the words to this song. You can't threaten us like that. Come on. No, I'd need the song playing, but I actually would do it.

I've actually got it on video. I've done it like six times. I can get the acoustic. Wait, wait, okay, let me get the acoustic version. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. But I just think, like, okay, let's, like, got stacks on deck. Like, let's just have some fun, like, with some.

lyrics here, okay? She's a word smith. Got stacks on deck like he's saving up and he ill, he reel. He might got a deal. He popped bottles and he got the right kind of build. He cold, he dope. He might sell coke. He's always in the air, but he never flies coach.

That is very different to the goose getting fat. It's very different. But the world's changed. Geese is still getting fat, but everyone else is on an aeroplane doing cocaine. We can't play this because of licensing issues. But it's a good song. I'll do this the whole way home. Nothing makes me happy than Superboast.

No, that's not. not true. My children make me happy than SuperBase. But it is, I'm prone to hyperbole. I know it. It's a close second. It's a great song. I just, music's changed so much. Yeah, it really and I feel like Christmas highlights that because we are stuck, we're stuck in the past with some of them. Well, it's like that song that we sing at, um, on New Year's, Old Langs sign. What's Old Langs sign? What song do we sing at New Year's? Oh, come on. I've never sung in song. If I'm singing a song at New Year's, it's super bass. Old Lang sign. Oh my God. Elliot.

Oh my God, Faye. That you're both, that's really weird. You sing a song, Old Lanzine, when it turns midnight. And then you do a little dance. And you're like, link arms. Yeah, you do Linc Arns and do a dance. Old Lanzine.

What's just happening? Oh my God, what? How have you? Who do you dance? Where do you learn the dance? What is it? It's not like a... It's not like a...

Line dance? It's not like a... Jazz? Where do we come from? It's not like that. Where'd you go? Where are it to come from? I'm got now, Joe.

Oh, I love Christmas. Oh, Old Lang sign. It actually means times long past for old times' sake. I just sound a bit of you. Sounds sad. Old Lang sign? I just can't believe it. You keep saying Old Lang sign.

I don't know what it is. It's a Scottish song. Can you show me the dancer two of you? In the English speaking world, it is traditionally sung to bid farewell to the old year at the stroke of midnight on New Year's Eve. Okay. Can I see it? There is no, that you just link arms. Koki, you link arms, and you go,

For old, and you go in together. Oh, I know this song. Yeah. I know this song. Thank you. But anyone's ever tried to link my arms or sing it to me at New Year's. I've only ever seen it on a film, I think. Yeah, it's quite emotional.

That's how it's felt. Isn't that so fucking random? You guys just are with me. Old Lang sign. Yeah. I don't know why I thought you were saying that whole time. Old Lange sign. I thought you'd sing like Old Land sign. Okay,

like a whole three words thing. Yeah, fine. Okay, yeah, I know that song. I don't even how you go on to that. Christmas, it's Christmas. It's Christmas. Christmas is coming. Yeah.

What problem? Unproblematic lyrics because I keep listening to Band-Dade. Do they know it's Christmas? It's such a good song. Good Christmas song. Why is that problematic? Are you kidding. Sing it?

Tonight, thank God it's them instead of you. Horrible lyrics. What's it about? About poverty, about children and Ethiopia are dying. Okay, go on, so with the lyrics. The only gift they'll get this year is, I'm doing this off on the top of my head because I love this song. What song is it?

Sing it again? So do they know it's Christmas time at all? Which again, Ethiopia is a very, very, I think Christian or Catholic country, so chances are yes. But is that what they mean when they sing? Do they know it's Christmas time at all? The only gift they'll get this year is life. The only water flowing is the bitter sting of tears.

thank God it's them instead of you and the way we sing that out oh my god I did not know that I mean it did raise like I don't want to like completely come in with a modern glare and be like it's a completely terrible thing and it needs to be cancelled

because I do believe it raised a lot of money and I think their intentions were good but with a modern lens and with modern ears well with any ears I think you've probably always been able to listen to that and been like this is horrible this is awful

so I think they've tried they did they did do a really record a few years ago where they changed those words but we always sing the a lot that's quite problematic now isn't there they've changed the they've changed fairy tale of New York as well

whereas she's like you're a bum you're a maggot you're a cheap lousy F word as it was and they've now changed that to something else which is interesting because she died as every dad will tell you in a speedboat accident every time my dad

every time Kirstie McCaffin comes up every time Is that? You're one who sung that song, Shane McGowan and Kirstie McAlpine. Macalpine? No. McCall. Yeah, who's Kirstie McAlpine?

I think she's a TV presenter. I'm wrong. Kirsty McCall. So she didn't say that one. She died in a speedbite accident. She done in a speedbatchez. Yeah, really bad. That's awful.

She got a leg propeller. It was really bad. My dad put the absolute fear of death in me about it. Tommy loves bar bar black sheep. Uh-huh. And I've heard that that's problematic. No, they've just added verses now. Okay.

Bar-Bah, black sheep, bar-bub red sheet, blah-bla-blah white sheet, blah-blah-blah-blah-blah green sheet. I think they've, there's just amendments being made. Okay, okay, okay. The Grand-old Duke of York is proving to be problematic. Humpty Dumpty's problematic, right? Well, no one says that he's an egg. That's what's the weirdest about that one.

Yeah. Humpty-dumpty sat on a wall. Humpty-dumpty had a great fall. All the king's soldiers and all the king's men, no, all the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't put him back together again. What are the horses do? That's traumatic. Well, incredibly.

That's really traumatic. me put back together, but what are they going to do with their hooves? Big old clumsy hooves. Yeah, the last creature I would call in a crisis, have I fallen off a wall, someone get me a fleet of horses. I need the steady hands of a surgeon, not a fucking hoof. Four, and they just come with one. They're going to come with all of them, and they can't use them all at once,

so they're going to have the first two clumping together, shoving you back together. But it doesn't say that he's an egg. So it's like, right, so you've just got, what, body parts, every, like, that's a horrendous. It's traumatic.

Horrible. But Christmas songs, by and large, problematic, problematic as some may be. They just, they just, they just tickle me.

Controversially. Go on. Christmas Lights by Chris Martin. No, no, no, no. I can't believe you just heard that. Do you believe in Christmas by Greg Lake?

And I feel like you'd fucking love it if you don't know it. It's very sad. And it's lovely. It's a beautiful song. Oh, okay. It's love. Why have I got two quite sad ones?

Christmas, Christmas, It's lovely also. I lovey 17. Yeah, okay, fine. Stay another day. I don't know if that's strictly speaking a Christmas song. Yes, very much so.

Yes, they're in the snow and their white coat and they're all white outfits. It's a Humpty Dumpty situation where it's just like we've got it on the pictures, but the lyrics aren't, do you know what I mean? It's like we know who's an egg because the cover art. I don't know if they did cover art for nursery rhymes. Yeah, you're thinking about it. The lyrics aren't very Christmassy. No, I'm not sure they are.

Stay now. I just think it's a song. I think it's a banger. I also love. one sec just for your own ears do you just play do you believe

in Christmas oh it's so lovely I just want to get festive with you oh I believe in Father Christmas I know the words wrong if you don't know it it's just lush

you'll love it it's miserable oh my god I love it so depressing isn't it be peace son actually you're going to love it I love it

yeah okay we can I absolutely love it, okay. I love it, I love it. I also love a space one came traveling. Oh, lovely. Christopher. Lovely. I'm going to listen to Christmas songs the whole way home.

I've been doing it hot Christmas. They've been playing it since like November started. Stunning. Yeah. I love it. I honestly, every year I think I was like the pick me of Christmas. Like I was trying to be like chill and like I'm not going to get over enthusiastic. I nothing.

No. Now I'm like in this world. Balls deep. Give me. Balls to the one. Yes. I want. I want glitter. I want chocolate for breakfast, lunch and dinner. We've got chocolate decorations

on the tree this year. I'm doing elf on the shelf. I love that. I want magic. Elf on the shelf is, I can't wait until Tommy's old enough for elf on the shelf. I'm just, I don't know what it is. There's something in me at the moment that's just, I'm not in the mood for it. People moaning about all this stuff all the time. Well, I mean, I don't want to call you out, but I do remember a few weeks back, me being very excited about Christmas and you being, you're shutting me down. Oh, is it? I don't remember this. No, you did. Sorry, I meant specifically about Elf on the Shelf, sorry for that. Oh, no, it's fine.

I mean, specifically when it's like parents who are like super grumpy about, about, about Elf on the Shelf and like, and they're like, oh, it's the worst time of, you know, like, I've got to, like, oh, I've got to make Christmas magic for my kids. And I get that we've got to big to do list, but also it's like, I know, and they're only little ones. I know, but I hate that. I hate that. I hate when people say that. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I just feel like, I just feel like it's going to end up in therapy one day because it's just going to be like kids being like, well, my parents did all. all the stuff amid Christmas, but they always hated it. Do you know what I mean? That's my biggest fear. Do you know what I mean, though?

I might do health on the shelf this year, even though he doesn't understand it. It's great. It'll still be exciting for him to see it. Oh, yeah, it's gas. I don't know. Although, I have to say, we tried it before. I explained it to Rowe the night before, but I forgot to tell her that the elf was tiny.

So she did a, she was terrible this morning. I was like, shall we go and look for the, buddy? Well, I said like, should we go and look for the elf and then she just, like, her eyes just widened and I was like, and I looked at her. I was like, oh my God, do you think it's a real elf? I was like, obviously, terrified. She was expecting Buddy, what's his name? It's a magic baby.

Yeah, but yeah, but yeah, no, I think as we went to Lapland, she was expecting one of those elves. And then she said, is it a man elf? And I was like, as she asked that, I was like, oh no, baby it's a toy elf. It's a magical toy. And then she was so relieved. What's his name? I can't believe I didn't tell him that. Will Farrell.

Yeah, no. That would be a big surprise. Yeah, famously a very big elf. Yeah, yeah, huge. Yeah, I mean, it's like six foot five. Well, Farrell, what are you doing in here? Yeah, I forgot to tell her that That's the other thing

It's like you really do forget You're in charge of everything Do you know what I mean? Like the dream You've got to sell it But also you've got to finesse it If you miss out a tiny detail You can traumatise them

Oh don't That's so much pressure I can't Oh I told that there was an elf Coming to the house But I didn't realise I'd need to stipulate That it had to be a tiny

It was gonna be a teeny tiny elf Thinking about it now That's exactly what I would think as well Yeah yeah She's been to Lapland Like that to her as an elf A human is an elf And then we have an elf

coming to the house who's going to be hiding in the house show a little doll and then they expected to go to sleep at night so we don't recall like checking her wardroats while you sleep tonight

else's going to hide in the house that's horrible no that's short I mean there's a lot of Christmas there is it's far of Christmas a man you don't know is going to come down your chimney I know

it's an outrageous invasion I know it is isn't it yeah it's kind of weird yeah and he watches you while you're sleeping and mummy kissed him underneath the mistletoe she tickled his beard

he knows when you're sleeping and he knows when you're awake. Yeah, so don't pout. You know if you've been bad or good. Yeah, so it'll be good for goodness sake. Yeah, you better not shout out. You better not cry. You better not.

You better not, pal, I'm telling you why. We've got to like. Santa Claus. I know. Very threatening young. Incredibly threatening. Yeah. Oh.

I know. Ho, ho no, you know. Oh, ho no. I can understand why the boomers can't stand us ruining Christmas and, you know, like woking everything up. But then sometimes I'm like, I can see why everyone's miserable in therapy and stressed out all the time. Yeah.

Like, no wonder we're also high performing. We thought he was there all the time. Yeah, but like, yeah, well, but I was going to say, do we think too much? Which, yes, I think we do. But also, no, that is actually true. If you think he is this omnipresent. I've got something to say on this thing that's constantly watching over you, monitoring every single little action and behavior.

Like, dares something be bad. You know, Al. Everyone does bad things. We live in a Christian country. This is a teaching by which we are all raised. God's watching. Yeah. He's our on the present.

And I think on this note, Father Christmas is probably his elf. You know what I mean? Make sure we're extra good at Christmas. Oh, wow. Yeah, let's go there. Wow. Like, you just made a link I was not prepared for. We've got to be good all year round, but the incentives higher at Christmas, you know what I mean?

They're sending Santa down. Santa's, because they know that, like, people aren't, people aren't taking the God stuff seriously in us. So they've got to really, you know, be here for good behavior. I, yeah. I was about, yeah, is it Jesus or is it God? I don't know. What? Is he Jesus' elf or is he God's elf?

I think Jesus was an elf too by that. If we're sticking with this analogy, I'm going to be very upsetting to Christian listeners, sorry. To religious people, yeah, no, God, sorry. I just think, like, in that context, I really just press the fuck it button today. I think I mean in that context, with my face, I should keep hitting it. I think I mean in the context. Your nose is bleeding. I mean in the context of like, if, if, if, yes, I know what I mean.

He's on behalf of God. If the idea of elf on the shelf is that elf is going to go back and tell Santa, I feel like Jesus might have been. Well, yeah, so the elf watches to make sure that you're being good so he can tell Santa. But the elf's don't. the bad things, isn't he? He's doing the naughty things. He's just on the shelf, I don't know. No, but that's the point of Elf on the shelf, isn't it? But he does naughty thing. Like, you wake up every day and he's done something naughty. Why would I want him doing something naughty? But that's the

point of Elf on the shelf. I think he's doing something funny. I think he's just being a hoot. I think he's just being cheeky. But I think the point is that he's in the house and he's an incentivisation for the kid to be good. That's horrible. I don't really like that. I would like my kid to want to be good for the sake of being good, not because there's an elf in the house who might report back to Santa, who might report then back to God. Well, yeah. This is horrible. Yeah, no, I'd rather him just have a good heart and want to be good.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's fine. I also want that, but I also want Arlo to put her wellies on. So I'm like, being watching. Get your fucking wellies on. I don't know.

I don't, this is what I mean. I don't like having to be, I don't like to be in charge of morality. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. you know I'm very overwhelmed someone I saw someone put on Instagram my child will hear

me say fuck but he'll never hear me say he'll never hear me say like I feel fat or something like something like that or not all the word naughty and I was like oh god I say the word naughty all the time they probably meant naughty in the context of like eating a biscuit being naughty didn't think about that that's exactly what it is because I was like oh my god I always say naughty

I'm like Betty's being naughty isn't she I was like, yeah, I do not all the time. Oh, fine, okay. But then I saw a video saying, we don't use the word silly in our house. Oh, I'm a silly sausage. Yeah, Tommy's always being silly. I'm, yeah, I've been to me for years.

Well, I don't know. Apparently it's, I don't know. Because it's gendered. No, it's, it's, it's, makes them sad. Or it makes them have low self-worth. Oh. But silly is a good thing. Yeah.

I don't know. But I suppose in. I think we do think too much, I think we do think too much. I think we think way too much. But this is the thing with parenting. You can think about everything. I think in life you can think about everything though. Oh yeah.

But there's loads. There's loads to think about. Yeah. Think about like, oh God, yeah. Where are you supposed to find the peace? Do you know what I mean? Except you just can. But like, or you can't.

I don't know. Like, I don't know what the answer is. But like Joanna Lungley did that video and she said that's a problem with like young people. That's like they just think about themselves too much. I know. I was like iconic. I'm not sure you're right, but I love it. I love it anyway.

Isn't it annoying? Therapists would argue with you. Yes. It's annoying when a legend says something like that. You can love it. oh finally it's like she's saying what we're all thinking I'm like yeah but you're all wrong

like you're still an icon this is why we're all traumatised and in therapy so but they they grow up with the goose getting fat also I like oh I don't know I'm thinking too much I'm thinking too it's because I don't eat meat so I'm going to be an annoying person I don't like that

the goose getting fat to eat because it's going to die that's no good that's not good that's not cheerful so jolly I'm jolly about that and like there's something about the meat being the meat like and I like turkey's a turkey.

That's a confusing thing like you're eating a turkey like when you're eating beef you can kind of you can kid yourself. Because you're not eating cow. I imagine that helps that people can be like oh I'm eating beef like to make a kid eat a cow. Be like here eat a cow. They'll be like I don't eat a cow. Yeah. I know they do. And but I don't know. I'm in a funny because I don't know. But then turkey is turkey. Turkey is a turkey. We spend all year being like hey let's do a turkey jigsaw and look a picture of turkey. And now turkey. I feel like there's some bit distance because like I can't think what a turkey looks like in real life. It looks like a turkey.

Well, oh, thanks. It's got feathers. Pretty helpful. Fat. You know? Like round. Like fat for a bird. Like it's got like a big tummy.

And then it's got like a one long neck. Oh, turkey neck. That's why people say turkey neck. Awful. Yeah. Because it's got like the red, like a rooster thing. Oh, okay. Like a, like a, like a, what they called?

Jowls. Like little red jowls. Okay. Well, maybe the average person kind of conjure a picture of a. What are they, what's the little turkey noise? fantastic fay that was perfect and i felt like it's a really good time for a caveat because you promised me you'd tell me something weird about fay and i felt like that was weird so i want more weird fay is so weird wait until you hear this i love him so weird right when you're in the toilet

elliot said that someone had coughed on him on the tube and it was distressed him obviously no one likes being coughed on. Sorry about that. I didn't mean to. Faye followed up with, actually, I'm giving you the floor, Faye. I have a note on my phone of every time I've been ill since 2023. Oh, no. So not ever, but for the last, what, two, three years? Do you have health anxiety? Not really, but I write where I think I... It does sound like she does. I write where I think I got it from. For example, Monday 6th of November, 2023, sat next to someone snotty on the overground. This is like a burn book, but fair, I know.

Tuesday the 7th of November, woke up with mild sore throat, but fine. Thursday, the 9th of November, poorly weepy. Friday the 10th of November, peak weepy, snot, tired. And I've done that every time I've been ill since. Look at that. Why? Why? Because I...

We'll seek my revenge. I will seek my revenge. And it helps me predict when I'm going to be ill. And if that happens, if someone, it sneezes near me, I can think, right, I've got two days, get stuff done. I'm a freelancer. I can't be off sick. Can I ask you something? Yeah.

And you can't lie. How many times is Alex Lights written, name written on that notes document? Oh my God, am I on there? Am I on there? Al, I think you might be on there. I don't think you are. Oh my God. There is a few on here that say caught from Alex,

but as my boyfriend is Alex, I think they're my Alex and not you. But it could be, there's one that says Alex has cold too on here, but it could be you, it could be my Alex, I'm not sure. I have been ill quite a lot this year, haven't I? Since Tommy went to nursery. Yeah, you're in the burn book. Alex Rice is a skank or do not trust her. Don't go fucking near her.

Isn't that crazy? Do you think this was prompted by COVID? Because I'm self-employed, being ill affects me quite a lot. Because I don't have anyone who can cover for me. It does bother me being ill, yeah. That's tough actually. You kind of can't be ill. the same as you.

Well, yeah, that's true. I genuinely feel... Now, bear in mind, I was ill for a prolonged period of time, so I absolutely know this is not the case. Yeah. I also wholeheartedly believe that I can pray it away. I know I can't do that. I've got a big strong caveat.

But again, fuck it button is in reach of my forehead, so I'm just going to say all my intrusive thoughts today. I don't think anyone's listening to you, praying after what you said about God and Jesus. that's true you're not going to get a good response what I mean is I think I actually think it's a testament to like

sorry Elle women's strength I while Alex was like has been so not well for like a long period I felt like a couple of Fridays ago I woke in the morning

I was like I am unwell this morning and like I just don't feel good and it was like I took one look at him when I came downstairs and I literally felt every cell in my body just heal like I literally just felt them all go ask you what and I just got on with it

no you do you just have to get on with it it it is amazing though like I literally felt myself heal I was like we do not have time for this today we'll just push this one it's under the proverbial rug it'll all come crashing now I love the idea of like okay just having like a very minor illness like a flu and being on the couch for like a day I'm just watching TV doesn't that sound like heaven but it's just not possible

why don't you just sit there book out a day Good day. No, because it's like you've got the flu and you physically can't do anything. But the flu's awful. No, yeah. You don't want the flu. Check out phase notes. I bet the flu was on there. I bet it was bad. I bet it was bad. I bet it was bad. Flee's on there. I bet it was bad. I'm very reductive flu kills. I'm sorry. That's the other thing about the olden days. Like 1914. Curtains. Yeah. Wiped. Wiped. Yeah. Wiped. Yeah. It's insane. It's insincere. It's insin. It's insincere. It's insin. It's insane. That's the, a tissue, a tissue. No, that was actually, that was your one. And that was it? Yeah.

No, bubonic plague. Yeah. God. That, that as a child, yeah, the bubonic plague. Oh, it was, right? And that as a child gave me more terror. A tissue, a tissue, you all fall down. You all die.

Dead. Like, I know, I know, like, we just don't know we're born. I know we think of all these things. Like, but my heart breaks, when doing the inner child stuff, like, imagine being a child during the bubionic plague. you're watching everybody you know get these huge boils and then die and then they sing songs about it like it's the most traumatising thing that's ever happened and then come on kids bring the ring of roses like a tissue dead let's skip round in a circle they can't have been all right no one do one live

very long like they must have the most horrendous health anxiety this didn't have the words for it or a note sap yeah but i don't i wonder if they did though okay no you're definitely oh i'd say I'm like I'd say you would have done. If you're watching people around, you drop dead from boils. Yeah, no, you probably would. And from a cold. I bet they were really like, you know, germ. Like, oh, yeah, you wouldn't want anyone sneezing near you on the tube or there, or on the carriage.

Jeez, yeah. We just don't know we're born. We're literally like. I feel like we need new lullabies, don't we? Yeah. But then you just get in trouble for being woke if you make too many new ones. You know what I mean? Yeah.

I sing you are my sunshine to Tommy. Yeah. But this is the first verse. What's the second one? It's not problematic. It just feels horrible. It's like when I woke dear, you weren't beside me. Oh, you took my sunshine away.

Even the first verse is like, please don't take my sunshine away. It's like there's a bit there's a desperation to it. It feels a bit bleak. You know, it's like, please don't take my sunshine away. I'm like, I just want happiness. We listen to, but even the new ones, we listen to all this found, which is the new, it's frozen too. It's the nursery where I'm in Frozen too.

It's the one that is beautiful as a song and it's the one that their mum sings to them before the mom goes and dies and, you know, like ruins their life because it's incredibly traumatising for them to be orphaned at such a young age and look what happened to Elsie, you know what I mean?

She froze everything. But she, they used to sing the song and it's just basically talking about drowning. And Ollie loves it. We'll listen to it. Excellent. Fifty times today. Excellent.

And Alex tries to change the word drown. But she ain't stupid. She knows it. It's hectic. Tommy, I sing to Tommy as he goes. to sleep and normally he loves it right but when i had you know because i had a cough i don't know if you know but i've had a cough check phase notes up and my exactly and my my voice went all croaky and weird and then when it was like it's peak of croaky and weird and i was singing to him and i was halfway

through twinkle twinkle and he said mommy stop singing i feel that pain i was like i used to sing to raloo and then she'd say mommy phone so i's have to play it now no yeah got her youtube box felt felt less painful to ask for Yoto over phone I don't need you woman fair enough just phone

just shut up she didn't use the phone she just wanted there she just wanted anyone to sing it but me which is fair enough girl knows what she wants God what a dagger to the heart

Mommy stop I know I know I know this is what we do not anymore not with those pipes I know crusty croaky pipes

I could I could we could do some nursery rhymes I could, we could, I'll, I'll, I'll put my thinking cap on. You can sing them, thank you. Thank you. But all songs, well, no, I'm just thinking too much. I just, I want to think less and I don't think it's an option for any of us. I forgot my headphones today.

So I had to do an entire train journey. Thinking. Thinking. Can I ask something? I don't like that. So Joanna Lumley said we think too much. Yeah. Words to that effect.

But then it's like we've got like Aristotle and like. Yeah. Famous philosophers. Other ones. Yeah. who we revere as like the great thinkers. So it's like, right, so is it just that we are thinking like about women that we don't like, is that it?

Yeah, probably. Is it just like, what should we be thinking about? Yeah, I guess what the philosophers are thinking about is like the big existential life questions. Well, are we all? And I think what Joanna Lumley was referring to, I think, was like people being too introspective and like thinking too much about their past and about trauma, right? That's what she was saying.

Yeah, but within that, we're all spinning. Do you know what I mean? We're all doing the extradentials. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just from a different volume. And a lot of it is linked. Yeah, and you can't tell me that those philosophers weren't existentially spinning and centering themselves in that.

You can't tell me that came from a place of inner peace. Absolutely not. Because I don't imagine peaceful people have to do that. Because it's a torture genius, isn't it? Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Torture genius. Like, because if you're pretending.

with your surroundings you don't need to investigate them you don't need to to understand the reason for existence yeah yeah yeah like i think you don't have to fight you don't have to rationalize purpose yeah yeah like if you're satisfied with your current thing yeah it's like if you've got a good main course you're not thinking about pudding maybe i am but i like i hear you but you're one of life's great thinkers? Famously. Well, you think, I don't think we can be snobs about, and I think, I'm actually I put myself up there with this guys. I think, like, we can't be the proprietors of like what's acceptable to think about. I actually don't like it when people say like, oh, we think too much. Are you in your own head? I'm like, true. I am one of life's great thinkers. Yeah, who's to say

that you're thinking about the wrong things? That's not for us. There are very few female great thinkers. It's like Simone de Beauvoir and then that's. That's it. Exactly. Whereas in actual fact, women are great thinkers every minute of every day, getting everything done. Women are the best thinkers. Thank us for the windscreen wipers.

Yeah. Back us for headlights. Back us for windscreens and wing mirrors. And essential heating. Yeah. I think. Probably. I think.

Everything. Everything practical. Penicillin. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think you're saying any of this for confidence. No, I'm really not. No, it's penicillin.

It's, it's Marie Marie Curie, right? Miscillin. Mary Curie. What did she invent? What does she find? No, mind. Okay, never mind. What was Mary Curie? Cancer. I don't think she invented cancer. I don't think she'd be so popular.

What discovered, like, x-rays and radioactivity. Well done, Mary. See, that is the bottom line. Women have done a lot of incredible shit. But we also do the mundane thinking that gets the household fed. Do you know what I mean? My great thoughts Never mind that I keep my children sustained I keep the dog fed

I keep the lights on Do you know what I mean And then I turn them off again Because I'm thinking about the electricity bill And then I'm thinking What I'm gonna pack in the bag And where I'm gonna do this You know what I'm thinking

I'm thinking Constant thinking Yeah And who's to say I'm overdoing that Do you know what I mean And God forbid a girl wants to take a spiral What else am I going to do Fuck it, let's think

Let's think Let's overthink It actually It does make me frustrated that like so much Of like what we think about It's just deemed to be like vacuous or inane but then if you don't think enough then you're just called silly and stupid and

oh well you know you think about it think about it it's like well have thought about it you just you also need to think no but I I will say that I do wish I thought less I really do I really do I feel like my brain spins like a thousand miles an hour I feel like in your brain there's too much in there remember bay blades not good stuff but just my like stuff you remember when you used to like send a little like and it would just go ding and it would go like round and you put two in at one from and then they bash off each other. No. Like pinball machine?

No. Babeway, it's very specific. No, I have no idea. I imagine that's the inside of your. Pinball machine works for this analogy also. Yeah, that's what it feels like. And I don't like that. I really would like to...

I love thinking. Take like 10 miles per hour off of it. Yeah, I see that. Or just take like 10% out. Yeah, fine. Not the fluff. The important stuff, yeah. I know, I like thinking about really mundane things.

I love it. Like what? Oh, anything. Something really boring. Because I'm closing my eyes. I can think of really boring things. I'm thinking about the pile of stuff at the bottom of the stairs. I'm like, oh, no, no, don't know what's there?

That's miserable now. I wonder, where my house keys? I haven't seen them in ages. I'm going to think about that the whole way home. No, then I'll get annoyed because I don't know where they are. But then I can think about like last night, do you know how many satellites there are in the sky now? Don't actually, you don't want to know.

I don't want you to know. 2,000. I actually don't want you to know. Okay. Because you'll spin, you'll be there for weeks worrying about it. No, I actually, like, I don't know the exact amount, but there's about, and I can't remember the ratio either, but there are so many more than there were even 10 years ago. Oh, really?

Like, Elon's put like a billion up there. They're all going to be crashing into each other. There's not going to be space. And when they crash into each other, they're all going to come down and kill us. So don't think about that. I thought about that for about a month in July. And I was like, oh, okay, I'm going to interrupt this. Good.

Before we spin further. Can I just read a thread to you? Yeah. That is really lovely, and I thought it was good. Our threshold for irritation is absurdly low, but our threshold for joy has never been higher. We get upset by someone chewing too loud, yes, a red traffic light, yes, the Wi-Fi buffering. I made Alex go in the other room last night because here, Guyos are too loudly and I was trying to do my litter. I get it. I get you. These are nothing,

but we let them ruin our day. To feel joy, we need to finish a marathon. Publish a book. Right, well, why are you reading this out to us? Publish a book, Orlando Dream Job. If that's your standard for joy, you're literally choosing misery. Why don't we make feeling deeply happy about the little things cool again? Be happy about a random dog smile, heart shapes in your latte, the smell of bread. If you get irritated by the tiniest things, at least make sure you feel joy for them too. I did think that the hot on my latte was a nice touch this morning. Isn't that so lovely? Yeah, that is really nice. And I do love the smell of bread. To be honest, I don't think I'm the, like, I find joy in lots of

things. I love, I think, I think I do since having tummy. I think you do too. It's since having Tommy. I see the world differently. I enjoy ribbing you immensely, but I also do think you have lots of joy in love and happiness. I do think and I always feel funny about saying things like this for people who don't want kids or maybe can't have kids, but like he has changed so much for me and like I find so much joy in the little things. I never used to find joy in. Yeah. And like taking him somewhere, somewhere that I would have thought was insufferable before I had kids. it's like I don't know to it like a fairground or I don't know something like that like a playground whatever I love more than anything like I even love walking now I love going on walks you know me

I fucking hate walking I think when he catches up to you height wise you won't like it so much possibly possibly but now it's like it's so cute he toddles along in his little all in one and his wellies and he's like let me look I know it's nice to slow down like all we do now It's just going to get everyone's Christmas decorations. Like that's our activity. We just go out and we just look at everyone's decorations and then touch them, like outside shots and stuff. Oh, I love that too.

It's so fun. Yeah, so good. If I stopped outside every shop and touched the decorations, someone would call a security manager. Do you know what I mean? But when you do it with a toddler, it's like, yeah, crack on. Yeah, but that's been a problem for us because we've put our Christmas tree up and he just wants to pull down all the baubles and he pulled down the tree, which actually really scared me because I was like, yeah, yeah, no, that's a bad thing.

really bad thing. Yeah, yeah, super bad. I've never moved so fast in my life. Like, Tasmanian devil fast. You didn't even see me. I got to him so quick. But that's an annoying thing about toddlers. He doesn't understand the concept of like, leave it on the tree. But as fast as it irritates you, you've got to find the joy. I find the joy. I do. I find the joy in all the smash boppels. I love, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shatterproof baubles guys. Make sure they're shatterproof. Yeah. Yeah. I got all of a snow globe and she took it to a restaurant and she dropped flashed it. Oh yeah. It was so messy. Fuck, that is so messy. Because it's got water in. Yeah, it wasn't great. No one was happy. At least of all her. Mostly she was the saddest. But the waitress

actually looked a close second. It wasn't. No one was happy. I won't take a, I'm not going back. No. I think we're bad. I think we are banned. Okay, guys, well, look, Christmas is coming. The goose is getting fat. And if you've got a penny, put it in the old man's hat. And if you've got half a penny, that's fine too. But that's not so. Oh, but if you don't have a half penny, God bless you Is that it Is that how it good? That's it how it goes

Well done We'll see you Are you listening Oh that was nice I'm going to leave you to this one Um Mommy stop Guys we will see you on Monday

Thank you so much Love you loads Bye Bye