Show Me Something - Sophie Cunningham on Caitlin Clark’s Chiefs fandom, WNBA gameday superstitions & dating must-haves

Episode Date: October 8, 2025

This week, WNBA and Indiana Fever star Sophie Cunningham and Summer House’s West Wilson cover everything — from Caitlin Clark’s diehard love for Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, and the Kansas City Chiefs, to Sophie’s next big move, and College GameDay appearance. They debate cold vs. hot practices, reveal their gameday superstitions, talk dating must-haves, and unpack a wild week in sports and pop culture.  All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet 00:00 - Start2:10 - Sophie getting baby fever?   3:10 - Kansas City Chiefs Update4:50 - Sophie did not get fined! 5:00 - Sophie sometimes can be harsh 6:30 - Are we growing? No cussing? 7:30 - Not tapped into WNBA Finals 7:50 - Vacation podcast? 8:10 - Sophie needs a clean break 9:30 - Sophie back in Missouri 9:40 - Sophie doing College Gameday 10:10 - CC won’t wear Colts jersey 10:45 - Sophie turning into Colts fan 11:30 - Caitlin Clark Diehard Chiefs fan  12:00 - Sophie on College Game Day  13:00 - Partying in Eugene, Oregon bars 13:33 - West speaking at Montana State  13:55 - Dad gives his speech tips 15:00 - Montana State QB is nice! 16:40 - Coldest NCAA practice you had 17:00 - West melted his cleats 18:00 - best temperature:  Hot vs cold?  19:30 - Sophie & West NY Christmas 20:00 - HARD ROCK BET AD BREAK 20:30 - Better outfits in fall/ summer 22:00 - Sophie fashionista aspirations 23:00 - Sophie is moving! 24:50 - Taxes from playing outta state  26:00 - Mark Sanchez stabbing incident 28:40 - Sophie knee rehab update 29:50 - Does West workout? 30:30 - West workout goals? 33:20 - Needing alone time & peace 37:00 - Starting to watch Summer House?  39:30 - weird end break 41:40 - West still friends with Paige 43:50 - What you look for gf/bf? 45:00 - Sophie dating must haves 47:00 - Someone dissed Sophie 49:00 - Sophie and West gameday Superstitions 52:00 -  superstitious shirt vs Vegas lost 54:30 - Sports league with best style  #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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that's a real one. I love it. And it's just like, it's so good. Dun, dun, show me something podcast. We are back with our first ever non-in-season for the WNBA recording. I need a break. This does not look like your apartment.

Where are you? I'm actually back home in Missouri. I'm at Mom and Dad's house. I am. It's Paul there? No, she is working at Crane's Country Store. So if anyone's going from St. Louis to Columbia, stop by for a good old Sammy.

But you might see the horses walk by here soon. I know they're going to get fed here in a little bit. So we'll see. Do you know what's really weird? I had a dream about horses last night. I never dreamed about horses. And there were like a hundred of them in my dream. I didn't remember that until you just brought up horses.

Dude, do you know like, and I know you feel this, especially like being in the city and traveling how you do? because we were kind of on the same schedule. It is so nice just to be home and, like, get away from everything and just live the simple life. I always go home and I'm so excited to, like, go get dinner and, like, lunch with, like, my parents and they're always like, we're busy, dude, figure it out yourself. Dude, that's another reason why you're like, oh, is mom home?

Dad's working, mom's home. Lindsay is doing something with her kids. Like, I'm literally sitting at home by myself. Are you going to be on aunts? Ant duty all your own? Dude, I've been on Aunt Judy, and it's been so fun. Like, I'm getting baby fever, so the world needs to watch out. Are you?

Not your, I just saw your eyebrows, freaking hit the ceiling. I didn't see it. I know, but I think that's also really great birth control, because, like, you get the good end, the bad. I'm living the great aunt life. And speaking of her, I'm drinking my coffee out of my little Lindsay mug. Wait, that's cute.

Everyone needs a Lindsay mug. I was a cuter baby, but it's fine. Did you say I've been watched the Chiefs last night? Okay, so I actually got Mexican at Lost Marks. Oh, good spot, guys. So good. It's on a nice little lake in South Columbia. Lovely staff, big, fat, fucking margs, and just...

Great deals. K-so and everything, it's a good spot. Yeah. My stomach is paying the price I feel, but I was there with like the Whifflers, the Fullers, and then Lindsay and the babies. And I came back here and the game was going, but I got in a food coma. But guess what play I woke up on? The pick six, God damn it. Yes.

And I was like, what is going on? Oh, God. I was mad. I'm mad. But it's fine. I missed him when you watched it. Yeah. Chesa are two and three right now.

Not great, but they were two and three in 2021. So made it's the AFC championship. It just is weird because this team won every single game last year in the weirdest, closest way is possible. And it's like their luck fully has reversed. And now they are 0 and 3 and 1 score games. Yeah. But I'm not ready to panic yet.

Well, I think I'm starting to like panic. a little because as I said, do you think there's time to turn it around? And like, what's the issue? So this past weekend, which is why it's even more annoying they didn't win, the bills lost, which is good for the Chiefs, just in the AFC race, and the Chargers lost. So it's like, it would have been a great weekend to win and keep kind of closing the gap. But it'll be fine. I feel like the NFL this year is like, I mean, per usual, a lot of good parity.

Like everyone loses, everyone wins. kind of got a long season, keep it rolling, as you know. Yeah, but it's time to, like, turn it around a little for me. Got the Lions next week, another good fucking team, so we'll see. I'm curious, did you get fined last week, or are you fully off the docket for getting fined if the season's over? I got a text from our GM, and, like, we've been done. Like, there's really nothing to talk about, and I got a text of like,

oh, shit, like I'm getting fined. And it wasn't. It wasn't a fine. So, like, I think that I'm, I'm off the radar because we lost. But, yeah, that is good. No, that is good. But I will say, I think that, like, I'm just going to hit on this real quick. I think that, like, you know, when you're in it and everything is just, like, magnified by a million?

Of course. Like, I just, I think I, I just need, like, a break from it. Because I think that I'm not going back on what I said, but I might have been a little harsh on how I said it. But you know what? It's also me, you know, but it's fine. It is what it is. Yeah, I don't think anyone was surprised, though, with what you said. And it's okay to say things in the moment.

Thanks, but. It was an official apology? No, absolutely not. Okay. And I'm fine with, I can give an apology. I can admit when I'm wrong. I just think that, like, what I said was valid and a lot of people agree with it, but maybe how I said it could have been better, you know?

your comments towards Kathy or towards the league office? No, because I mean all of that. I just maybe shouldn't have cussed. You think cussing made it what? Like less palatable? Yeah. And like I think it, I think when I cuss, it makes it less like, it's like uneducated. You know, like, people are like, oh, she doesn't, she don't know what she's talking about.

But I do. But it's just, I'm also, I cuss. And I need to work on that. But whatever. You know what? That's actually a very good point and not just with you. I think all of,

like I cuss all the fucking time. And I think it's a good, that's actually a great note that I just took. Like, yeah, if you want your point to be like considered and like be heard, cussing is not the route to go

when you want to be taken seriously, almost. To be taken seriously and professionally share an opinion. Yeah. So honestly, what great self-awareness? I already know who told you. Who goes to you custom?

Okay, that's what I was going to say, though, is like, I was just seeing it kind of everywhere, like that quote of like, they might be good business people, but they don't know shit about basketball. Like, I just saw it everywhere. And I was like, you know, like, I fuck with that and I know I'm right. But I also think that like maybe I just could have, I could have been better. Like, it's me growing. And no one told me anything.

You know what I mean? I was just like, you know, maybe I don't, like, I have a, I represent a lot of people who don't say stuff. And so I want to make sure that I say it the right way because they're like, oh, have Sophie say it. You know, but of course, I'll probably cuss. But like, sometimes you need to cuss, but in that situation, I don't know. Yeah. Are you watching the finals? I haven't watched.

Hell no. I haven't watched a lick of the WMBA. I don't know what's going on. I talked to my teammates, like the day that we did exit interviews and all of that. And I haven't, like, I need a cleanse. Like, I'm booking vacations. West, we need to go on a vacation and do a podcast. I'm not kidding.

Like, let's go to somewhere on a boat. Well, that would be fun too. That would be exotic. I mean, there's stuff in the works, I'm pretty sure. I think there is. He-he. Everyone get ready. He-he.

Hopefully the cheese are still fucking. fucking kicking it in December. I know. I hope so. But, yeah, I haven't watched a lick of it. But what? Why did you put your finger up? No, no, no.

I'm going to defend you and say, like, I think a lot of people would hear that and be like, oh, she's like salty. Like, her team didn't win. Like, she's like not watching. One, if you're a competitor, yeah, it's hard to fucking, after your team loses, you don't want to sit and watch other teams,

like, be in the spotlight when you were chasing something. Like, it's very hard to do it. athlete and a competitor A. B, yeah, especially this year there's just so much WNBA bullshit going on that like God forbid, you hit Missouri and catch some R&R and like just

take a sack, you know? Dude, and I like, in the past I've watched the finals, but I just think like this year with like literally all the injuries and like all the shit our team went through, I just, I really do just need a break from it. Like good luck to whoever is going to win. Like I don't, I honestly, don't care who wins the finals.

And I don't, I'll be quiet. I'm stopping myself. Pace is up 2.0. Are they really? Yeah. So? Yeah, I'm not going to comment yet. How long are you in Missouri for? I'm here until Friday.

And then I'm actually going to go up to Oregon for the Oregon Indy game and do some college game day type stuff. Wait. Are you going to be there? me. No, but the video of CC not wearing her Colts jersey is fucking awesome. So awesome.

I can win enrollment. I can be like I'm here. They brought like I'll like put this shit on. They're not doing that is so incredible. I hope she knows how awesome that was. You sent it yesterday and I was like, I'm not surprised by it.

Because you know what? Everyone's always trying to get her to like wear something or do something. And like, I'm here, but I'm going to represent the chiefs, baby. So for anyone who doesn't know what's going on, were you not there, by the way? Dude, I got the hell out of there. So the Colts had the fever, like players from the fever come to the game the other day. And they all got jerseys. We're on the sideline.

Can we pause real quick? Yeah. I did go to a Colts game and I think we talked about it. It was awesome. Like I'm actually kind of turning. into a Colts fan a little bit. Like, they, I like their players. I like them.

They also are crushing right now. They look very good. I want to say they're three in one, four in one. So I'm not, well, I would say, I'm totally a bandwagner because I just got traded to indie and I've never watched the Colts of my life. But when I did go there, everyone was so nice and like the beer and food were so good too. But keep going on what you were saying. So the Colts have fever players out.

So if he was not there, but they give everyone jerseys and Caitlin, Clark grew up in Iowa is a Chiefs fan, refused to wear the Colts jersey. She just held it up like this. And she hasn't gone out and said, like, I didn't do it because I'm a chief fan, but the internet was like, she's a real one.

I love it. And it's just like, it's so good. So good. You're going to, so what game are you doing game day? Well, so I'm actually going there with Arby's. That will be fun. God the bees. The beef.

So we were actually going to go to Dallas. And it was going to be, I think, Texas versus Oklahoma. But Oregon and actually Indiana is kicking ass this year. And so they moved it up to Eugene. And so I'm going to go there, do some college game day type stuff. I don't really have my schedule. I don't really know exactly what I'm going to be doing with RBs. But I know I'm going to be around kicking it with some cool people.

So that'll be fun. Have you been to Eugene before? You know, I don't think so. Fun little town. Have you been? Nice. Yeah, I went with, so you know Justin Herbert, quarterback for the Chargers? Yeah.

Okay, they're from Eugene. Justin's older brother played at Montana State with me. Oh. So for like Thanksgiving's, we would drive to Eugene and then stay with the Herbert family when Justin was like a senior in high school. You need to send me Rex because I've never been and like me and my agents are going to go Friday and we're going to try to like spend a whole day Friday and like try to kick it and like see the town and everything. So that'd be fun.

I wonder if anyone who went to Oregon is listening to this, but I went to, I went to Taylor's, which has been shut down because, like, everyone was just getting, like, throw up drunk at this place for years. And then there's a bar called Webfoot, which is really cool. It's like they have a lot of, like, Oregon-based shot. These are all, like, downtown campus bars. Okay. And then some, some burrito place that I'll offline for you. But, yeah, just a good, like, college town. I love this.

What you need. Wait. Speaking of Montana State, aren't you doing like a huge speaking engagement soon? Yes. Are you nervous? Kind of. I think I'm going to, I need to write the speech today. But my dad, of course my dad's texting me like four times.

He's like, start with the story, then get serious, then bring it back to the story. And then like, and then end with a heartfelt message and then say thank you. And then like, I was like, off my ass, dad. He's stressing you out more than anything. Yeah. But he just cares. But it's for, it's just like an athletic gala that they do,

you know, like once a year, like on a football weekend. And they asked me to speak and which honored. And it's, did you just speak at your Hall of Fame thing? No, I didn't have to. Damn. I mean, I said a thank you. But like I didn't have to like, hey, you know who's actually really good. And I think everyone who knows me kind of knows this.

But she's pretty much helped me write every speech. entire life. Lindsay is so good at the stuff. I'll check in with her. You should. She kills it. But it's basically one of those things where they're like, it's all the boosters in like a huge room and it's like get them to, you know, understand why being a student athlete at the school is like beneficial and their money helps like make everything better and blah blah blah blah. Yeah. Which I will also say despite the chiefs kind of pulling on our heartstrings right now,

Montana State looks fucking nice. We have a new QB. Stanford transfer. And this kid's tough. He's like a shit talker. I love. Yeah, I'm all in on the Bobcats this year. But I also,

you haven't been to Bozeman, Montana. No. Best fucking place in the whole world. My parents are coming with because they love Bozeman. Yeah. We'll be a fun little weekend to like, we'll do a little hike. Can I ask about Bozeman?

Yeah. Is it like a, is it like a pretty, and I just don't know, but like I'm assuming there's a lot of kind of wealthy people up there so like do they throw money into the bobcats? For it being an FCS school it's like fucking sick like indoor football facility football has their own training facility like nice. Like it's pretty solid. And did you have all that when you were there?

We did not have the indoor. So I had a practice, which like is so important because there is, again, that's what you never have to deal with weather. but like if you're playing at home and you're going to play in a cold game then like you probably want to practice all week in the cold and get used to like elements or whatever. But if we're practicing in November in Montana and it's fucking five degrees

and then we're going to play like Cal Poly in California and it's going to be 50. There's no point in being miserable at practice all week when you're leaving to go play. So the indoor is like huge. I mean completely helps with recruiting when you're trying to get kids from. Texas and Florida and California.

Like, it's massive. But yeah. Wait, do you remember? Oh, go. My finals week, my freshman year of college was negative 40 degrees. I was just about to ask that. I was like, what is the coldest you ever had to practice outside? It was, that was final.

I don't think we were playing then still, so it wasn't that bad. But like, yeah, definitely in like the negative tens while it snowed. You end up hell with weekend goal tickets. to Lassau, Montreal. Thomas Rhett. Mumford and Sons. Well, here's my day. John Party, Old Dominion, Carly Pierce, and more.

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No. And I melted my cleat off in one of them because I like wasn't looking and it just like melted my cleat. Like it's freezing cold. It's really hard to enjoy football when it's like that. Dude, I don't think that I would, I could not do that. I'm just going to, I could do it. I am not here to like do a football versus basketball podcast, but. You have to be fucking tough to wake up at 5 a.m. walk across campus in snow and then go let people bang your fucking head against the frozen turf.

Well, how does it even? I remember growing up in like the Midwest and like we would have soccer tournaments all over, some in the north. And like, I just remember when you were so cold and like even kicking a ball would hurt your foot. And then when you get nailed with a soccer ball like in the thigh and it was like, like I just, dude, that's what I'm saying. Like pick a, I mean, that means are you kind of. of dumb because you picked a school that was awesome all the other months, but... I like the cold. I'm like, like, like, you're, like, such a hot weather girl.

I like the cold for, like, a week and a half. I can do it for a week and a half. Well, like, if you have time off, you're going to, like, Florida. Yes. I would prefer if I have time to, like, go sit somewhere. I want it to be 50 degrees and there to be, like, wind. Why? And sit on a patio.

Oh, but, like, like, you. Like what, what is fun about that? 50 with wind. Sophie is dreamy. Are you saying that because you sweat a lot? So, like, maybe you like the cold because. Well, that's part of it. Part of it.

Think about, like, right now, like, why do we love fall? It gets, like, a little bit cooler. The leaves turn a special color and, like, you can throw a hoodie on and be cozy. Love the outfits. It's just nice. Like, yesterday it was 83 with a nice, it was hot in the, in the sun.

but in the shade it was perfect with a nice breeze. And I was like, this is perfect. This is perfect. No humidity. Is it 83 in Columbia? It was yesterday. It's a little cloudy today, but it was yesterday. It shouldn't be that hot in October.

No, but you're not sweating. You're not. But you know what? Missouri doesn't really get snow anymore. Dude, I fucking know. It hasn't snowed on Christmas since we're in like seventh grade. I want to come up to New York during Christmas. I just feel like that's such like a special.

Dude, you love. Hallmark. Really? Oh, will you come this? Winter? I would. We'll do like a little Christmas bar crawl.

I'm not kidding, Wes. Like, we keep talking about this, but like, I have nothing going on this off season. That just kind of got my heart racing.

I would love to have you. Desroom. Right there. Love. There's a hoop in my guest room. Fun fact. Thanks, West. Yeah,

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Let's get into fashion. You said you like the outfits in the fall, for sure. Better outfits. You can layer. I love to layer. Yeah. Wait, hold on. I put you like a pea coat.

I think, dude, that's like your vibe. I feel like you're always, and I feel like you always have a hat or like a little beanie, which is a hat, but like, I do like that. It is swaggy. Here's my thing. I haven't been,

I've been in Arizona for the past, like, seven years. And so, like, I'm still in a bikini, but it does get cold out there. But, like, it's not cold enough to wear, like, the fun winter outfits and stuff like that. So I go to all these places,

and I don't have the fits for it. I don't. Well, let's do a New York Christmas trip. so you can like, like have fun planning outfits. Picture, picture this. Okay. Dark, it's nighttime. It's like a little bit snowy.

Everyone's like bouncing in and out of all these Christmas bars with all their lights in it. You get like a big pea coat on, some fun baggy pants and like a pair of like boots. You don't get to do that all the time. No. Okay. Do you want to know what my offseason goal is? To buy a peat coat? No.

But maybe I should. So I, this is typically what I wear. I feel like the majority of the time. Like, it's just like, it's. A crew neck for, for our listening audience. Yeah. It's a red, red crew neck and like camo sweatshorts, would you say? Yeah.

Like very, very loungy. But this offseason, I am really going to, um, upgrade my whole style and like, be a little fashionista wherever I go. Like I'm tired Because I love a good cozy fit And like everyone knows Like I love just like Kind of like the

A cargo short with like a baggy sweatshirt Or like an oversized t-shirt Like that's also swaggy But like I'm I want to look more like Feminine and elegant and like boozy This off season Hot If only someone's saying you a head scarf to wear

I have it I have it Dude I promise you I'm going to be rocking it I kind of just gave up on the tunnel fits After I got hurt But like, I'm totally going to be rocking that. Do you have any events coming up where you would like need a fit? Yeah, I have a lot actually.

Like, I'm sure you're, I say I have nothing going on in the off season. My schedule fills up so fast. Yeah, yeah, of course. But like, I don't, like, I don't even know how. But I have like a lot of speaking engagements. I have a lot of appearances, like some activations type stuff. And then just like vacation and stuff like that. So it's going to be fun.

Are you, where are you, are you moving? Like, are you going to go, are you going to be in Florida? Yeah. So I think I, from Eugene, I'm going straight to Phoenix. I'm going to be there pretty much all month, just trying to pack up my house and whatnot. God, all your shit's still there. It's crazy, actually. Yeah, literally.

I've been living out of three suitcases. Still am. And then I am going to Florida to buy a house that I'm hopefully going to live in, but also, like, rent it out. So if you're not creepy and you're not weird Passive income Yep We'll check that out And then

I think that's kind of it Um Have you Have you like Bought the house yet? Yeah like is it Is it done? No so I'm going on the 23rd to like

Go look at a house and buy one Is it Indiana has State income Right Indiana? Are you put, like, income taxes? I'm pretty sure they do.

Yeah. But I guess if you're playing in, there's no way to like claim you're a resident in Florida. Well, you can. And then not pay tax. But if your, if your paychecks coming from Indiana, then there's no way to like loophole that, right? Yeah, yeah, no.

And, you know, the kind of shit part about it. And like, I'm sure everyone's like, do so fee. But like, we're an entertainment business. And so I have to pay taxes. in 12 states, and next year will be 14, including Canada. Because we play in all these cities, and it's an entertainment, so I have to pay them taxes because we play there. Wow. I just learned that. I never knew that. Oh.

Do all leagues do that? Yeah. Like any entertainer, sorry, there's like a bug flying around. Any entertainer, like, if they do concerts, if they do anything, if you make money by bringing fans and stuff there, you have, have to pay taxes there. Like income tax? Yeah. I don't know if it's income tax, but I know that, like, I know for a fact I get taxed in 12, now 13 different states. It's some shit, honestly.

I also saw a girl who does first take. Oh, she left, yeah. Yeah. That was like pure just contract. Yeah, I know. It says that she felt like she was. getting undervalued. Like she was getting underpaid.

See, I love those type of stories because I know there's a lot more to it. And like, I want to know, I want to know because media can put whatever they want out there, but there's always more to it. Because when you're in it, you know. Molly Quorum, I think, is her last name. Yeah, that is her name.

Really pretty. Super pretty. She hosted First Take Forever. My guess is everyone around her is making way more. Yeah. Like, it becomes so much, like, I used to always think, like, it's so crazy, like, when NFL players or NBA players, like, whatever, like, hold out for, like, an extra couple million.

And you're like, it's so much money. Like, why would you ever do that? Yeah. But then you realize, it's not about, like, the actual, like, amount you're making and what you can do. It's like your ego and your, the way you want to be valued. Yeah. And you also have an agent who's telling you to, like, do whatever.

Yeah. And so, yeah, I bet Stephen A makes six times that. And then whoever else is on first take that day. But takes balls to just be like, fuck off, I'm out of here. And that's what she did. That's what I was about to say is, like, good for her. Like, if this is the story and this is actually what's going on, like, good for her for like, you know what? Like, I'll find something different because that, like, she is known for first take.

And like, a lot of people know that show. But like, for her just be like, hey, if you're not going to pay me, I'm out. Like, that's ballsy. I like it. I like that. How's your knee? I think we haven't talked about your knee in a few weeks. It's good.

No cast. Oh, yeah. I haven't had one for a while. I kind of, everyone keeps asking me. They're like, oh, when did you take it off? And I was like, well, I'm not the most patient person. I do pray for patients, but I kind of let myself get out of that cast without a doctor's order. But I had my checkup, and they're like, you're progressing really well and you look awesome.

I said say less. How's range of motion? Are we like all the way? Yeah, it is good. All the way? I can bend it past to where they even want it, but it's not equivalent to my other leg. And so I think I'll work on that because I like want my leg to be straight.

But honestly, I need to like, I'm to the point now that like I'm ready to kind of get backlifting weights and like moving. Like I'm getting fancy, you know, and that doesn't really happen to me very often. So that's good. Well, no. when you can't move, you fucking, yeah, you want to do things that you, your body used to do all the time. Do you work out?

What's your, Ouch. No, like, no, I'm saying like, do you go to a gym, like, work out? Yeah. You do? I like, eat and drink too much to not work out, Toby. Well, that's what, but I'm just saying, like,

I feel like in the all season, I'm, I have a, I'm training because I know that, like, I have to, but like, I like I just what do people just go and like work out just like just because are you asking like if I train for like performance or something like I don't do anything like when you go in there like are you like all right let's just get some other body let's do some or like is like hey like or like do you have goals like do people have goals my goal is to like still I I okay fair question I find it very endearing when people say. like you still look like you play football or I can tell you big football that to me is always a big compliment because it means I'm like still like stocky up top

so I guess I like to keep that silhouette if that makes sense and like people think that I'm still like a like a girl at a party called me a brick the other day in like an endearing way and I was like I love you for me mostly though like every event I go to especially in New York is like

there's just like a lot of drinking involved and so if I have time off I am like I have to do cart like I need to sweat I need to move I need to like because a lot of my lifestyle and like the things I'm obligated to be at are like not super healthy events

I think the fucking show I do is literally just like boozing the whole time I also feel better like that's a huge part of it. Like, when you're playing a sport, I doubt is this way because you're nonstop and all you want to do is like rest.

But for me, if I've been traveling or drinking, if I can get in the gym and like move my body and then sweat the shit out of myself. Yeah. I feel I feel cleansed from whatever I was doing before. No, I like that. Yeah. Like the mental side of it. Like I know that people still work out and I know that like I'm asking this because I, I haven't really done that since my surgery,

but I'm getting an itch that, like, I'm clearly not going to be doing what I want to, but I just feel like I need to move and, like, go lift to, like, feel better. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, everything.

So I didn't know, like, if, and I know people have goals and, like, people get into marathons and go do these types of things, but, like, I feel like sometimes it's just fun to go in there and just get, like, just move your body, you know? Is that weird? Yeah. No, and also for me, too, like,

it's so different now my relationship with working out. True. after playing sports versus now because you just like before you have to go and all your friends are there and now you're like alone and your own choice um but i don't i'm talking to people like all the time a lot throughout the day if i can go to the gym and put air pods in and like listen to music or a podcast and like not have to fucking talk to people it's like also a nice escape for me too to just kind of like be on my own. Like that sounds like sad almost,

but like it's nice to just get in there and like be quiet. No. I think a lot of people don't understand that when you are in the public eye and like you're always, which is a blessing, right? Like we, it's,

it was, sets our soul on fire and so we're in it for a reason so we're not grateful for it. But I've also learned that like I need my alone time. Like I need to fill up my own cup and like I need, I don't, I can talk.

talk to a wall for 10 hours and I know so could you. But like sometimes I just put my AirPods in and I'm not even listening to anything. I just want quiet. Just be quiet. Like, where do you find that? Like what's your ideal like quiet time? Well, honestly,

I joke around a lot about like being on a yacht and being at the pool. But I just find so much peace of just like putting my AirPods in and just being outside in nature, especially during season when like I'm too tired to like go on a hike or go do that type of stuff. Right. Right. But I truly do love like coming home and like mom and like mom and dad. you can't see any houses in sight. Like, it's just land and, like, animals.

And it's just so peaceful to, like, it's just like, I don't know, it's just something so peaceful about just being out here where you don't hear cars, you don't hear anything. It's just nature. It's just nice. Yeah. Totally agree. Yeah.

Where do you find that in New York besides the gym? So that is, like, the million-dollar question in New York. Like, it's challenging. So, weirdly, I had to do a commercial. for T-Mobile. It's about, like, showing that T-Mobile has coverage of whatever,

and I was like, you know what? I'm going to leave New York for a day, go into the woods, and, like, have some me time, film this T-Mobile thing, and, like,

stay the night, and then I'll drive back in the morning. So it is, like, it's, it requires effort because you have to rent a car and then drive out. But, like,

if you go, so the Hudson River, right, comes down the west side of Manhattan, It goes all the way up, and then it's the Hudson Valley. And that during the fall is like, if you Google, like, the Hudson Valley in the fall or like upstate New York fall, it's... I'm doing it right now.

Yeah, yeah. Sophie, like, gorgeous. Really? So last week or like two weeks ago, I, like, just got a little Jeep and I drove up sitting in a cabin in the woods and, like, listened to locusts and then slept and then came home. But it's like... Oh, my gosh. Yeah It's gorgeous

Wow It's gorgeous But it is hard It's a great question Because it is hard finding that in New York City Because any direction you go New Jersey is like a most densely populated state In the country

And then Long Island is like Fucking chaos Like I think a lot of people would tell you The Hamptons and Montauk in Long Island Like going out there would be the spot In the summer but you can't really do that in the fall or winter.

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in the drop-down menu that follows. Let's do tell me something. Let's do it. Hi, Sophie. Hi, West. My name is Maddie. I'm from Maine. If someone's new to Summerhouse, where do you start? Do you have to go back to season one or do we pick up somewhere in between? Where's one start that journey? So, thanks. Bye. Can I take this one first? Because I never watched Summer House before you got on it. And I only watched it because of you. And I think a lot of people in this neck of the woods is like that. I started watching. I picked up from the first season you were on. And then I kind of had to, like, do my research.

And it was really more just, like, stalking Instagram and, like, Google about the past seasons. But, like, I think you can just pick up wherever you want, honestly. I've never watched the beginning. Like, if you start, I think you'd be playing catch up for, like, a season. Yeah. And then you'll figure it out. Yeah. But a lot of people, like, people will comment on our stuff and be, like,

like just had a kid going to go rewatch summer house like the whole like every season so i don't think there's really any right or wrong way but season eight is really where it gets good dude when do when does everything like come out like when can we start watching this new season um there's never like a date it's kind of like how they move in post but like usually like middle end of february i want to say i just because because of you, literally because of you, I go and I want to know what's going to happen next. And so I go kind of stalk everyone's

Instagram pages and like I'm trying to piece stuff together. But like it's too... You're becoming a Bravo fan. You're pretty good. They look into like who's commenting on what, like who's following whatever. Like it is gnarly. I do think though if you have the time

like starting from season one could be insane. Like I like watching Kyle, Lindsey and Carl and I mean, like, all of them grow up, I'm sure is a mind-boggling experience. And saying grow up for Kyle is a gray word. But, um,

and they seem like, I don't know. I think this show is good because there's so much history. And like, it is, it's real because everyone's known each other for so fucking long. It's not like some show where everyone meets and finishes. Wait, can I say something kind of,

it's not mean, but I want your opinion on it. Yeah. You ever, and like, I promise you, like, this is, this is like you being in it and you telling us because we're just not in it. Do you ever think you get to a point where, like, you just outgrow the show? Well, like, that's what happened to Paige, I think. She's got so much shit going on and, like, I think wants to, like, live a life where it's, she doesn't have to share everything kind of thing. Yeah.

So, like, yes, for sure. and I think that is kind of what, I mean, we'll see what happens next year. Yeah. But yes, I think that's very much a thing. I'm still like, fine. Well, you're still, well, duh, dude, like you're new to it. I'm having fun.

Hey, you're going to be the, you're going to be fucking 69. No, I'm not. Don't see it. No, I'm not. You're going to be 69 still on there. Dude, that is funny. Wait, real quick, though, is, because Paige's stuff kind of pops up on like my TikTok and other stuff like that.

Are you guys like still friends and that type of thing? Yeah. She's got a banana. I'm waiting for her moment. So I can spam that on the Instagram. Yeah. Paige, I love Paige. Paige and I get each other's humor.

I like. Yeah. I can't tell. Yeah. Because I feel like I feel like I get her humor. But then other times because I don't know her and I'm still like only two seasons in with her. I'm like, is she a mean girl?

But then it's like, no, maybe that's just like her humor. That's why people like reality TV is because you everyone can make these assumptions. But I also know, because it is reality TV it's like, oh, like people are

putting their opinion like what you see on the internet. Like it's like other people's so it's like who is she really? Well, so then that would be fun for the sake of this question to like actually start from the beginning and then you you really see people from like

from this instance would be like page from the beginning and like you know watch her character development and grow like whatever so I start in season 8 but I'm sure it gets good

I think starting maybe like the COVID season when they're all in that one house together might be like a fun place to start but I think season 8 is a good starting spot give that a right and then skip the reunion. Next question. No,

definitely go to the reunion. Go to this year's reunion because it's all about Jesse's toes being sucked. They were sucked. Ugh, fuck. Ew. Ew. Ew. Okay. Next. Hey, y'all. Just curious. What do you look

for in a significant other? Besides looks, what are attributes that you love to date someone with? Go fever. Noah. one thing for me I would say is not taking yourself too serious and I feel like I'm saying that because that's not like such a cliche answer I just think in this life being able to be

self deprecating and like laugh at yourself and like just realize it not everything is so fucking serious is such a breath of fresh air and like there's just so much there are so many things, especially kind of, at least for Sophie and I now, we're like, little things become a big deal because everyone else cares about them, you know, that like, I don't know, just being able to like realize that not everything is the biggest deal in the world, I think, is really refreshing. Yeah. Sof, yourself.

Yeah, I think for me, I think I want someone who's like friendly and fun. and like down to clown, kind of like a yes man. Spontaneous. Yeah, spontaneous. Like I want someone fun and adventurous and all that. But really I just want them friendly. But on a deeper level,

like that's like what I want. But on a deeper level, like if you're actually being serious with someone, I want someone who like really is going to like bring me peace. Bring me the patience. You know what I mean? Like loyal, faithful. And just like, I don't know,

just like a ride or die. You know? So if he looks for someone who's fun, kind, loyal, and faithful. That's pretty good. And tall and hot. What's tall to you?

What's tall to you? Ooh, I like this. I think minimum, minimum 6-4. Jesus Christ, Kev. Keep moving. Dude, I'm 6-1. And I like to wear heels.

Actually, I don't know if my new knee will allow that. But if you really think about it, 6-4 is not that small. Is it? Oh, God. Give me a break. If I wore Tim's and you wore flats, we'd look apart. Like, cord side. We need to make that fucking happen.

Oh, my God. That'd be so funny. You said, keep it moving. Dude, I'm a big girl. You have to remember, like, there's so many small girls that you have your, it is so much easier for you to find a girl than it is for me to find a guy. Trust. Like, dude, like how you said that a girl.

You're still a girl. I know, but I, I know. You just go outside. No, that's not true. Okay, listen to this. You said that the other day, someone said that you looked like a brick and you love that compliment. Yeah.

Someone told me I looked like a brick, like two months ago, because I have, No ass, no tits. And I'm like, yeah. You know what? You're right. I meant structurally, not surface. Same. Structurally, we damn near look the same.

And you probably have a fatter ass than me. I think I can confirm this thing fucking, saying things. All right. Next. Hey, Wes and Sophie. Hey, this is John. And I got a question. How much superstition play in your sports?

I mean, there are certain rituals that you have that you wouldn't change? Otherwise, you wouldn't feel like you would be able to produce 100%. Let me know what you think. I am not a superstitious person because I have faith. And so I feel like that, that is going to happen regardless. And so for me, especially in my line of work, there's so much that you can't control. And like our travel is always maybe messed up.

Our treatment schedule stuff could happen that like if you're too superstitious, then you're thrown off too much and then you're mentally just like screwed. So like for me, I just kind of go with the flow. I do like during the national anthem, I say my prayers and I do that. But I think that's kind of the only really superstitious thing. that I do. I'm not super stitious, but I'm a little stitious.

Oh, I know you're stitious, dude. I'm trying to think if I, like, I definitely wore the same exact same socks in college for every game.

That's absolutely fucking disgusting. Not like the same, I mean, first off, they're washed, relax, but I would wear like a,

like a dry fit, like athletic performance sock and then a bigger, baggy, what was it the same? What if one got stained? or ripped, would you still wear it or would you get a new one? Well, no, then you just get new ones, but like,

the same style of sock. Oh, that's different. No, that, I don't think that's superstitious at all. I didn't wear like... That's like your swag. That's like your... Yeah, and I wasn't like superstitious where you're not hygienic, but there are people who are like that. I, dude,

I know. Yeah. I don't think anything too bad, though. Like, I would do the same pre-game thing. I think people would, a lot of people would mistake like patterns or like game day rituals

for being like superstitious. But you kind of like, as an athlete, you just have patterns, routine. Yes. And I don't think routine, like I definitely have a routine.

But like if something dodges it, it's not like I'm like, oh God, I'm screwed. I'll say as a sports fan, though, I've been weird. Like I've gone to Royals and Chiefs games

and if I wore something and they lost, I wouldn't wear it again. Or if they won, I'd like keep wearing it until they lost. I had this cool oil's bomber jacket and I They won like seven games in a row that I went to in it

And so I kept wearing it And then finally do it I have a confession Our last game against Vegas I wore a Metallica shirt I changed I changed from my St. Louis Blues jersey

Oh which we're going to a blues game They DM'd me I DM'd them back And I'm like hey I want to come to a game Do you know when you're going? Not yet I need to look at the schedule But that'd be fun So I was like, you know, I packed a shirt that in 2021, when I was with the Phoenix, Mercury,

we went in there game five and we won on the last second. And I was like going through my clothes and I was wearing that Metallica shirt. And I had it packed and I was like, should I wear this? And I was like, I was kind of debating because I don't want to be superstitious. Like I just think that's just dumb. and but I knew I couldn't wear the St. Louis Blues jersey on the bench. And so I was like picking between outfits. And I was like, you know what?

We won last time. So why not? And so I wore it and we lost. So that's my confession. Do you guys not have rules where like you need team issued stuff? Like football, you would never be allowed to wear like an outfit on the sideline. Like it has to be like team issued. I feel like football.

Basketball, no one does. Yeah, football is different though. Like I feel like it's kind of like baseball too. Like football and baseball and like even hockey Like those types of sports you don't You don't see other places Like they're wearing what what? I was gonna say basketball

It's not to be the old fucking old guy Yeah well very individualized It is it is but I will say Where the team the team fucking Yeah I do feel that I'm lost No is that it's being lost Let me throw that in there

But here's my thing is like four years ago, you had a dress business casual, like very, very nice or wear team issued stuff. We're like now the NBA, it's like more, you saw a lot more guys wearing like,

kind of being fashiony and in that world. And like it made it okay. And then like randomly, I don't even know how it happened, but like the W started doing that and we didn't get in trouble for it. I did get in trouble for wearing hats on the bench this year. I didn't know that was the thing.

Yeah, so that was weird. But yeah, they, but it's kind of nice because I feel like basketball players, like, no offense. Like football players, I don't really, I think football and basketball players have the most swag, to be honest, like off court. And I think basketball players overall NBA have the best style, the majority of them. And I do. And so I think like them wearing whatever they went on the binge is like people want to see

that type of stuff. And I don't know. I think like now it's just a basketball thing. So now like we're allowed to do it. football you do get to swag out I think on the field more than any other sport because we have so many accessories and like shit going on that you can like really personalize how you look while you're playing for basketball you have like maybe an arm sleeve and a headband max but like you have to get that all approved like you people can't just go out there and wear an arm sleeve like you have to tell a like hey she has a something condition so that needs to she needs that. Like you can't just randomly one day be like, oh, I want to wear this.

Like I remember at least a year ago, I remember I was like, you had to get all that approved. Wow. Wow. Fun fact. Jumping through hoops. Yeah.

All right. Fuck yeah. Enjoy home. Give your mama hug for me. I will. And I got to fly to Montana tomorrow. Good luck. I'm so excited.

Thank you. I can't wait to talk about it, and you're going to kill it. You always kill that type of stuff, so you're going to be fine. Thanks. Love. Nothing but love. Bye, guys. Bye. American soccer has exploded.

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