Show Me Something - Sophie Cunningham on surgery struggles, Fever vs. Lynx WNBA matchups, Housewives chaos

Episode Date: August 26, 2025

The WNBA and Indiana Fever’s Sophie Cunningham opens up about her surgery recovery, while Bravo’s West Wilson dishes on his U.S. Open weekend full of tennis and Housewives sightings—including Meredith Marks officially stanning the pod. The duo also breaks down the Fever's latest Caitlin Clark-less matchup against the Minnesota Lynx and MVP front runner Naphessa Collier (repping Missouri), West’s thrifty fashion finds, and the ultimate debate—are you allowed to be an outfit repeater?#VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's West and Sophie, show me pod at 5. We've had so many things to like jump right into for all these episodes. And this one I want to celebrate if we made it through our first episode without you getting fined. Well, um,

yeah, I would like to know too, but I have had surgery and I've been on pain killers. So I actually haven't even got to see my GM and she's the one who pulls me aside. So it is still up in the air if I got fined or not. Is that what happens? Is that what happens?

Yeah. She like she does like this. Did you see me? I held up a two out of four. It's, it's the oxy talking. I was going to ask, what do they have you on? Are you partying? Well, honestly, that's been a freaking shit show.

No, listen to this. So I react so weird to like pain meds. And so I've had three surgeries and my meds have always been different because I just, like I I said I react from here to them. And so I was on, what was I on? It starts of an H. I'm blanking. Hydro, hydro.

Yes, hydros. Yes. Yeah, we'll just go then. Yeah, that was hydros. I was on hydros was not working. I could feel like every little like cut and incision they did on my knee. And so then I got to Oxy. And you're only supposed to take one, but like, again, I've got like a low tolerance to it.

And so I had to take like two and a half. And then I was finally feeling good. So let's stop into the surgery. How are you feeling? How was it? Everything smooth. Honestly, real good. Like they went in there and everything.

Oh, listen to this. Ha! They said for my age and for like what I do for living that my knees are looking real nice. Oh, fuck yeah. That's what he said. That is nice. That's reassuring to hear after a knee injury. Have you started PT?

A little bit. I've been doing a little bit of rehab, lots of icing, just trying to, like, get extension. Because, like, I guess with this knee surgery, I thought it'd be, like, the bending is what would be the hardest, but it's actually getting it straight. So a lot of people who get it, they have, like, a little curb in their knee because they can't straighten their legs. So I've been really trying to work on getting my leg straight. But I've kind of taken up being like you, and we should totally do this because I think people love this is I've been doing, I think I'm going to start doing, like, food reviews. Because I'm able to do that. Like, all I'm doing is sitting around and eating.

And, like, you do that quite a bit. I, people tend to like that stuff. And so I think they should start doing that. I don't know if you're still taking your drugs, but have fun. I am. Dude, pop a fucking whatever and then just like eat a pizza. I'm doing it and review it. You record yourself.

Well, I've been, I've been so bad because I hate, this is bad. Since I've had surgery, I had Burger King. I've had a box of donuts and I went to Texas Roadhouse. When's the last time you've heard of Texas Roadhouse? But do people talk about their roles all the time? Like people like when the Texas Red House rolls every day. So good. And they're funny.

Wait, I do want to tell you because as someone who had like life altering leg surgery, I, the most I ever weighed in college was 215. My sophomore year, it was a good 215. After I broke my leg, my junior year, it was a bad 215 because I, the only thing I had to like look forward to every day was because I didn't leave. the house for like a few weeks. They had to wait for the swelling to go down. Yeah.

Before I could like get surgery or PT. And it was like what movie was going to watch and what like pizza toppings was I going to get for the day. And I just ate because I had nothing else to do and nothing to like make me happy. So I ate so much post-surgery. Yeah. Before I could PT and I got fucking chubby, bruh, and. Well, that's okay.

I should actually wait myself. I was at, I'm at before surgery. I was at 157. but I will say I need to start taking laxatives. I was just going to say, painkillers are going to blow you up because it's impossible. I've been literally just inhaling food and nothing's come out. Not to be crazy,

but I'm pretty sure the reason Elvis, one of the reasons Elvis was so sick at the end of his life was because he was just crushing painkillers and so boated because he could never take dumps. I've never had that issue. but I'm starting to. And it's not great. Yeah.

I feel like when you, after you have surgery, that a part of your prescription is like laxatives. Sometimes they'll, like, throw them in there because you. They should, or at least like stool softners. Like, you should do something because, yeah. Let me tell you. But, dude, you had.

Thank you. I'll send you a text. That'll be an update next week's pod. I'll be like, so. There you go. Yeah. If I don't have an update, then I'll probably be back in the hospital. Yeah.

That's true. What is it the expert? What is it called? An enema. Enema. Yeah. That sounds fun right now. Anyway, you had a busy weekend, I feel like.

A lot of like fun updates. Oh, how's fun for you? Dude, motherfucker. It fucking rained and we couldn't do it. They canceled? Wait, they cancel it? It was like, yeah,

supposed to be on a rooftop and it got canceled. So we like went downstairs. and played like some little games. I don't know. I mean, it was a cute deal, but. Don't be mad at me, but like, I feel like in the Midwest, if it rains, like, that makes them more fun. Are people too bougie to get their hair wet or what's going on?

No, just because it was like a corporate thing that I don't think that they were going to like make everyone like go play in a rain. And like tennis shoes, maybe it's like, because I just signed a waiver before I got there. Hmm. So. They didn't want rule to get hurt. I guess, which, whatever. It's fine.

I mean, that's valid. I agree with that. Tell us about U.S. Open, though. Yes. Oh, my gosh. I have so many questions. The U.S. Open is a major sporting event. It's one of New York's probably, like, more iconic sporting events.

I'm working on appreciating this sport. I think watching tennis, you can tell they're, like, incredible athletes. I just the country club sports of it all, like where you're quiet and, like, it feels so, and like everyone's dressed up. I'm working to get there to like really appreciate it and follow it. But if we're being totally honest,

the U.S. Open in New York, I mean, I feel like it's kind of a social event to be totally honest. Okay, that was my question. I was like, do people really go there to watch and appreciate tennis or like, is it more of you get to go

and see well, like people are wearing, you get to go meet fun people? Like, who did you meet? Did you get to meet anyone from? So a lot of people I knew, but, okay, a good tee up. So, okay, I am not, like, obviously I don't watch housewives, okay, but a lot of people do. And I've been, like, meeting them throughout this, the last few years.

And, like, I just feel like there couldn't be much more like a polar opposite, like, figure than, like, kind of everything I stand for is, like, beer, football and, like, boo wearing boots. And then, like, these housewives are, like, so rich and, like, pretty. and like just like go on vacations every day. Like I don't know. I just think it's so fun for me to meet them and like get to know them. And, um, okay,

so do you know, have you heard of Merit of Marx? Do you know who this is? I do. Okay. Did you meet her? Yeah. So she was with us.

Beautiful woman. Very cool. Yeah. Also she started, she's like a DJ now. But I, she, I was like,

she's from Chicago and we started talking about, I was like, I love to ask like, so are you like cubs or white socks? Like just a classic little Chicago question. And she was like, you know what? I'm not like a super diehard team sports lady, except I'm so into the WNBA right now.

You're lying. You're lying. She's like, I love the WNBA. And I go, okay, not to like make this about me, but I just dropped a WNBA podcast like four weeks ago. She goes, shut up, like show me. Like she was so hype. Just the last person you'd think in a U.S. Open suite,

he was going to be like, I need to see your W&BA podcast. And I showed her and I was like, do you know who Sophie Cunningham is? And she goes, yeah, like that girl fucking rocks. Like she's so sick. And I was like, you're coming on the podcast. You're coming on the podcast, Meredith. We totally should.

Would she be down? She was like if Bravo's approved it, like, let's do it. Wait, so this might be dumb on my end, but are all housewives Bravo? Yes. Yeah. Oh. So there's cities. So it's city-based.

So like- No, I know. I knew that. just for, I didn't know that Bravo was the one that did all that. Mm-hmm. I don't know what the first one was. I think it was like Beverly Hills maybe, but yeah. Dude, they're like icons.

Can we please get her on the show? I'm not even lying. No, and I think you're like you and I would have so, well, we're going to have like a lot of, we know a lot of sports people, you and I. Yeah. And we'll have a lot of sports guests, but like to kick it off with a housewife would be so fun. And she's down. We just got to like get it, get it going.

Oh, I love that. I love all the time. And I think she knows ball. Do you think that she could help me become a housewife and get on one of those shows? Do you have to be one of them? I would imagine that you probably, originally the format was you have to be married, but I know there are a lot of people who are not, I'm pretty sure.

Well, not a lot, but I just know, like, there's like real houses of New York had a girl I know who was, like, not married. So maybe you don't. I don't know. But it's standard to be married, though. Well, yeah. Wait, what did you wear to the U.S. Open? So we did.

So I went with Amazon and they like dressed us. Oh, nice. Tennis is just very like, it's like loose fitting summary color. So it's like a lot of white. Like all the ladies were like, it's a lot of like pretty dresses and the guys. It's like you don't, it doesn't have to be like tucked in. It's like white linen pants. Like I had a like.

Yeah, like a swaggy. like a almost like a um the hamptons type vibe right yeah honestly honestly yes but like comfortable and like summary um i did that and then yeah it was just a fun little day you take the bus out and just like watch some tennis but there i do know some people that were there because they are like tennis heads and know what's going on for people who like i'd never been and i think a lot of people just seen on tv like i want to go but really can't because it's during season but like who like who's there like what famous people are there and like is the food that good? Like, are there drinks everywhere? Like, give me the, give me the setup.

Give me the vibe. I wish we could. So the talk of the town, they have these drinks called, uh, it's called a honeyduce. So obviously it's like honeydew and then deuce is like a fucking tennis word. Uh, supposedly, also I was in the sweet with Kyle last night. He's like, guys, I have fun facts. Like I need to tell you, like, just yelling. Oh, God. He, he said that the, the revenue that they make from this one drink. So also, it's like a, it's like a little like summertime little cocktail, but then the toothpick is like three perfectly circled melons so that they look like tennis balls.

And that goes into the drink. Imagine having that job. That would suck ass. How many people would cut the freaking melon? Into a circle? I bet it's like a spoon or something. Yeah. Like a little.

The revenue that they make from these drinks, which. Obviously, very overpriced. It's enough to pay the prize money for the men's and women's champion of the U.S. Open. You're lying. I swear to God. Let's Google it, honestly. How much is it for drink? Dude, I think it's a 20-0.

The U.S. Open sold a record $12.8 million worth of its signature honey-deuce cocktail in 2024. Why? How? With sales projected to reach over $10 million for the tournament and continually to grow. Can we like make our own drink and sell it? If people are making $10 million, you have me fucked up. We've drinking enough that we can come over their own. It's gray goose vodka, lemonade, raspy lique, and then the melon balls. Dude, low-key sounds amazing.

It's very summary. I would pay probably $23 for that. Yeah, honestly. Or we can make it a little bit more white trash and maybe not use gray goose and maybe some Tito's or some kettle. Some burnettes? Yeah, we could we could sell ours on the side. What did, what? What was the cheapest, like, booze that people drank when you were like a freshman in college?

Do you remember? Oh, like vodka, smearing off. U.E. Blue. Dude, there was this, there was a vodka in Montana called Nicolai and they sold it in, like, the, the pint was plastic. Like it wasn't even glass. Did you ever drink Mad Dog? No, what is that?

Why don't you go to your local the coer store and see if they have it? Okay. But wait, hold on. So what was there like to eat there? Like, is the food bougie? Like, is everything bougie at the U.S. Open? It looks like it.

I just have never been, so I don't know. It definitely is. We were in a suite, so it was all very like for us. But I mean, like, it was, yeah, it was like sushi and lobster rolls. Wait, was it a Bravo suite or was it just a... No, Amazon just took a bunch of like New York City people and we like all bust out there together. It was actually, it was really fun.

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I don't know. People are going to kill me. Medvedev. Whatever. When is the U.S. Open, like, when is the winner announced? Like, when's the championship game? Sophie, if I'm going to keep, if I'm going to be so honest with you, I just kind of, the U.S. opens one of those things.

I just, I just show up. I don't know what the fuck's going on. I think a lot of people just show up to this one. Yeah. It's more for, like, the vibes and who you're, going to be with type five. Same with like, I mean, I feel like that's the thing with a lot of

sporting events. Like, the reason I think that the Super Bowl is kind of like, is it's so fucking corporate and like it's not. Yeah. I mean, there are, there are clearly fans, but it's like such a like businessy influence or celebrity event where like, I hate to say it, but championships with series,

so like World Series, NBA finals, that are at like home stadiums are so sick because it's a home stadium. It's like fans who go to every game. And you just get a little bit more of that like purity that you don't get from like a one-off event. Honestly, I hear that about everyone who attends the Super Bowl and like the cheese has been in it. You know, because.

But even the people there, they're like, I'd much rather stay at home and watch it with all my friends and stuff because when you get there, everyone makes it look like it's way more fun and stuff than it really is. so I just don't I just it's hard for me to get behind that type of stuff AFC championship is like at Arrowhead is the coolest like event I've ever been to

and we'll always go to because it's like just fucking so magical do you get what I'm saying though like when people are authentic it's like the environment is authentic that shit is the most fun I hate like all the fake fluff shit I just I can't get behind that for some reason how many um

do you all do how many like neutral site games have you played? Like, I know you did the thing in Iowa, where that was like so random. I actually can't believe that you guys did that shit. Well, that's like preseason and like in Caitlin, like, that it was random, but it made sense too because you're still going to bring a crowd,

but the W doesn't do neutral sites. Yeah, but name a sport that has played a professional sport that's played at their at someone's alma mater. Like, that's never happened before. That's crazy. No, but it's becoming more of a thing like they did it for Angel Reset, LSU. I think they, I think they'll continue to do it because it honestly, especially if you're, if there's a WMBA team that's not close by those universities, it's going to draw fans.

And so I think it's actually really smart, especially if they have a following. Like, I think that, I think it's genius. I have no, I think it's fun kind of going back to the college stadiums and having those girls kind of get to be a part of it too, that like the, like the, the, the, the, the, girls who are actually a part of the team currently. And so I don't know. I think that's a smart move by the WMBA. Look at me supporting it. No, fuck yeah. Let's like whatever

a reverse fine is. Oh, for them to give me my money back because I said something positive. Yeah. But I mean, I'm not a hair of the WMBA. I'm a proud supporter and, but it's just some of their stuff. This doesn't make sense to me. Yeah, but I remember seeing you guys play at in Iowa City and I was like, Dude, this is packed.

It was super cool. So much cloud. Dude, I know. Speaking of W, we just, you want to get into it? Because I have some things to say. I have some things to get off my chest. Yeah. So we, Indiana Fever, have played Minnesota back to back.

And they're like really fucking good. Like they are a hot team right now. And they're doing so, so good. But to me, Minnesota's offense is, I know people have opinions about Cheryl, who's that's their head coach, but she is a genius when it comes to freaking being a head coach.

Like their offense. Schematically like everything. How they play on the floor, how she manages like the bench. Yeah. Yes. Like how they have stacked the team and like it is a little bit more old school. But like I,

that's my type of vibe, I think. Like they run a motion offense. Everyone on their floor can shoot. Everyone cuts. Everyone passes the ball. They make this simple pass and the ball movement that they have is ridiculous. Like they are stacked. And actually, oh, Nefisa Collier, she was lived in Jeff City for a little bit.

And then she moved to St. Louis. So I played against- Oh, she's a Missouri girl. Yeah, since like six, seventh grade. What high school did she go to? She went to Incarnate Word. I know Incarnate Word's nice. Yeah.

So she spent a year, Jeff City, I think, her freshman year. And then she, they moved to St. St. Louis for her to be a part of Incarnate Word, which is like a stacked basketball team play. When we won state, what high school did you? I won four times. So which time? That's so fucking crazy.

I so much can't believe that. I guess your first two years then when I would have been there. Because wasn't one of them incarnate word? Yeah, I think so. She wasn't on the team at the time. I think that was my freshman year. But Nefisa is good. Like she is probably the best player in our league.

She's a hell of the player. Damn. Yeah, like, has every thing in her bag. But she also... Go for. You go? No, you're good. I was going to say, would you,

credit, like, high-end ball movement to a head coach rather than just, like, rock sartine chemistry? Yeah, well, I think that's both. Yeah, I think since Fee has been there, So Maya Moore, the legend of our game, used to be there. And then, like, they kind of went through a little, a little bit of a slump. And then they drafted into FISA. And Fee, I'm not kidding.

Like, she's a hell of a player. Like, she's defensive player the year last year. I'm pretty sure. She can guard one through five. And then she can shoot three ball. How tall is she? Like six, two. But she's long and she's strong.

Like, she is a hell low player. She's fun to watch. Hard to play against, but she's been to watch. Yeah. But I would say that the. The teams that you find or see successful in our league, everyone on the floor can score. And it's mainly shooters or they can get to the rim or cutters.

But it's really like the ball movement. Like when you have a motion offense that everyone can cut, everybody can pass, everyone can dribble and handle the ball. Like that is freaking hard to guard. And Minnesota has that. Like, that's... Would you say, I mean, I feel like that kind of is parallel to the way the NBA is of all their bigs are shooting the ball.

Well, yeah, like, you don't really see a lot of standard post players anymore. And if you do, they're really only in for a short period of time because normally, typically, they can't handle the pace of the game. Or, like, if they can't shoot the ball, then, like, it allows defenses to help on other stronger players offensively or, like, they're in a drop position. So they're, like, the defenses in the paint, which is never good, especially if you have shooters coming off screens because that's easier for them to get a shot. Also, it just makes it difficult.

You don't really see a lot of those players anymore. Do you, like, when do you think that that trend started? Like, I think a lot of people would say that the NBA that started when, like, obviously Steph made the three point, like the shot at fucking cheat code. And, I mean, Kaelin did that too, but she's, like, very, very new. Yeah. But it's interesting to see similarities between both leagues, I feel like. And certainly the value of the three-point shot.

has grown and the like less of a need for like bigs. Yeah. It's so interesting how they kind of have like evolved in like very parallel. Yeah. Well, well, I think that what you first saw that in our game, I would say with like Candace Parker. Like she was kind of the first like point forward, I would say. Like she's what, six four, six five.

She can handle the ball. She can shoot it. But also if you try to put a little guard on her, she's going to take you to the post. And I think that's kind of where you saw the adjustment is on the NBA side and WBA side, it's like these kids from a young age, regardless of how tall or how big they were going to be, they started doing ball handling. They started learning how to pass.

They started doing more guard work than just typical post moves. And so like that, think about it, that's hard to guard because if you have a small on you, you're just going to go post them up. But if you have a big on you and you're on the perimeter, you're either going to shoot or drive right by them because typically they're going to be slower. So it just makes it a, I know my kids are going to be freaking guards. Like they are going to learn how to be guards regardless of how big they are. Got it is so fascinating.

But anyways, Minnesota and the fever. Yep. Do you show I date? You know what? We are going through it, but we are fighting, like, they're never one in the league right now. And they are, our team has fought. Like, we only lost by, I don't know what it was last night. I can't remember the score.

But we kept it within like 10 or 11. in throughout the whole game. And for us to have the roster we do, that's pretty freaking bit. What's it been like watching your roster just kind of get blown up and like you're just kind of trying to figure shit out from scratch?

Like, I mean, it's frustrating, but at the same time, I, sports are weird because like, I know it sucks, but in the big picture because it's, you know, the season is not going the way we'd all like. But like, there's weird, like, poetry and beauty and, like,

people are hurt. Like other people have to like step up. We like, no one believes in us. I just like watching it kind of play out and see who can rise up. And like, I mean, other people getting opportunities like there are silver linings and everything.

But your team is just destroyed. Going through. And I think that what you had to say, all of that is like so valid and real. And I think you've definitely felt that when when you were playing. I also think that like with that it's funny because. any, the whole season as a whole, like you just have to peak at the right time, right?

Like that's what it is. And so you see teams early in the season, oh, we didn't know they were going to be good. Well, maybe they peaked too soon. Or the teams that are typically good, they were going through it in the beginning. And now they're starting to peak like Vegas. Atlanta has always been good all season long,

and they're going to be a hell of a team. But Vegas, I mean, they've won their past like 10 games, but they struggled really bad at the beginning of season, but they're starting to peak at the right time. But I think when you have a situation like us where it's just you have a new roster literally every five days, it's like you want to peak. But at this point, you're just trying to catch some type of rhythm.

You're trying to get chemistry. Like we just brought in a girl who was training in Turkey, right? Like she's been in the W, but she hasn't been the W in a couple of years. And so it's just like at some point, and this is me just being real, it's like you can keep saying, oh, you know, it's just part of the game, It was just professional, but like, you can't, at the end of the day, it's hard to catch a rhythm and chemistry when you only have two days together. Like, you know what I mean? Especially when you're going against the best athletes in the entire world.

Like, that shit's freaking hard. What to you, is the right time to peak? And how does that happen? Like, team chemistry. Well, I know it's everything, but like, from your lens, like, when is the right time to peak and how? I think you want to start peaking and you want to start really catching like chemistry and rhythm after all-star break or maybe like a game or two before all-star break. Because I think that like the team has to go through adversity. Like you have to know how to handle tough situations.

You have to learn how to lose bad and learn from it. Like that's just a part of a season. That's part of the highs and lows. But I think you definitely want to start peeking and trending in the right direction like right out. after All-Star Break, because that's when you have that momentum going. And so I think we actually were doing that. Like we were doing well before I'll start break and right after. But then, man, like the injury bug just fucking came in and killed us all.

Yeah. Not all of it. You know what I mean? Well, I was just going to say one more thing. Yeah. You're an aunt now or you already were. Yeah. Dude, you know that when we were on our last podcast,

they she was like she had her baby during that time like before we cut yeah yeah that's insane pipby claire yeah give us the give us name wait oh god what her interests are going to be um her name's pippy clark hudson um i usually is cute yeah i go cute too cute is a very cute name. Yeah. And I think she was born at like 2.12, central time. Well, what's her horoscope for everyone wondering? Or just let us know, what is she going to be like?

Is she a ferocious leader? I think it's, is it Leo's right now? She is born three days after my birthday. Oh. That's fun. So I'm either going to love her or want to kill her because we're going to be a lot of like. I feel like you'll be a great,

you're like you were born to be an aunt. Thanks. It's not me not, I wasn't being a mom. No, that is not what it means. It means you're, thanks, West. No, it just means like you'll be the cool aunt

who like breaks the rules a little and played in the WNBA. And can spoil them. Yeah, that's all positive. Cool, rich aunt. Great. I'm going to have 100 cats a little bit. I'm only flexing this because I know that they watch the pod,

but I'm literally on DoorDash. Oh, no, yeah. Dude, no joke. I literally use DoorDash probably seven to 10 times a week. Well, now it's going to be worse because you're stuck at home. All right. What's going on in your world? Anything fun?

Anything upcoming, like update us. Ashley, good question. See this jacket? Yeah. Um, it's so it's, they're called Pluto golf. It's like a golf street wear brand. They're like, they're like meeting in the middle. So it's like all golf stuff, but it's kind of just like swaggy anyways.

Um, and it's a collab of Captain Morton and it's, dude, I was wondering. I thought, oh, no, it looks real swaggy. Is it kind of like a ski top or like what material is that? It's like, um, I don't know. It's like, it feels like a rain jacket, like because it's still for golf. So like, it's for outside. Dude, I know you're like golf. It's like freezing.

Well, we had to cut my fan off because it was too loud. I'm actually okay today. But I like modeled for them. And so and then these dropped last week or like on Saturday. Wait, you did some modeling? Yeah, fucking for like golf pictures. Did you not see? It's kind of sick, I feel like.

I'm like, I'm working on it. Like they're kind of fun. It never picks up. Oh, do me. Yeah. Or no. Go back. Yeah, right there.

Yeah, you're a vibe. Yeah. Like, it's like cool stuff. And then I did, like, in a studio, like with a golf club and shit. Dude, we need to do something like that together. I think we, oh, so many people are asking for us to drop merch. We need to get on that. Yeah, I figured out what it would be.

Like, I want to just make Rockbridge High School vintage T-shirts. She's the only thing I want to do. Okay. We'll sell those on the side. You know what? The world is ours. We could do whatever the hell we want. So we can do that.

We can do our merch. We can have a shirt with your face on it, a shirt with my face on it, together our faces. You got your bandana? Dude, yeah. But I, my. Oh, my God, you're not going to even have a tunnel walk through this year. No, I am.

I am. And I'm literally going just for you. Oh, shit. Dude, guess what? What? Guess who I kind of gets a model for? Who?

It's, she does all the really cool jackets for all like the Y stuff. Kristen, use check. Kristen use check. Yeah, so she,

her company off brand, like her designer brand, she is going to the W and so I'm going to be one of the first W players to rock her style in tomorrow's out, in tomorrow's tunnel fit. Wait,

hell yeah. Is it like similar to like the football and she'd be it? But she made Taylor a coat, but that was sick. Okay, first of all, I want to give her a huge shout out because she seems like, never met her in person, but she seems like the nicest human, and she's stunning. Like, actually stuck.

This is so random you bring her up because at the flag football thing I was at, they were all like, oh, we partnered with Christian Newscheck. I forget what it was for, but they were like glowing, talking about her. So she's. We need to get her on the podcast. That would be sick. That would be so tight. I told her I'm coming to a game.

We're going to hang out. She seems like my type of chick. Wait, Ashley, will you sprinkle that to her? Yes. Like, yeah, before someone else. That would be really fun because she's like very much in the NFL world, but also like a fashionista. Dude, and we do, oh, what if she styled us and we did like an in-person?

Dude, I think she made Paige DeSorbo a jacket from the Super Bowl this past year. Oh, yeah. She's like, she's like really crushing. Yeah, I really like her. Well, dude, we're kind of like in sync right now. Oh, it's weird. Yesterday, Abercrombie announced it they're the official merchandiser of the NFL. How crazy is that?

I kind of like that. No, it's sick. Once the last time we've been to it? I've been in one, but like, I wear their stuff all the time. They have like the best. Abercrombie might have had the best rebrand in the history of like the world possibly Remember they were the moose and the cologne and like

I know and it still sounds good but I went in there when we played out in Phoenix at Fashion Square Mall no joke their shit's kind of expensive but it's not a little pricey I think they want to keep the allure that they're like not cheap. And so, but they just, they have so much cool stuff.

I have cheese stuff from them. Wait, do you, do you feel like you're more of a bargain and cheap buyer? Are you more like, let's get, let me be booze and let me spend some money? I don't buy, like, I don't really wear a designer. Like, everything I wear is from eBay or like thrift stop,

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Be Human on I-Hard Radio, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Uh, I've, thanks for asking that because I, if I was wearing designer shit,

I feel like everyone else would be wearing it and I feel like I've kind of carved my own little niche for fashion and it's very it's like individual pieces it's like stuff I find on eBay or like cool pants um from like random places and just like piecing everything together I don't really I don't think that the name like this is not so corny but like a designer name or like watched is not like it doesn't do it for me to be honest I get it but I rather like puzzle and outfit

together than buy a shirt that says fucking Gucci on it or some shit you know. I think having good staple pieces

that you can mix and match are good I don't think I would ever buy I don't think I would ever truly really buy designer clothes but I think my reasoning

for it is one it's just too overpriced and it's not really me but really like I can't eat or go out without filling stuff on me I think that's an issue

That's perfect. Yeah. But what about pregame? Do you, like, do you have a stylist for pregame? Yeah, sometimes. And like the ones you can tell the ones that she does. And like, I will spend money on clothes. Like, I like looking nice and I like dressing up.

Like, I think that's super fun. But I just, I'm saying, like, I can never get myself to spend, like, like, when people spend a thousand, a thousand plus dollars on, like, a white shirt that you could literally get at. Zara or Walmart or Target that all look the same. Like I could never get myself to do something like that. But I do like good staples and whatnot. Does that make sense?

Yeah, of course. I'll say I've done designer or like high-end brand stuff if I'm like borrowing it for true. Like when we do like reunions and shit like I'll wear like the suit will be expensive but it's like for the day. Yeah. And then it gets returned to like wherever. Yeah, I think that's valid.

But I also think, like, I've done that before, and then, like, I end up really liking the pants. And so, yeah, maybe a couple hundred, maybe, you know, and, like, but I wear them all the time. Like, they get good use, and they're going to last. People don't talk about this enough, but once you're doing stuff like your tunnel fits or, like, a lot of the places I'm going are, like, on TV and now, like, we have Instagrams. You can't be an outfit repeater. No, you can't. Which is why I feel like I try to keep. like make the outfit puzzle it together so then you can kind of like reuse a piece or like

something else. Yes. Yes. And people might not notice, but you can't like, you literally cannot be an outfit repeater or. No, I know. But I think that's also, I think that's so good that you said that because I think when when people are like, oh, you are like, no, like that's a good staple piece. That's what I meant by that. Like, good, having good solid pants that you can wear with multiple outfits, good solid shirt or jacket. Like I think that's valid because I use. to not use a stylist that like she goes and gets the clothes and I wear them and then I give them back. Like I'm not paying for her. I'm just paying for her service. But when I didn't do that, you rack up so many clothes and it's like it's stupid. Like it's so dumb. Like I, I don't know. I end up

giving them away anyway. So I'd much rather not pay for that type of stuff. Part of the main reason I like really needed to move this summer was I. And also like you and I get gifted stuff a lot. So there's like, there's like that part of the clothing collection that like is, it just adds to it. But I would, I lived in and I still live in a little New York apartment. Like there's not, you can't be a hoarder or like keep all your stuff if you live in New York City. Like it kind of, it kind of, an interesting thing with New York City apartments is you have to be creative with storage, closet space, where you're putting stuff.

Like, it's fun to go to those apartments and see, like, oh, like, you're using this for storage. Like, here's where your suits are. Here's where your shoes are. In New York, you cannot keep the stuff. It's, like, really hard because you'll be overflown, overflown. But I learned to give, I learned to give mine away.

Like, other people want that stuff. And, like, I don't want to throw it away because a lot of this stuff is really nice. And, like, I'll keep what I want or I'll use. or I'll use it and then I'll give it away. But like my house in Phoenix, I designated a whole room that is a toddler's room as another closet and that's even over-packed. I'm like, okay, this is getting out of control.

Like I need to, I've been blessed with a lot, so it's time for me to give back. Did you level up, like, living situations when you moved to entity? I used your apartment bigger. Well, I lived in a house in Phoenix. So I don't know if it's leveling up, but I think the team housing,

why is that this is bigger? But you also like the market of Phoenix and the market of Indy are too different. Wait, I think people would be really interested to know how that works. So like say you get traded, you're moving to a new city, sometimes across the country.

You don't have time to probably pack up your house or move everything because you have to do press, you have practice, you have stuff to do. How does the team like help, you when you're in the process of like moving to ND? Yeah. So they will, I got lucky because I had months to kind of prepare.

But even with that, they will pay for, they pay for shipping. They do all that. So anything you have to move, if it's your car, plus bags, plus whatever, they pay for all that. And so each team will, we'll do that. And then you can choose to do team housing, which is paid for by the team. You're living rent free. typically you are in an apartment

or you can get like a stipend of X amount of money a month if you want to like live buy get a house or do whatever and so I think it really depends on how long your contract is for one if you like the city if you're wanting

to buy if you're wanting to be here year round like all that stuff kind of comes into play but the W does give you options I think in this next CBA hopefully it'll be a little bit more money a little bit better options but I will say like Phoenix did a really good job of, I think in the last two years I was with them with team housing.

Like we stayed at the nicest places. And then Indiana, they really take care of you here too. So I've been lucky there because there's some teams that not great. What's the like, how long of a contract do you think someone for any sport would need before they wanted to like look into buying a house? Like it's just so like, I don't know,

not in your control. that a buying would just feel like super overwhelming to me. Well, I would say, I think it depends too, like, are you married? Do you have a family? Are you wanting to start a family? Do you have pets? Like, all that stuff comes into play. But I do think that, like, if you're there for, I think two years, I would really say

three is comfortable. I think if you're there for three years, then I would look into buying a house. Even two years, because you're there a lot, right? But I don't know. I think a lot of people really still use team housing. Like, think about it. I'm 28 and I'm living rent-free. Like, I don't, besides like my phone and car,

well, actually, it's starting to, but I really am kind of living expense-free besides a couple things. So it's kind of nice. That's so awesome. Save your money, Sophie. Yeah. Okay. Well, obviously, you and I bid chiefs,

but you do live in Indianapolis? Yeah. I've always wondered also as professional athletes you're in the city and like those fans who like root for the fever are like definitely Colts and Pacer's fans.

Do you feel an obligation going into this fall to like you don't need to like claim the Colts but like support them maybe pop it into a game or a little blue or you Chiefs, they'll never, I won't even look at the Colts. Also, Daniel Jones, new starting quarterback.

Congratulations to the universe. It's very exciting. Is that a good thing? I would probably say no. Oh. I don't know enough about. They'll figure it out. Yeah.

I'm not, I don't, that's my issue is, I like to kind of, is it engulf or indulge? Engulf myself? Well, indulge then is probably what I would go with. Indulge. I like to kind of indulge myself of where my two feet are at and like what city I'm in. And so like when I was in Phoenix, I became a Diamondback span and a Cardinal span and like a coyote span. They moved and stuff.

So like I really try to be, I want to get involved in the city. Like I like that. And so here I've definitely become a Pacer span. I think that I'll definitely go and check out the Colts. Like I don't have any beef with them. I don't, I don't. Beautiful stadium. Beautiful.

I mean, I can see it from my apartment. But I think deep down I'll always have my team, which is the chief. But I'm so down to go and support the team. Like, I'm all for that. I'm not, I'm not weird about that. I think of like Jason Tatum, for example. Yeah. Like in Boston could be a Red Sox fan.

That dude loves St. Louis so much that he, like, it's Cardinals hats, Cardinals jerseys, blue jerseys, like no matter what. But do think about it. He was raised in St. Louis, though. Like if we were in Columbia, where we get the pick. So it's a little different. Yeah. Well, no, but I just mean the opportunity you have to either embrace the city that you're

going to be in or just stick to like where you're from. And I don't think there's a wrong answer. But like he fully is like St. Louis all the way. And I admire him for that. But there's also people who like. you know, do embrace the city there and then kind of like become one with that city. Well, I think that I'm not, no, I get that.

And I get what you're saying. I think for me, I am not shy. Like, everyone knows I'm a huge cheese fan. Like, and I am. Yeah. Like, if Colts and cheese are playing, cheese all the way. You know what I mean?

But like, will I go and support the Colts for a game? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's perfect. And it's just good to like, it's nice to get in front of like the same sports fans who like,

show you love and indie and support their other people. I think that's totally the right play. Wait, do you want to know something though? I will say like when I when I went to a Cardinals game though the whole time I was just like

kind of judging and comparing how much better Arizona Cardinals. The Chiefs game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I was just comparing everything to like how much better the Chiefs in our stadium and our tailgating and our fans

are. Not a lot of, I am a lot more hardcore than I think. Not a lot of venues are going to compete with Arrowhead. And you and I are biased, but I will die at hell until I'm dead. That's dope.

What else before I see X time? Hopefully you have a BM by the next podcast. A baby mama? Kidding. Bout movement. Oh, you knew.

Hopefully you have a BN. Dude, is there anything else going in your world this week? Anything that we should report to next week? I did charity event on Thursday for a dog. It's not a dog shelter in New York City, but it's for abandoned dogs to, like, are actively being fostered and need homes.

And it was, it felt so good to like, like when I film the show, there's a lot of bars and a lot of drinking and, like, drama, you know, and it feels good to like really do something, that like is important and like helps people and they were so thankful and so nice and like basically we got up one of my favorite bars they just brought like six of the dogs in and just let them like hang out and then the bar the bar tab a percentage of it went to like their medical

bills and then all the people who were fostering them came to and so like the idea is that people can meet them and then hopefully adopt but even it's just a day to give the dogs like some love and bring him outside. It was like, oh my God, one of them. His name was Mac. We were doing a little picture booth. And he walked up and he like wasn't, like he couldn't really focus because he was like so overstimulated.

And I'm sitting right by it. And then he takes two steps across my lap and just stops and sits in my lap. And I was pretty cold. Heart melted. Wait, can I ask you something? Yeah. Do you think, because I think Bravo and complex and what you do has giving you the platform to do stuff like that.

that, but do you feel like you catch yourself wanting to do stuff that is like more fulfilling? What I love naturally, probably the most apparent, is like sports. I've played sports my whole life. I feel like sports is the reason I see my family a lot in the fall. I see my friends because of sports. Like, not just being an athlete, but like the culture of sports has played a huge role in my life. And I feel like that's something. I'm just kind of not leaving despite the like TV show.

of it all. Like, I'm still doing the NFL network. And, like, I mean, I would consider you and I doing a sports podcast. But, like, as far as, like, charity goes, I do think dogs is so easy for me just coming from a family that, like, has always had, like, animals, big animals, always had dogs. Like, not that I don't empathize with human beings. Like there's a zillion charities for like great causes. But there's just something about animals that I feel like feels so rewarding.

And I don't know how to like grow like necessarily like we're growing in like the charity lane comes. But like obviously we do have platforms and we're given opportunities to like give back. And I think I found that a lot of the times once you kind of see. step into something with your platform, like, given a shot, then it kind of grows on its own. So, like, yeah, I did a dog event in like June and Central Park. And like, I think that, you know, people saw, oh, he's doing work with like for animals in New York. And then it just kind of grows. So like, yeah, I would do that. And obviously, my family has cows and horses if someone, you know, want to do anything. But also, I will say, um, only starts talking to someone about this last night in the

in the little sweet. But given my. my mom's work, I do find like women's health and like women's rights to be something that I find interesting just given I've listened to my mom, learn and grow and like have so many

like fierce opinions about just like where women's health is. And I feel like that's something that I've I've been like a little bit vocal on and we'll see if that like picks up. But I met someone last night who works for like a women's health charity and like I'm going to talk of him like doing stuff. So that's another niche one. But I think it's important for it to like come from somewhere so that it's not just like

throwing a dart on a board and being like, oh, let me like choose to care about this now. Like these are all things that are like like I grew up caring about. Yeah. Well, it kind of goes back to like the, not to bring it back to this, but it's like the same type of viber or a perspective of like going to a cerebral when it's all corporate and it's not authentic. Yeah. Yeah. You're doing something like a charity or something you want to get behind and support. If you don't fully believe in it, then you're just going to half ass it.

And that's never going to be good. But like you actually are authentic and you care about it and it's something you're passing about. Then like that totally reflects of how you're going to handle and how you're going to treat whatever. People notice that type of stuff. So I like that. And I and I have got. I remember to do a lot of like charity events for cancer because Jesse. Solomon is two-time survivor.

And like clearly that's such a natural. cause for him to like be vocal on and get back to. And so I've been doing stuff with him and it's almost like, yes, I am with him doing something for the greater good, but it's almost like watching him get to give back in something that affected his life and something that he really, really cares about is almost like just as cool for me to do with him, you know? Yeah. So stuff like that's super dope. I love that. But I love that. I feel like that's a good way to end. I like the most positive note ever. I agree. Are you going to pop some pills? Um, might as well.

I'm 45 minutes past. Yes, I need to. That's beautiful. We're saying goodbye so Sophie can take some painkillers, but I just want to give a shout out for the end of this podcast. Week 1 of college football this weekend, Montana State plays at Oregon. And I just got to say, go cats.

I couldn't do this whole podcast without saying go cats. Fucking, let's go into Austin Stadium and Eugene, Oregon. And shock the country, boys and girls. Let's go duck hunting. I don't know who Mizzu plays, but Montana State, go get it done. And I'll give a little shout out. My little cousin, first time playing in the Mizzou uniform. Let's go get.

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