Should I Delete That? - Three Peaks World Record
Episode Date: June 23, 2024This week on the podcast, Em and Alex are joined by world record holder Imogen Boddy! Imogen tackled the 3 Peaks Challenge, but not only that, she ran between every climb and became the fast woman to ...ever complete it. Over the gruelling six days, five hours and forty-three minutes, Imogen had to combat exhaustion, extreme sleep deprivation and unbelievable swelling. She shares what inspired her to give it a go, and how exactly she managed it.Follow Imogen on Instagram @imoboddyFollow us on Instagram @shouldideletethatEmail us at shouldideletethatpod@gmail.comEdited by Daisy GrantMusic by Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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I was so focused on the goal that I actually, like, people said to me,
how I said to me since, like, what do you think about?
And honestly, I thought about nothing.
It was like, my mind was so blank.
I was so exhausted.
I actually, like, I can't put into words how it was awesome as I was and how broken I was.
Hello, and welcome back to Should I Delete That?
I'm Alex Light.
And don't know why, but it's Dave.
media again, isn't it?
Um, is away.
Amazon holiday. They're, um, they've gone to Dublin for the week.
So, I mean, sorry, I went blank.
Genuinely, you're supposed to be the professional here.
So, and you just leave the port.
Am I supposed to fill that noise?
Sorry, no, you're not. I can't concentrate because this is so disgusting, but I'm
covered in sick. Not my own. Not mine.
Not days. Tommy's, obviously.
I'm covered in sick and I stink
It really smells bad
The immediate question
The audience will be thinking is
Well why haven't you got out of your top
Honestly good question
And I can honestly say
It's one of the most minging tops
I've ever seen anyway
Why?
It's a black t-shirt
It should have died about 10 years ago
But anyway
I stink
And it's just it's
He does have a habit
So before he goes to bed
in his feed. Al does that and then I do bedtime and for whatever reason he decides to
vomit over your whatever you're wearing. It's so disgusting. Anyway, that can be my bad.
Good bad and awkward. So good bad and the awkward. You're going to start as you always
because I am so well prepared. I've got some absolute killer stories that I need to think of
and I will think of them as you speak. One of my goods is that you just went to the show.
because we needed washing up liquid and you like a good boy brought me back a treat yeah
candy kittens uh there are other brands available uh eat and mess i never sure which ones you like
are they the right ones i would i would prefer a solid fruit one rather than the creak i don't think
they do them though solid fruit one like an apple yeah like an apple like a rosby flavor or a strawberry
flavor and not eat a mess because then that's like creamy you'd like eating mess desserts no yes
well there's my logic so okay my real good is that my real good is that i think i might be on
the path to a new career i might be on a new career path go on an email let's come through
hi alex i'm reaching out to a handful of creators who we'd love to help create their first or
even next cookbook shut up the idea is shut up
The idea is that we help take your existing recipes
and turn them into bespoke cut books
that you are proud to call your own.
Then you can sell the book via social media.
I think Hello Fresh would have some copyright infringement
because they're your recipes.
Take your recipe.
You don't have a recipe, apart from that, tuna slop.
Have I talked about tuna slop before on this show?
Probably, I think so.
Yes.
So Al has one dish.
And I remember when we were reasonably early in dating,
she cooked it for me and it you know in the largest frying pan you've ever seen and it was like a
mountain of absolute shite honestly so much soy sauce tuna cream and just saying those three
Philadelphia Philadelphia those three ingredients together should never be in a pan together
but Al goes but wow it works it was atrocious and it's never been cut again thank God
but yeah so apart from that obviously king recipe what would be the highlight of your cookbook
I will lead with Tuna Slop.
And knowing the way Al cooks, the instructions will go 1, 2, 3, 4,
but the best bit about it is it's a bit like a cryptic crossword.
You kind of have to guess the missing steps.
See, this shows how little.
Because what you'll end up with on the plate is absolutely the wrong thing
because it won't have been cooked, drain.
I went down last night or the other night,
and Al has taken to doing the meal while I put Tommy down,
and that's very kind of her, following a very simple set of instructions.
I come down and I think there's six steps and I asked her, have you done this?
Oh, no.
Have you done that?
No.
And I said, yeah, but you've done that.
So you should have done that.
And she goes, oh, no.
So out of the six steps, she'd missed three.
And I was sat there going, what are we about to eat?
Did it taste nice, though?
Once you rectified in mistakes.
Yes, it tastes lovely.
Okay.
Moving on.
So you think that's going to be.
So yes.
new direction for me and my career you're all welcome i'm sure nijella is quaking in her boots i think she
might be good you're good because there anything to match that i don't think so um well no i haven't
received an email um my good um so as my um most of my days center around our young child um
and that's not betty that's tommy um he the good is that he is that he is that he is that he is
is now starting to hold up his rather sizable bonts.
He's got a big head.
He's got a rather large slab head.
And he's started to be able to control it for quite an amount of time.
So I guess that's my day to day at the moment.
So that is my highlight that he's starting to get head control.
Still haven't got the rolling down pat,
but we've got all the individual parts.
We think he actually, he looks like he's crawling before he's rolling,
which is a bit strange.
These are all the parts,
but not in the,
not necessarily in the right order
and for no one who's listening
because they are all below the age of 40.
That is a very famous
Morgan Wise joke that I told Al
and she had no idea who I was talking about,
but look it up.
So that was my good,
a rather wholesome good actually.
Oh, that's really sweet.
Our child is developing
under my tutelage.
But yeah, in the wrong order,
that, yeah, it's strange.
He's got all the individual parts.
You can see him do little bits,
but he can't put them together in the right order.
Anything bad for me?
So my bad and awkward is the same.
I have, as probably has been discussing this podcast,
very few friends.
A select bunch of poor individuals
that call themselves my friends.
But I was actually out with a couple of them the other day
with Tommy,
and they haven't seen Tommy for a while.
And Tommy decided it was about time that he let rip all over one of my friends.
And it was a double barrel rear end and front end.
And it was everywhere.
Went on their jeans, all the rest of it.
So that was, you know, I haven't seen them for a while.
That was bad.
But it was incredibly awkward because he stank a shit for.
That is really bad because he's on this, he's on like special formula as well.
and his poo does smell
like you know that
poo shouldn't smell
until they start eating solids
but no no his poo is pretty bad
gross
so that's my awkward
it suggests with what I've just said
that my life is
fairly
Tommy central at the moment
which it is to be honest
there's other things going on
but not much
some say I need to get out more
some weather
isn't Gales to get a pan of chocolate
I swear you do that once a day
three or four times a week
and I just want to
clarify on the pan of chocolate
I've had this discussion with our
pan of chocolate croissant
light fluffy airy
as a pastry from a French
esque
bakery bakery should be
Al tends to go for this horribly dense
almond croissant that
quite frankly ends up not being a croissant
and just becomes like a thick pastry
and it's not very nice
oh the almond croissant from Gales is
Unbelievable. It is. It's crusty. It's not a croissant. The croissant is light and airy.
No, no, it's a croissant. It's just stuff added to the croissant, but fundamentally it's a croissant. It's absolutely gorgeous.
We're going to move on to your awkward. My awkward. I saw someone put this up, right? I think millennials killed the I hate my spouse genre of humor. And honestly, I'm proud of us. This used to be like half of all jokes, right? And someone wrote underneath that, yes, it's not funny.
it makes me concerned about their partner
even long term piss taking
is not good for the health of a relationship
and that is a concern
because that's our love language
so sorry is this
so basically everyone
should float through life
not being able to take the piss out of anyone
I mean
can I be quite frank
I mean I don't speak much
but if I can't do that
I'm going to be a mute
It's how we show our love for each other
It's how I speak to your sisters
Oh yeah
And how they speak to you
Right exactly
I mean they've got so much
On them that I can talk about
I mean why wouldn't I
And it's not a physical attack
It's not a verbal attack
It's a verbal jousting
And we don't
We don't hate each other
Pretend to hate each other
It is said in jest
Yeah okay
so no i mean
i'm glad we've hashed that out frankly i think i'll i'll quit the world if that happens i mean
what's what's the point
do you want to know who we've got as a guest this week
you'll be interested in this really interesting michel obama no
on the podcast this week we have
on the podcast this week we have immobody
who is the fastest
female to complete the three peak challenge
something i've actually always wanted to do
Fuck off.
What?
You want to climb the three peaks?
Do the three peak challenge?
Yeah.
Okay, all the best.
Are we talking three peaks in the UK?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so I've done two of them,
the only one of individually,
I haven't done Ben, never.
But a lot of my friends have done it for charity.
It's always something I've wanted to do.
But she ran.
She did it all together, Dave.
She ran from peak to peak to peak.
She covered 700 kilometres.
Right, okay.
So that trumps my friends who got lovely little show, did the walk and got a nice chauffeur-driven van down to the next one.
So she ran, okay, interesting, that's slightly.
So I might retract my statement in terms of saying I want to do the three peaks in that fashion.
And just to clarify, I spent most of my childhood in the late street and love everything outdoors and I died to be there back there all the time.
But that's another story.
but I don't want to run it
No, no, no, she ran
700 kilometres, she barely slept
You'll see, you'll see, you're about
to hear this episode
It's absolutely fascinating
Fascinating, she's a machine
She's not human
Well, she is, but she makes
Us Meremortals
Well, it is amazing what you can do
I don't think I'll ever do that
No, I don't think you, I don't think you
Well, good honour, I look forward to listening
Hello, thank you so much
for coming to speak to us on the back of a really cool world record setting challenge you
have just become the fastest woman fastest female to complete the three peaks challenge how was
that it was brutal yeah I feel like everyone says to me how was it and I'm honestly like the
only world I can say is what was brutal you have my surprise it was absolutely
brutal I get that yeah it was amazing and a reflection I have to be careful because I'm like
it was amazing it was like I did have some amazing
moments, but it was absolutely brutal. Can you tell us, like, for people that don't know what the
challenge is, like, I mean, I know it's kind of self-explanatory, but like what it entails?
So the kind of like classic three peaks challenge is to do it by car. You do Ben Nevis,
Scarfell and Snowden, and you drive in between, and you're doing 24 hours, which is kind of, yeah,
the standard thing to do. I started in sea level in Scotland in Fort William, ran to Ben Nevis,
summer to Ben Nevis, ran from Ben Nevis to Scarfell, Samminton to Scarfell, and, and he started to Scarfell.
and then ran from Scarfell to Snowden
and then finished sea level in Wales.
Canarvan.
So for the context,
you're like running through three countries?
Yeah.
Between three countries and then up the mountains.
And you did it in five days.
Did it in six days, five hours, 43 minutes.
Where did you sleep?
So the first like three days,
we luckily, our like end of the day as such
was kind of at a kind of service station or whatever.
So we had a three camp fans.
we have quite a big crew
and then I slept in the kind of service station that evening
and then after day three
it was just kind of sleeping in the camper
and catnapping whenever we could catnap, basically.
So you're not even well-rested doing this crazy challenge?
Oh my God, I honestly think for the whole thing
I had about 60 an hour sleep.
Oh my God.
Oh, wow.
Honestly, and your production
for the content that surrounded this...
It was extraordinary.
Look, I was watching this like I was watching.
It was more exciting than watching a Formula One.
It was like, oh my God, these videos were amazing.
It was.
I feel like I actually also didn't obviously know what was going on.
So I had no idea kind of what everything looked like.
Every time I had a down moment, I'd be like, oh, can I go on my phone and have like a look at the comments or whatever?
Because it were all so lovely.
But I had no idea kind of, yeah, what people were saying or what we were produced.
It was unreal.
And like, whenever I shared it on my stories, because I was like, is everyone else watching this?
Like, so many people were like, you have to get on the podcast.
I was like, I'm going to try.
But I just, like, your team as well,
like, it's phenomenal because you were saying we, like,
so you did it by your set, like, you got the record because you did the whole thing,
but how does that work with people like?
So, in my God, it was such a week.
And I said that, like, every day, so Chris, my coach said, like, every day,
well, I said the other day, whenever we, like, had a break for kind of more than two hours,
that would be kind of the start of a new day.
And Chris was set a tone every day.
And he'd be like, we're going to do gratitude, watch your gratitude.
And every day my gratitude was that.
I was so grateful for like the team that I had because it was just like Chris didn't leave my
but didn't leave my side the whole time whether he was on the bike or like on foot my dad bless him
he was like key camp fan driver um mom like made all food food for us we had a physio who we
actually didn't know until we arrived and I met him why she met him once but like properly
got to know him during um and then Hannah who did all like posting on socials and then my
boyfriend videographer um so yeah I mean and we like everyone was needed
Wow. Yeah, it felt like you watching it was like a team.
So, yeah, I mean, it was pretty tough for my parents, I think.
But anyway.
I can't imagine telling your mum you were doing that.
I know.
She'd be like, go, I don't care.
I can't even get involved in this.
My mom would love it.
She'd want to do it.
And to be fair, there were a moment that mom and dad did love it.
And actually for the first, like, three days, they weren't sleeping.
They were so excited.
And then you could just slowly, we were like, who's going to go first?
who's going to go first
and you can slowly see them
getting like tighter and tighter
losing the enthusiasm
but anyway
when you set off to do it
you were hoping to set the world records
yeah so that was
a bit of a awkward one basically
we started and
the whole point was we wanted to honour
this lady called Anne Sayer
and she held the like world record for it
both male and female and obviously
being like females obviously massive like building up
the kind of base in the endurance world or whatever
we were like Anseya whatever
Anyway, long story short, someone came to us when we were in the late district and said to Chris, my coach, we found this man called Arthur who is the fastest, who actually is the fastest man, like fastest person, but there was like nothing on him, no one will you do anything on him, like kind of basically just let us know.
And then Chris and the crew had like a meeting that evening when I went to bed and they were like, are we going to tell him oh, like I was quite close to his record.
his record was five days something yeah it was like nearly six days and laws was nearly like
exactly it was super close so they were like are we going to tell her in case she wants to break
arthur's record or we're going to stick to anne's record anyway the conclusion was they told me
and i was like i set out to break anne's record i didn't set out to break arthur's he's he's just
new to the scene um so i wasn't bothered and we kind of kept doing what i wanted to do but um
and kept breaking that kept going for anne's the year was a bit of a plot twist oh that is
a plot especially when you're there and like doing it you didn't you needed to be like more
prepared I know and Chris I could tell was like pushing me and pushing me wanting me to go
for Arthur's yeah I didn't not kind of they didn't say anything verbally but physically he
was like come on um but I was like no like because seven out to take seven out is off
it's quite big yeah we didn't anyway in the last day anyway we went through the night so
like that was the kind of like we that was the kind of aim to try and do it and actually I
need more sleep so yeah like we didn't god it's amazing I don't know how you did it can you tell
us how you came to like do this stuff like how's this so I've always been really
sporty I always loved sports didn't do A levels did a B tech so had a little bit more time at
school to kind of do sport and do kind of that rather than study and then a lady came to my school
my last year and she was so inspiring and she was like I want you she'd done the arched
and I was like I won't do the archduarque and at the age of 17 I was like okay let's like cool
goal but let's kind of tape a bit down at it so I ended up doing a challenge when I was at school
which was a 10k lake swim a marathon and then like a 30-mile bike car I was basically back from
late winter mayor which is where I was a 10-k swim yeah and I was saying before we started
this podcast I hate water so that was like the biggest thing for me right so yeah and that was
the kind of start of it and that's kind of how I went for it and then I became
personal trainer, didn't go to university, and then it's been stepping stones to running the
UK two years ago, and then three peaks this year. Did you have climbing experience? No, but the peaks
are quite like, apart from Nevis, Ben Nevis is quite mountainous, but it's like, that's
the one that you'd actually be like, that's the mountain. I'm tired just talking to you. Is the running
from mountain to mountain the hardest bit, or is it climbing? No, the climbs are actually the
easiest which sounds crazy but it was the it was and also we had the heat wave which was just like
made the whole thing so much worse um we literally from starting in for william the sun
literally followed us all the way the heat followed us all the way to can alvin how many
kilometers is it from like i'm trying i'm trying to like put this into so the whole thing was
700 kilometers wow yeah and the actual mountains were probably they're probably in like 50k
worth of mountains not even wait so that was 700 kilometers of running
Yeah, fucking hell.
And a marathon's 40, right?
Yeah, 42.
Oh, shit, okay.
Oh my God, okay.
And you did all of this.
Whoa, okay, I had not, that had not registered.
So it was like 16 marathes back to back basically.
16.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
That's deranged.
That like shits on like the marathon dissolves and stuff, doesn't it?
The mountain de salves.
Fucking hell.
Yeah.
16.
You couldn't pay me enough.
Honestly, if you arrived with a million pounds in cash,
and said, keep going, bitch, after the first marathon, I'd be like, no.
I guess you could do one.
I was like, what the hell are I doing?
I felt a lot of moments when I thought that.
I need to know about that.
I need to know about your mindset.
Like, I need to know how you, where you did.
Like, how do you do that?
How do you dig?
You know what?
It's funny.
I think I was so focused on the goal that I actually, like,
people said to me, have said to me since, like, what do you think about?
And honestly, I thought about nothing.
There was, like, my mind was so blank.
I was so exhausted.
I actually, like, I can't put into words how it was awesome that I was.
And how broken I was.
I can't imagine
I've been doing Joggle
two years ago
genuinely it was like holiday
in comparison to three peaks
What's that?
What's Joggle?
So Joggle was John and Great's Land's End
and that's when I ran 60K a day
for 22 days
Um
No cycle back
I looked horrible
But honestly it was like a holiday
In comparison to three peaks
I was prepared for it
But I was not prepared for the
It was the lack of sleep I think
I mean that's torturing in love itself
Yeah
I mean I've finished an hour
And I look back and I was like
Oh my God it was amazing
But obviously at the time you're like
like anything isn't it like any like whatever weight you're doing or challenge you're doing
like you're gonna think at the time oh my god physically like did everything hurt or you've
yeah physically everything do you have blisters oh my god i can't put my phone out i'm my phone on me um
my feet and i can't even explain how my feet were like i like i also i went from a so my general
foot size is a five five and i put a size 10 and a half so long because my feet were swollen so bad
away oh my god the poor things was just like what the fuck have you done to me hello oh my god
i did a marathon i remember doing a road marathon like one of the days was like i did a road marathon
in my coach's size 10 and the halfs and we're laughing we're like the time we're like how
how are we doing so you were running and like yeah not your own shoes no i worked on which is
amazing but obviously because i had to wear solomon trainers it was like we had to literally
get solomon to like bring like excess train like trainers to be able to be able to be
make sure that I could like fit into a pair every time and I was like wearing another brand at
one point and we were like can't wear that one got to get I was going to ask how you was it
was it a sponsored event to fund it yeah it was but um I've been quite open about it since because a lot
of brands didn't I like hadn't like I think social like on social media I'm like not I'm still
not massive or anything but like I had quite a small following and I think so many brands
because my following was quite small didn't like believe in me and really back it
And actually, like, I've very much kind of from my coaching business had to fund a lot of the challenge myself, which I completely get as normal.
But equally, I think when you're doing to a challenge to the capacity that I was doing, you kind of would expect a little bit more brand support and whatever.
That does feel like a shame because I would have, because I'm watching the production alone.
I was like, this must be so expensive just to do.
And so everybody, like your whole team to come.
I assume that was going to be funded by a brand.
A lot of, like, I did get some support, like, don't get me wrong, I just definitely had some support.
And I worked at Solomon, which is really cool.
But like, not to the kind of capacity as to how much these challenges cost, which is probably why I wouldn't do one or that.
Yeah, you think.
Yeah.
If you could secure funding for it, would you do them again?
Potentially a couple of years.
I want to focus on, it sounds ridiculous, but GB 24-hour running.
What's hard?
Literally running for 24 hours and seeing how far you can get.
get and then if the i think the qualifying distance i'm going wrong is 250k in three four hours
to qualifying for what hell yeah for the world champs wow how many marisans is that 40 into
i can't do that about five just just over five in 24 hours yeah you could do that hopefully
oh my god so and then you'd qualify to go in the world championships yeah do you run to it for 24
hours oh my god so there's other people like you out there yeah
You can find it.
It's a good way of finding each other.
Yeah, exactly.
What do you love about the challenge, like, aspect?
Is it...
Are you competitive, a competitive person?
Yeah, super competitive.
When it comes to this kind of thing,
I actually am only competitive with myself.
Someone said that in the other day,
they're like, who are you competing against?
And I actually...
And I don't...
And it sounds ridiculous because I was going for a record.
But it is just for myself,
and it is just for my own satisfaction
of kind of seeing what I can achieve.
But yeah, I'm very competitive.
And is it like pushing your body to the limits, is that?
I think so.
I also do know, like, so there's a situation run three peaks.
And we're running for 32 hours.
We had the final 32 hours to go.
And we made the decision not to stop for like a long period of time.
We're going to catnap again.
So I did two one hour catnaps.
So basically getting, finishing my stint, getting in the camper,
take my trains off, literally lying there in my like sweaty gym kit on the bottom bunk,
napping for an hour.
Chris would then come in, like knock on the door.
whatever they put my i couldn't even put my own trains on like they put my trains back on for me and i'd
start moving and whatever and we'd repeat that twice and then josh a really good friend of mine came
to it's poor and a girl called amy i think there was five of us and we were doing a 10 k story 10k stint
like 2 a m we got like 4k in and i knew that all i wanted to do was have a nap and i said i basically
broke down on the floor and i was like to chris please can you bring me the camper van i was like i need to
have a nap. Anyway, at the time, Chris told me the campfire and couldn't come to me. I still,
we still don't know whether it could have come but anyway, it didn't come. And he was like,
you can have a 10 minute power nap on the tarmac road or you can keep moving for another
5K and we'll like, you can have a nap of like after 5K. So obviously I was just like there on the floor
being like like burst into tears and being like I've never been told. I imagine you guys
never been told to have a 10 minute power nap on a tarmac road. Like I was going to do
what the hell. So anyway, I then powered through and that for them. And that for
At that point, I was definitely doing it for Chris.
Like, it was, like, he had been by my side for power of 600 kilometres.
Like, all I could at least I could do was kind of keep moving for another 5K.
But otherwise, I do just do it to see why I can achieve.
I love it.
Was that the hardest point?
I don't love that, though.
I didn't love that, but, yeah.
Of the challenge?
Yeah.
That sounds brilliant.
Did you have any other moments like that?
I had a lot of emotional moments.
Yeah.
The top of Scarfell was, like, a fast day afternoon in the late district.
So, like, you could imagine it was so busy.
and loads of people were supporting.
So that was like more of like a kind of sense of overload,
happy emotion rather than a sad.
I've never had, because ultra-running,
I've only been doing it for like three years,
kind of like dizziness and kind of like loss of sight and stuff.
I never had that before.
So that was, those moments were pretty horrible.
But that on the floor was the, on the road was the darkest moment.
I mean, yeah, like you say,
if you're having to contemplate taking a 10-minute nap on the road,
I think if someone says that to me now
I know that that's like
what people do in alter running
so it's a bit more normal
so I'd be like okay fair
let's have a 10 minute pound off on the road
whereas at the time I was so tired
and this couldn't fathom
couldn't get my head around
having a 10 minute pan up on the road
I mean it's not great
did you shower
I showered and were like
in the evenings yeah
I didn't for that 32 hour
it changed my clothes though
I was going to have a shower
but I was just like you know what
waste of energy
why bother, yeah
well so I had heat
I got heat stroke
and so I kept my temperature gauge
was just like so out
so I was just like you know what
once I cooled down
but the age of not
but you're also only 24
yeah
which is an insane
age to be setting world records like this
like that's mad
how do you feel
like as a young woman
doing these challenges
like do you feel like you have a responsibility
to crush it because
you're a surprise to people
or does that not come into it?
I'm quite stubborn and I've said
a lot of brands and stuff haven't believed in me
so there's an element of me being like
actually I can do it
and also you should believe in the nobody as such
like you haven't just got to go for the person
that, you know, has a social presence
or already done something or whatever
I think actually just like that's something
that I am kind of like
I also have had like people say it in the past
like you know you're going to get injured
you're going to do X, Y, and Z, it's stupid, la, la, la.
And I'm like, okay, well, equally, I do look after myself very well.
I just kind of sacrifice, I say sacrifice, but I love doing it, so it's not really,
but kind of do social things and whatever.
So I think it's kind of, yeah, in that sense, I kind of am like,
stuff you to those people.
But I don't feel pressures.
I think I probably have more pressure now going into races.
I think races, I have pressure and feel pressure.
are you young to be doing this sort of thing
ultra-rent a lot of people a lot of
ultra-rens are a lot older
yeah I don't feel like that
you don't you don't tend to see
you see a lot of women in their 30s
yeah completely
and older
people kind of in their prime
with their older
because Carla has the world
what's I said Carla Malarro
she's got the juggle
I'm the youngest female
and she's the fastest female for joggle
that's so cool
yeah
obviously you've got
an appetite for like the challenge.
Are you like an adrenaline?
Do you like seek that adrenaline high?
Like would you do something more,
is something like Everest or I guess
where there's more like inherently more risk involved?
No, completely no.
No? Okay.
I know.
I literally, and even, so when we were doing a reckey
in Scotland the other week,
a couple months ago,
we drove for the Glencoe,
which is like beautiful
and there's like loads of kind of mountains
and cliff, cliffs, whatever you call them.
and people can obviously climb up them and la la la la and there's the mountain rescue teams
and honestly i have no desire to like climb those rocks and like climb those mountains or
climb Everest i'm very much kind of i love ultra running i love trail running and don't
wrong i love running up mountains but yeah no i'm happy and my like i like i like i enjoy
skating but like i like wearing two feet and feeling control
that's too risky for me skiing isn't no but we had benita nora
on the podcast who is the youngest
British woman to climb Everest
but that was yeah I mean there is just
that I get I so get it because
there is so much risk involved with that
and I just can't get my it's incredible but like I can't get my head around
that I just could never respect people that could
yeah it's insane but not for you not for me I'm on my own two feet
I like to be in control I like pushing myself on my own two feet
but even bad weather like
when we're at the top of Benever's
on our training week
when my training weeks
I was actually holding Chris's hand
because it was so windy at the top
and I was like, don't leave my side
like I'm not, it's not for me
at all.
I get that.
Yeah.
God, yes.
You've become a little bit more relatable
if you talk.
Yeah.
Only slightly.
No, I am.
I like to have a balance of everything.
I feel like my running is like
isn't extremity
but I do like a balance with
a balance of life.
Yeah.
What was your highlight
from the challenge
beyond finishing it?
probably Scarfell
when we were at the top
and there was about 200 people up there
and I had
yeah a serious sense of overload
but like I think one it was a good milestone
we kind of I think we're like 400k in
so it was like actually maybe we weren't quite that far
but we were a good like chunk in
and yeah two
it was just like another peeked down
and the support was just amazing
but the support generally throughout was like
just incredible
yeah um how much of it do you need like from other people and from external factors like
instagram or like your coach and how much of it did you find within yourself like if you
hadn't had any support do you still think you'd have been able to do it yeah 100% but
I would never like I actually was saying this during the challenge as well for me these like
self-supported challenges once again isn't for me I love having a support team and like as much
as the challenges it, it's awesome an adventure
and when you come, like, when you're in this
bubble with the team and it's just like
the most amazing environment and everyone's going on so well
obviously there's ups and downs, but like
everyone's going on so well and you're like
a big family. I love
that part of it and actually that is
one of the key things for me and
we all get on very well now and we're still
and whatever. So
that for me is just as much as
kind of is. Did you have one kill them or punch them
or just hate them? When Chris
told me to have my nap on the floor,
That was quite a dark moment.
That's not normal.
But other than that, no one else annoyed me.
That's so good.
There was a moment with Chris, I was just like...
Yeah, yeah.
I always...
My mum does loads of these challenges, and she was used to make me...
Well, I mean, make me.
I did a lot with her.
I'd be horrible to her.
I'd just be horrible.
Because I'd make it all her fault.
Whenever I found something difficult,
I didn't want to be introspective and blame myself.
I wouldn't blame her, and I'd just be absolutely foul.
Do you not have any of that?
Do you not have any of that?
Where you just like...
My boyfriend, bless him, he didn't...
He ran with me quite a bit.
but like not that much i remember saying comment to him like you're not running that far
and he was like brilliant he was taking photos and like he was obviously like part of the
crew like doing an amazing job and i was like you're not running that much and he was gay noted
but it must be hard for them to like keep up with you right i mean there were moments that i was
going really slow okay so like no they definitely could have kept up with me okay but i bet you're
really slow is probably not really slow yeah well with them reason
I don't know if we have kept up with you
I don't think so
I don't think so
but no
other than that
not many
towards the end to be fair
Chris and I went
and we were together
and we were like
God's sake
can we just have someone else
come join us
not external people
we wanted the internal crew
to come
we had one man
that came from
basically
when you're like
and obviously so tired
and such
like I was very emotional
particularly at the start
of the mornings
and one man turned up
and it was
so sweet and obviously it was like came from the goodness of his heart but like it just wasn't really
the vibe and also because i was going so slowly 10k would take a lot longer than kind of usual so he kind of
i think he wanted to do like 20k of us and actually that was going to be like a good couple of hours
like good a few hours kind of running and it just wasn't really you know you don't want to be making
conversation yeah yeah so we did Christmas and actually you had to tell him to to to leave just because
it was like wasn't really the vibe like obviously he came to like he meant well but
Yeah.
Oh, you do not want to be making conversation.
It's like small talk when you're tired.
It just isn't...
No.
What are we doing?
You said you're emotional in the mornings.
Is that like...
The thing is this is because I knew I had so long, like so far to go.
Yeah.
And it'd be like, oh, another day of like...
This.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did you regret signing up for it at any point?
No.
No.
There was one moment that one of my best friends came.
She also came to joggle.
And she's like, why on after you do this?
She was like, if joggle.
now this
she was like
you're gonna do it again
I was like never
how many times do you think you cried
oh my god
so many times
I definitely cried more than anything
there were a few moments
and I was hilariously laughing
I think crying
five or six times a day
that's about right for you
that sounds normal
yeah
well nothing to worry about that
this is an average day
all good all good
yeah
no I do not blame you
that's yeah
I would say that's probably about right
What do your days look like normal days when you're not doing?
Like, now you're home?
What do you do?
Like, try to be that fit to maintain that fitness?
Well, for the first two weeks, I didn't really get out of bed when I finished.
I had hot sweats, like, can't even, can't even explain.
I had to change my bedchies, obviously, every night.
I literally woke up, like, wet and pulled the sweat.
So that doesn't sound great.
But it's your body, it's your body just like, and over, like, right now I'm like exactly a month a day ago.
A month ago today, I finished.
And touch wood, I'm very lucky that I'm, like, completely back to normal.
I've got a slightly quickie voice, but I did go on holiday last week and have quite a big week of partying.
Good.
Yeah.
So that's probably why.
But yeah, I'm back to normal.
So, but for the first two weeks, I had really hot sweats and nightmares.
But, like, that was just kind of like.
Oh, no.
Yeah, nightmares are still running.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
That's horrible.
Yeah.
That's horrible.
What about?
Is it like a recurring one?
It was just more like, Chris waking me up and like tapping
or like just like completely reliving it.
Oh God, it's like PTSD?
Yeah.
From your own challenge.
From the best time of your life.
From my own self-inflicted challenge.
Yeah.
But no, like it's like normal.
Like it's very kind of like, you know,
it's a normal thing to happen.
It's just your body in overdrive.
And I'm very lucky that I have slept a lot and eaten a lot.
And, you know, kind of nuts my body
to get back to kind of good health.
So like to try.
for the GB 24-hour run do you just run low like do you have to run yeah I'm thinking
I mean the reason why I want to do 24 hours because I have got a good base already um of just
doing all this like so stupidly long stuff yeah um so but yeah it's just a lot of mileage and yeah
a lot of you too sleeping looking off yourself yeah I've been thinking that like how do you train
you can't train for like the three people how can you train for that like there's no yeah just
mileage but then I think it's kind of yeah just not you just have to spend literally a day running as
training oh yeah I mean there be some days and I do a lot but I've got some time off the moment though
like I'm chilling it's not some next year yeah I'm doing your PT stuff yeah my one coaching
oh my god I bet your clients have I would never have an excuse to to bring you ever
well I live a mind I'm fine I can do that actually they're actually like they're amazing but
A lot of them, like, they're like, they just, yeah, they have all the excuses.
Wow.
No, they don't.
They're amazing.
But, yeah, you, um, I feel like this is all relative.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Yeah.
And I'm also very, like, I'm well aware that, like, I am very lucky to have the time to
train with kind of my coaching in a sense.
So it's all online.
Yeah.
And I, like, very much appreciate that not many people have the time to train that I do.
And kind of, you know, you've got to fit it into life.
And everyone has so much.
many factors going on in their life.
I mean, it is a career, like, to have to, my mom says this all the time, because she would
do her iron man's, and then my husband would do them with her.
And it's like the difference in her training for an iron man as a retired person who does
so much less within her day.
She's like, yeah, I can go and cycle for like, you know, she does, she sort of still has
elements of work, but it's so much more flexible.
She's like, well, I can go on a Friday and cycle for 70 miles.
So it's like, if Alex wants to do that, particularly now he's got a kid, it's like.
Yeah, completely.
It's almost impossible to fit, like, training for challenges like that.
And I don't think people perhaps appreciate that it's like, it's, like, career challenges.
Yeah, completely.
Like.
Completely.
Yeah.
And actually, that's one thing that, like, even, like, influencers, I'm like, I think it's, like, you know, great what they do.
And I completely get that a lot of people are incredibly busy as an influencer.
But equally, the kind of people, the female, they know, not females, but the people that are training for, like, Iron Man or whatever, as a influencer, don't really wrong.
and was said they're very busy people but like you do have the time to trade in comparison
well it's your job yeah if if you're training like for me when I did the marathon like train
and I shared a lot of the marathon journey it's like well running the marathon was my job for a
time like I was being sponsored by a brand to run the marathon so I can go for a run
whilst I've got my childcare on Wednesday because it makes sense yeah which doesn't work
for so many exactly other people and that's that's such a it's such an important recognition
to hear, for people to hear you making.
Oh my God, completely.
And that's like, I mean, none of my clients are influencers
or my clients are, you know, 9 till 5s or whatever, like,
hour you may, like, whatever they're like full time as such,
kind of office workers, if that's what you can call it.
And yeah, I mean, I completely, and I appreciate that I'm very aware that I'm lucky,
but I would never ever put someone, like, expect someone to have to train or fit it in
and you've got to fit your training around life.
and obviously the training makes you feel so good
but equally there's so many factors in life
yeah I mean this bleeds into like
doesn't it everyday exercise
right and it's like
I don't know a lot of what we see online
is like make the time like you can do it
like have the time and it's actually like it's very hard
for a lot of people to be able to
oh my god completely fit in exercise
even for women who don't work and who have children
oh yeah so hard because I think then
like I see so much of this stuff I'm like PTs online
like mum like PTs who are
targeting women and it's like, well, you know, do it with the, do it with your child.
And it's like, that is so not a sustainable option for people who don't have a
agree like, yes, if you know the equipment and if you know what you can do within half an hour
safely with your child around, then like props to you that you can make it work.
But for most people, that's really, really, really unrealistic.
No, completely.
And that's such a shame.
Like, that's one of the biggest shortcomings of the, of like online PTs, I think.
Because it is amazing how much more accessible exercise is becoming.
and it's amazing how much free stuff there is,
how much education people have access to,
but that pressure is wild, isn't it?
Yeah, completely, completely.
I'm sort of, even like me having since going, going back,
I, like, have been, like, very busy with kind of,
I've had taking some time off work,
so I'm not now back into kind of properly working.
And even me finding time to, like, fit in half an hour,
I'm like, you know, so, like, I couldn't even imagine how, like,
you know, everyone else fits in.
And I was talking to my friends last week,
We were like, we were laughing.
We were like lying around sunbeds and we're like,
we're going to leave this holiday with not one stone unturned.
We're going to discuss every single topic there is.
And we're like, what are you doing next week?
And we were all saying and we were like,
especially in summer when it's kind of things to be going on,
they were like, yeah, I'm not sure I'm able to fit in kind of going for that run
or going for that thing.
And actually sometimes it does have to, as good as it makes you feel,
it has got, you know, it doesn't fit in your schedule or whatever.
Yeah, it's got to be put on the back burner.
Exactly.
That's fine sometimes.
Yeah, completely.
In my case all the time.
But, you know.
No, exactly.
But also, you might just be like, I don't know, I don't know if you are, but you might just like, even just like walking and getting your steps in or whatever is or equally as a beneficial, you know, walking somewhere rather than, you know, whatever.
It's so much more doable.
Exactly.
Yeah, than doing the three peaks in one go.
Just a bit.
A bit of a walk, yeah, like, just sounds a little bit more doable.
Walk the shop, exactly.
To be really, really cheesy and also to put you on the spot.
spot so you don't have to answer this but is did you was there like a lesson that you like learned
from the that challenge like from putting your body your body and your mind to such like you know
pushing it to such extreme limits was there anything that you have like taken away from it
from that challenge that will like stay with you i say two things actually one thing i suppose
It doesn't really actually relate to kind of everyday life because it's a completely different bubble.
But when we were in that bubble, there was like some days when like it sounds rank, but I wouldn't
brush my teeth because we were just kind of like not thinking about it. And or, you know, as I said,
I was where my coach is 10 and a halfs. And all these little things actually sometimes, like
those little things in life actually don't matter. And sometimes all you think about is just like
getting from A to B and, you know, those luxuries or X, Y and Z or.
That kind of thing actually doesn't matter.
So I think I said that it probably doesn't relate
because it would be quite nice to wake up and wash my teeth if I can.
But like, you know, I think you forget about those kind of things
and you're in a bubble of just getting a job done.
And actually, I loved that.
So that's probably not the answer to question you asked,
but that is something I liked.
But I think one other thing, believe in yourself and just go for it.
And actually I was so flattered, if that's the right word,
to how many people I inspired.
And actually that wasn't the kind of,
it's obviously always the mission because like I would love to inspire that that you know
everyone's goal just to inspire but my mission and issue was just to get my just to get it done
and actually I inspired so many people and actually so my thing now probably is just to kind of
say go for it and believe in yourself because not many brands and people believed in me
and I did do it yeah so and I've also been always been very stubborn and kind of have always been
like you know do it and yeah
have you ever failed at anything you've tried yeah I think even like now like I didn't go to
university and I um which was quite a big thing I mean I'm still young appreciate it but kind of like
six years ago it was quite a big thing um and well from where I kind of am socially it was a big
thing and I think that was at the time I actually felt it was a failure because I kind of was okay
I was early money my friends weren't because I was kind of a PT but socially it was a bit of
of a failure. And I think that for me, I think for me, that has been quite a struggle.
I think I do love to go out and I do love to have a drink, X, Y, and Z. But my friends
definitely forms stronger friendships in the past through kind of having a good time,
whereas I've been training or P-T or whatever. So I think that probably has been a failure
as such for me socially. Yeah, it's kind of, it's worth it. And towards, I think even now,
I am at the time, I'm like, when am I going to earn money
as a 24-year-old and actually kind of
earn proper money? I'm like, I'm just kind of doing all these
random things. So I think that's
a slight failure, but
it's all paying off.
I think we've got much cooler things.
Yeah, I think of that. Yeah, but you know
when you think about those things and kind of...
Of course. Yeah, but yeah,
hopefully it'll all pay off and it's definitely kind of
I only finished four weeks to go, so we'll see.
But for me, like, the sucks out has kind of been through
challenges and that's kind of where I go.
over there. Yeah, well I'm excited to see what you do now. I don't think that sounds like a failure.
I think it sounds like you've just redirected your energy to make successes out of other things.
Yeah. Well, let's see. Comparison will always get us, won't it? It's like the people,
your peers are doing things that feel so different to you and that's always going to like
create a stark contrast. But like you're doing like, I mean, you're just fucking 700 kilometers.
People do say that. People do say that they're like, oh, it's amazing what you're doing.
and always whenever you go to like whenever I do some of my friends and whatever they're like you know they're always like all people I haven't seen for a long time they're always very much kind of like what are you up to and then I'm like and what are you up to and they're like I'm working here or working there but I'm kind of like I think I'm not very good at registering success for this um I think it's always been something but
well it sounds that you're always looking for the next thing so it doesn't sound that you probably stop for very long and take stock of your success yeah from where we're sick it's pretty cool you know that girls it's pretty cool you're my head
ladies. You've absolutely crushed it. It's been so cool to watch. And we're so grateful that you
came to speak to us. Oh no. Thank you. So cool. I can't wait to see what you do next.
Gosh. Yeah, that 24 hour running. That's fucking awful. Awful. I don't, honestly,
I can't look at anything I'd want to do for 24 hours on the trot. I'm already tired for you.
That's a lot. I'm definitely doing some time off a moment.
For sure. Enjoy your time off. Well done. And yeah, I'm excited to see what you do next.
Thanks so much, thank you. Thank you.
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