Show Me Something - Carl Radke on Summer House tea, sobriety, hooping vs. WNBA legends

Episode Date: February 26, 2026

This week on Show Me Something, the WNBA’s Sophie and Bravo’s West Wilson are joined by Summer House OG, author, podcaster — and secretly elite volleyball player and Syracuse D1 practice squad standout — Carl Radke. What starts off chaotic turns into one of our most honest (and funniest) conversations yet. Carl opens up about staying sober on reality TV, filming Summer House without drinking, and why theme-party fits matter more than people think. He gets real about growth, his public breakup with Lindsay Hubbard, rebuilding friendships with Kyle Cooke, and what it’s like watching your life back on TV for a decade on Bravo. Plus the Pittsburgh native talks sports roots, Jaromír Jágr secret Halloween ice cream stash, his All-American volleyball skill, Syracuse women’s hoops practice squad stories, the infamous Bailey Taylor makeout on this season of Summer House, and why taking compliments is still the hardest part.Get your Meat & 3 box at an Arby's near you today. Available for a limited time at participating locations while supplies last. Prices may vary. https://www.arbys.com/Visit https://www.captainmorgan.com to learn more! Please drink responsibly. Don’t share with anyone under 21.All lines provided by ‪Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And she was good. And obviously I had the NBA pedigree. Yeah. But I remember one of the assistant coaches going to me, he's like, Carl, go as hard as you fucking can do whatever. Yeah. And I can still like dunk is just. So like, but the women's ball was a little bit smaller than I was adjusting to

like using that a little bit. Yeah. But I remember going fucking toe to toe into paint. And she would kick my fucking ass. Dude. Really? Oh, yeah. They weren't allowed.

We had a rule that you guys weren't allowed to dunk. You guys could do anything, but you weren't allowed to dunk. and like it was it's so funny though because did it take you a second to learn how to like play against the girls i just think it's funny too though because our practice players is like the first ones like you know you're playing so sometimes you're gonna like hit someone in the boo where we're going to hit you guys like in the nothing oh yeah oh yeah if you're posting some guy up down low and he's just yeah i was also like trying to like get some like leverage and i'm like put my head under tips like i love it

Okay, first things first, guys, show me something podcast, episode 34. We are joined by a dear friend of mine, Carl Radke. He's now also a podcast host himself, Summerhouse O.G, and I've got it in real time. Are you calling yourself an author, Carl? No, I'm not. You have to. This is awesome. I can.

I mean, I feel like I have to, but I'm not comfortable with that. There's a lot of amazing authors who are real authors. I'm just a regular random dude. That's why people love you though. But Carl did publish a book. It is called Cake Eater. You've kind of got a lot of awesome stuff going on right now. Are you more excited to have the book going around?

Are you more excited to like start the pod? I mean, I feel like I've been working on both of these things for like almost two years. So they kind of go hand in hand together. They kind of feed each other. So I mean, it's been, both of them have been really fulfilling and super, you know, super fun. Very overwhelming. Some of the book stuff going on tour has been really exciting, but also, yeah, I mean, I've opened up a lot about, you know, dark, difficult things in my life. It's not like a happy, you know, hug your friends read.

It's very difficult, you know, material and things I've been through. So, yeah, I mean, some of it's been amazing. But the goal from the beginning with the book was to help people. And I feel like that's what's happening. So that's all that really matters. Okay. I should, real quick, so I'm going to introduce you guys because that's my fault.

I didn't even do it. No, you're good. Okay. Sophie, Carl, Carl, Sophie, Carl, Carl's a big, ball-noisse. And before I go, this summer, when we were filming summer house, I'm glad you two get to me now.

I was, hi, Sophie. Hi, Carl. Okay, so I was, I love this. I was just telling West, I was like, I think that I just really love him. Like, I just feel like you were just a good, freaking human. And there's just something about you that you just want to squeeze. Like, and like, well, that's why everyone's like, calls him dad.

But seriously, I think that you are a fan favorite for so many reasons. But something that I want to talk to you about because I think this is like so bold and courageous of you. And I, like, love you for it is like, you're on a show that is known for like partying, partying. How do you say that word? Partying. Partying. Yeah, being a part of year. And the fact that you just choose to, like, be sober and now you're into running, you're an author, you're starting your own podcast.

Like, I feel like you are living your best years right now. And like you're mentally, physically, emotionally, everything. You are just like blooming and blossoming and everyone who watches the show can see it. So like, let's dive into that big time because I don't know you, but I'm so proud of you. And I know other people when I said that we're having you on the podcast, they're like, hell yeah. And I'm like, let's get into it. So, well, thank you. Thank you.

If I could say anything, I feel like I get way more credit than I deserve. You know, I've, I don't have it all figured out. So I appreciate the kind words, but, you know, it's hard sometimes to receive such complimentary feedback because I, you know, I've put, I've been through a lot of stuff. I'm definitely, I don't think I'm a fan favorite. I appreciate the notion of that. But, you know, I've certainly put a lot out there for the fans to talk about over the years. some pretty bad, some pretty ugly, but, you know, that's kind of what we're, you know, what we're here to do is show our lives and all the ugly, all the bad and the good sometimes.

But yeah, no, I've been very lucky and very privileged in a lot of different ways with a lot of opportunities and a lot of things have kind of come my way since kind of turning my life around. And a big part of that was admitting that I'm an alcoholic and a drug addict. And like I had to take those steps. I come from a family that has alcoholism and drug addiction in it, mental health issues. So yeah, it was important for me to kind of look in the mirror. And I also watched the show too, Sophie. So seasons one through four, I, I mean, I hated myself.

Like I hated who I was and the person I was putting out. And from season five and on, you know, I've really tried to make better choices and really look in the mirror. I told Sophie before we do this because I've done like the same press you have, Carl, that we get asked a lot of the same questions over and over and over and over again a thousand times. and I think we want to have a little more fun and ask you stuff that you've never been asked before. In the spirit of this being a sports podcast originally, you're a Pittsburgh guy, born and raised.

Pirates, penguins, Steelers, who am I forgetting? Pirates, Penguins, Steelers. It's our big three. That's all we have. Yeah, big three. But I went to Syracuse University, so I do kind of low-key cheer for the sports. I mean, basketball and Syracuse has been on a downhill the last.

I mean, ever since we joined, ever since we joined the ACC, when the Big East got kind of disbanded, you know, Georgetown, Yukon, Villanova, Syracuse, Pitt. It's never been the same for the basketball team. Even Old Big East football used to be sick. They had like West Virginia, remember where they had like Steve Slate. Like Old Big East used to be so tight. Yeah, West Virginia, Miami.

Virginia Tech, Miami. That's a pretty good, like, Thursday night, ACC games. What are your first memories as a Pittsburgh, like, sports fan? Is it the Steelers? Like, what is your first memory that you can, like, recall? First memory was 1990, 91, 92. The Penguins won back-to-back Stanley Cups.

Mario Lemieux. Yommer, Yager, lived in our little community. He would go to his house during Halloween, and he would, like, in Pittsburgh, so the local players had like a candy bar. Like it was like their local thing. What was it though? Was it like a Snickers?

It was like a twig. It was a yammer, yager peanut butter hockey puck like circular. Oh. Like that sounds kind of good actually. It was honestly legit and he would hand them out from his own home because he lived in like in the community. So people would trick or treat at this house and he'd hand out his own candy bar to the kids.

Wait, God. Is that cocky as shit or is that like legit? Well, he, He's a check and he's got a personality. So he kind of got away with being like an ego, like alpha. Yeah, my first memory really of that was 90, 91, Penguins back to back. However, I do want to flag. I was born in Chicago, Illinois.

And we lived there when I was very young. My first game ever was a Chicago Cubs game at Wrigley. It was a day game because when I went to the Wrigley Field, they did not have lights for night games. It was only daytime games at Wrigley up until like the late 90s. Do you know that there was also an ordinance in Chicago that said that you can't make loud noise after whatever PM it was, like 7 or 8 p.m. So that's why the Cubs like always, like if you watch them on TV, they're always playing there during the day. Because at Riggily they've been playing day games for so long due to like not having lights and like these weird Chicago ordinances that they like never got rid of.

Well, like, Riggily's, like, literally in a neighborhood. It's like you're walking, you know, it's like north to Chicago, but it's almost like it feels like you're in someone's backyard and then all of a sudden here's a baseball stadium. But guys, don't you kind of prefer like a great, like 75, 80 degree day with a slight breeze rather than a night game? Like, think about it. Baseball, day game is big epic.

I would say a playoff night game. It's pretty cool, too. Where it's at. Like an October night game playoffs. You're kind of bundled up a little bit. it? Oh, yeah. I like that. Oh, yeah. Carl, what took you to Syracuse? Like, I know Syracuse is a good journalism school, and I know basketball was good. Right behind me. I've got my credentials.

I, my, my guidance counselor, uh, sophomore year of high school. I did like the morning announcements. I love holding microphones. I did the sports stuff. Even though I played. I love like ESPN and Sports Center. I mean, kind of like you guys too. I, I, thought of, I wanted to go to journalism school. It's originally my idea. And my guidance counselor wrote down like four different schools. She's like Syracuse, NYU, USC. University of Missouri, probably, from being honest. I think actually, Missouri. It's the number one journalism school in the country. So yeah, there was a few schools. And I, my uncle, I'd actually had some friends that gone to Syracuse. And something about the basketball team, the big sports,

the big school. I was really excited about trying to. to go there. So I put all my eggs into the Syracuse basket from like junior year. That's right. I knew I wanted to go there because in school, the education program. But that's how I got to Syracuse. I was a really good volleyball player. I was all still. You was volleyball? Yeah, I was first team, all Pennsylvania, my senior year. I was probably the best center in, I mean, I was in the country. I was probably the top five player in the country my senior year. Are you shitting me? Yeah.

I mean, volleyball? Yeah. I'm sorry. Yeah. Dude, I know. But like I just, I feel like being in the Midwest,

I think when we were growing up, volleyball, all the tall guys, they went to basketball. But there were so many basketball players that I was like, dude, you'd be a badass volleyball player.

And the fact that you played, did you ever play sand? Oh, absolutely. We had a sand court in our, like, in our town, even though we lived in Pittsburgh,

we had like this cool sand court in the summer we all would like pick up. Dude, I don't have no idea. That, like, makes me just love you even more. What the heck? That is so fun. This is how it came to be. I loved baseball.

I love my brother was an amazing baseball player. He, you know, was world-class baseball player. People knew he was a great athlete. So I always wanted to be like my brother. Yeah. And when I got to high school, I was on the freshman baseball team. I wasn't great, but I just wanted to play. And then sophomore year, I tried out for the varsity baseball team.

Got cut. I didn't even make the JD. team. So I went home crying essentially when I got cut. What am I going to do now with all this free time? And one of my friends said to me, shout out to Ryan Murray, he was like, bro, if you want to dunk a basketball, try out for the volleyball team. And it was kind of like all these basketball players that weren't playing a spring sport went over to the basketball team. And my sophomore, or sorry, volleyball team, my sophomore year, we had two of our best basketball players on the varsity that's volleyball.

Yes. But I just caught the bug, and it was incredibly technical, very competitive. I love the athleticism of the jumping and the blocking. Dude, wait, the jumping that men volleyball players out of this damn world. Like, I don't think people get them to that credit. Dude, well, you think of basketball players, just dunking, but I'm like, no, you need to watch volleyball players jump. It is insane.

They were crazy. So, yeah, I caught the bug my sophomore year of high school with volleyball. I wasn't great my sophomore year. but by junior year, I actually started playing, like, there's a junior Olympics kind of community. I started playing volleyball in Junior Olympics. And my senior year, I was really, really good. By senior year, I mean, I was definitely one of the best players in the state.

Wow. But I failed to be a setter. Well, it's funny because with setting the right side, like the setter actually is the right side blocker. And the left side hitter is the strong hitter. So technically you want your, probably your smartest player and your best blocker to be on your right side. I was a good blocker, but I was super smart.

Yeah. So I played also, we did a six two. So I would set back row and then hit front row. Smart. So I had a good arm and a good swing. But yeah, I was going to say, though, when I graduated from Syracuse, I was recruited by, you know, Penn State, St. Francis, like Ohio State. Ball State.

I actually went to Ball State to look. Good old Indiana. But I wanted a lot. large university experience. And I wasn't going to get much scholarship money from those schools. Yeah. And I don't think my dad said this, but I heard this from someone. They said, Carl, if you tear your ACL day one of being at Ball State or Ohio State, do you still want to go there? Yeah. I mean, the answer, the answer is no. I wanted to go to where the education was the best and the program for furthering my career after college made the most sense. Yeah. But I got to Syracuse and

I did play on the club men's volleyball team. And my freshman year, I was an All-American as an actual outside hitter, not a setter. Right side or left? I was a left side. You've been so humble about that because I knew you played volleyball, but you have never dropped the accolades until just now. No, I was legit. Dude.

Ooh, we got to find a eight. We got my eight, Carl. You'll get a kick out of this. So this is sophomore year at Syracuse. There was a gym on campus where all, like, the football players would come and play pickup. The lacrosse team played pickup. I was just the regular guys, but we had like a good crew of basketball players. Sorry.

And I was playing pickup. I mean, I could dunk. I was ball and, like, that was a good player. Yep. One of the assistant coaches from the men's basketball team was there watching. He pulled me aside. He said, hey, you want to try out? I said, absolutely.

So I went over to the trial like a week or two later. And Jim Beheim was there, you know, the whole deal. Yeah. I didn't make the team. I got an email about a week later. Hey, Carl, I'm the head coach of the women's basketball team. Oh, I don't know where this is going. Oh, practice.

Yeah. Did you do it? Coach Quinn Richardson was like, yo, we're doing this whole men's practice squad, kind of like what Yukon was doing. Yeah. We wanted our best.

A lot of schools do that, I think. Well, everyone does it now, but I don't know back in the day, it might have been like a newer thing. I don't know. I think it was newer. I was one of the first ones at Syracuse to kind of do this.

but I went into the meeting and it was like you get a Gatorade with your name on it you get a pair of shoes all the kits show up to this thing and my favorite story I'll tell you my favorite story

was Carrie Lambeer I didn't talk here at a long time Carrie Lambeer Bill Lambeer's daughter daughter she was one of our power forefers at the time she's fucking big she was a beast and she was good

and obviously I had the NBA pedigree but I remember one of the assistant coach is going to me he's like Carl goes hard you fucking can't do whatever. And I can still like dunk is just. But the women's ball was a little bit smaller than I was adjusting to using that a little bit.

Yeah. But I remember going fucking toe to toe and paint. And she would kick my fucking ass. Dude. Really? They weren't allowed. We had a rule that you guys weren't allowed to dunk. You guys could do anything, but you weren't allowed to dunk.

And like it was, it's so funny though, because did it take you a second to learn how to like play against the girls? Absolutely. I mean, I was, I obviously, I was excited about the opportunity because I knew how fundamental and skilled. Yeah. Yeah. But what I didn't clock was the toughness and like the physicality of the women. I just assumed it would be a little less physical. It was actually more physical than I ever realized.

Everyone says that. Everyone, because I heard that too. We just, you just have to be because when the guys are so much more athletic, like I don't care what anyone says. Yes, there's a lot of athletic females, but guys are just built different. And so we, I feel like, have to be more physical. So when our practice players come in, they're like, like, shit, we got the fucking shit beat out of us today. We're like, yeah, we have to, like to keep up with you guys.

Like, there's no way that you can't. So I just think it's funny too, though, because our practice players is like the first ones, like, you know, you're playing. So sometimes you're going to, like, hit someone in the boo where we're going to hit you guys like in the nothing thing. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. If you're posting some guy up down low and he's just.

Yeah. I was also like trying to like get some like leverage and I'm like put my head in her I love it. But I will say that no dunking policy is a real thing. I got frustrated at one point. I was like kind of back and down. And I did like a pump fake and like drop step. And I can like to like a quick step and dunk.

And I did it. And the coach goes, don't ever fucking do that shit again. Carl just I'm like, fuck you females. Wait, is that just because it's not a part of like I don't want to. It's just not a part of the women's game. Are they just like, need it out? Like, it has to be realistic. There's not anyone doing what Carl can do,

especially if you played fucking men's volleyball. There's just no way. And then I remember, this is a crazy memory, but there was a guard from Rutgers at the time who was one of the best players in college basketball. Cap, Cappy Pondexter.

Oh my God. Yet. What? She was sick. And so I would wear this all, like, different colored jersey. Yeah. I'd be Cappy for a practice.

Yeah. Basically, I just ran around like a maniac. Like, screens are being. set, I just ran all over the place, and there was one particular person that had to guard Cappy, but I would play kind of that. Dude, Caffy's like one of the best players that ever crossed the WMBA. Like, that isn't saying, Carl, that you know these people. This is just like blowing my damn mind up.

No, I remember her vividly because she was, yeah, like, we had to kind of prepare for that game. Yeah. I always would tell my friends, and you're like, I was back. And Carl's saying we, you hear that? He's saying we. What a team? I love what they're two in there.

No, but I will say, I think that, like, Like our practice players are men who are like in female sports and like you're in it like you're playing or like your manager or whatever. Like you have a better appreciation for how hard like how hard we work and like the athletic system that we have. It's different than the men, but there's still an appreciation for it. And like the fact that you're still a fan of it, I think it's because you were in it. Like I just love that. I love it. I mean more than like the competitiveness was incredible.

The fundamentals were I actually believe the fundamental. metals were better than the men. Yeah. You know, just bounce passing and picking, setting screens, some of the defending, it was like, the women I felt like were like, they do it, they did it better than us. And we got away with it. We have to. Like, we have to, we have to pay attention to the small details because you guys are just

too athletic that you'd pick us apart if you don't have the right angle. If you don't have the right, I don't know, defensive scheme. Ultimately, that's the, that's the whole purpose of having the men's squad is to just kind of like really home. and make everything a little bit different. I'll have to send you guys the screenshot. It's called the Daily Orange, which is our student newspaper.

And it was like men's best or men's team castoffs, practicing with the women or something. I love it. I love it. So, yeah, I love it. You know that the WBA still has practice squads. So you need to get on the practice squad of the Liberty. Hey, do you need an extra? Well, it's funny.

I live in Greenpoint, Brooklyn, and the Liberty are building their brand. practice facility right right outside where i live dude what if i got written in the stars carl i was i've already i've already got traded up there and then actually me and carl become like fucking best friends i thought you're going to say that we get married or something oh i mean that too and then we have kids both good ones i love it i love it all right quick time out today's show is brought to you by a presenting sponsor hard rock bet florida sports book with hard rock bet there's literally always something going on hoops hockey and a bunch more every single night

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available on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. One part of your summer house, Laura Carl, that I still haven't watched like everything from the beginning, but it's that you were like, Mr. Sales, like just loves, just love sales. I love selling. So you graduated from Syracuse with what degree? Television radio and film. What's funny is in my eighth grade, like yearbook, we had like superlums, like most likely

to be an NFL player, most likely to be on TV. It was me. I always like, I like the mic in the camera. A lot of my friends from my hometown and growing up aren't surprised that I'm in the TV world.

They're surprised it the way it is. They thought it might be me hosting something or being an anchor or doing that. It's a little different. I think the three of us could all agree we have always liked holding a microphone. I think we all have a knack for this.

I'll say it just comes natch. We have the face and the voice for it. I thought I always had a face for radio, but, you know. No. So you graduated and then were you in NYC right after you graduated? Like came straight here? No. No.

So it's funny. Like when you're a junior, senior, at Syracuse, a lot of the alumni, you know, they either, like in the TV film program, alumni will go to L.A. or go to New York. And there's like a, at the time, it feels like, it feels like what, like, Reddit is. It's like a forum, but just for Syracuse. University. And kids would be like, hey, I live in L.A. I just graduated last year.

I have an open couch. If anybody wants to crash my couch for two months, no problem. Like alumni help each other out. So when I graduated from Syracuse, I moved to L.A. Like a week and a half after graduation. One bag. I brought an acoustic guitar, like a total loser. Like, dude, Carl, out of everything that you might need to go across the damn world,

you brought a fucking guitar. It used to the guitar that I barely play like, you know, Oasis Wonderwall, you know. I had a dream and I wanted to work in the TV world. That's actually hilarious. Wait, what year did you start Summerhouse? First season of Summerhouse started filming June 2016. This is a 10 years ago, so.

Dude, 2017. I was a sophomore in college. I had just gotten back from a visa on a six-day bachelor party, barely slept, and Kyle and I drove out to the Hampton, so we had no idea what the hell was happening. We were already doing this kind of thing with friends. Yeah. And I'll never forget when I first moved to New York in 2013. So I'd been in L.A. for quite a while, and I came to New York.

And I went to dinner with some friends. They were like, hey, what are you doing this summer? I'm like, I don't know, you know, hanging out in New York City. and they're like, no, come out to the Hamphids. And what I had learned, you know, that's 20-somethings, 30-somethings, finance, fashion, tech, whatever it is, they were, like, renting a house in the weekend with a big group of friends.

So I joined a house in 2014 and 2015. Wow. And I did what we kind of do. I met Kyle. I'll never forget the first time I met Kyle last. I don't have ever told you this. Oh, Lord. It's a true story.

I was at Surplodge. Now, I was the guy back in the day, I'd get the massive bottle of Rose. say like i'm talking like it was almost taller than like a five-foot person oh god and i had this bottle at the table and it was like my like chum in the water fishing it was like a loring in all the cute girls and whatever of course it was embarrassing i'm not saying this is cool trust me no it's cool it's fine no one no one is judging you no one is judging you no one is so i have this big bottle and it was one of those it reminded me of like it was just like i was like i was like like i was like

trying to hold court and overwalks Kyle Cook and he's like I think this is what he said about this is kind of my memory and he's like sick bottle dude can I get some and I like and what I had this thing where the bottle was so big and heavy that like I could pick it up with one hand and like pour it it it wasn't easy but it was like a douchebag move like can you like pour it with one hand yeah so I got a Kyle I go you can have some if you can pour it with one hand he grabs it and you like couldn't do it. Damn it. So how it's done.

And then I, we party, we hung out. And then I swear, like a couple days later, I was at Equinox in Soho where I lived in New York. And I was at the gym at like 7.30 in the morning. And I look over and here's this blonde kid that looked like the dude from Surflage.

And he's at the bench press like ripping weights and getting after. 135, dude. Just to set out. It's two plates, bro. Two plates. And I literally was like, yo, what's up, dude? And he was like, yeah. And we got each other's numbers and just became friends from there.

But the honest to God truth, I was at my dentist's office a year later. I didn't know anything about a TD show, nothing. I was getting, I worked in sales, the West sales guy thing. I was like a really good sales rep. I worked for a medical dental company. I'd sold braces and wires, orthodontics. I lived here in New York City. I worked New Jersey and all that.

So one of my dentists who was a friend of Kyle's also, he would give me cleanings and I'd go in and like pitch some new products. I went into his office in May of 2016. I get in the chair. I lay back. And he's like, yo, your boys are going to be on some Bravo show. And I go, what? And he's like, yeah, Kyle and Everett are going to be on some Hampton's reality show.

And I, in the chair, I still have an email. I lay back and I wrote Kyle and Everett an email. Hey, boys, I'm at Lane. Lane was a dentist and at Lane's office What's this show about? Yeah Kyle emailed right back and says Funny you ask we're looking for another guy Say less

I called Kyle after that and he's like Yeah being him knew each other we were friends But it wasn't like You know I didn't know what was going on He's like yeah we look we had some guy back out We're looking for one more due to complete our house I know you're a lot of fun and seem like a good guy Like what do you think and I'm like

Okay, fuck it I love it isn't it crazy the chain of events that just like, because you went to surf lodge that one day and Kyle came up to you that one day and then you were like it all leads to like, I mean, same with when I met fucking Lindsay. Like it's just like so random. I'll never forget. She came home from the bar that night. I'll never forget it.

She was like, I met the coolest guy ever and like, we were going to do a podcast together. And she had like this napkin of like a contract. Oh. And you guys had drawn up some like arrangement on a piece of paper. We laughed about this the other day, Sophie. I don't know if you know this. The night I met Lindsay, I like told her, because I was working at Bleacher Report or whatever,

and then it's just the most Lindsay thing ever. She was like, you know what? Would be like a good podcast like a girl and a guy talking about sports. Be like inclusive, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, honestly, yeah, good idea, whatever. And then we kept drinking. And she was like, you can't steal my fucking idea and take it to Bleacher Report tomorrow.

And I was like, no, I would never. So she got a bar napkin, pulled it out and like Sharpied a contract on a bar napkin and then made me sign it. So funny. And then we talked about it again the other day, and she was like, well, I guess you broke your fucking contract.

You have a podcast with the girl. No. You guys found a nice for. Shit. Bye, that was my fault. I know. My bad.

My bad. All, it's time for a new segment powered by Captain Morgan. We're calling it Captain's calls, where you send your should I or shouldn't I, dilemmas, your hot taste, your unpopular opinions.

The messy ones, the bold ones that I might regret this later ones. If you need some advice, or how to get it right, we're giving you the captain's call. So if you've got a life decision, a risky text, a group chat controversy,

or take your scared to post. Send it in, baby, let the captains decide. What you talked about it, and I want to know, because I didn't realize how in-depth your relationship with Kyle really was or is.

Is it like so weird to look back on the last, like, 10 years? Because I think a lot of people, because I'm not in the reality TV world. And so I've asked what's this multiple times. It's like, are these relationships,

it's like real relationships. Like when you are on a show, is it like, oh, you have to be because you're part of the show or like you genuinely kind of start liking your castmates. And I feel like Kyle is one that you guys have been through so much with. And so like, just like the first three episodes of this season,

I just feel like you have just grown and matured so much like every aspect of your life. And like now I feel like you're looking at Kyle like, hey, like you can get out of this and you can have, you can blossom too. But I feel like you're in a tough spot of like him needing to realize it himself, but also you kind of being his mentor because you've been through it. Very solid perspective. I, yeah, I mean, it was interesting. Kyle's been through a lot with me on

the other side. You know, before I was getting sober, Kyle had to deal with a lot of my ups and downs. You know, I'd show up to work pretty screwed up from the night before. I infamously showed up the work for getting my laptop. So you can put up with a lot over the years with me. And, you know, we're best friends. I love the guy to death. But I definitely, you know, it's been hard seeing, you know, some of these challenges that he's gone through. But I will say, like, we both, like, when I'm having a tough time, he's there for me. When he's having a tough time, I'm there for him. But I try not to be, you know, just stand back and, like, be a helpful person.

But I try to voice some things that I feel like are important. But we're very different people. And what's the psycho fitness guy that I love to death, like, it's gotten less of that. to push him back into more fitness and wellness because I think that'll unlock some things for him as well. Yeah. Do you, obviously you're, like, I think you're a hyper self-aware person, especially now that just two months to my own phone. I know, but do you, like, how much do you tiptoe?

Because I feel like you would worry about having kind of like the God complex now of being the sober person dealing with, you know, like, our dumb, drunk crybaby moments and stuff. I think you do a great job of, like, sharing your story without being condescending towards other people, but kind of to what Sophie brought up about, now it's kind of like your time to give Kyle that, like, brotherly advice. How do you navigate, like, not coming off pretentious

in the, like, sobriety lens, you know? I think it's an amazing, I'm glad you asked that west, because I think that's something I'm very, conscious of. I think when I first got sober, I mean, even you could ask Lindsay probably.

Like, I would look at people early on when I got sober, like, oh, you're just strong. Like, I had this high and mighty, like I was better than you kind of a little bit.

And it's, it's not a great thing to be in early sobriety. Like, you don't have it all figured out. I had to humble myself a little bit and kind of step back and go, listen, whatever is,

like, whatever works best for them, that's okay. You know, not everybody's an alcoholic, not everybody's a drug act. You don't need to insert your own story into every little thing. So I've just tried to step back. You know, I have some friends that, of course, like deep down to my body,

am I like, should I say something? Yeah. But I don't. I try to step back and just be a support, be a friend. And I try not to make a lot of our conversation all about sobriety. It's one of the most important things in my life. But I want to be just a regular guy too. And sometimes I love my sober community.

Sometimes when you're newly sober, it's like all you talk about. But I also want to say, though, I don't think that, I think the amount of people that I know, because they know I do this with West, that they bring you up and they're like, you know, it's really cool to see someone who is sober on the show. Like, I think you're not giving yourself enough credit because I think that you've given a lot of people inspiration who are in their late 20s, early 30s, well, like, whatever it is to like be sober and totally be like so okay with that and like stand in full confidence. to do that. So I think you need to give yourself more credit about the amount of people that you're seriously like inspiring to do that. Because I know there's a lot of people who want to, but they're like, oh, I might not fit in or like, how am I going to go socialize or it's like, no, Carl is like the prime example. And like, I think you give a lot of people hope. So I think you need to give yourself a little bit more credit. No, I appreciate that. Something I'm working on is receiving a compliments and praise.

I think we're all bad at that in some, you know what I mean? I sometimes, well, I think, you know, I'm very, I feel it's not lost on me the impact that having, you know, me and this experience and kind of being honest about my ups and downs. Yeah. And I think it's more relatable to have a group of friends that, okay, one of the people in the group doesn't drink anymore. It doesn't party like that. But he's still a social, still likes to have fun. Yep. And I'm proud that I get to kind of showcase a little bit of that experience to the audience.

For sure. You know, and I think also I will, I'm not going to speak for Kyle or Lindsay or Amanda, who did spend a lot of time with me under the influence. I was a nightmare. I was a fucking pain in the ass. I was an asshole. I was rude. I was a dick. I was,

I was just, like, I was chaotic. Yeah. So I think if anything, the way it's, when I told, like, close friends,

they were like, thank God. Yeah. Kind of thing. Yeah. But I, because I think people love you, you don't need that stuff.

You know what I mean? Some people, actually, I don't know if really anyone needs it, but like, some people feel like that's their whole identity. I thought it gave me this kind of, like,

confidence and who I thought I wanted to be, but as a result, it actually was the opposite. And I've learned to kind of fall back into like, no, this is just me. If you don't like me for this, then okay, no worries. But I rather you meet me. That's when you say, if you don't like me, then fuck you. It's your problem, not mine. I got to bring Sophie out. I like this. Yeah, we've talked about it. One story, Carl, that really, like, it didn't like change how I kind of thought about everything, but two. summers ago and Sophie this didn't I don't think it made the show but basically like the girls stole our costumes for like a costume party and do you say costume weird

costume costum cost you said costume well anyway costume no age and okay so they steal our costumes we can't find them anywhere and Carl's like tweaking out like like he's like where the fuck is my fucking costume fuck everyone like losing it. And I was kind of like, Carl, you did? I won't find them later. And Carl, to your credit, you took a breath and you're like, as someone who is no longer drinking a part of these parties,

I feel included with my outfits, with planning the party with all of this. And that was such a big moment for me to click. Like, even without necessarily like drinking, there's still a zillion different other ways to like feel included and be a part of things that are drinking, centric but they're not specifically like drinking activities and when you told me that you're like this is what I

this is how I like have fun and feel a part of everything and feel a part of the group I kind of in that moment switched to being like yeah fuck you girls get the handbook I got me there then you crashed out thank you I mean no you nailed it I think you nailed it I was just gonna say

I wish they showed that moment because I melted down Sophie I bought five four constants matching I'll explain. I bought four matching costumes for Kyle, Jesse West, and myself. Uh-huh. They were kind of ducy, fun, American flag, July 4th party outfits.

I put them in the room. I go run Samarant and setting up, I come back, they're gone. Now, I have nothing else to wear other than a hot dog. Hey, that would have been good, too. That would have been funny. And I don't want to wear the hot dog, but I, like, tore up the house. Everybody lied to my face. Sierra specifically was like, I don't have to call.

And I was like, I know you're lying to me. I don't like you anymore because this. Long story short, to West Point, there is something like, some of my sober friends, I have a friend who says this very well. He's like, Carl, just because I'm sober, doesn't mean I don't want to go out or stop getting dressed up. Yeah. And getting dressed up is another element of like that feeling of you're a part of it.

You're participating. You're social. You're having fun. And for me, dressing up also, like, I can act and play out. like acting almost as like a character and being sillier or goofier or whatever it is. So dressing up, especially our theme parties, I love it because it gives me like another layer of just something fun to do and how to participate. Dude, you guys go balls to the walls with your outfit. Like, it's just hysterical.

Well, West is also gone balls ball with themes. You've got a great theme to start the summer at the country fair. You know, he's, he brought love his Missouriness. to the table. Wait, guys, now that we're talking about this, I have got to know, everyone wants to know how you made out with Bailey. How or what?

Not how, but like, how did it come about? Like, that is so good. You know, you can't ask that question, Sophie? Yes, I can't. I can ask whatever the hell I want to ask. It's if he wants to answer or not. And here's my thing. It's like, we have just known you, Carl, for like,

just being like the dad of the house. You're always the one who's like uprunning a million miles in the morning, getting everyone bagels, like doing. Bagels. Yeah, the bagels. But then we also know you, of course, you and Lindsay had your little thing. So you've always, like, kind of been in some type relationship. But, like, this is, like, fun Carl.

This summer's, like, so far, fun Carl. Like, you just give two bucks and I love to see it. Like, so far, you and Amanda this year are like, fuck it, this is who we are and I absolutely love it. But, like, I want to know more about the Bailey stitch. That's so fun. No, we, I mean, it's funny watching back the first few episodes where she, you know, she's kind of crushing out Ben, the Australian, which I think we're all crushing

on Ben same. I mean, West and I am. We love Ben. Ben's a fucking stud. And he's like, he's a great addition to the group and such good energy.

But having the girls kind of crush on him was actually kind of new, new experience where like there's this other guy in the house everybody's like, ooh. Wait,

wait, jealous? Were you guys like, wait a second? Go ahead. Be honest. No, I'm dealing. I've just in my,

I've been in my own head for two years. He's like, He can have fun. Yeah. Ben, I think, was the perfect person for that. He's, he wasn't like, I don't know, he's just a good dude. And the way he handled a lot of that attention, I thought was a very gentleman. Yeah, he's like, very shot.

He's like very shot. Like, he gets uncomfortable when girls are like, you're so hot. He like gets red and. Well, he said that. He grew up like in a very religious, religious, religious family. So they never really talked about any of that type of stuff. So I think that that helps a little bit of, like, not. Speaking of not being able to take a compliment, Ben,

I can't take a compliment back to the freaking red It's hard It's hard But yeah Bailey and I You know You'll see how the season plays out

I think it was a slower burn to get to that point But Oh shit I think Bailey's a lot of fun I mean I love her oversharing And like all the information

I'm talking about It's like it's sweet Like she's been through some brutal dating stuff And I give her That first dinner Where she opened up About Sweet Green

She got a fucking Did you see you got a sweet green deal out of me? I saw it, but at least Carl's more like has empathy. What is that word? Empathy. Yeah. And then you're over there going back to Jesse and like two girls crying on the first dinner,

losers. Well, I was like, I was just like, oh, God. Yeah. I'm with West though.

Like that was, you know, it's unusual at the first dinner for someone to kind of go to that level of emotion. And I think, yeah, it was funny as how looking back. I think I did tell Bailey, though.

I go, you're going to get a speaker, you can be honest. Yeah. The shot of Carl is him doing the fake puppy dog poutlet when he's like, oh. Guys, I want to come to style. And I'm just going to have complete crash out crying the whole time, emptying my whole story and see how you guys handle it. I will be right. Honestly, you couldn't.

No, guys, that is so not like me at all. I would never do that. If you, if when you guys play the Liberty, if Carl and I can get courtside, court side Liberty fever tickets, then you got a room at the house. What else are we supposed to be talking about here? W&A reality.

Bailey, the makeout was definitely hot, though, I won't say. It was a great make-out. It was good. It was hot. I can co-sign that? It was a hot makeup. Wait, guys, can I ask something? Is it weird, like, being in the house?

Like, when everyone's there and you guys just do stuff like that, is it just like, like... I mean, we're real friends. Like, we, I think we just loved having a good time. And I think the more we realize, like, the silly, like, we almost kind of egg each other on with, like, silly vibes or joking or being kind of ridiculous. And I think the more, we spent a lot of time on camera or off camera that you guys don't see. So we do bond. I mean, even Kyle and I and

Lindsey, like the car rides. Like, you don't see all the car rides, but we really hang out in three hours of the car. So, like, there's just a lot we feel like, I don't know, we're kind of know, we're all here to make a great show. Like let's be ridiculous and weird and put it on. The other thing though that I've always said is like unlike other reality TV shows where they film scenes or it's like here's dinner, make stuff happen. And then you won't see each other and you won't film until like two days lunch. Like we are the second we walk in the house, it's full like 50 hours of filming nonstop.

And after you've done it once and you realize like everything I said here like this funny moment or whatever. Also don't make it. You're not like trying to be performative because nothing you want to like, nothing you plan will be on the show and everything you don't plan will be on it. So like it's just a very, uh, you have to just kind of let your guard down and just hang out because otherwise you'd be exhausted. Wait, I do have a question though. And this is kind of for both of you.

Carl, this is off the wall to just hang tight, okay? I'm hanging tight. Do you guys kind of miss like Lindsay being on the show? I mean, she comes back. Then what's on episode this week? Well, I know because I know she, like last week, they're like, oh, she doesn't have, what's the baby's name? Gemma.

Yeah, Gemma. She didn't have Gemma, so she's going to come and hang out. But like, do you kind of miss her, like, energy and just like being friends with her? Absolutely. Yes, girl. Absolutely. And you'll see on this season, I think I kind of have to face that feeling a lot more than I think I realized. You know, we were very close friends, best friends for four years before we started dating.

and once we you know we'd been in a relationship for less than two years all and all and not trying to minimize that but like since we've been broken up and been kind of living our own lives like of course like i miss my friendship with her i miss some of the inside jokes i love seeing her get along with the others and like her friendships with the girls have been strong she bonds really well with west and kyle and of course i like see those and kind of wish i had more of that but it's I think you'll see on this season that the inside of me, I'm like, I wish I want,

I want to be closer to her in some way. It'd be friendly, but don't want to be disrespectful. And there's still some closure, I think, that needed to happen. And you'll see kind of at the end of the summer, her, Lindsay and I do talk, which I think was really powerful.

Well, yeah, tell us about once you brought you your mail. This has been going on for several years now. I'll tell you, the beginning of, obviously we were in a relationship. we broke up. I attended a Christmas party maybe five months after we broke up

for our company that, you know, the production company wear a party. I show up to the Christmas party. Everybody writes their name on like, hello my name is, puts it on your sweater or your jacket. I put my name on my shirt. I'm hanging out.

It overwalks. One of our producers with a bag and it says, hello, my name is Carl's mail. And she's like, this is for you. from Lindsay. And I'm like, okay. And then the next event we went to, I think it might have been the reunion. She came into the green room and the reunion and gave me a little stack of mail. Then again, last fall, we were somewhere else. But it's been something we had an apartment together. So she, it actually has been really funny because I think it was the most recent one was

like really cute. On my birthday, we were all together for a press thing for serious radio. And walk into our kind of dressing room and she was there and everybody was singing me happy birthday. It was really sweet. She even participated and then like a big like here you go, mail.

Oh my gosh. Wait, Carl, what if this like brings you guys back to like, you guys are both thriving? I'm just talking shit. And like the male is what brings you guys back to like getting married. That would be an unbelievable

Hollywood ending to all of this. I mean, listen, I will. say she looks amazing she's she looks hot dude she looks he looks great and i kyle and i think even west or jesse might have caught me looking at her this past summer maybe once or twice

so i mean that but both of you guys really are i feel like you guys are both just like really healthy in every aspect or trying to be healthy and just like mentally physically emotionally you guys are just really thriving and that's like good to see i know that she probably loves seeing you like that too so like it it's it really looks really good on lindsay for sure yeah she i mean i mean i I know her very, very well.

And to see her, she's just lighter and happier. And, you know, just seeing her thrive, it just makes me happy deep down. But for me, like, you know, I, we'll see how the friendship can unfold more. I mean, we're cordial at BravoCon. She, you know, is very sweet. We had a really fun, the group at BravoCon was awesome.

Like, we had a really good group. We were laughing at some of the same inside jokes. She even had some things to say to me personally. We just talked for a few minutes. So, you know, my goal is at the reunion, she unblocked me from Instagram. You're still blocked? Speaking into existence, manifest. I'm still blocked, which I understand.

Totally, it's up to her, but I was just, I'm manifesting me. Maybe at the reunion, Andy will take his finger and Lindsay's finger and go unblocked. Oh, my God. I love that. I'll just don't have an idea. But, no, I wish, I don't think people fully understand the bonds, like, the core group of us really have and those inside jokes and those and this summer that you're watching in like the episode tonight like there's little moments of like me and Lindsay laughing at the same thing or Kyle me and Lindsay laughing at the same thing that makes me so happy because

did you guys be close to kissing at all no uh you'll see I mean there was a pretty large fight that occurred and she Lindsay came in to actually calm me down it kind of worked for some reason I figured actually that that would be the best voice of reason for you in like a super hot moment, honestly. What? I just think there's so many full circle things that happen when you do something like this. And like that's one of them. I know. But the reason I ask that is because like you and Sierra, there's like some flirty little like cute moments that you guys both talk about.

So I want to ask him with Lindsay. Sierra and I weren't engaged though. We're together for that long. Yeah. True. No, I know some people deep down and are speculating like, oh, you guys are in much better places than. Yeah, one step at a time. I'm just trying to get back from unblocked. And I will say, it's been really like the friendliness of it all is amazing. We have so many mutual friends. We have a core group of people that there was some awkwardness, obviously, for a period of time. And I've tried my best to be respectful and kind of allow just some space and some healing to it. But for me, it feels good to kind of feel like I'm maybe welcome back in the group a little bit with some of the friends. But that took some time.

So I'm just glad to be where we are now. For a while, it wasn't so great. As expected. Well, even like at West, we did that panel for 92 NY. And Lindsay and I were making cracks back and forth between each other that night, which felt so, it was like the highlight of the night for me. Like, and kind of like when Sierra's nice to west, West, it's like, I was going to say, I get it. I get it. You know exactly what I mean.

Yeah. So. Oh, good stuff. I was going to say one last thing to Sophie, being sober in the house, just like something that I think is important for maybe you're listeners to know. You know, like, I feel very lucky that I get to still do the show. There's certainly moments where I get it, like looking outside, you're like, wait, this guy doesn't drink. How can you do that? But I was such a terror in a pain in the house.

like the only way I can be a part of the show is by not drinking. Yeah. And I'm present. I'm balanced. But of course, like I think the show itself, we have stupid shit that happens. People get into fights because of alcohol.

But I can still be a tick and still be a jerk or still be human without alcohol. And I think people will see those moments too where it's like, yeah, like you'll get trauma out of me, but it's just much healthier. I would like to say, though, Carl, your sobriety is much bigger than just Summerhouse. Yes. Totally.

Like significantly bigger. Totally. And like cooler. And yeah. Yeah. But I just, I take a lot of pride in being a part of this awesome show.

And like, I mean, Wes, you've been in a massive, massive addition to what we get to do. And I feel like you've brought a new energy to what we get to do. And for me to still be a part of the season 10,

the way it is now. Like, it's unreal that we've made it this far. I mean, my dad jokes around. We've been on TV longer than friends and signs up, which is saying. Crazy.

Most shows don't, most reality shows don't make it past one season. 99% of reality shows don't make it too much second season. Yeah. And we're still kicking around. So I just feel so lucky to be able to get to do it. Sure, I might a little bit more boring and. Dude, you're not boring. You're literally not boring.

And like you're saying, you saying that like I'm still a dick, you're dude, you're human. Like, everyone is that way. Like, you're still human. No one's perfect. So who cares? Well, I read too many comments and I've been absorbing all the non-s. I'm the guy that I could make 100 people smile and be the happiest ever. It's the one guy goes, it wasn't that great. And I would just lose sleep all night for the one guy or the one girl.

You need to learn how to not care so much. What's your tricks, Sophie? I just don't get, I work with a sports psych guy. And that has been literally a night and day difference for me. And I promise you that I've always had like a confidence about me that like I'm going to beat my own drum. Like I know my end goal. I know who I want to be. And so, but I think that a lot of people can get in their heads. Like you can question if you're doing things the right way and what your character is, all that. But I've truly mastered, I think the past, not mastered, but pretty damn close. The past like two or three years of like, this is my word and forgive me for not for, I mean,

little kids can't say this, but like, fuck it. Like, who gives it? Like, I literally do not care. Like, people are going to love me or hate me regardless of what I do. So why would I not just do not do what I want? Like, I don't want it to sound like this, but I just don't care what other people think. think of me. And I just, it's so free. Is that, is that, it's natural or is it a learned, is that a learned?

I think, I think there's a little bit of natural, but like, I had to re-learn how to not care so much because I'm someone who is a very, like, passionate, fiery. I love people. I care about people. But I have just really mastered the art of like, I really, I don't give a fuck. And like, when I am that way, I am my best self. And so, I don't know. It's, there's I wish I could just have like a 30 second message that plays in the morning from Sophie. Hey. I don't give a fuck. Yeah.

Don't give a fuck. I promise you, it is so bring and you just, you see just, it just is so much lighter. Things just open up when you literally don't care. Because honestly, these people don't know you,

the people commenting, the people who are praising you and like shitting on you, they don't know really anything about you. They know you guys is like Summerhouse Carl, Summerhouse West. Like they don't truly know you. So like, totally.

And part of, I think what it's, it's had me, or it's allowed me to, like, I had to be honest, like, I'm a people pleaser, which is why I feel this way. Yeah. You know, I've had to do a lot of therapy and work on that. I'm getting better. But, you know, after, like, going through a pretty public, difficult breakup, there was something that kind of within me, like, I felt like for a long, like, literally everybody hated me.

Yeah. And, you know, there's, I've had to do a lot of healing and work on that. But, you know, I had a, it was a pretty rough public thing that went on. and it took me probably a good year to like finally heal and feel like myself, which is what you're watching on the current season. Like in the mix and like I finally felt like myself again. Yeah.

Yeah. But yeah, I need a bottle up some of that Sokie Cunningham. Fuck you energy. But I think you also like both of you guys and like everyone who is in reality or just like in a platform or in the public eye in general, you have to remember like that life is not normal. Like other people go through everything that we go to.

through, but it's just not highlighted and like every little thing. Like if everyone's life was highlighted, everyone would be getting so much shit. You know what I mean? So like, who cares? Like, people love you guys, but you know you're going to get shit for it too. So just, man, who cares? Fuck it. We need Sophie on Summerhouse.

No, you don't. I would burn that. I was down. Season five, we had a basketball hoop and we crushed pig and horse. I played really good time out there. I love that. We had a pool basketball hoop this year. I'm waiting for that episode.

Oh, we had some epic. I'm hoping to make it one weekend when we play New York or if I haven't all to come up and hang out. It'd be so fun. I think you got to come. Yeah. We would love to see you. Yeah, it'd be good.

Hey, Carl, I love you so much. Thanks for hanging through the audio difficulties in the beginning. No, thanks for putting up with me. I'm a huge fan of you guys. I'm a West told me you guys were doing this. I've been a big support. I hope you guys see I like a lot of your show me post. and things. I'm a big fan of what you guys are doing.

I think Wes is incredibly talented. He is. A shining, a shining light. Oh, guys. You are too. Sometimes, sometimes. No, I think you're awesome. I'm a huge fan, so I appreciate your support.

I appreciate it. I can't wait to be in real life, and I'll show you my heading skills. There you go. I love it. I love it. Show me some podcast, episode 34, with Carl Radke. The best guy to ever live. Carl, we're so thankful.

Love you. Thank you guys. I love you guys. Good word, Carl. Oh, and brought you by Arby's. Woo. Oh, yeah. We love Arby.

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The meat in three boxes an easy move, baby. Well, my Hockerel the week was, I think you just missed her. self. But, and Kev, correct me if I'm wrong. It was Miranda, the waitress at Cooks and Soldiers, it's called. She was point, big old pores, knew the menu, new geography was so nice. I like, the whole dinner, it was me, Kev, some of the Arby's team, some of the volume team, uh, Hampton. And the whole time, we just couldn't stop talking about how incredible the service was. And I know my tone sounds satirical, but I'm like fully not. It was like such a lovely, lovely dinner.

And she was phenomenal. Did you get her number? No, I wasn't even, I wasn't even trying to, I wasn't even trying to go for that, really. Oh. Hey, did she part with one hand? One hand like, uh, yeah. Marina deserves hockey league because she's incredible. And she was so nice.

Oh, and she brought us little, we took, she brought us little complimentary shot. Yeah, queen. I like that. Okay, well, my hot girl the week is actually an animal for the first time ever. Are you going to say who I think? An animal. Well, I thought you were going to say the monkey who hugged punch. Oh, no, I should have, but it's my dead horse.

Oh, fucking good. Guys. I know. That's serious. It is serious. So, I know. It's funny because she was a funny, good, lighthearted, beautiful horse, but my very first horse, her name was B.

She was almost 36 years old. She actually passed away this morning. Yeah. What is going on? Oh, four one out for. No, she was seriously. I'll send you a picture of her because she was beautiful. I'm not kidding.

She was like the best horse. You could throw anyone on her. All of our friends and family met her. I've had her. I was like born. Like I'm 29. Yeah. We've had her since, I mean, she was 36 years old.

So I want to shout out our beautiful baby. So. Well, sending love. Yeah. Sending love to Paula. Yeah. Yeah. Mom is really, you know, kind of been out of shape out of it.

But she, she lived a great life. You know, she was a happy horse. So. Yeah. It was her time. Yeah. Putting a horse down sad, man, because they're like, well, I don't mean, I don't intend to that.

Never mind. I was just saying they're big. They're standing up. It's just, it's really sad. Well, and they're so. pretty. It's like, it's like putting down like a supermodel. It's just weird. But honestly, on a real note, a lot of things that you don't think about is like horses are massive and like,

you have to dig some big ass holes. Like, and then you have to a lift, a lift forklift. My dad used a forklift. Yeah. A forklift to like grab him or grab her and then like carry. It's just a whole process. So it is actually like kind of sad, you know. No, it is. It is. Yeah. So. Yeah. She was good. We love her. Not to end on that note, guys, but, you know what? While I'm here, shout out NASCAR.

Also, Arby's at NASCAR. And our boy, Carson. Carson, turn me up, Carson. Yeah. Miss you. Miss you. See you next time. This is an I-Heart podcast.

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