Should I Delete That? - Just Us: Running with boobs, protecting Blue Ivy and the indignity of diarrhoea

Episode Date: May 21, 2025

Guys, a miracle has happened - Al is happy with the weather today!On today’s episode we’re discussing Em’s food poisoning *situation*… which miraculously didn’t actually originate in the Light household. We chat about sports bras - and how much of a barrier boobs can be for women getting into exercise. And we discuss the internet’s reaction to Blue Ivy - why do people feel like they can speak about a 13-year-old child in the way they do online? And if you’re curious about the shared vibrator… we will never reveal our secrets. If you have any suggestions of people who we can talk to for our upcoming series looking at Trad Wives - you can email us on [e-mail] us on Instagram:@shouldideletethat@em_clarkson@alexlight_ldnShould I Delete That is produced by Faye LawrenceStudio Manager: Dex RoyVideo Editor: Celia GomezSocial Media Manager: Emma-Kirsty FraserMusic: Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello and welcome back to Should I Delete That? I'm like a flight. And I'm M Clarkson. Hello. Hello. How are we? I'm all right. Makeup looking very good today.

Thank you. Really good. I was saying that you've like, you've pulled your blusher up like towards the temples. Yeah. I really suits you. Thank you so much. I thought you were going to mention the shared vibrator. I was giving you a pause at the beginning.

I was, if we were going to pick up. on what we were talking about before we decided recording, but we can just leave it. I'm also going to bring that up, but feel free. It's okay. Now, we'll just leave them questioning everything. How are you? I am, I'm good.

I'm good. It's like beautiful temperature out. We had a horrible little heat wave, and now it's a beautiful little temperature, and I am like pig and shit. You know what, fine. You're not complaining, fine. I'm not complaining, fine, fine, fine, I am happy.

This is like a thriving for me. This is like the two weeks a year that you're not going to move. about the weather. Yeah, it's like optimum. Perfect. Yeah. It's like weather outside. Delighted. The reviews are in. Right, I have something bad to tell you. I feel like you got a lot to talk to me about. So I think I've got food poisoning, right? Yeah. Okay. So there's that. Now, I, this has been a bad week. Now, okay, so basically, on Wednesday, last Wednesday, I was like, don't feel great. Tommy, it doesn't feel great. But it didn't feel like. But it didn't feel like terrible. It just didn't feel great.

And I was like, maybe it's my pelvic floor. You know, like I've just had a baby. Maybe I'm getting my period back. Like, I was cramping. So I was like, could be a modicum of things. Don't mean modicum. Plethora. Anyway, could have been a thing.

Had a hot water bottle. I was like, I don't feel great. Thursday. Still didn't feel great, but it was very, very hot. So I was like, I probably, it's probably the heat. Because then I got a bit of upset tummy. I was like, it'll be the heat. I'll be dehydrated.

I went for a little run. I'll be dehydrated. Friday, same again. I thought, well, this is just bizarre. but whatever Saturday oh my god it's a long time coming

honestly it gets worse Saturday Alex goes down I'm like the fuck right so my first thing is to blame you I was like

right well what's Alex like given me because that woman is a host of germs I'm a petri dish that's exactly what I said I said to boy Alex I was like

I was no doubt in my mind where this has gone from so I was like we saw her on Tuesday and it's without a shadow doubt. So it obviously blamed you. Cancelled our plans on Sunday because by that point,

Alex was very ill, fevery, upset tummy, the works. By Sunday, I thought I was okay. I was like, no, I think I'm riding it out. Like, I don't know what this has been, but it's fine. The girls were fine, which was the suspicious bit. Because I was like, it was a virus. Obviously, they'd get it, right? Sunday, we went for a walk.

I was walking around the common. And I thought to myself, I'd have a little cup of coffee. I had a cup. I nearly fucking shat myself. it was you know when you start sweating oh no like the first sip and then i got the cold sweats and i was like i'm going to be myself and i'm like don't and i was like you all good idea but also can't help it both the babies were asleep i was like fucking run so we were like waddling home and then the babies both woke up so it was like oh no um and i was like i didn't want to do

and he said you're going to have to put in the bushes i was like i'm going to have to put in the bushes it was a really i didn't poo in the bushes oh i thought you were going to thank god God, like the instincts, like when the babies cry, it was like everything, you know, everything in you pauses, it was like, no, I'll just, whatever. And that gave me enough time to scoop with the babies. Swooped by the inside. And I like got home, but it was very, very bad. And then on Sunday night, it was fever.

It's been a lot. Anyway, we last night. Can confirm, not from. Not from you. Not from me. Who knew? I know. I had to.

Miraciously. We had to get full investigative yesterday because I was like, this is actually. silly now. Like we've been able for so long, what could it be? We traced it back to the last meal we ate together, which tragically, as parents of two was like six days prior. We're like, oh yeah, we did that. Oh, was it? Dodgy prawn. Oh, no, God, no, that would have killed Alex's alleged to shellfish. It was the pokey balls we always get. I know. And my mum said we should tell the place. Rice gives you like the worst kind of food poisoning. Well, that's what I thought if you reheated it. If you reheat it, also, if you leave it out,

for too long it can be really dangerous it grows this like this like horrendous bacteria someone recently died a student tell me more he had I think I think one of his housemates probably this news fact-checking actually one of his housemates had had a Chinese like I think like the day prior or maybe two days prior had left the Chinese out on the counter yeah he he had reheated this rice ate it died okay I feel like you could have waited for my recovery before telling me this story. I feel like you didn't, I feel like it would have been more sudden than this. You think I would have died. I think you would have already died. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I think you could be fine. But right. You got to be so careful. I don't even know what this was. But I am personally, I have not been okay. It's actually been quite triggering because I've also been feeling nauseous, which I could really have done without. But it's been a big week for me. I've been so bloated. It's been painful. I've been sweating. Anything to do with the stomach. That's what I say. Like I'll take a cough. I'll take the flu. I'll take, I don't know, whatever else there is. You just don't want that much else. I'll just take a cough or a flip over anything to do with sickness bugs.

They are literally the worst things. They're normally short-lived though. I'm like, I can get this in and out. Do you know what I mean? I'll just vomit my way through it. But not like when it's going on for a week. I'm like, how long is a person supposed to shit themselves for? I hate it.

I was ready to go to the doctor. I don't really mind the diarrhea part. It's just a vomiting for me that. Oh, no, it's the indignity of diarrhea for me. I cannot stand it. There's just no, like, dignity. You know, it's like, oh, God. I just, I'm humble. I'm humble.

Apparently, also, again, needs fact-checking, but apparently when you have a sickness bug, it's like the best detox for your, like, colon and your digestion. I don't know if that's true, actually. That sounds like toxic diet culture. Yeah, that sounds like... I always remember when I was, like, GP, when I was, like, young, saying that's my mum.

I don't know if that's true. It will, that will just have been some quack diet. It stayed with me, but... I realized that as I was walking through the common, this should probably be my awkward, but I did say, I was saying that child, after having had diarrhea for like five days. I was like, I've practically, I said it really loudly.

I was like, I've practically had colonic irrigation and this mountain was just eating this big sandwich and he just looked at me. I was like, I'm sorry. I stand by what I'm like, yes. I've heard what I've had. So that's been a big week for me. That's been a big week for you.

And the household in general. I, my good. Oh, good. You've got a good. I do. Don't sound so shocked. I bring joy and love. light to this establishment.

Oh, in name only. That was good, well done. Thank you very much. I... See? The ray of sunshine that I am. As you breathe, there's the cloud just like beckoned over your head.

You're like, I mean, more for you then for hanging out with me. If I'm that miserable, if I'm that much of... You're miserable in a fun way. And it's sort of just like, oh, you know, oh. Well, that's all right then.

I'll take that as a compliment then. Yeah. My good. Okay. Is that Faye told us to look at the comments on Spotify after our episode two Thursdays ago where we talked about... Well, we begged.

Where we begged for reviews and for reviews and comments and ratings. And honestly, it was like, it was the biggest pick-me-up there were like multiple comments and multiple new reviews and people are so nice and I was like I really wish I could I could just like pop in there and just say thank you to you can't obviously with their review but you can say it now but it's also proof that like this validation that we seek it is as simple as asking for it like it still feels the same like however the compliment

comes it still feels good even if we're on our hands and he's begging you for a compliment And Willick Cartons were still happy with it. There was a really nice one as well. But, okay, I did make the mistake, a little bit of a mistake in going back to, like, older reviews. I was sitting next to you. And I went, yesterday, you went, oh, I don't know how to read the podcast reviews. And I went, don't. Just don't.

Just don't. And then you went, oh, okay. And then you went, yeah, but how do you? And I was like, all, I'll show you. And then you looked at the top 10. And I was like, look at these are stunning. These all came from last Thursday. Look at those.

And let's leave it. Let's leave it. And you were like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know you couldn't leave it. to pick the scat. And I just watched you, like, sing low and low to your chair. I was like, why have you done this? And you were like, I don't know. I mean, they were fine. They were fine. I mean, some, so rude. And I just do think, like, why did people do that? Whatever. It's your progress. It's your prerogative. It's your prerogative. Someone did write that,

which did make me laugh that our scripted, one of our scripted in our body image series because it was scripted. This is why it has to be scripted. to her guys scriptive if we don't write it down word for word we didn't got a chance I don't think my brain works

that well I think it's because I consume too much on social media anyway it's just too much going round I've actually lost my

one of the one of the comments the body image series it was scripted they said it sounded like year three people reading out a school

presentation which did make me laugh very rude but did make me laugh but I loved that someone replied not reply but someone left a comment on Spotify was like can we give them a break their writers like they wrote this series like give them a break let them breathe we're writers not actors which we do appreciate because we are that was such a nice call I sent it to you straight away and it's so true but it's also like it is worth remembering that like clearly we're not all about with our words like we are writers that's the point that's how we got into it that's what we

joy doing yeah yeah um to just as you were saying that's where we're most comfortable yeah like I love this I love podcasting but like we're best at what I've done all you know a lot of my life is like yeah it's writing and if you want to make a good point that if you want us to perform well this is how we do you know what I mean yeah other people will perform considerably better in all areas but the one area that this like the best we are is there and if you don't like this at our best you're going to hate us at our worst because we've got some great series planned new series and I'm worried that I'm going to be really self-conscious I have

honestly fuck them I have entered such an era recently where I'm just like don't like it don't look at it having said that I am getting increasingly crossed by the time this comes out I might have made a reel about it depending on if I've got time and how I rate I get between now and then yes so blue ivy oh Beyonce's baby girl yeah not where I thought you were going but yes okay where did you think I was going sports bra oh I can talk about that too I am going to do a real about that. I'm blue out and coming back for you, babe. You should.

Yeah, I want to expand on this, actually, because I was going to know. Sports bar or Blue Ivy? I'll do sports bra first. Okay. Then we'll go to Blue Ivy. Okay. So I went for a run a few days ago. Yeah.

And I got a message from a woman. No, I got a few messages. And it happens every time. But I was really upset with this one specific one. It's like, girl, you're so inspiring, but you need to sort out your sports bra. Or like, you need to get a better sports bra or whatever. And I was like, you know what? Get fucked.

And I was like, I was. I'm really proud of myself for speaking up about it. Me too. But I'm just going to say it for the avoidance of doubt. Short of binding my chest, there is no way on earth that I can run with boobs this big and expect them not to move. It's impossible. But you shouldn't even have to say that though.

No. You shouldn't even have to say that. I do understand that with a platform, like, and particularly like I work with a sports brand, you do want to promote safe exercise. And I do think bad sports bras are not great for women because it's a really big. barrier. If you don't have adequate support, it is a barrier and it's uncomfortable and it stops you running. The difficult thing is, is the fear, like, the fear of judgment is as bigger barrier as anything else getting into sports. And all I felt was really judged and I felt

that that's all people saw when they're looking at me. Super self-conscious. Super self-conscious. Everyone's looking at me just being like, oh, look at her boobs. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at how the boo. And it's like, I've, what it's worth, I did not see boob in that. I was just look at your face and what you wrote. That was it. But it's such a frustrating thing that it's like already women have to navigate the world in such a specific way. Women with big boobs have to navigate the world in another way. As a runner, boobs have always been an issue for me because you can't just go for a run. Like you have to strap them down. But I'm like I'm wearing G cup bras. Like I've got it like

it's a lot and it's hard to fucking run with them as it is and a breastfeeding. And if I do it too tightly, I get my stitis and I get blocked ducks, which I get all the time anyway. Do a real. We need to hear more of this because it's, because it's, because it's, Because if you have to put a butt after your compliment, which this girl did, your own inspiration. But I get at it all the time. Then I get it all, I get it all the time. I mean, that's how, unfortunately, that's how people live on.

So navigate social media. I did get a really nice message from a woman who is a professional bra fitter. And she's like, you look fine, babe. If you're comfortable, if you're not chafing, you're fine. If you don't have chafing, so this is a PSA for anyone. It's also like your business and only your business. 100%. It just, I don't know.

It just upset me because it is. But then I heard from lovely briny and we are going to do a real. So it's either out or it will be coming out about this because she gets those comments all the time and she's obviously got really, really big boobs. And it's just like it's, we have enough barriers getting us into exercise. We are sexualized and objectified by men all the time. Can we not do it to each other as well? It's just like, what do you want me to do to chop them off?

Because I will. I know. But I've got to finish feeding my kids with them first. What we're supposed to do these like huge things that's just sitting sitting on top of us. Yeah, Alex called them cantalopes. other day. That's, I know. It was the plural of the word that got me more than anything. Well, I was talking about how hard it was to go running. Oh no, because that's like, it could have been half on each side. You know, when you cut them in half and you, I thought,

no, that's, I think that's weird to say you've got, two full melons. Of a big cantaloupe. Yeah, it was a lot. He was like, he was like, yeah, babe, of course running. Because my back hurt. He's like, of course it does. You're carrying around two cantaloupes. I was like, for fuck's sake. If the diarrhea didn't strip me of the dignity, that will. Do you know what's really funny is I've still got, like, I mean, you know, we all know how much work I've done on my body image. I don't shut up about it. I am definitely at a place where I am such, like, at peace with my body.

I just, it's just kind of become a neutral thing. It's like, more or less, which is really nice. But my boobs, I think I'll always have a thing with them. You've got great boobs, though. You showed everyone the other day, do you remember? I did. I did. I showed my post-reduction, my post-reduction boobs.

but I but they're they're big and they're bigger than they were then they've grown since then and I still long for smaller boobs yeah yeah would you have another reduction probably not no no probably not god I will I haven't had one yet though I'm gonna have one I will say it was like one of the best things I ever did like at the time but I don't know about now I don't know interesting food for thought I think I think it's like I'm I'm such a scaredy cat now I've got Tommy. I'm such a scared cat with everything. Oh, in case you die?

No. I just think like anything like not necessarily like that. Maybe this will like ease as like the older he gets and the more I like ease into motherhood. Maybe that stuff will sort of like dissipate a bit. But I'm such a scary cat now I've got him. Is it in case you die? A little bit. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm like, I need to take vittians for Tommy. It's that line in clueless and it took me such a long time as an adult to understand it. When Cher is like introducing her life and she comes down the stairs, she's like, this is my mom. Wasn't she a Betty? She died in a freak liposuction accident. And I never got that.

I always assumed that was a type of car or something. I was like, oh. And then as I listen to it as an adult. I was like, lol. It's like Kanye West's mom. She died in a plastic surgery. Oh God, that'll be me. Getting my boobs off.

I'm just like, how to explain to all her and something like, where's she gone? It is obviously, it's like mostly safe now. She was sick of carrying the cantalopes around. And that was sea. But it's a really big operation and breast reduction. And I didn't know what I was in for last time. When I first did it, I specifically told the surgeon, like, don't tell me what it is because I knew it was like gruesome.

I just didn't want to know. So I didn't know. And then afterwards I was like, ooh, that's a lot. Yeah. Because you do look a bit like Frankenstein for a while. You know what? I've broken jaw and two cesarians later. Like, fucking come at me.

You'll be easy. Yeah, it's so scarring. It's very, it's extensive. I could do with some peace. but also it's just so hard, you know? And I, oh, God, last time we talked about this, we actually got quite a lot of shit people saying, like, oh, it wasn't very empowering.

I think people are upset that we aren't more empowered about having big boobs. I'm not not. I'm just, I just would rather not have them. Well, yeah, I'm sorry that people feel like that, but it's the truth. Also, like, listen to the objectification. You know, people with big boobs know that they're objectified their whole lives anyway.

As teenagers, it's complicated. You've weird relationships. We did this episode with Jackie, didn't we, about big boobs years ago. And that was, yeah, which if you, if you haven't listened to it, go back and find it because that was, we've said all about then. There's some stuff to unpick. Like the minute I have a bit of cleavage showing,

I can't bear it. I'm like, got to cover it up, I can't. And I don't know, I don't really know why. I don't really know why, but I just,

clearly I'm not righted with that. Like I always, yeah, no, but I always like, I was hunched my back as well. And I, like,

growing up, which is why I've got shit posture now because to like try and hide them. So yeah, so yeah, so yeah, sorry guys that we're not like, that we don't love them.

true beacons of body positivity but it's the truth it's like yeah i don't i mean i don't mind them i just on a practical level i don't mind them like they you know they're good in some outfits i'll give them that they're good in this outfit so i never give them a chance to shine that you're holding the back that's what you're doing see maybe it's time maybe we just got a did you know what you're 30th yeah i don't if you remember what i was wearing it's kind of like a milk maidy style black dress so i didn't know you're going to say made it's kind of it's milk oh well that i want to talk about as well sorry too many things no okay fine let's finish on the you got them out you did get them out because we talked about and actually it was that night and

Dave was like that kind of dress suits you so much I don't know why you don't like wear stuff like Dave you'll purve okay so I know dirty bastard so uh okay okay god we are going around the houses aren't we okay but really quickly watched the talk last night it was this girl being like I don't know what I'm wearing for summer guys please help me what we're wearing this summer I've got boobs, I've got a bum, but I don't necessarily have like an hourglass shape, I don't have a waist, anyway, whatever. And I was reading the comments. And so many people said milkmaid dress, right? I don't think anything of it. I was just like, oh cool, milk wear dress, yeah, cool. And then someone wrote, ignore the milk made dress comments. I really believe that they're just bots batting

for conservative values via clothing posts. Go with high-wasted trousers. And then someone like contested this and he said, I'm not knocking milk-made dresses, but there's a new thing going around at the moment where bots and trials are trying to promote trad culture via clothing post as a way to push the FYP pages to politically conservative posts. Yep. But this is what we talked about this. That blew my mind. Yesterday, Alan and I talked about this yesterday when we met out for lunch about we are doing

this Tradwife series. I'm actually putting this call out because I've started writing it mostly in my brain, but I'm going to put it to paper. It's going to be a script. You're going to hate it. I want to talk to, if any, of you know anyone, and I'll put it on Instagram too, a call out, but we want to talk to a, anyone sort of fashion, anyone educated in fashion, like fashion forecasting, fashion trends,

anyone who's got a degree in that area would be amazing to talk to, please. We want to talk to a sociology, anthropologist, I can't remember the exact word, but any sort of anthropology sociology type who's got any specialist in this, and then obviously we want to talk to a tradwife. or anyone who was sort of brought up in that culture who was... Yeah, come away from it. Anyone with any experience in this,

this is something that we are currently working on. Yeah, please send us suggestions to Should I Delete ThatPod at gmail.com. Or hit us up on Instagram to either of our accounts or the Should I Delete that Instagram? Please. Yeah, that'd be great. So we'll get onto that.

I'm really looking forward to doing that because that's infiltrating everywhere. It's disgusting. Okay, I need to talk to you about Blue Ivy. Please. Beyonce's daughter, she's 13. She is my entire algorithm right now. Like, it's all I see when I go on TikTok is her dancing.

She's fantastic. She's a wonder. She's unbelievable. I swear that dance, you know, that she did during the tour. Yeah. It was on my algorithm, like, day in, day out. I swear, I know it off my heart in my head. In my head.

I was just in my head. Let me see. She was so good. She's ridiculous. She's amazing. I am so upset. with the comments. Why?

I would, I... I thought people loved her. But I keep thinking about, the conversation we keep on me now about like children influences, parents exploiting their kids, putting kids online, how dangerous it is for child stars.

And we talk about all of this in the context of the masses being terrible. It's like, the world is a dangerous place. Stop putting kids out into the world because the world's a terrible place. That is like, that is the common consensus.

That's all anyone says. Yeah. Without the, like, tiniest bit of self-awareness, they are the terrible, we are the terrible people. These comments are all terrible. And they don't just, like, they're not this one dangerous patch. It's not like, oh, avoid the black ice over there. It's like, the whole comment section is deranged.

And it's like, gosh, she's 13. What do they say? What do they say about her? Criticising her dancing. It's as much in the fact that it's all jokes. but it's like she gave us nothing like there's so many comments we'll do this like everyone just like

thinks they're so fucking funny like go on girl give us nothing yeah exactly and then doing their like little emojis little girly pop emojis and it's like don't be a fucking bitch and she's 13

do you know what they will lean back on is like she's Beyonce's daughter she's blue ivy she lives like like a privileged life that is inaccessible for everyone else in the world and does that make it

absolutely not but like I want these people to sit with themselves Yeah. Be like, yeah, but do you feel good for doing that for a 13 year old though? Yeah. Like, do you? Like, are you okay in yourself? No.

That there's a, that you want to do this to a kid. We shouldn't even have to contest that point of like, oh, well, she's so privileged. But like, if you think, but like, let's just, just like human mate. If you think about it, like, is she really, yes, she's privileged in like a material sense, but like, would you really want your child to be brought up like that? Would you want that for yourself to be brought up like that, to be in that, to experience that level of fame? Like, I don't necessarily think that's a nice,

and when we see it time and time again, like child stars, there's like the curse of the child star, but it's like, it's very real. It's because it's difficult to be famous. No one was going to let this child live a normal life. She was never going to be able to go and work anywhere normally. No. And people, I don't think they appreciate that, that like, yeah, okay, they've got a privileged childhood, but they have a whole life to live.

And, okay, let's do this on a realistic level, right? Let's say that they could go, look, I have this on a lesser scale, a tiny, tiny, tiny scale. I don't know if you're... My teachers used to, I had an English teacher that would let everybody else read one journalist's work and would target me specifically to read my own dad's articles. Like, I was so othered all the time by the fucking teachers. Like, never mind the kids. The teachers do it. And that's on such a small scale.

But they'd do it all the time. Teachers would do it to me. God, I feel anxious even thinking about it. Teachers would do it more than anything. They'd make jokes. They'd think they're so funny. They'd all make jokes all the time. So I'd hope that no one would know and I'd want no one to know.

And then the bloody teacher would tell the whole class. Like, it was always... That's so bad. I imagined it would be kids. I mean, the kids were bad. The kids were bad. I would walk into parties and they'd play the Top Gear theme tune. I just I just I it was horrible I'd cry all the time

that's so mean and that was nothing I've got a British motoring journalist for a dad like imagine there's nowhere those kids will be able to go they can't go to normal school they can't go to normal parties and if you don't have normal school sorry if you don't have normal school and you don't have normal education you can't go and get a normal job you can't do it

so that and then their whole twenties their bosses their peers whatever they'll find out they'll sell stories about them they'll want to befriend them for the wrong reasons, which happened to me all the time. Like, they'll be used and used and used until a point when their parents aren't relevant anymore when they may be 30 or 40 and they've got no education and no experience.

Yeah. They can't live normal lives. And yes, like they're still very privileged within that. But like they've got the whole world. But is it a privilege in like the real human sense? I couldn't think of it anything worse than my kids. But you're so right. Like how could she ever live any kind?

I mean, I feel like even if you're like, Beyonce's gynaecologist, you can't live in normal life. Like, everyone's going to want to know. Anything related to Beyonce, she's like one of the most famous people in the entire world. Never mind her daughter. Yeah, that's a really, really good point. I've actually never taken it that far, but it's true. I was thinking about the Obama's daughters because they're adults now and it's like, whatever job they go and do, they'll have the whole lives going, well, you didn't really

earn it, did you? Your dad will have got you there, so your mom will have got you this. Your dad will have got you this. And it's like, yeah, you're dealing with kids now who are going to become adults and it's like I don't know I actually this is um I was watching something about Brooklyn Beckham again on TikTok yeah the uh yesterday he did he was reading out mean tweets I saw that too yeah um I don't know if I just read it I read it all wrong but I saw him as like really hurting and that yeah me too did you because people were like oh my God he's taking it like so well he's like he's laughing it off and stuff but I could I felt like I could see his pain And interestingly, all the comments were like, oh, this has made me like him more.

And I was like, yeah, that's because you can see that you've done it. Oh, do you think? You've just, you've gotten to him. You've got to him. Yeah. What chance do they do? It was basically, sorry, for context, guys, it was basically him reading out a bunch of tweets about him being a nepo baby.

Yeah. But it's not that he's not, and just mocking him. It's not that he's, you, people take it too far. It's like, well, you're useless to everything. You're a shit photographer and you're a shit chef and you're a shit this and you're whatever. Yeah. It's just like, that is going to get to a person.

And you're selling hot sauce, how pathetic? Yeah. I said, well, what else is he going to do? I know. I know. And it's just, I don't know why we do it. Like, I don't know why we do it because they're children. And, like, that's the thing with the Blue Ivy thing.

It's like, I don't care that she's got all, like, I don't care. I wouldn't choose this for my own kids for anything. And all those comments, it's way too much noise. Like, I could, I went viral accidentally on TikTok one time. at 29 years old and it was the single most anxiety and choosing things ever happened to me this is the talking about you won't want this for your kids

this is like do you remember I mean this is a long time ago on the podcast we were talking about this and I was saying it sounds so sad but I was saying that I want like an an unremarkable life for Tommy and then like you know when people say like I want my son to be a footballer

or to be like this athlete or to be a pop star or whatever I'm like I do not want that for him at all I don't want any level of like public recognition or I mean if it doesn't mean that you can't have a remarkable life and not be without being famous I don't mean that um I just I don't know I just think you want to him smaller it's because it's not safe the world is just not safe and we truly are so yeah I remember when I mean again sorry make it all about me and I've said this before but like you know when I was a teenager and I'd read those comments about me

and like I'm 30 like I haven't let them go I don't let them go and it was small the scale and I remember thinking then like it won't be like this forever we won't be like this it's so much worse if Arlo

or Zanthi one day when they were old and I've turned around to you and be like I want to be famous like well go on I mean of course you'd let them of course you would but you have to

and you just have to be there with the biggest arms open to help because it's horrible would it be gutting for them to be gutting for them to to like try and pursue something like that. No.

No, I don't think so because it's their dreams. But I just know. And they'd be okay because we're okay. And like you get a thick skin and you do get used to it. But it's not, I don't imagine it's a nice thing for parents to have to watch their children to get used to. I'd be gutted. Oh my God. I'd be gutted.

I would fight. If I saw one, why do you? I can't put my kid. No child. No one, nowhere near the internet. I would have to come to your house and physically fight you with my. fist. Oh my God.

Like, let's fucking go. Like, I, like, if I would be the busiest women in the world, I would be doorstepping.

I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, a politician can't be like, and you punch to the face. And you punch to the face. I was going to say like, slapping out lawsuits,

be all like, no, just punchers. Physical, I would come to physical blows. I would lose my, I would lose my, I would lose my, I would lose my life.

I would lose my shit. But I, I just want to, I want to shake people. I want to shake the, I mean, again, Like the teachers that did it to me, I'm like, I remember there was one, my, I can't believe the teachers did it to you. My English teacher that used to do it to me. And I remember, I had to look at his shoes. And he always had stupid little shoes. And I always had to look at his shoes and be like, well, I hate his shoes. It was like the only thing I could like make myself feel better about myself. I was like, well, you're a tragic little man with tragic little shoes that you're picking on a child. That was the only thing. I was, I remember.

I remember thinking just being like, yeah, well. So he would be like, so you've got to read this. Yeah, he'd, I remember he gave everyone else Bill Bryson and then he gave me my dad's. And he made a really big thing about it. That's so bad. It's just so bad. But he was a mean man.

I don't think he's, they. Yeah, of course you do. But I don't think he liked me. I don't know, but I remember he, when I got my, I think he thought he was being funny. But I remember doing, this is so tragic. Take me to therapy. Oh God, go on.

You know, I've got this big thing about. being stupid because I was diagnosed with dyslexia really late. And I did really well in my English GCC, which was a big surprise. I got 98%. We were all surprised. Yeah, I did really well in English. And I remember going back in and saying it to him because he'd been my GCC teacher and he said, that was a fluke. And he said it in front of everyone. What, I can't even say what I want to say about that man. I know. My confidence is like genuinely my confidence in that. I know he was really, yeah, it wasn't very nice. That's a horrible, horrible man.

I know, and I remember a comic, and I was so gassed all summer. I was like, I'm so much smarter than they all thought. And I was sad, my first lesson bag, and I was like, never mind. Pick a shit after all. I'm not sure enough, fail my A-level. Well, of course you did. If someone said, if it was so nice, he was so, oh, you're crying. You could cry.

Yeah. He feels so stupid. Oh, oh God, see, when I sent my kids to school, I'm literally going to be like, if they're teachers doing this then, I'm going to be like, how could any exam, how can any exam be a fluke? That's just not a thing. I mean, to be fair, I did then fail my A level, so there's something in it, but I don't know. Yeah, well, yeah, because he, like, punched you down.

Yeah, he did, he did wear me down over the years. But he had stupid little shoes and that's what I hold on to. It can't be a fluke. It can't be a fluke. Thank you. Yeah, fuck that. Yeah. You're very clever.

You're not stupid at all. You will tell that to Mr. B. We've bleeped his name after. Oh, God, it's so tragic. I really need to deal with that. Horror. You're why I'm still so insecure about quizzes. I'm really carrying holes and stuff here.

I'm insecure about quizzes, but just because I don't know any answers to anything. I've got terrible memory, terrible knowledge. I love quizzes, but I only let Alex quiz me quietly in the car because I haven't got the confidence to do them publicly anymore. You've been really good at quizzes. You retain information. really well. Yeah, no, I know, but I'm too scared to sound stupid.

I need a therapist. It's so bad. But yeah, so obviously I'm projecting my own shit to the blue ivy situation, but I do just, I just want to be annoyed with people. You can empathise with her. I mean, not really. But like I just, no, I'm more curious and cross with grown adults teasing, mocking, belittling children.

That's what gets me, because that's all that it is. You take away everything. Take away everything. You've got a grown human being a little. twat to a tiny person and bad. Well it goes back to the Jojo Siwa as well like technically not a child. But

she was relentlessly mocked and cyber bullied yeah bullied online for so long and like I think there's been she did I haven't listened to the podcast but she's after coming out of the Celebrity Big Brother How she did a podcast with Nick Vital and she's talked about how

she was able to like take off her mask like metaphorsically and literally you know because she wears like these rhinestones yeah like these kiss style like costume like face paint stuff and she was like she was able to take off that mask and like she was like pleasantly surprised that people liked her

without the mask or she I just like fuck it's so sad like we've been so mean to you we've been so mean to adults have just been so mean I just it needs examining like it we need like I don't think, no, I don't think this is going to pass as law, but I think it might be nice for when you turn 18,

you have to have some sort of like, maybe 25, you have to have some sort of like morality exam. And you're just not allowed past if you can't prove that you're going to have some emotional maturity. Because if you're having to project your shit onto children, then I don't think you should be allowed to operate as an adult. But I actually think that's something that would have to, like, recur. You'd have to take the exam.

But like every six months. Has your inner child popped up and caused an issue for you? Yeah. Back a level. I think people get like heard mentality. They get swept up in social media. They get swept up in the nasty comments. Yeah.

I think it's something that has to be like an ongoing thing. We need to monitor them. I actually think better. It's sad, but like should be what Instagram talked about doing years ago and it never happened was every single account that you Instagram, social media account that you have is linked to an official passport or an official driving license. I can't wait for that day. And you are. There's some kind of. of footprint like you're you're held responsible yeah because you're

accounting for your actions online you need to know if the person you're marrying is taking the piss out of a 12 year old like I would that's the sort of thing you need to know like god Dave's not on social media so I don't have to worry about that's what you think yeah Dave's all the one in the blue ivy comments girl you gave us nothing he's probably got an account called like at not Dave he's just like the trolling people excellent We've got to go We've got to wrap this up

Yeah so I've really brought in my own My own sensitivities into the episode Can't wait for the real Both real sports bra and blue Ivy They may be here by now They're probably here by now Yeah Thank you so much for everyone

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