Should I Delete That? - Just Us: This should stay private

Episode Date: April 9, 2025

Brace yourselves…. we’ve got an awkward episode for you today. Em and Alex start us off by sharing some awkward accidental online encounters and tales of naked hilarity… then we dive into your awkwards. Prepare to have sticky toffee pudding ruined for you for the rest of your life…We also ask a question about parody videos - Em Rata blocked Celeste Barber after she posted parodies of her online. Should people who post online be prepared to be parodied? And why do we feel like it’s okay to make fun of beautiful people online? Do you have an awkward tale for us? We wanna hear it! Email us on [e-mail] us on Instagram:@shouldideletethat@em_clarkson@alexlight_ldnShould I Delete That is produced by Faye LawrenceStudio Manager: Dex RoyVideo Editor: Celia GomezSocial Media Manager: Emma-Kirsty FraserMusic: Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello, I'm going to actually to do that. Am I sight? Who are you? And I'm M Clarkson. That was deep. Who are? It did come up very deep. I started doing this thing with Arlo where I go,

Hello. She loves it. Does she? She thinks it's really funny. So I have to pretend to be her food. I'm like, I'm the broccoli. It's me. It's really bad.

I look like an absolute psycho. Who gave that woman a child? That's funny. It's really bad. She tries to do it back again. I'm like, this is deranged. We sound, yeah. This is an awkward episode.

Yeah, well, I've got an awkward to kick. Well, we've got some listener awkwards, but I thought I'd lube us up. Go on. I'd make everyone feel a little bit better about themselves by giving you my own awkward. A couple of weeks ago now, I accidentally liked to troll comment

on one of Olivia Atwood's reels. Oh my God. It was really bad. Wait, how did you find out you done it? Because I did it immediately. I saw it immediately. I was scrolling. And now on Instagram, you can double click them and it's liked.

Like, you don't have to click the little heart. You just double tap and it's light. Yeah. And I was scrolling and it was like, it was a little bit darker and it had the little red heart. I was like the fuck I don't remember what the comment was but I just died inside I was like I'm because what for me personally when somebody leaves a shitty comment on my videos or pictures yeah I ignore them when people like that shitty comment I block all of them

because I think you fucking cowards you couldn't even say this you had to hide behind someone I thought a loser you're just like co-signing it on the back tragic yeah so I'll block you immediately. So I was like, well, Olivia out was, if she's got my school before, which she ought to, I deserve to be blocked for liking a comment like that,

but I had to just un-like it and go on with my day, feeling a deep sense of shame. You couldn't, yeah, I'd probably like, message her and be like, I'm so sorry, I didn't mean to like that one. She probably wouldn't have seen it.

Yeah, she'd like, what the part? She wouldn't have seen it. Who are you? I don't care. But, um, mortifying. Mortifying. Mortifying. I did something similar.

Yes, you did. You had a shock. I had such a shocker. My favorite was that we got over the original shocker that you had. Yeah. And then we realized that you'd had additional shockers underneath it. Like slightly less shocking, but still quite shockery. I did.

I don't want to blame everything on Tommy, but it is the baby having the phone, isn't it? It's not great. It's you looking at stuff and then they like swipe in and try, and sometimes you lose control. You liked a very controversial video. I liked a controversial video and one that I did not agree with. And I was like, oh. and then another creator won't name her but like wrote in her stories

oh two creators that I follow have liked this and I've got you know I've unfollowed them like I can't believe these are their beliefs and I just looked in DMs and someone was like I can't believe you like this I've been talking to insert creator's name about it we just can't believe you thought you're better than this

yeah and I was like what are you talking about I was like what are you talking about God I started getting to everything Has he probably watched the video? She's done something unhinged. I was like, I really like Alex, but if you could just have a little word with her and tell her that it's not cool

that she's liked this video. Bad day. But the worst thing was, was that you unliked it, we thought we'd got away from it, and then I was reading the comments, and then you'd written... Yes, someone had written a big comment

being like, like anti the original video. Yeah, a good comment, and you'd reply to their comment just saying this is you met you you sent me in like just checking that you know that you wrote this I was like what what this is what good bad shocking it was a bad day oh it was such a bad day nothing nothing proves the precarious nature of a woman's reputation quite like an accidental Instagram like right you were on you were nearly curtains I was nearly doing this solo. Isn't it crazy? Just from liking a video, like by association, it is wild.

That terrifies me. Oh my God, I'm not going on Instagram anymore. You are one slipped finger away. Away. That sounded very sexual. Away. Away from it all just, phew, pf, pf, podcast, gone. No, no, don't be stupid. I'll be fine. Yeah, you'll be, you'll be fine. No, just from it all just going away. Absolutely wild. That's why we called it should I delete that in case one of us get cancelled. It wasn't, should we delete that? Should I delete that? So if one of us gets cancelled, the other one's fine, it's still relevant. God, I thought I was a goner a couple of weeks ago. I don't know why. It's because I was doing those interviews on my own. I did

the interviews on my own, which is when you lost your voice before Christmas and now they're coming out and I've got all this anxiety that it's like... They're also a long time ago, so it's probably... Yeah, and I was so ill. I was just barely, you know what I mean? Like, I only had a half my brain and I just feel the weight of responsibility. when you do something on your own. I think at least if we fuck up, then we've fucked up. You know, there's some comfort in that. Then I've fucked up.

And then that's a lonely, lonely place to be. You didn't get cancelled and it was a shame because I've fancied going solo. Did you? Yeah, just going out on my own. Noted. Tough, actually, because your reputation's gone. You've been unfollowed. Well, yeah, exactly.

By the masses. Yeah, no, that was bad. Yeah, no chance at redemption for you. Gone. Very awkward. I'm enjoying my clicking today, aren't I know. I have a little awkward for you. Sorry, yeah.

I'm quite good at it too. Yeah, you are. Can you do it with the other hand there? Because I can't. I'm a one hand wander. Why does everything sound so sexual today? Wait, but why can you do it with your... You can't do it with your dominant hand.

Your right hand, which is weird. It's not that weird. I'll leave me alone. I think that's quite weird. I have a little awkward for you. Good. I was getting into the shower the other day. And, like, you know what it's like?

have to, like, keep the baby busy while you're in the shower. So, like, I put some toys down for him, like, down on the floor, um, took my clothes off, stepped into the shower and he just looked up at me and started pissing himself, pissing himself, belly laughs, proper, like, they turned from giggles to belly laughs. And I was like, what are you doing? It's like, you little bastard. What are you doing?

So humbling. I was like, you're laughing at me. He's just like, cry you laughing. That's quite nice. But endearing. So then I was like, so I go, and he was pointing. And which bit? And my stomach.

So I went closer to him and he was just like poking it laughing. Oh, that's quite sweet. It's really sweet. But like he's seen it before and I was like, what's changed? Yeah. What's up? Happened. What's going on?

That's so sweet. I know. It does make you, yeah, it's got to push you into body neutrality, doesn't it? Oh yeah. I mean, the only way that I can keep it. Arlo busy when I'm in the shower is if I push my butt cheeks against the glass. Sorry, what?

That feels like something you shouldn't have omitted. It's because she thinks it's funny. So if I put my bum bum on the glass, it keeps her keeps on locked out. No, just the bum. Okay, because she finds the bum. Yeah, I guess kids find buns funny.

So it's like, if I need to keep her in the bathroom when I'm having a quick shower, I'm like, come see Mommy's bum bum. And then it's like, do you have to like do all you're washing with your bump against the I just have to occasionally bump it against a glass to keep her there do you know what I mean like I can go into the shower do my business and then it's like oh there it is then can you miss it

wow I know it's a lot this really is an awkward episode she looks at me and she goes like mommy bum bum like mommy nose she looked at my nose with it she went mommy nose big so big your nose so big cool yeah

but you can't say no it's not you can't argue because one she's two and two there's nothing wrong with having a big nose there's not

so when she goes mommy's bum bum big I'm like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

yeah yeah yeah yeah good observation good yeah Oh my God, such an image, such a mental image. It's a lot.

And it won't go. No. Why should it? We have listener awkwards. Good, right, help. Moving on. The thing is, this will be people like tripping over or making a mistake. Like, I actively make this choice to be weird every single morning.

Do you know what I mean? Like this, I'll be like, oh, I sent a typo to my boss and like, oh, it was really bad. Whereas I'm like, here, look, let me just squish my butt against the glass. But don't you often think, like, there's so much stuff that we do in private. That should stay private That should stay private We'll all say that Yeah

I was going to say that like If other people saw it's doing It'd be so weird But we all do weird things But if they're like made public It's like Okay give me something What I do

Dread to think Like when I pick my nose and eat it You know No kidding I don't mean she's kidding Say what do you do That's all when you're alone I pretend that my house is like a restaurant

Oh my god, what? What was it serving? So at the end of the day I'll close the restaurant and I'm like, it's been a good show. Oh my God. Do you say it out loud? Do you count the cash?

No, I'm just like, just doing the clothes. Do you know what? I love that. That's so nice. I love that. Dex? Anything weird? I refuse that myself.

That's smart. I like that, Faye. You should give a tip jar. You should tip yourself. And then you can count your tips at the end of the night. That would be nice. Yeah. I let the dog hunt me.

That's probably quite weird. But like if you see it in context, it's kind of like, I can't really stop it. So I don't know. Embarrassing from our listeners. I went for a relaxing facial. It was dark. I had a hot funnel over my eyes. Therapist said, deep breath in and out.

I thought she said, take this in your mouth. so I was blindfolded trying to bite a roll of flannel like a rabid dog wait what she thought that the therapist said take this in your mouth what the thing that was on her eyes the thing that was on her eyes so she was trying to bite the panel like a rabid dog oh my god that's just reminded me I saw a thing on TikTok and it was a woman saying I want to hear your most unhinged motherhood hacks and like things that you do like the most unhinged things and people were in the comments

they were absolutely hilarious with so many of them but one of them was this woman saying my son will only let us wash the shampoo out of his hair if we pretend

that we're water-pording him and asking him where the muffin man is that's absolutely brilliant so they put the flannel over his mouth and go where's the muffin man where's the muffin man

and it's the only way they can get the shampoo out of his hair that is so funny I need to see this TikTok. I saved it. I was so good. I'll send it to you. Okay. So, a bit of a longer one. The first year my boyfriend and I were together, he only had a single bed. He's a six foot one rugby player, so it really wasn't an option to share, resulting in our solution, an air mattress. It's incredibly important to know here that he lives with his

mum and sister. All seemed fine and dandy until about the year mark when I was downstairs using the bathroom and realised I could hear him rolling over on the air mattress overhead. My anxious overthinking brain kicked in and I realized his mother and sister had been able to hear our enthusiastic coupling via the sound of an air mattress shuffling across the floor overhead for a year. Oh my God, there's so much to that. First of all, I'm obsessed with her bringing enthusiasm to an air mattress because there is nothing that makes me less enthusiastic than an air mattress. Second of all, where's it from? Because those things go down the minute I sit on them. God, I'm loving that click. And the third thing is, that's hilarious.

As she's humping, she's humping. It's going to be shuffling, isn't it? Well, he's having, as the humping gets happening, the bed's going to move, isn't it? There's no friction. There's no, it's going to be sliding all over the place, like a lilac in a swimming pool. I mean, if she could pick up him rolling over, then yes, their enthusiastic coupling will be, will be heard. You need carpet runners for that thing. You need something that's going to stick it to the ground, so it stays where it is. It's been over a year and I'm still mortified, I made his mom and sister cake as a silent apology and penance. You made them cake?

They're not going to want that. That's not going to know where your hands have been. No. No. That's not going to raise all the trauma. You're a humpy little hands. No. You've been slipping and sliding all over that bedroom.

Humpy little hands. What's wrong with me? I'm just disgusting. I know. Stop it. It's disgusting. Sorry. Wash your mouth out.

I think I would if, I would. Saying. Get me that flannel. Get me the flannel from the first awkward. I'll scrub around. I don't see what the wrong with me. she just did a very lewd hand gesture guys sorry and i've been out a lot recently i i can tell i can tell i need a night out with a glass of wine i think i'll be fine me too

should we have one maybe like three glasses of wine now what time is it yes it's 1129 perfect by the time we're finished it'll be 12 it'll be 12 o'clock i love this one saying take care baby to the veterinary receptionist on the phone instead of take care by take care baby Take care, baby. I like that. That's sweet. Take care, baby. I would be delighted if someone said that to me on the phone.

I feel like no one takes care of me. You know what I mean? I would like it. Take care, yeah, take care, baby. That's gentle. It's gentle. That's exactly what I need. I'm in the market for a comment like that.

I bet the receptionist really appreciated it. I still maintain that I don't know what to do when you go into a vet. I took back to the vet recently and they said, who are you here for? And I didn't know what to say. I still don't know how you say that. Do I, I was like, pointing at the dog. I was like, well, my name's Alex, but her, this is my dog. And her name's betty.

I think you say the dog's name. Do you? I think so. Yeah. I need to change Bua's surname. I don't know how to do that. I think if I think you're all right. Well, I'm not, because I didn't change it when we got married.

So she's the only one in the family, but a different surname. I don't think it's official for dogs. Well, so she's just, she's like Cher or Madonna. Yeah. She says one name. Yeah. I don't think there's anything. official. No, she's a doggy passport, so we can go to Dublin. I don't want to having a different

name, she'll feel othered. I think, I think she'll survive. I think she'll be okay. Well, you can expect, you can break that to her. I think on her list of concerns and worries. It's a long list, actually. Yeah, I'd say that one's pretty far down. No, I think actually that's the heart of it. That's the crux of it. I think she's feeling othered. I think I need to rectify it. Do you think? I'm going to do something about that. Okay, let's know. Yeah, I will. Let's know the process because so many of us want tips on that. All right, sarky, as you were. My boyfriend saved our anniversary as Shagavursary

on his Google calendar and as a laugh. And I was absolutely mortified when his mum reminded us that she can see his calendar. Shagiversary. This is more dumb than embarrassing, but I thought the ash used on Ash Wednesday was from the cremations. I feel so thick,

but it's the only ash I could think of when I thought churches. Oh my God. She thinks so. using dead people to bless the congregation every weekend. Oh no, just once a year. That makes it a bit better, I suppose. Wait, I don't know.

What is Ash Wednesdays? Well, Ash Wednesdays at Easter, when I get very confused by Easter, if I'm honest, because there's a lot of days. There's a lot going on. But it's where they do the cross on the forehead with the ash. They give you some bread, some wine, and then they put ash.

She thought it was human remains. Sounds like it. Oh my God. What's just the unclaimed ones? Just, dunk, dunk, dunk. Oh my God that's so funny But also I would think that too So I'm not judging you

Have you seen videos of people scattering ashes No Because it's never like what you think it's gonna be Always come back in their faces Well yeah It's quite like clumpet And there's loads of them Yeah

It's quite a lot Because my mum's got Give me some instructions You know she's like When the time will scatter me And it's like I always think it's gonna be a nice Well God

Her original plan was that she wanted us And she was gonna put it In her will But we had to take her remains to Buckingham Palace and scatter her in the garden. Now, first of all, she wasn't specific. I was like, we'd better be burning you first because I'm not taking, like, an arm

and just leaving it somewhere on the lawn. But then it was like, if you're right, at the palace gates. Just throw them over the wall. And she was like, no, I want it to be like the ultimate challenge, like a reverse Easter egg hunt. You need to, first of all, secure an invitation. This is my dying wish.

Like you need to secure an invitation to Buckingham Palace because you can't just go in. Of course not. You're going to have to secure an invitation then it's going to have to be an invitation that's going to get you into the garden. So it's probably going to have to be some sort of like ceremonial summer affair.

So it's like you've got to be quite specific in the invitation that you do get, which probably means getting into a line of work that will get you on, which seems a bit risky, but we're playing a long game here. So then we're in, but then it's like you've got to sneak it in

and then I'm not going to take a whole like a kilogram bag they'll think of like shipping heroin. So it's like, well, I'll just take a little bit like a little baggy. You know what I mean? Maybe between the bum cheeks. I don't know. It depends how thorough the searches are.

But who's to know? You know what I mean? This is your one shot. And then get into the garden and then, do you. Okay, but like, what if you get into a line of work that might lead to that? But you're asked to go into booking parlors before she dies. Well, how bad did you want it, Francie? Do you know what I mean?

Time to put your money where you're mouth. I don't know. I think she is happy now just to go to the Isle of Man. Do you have to get an OBE to be invited to... Buckingham Palace. Thankfully, I've not had to look into it thoroughly. Yes. You do get to go if you become a bee of some kind

because they do the don't, don't, you know, shoulder tap. Although not for the dames, famously. Getting home said it. Yeah, they don't dom the shoulders with the sword for the women. Okay, well, yeah. I mean, I feel like you could get into Buckingham Palace one day. I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility, but it's more smuggling the body in that was going to be the issue.

Yeah, that's a sticking point. Do you know what I mean? I mean, yeah. Then I thought maybe I could get a drone. I thought a lot about it, but I think, I think, hopefully I can stop thinking about that now. I bet they shoot down drones that go above Buckingham Palace. Yeah, but that's where you've got to do it well, right? So you, you could suddenly get up.

Well, if they shoot it down. Yeah. But it's full of ashes. Yeah, that's it. There you go. It would be majestic. It would be gorgeous. Yeah.

How full, I was just going to put like a couple. It'd be like an ash firework. Yeah. That would be nice. such a good idea. Oh, yeah. You get it. You don't need to get invited.

Yeah, let's put my, let's blow my mom into the sky and have her shot at the security. Wee! How much chest do you. You welcome, Francie. Hey. Oh, yeah. Oh, God. Okay.

Next up. Got, Katty's got a plan for a funeral that's why my sister. Go on. She won't. It's pretty morose. She wants to be hung from the ceiling fan. She wants to be a big surprise. I'll leave it.

I'll get her to tell the story. I'll get her to, not hung hung, but like sort of like decoratively. Like Jesus was on the cross kind of thing. It's sort of big surprise for the funeral. So everyone's like, ah,

she doesn't have a coffin. Oh, that's horrible. I'll ask her to do it as a voice note. She can tell us the whole. Please do. Please do. Next week we want the voice note. Noted.

Love her you just drop that in, that little grenade. Yeah. It's a big, it's a production. I've got all the notes. We need a voice note. Noted. This next one.

I asked a waiter for a stiffy cocky pudding instead of sticky toffee. See, she's on my page today. Stiffy cocky. I love her. Stiffy cocky. That's, I can get you arrested. Oh, I'm travelling and didn't realize I had food poisoning and I power vomited three times. in a crowded mall.

This is my nightmare is to suddenly get food poisoning. Power vomited. Oh no, this is my nightmare. It sounds like a power hose. This is like day when we went to New York. Oh my God, yeah. It's my nightmare to be out and about.

Would you rather throw up power vomit or power poo in public? Power vomit. Obviously power vomit. Yeah. You don't soil anything when you power... I mean, like, you... When you power poo, you soil your pants.

Also, it's shit, you know what I mean? Like, it's shit. Exactly. Like, there's also that. You just sprayed shit everywhere. There's definitely more of a hygiene concern when you spray shit than sick. Six's not good either, but... Six's not great, but like...

You can catch more from poo. Fact. It's just... You know what I mean? It's just shit, isn't it? And then also you've got to... Like, if you power vomit... technically I mean there's a mess in front of you but you can once that mess is gone you can

go about your day and no one will know but if you power shit there's just no chance no okay I work on the railway and in the past week have asked on the phone to a driver how big are you meaning how long is your train oh how big your train you know you know what is wrong with me I'm like what it's wrong with you it's not great is it oh and I'm not even an auntie. I'm not even an auntie. But that's it, that's it, isn't it? It's always the uncle.

It's always the uncle. It's not a blood relation. I know. I'm not, and then my kids don't have cousins. And I feel like it could be a while. I think you might be right. For your,

I'm not holding my breath. Your siblings have children. I know. Well, Captain really want them. I was going to say, I feel like I remember her telling me she doesn't want them. Yeah, and then my brother lives in Australia. It's a single Pringle.

Yeah, well, yeah. I mean, you never know. Things happen quite quickly. in Australia. I don't know. I say that because my friend moved to Australia, met a guy and then I had a baby like got pregnant within two months of meeting him. So in my head things happen quickly in Australia but that was a weird. They're on 1.25 speed. A very weird sweeping generalisation. I actually think they're quite relaxed

nation. I think they're quite. Famously they are. They're very relaxed. They're chilled. They're chillers. Yeah. I yeah it sounds vibey. Like his life there sounds incredibly good. Can I ask, this is, this is, This is going like so far as a topic. But yeah. Okay. Sorry. Jump scare.

This is so random, but we have a bit of time. Can I just ask you what you think about this, particularly, in particular? So, you know Celeste Barber? Yes. I'm thinking about this because I just listened to her doing a podcast. She's on the podcast is called Not Skinny, but Not Fat, a bit of a weird name. But she did that podcast. She's Australian, that's why it's come to me.

And she was talking about how M. Rata Jouse. M-Rasca will say for... You nailed that. Thank you so much. I would have avoided this entire topic so that I didn't have to say her name properly. Well, as a linguist, I find things...

I find things... I find things like this really easy. They just come naturally. M. Rata has blocked her after she did a parody video of her. Because you know, Celeste Barber is famous for... If you don't know her, she's famous for parody videos. Generally, it's like,

women like models and like influences who were like very glamorous and usually very thin and she she does parodies of them basically and they are funny but she did a parody of M. Rata and she blocked her and said in another in an end of podcast episode that she didn't like it because she didn't have her consent and she feels like her body was the butt of the joke once again and Celeste Barber and the host of this podcast were kind of laughing at her for this and saying like she just needs to get a sense of humor and Rata and I wonder what your take what do you think about that what's your take on that funnily enough I was thinking about that this morning or something similar this morning

because I thought there's a trend on TikTok and it's like is this a good outfit or is she just thin like I see this quite a lot people basically saying like is it an outfit or is she just thin and I get what people are doing because it's like clothes are designed to look good on thin people so obviously yeah like they are it's easier to dress quote unquote well because clothes are made for you right so they're going to look good on you and we've been taught that like style is synonymous with thinness a hundred percent and like yeah we see the runway and like that models are whatever I get it but I also think it's a little bit like dehumanizing and I know that's a bit maybe a bit dramatic but I was thinking about this morning and I was like it's just a little

bit mean that we do this. I understand if we were looking at like the cover of Vogue and making this video and it's like, is it a good outfit or is she just thin? If you're looking at models in a curated sense where a stylist just pulled the outfit together, we'll be looking at a runway, we're looking at a look. But I think it's a little bit when it's just sort of like women online and we just pluck it. I know what you mean. This is an element of like she can take it because she looks like this or like. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Because she's the beauty standard, I can say what I want about her. Yeah, and I feel that there's an element of that.

Sometimes with Celeste's comment, the content and content like it. I know that I've made content like that in the past. Like, well, I mean, looking at the, I haven't for a while because I don't think we do that so much anymore. But I think I used to do it a little bit with like the Kardashians and the genres, particularly when they were very obviously editing stuff. Like I take the piss out of that. But I think there is an element of like, like you say, yeah, well, she's a beauty standard so she can. Yeah. Well, I actually, funnily off, sorry.

TikTok, TikTok, TikTok last night. We're going to keep trying to make it happen, guys. I know. It was this girl saying, like, uh, you like,

you can't fight me on this. Like, silk dresses look better on bigger women. And, you know, like these kind of clothes look better, like listing clothes that look better on, that look better on bigger women or like curvy women.

And I was like, this is just not very good either. No. But I understand. I get it. And it's kind of like, it's, what we were talking about a few weeks ago with like context basically that you know there's obviously

context to it in that like yeah people who fit the beauty standard are like they have clothes designed for them like they they don't have any kind of suffering so to speak so it's an element on like the emrata thing and I don't know if I'm like really stretching but I do feel like there's a like a small element of like it slightly invalidates her as like when we're laughing at just her body or like when we make her body the joke and obviously you know she's done a lot of work around her body yeah that's what they said her book is called yeah my body um so obviously she's going to feel a certain kind of way about it but i do think there's an element of like when we look at a woman because it's always a woman and we it's quite reductive to to just

make her body the thing but then she's a model so maybe that's what she is but yeah i don't know I also feel like with those parody videos, as long as you're not aware that, as long as you think that everything is in good nature and the people that you're parodying are taking it, you know, in good nature, then it's fine. But then the moment someone says to you,

I don't like that. And you are using their image, their video, I feel like that's when you should say, absolutely, okay, I'll leave you alone. Oh, I don't know about that. Do you not? I don't know. I mean, yes, as a good person, but like, do you owe it to, you know, like, as a...

I think so. Well, yeah, I mean, if you're getting... Yeah. It depends if you think the person's doing harm. Like, I think a really good example of a very good parody situation is, you know, that girl, it went super viral, the girl doing the Bentley adverts. And it's like, she would be standing, like, next to the Bentley. And it's like, she would, like, tap... It was an ASMR, and she'd, like, tap the bonnet.

it and be like bentley was it was bentley and then like go around the alloys and like go like drag her nails around the alloys and go like bentley right and then people would do it with their like citrons and they'd just do it like shit so she'd be doing this absolutely beautiful woman in this showroom with this really expensive car and she's like stroking the steering wheel and she's like bent me and then people would do it with their like a guy did it with his Ford transit I think it went really viral because then Ford got in touch being like love it but and he'd be like transit like and he'd be doing it like and he'd be doing it it with his wheels but transit or whatever and it's like I feel like that is like the epitome of a funny harmless parody yeah no one's laughing at anyone in particular yeah we're just doing it

well and we're doing it kindly also that and that's not her content it's a brand it's a brand's content it's a brand's vision it's a brand's everything she just uses the model in that yeah but when like Celeste is directly taking someone's content don't you think yeah yeah that I keep saying on the word like dehumanising and I think that like that's the risk that you run when you reduce a woman to just her body

it is just a bit like how she can like that's the risk that you run and we do it with celebs all the time we just you know we reduce them to just yeah our perception of them we are guilty of I mean I'm definitely guilty of that yeah totally and we reduce them to our perception of them

and then we kind of judge them on that or react to them on that and it's like it's I think the more people that are on social media the more we need to be careful that like it's a slippery slope from like the Bentley girl to like Em Rata who's a supermodel and we assume she hasn't got any problems and therefore we can laugh at her to like an influencer and then it's like it's an influencer and then it's someone you go to school with and then it's just everybody's just got their feelings yeah because also like because the other thing is right I know influencing's a silly job like

I get it but it's also an incredibly lucrative business opportunity for young people to be getting into and we should be celebrating it. For young women. It's a, it's a female, a woman-dominated space. And it's cool. Yeah. Women are building businesses on their own, from the, from their own home, doing something that they love, that they're passionate about, that's cool. Which is potentially part of the reason that we are collectively hate it so much and resent it so much. And we don't need to be shitty about it. And I do think there's an element of like just putting people down who are trying. And I think that's quite mean. Like all the time, it's like when we like, We were all, I mean, I obviously said this was like a lot of skin in the game

because I've had the awkward growth period. Like it's fine now we do it for a job and we've got hundreds of thousands of followers. But you have to grind to get there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a time when we had 100 followers and then 200 and then 1,000 and then 2,000. And then you have to put yourself out there. Yeah. You have to like lay bare a lot of yourself and your life. And if people started taking the piss out of me, I don't think I'd have taken,

I think it would have really, really hurt me. I mean, it would hurt me now. That's, yeah, yeah. And that's what I just kind of thought listening to that, I don't know, it didn't sit right with me that Celeste was, you know, that it were joking, like she just needs to get a sense of humour.

I was like, I don't know, I think it's her right to be, sorry, going back to Emerita. Yeah, I just think it's her right to be upset by that content, but. Yeah, I think we do have a general perception that women, thin women just, oh, like, nothing,

they can take anything. They can take anything. Yeah, nothing will permeate. Yeah, nothing will permeate that thin exterior. Yeah, yeah. The frail exterior of yours. Exactly. I just thought that was quite interesting

I just thought it was quite interesting I don't really like that parody style content I have to say I don't think I find it funny I think we've grown sometimes I do like that Bentley one like that sounds funny but that specific style I don't know it's like you say

if everybody's laughing then it's good then it's good yeah and I think if you're using it in a way to call out harm the space there's space for something there You know, if you feel that you're doing, like, definitely.

Like if you are laughing, perhaps, at somebody who is very filtered, who's used a very obvious filter to sell something, for example. Yeah. Potentially there's space for something there. That's true. And actually, that's something that I do do a lot when I talk about, I think I do it less now, but when I talk about celebrities and like stuff that I perceive as doing harm, I do use, like, celebrity images and celebrity content.

Yeah. And I definitely done that in the part. I weigh that up, whether I make the right decision or not every time, probably not. But, like, I weigh up, like, is this causing harm and do I have potential to... I suppose, I suppose Celeste is laughing at herself with that content. And I suppose that's... I don't know. Yeah, well, that's it.

I'm not sure. You need to work out who you're laughing at. Yeah. I always feel with my content, and I feel like for you too, like we laugh at ourselves first and foremost. I don't know that Celeste is a butt of the joke. in those parodies. I don't know. Maybe that's what you have to work out.

Yeah. It's such an interesting thing like your, because we've all got different morals and we've all got different lines. And so, and there is an element of like, well, if you're going to be on the internet, like this is how it goes and this, you need to be prepared for people to.

I would be hurt though. Like if I saw someone, for example, doing one of my running video, like if someone took a piss out of me doing a running video. Yeah. For example, and mimicked them on, I would be so upset. Yeah.

so I don't know if Celeste Bob did a parody of me I would be mortified yeah mortified yeah but I guess like it's different because I'm not uploading

that kind of model like content like but then do we say that models serve to be laughed at because then again I feel like it's that misogynistic and it's just like well we can laugh at her because all she is is a body she's just a clothes hanger so we can laugh at her

she's not a real person oh she looks good she knows she looks good we all know she looks good we should knock her down a peg yeah there is an element of like i do think so i'm very conflicted i feel very conflicted i thought i felt a certain way now we started talking fay how do you feel about it do you know celeste's content i've just looked at it yeah if it was celeste making for about doing a parody of m i'd be really not set yeah yeah and and the thing is like we know she's upset she said she's upset like that should be when celeste backs off and goes

i'll take it down i'm like i think so like i think that's what i would do If, you know, she wasn't, I think, the video was an innocuous. Okay, fine to me. Look, so I think that what I meant when I said not is if, if it was like, use an example of me a few weeks ago, that video that I did. Yeah, where I'm sharing troll comments.

And then the trolls who've shared the comment, I hate saying trolls, it's so fucking, it's phantilisism, it's annoying. The people who left the shitty comments get in touch with me and say, I'm hurt by this. And there's an element of me being like, what actions have consequences? it's because you were nasty

and all I've done is platform your nastiness. Yeah. But you're right, if something innocuous is taken and made into something else that it wasn't intended to be and it's manipulated,

then that's a little bit unfair. Yeah. I also, I think you agree with me on this one, is I don't know if Celeste is far away, far enough away from the beauty standard to parody those videos. Well, because she looks amazing.

well she's a thin woman yeah I think the idea is that it's like well I'm real like I'm real and they're not real that's I always thought that's how that content started I think I probably made stuff like it yeah in the past which is like I'm real and they're not real but I think that it had its moment that content for sure for sure and I think we we have this um we do have this attitude towards beautiful women that they're not really real so we can yeah we can do with them what we want. I think there is an element of that. But yeah, when, if Emerita's going to humanise herself and say, hey, I'm her, then it's like, well, sorry. That's her prerogative. Yeah. And she should just be left alone. I don't know. I kind of felt her when they were like, get a sense of humor. And I was

like, well, she doesn't have to have a sense of humor. You know, like, she doesn't have to have your sense of humor. I get very upset when people say that, like, humor is the most important thing. And it's like, humor's like one of the most objective things as well. Like, you find this funny. Yeah. She doesn't find this funny. Like, leave her alone. It's like a little bit more important than humor. But then, you know, look at me, Snowflake, can't take a joke. So what do I know? I know.

It's hard. I don't know. I'm so triggered by that word. Snowflake? Yeah, because I feel like people write on my stuff all the time and it just pitses me off. Did it? Or they just do the emoji, the snowflake emoji. I don't think that means cocaine.

Maybe they think you're a raging cokehead. Maybe. Oh, that's a fun reframe. Yeah. Party girl. she's wild you and kate if you've never seen a video of kate moors is all anybody comments underneath i don't think they mean that she's snowflake i have at the paris fashion week i have seen those videos yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i don't think i don't think snowflake in that context no no

no different kind of snowflakes yeah yeah yeah um okay well we gotta go we gotta go i got to put my butt cheeks against the shower doors oh sorry yeah horrible horrible absolutely horrible i'm gonna do it tomorrow though you know i am yeah but Tommy Tommy's gonna watch this Dave Betty. I want a full audience. Oh, Betty, I'll be like, let me on. That's illegal.

Absolutely disgusting. You're fired. It's illegal, you're right. Thank you so much, guys. Peacocking to the dong. You're disgusting. What an unhinged episode. Horrible.

Horrible. Horrible. But also loved it. All right, guys. Love you, see you Monday. Bye. Bye. Should I delete that as part of the ACAST creator network?