Should I Delete That? - Ozempic and the Met Gala

Episode Date: May 8, 2024

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Hello and welcome back to Should I Delete That? I'm Alex Light. I'm M Clarkson. We have so much to talk about. No foreplay, let's go. Okay, straight in, straight in. Except I don't know where to start. So much to talk about.

Last Thursday, in Is It Just Me's episode, if you missed it, we talked about how Finn is back. We talked about a Zempip. We talked about the kind of like rights that people, particularly in the public I have to lose weight and we asked at the end of the trailer whether if Alex decided that she was going to take us on a weight loss journey you'd all hate her

and the feedback has been massive like we've never had like emails like this do you know what I wanted to start by reading out an email that I think is really important to acknowledge okay hi Alex NEM just listen to a recent podcast

episode just discussing a Zemik and I appreciate you asking for listener input because I'd love to chime in with some thoughts. As someone who's been diagnosed with PCOS for over 15 years, I've struggled throughout my life with persistent weight gain and metabolic issues leading to obesity. Most women with PCOS face similar challenges, including insulin resistance, obesity, infertility to name a few, often leading to diabetes if unmanaged. Recently, my blood work hinted at pre-diabetes and the only solution offered by my consultant was for me to lose weight. It's frustrating as managing PCOS isn't as simple as eat less, move more.

Most of us are trying to do this and are still consistently gaining weight. regardless. I recently started taking Manjaro, a GLP1 med, which has been a game changer for me. It's like, have you heard of Manjaro? It's like an updated version of OZMPIC. It's got even like better results for weight loss than OZMPIC. But it's essentially the same thing because GLP1 med. The media often demonises these meds, labeling them as cheating or perpetuating and attainable standards. But obesity is a complex medical condition influenced by genetic, environmental and hormonal factors and for many lifestyle changes alone aren't enough. GLP1 meds stabilise hormone imbalances that many women like me face.

They're not a quick fix, but they're a tool to improve long-term health. Why shouldn't we be empowered to utilise them? I've personally been really conflicted about what I'll say when people start to notice my weight loss and ask how I've done it. I literally couldn't have done it without these meds, but I don't have the energy to have to defend myself every time I explain to people that I've had to take a GLP1 medication to get here because their heads are filled with negative stigma fuelled by the media. I completely appreciate the concerns, but let's not forget the rigorous research backing these medication, safety and efficacy. Every single medication comes with side effects, just look at contraceptive pills, for example, and the barrage of negative side effects that come along with these. We don't call women out for continuing to take these. Sorry for the essay, I just

wanted to offer a different perspective to balance out the negative. Maybe a future episode could dive into the science behind these meds and debunk some myths. Keep up the great work. I think that's a really good idea for a future episode. It's such a good idea. Let's do it. And I also like, it really kind of like slapped me back to be like, you've got the fucker, who are the fuck am I to judge? like because she's right who are you like who are you who am i to tell you what you can't do who's any of us she's so it's it's so true because we're like we live in this world like set up for slim people yeah and when people aren't slim we say to them lose weight lose weight and you can afford the same benefits of slim people come like fertility help and and medication

and surgery even and then when it comes to like something that they're offered that's going to help them do that then we're like bad bad that's such that's so disgusting that you would take that like of course people are going to take it and i have no doubt that it works and i mean it does works well for for a lot of people but i'm really a game changer and i'm really struck by how she said that she's already worrying about like how she's going to defend it and i'm drawing a parallel and it's a bit of a stretch and perhaps not appropriate but looking at like tweaks and the kind of conversation that we had with ell in Atlanta in an episode a monday episode a little while ago and it's like you set the world up you have this unobtainable beauty standard

women make their decision for whatever reason and honestly like the overwhelming feeling of my feminism is that women should feel empowered to make whatever decision they want right whether that be filler or a new nose or ozempic or whatever and it's such an inevitable and rational reaction that we do want to change our bodies

and it's so unfair then that we demonise women because it's always women who have got there via a means that we judge for no other reason other than that it's easier than women should have it. Right. We feel like people are taking an easy way out. They're like cheating somehow. People don't want women to have an easy time. Except we have like decades and decades of research that says that diets do not work. And people refute this all the time. But it's true that if you're looking at long-term sustainable weight loss, diets do not work for the vast, vast majority of

people almost 100% of people because it's really hard there's like metabolic issues at play and there's like evolutionary issues at play like our bodies physically don't want us to lose weight it's part of our evolution that we're not supposed to lose weight it's not good for us and if if eat less move more we're a we're a we're a very doable you know viable thing then we'd all everyone would be thin but also even if it works in theory right okay so you'll get and you do get jimbrose all the It's like, well, it's a calorie deficit. Yes, yes. I hear that term one more time.

The thing is, though, they're not wrong, right? If you go into a calorie deficit, for a long time, you will inevitably at some point change physiologically. However, if the advice works, and this is like the difference, it's like it's not necessarily the diet itself. It's the rhetoric around it. It's so much more complex than just to say this very simple X plus X equals Y. it doesn't it's not that because all data shows that for whatever reason it's not working it doesn't mean that the formula's broken because yes a calorie deficit in theory works but there are so many factors mental health accessibility cost like a million things that get in the way and we don't take any of that seriously and it's like particularly for women although to be honest this happens because plus size men are treated

just as badly in my opinion it's like that should be your priority like how we can't comprehend that anything your children your career your mental health your happiness your family your sick parents your dog anything

could be more important as a priority to you than being thin and it's so jarring for the world to just see somebody not being like because of because of a perfectly valid excuse not that you have to have an excuse.

Right. It frustrates me so much. It goes back to, again, like, people not being able to comprehend or understand something that's outside of their lived experience. So there's a guy who's never had a problem with his weight ever. He's always been a very slim person, never had to work at it. Okay, he goes to the gym, but, like, it's easy. It comes naturally to him. He enjoys it.

Also, probably doesn't have kids, and it's quite like, he's got spare time, and he enjoys it. And he enjoys it. If you hate the gym, go into the gym, the worst thing in the world. Like, why would you do it? But then to not listen to people who are saying, and I guess we're going off track here, we're digressing, but to listen to people who are saying to them, calorie deficit doesn't work for me. Calories in versus calories out is not doing it.

I'm still at a weight that I don't want to be at. It's complicated. It's so complicated. And I just think we need to listen to people. And I don't want this. I totally understand what this girl is saying who wrote in. And she's right. And I hope that what we said in last week's episode wasn't like shaming people who,

were taking it because I don't want that to be what comes from this conversation because like I genuinely have zero judgment to anyone taking that drug, zero judgment. Me neither. I think I have my own stuff to unpick with it because I do know people that are taking it and I suppose I do and I suppose I recently found out about a friend who's about to take it who I, in my opinion, has no need to. Right. But that's not my fucking business and I had to sit in the car on the way home and be like not my business yeah i have to really check myself on that but i think there has to be space within this conversation for two things to be true and that's that of course anybody is entitled to do anything in the same way actually that you were

entitled to take booty in those laxatives and any of that shit that you know that sort of pre pre existed pre that came before this the the i guess we also have to have a critical eye on the society that's monetizing the vulnerability and that is making ozempic and its competitors the most like coveted thing because yes individually people have a right to take it and enjoy the benefits and all of that but I guess it's the like why the why and yes there may be health reasons as are documented here but I guess in lots of cases as we see in Hollywood or whatever or you know we've just coming out at the Met Gala and we have to talk about

that. Definitely. What I will say is, just very quickly, is that I would love for the administration, I'd like to administer something, is that one? Yeah. Okay. The administrators. I'd love for the distribution of OZMPIC to be controlled better than, you know, better than it is now, because right now you can do an online consultation and it arrives at your house the next day. It should be a physical in-person examination, consultation, where the doctor or the physician can assess the person's mental health and check for any background, you know, illness, eating disorders, essentially. So I think that's what I would like to see more of, more rigorous, like, guidelines in place

before people get the drug. Because it's going to end up in the wrong hands. It already is in the wrong hands. Well, I mean, I think that's the thing as well. And even thinking about, like, policing the Kardashians, for example, you think, and it's a horrible thing to say, but it's also a reality. If anybody, if you want, if you want, if this celebrity wants to be thin and that, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, then, then they'll find a way. They'll find a way. And if it's not this, it's something else.

And if it's not something else, it's something else. And so perhaps you're right, we try and focus instead on, like, rather than removing it or whatever, it's, you focus on safeguarding the access. Speaking of the Kardashians, I had a day yesterday. Yeah, you had a day. We've had a week. We've had the week. If we haven't been replying to it on Instagram, it's because everybody's being horrible to us. Because I'm in a fucking spiral.

It's like that meme, I'm going into a spiral. Does anyone want anything? I love that so much. Okay, tell the list of what's happened. The Met Gala happened. Kim Kardashian wore John Galli, no, sorry, Maison Majel. I can't remember, Maisemoiselle. And she was wearing like a metal corset

and her waist was like possibly the size of my hand. Literally small than my thigh. I was looking at my thigh for so long. Easily. It was like, calf, calf. It was like. It was nothing. This size. Absolutely tiny. Like crazy. And then I saw a lot of people do post

and articles. I'm like, she's setting unrealistic beauty standards yet again. And so Grazie came to me about writing an article for it and I said I would love to but I want to take a different approach to it rather than she's setting unrealistic beauty standards I'd rather talk about how like we need to start like putting those to one side and not looking at celebrities as like putting them on pedestals and like letting them guide our beauty standards we need to like go back to just appreciating our bodies exactly as they are because that's like the cool thing right the post went out and I think the headline of the post didn't necessarily tell the full picture.

No. And people were triggered and it was like a knee-jerk reaction and I was just flooded with comments and DMs. People like, you just love bashing the Kardashians. To be fair, I have to say that I have done, I have talked a lot about the Kardashians because I do work around body image and they have like dictated body image and beauty standards for a long time. I think it's important that we have to talk about them. Anyway, I got a lot of flack for it and I was like, guys, please read the article of anything. I'm almost like defensive. her. I'm saying she's also a product of her own environment and like she's not the only one

who was, had a tiny waist on the, on the Met Gala red carpet. Like, celebrities are looking thinner than ever and it's like, it's a coincidental timing that like it's as ozempic booms, again, not judging them, but like it's just, you know, there's tons of them that are looking thin. Anyway, there was a lot of triggered. I was like, oh, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. I was like, take it down. I want to take it down. And then I was like, no, no, I can't do this every time. I'm like, every time my toad like dips in hot water, I'm like, ah, run. Put me out. It is, it is, it's, there's nothing worse than being misunderstood, is there?

No, I hate it. It's so annoying. It triggers me so much. I know, you've just got to let them be wrong and it's so annoying. I know. Do you know what? I can, but give me like seven hours. Give me, like, after seven hours.

The most important person I know. I was, I started ignoring the comments, but at the first I was like, no, no, you can't read around it. I know, I was looking at your comments going, Please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please. It's desperate. Please, I need you to understand me. I can't be misunderstood.

No, I get it. I get it. It's so frustrating. But also, I mean, well, yeah, I was going to make a, I made a post years ago. And it's like me sitting down. I was literally, I think that's during COVID. And I'm sitting down and I had, because it was a time when, I think Kendall was so thin. And this, like, photo of her, and I think it was Photoshop because she was like the longest, thinnest, whatever.

I mean, to know, a mad fret, and I was, like, sitting down, not being so thin, with my hand up. And she and I photoshopped her to, like, be in my hand. And it basically just said, like, other women's bodies and none of your business. And not to say, like, not to be critical, just to say, like, don't let her affect you. What she looks like is nothing to do with you. You don't need to include yourself in her narrative. Like, you're not in competition. It doesn't matter.

Anyway, I couldn't be fucked to do the same again yesterday because I was thinking about it. And I was just like, people are going to tell me that it is our business and people are going to bring up their business. and then they're going to say, well, right? Then they're going to go, oh, my God, the internet's gone mad. But I don't know if you saw in the comments, because so many people were like, you just love attacking the Kardashians, leave her alone, she's done nothing to you. And then other people were like, why aren't you attacking her? Why aren't you holding her responsible for setting these beauty sounds?

Why aren't you making everybody happy Alex? I was like, can you not, can you see this? Like, I can't win, leave me alone. I thought, I mean, ridiculously tiny waist aside. Yeah. She looked ridiculous. Like, she looked so good. That dress was on.

real. Like, art. I mean, not like she's so beautiful because she's thin. Like the cature, the art. Everyone, like, we didn't talk about it. Okay, can I say something? I don't know. There's probably goes against everything we talk about. I want to say something there's absolutely nothing to do with her body or the way she looked, but that cardigan was so bubbly. I didn't understand the cardigan except people were speculating that maybe the dress got damaged. I thought the card, and that was why she was. I thought maybe didn't zip up, yeah. Or like people were saying that maybe she had a lot of like back fat because of the core set. And that's, that's a good point. Yeah. But it was so bubbly.

I liked it. I loved that. I thought, good. A cardigan's back in. Good. I did like it, but I was confused. I was like, obviously it's supposed to be bobbyly because she wouldn't, like, she's like immaculate. Everything's so meticulous. She wouldn't have done that if it wasn't deliberate. But it was so bobbly. And I was like, my mom tells me off for wearing things like that. What have you got a lint roller? My mom tells me off for wearing things like that to the supermarket. Never mind on the red carpet. The red, Met. Met gala, red carpet. Can I ask, why did they do the met gala on me?

the stairs. None of those women can get upstairs in those dresses. They've all been carrying upstairs. What's her name? Tyler or something. She had they literally had to get carried. Just do it gentle slope. No, should we talk about the Met Gala some more? Oh, shall we? Okay, yeah. I like the John Paul Gautier inspired one that just like a body's. I mean, but she was so thin, but then we'll get her a hard time. I don't know. I never know who anyone is. I'm just, I like the outfits. M. Rata was pretty much naked. Oh my God, this is what I wanted to talk about.

First of all, I thought she looked fantastic. Like, dress was stunning. Yeah. Figures obviously ridiculous. But the Daily Mail ran, forgive me. Go on, of course they did. But it was just, it's so indicative of like the kind of place that we're at. And they've always done this.

You know, there's best, worst dress shit, which I hate. But it's just like, is this what we're reduced to? Like, these nearly naked starlets. Like, and they showed M. Rata, who looked like, It was, like, fashion art. Like, she looked unbelievable. Yeah. And Rita Aura, whose dress, I didn't, I didn't, I wouldn't have worn it?

I liked her makeup, Rita Aura. Yeah, that feels like you didn't like her dress. Didn't love her dress. I did like her makeup, though. I did like her makeup, but I thought I had it was quite cool. Yeah, no, she looked, I mean, yeah, it was, you know, this is the thing about fashion is it's so subjective. And I was so annoyed at this, like, oh, they were all nearly,

naked. I'm like, oh, fuck off. Leave a bee. Leave her be. Also, like, the red, what I keep saying? The red mat, the me, the mech gala red carpet. Like, you're supposed to be controversial. Yeah. It's supposed to be talked about. Yeah. You're not, it's not, like, the Oscars. You're not supposed to show up looking, like, pristine and pretty. I don't know. It's a theme. Yeah. It's a theme. It's fun. Like, you get to experiment and, like, go wild. Like, I would love to do that. Would you, though? No, probably not. I would be stuck. and we're like, what the fuck am I going to do? And I'd end up feeling ridiculous.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They'd like, take me home. I'm not getting out of the car. Yeah. To close a doctor. I'm not going to go, go, go, go, just drive by. Yeah, I don't know. I'm getting so annoyed and we are going to talk about the bear situation in Monday's episodes.

So hang in there. Man v. Man v. Man v. Man, or M versus man as it's like ended up. M and bear versus man. I hate to want myself to third person. That was so nodding.

Ew. E. E. E. E. E. me versus men anyway so many men

so annoyed at the Met Gala like these women like nearly like leave something to the imagination why? Was it a man writing that? Probably but it's always leave something to the imagination like why you're so attention seeking I'm like why she's not doing it for you

and why do you get these men have been buying porno since they were literally 11 years old they have coveted and sought out dreamt about imagined fantasised about naked women their whole lives

and it strikes me as really frightening that it seems to be only when it's on their terms that they can stand it because when these women are doing it for other women and for fashion and for empowerment they cannot fucking bear it and it's like is it because

in your little subconscious you are demeaning them and you are undermining them and you are thinking that you are somehow more powerful than them because you are able to sexualise them and when they sexualise themselves you can't bear it you get all stressed out because you're pathetic.

I love the idea that Emrodd is saying at home being like, I was going to wear that. But actually, that man's imagination, I've taken too much away from him and poor him. He's got nothing to imagine. Must cover up. Must do better. It's so farthing transparent.

I know. It makes you, it makes me a bit despairy that it's just like the men hate it, that women are joking. Everybody's judging everything all the time. I just, I thought it was. just really cool to look all the dress i love like i i love it's my favorite favorite red carpet and going through ticot when it's just like just loads of like fabulous young men like annihilating and appraising the looks and i i i'll love something and they'll just be like tragic and i'm like what

why and i don't understand it and i love it i love it and then when you like you think oh this one's really good and then they agree with you that this one's really good you're like oh get me like i'm a fashionista I know, exactly. Actually, you know what? They're not really annihilating it because I do feel like all the kind of like girls in the gays are kind of doing it with so much more warmth

and it's just like, love you honey, but this isn't your best work. I agree. And it's like we're not annihilating the woman. We're just, we don't love the look. We don't love the look. Yeah. And I like that we can separate.

And I do feel like the met's quite good for that. People are able to separate the person from the look. But again, I feel like it's people not necessarily, like the people are turning, aren't trying to look like their best. Yeah. Like another red carpet. it like they're trying to get people talking it's supposed to be like a talking point so it

doesn't matter that it's like that some people don't like the looks but yeah it was do you think do you think him did take a rib out no probably not probably not probably not i don't know she's so fucking thin bless her it's a lot like it's a lot thin i would be really interested to know that like if i could find a corseter like what what is actually capable of Do you know what I mean? Because I do think like genuinely where are her organs there? I don't know. That's what I mean.

I don't know anatomy very well but like in that part there Got kidney which is huge Two of them. But they're further down right? They're on the back They're in your back. You've got your livers.

You've got your appendix. You've got your heart No, hearts further up. Hearts further up. Stomach. And your intestine And you know if you roll out your intestine It goes like the length of the country

or something deranged World, I thought. No, no. I thought I'd exaggerated. Should I see what it is quickly? Right. If your intestines went around the world, you'd be enormous. Rolled out.

Did you think? You'd be the slice of the building. Intestines laid out size of what? You'd be so small. Oh my God. Listen to this. Oh, I'm embarrassed of both of us. Mainly me, but both of us also.

Right, the total surface air of your intestine is about half the size of a badminton court. Oh my God, it's nothing. That's pathetic. Did you say country? You said what? That's way further. Shame on us. The badminton court's fucking tiny.

Does a badminton court even half another side? It's 15 foot in length. That's like two people. No, I distinctly remember. a school assembly where somebody said the length of the country and it was a teacher i heard the world once like maybe okay well that's embarrassing fails okay so she probably could have fit her intestines in there if it was only the size of a badminton or i knew that we were only going to get through one of these emails today and i'm so annoyed because there are so many good ones

i thought it was really interesting because all the i think the comments said the comments on the original post so obviously we did the episode and then we made a trailer and obviously the trailers never tell the full story. So we actually, I don't know, the emails were amazing because it's kind of all the context. But I think it is interesting. And I think overwhelmingly people felt that we do have a, we don't have a response. We have a responsibility to be happy and we don't know anybody anything. But that, that basically everyone would unfollow you, Alex, if you started to lose weight. And they'd all be very disappointed and you'd be allowed to be. Definitely. I actually think this email sends up quite well. If we, let's

finish it off with some emails because I think, um, we, um, we, um, we'd be very disappointed. Um, we'd clearly don't have a fucking clue what we're talking about with our intestines. I think this one is good. Right. Documenting a weight change, particularly with a focus on loss, rather than continuing to promote loving your body, means the rhetoric is shifted. And it would seem it's shifted into something that we've already identified can be problematic. As a community of women, I think we've been coming to an agreement that loving our bodies and aiming for physical, emotional and mental health. Love that. It's so much more important than focusing on the way we look. Yes. Bravo. So if someone,

chooses to regularly run for the next six months perhaps for a race or because it's summer which affects the way their body looks or chooses to run less for the next six months to focus more on yoga and mindfulness perhaps during the winter or because they can go with a friend this also affects the way they look their body looks or chooses to eat healthily or chooses to eat out every night of the week or has a week off work to lay in the sun and drink cocktails or takes a weekend to lie in bed or quite literally any multitude of things that could affect the way she looks then it would be great if the focus was on how she loves her body mind for being able to support her in doing these things and perhaps not the impact it's having on the way she looks on her weight. I love that woman.

I love the way she's spoken. I just feel like she really celebrates all of her friends. I bet you she's, but yeah. But I feel like she's really happy for all of her friends. Yeah. I bet you she's a really good friend. Like I just, yeah. I have no doubt. Like the kind of saying they're about like having a week off and I'm like, I want to be your friend. I want to go to to yoga with you. I want to go running with you. Yeah. I just want to be your friend. She finishes off. What do you guys think? I hope it doesn't sound like policing what people do, but more about continuing to promote loving our bodies and choices

without having to comment on the effect that it has on the way we look slash our weight. I actually really agree. I have one friend, and she means so well by it, but if I ever say anything to her about my body, or anyone makes any passing, and it's always been this way. You made any passing comment about whatever. And she immediately cuts it down. No, no, you don't need to do that.

You don't need to do that. Why do you need to do that? And I get the intention is really, really positive. But actually, it sounds like what that girl's doing and what I'm hoping that we're able to do more of is, give space for people's feelings within their bodies and within because you don't it I don't know I think that's that can feel like kind of a difficult situation where you maybe you want to say like I feel a bit insecure I feel I feel like I don't look my best in this outfit or I feel like whatever it is

and then you get the kind of like no you look great you or as I mean I see um I've seen so many videos of like plus size women who say this happens all the time where they say I feel fat and people go you're beautiful you look beautiful right yeah as if the two things and I just I don't know I found I think that email and something that I'm seeing in this conversation is great it's a lot of like compassion towards people's wants for their bodies which as we talked about the first yeah you're completely entitled to and I guess just having a like just having a more neutral approach to people's bodies yeah your friend's bodies and stuff and just I just just not giving a shit about the way they look yeah and giving them space to give a shit though yeah

yeah yeah yeah you'd have to give a shit but you Yeah. It's nice to give them space to give a shit if they need to. Yeah. Like, yeah, I think that's it. Because if you, if you always shoot the conversation, which I get, it's really difficult because it's, it's, you don't want to be indulging it all the time. Go, okay, yeah, what are we doing? Like, are we going to, you know?

Yeah. But then I guess also allowing them to, like, talk about how they feel shit without necessarily encouraging them to, like, do something to, like, do something. Yeah. Be like, well, why don't we go to the gym? Like, no, not all that stuff. No. Just be like, okay, you feel shit. Like, let's talk about it.

Would you like to do something that makes you feel happier? Yeah. Would you like to go and do something? Yeah. How can we cheer you up? Yeah. How can we get you feeling good today? Yeah.

What can we do that's got nothing to do with your body? Let's go find a waltzer. I would love someone to take me on a waltzer when I felt sad. Me too. Wouldn't that be such a good? Yeah. A slow one, but yeah. Don't. Although my worst nightmares genuinely, you know when people come and they spin it?

I'm like, what happens if I come unconnected and I just dong, dong, dong, do you're like a skimming across the fairground. I take out those people and they all die. Instant death. I don't think so. I'd skim. I'd be fine, but I'd kill so many. But I'd kill so many people on the way.

I know. I think about it. It's my interest thought every time I'm wondering about it. That's why you need a slow one. And then you can just like come to a very slow. Like a teacup. Do stop. Then you're fine.

Last one, very quickly. Hi girls. After listening to your episode on where the body positive influence have the right to switch it up and broadcast their weight loss, I thought I'd weigh in. Pardon the pun. For me it comes down to yes, they have a right to do that whilst also accepting that the followers have a right to be disappointed and or and follow them. No one owes anybody anything so people should be allowed to do what they want with their own life.

This isn't me saying. that they should be open to being ridiculed, but the individual would have to accept that the following they've built, based on the opposite notion, will not agree. I agree that I feel that it's morally wrong, but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't do what they want to do. It's their life. Yeah.

I agree. And we all have different morals. I think that's where we land, isn't it? I think that's pretty much where we land. Yeah. But we're also deranged and entitled, to be honest, that I don't know if it's where, like, it's where we land in theory, but I don't know if it's where, it's like where we want to land, but then... Yeah. I don't know. I think it's something we actually need to actively try and do like I think

you know within implementing sort of like our self-love journeys and all of this complexity into our lives I actually feel like it's like a considerable effort like we have to 100% put into it. It's no good just like yeah yeah yeah I'm just chill and we talk about this stuff so much day in like week in week out we talk about this stuff and I uncover like a million blind spots in my like all the time that I'm like rolling my eyes at people and I'm like wait hang on yeah

like why am I rolling my eyes at them like I don't know we just I agree with you that this is like an ongoing thing where we have to be very conscious I think conscious about it yeah but in theory yes that's where we land as a physiological um trait I think the fact that humans have blind spots literally speaking not metaphorically is incredibly dangerous and I don't understand it Like when we're driving, we have blind spots. We shouldn't have those. I have a question. Evolutionarily, we should have them.

Scared to ask this because, okay, do you check your blind spot on the motorway before you change lanes? As in, do you turn behind you? Okay. No comment. Because I do, that's how I was taught, that you have to physically turn your head around and check that there's no one in your blind spot. Yeah. That's how I was taught. But Dave, okay, he's a bit older than me, but not that much older.

So he was taught that doing that is actually dangerous. Okay, so good. What's the answer? Okay, so I don't, but my car has a sensor for when there's something in your blind spot. That's clever. I know. I don't trust it completely, because I think I'd be a fool to trust it completely. Never trust anyone.

Never trust anything completely, apart from my husband, because I can't bother not to. Sounds like a lot of effort, being jealous. I was like, I'm aiming right now. But the, when it flashes orange, to say car bear, then I don't pull out obviously and then I wait and I keep checking my mirror I don't turn my whole neck I don't turn my whole neck

I just keep checking the mirror at both mirrors until it's safe do you know what there are this sounds like a humble brag but there are thousands of people listening to this that's such a brag but there's got to be a driving instructor in there

I don't want to know if I'm doing it wrong please can you write in if you're a driving instructor and you're like fully qualified I don't know and up to date with your knowledge and let us know what is the actual real answer thanks okay we're ready to go Okay. Well, this has been, oh, I'm loving these topical as it just means. Me too. I hope you guys are too. We'd love suggestions. Yeah. Honestly, anything that is coming up, we just as a general rule, so you know our schedule, we do these on a Wednesday. So if there's stuff happening, DM a send it to the pod, emails at should I delete that? Find us on Instagram, should I delete that? And send us kind of, if there's anything topical that you want us to discuss, if you've got any feedback from today's episode, only positive, please, unless it's about my blind spot, in which case, fair enough.

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