Should I Delete That? - Three Peaks World Record

Episode Date: June 23, 2024

This week on the podcast, Em and Alex are joined by world record holder Imogen Boddy! Imogen tackled the 3 Peaks Challenge, but not only that, she ran between every climb and became the fast woman to ...ever complete it. Over the gruelling six days, five hours and forty-three minutes, Imogen had to combat exhaustion, extreme sleep deprivation and unbelievable swelling. She shares what inspired her to give it a go, and how exactly she managed it.Follow Imogen on Instagram @imoboddyFollow us on Instagram @shouldideletethatEmail us at shouldideletethatpod@gmail.comEdited by Daisy GrantMusic by Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I was so focused on the goal that I actually, like, people said to me, how I said to me since, like, what do you think about? And honestly, I thought about nothing. It was like, my mind was so blank. I was so exhausted. I actually, like, I can't put into words how it was awesome as I was and how broken I was. Hello, and welcome back to Should I Delete That? I'm Alex Light.
Starting point is 00:00:28 And don't know why, but it's Dave. media again, isn't it? Um, is away. Amazon holiday. They're, um, they've gone to Dublin for the week. So, I mean, sorry, I went blank. Genuinely, you're supposed to be the professional here. So, and you just leave the port. Am I supposed to fill that noise?
Starting point is 00:00:51 Sorry, no, you're not. I can't concentrate because this is so disgusting, but I'm covered in sick. Not my own. Not mine. Not days. Tommy's, obviously. I'm covered in sick and I stink It really smells bad The immediate question The audience will be thinking is Well why haven't you got out of your top
Starting point is 00:01:08 Honestly good question And I can honestly say It's one of the most minging tops I've ever seen anyway Why? It's a black t-shirt It should have died about 10 years ago But anyway
Starting point is 00:01:21 I stink And it's just it's He does have a habit So before he goes to bed in his feed. Al does that and then I do bedtime and for whatever reason he decides to vomit over your whatever you're wearing. It's so disgusting. Anyway, that can be my bad. Good bad and awkward. So good bad and the awkward. You're going to start as you always because I am so well prepared. I've got some absolute killer stories that I need to think of
Starting point is 00:01:54 and I will think of them as you speak. One of my goods is that you just went to the show. because we needed washing up liquid and you like a good boy brought me back a treat yeah candy kittens uh there are other brands available uh eat and mess i never sure which ones you like are they the right ones i would i would prefer a solid fruit one rather than the creak i don't think they do them though solid fruit one like an apple yeah like an apple like a rosby flavor or a strawberry flavor and not eat a mess because then that's like creamy you'd like eating mess desserts no yes well there's my logic so okay my real good is that my real good is that i think i might be on the path to a new career i might be on a new career path go on an email let's come through
Starting point is 00:02:44 hi alex i'm reaching out to a handful of creators who we'd love to help create their first or even next cookbook shut up the idea is shut up The idea is that we help take your existing recipes and turn them into bespoke cut books that you are proud to call your own. Then you can sell the book via social media. I think Hello Fresh would have some copyright infringement because they're your recipes.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Take your recipe. You don't have a recipe, apart from that, tuna slop. Have I talked about tuna slop before on this show? Probably, I think so. Yes. So Al has one dish. And I remember when we were reasonably early in dating, she cooked it for me and it you know in the largest frying pan you've ever seen and it was like a
Starting point is 00:03:33 mountain of absolute shite honestly so much soy sauce tuna cream and just saying those three Philadelphia Philadelphia those three ingredients together should never be in a pan together but Al goes but wow it works it was atrocious and it's never been cut again thank God but yeah so apart from that obviously king recipe what would be the highlight of your cookbook I will lead with Tuna Slop. And knowing the way Al cooks, the instructions will go 1, 2, 3, 4, but the best bit about it is it's a bit like a cryptic crossword. You kind of have to guess the missing steps.
Starting point is 00:04:12 See, this shows how little. Because what you'll end up with on the plate is absolutely the wrong thing because it won't have been cooked, drain. I went down last night or the other night, and Al has taken to doing the meal while I put Tommy down, and that's very kind of her, following a very simple set of instructions. I come down and I think there's six steps and I asked her, have you done this? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Have you done that? No. And I said, yeah, but you've done that. So you should have done that. And she goes, oh, no. So out of the six steps, she'd missed three. And I was sat there going, what are we about to eat? Did it taste nice, though?
Starting point is 00:04:49 Once you rectified in mistakes. Yes, it tastes lovely. Okay. Moving on. So you think that's going to be. So yes. new direction for me and my career you're all welcome i'm sure nijella is quaking in her boots i think she might be good you're good because there anything to match that i don't think so um well no i haven't
Starting point is 00:05:10 received an email um my good um so as my um most of my days center around our young child um and that's not betty that's tommy um he the good is that he is that he is that he is that he is is now starting to hold up his rather sizable bonts. He's got a big head. He's got a rather large slab head. And he's started to be able to control it for quite an amount of time. So I guess that's my day to day at the moment. So that is my highlight that he's starting to get head control.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Still haven't got the rolling down pat, but we've got all the individual parts. We think he actually, he looks like he's crawling before he's rolling, which is a bit strange. These are all the parts, but not in the, not necessarily in the right order and for no one who's listening
Starting point is 00:06:03 because they are all below the age of 40. That is a very famous Morgan Wise joke that I told Al and she had no idea who I was talking about, but look it up. So that was my good, a rather wholesome good actually. Oh, that's really sweet.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Our child is developing under my tutelage. But yeah, in the wrong order, that, yeah, it's strange. He's got all the individual parts. You can see him do little bits, but he can't put them together in the right order. Anything bad for me?
Starting point is 00:06:32 So my bad and awkward is the same. I have, as probably has been discussing this podcast, very few friends. A select bunch of poor individuals that call themselves my friends. But I was actually out with a couple of them the other day with Tommy, and they haven't seen Tommy for a while.
Starting point is 00:06:55 And Tommy decided it was about time that he let rip all over one of my friends. And it was a double barrel rear end and front end. And it was everywhere. Went on their jeans, all the rest of it. So that was, you know, I haven't seen them for a while. That was bad. But it was incredibly awkward because he stank a shit for. That is really bad because he's on this, he's on like special formula as well.
Starting point is 00:07:24 and his poo does smell like you know that poo shouldn't smell until they start eating solids but no no his poo is pretty bad gross so that's my awkward it suggests with what I've just said
Starting point is 00:07:37 that my life is fairly Tommy central at the moment which it is to be honest there's other things going on but not much some say I need to get out more some weather
Starting point is 00:07:50 isn't Gales to get a pan of chocolate I swear you do that once a day three or four times a week and I just want to clarify on the pan of chocolate I've had this discussion with our pan of chocolate croissant light fluffy airy
Starting point is 00:08:05 as a pastry from a French esque bakery bakery should be Al tends to go for this horribly dense almond croissant that quite frankly ends up not being a croissant and just becomes like a thick pastry and it's not very nice
Starting point is 00:08:20 oh the almond croissant from Gales is Unbelievable. It is. It's crusty. It's not a croissant. The croissant is light and airy. No, no, it's a croissant. It's just stuff added to the croissant, but fundamentally it's a croissant. It's absolutely gorgeous. We're going to move on to your awkward. My awkward. I saw someone put this up, right? I think millennials killed the I hate my spouse genre of humor. And honestly, I'm proud of us. This used to be like half of all jokes, right? And someone wrote underneath that, yes, it's not funny. it makes me concerned about their partner even long term piss taking is not good for the health of a relationship and that is a concern
Starting point is 00:09:01 because that's our love language so sorry is this so basically everyone should float through life not being able to take the piss out of anyone I mean can I be quite frank I mean I don't speak much
Starting point is 00:09:17 but if I can't do that I'm going to be a mute It's how we show our love for each other It's how I speak to your sisters Oh yeah And how they speak to you Right exactly I mean they've got so much
Starting point is 00:09:32 On them that I can talk about I mean why wouldn't I And it's not a physical attack It's not a verbal attack It's a verbal jousting And we don't We don't hate each other Pretend to hate each other
Starting point is 00:09:47 It is said in jest Yeah okay so no i mean i'm glad we've hashed that out frankly i think i'll i'll quit the world if that happens i mean what's what's the point do you want to know who we've got as a guest this week you'll be interested in this really interesting michel obama no on the podcast this week we have
Starting point is 00:10:06 on the podcast this week we have immobody who is the fastest female to complete the three peak challenge something i've actually always wanted to do Fuck off. What? You want to climb the three peaks? Do the three peak challenge?
Starting point is 00:10:25 Yeah. Okay, all the best. Are we talking three peaks in the UK? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I've done two of them, the only one of individually, I haven't done Ben, never. But a lot of my friends have done it for charity.
Starting point is 00:10:37 It's always something I've wanted to do. But she ran. She did it all together, Dave. She ran from peak to peak to peak. She covered 700 kilometres. Right, okay. So that trumps my friends who got lovely little show, did the walk and got a nice chauffeur-driven van down to the next one. So she ran, okay, interesting, that's slightly.
Starting point is 00:11:01 So I might retract my statement in terms of saying I want to do the three peaks in that fashion. And just to clarify, I spent most of my childhood in the late street and love everything outdoors and I died to be there back there all the time. But that's another story. but I don't want to run it No, no, no, she ran 700 kilometres, she barely slept You'll see, you'll see, you're about to hear this episode
Starting point is 00:11:27 It's absolutely fascinating Fascinating, she's a machine She's not human Well, she is, but she makes Us Meremortals Well, it is amazing what you can do I don't think I'll ever do that No, I don't think you, I don't think you
Starting point is 00:11:42 Well, good honour, I look forward to listening Hello, thank you so much for coming to speak to us on the back of a really cool world record setting challenge you have just become the fastest woman fastest female to complete the three peaks challenge how was that it was brutal yeah I feel like everyone says to me how was it and I'm honestly like the only world I can say is what was brutal you have my surprise it was absolutely brutal I get that yeah it was amazing and a reflection I have to be careful because I'm like it was amazing it was like I did have some amazing
Starting point is 00:12:18 moments, but it was absolutely brutal. Can you tell us, like, for people that don't know what the challenge is, like, I mean, I know it's kind of self-explanatory, but like what it entails? So the kind of like classic three peaks challenge is to do it by car. You do Ben Nevis, Scarfell and Snowden, and you drive in between, and you're doing 24 hours, which is kind of, yeah, the standard thing to do. I started in sea level in Scotland in Fort William, ran to Ben Nevis, summer to Ben Nevis, ran from Ben Nevis to Scarfell, Samminton to Scarfell, and, and he started to Scarfell. and then ran from Scarfell to Snowden and then finished sea level in Wales.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Canarvan. So for the context, you're like running through three countries? Yeah. Between three countries and then up the mountains. And you did it in five days. Did it in six days, five hours, 43 minutes. Where did you sleep?
Starting point is 00:13:07 So the first like three days, we luckily, our like end of the day as such was kind of at a kind of service station or whatever. So we had a three camp fans. we have quite a big crew and then I slept in the kind of service station that evening and then after day three it was just kind of sleeping in the camper
Starting point is 00:13:26 and catnapping whenever we could catnap, basically. So you're not even well-rested doing this crazy challenge? Oh my God, I honestly think for the whole thing I had about 60 an hour sleep. Oh my God. Oh, wow. Honestly, and your production for the content that surrounded this...
Starting point is 00:13:43 It was extraordinary. Look, I was watching this like I was watching. It was more exciting than watching a Formula One. It was like, oh my God, these videos were amazing. It was. I feel like I actually also didn't obviously know what was going on. So I had no idea kind of what everything looked like. Every time I had a down moment, I'd be like, oh, can I go on my phone and have like a look at the comments or whatever?
Starting point is 00:14:02 Because it were all so lovely. But I had no idea kind of, yeah, what people were saying or what we were produced. It was unreal. And like, whenever I shared it on my stories, because I was like, is everyone else watching this? Like, so many people were like, you have to get on the podcast. I was like, I'm going to try. But I just, like, your team as well, like, it's phenomenal because you were saying we, like,
Starting point is 00:14:25 so you did it by your set, like, you got the record because you did the whole thing, but how does that work with people like? So, in my God, it was such a week. And I said that, like, every day, so Chris, my coach said, like, every day, well, I said the other day, whenever we, like, had a break for kind of more than two hours, that would be kind of the start of a new day. And Chris was set a tone every day. And he'd be like, we're going to do gratitude, watch your gratitude.
Starting point is 00:14:45 And every day my gratitude was that. I was so grateful for like the team that I had because it was just like Chris didn't leave my but didn't leave my side the whole time whether he was on the bike or like on foot my dad bless him he was like key camp fan driver um mom like made all food food for us we had a physio who we actually didn't know until we arrived and I met him why she met him once but like properly got to know him during um and then Hannah who did all like posting on socials and then my boyfriend videographer um so yeah I mean and we like everyone was needed Wow. Yeah, it felt like you watching it was like a team.
Starting point is 00:15:21 So, yeah, I mean, it was pretty tough for my parents, I think. But anyway. I can't imagine telling your mum you were doing that. I know. She'd be like, go, I don't care. I can't even get involved in this. My mom would love it. She'd want to do it.
Starting point is 00:15:38 And to be fair, there were a moment that mom and dad did love it. And actually for the first, like, three days, they weren't sleeping. They were so excited. And then you could just slowly, we were like, who's going to go first? who's going to go first and you can slowly see them getting like tighter and tighter losing the enthusiasm
Starting point is 00:15:53 but anyway when you set off to do it you were hoping to set the world records yeah so that was a bit of a awkward one basically we started and the whole point was we wanted to honour this lady called Anne Sayer
Starting point is 00:16:06 and she held the like world record for it both male and female and obviously being like females obviously massive like building up the kind of base in the endurance world or whatever we were like Anseya whatever Anyway, long story short, someone came to us when we were in the late district and said to Chris, my coach, we found this man called Arthur who is the fastest, who actually is the fastest man, like fastest person, but there was like nothing on him, no one will you do anything on him, like kind of basically just let us know. And then Chris and the crew had like a meeting that evening when I went to bed and they were like, are we going to tell him oh, like I was quite close to his record. his record was five days something yeah it was like nearly six days and laws was nearly like
Starting point is 00:16:50 exactly it was super close so they were like are we going to tell her in case she wants to break arthur's record or we're going to stick to anne's record anyway the conclusion was they told me and i was like i set out to break anne's record i didn't set out to break arthur's he's he's just new to the scene um so i wasn't bothered and we kind of kept doing what i wanted to do but um and kept breaking that kept going for anne's the year was a bit of a plot twist oh that is a plot especially when you're there and like doing it you didn't you needed to be like more prepared I know and Chris I could tell was like pushing me and pushing me wanting me to go for Arthur's yeah I didn't not kind of they didn't say anything verbally but physically he
Starting point is 00:17:26 was like come on um but I was like no like because seven out to take seven out is off it's quite big yeah we didn't anyway in the last day anyway we went through the night so like that was the kind of like we that was the kind of aim to try and do it and actually I need more sleep so yeah like we didn't god it's amazing I don't know how you did it can you tell us how you came to like do this stuff like how's this so I've always been really sporty I always loved sports didn't do A levels did a B tech so had a little bit more time at school to kind of do sport and do kind of that rather than study and then a lady came to my school my last year and she was so inspiring and she was like I want you she'd done the arched
Starting point is 00:18:11 and I was like I won't do the archduarque and at the age of 17 I was like okay let's like cool goal but let's kind of tape a bit down at it so I ended up doing a challenge when I was at school which was a 10k lake swim a marathon and then like a 30-mile bike car I was basically back from late winter mayor which is where I was a 10-k swim yeah and I was saying before we started this podcast I hate water so that was like the biggest thing for me right so yeah and that was the kind of start of it and that's kind of how I went for it and then I became personal trainer, didn't go to university, and then it's been stepping stones to running the UK two years ago, and then three peaks this year. Did you have climbing experience? No, but the peaks
Starting point is 00:18:52 are quite like, apart from Nevis, Ben Nevis is quite mountainous, but it's like, that's the one that you'd actually be like, that's the mountain. I'm tired just talking to you. Is the running from mountain to mountain the hardest bit, or is it climbing? No, the climbs are actually the easiest which sounds crazy but it was the it was and also we had the heat wave which was just like made the whole thing so much worse um we literally from starting in for william the sun literally followed us all the way the heat followed us all the way to can alvin how many kilometers is it from like i'm trying i'm trying to like put this into so the whole thing was 700 kilometers wow yeah and the actual mountains were probably they're probably in like 50k
Starting point is 00:19:37 worth of mountains not even wait so that was 700 kilometers of running Yeah, fucking hell. And a marathon's 40, right? Yeah, 42. Oh, shit, okay. Oh my God, okay. And you did all of this. Whoa, okay, I had not, that had not registered.
Starting point is 00:19:51 So it was like 16 marathes back to back basically. 16. Yeah. Oh my God. That's deranged. That like shits on like the marathon dissolves and stuff, doesn't it? The mountain de salves. Fucking hell.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Yeah. 16. You couldn't pay me enough. Honestly, if you arrived with a million pounds in cash, and said, keep going, bitch, after the first marathon, I'd be like, no. I guess you could do one. I was like, what the hell are I doing? I felt a lot of moments when I thought that.
Starting point is 00:20:20 I need to know about that. I need to know about your mindset. Like, I need to know how you, where you did. Like, how do you do that? How do you dig? You know what? It's funny. I think I was so focused on the goal that I actually, like,
Starting point is 00:20:29 people said to me, have said to me since, like, what do you think about? And honestly, I thought about nothing. There was, like, my mind was so blank. I was so exhausted. I actually, like, I can't put into words how it was awesome that I was. And how broken I was. I can't imagine I've been doing Joggle
Starting point is 00:20:42 two years ago genuinely it was like holiday in comparison to three peaks What's that? What's Joggle? So Joggle was John and Great's Land's End and that's when I ran 60K a day for 22 days
Starting point is 00:20:52 Um No cycle back I looked horrible But honestly it was like a holiday In comparison to three peaks I was prepared for it But I was not prepared for the It was the lack of sleep I think
Starting point is 00:21:02 I mean that's torturing in love itself Yeah I mean I've finished an hour And I look back and I was like Oh my God it was amazing But obviously at the time you're like like anything isn't it like any like whatever weight you're doing or challenge you're doing like you're gonna think at the time oh my god physically like did everything hurt or you've
Starting point is 00:21:17 yeah physically everything do you have blisters oh my god i can't put my phone out i'm my phone on me um my feet and i can't even explain how my feet were like i like i also i went from a so my general foot size is a five five and i put a size 10 and a half so long because my feet were swollen so bad away oh my god the poor things was just like what the fuck have you done to me hello oh my god i did a marathon i remember doing a road marathon like one of the days was like i did a road marathon in my coach's size 10 and the halfs and we're laughing we're like the time we're like how how are we doing so you were running and like yeah not your own shoes no i worked on which is amazing but obviously because i had to wear solomon trainers it was like we had to literally
Starting point is 00:22:02 get solomon to like bring like excess train like trainers to be able to be able to be make sure that I could like fit into a pair every time and I was like wearing another brand at one point and we were like can't wear that one got to get I was going to ask how you was it was it a sponsored event to fund it yeah it was but um I've been quite open about it since because a lot of brands didn't I like hadn't like I think social like on social media I'm like not I'm still not massive or anything but like I had quite a small following and I think so many brands because my following was quite small didn't like believe in me and really back it And actually, like, I've very much kind of from my coaching business had to fund a lot of the challenge myself, which I completely get as normal.
Starting point is 00:22:44 But equally, I think when you're doing to a challenge to the capacity that I was doing, you kind of would expect a little bit more brand support and whatever. That does feel like a shame because I would have, because I'm watching the production alone. I was like, this must be so expensive just to do. And so everybody, like your whole team to come. I assume that was going to be funded by a brand. A lot of, like, I did get some support, like, don't get me wrong, I just definitely had some support. And I worked at Solomon, which is really cool. But like, not to the kind of capacity as to how much these challenges cost, which is probably why I wouldn't do one or that.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Yeah, you think. Yeah. If you could secure funding for it, would you do them again? Potentially a couple of years. I want to focus on, it sounds ridiculous, but GB 24-hour running. What's hard? Literally running for 24 hours and seeing how far you can get. get and then if the i think the qualifying distance i'm going wrong is 250k in three four hours
Starting point is 00:23:39 to qualifying for what hell yeah for the world champs wow how many marisans is that 40 into i can't do that about five just just over five in 24 hours yeah you could do that hopefully oh my god so and then you'd qualify to go in the world championships yeah do you run to it for 24 hours oh my god so there's other people like you out there yeah You can find it. It's a good way of finding each other. Yeah, exactly. What do you love about the challenge, like, aspect?
Starting point is 00:24:11 Is it... Are you competitive, a competitive person? Yeah, super competitive. When it comes to this kind of thing, I actually am only competitive with myself. Someone said that in the other day, they're like, who are you competing against? And I actually...
Starting point is 00:24:22 And I don't... And it sounds ridiculous because I was going for a record. But it is just for myself, and it is just for my own satisfaction of kind of seeing what I can achieve. But yeah, I'm very competitive. And is it like pushing your body to the limits, is that? I think so.
Starting point is 00:24:37 I also do know, like, so there's a situation run three peaks. And we're running for 32 hours. We had the final 32 hours to go. And we made the decision not to stop for like a long period of time. We're going to catnap again. So I did two one hour catnaps. So basically getting, finishing my stint, getting in the camper, take my trains off, literally lying there in my like sweaty gym kit on the bottom bunk,
Starting point is 00:24:59 napping for an hour. Chris would then come in, like knock on the door. whatever they put my i couldn't even put my own trains on like they put my trains back on for me and i'd start moving and whatever and we'd repeat that twice and then josh a really good friend of mine came to it's poor and a girl called amy i think there was five of us and we were doing a 10 k story 10k stint like 2 a m we got like 4k in and i knew that all i wanted to do was have a nap and i said i basically broke down on the floor and i was like to chris please can you bring me the camper van i was like i need to have a nap. Anyway, at the time, Chris told me the campfire and couldn't come to me. I still,
Starting point is 00:25:34 we still don't know whether it could have come but anyway, it didn't come. And he was like, you can have a 10 minute power nap on the tarmac road or you can keep moving for another 5K and we'll like, you can have a nap of like after 5K. So obviously I was just like there on the floor being like like burst into tears and being like I've never been told. I imagine you guys never been told to have a 10 minute power nap on a tarmac road. Like I was going to do what the hell. So anyway, I then powered through and that for them. And that for At that point, I was definitely doing it for Chris. Like, it was, like, he had been by my side for power of 600 kilometres.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Like, all I could at least I could do was kind of keep moving for another 5K. But otherwise, I do just do it to see why I can achieve. I love it. Was that the hardest point? I don't love that, though. I didn't love that, but, yeah. Of the challenge? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:19 That sounds brilliant. Did you have any other moments like that? I had a lot of emotional moments. Yeah. The top of Scarfell was, like, a fast day afternoon in the late district. So, like, you could imagine it was so busy. and loads of people were supporting. So that was like more of like a kind of sense of overload,
Starting point is 00:26:34 happy emotion rather than a sad. I've never had, because ultra-running, I've only been doing it for like three years, kind of like dizziness and kind of like loss of sight and stuff. I never had that before. So that was, those moments were pretty horrible. But that on the floor was the, on the road was the darkest moment. I mean, yeah, like you say,
Starting point is 00:26:54 if you're having to contemplate taking a 10-minute nap on the road, I think if someone says that to me now I know that that's like what people do in alter running so it's a bit more normal so I'd be like okay fair let's have a 10 minute pound off on the road whereas at the time I was so tired
Starting point is 00:27:11 and this couldn't fathom couldn't get my head around having a 10 minute pan up on the road I mean it's not great did you shower I showered and were like in the evenings yeah I didn't for that 32 hour
Starting point is 00:27:24 it changed my clothes though I was going to have a shower but I was just like you know what waste of energy why bother, yeah well so I had heat I got heat stroke and so I kept my temperature gauge
Starting point is 00:27:35 was just like so out so I was just like you know what once I cooled down but the age of not but you're also only 24 yeah which is an insane age to be setting world records like this
Starting point is 00:27:49 like that's mad how do you feel like as a young woman doing these challenges like do you feel like you have a responsibility to crush it because you're a surprise to people or does that not come into it?
Starting point is 00:28:04 I'm quite stubborn and I've said a lot of brands and stuff haven't believed in me so there's an element of me being like actually I can do it and also you should believe in the nobody as such like you haven't just got to go for the person that, you know, has a social presence or already done something or whatever
Starting point is 00:28:19 I think actually just like that's something that I am kind of like I also have had like people say it in the past like you know you're going to get injured you're going to do X, Y, and Z, it's stupid, la, la, la. And I'm like, okay, well, equally, I do look after myself very well. I just kind of sacrifice, I say sacrifice, but I love doing it, so it's not really, but kind of do social things and whatever.
Starting point is 00:28:41 So I think it's kind of, yeah, in that sense, I kind of am like, stuff you to those people. But I don't feel pressures. I think I probably have more pressure now going into races. I think races, I have pressure and feel pressure. are you young to be doing this sort of thing ultra-rent a lot of people a lot of ultra-rens are a lot older
Starting point is 00:29:00 yeah I don't feel like that you don't you don't tend to see you see a lot of women in their 30s yeah completely and older people kind of in their prime with their older because Carla has the world
Starting point is 00:29:13 what's I said Carla Malarro she's got the juggle I'm the youngest female and she's the fastest female for joggle that's so cool yeah obviously you've got an appetite for like the challenge.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Are you like an adrenaline? Do you like seek that adrenaline high? Like would you do something more, is something like Everest or I guess where there's more like inherently more risk involved? No, completely no. No? Okay. I know.
Starting point is 00:29:40 I literally, and even, so when we were doing a reckey in Scotland the other week, a couple months ago, we drove for the Glencoe, which is like beautiful and there's like loads of kind of mountains and cliff, cliffs, whatever you call them. and people can obviously climb up them and la la la la and there's the mountain rescue teams
Starting point is 00:29:59 and honestly i have no desire to like climb those rocks and like climb those mountains or climb Everest i'm very much kind of i love ultra running i love trail running and don't wrong i love running up mountains but yeah no i'm happy and my like i like i like i enjoy skating but like i like wearing two feet and feeling control that's too risky for me skiing isn't no but we had benita nora on the podcast who is the youngest British woman to climb Everest but that was yeah I mean there is just
Starting point is 00:30:34 that I get I so get it because there is so much risk involved with that and I just can't get my it's incredible but like I can't get my head around that I just could never respect people that could yeah it's insane but not for you not for me I'm on my own two feet I like to be in control I like pushing myself on my own two feet but even bad weather like when we're at the top of Benever's
Starting point is 00:30:55 on our training week when my training weeks I was actually holding Chris's hand because it was so windy at the top and I was like, don't leave my side like I'm not, it's not for me at all. I get that.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Yeah. God, yes. You've become a little bit more relatable if you talk. Yeah. Only slightly. No, I am. I like to have a balance of everything.
Starting point is 00:31:15 I feel like my running is like isn't extremity but I do like a balance with a balance of life. Yeah. What was your highlight from the challenge beyond finishing it?
Starting point is 00:31:23 probably Scarfell when we were at the top and there was about 200 people up there and I had yeah a serious sense of overload but like I think one it was a good milestone we kind of I think we're like 400k in so it was like actually maybe we weren't quite that far
Starting point is 00:31:40 but we were a good like chunk in and yeah two it was just like another peeked down and the support was just amazing but the support generally throughout was like just incredible yeah um how much of it do you need like from other people and from external factors like instagram or like your coach and how much of it did you find within yourself like if you
Starting point is 00:32:03 hadn't had any support do you still think you'd have been able to do it yeah 100% but I would never like I actually was saying this during the challenge as well for me these like self-supported challenges once again isn't for me I love having a support team and like as much as the challenges it, it's awesome an adventure and when you come, like, when you're in this bubble with the team and it's just like the most amazing environment and everyone's going on so well obviously there's ups and downs, but like
Starting point is 00:32:30 everyone's going on so well and you're like a big family. I love that part of it and actually that is one of the key things for me and we all get on very well now and we're still and whatever. So that for me is just as much as kind of is. Did you have one kill them or punch them
Starting point is 00:32:47 or just hate them? When Chris told me to have my nap on the floor, That was quite a dark moment. That's not normal. But other than that, no one else annoyed me. That's so good. There was a moment with Chris, I was just like... Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:00 I always... My mum does loads of these challenges, and she was used to make me... Well, I mean, make me. I did a lot with her. I'd be horrible to her. I'd just be horrible. Because I'd make it all her fault. Whenever I found something difficult,
Starting point is 00:33:11 I didn't want to be introspective and blame myself. I wouldn't blame her, and I'd just be absolutely foul. Do you not have any of that? Do you not have any of that? Where you just like... My boyfriend, bless him, he didn't... He ran with me quite a bit. but like not that much i remember saying comment to him like you're not running that far
Starting point is 00:33:24 and he was like brilliant he was taking photos and like he was obviously like part of the crew like doing an amazing job and i was like you're not running that much and he was gay noted but it must be hard for them to like keep up with you right i mean there were moments that i was going really slow okay so like no they definitely could have kept up with me okay but i bet you're really slow is probably not really slow yeah well with them reason I don't know if we have kept up with you I don't think so I don't think so
Starting point is 00:33:54 but no other than that not many towards the end to be fair Chris and I went and we were together and we were like God's sake
Starting point is 00:34:03 can we just have someone else come join us not external people we wanted the internal crew to come we had one man that came from basically
Starting point is 00:34:11 when you're like and obviously so tired and such like I was very emotional particularly at the start of the mornings and one man turned up and it was
Starting point is 00:34:20 so sweet and obviously it was like came from the goodness of his heart but like it just wasn't really the vibe and also because i was going so slowly 10k would take a lot longer than kind of usual so he kind of i think he wanted to do like 20k of us and actually that was going to be like a good couple of hours like good a few hours kind of running and it just wasn't really you know you don't want to be making conversation yeah yeah so we did Christmas and actually you had to tell him to to to leave just because it was like wasn't really the vibe like obviously he came to like he meant well but Yeah. Oh, you do not want to be making conversation.
Starting point is 00:34:53 It's like small talk when you're tired. It just isn't... No. What are we doing? You said you're emotional in the mornings. Is that like... The thing is this is because I knew I had so long, like so far to go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:05 And it'd be like, oh, another day of like... This. Yeah. Yeah. Did you regret signing up for it at any point? No. No. There was one moment that one of my best friends came.
Starting point is 00:35:16 She also came to joggle. And she's like, why on after you do this? She was like, if joggle. now this she was like you're gonna do it again I was like never how many times do you think you cried
Starting point is 00:35:25 oh my god so many times I definitely cried more than anything there were a few moments and I was hilariously laughing I think crying five or six times a day that's about right for you
Starting point is 00:35:40 that sounds normal yeah well nothing to worry about that this is an average day all good all good yeah no I do not blame you that's yeah
Starting point is 00:35:48 I would say that's probably about right What do your days look like normal days when you're not doing? Like, now you're home? What do you do? Like, try to be that fit to maintain that fitness? Well, for the first two weeks, I didn't really get out of bed when I finished. I had hot sweats, like, can't even, can't even explain. I had to change my bedchies, obviously, every night.
Starting point is 00:36:09 I literally woke up, like, wet and pulled the sweat. So that doesn't sound great. But it's your body, it's your body just like, and over, like, right now I'm like exactly a month a day ago. A month ago today, I finished. And touch wood, I'm very lucky that I'm, like, completely back to normal. I've got a slightly quickie voice, but I did go on holiday last week and have quite a big week of partying. Good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:33 So that's probably why. But yeah, I'm back to normal. So, but for the first two weeks, I had really hot sweats and nightmares. But, like, that was just kind of like. Oh, no. Yeah, nightmares are still running. Oh, no. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:46 That's horrible. Yeah. That's horrible. What about? Is it like a recurring one? It was just more like, Chris waking me up and like tapping or like just like completely reliving it. Oh God, it's like PTSD?
Starting point is 00:36:57 Yeah. From your own challenge. From the best time of your life. From my own self-inflicted challenge. Yeah. But no, like it's like normal. Like it's very kind of like, you know, it's a normal thing to happen.
Starting point is 00:37:08 It's just your body in overdrive. And I'm very lucky that I have slept a lot and eaten a lot. And, you know, kind of nuts my body to get back to kind of good health. So like to try. for the GB 24-hour run do you just run low like do you have to run yeah I'm thinking I mean the reason why I want to do 24 hours because I have got a good base already um of just doing all this like so stupidly long stuff yeah um so but yeah it's just a lot of mileage and yeah
Starting point is 00:37:38 a lot of you too sleeping looking off yourself yeah I've been thinking that like how do you train you can't train for like the three people how can you train for that like there's no yeah just mileage but then I think it's kind of yeah just not you just have to spend literally a day running as training oh yeah I mean there be some days and I do a lot but I've got some time off the moment though like I'm chilling it's not some next year yeah I'm doing your PT stuff yeah my one coaching oh my god I bet your clients have I would never have an excuse to to bring you ever well I live a mind I'm fine I can do that actually they're actually like they're amazing but A lot of them, like, they're like, they just, yeah, they have all the excuses.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Wow. No, they don't. They're amazing. But, yeah, you, um, I feel like this is all relative. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah. And I'm also very, like, I'm well aware that, like, I am very lucky to have the time to train with kind of my coaching in a sense.
Starting point is 00:38:37 So it's all online. Yeah. And I, like, very much appreciate that not many people have the time to train that I do. And kind of, you know, you've got to fit it into life. And everyone has so much. many factors going on in their life. I mean, it is a career, like, to have to, my mom says this all the time, because she would do her iron man's, and then my husband would do them with her.
Starting point is 00:38:57 And it's like the difference in her training for an iron man as a retired person who does so much less within her day. She's like, yeah, I can go and cycle for like, you know, she does, she sort of still has elements of work, but it's so much more flexible. She's like, well, I can go on a Friday and cycle for 70 miles. So it's like, if Alex wants to do that, particularly now he's got a kid, it's like. Yeah, completely. It's almost impossible to fit, like, training for challenges like that.
Starting point is 00:39:21 And I don't think people perhaps appreciate that it's like, it's, like, career challenges. Yeah, completely. Like. Completely. Yeah. And actually, that's one thing that, like, even, like, influencers, I'm like, I think it's, like, you know, great what they do. And I completely get that a lot of people are incredibly busy as an influencer. But equally, the kind of people, the female, they know, not females, but the people that are training for, like, Iron Man or whatever, as a influencer, don't really wrong.
Starting point is 00:39:45 and was said they're very busy people but like you do have the time to trade in comparison well it's your job yeah if if you're training like for me when I did the marathon like train and I shared a lot of the marathon journey it's like well running the marathon was my job for a time like I was being sponsored by a brand to run the marathon so I can go for a run whilst I've got my childcare on Wednesday because it makes sense yeah which doesn't work for so many exactly other people and that's that's such a it's such an important recognition to hear, for people to hear you making. Oh my God, completely.
Starting point is 00:40:17 And that's like, I mean, none of my clients are influencers or my clients are, you know, 9 till 5s or whatever, like, hour you may, like, whatever they're like full time as such, kind of office workers, if that's what you can call it. And yeah, I mean, I completely, and I appreciate that I'm very aware that I'm lucky, but I would never ever put someone, like, expect someone to have to train or fit it in and you've got to fit your training around life. and obviously the training makes you feel so good
Starting point is 00:40:45 but equally there's so many factors in life yeah I mean this bleeds into like doesn't it everyday exercise right and it's like I don't know a lot of what we see online is like make the time like you can do it like have the time and it's actually like it's very hard for a lot of people to be able to
Starting point is 00:41:00 oh my god completely fit in exercise even for women who don't work and who have children oh yeah so hard because I think then like I see so much of this stuff I'm like PTs online like mum like PTs who are targeting women and it's like, well, you know, do it with the, do it with your child. And it's like, that is so not a sustainable option for people who don't have a agree like, yes, if you know the equipment and if you know what you can do within half an hour
Starting point is 00:41:24 safely with your child around, then like props to you that you can make it work. But for most people, that's really, really, really unrealistic. No, completely. And that's such a shame. Like, that's one of the biggest shortcomings of the, of like online PTs, I think. Because it is amazing how much more accessible exercise is becoming. and it's amazing how much free stuff there is, how much education people have access to,
Starting point is 00:41:46 but that pressure is wild, isn't it? Yeah, completely, completely. I'm sort of, even like me having since going, going back, I, like, have been, like, very busy with kind of, I've had taking some time off work, so I'm not now back into kind of properly working. And even me finding time to, like, fit in half an hour, I'm like, you know, so, like, I couldn't even imagine how, like,
Starting point is 00:42:08 you know, everyone else fits in. And I was talking to my friends last week, We were like, we were laughing. We were like lying around sunbeds and we're like, we're going to leave this holiday with not one stone unturned. We're going to discuss every single topic there is. And we're like, what are you doing next week? And we were all saying and we were like,
Starting point is 00:42:21 especially in summer when it's kind of things to be going on, they were like, yeah, I'm not sure I'm able to fit in kind of going for that run or going for that thing. And actually sometimes it does have to, as good as it makes you feel, it has got, you know, it doesn't fit in your schedule or whatever. Yeah, it's got to be put on the back burner. Exactly. That's fine sometimes.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Yeah, completely. In my case all the time. But, you know. No, exactly. But also, you might just be like, I don't know, I don't know if you are, but you might just like, even just like walking and getting your steps in or whatever is or equally as a beneficial, you know, walking somewhere rather than, you know, whatever. It's so much more doable. Exactly. Yeah, than doing the three peaks in one go.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Just a bit. A bit of a walk, yeah, like, just sounds a little bit more doable. Walk the shop, exactly. To be really, really cheesy and also to put you on the spot. spot so you don't have to answer this but is did you was there like a lesson that you like learned from the that challenge like from putting your body your body and your mind to such like you know pushing it to such extreme limits was there anything that you have like taken away from it from that challenge that will like stay with you i say two things actually one thing i suppose
Starting point is 00:43:36 It doesn't really actually relate to kind of everyday life because it's a completely different bubble. But when we were in that bubble, there was like some days when like it sounds rank, but I wouldn't brush my teeth because we were just kind of like not thinking about it. And or, you know, as I said, I was where my coach is 10 and a halfs. And all these little things actually sometimes, like those little things in life actually don't matter. And sometimes all you think about is just like getting from A to B and, you know, those luxuries or X, Y and Z or. That kind of thing actually doesn't matter. So I think I said that it probably doesn't relate
Starting point is 00:44:10 because it would be quite nice to wake up and wash my teeth if I can. But like, you know, I think you forget about those kind of things and you're in a bubble of just getting a job done. And actually, I loved that. So that's probably not the answer to question you asked, but that is something I liked. But I think one other thing, believe in yourself and just go for it. And actually I was so flattered, if that's the right word,
Starting point is 00:44:32 to how many people I inspired. And actually that wasn't the kind of, it's obviously always the mission because like I would love to inspire that that you know everyone's goal just to inspire but my mission and issue was just to get my just to get it done and actually I inspired so many people and actually so my thing now probably is just to kind of say go for it and believe in yourself because not many brands and people believed in me and I did do it yeah so and I've also been always been very stubborn and kind of have always been like you know do it and yeah
Starting point is 00:45:06 have you ever failed at anything you've tried yeah I think even like now like I didn't go to university and I um which was quite a big thing I mean I'm still young appreciate it but kind of like six years ago it was quite a big thing um and well from where I kind of am socially it was a big thing and I think that was at the time I actually felt it was a failure because I kind of was okay I was early money my friends weren't because I was kind of a PT but socially it was a bit of of a failure. And I think that for me, I think for me, that has been quite a struggle. I think I do love to go out and I do love to have a drink, X, Y, and Z. But my friends definitely forms stronger friendships in the past through kind of having a good time,
Starting point is 00:45:50 whereas I've been training or P-T or whatever. So I think that probably has been a failure as such for me socially. Yeah, it's kind of, it's worth it. And towards, I think even now, I am at the time, I'm like, when am I going to earn money as a 24-year-old and actually kind of earn proper money? I'm like, I'm just kind of doing all these random things. So I think that's a slight failure, but it's all paying off.
Starting point is 00:46:14 I think we've got much cooler things. Yeah, I think of that. Yeah, but you know when you think about those things and kind of... Of course. Yeah, but yeah, hopefully it'll all pay off and it's definitely kind of I only finished four weeks to go, so we'll see. But for me, like, the sucks out has kind of been through challenges and that's kind of where I go.
Starting point is 00:46:33 over there. Yeah, well I'm excited to see what you do now. I don't think that sounds like a failure. I think it sounds like you've just redirected your energy to make successes out of other things. Yeah. Well, let's see. Comparison will always get us, won't it? It's like the people, your peers are doing things that feel so different to you and that's always going to like create a stark contrast. But like you're doing like, I mean, you're just fucking 700 kilometers. People do say that. People do say that they're like, oh, it's amazing what you're doing. and always whenever you go to like whenever I do some of my friends and whatever they're like you know they're always like all people I haven't seen for a long time they're always very much kind of like what are you up to and then I'm like and what are you up to and they're like I'm working here or working there but I'm kind of like I think I'm not very good at registering success for this um I think it's always been something but well it sounds that you're always looking for the next thing so it doesn't sound that you probably stop for very long and take stock of your success yeah from where we're sick it's pretty cool you know that girls it's pretty cool you're my head
Starting point is 00:47:33 ladies. You've absolutely crushed it. It's been so cool to watch. And we're so grateful that you came to speak to us. Oh no. Thank you. So cool. I can't wait to see what you do next. Gosh. Yeah, that 24 hour running. That's fucking awful. Awful. I don't, honestly, I can't look at anything I'd want to do for 24 hours on the trot. I'm already tired for you. That's a lot. I'm definitely doing some time off a moment. For sure. Enjoy your time off. Well done. And yeah, I'm excited to see what you do next. Thanks so much, thank you. Thank you. Should I delete that is part of the ACAS creator network.

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