Show Me Something - Sophie Cunningham Talks Torn MCL, Caitlin Clark’s Recovery & Summer House Stories with West Wilson

Episode Date: August 20, 2025

Indiana Fever’s Sophie Cunningham drops major news—confirming her torn MCL and that she’s officially done for the season. Sophie and West Wilson react to the Fever’s largest comeback win, Kelsey Mitchell’s hot streak, and Caitlin Clark’s mentality as she rehabs from injury. Later, the duo react to a fake Justin Bieber tricking a Las Vegas nightclub, talk Bravo’s "Summer House” love stories, including Kyle Cooke’s DJ adventures, and Amanda Batula’s injuries.00:00 - Start1:00 - Sophie confirms she tore mcl5:00 - Bria Hartley not dirty foul 7:15 - Sophie telling Mom stand down 8:33 - West recalls his broken leg 9:00 - Sophie gets fined every episode!12:00 - Caitlin Clark rehab from injury13:00 - Talking Caitlin’s mentality while sidelined14:00 - Sophie asks about Summer House 14:30- Finding love on Summer House? 15:20 - Kyle Cooke heads to Ozarks 21:10 - Fake Bieber fools Vegas Nightclub  24:00 - Venus Williams gets a Barbie 27:00 - Adult Summer camps on rise 28:00 - WNBA AND NBA 2K TEAMUP30:00 - Last shot: Caitlin, Ionescu, Paige?31:00 - Sabrina Ionescu game breakdown 35:00 - Sophie asks about reality TV  37:00 - Sophie on MCL injury rehab 39:30 - West not trying to find love 44:00 - Float trips and foot longs50:00 - Fever send bleated birthday videos#VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and genuine, just honest conversations about what it means to be alive. I'm Javier Tchariot-O-R-Nandes and listen to Learning to Be Human on IHard Radio, Apple Podcasts, or whatever you get your podcast. Another thing, I don't know why this reminded me of just like games, you asking about Brea, but I'm officially three-for-three on being fined by the WMBA. Holy shit. For this? For the pod?

Again? They didn't like my comments on page beggars. No way. I didn't even say anything bad. Week four, I won't even like hop around and fake small talk. I think everyone probably wants to know how you're feeling and what's going on. I'll say before you even talk. I know you're a tough girl.

That looked painful. Yeah. Yeah. So you can, if you want to run me through the play. I will. So the news is about to drop, so we're okay to talk about this. But I did tear my MCL. And if you're going to hurt your knee, that is like the best possible case.

And so, you know, this year just as a whole, like I think the league as a whole, but really us, we've just gone through so much adversity. And then injury-wise has just been, like, you can't make this shit up, to be honest. And so during Connecticut's game on Sunday, I was just in the faint trying to be. help side and someone ran into my knee and it just snapped like when and knee injuries are weird to me like I don't really like thinking about them but I felt a pop right away and so I'm really in good spirits because I knew that I hurt myself pretty good but I will say I'm just like thankful I know this is not probably the time to say this but I'm just thankful to like be where I'm at

and be with the organization and the girls that I'm with because they have brought like life and like my love of basketball back and so I really am in and really really like good spirits. I know. Like I'm just, I'm thankful to be where I'm at and thankful for the year that I got.

I am going to be done for the rest of the season. So that kind of sucks. So our next podcast, our next podcast will be pretty good because I'll just be getting done with surgery. So this should be a good,

a good tune in. It's all good. I thought that maybe there was like a chance that you could come back later, but. No. I'm so sorry. No.

No, it's all good. It's part of it, right? So it is, but it is what it is. Yeah. I know. I know. So that's that,

but you want to know it's actually crazy, though. Oh, that bummed me out. Yeah. Sydney had her birthday. The next day we played, she completely tore her ACL and everything.

It was my birthday. We played the next day and then I hurt my knee. And we still have a couple more birthdays on our team. And everyone's like, do they play or do they not play? Wait, yeah. I guess also. That's a real question.

Happy belated. I guess you probably moved on from your birthday quick, but damn. Yeah. It's all good, though. But I'm dating with you. How is your... Dude, 29.

I'm getting... I'm getting old. Sick. I suppose I'm getting fucking old. Well, no, I was writing back from the... From Out East and was checking my phone and just saw... I don't even think I saw... I don't think I got an alert.

I think the play came up on, like, my Twitter feed. Oh, yeah. And I was like, oh, fuck, is that Sophie? And sure enough. I think I might have... I had to message your sister and I was like, do we know what happened? Oh, shit. It's a bummer.

Speaking of Lindsay and your mom, she's literally in labor right now. So like during this podcast, she could have. Can we FaceTime in? Can you call your mom real quick? Dude, there's so much going on. Should we call? No. Is that crazy?

Call. Call. Let's do it. You try, or you try your mom all. I'll try Lindsay. Lindsay's not going to answer you. Oh gosh. This is good.

Wait, here we go. Calling her. Dude, what are she's like giving birth? She's too professional. But I feel like Lindsay loves me enough that even if she's pushing, she'd like, answer! Oh, voicemail. I'll leave her voicemail. I'm just going to say she's on the pod and we're hoping for a, mom, it's West and Sophie.

We're just calling you from the pod to say, you know, Godspeed with Lindsay's vagina. Good luck with Lindsay's. Sophie said vagina. I would never say that. And we hope everything goes well. Oh, Lizzie's calling. And just have fun. Take a picture and send it to us. Good luck. Bye. Send a picture. Lindsay, turn her camera on. Maybe she didn't need to call.

My mom probably told her no phones. Yeah. Push. Wait, okay, that's so fun. Okay, big week. Yeah. Lindsay. Lins.

Yeah? Have you given birth yet? No. Well, you're on the podcast. West just tried calling your dog, his mom. She didn't answer. She just luck for us. Oh.

Well, Lynn, tell him, once I said, good luck and give my mom a hug and take a picture and we're excited of her. West said, good luck. Give his mom a hug and send his picture. Okay, well, thank you. Okay, love you bye. Go get him, Lynn. Love you.

Bye. She sounded drained. Yeah, she's busy. Okay, so crazy week for you. I feel like every week we hop on here, there's like some crazy shit that went down. You don't have to comment on this. I, and I'll go first.

Okay. I know that we're like in this heated midst of a discussion throughout the season that like WNBA refs like need to be better. The things have gotten shippy. People kind of bully the fever. I did watch the play. Twitter says a lot of people saying it was dirty. She was like smiling after, whatever.

You can say what you want about this. It didn't look dirty to me, just like a bang, bang play under the, under the rim. Yeah. And I've been waiting. No, I don't because I know Brea and I'm actually really good friends with Brea. And I have been waiting to get on the pod and so we could talk about this because I didn't want to tweet it out. But I don't think that there was no ill intent. I think it was a basketball play.

I was just in the wrong spot at the wrong time. She fell like there's no way that she would go in there. and intentionally try to hurt me. And so I have nothing but love for Brea. And I even told my mom because she tweeted something. I was like, no, mom, like, I get it. But like, I promised you that like, I was like, Brea and I are super cool.

And like she would never try to hurt me. Because there are some girls that I think might, but she, she wouldn't do that. And so I have nothing but love. And so I hope people stop giving Brea some heat because I don't think she meant to do that at all. Yeah, she was also like, she was like passing the ball while it happened.

Like it just was very sports. Like it was bang bang. Yeah. And I think that smile, it wasn't like a, it was like a, ooh, you know, like one of those. So I'm totally fine. It's whatever. Yeah. You guys have been so fucking banged up this year, though.

It's absolutely crazy. Are we, do you, are you going to have to have surgery? Or is it just PT? No. Yeah, I'll have surgery Friday. Okay. But again, out of all things, it could have been way worse. So, like, I'm taking this as a dub.

Have you ever had surgery? Yeah. You know I broke my leg my junior year? in spring ball. Yeah. Oh. It was my roommate. It was like seven on seven shells.

Like it was not, it's a practice where you're supposed to like stay off the ground, you know? Yeah. And I broke on the ball. It got tipped. So it was like kind of spluttering in front of me. I didn't make a play on it. He slid to catch it underneath me.

Right when I playing in my left leg, he slid like baseball slid like with his knees tucked. And it. It went spiral fracture into my fib, and then it went down. And I guess doctors say if you have a spiral fracture that it's so fast, or that there's so much force that all the muscles detached from your bone. So I had a spiral in my fib, and then every muscle my ankle just like let go of my whole. What?

Dude, it was so gross. But I was going to tell you, first came back my junior year, hadn't in a interception. And it was like the most like full circle moment of my sports career because like rehab fucking sucks. It's so exhausting. You just especially when you're an athlete and like all you, you depend on your body so much and you can do so many cool things with your body. Starting over not being able to like go get yourself a glass of water or like drive your car. Like this shit, it's fun being heard for like two days. People forget. Stop saying feel better. after two or three days and then you're stuck by yourself.

Yeah. And to do rehab for that long and then to get back in a game and like get a pick, I remember like just absolutely like that's a joy. Yeah, I just screamed as lot as I could. And like that was a special moment. And my dad was there, which was really cool. But my dad on my uncle. So that was my surgery junior year.

Hey, another thing, I don't know why this reminded me of just like games, you asking about Brea, but I'm officially three for three on being fined by the WMBA. Holy shit. For this? For the pod? Again? They didn't like my comments

on page beggars. No way. I didn't even say anything bad. On the whistle, on the quick whistle? Yeah. But like, why? Like,

if we were to talk about page, Here's a good question. Well, that Rookie of the Year debate, I've seen a lot of my feeds. I know, dude. Well, you heard me say, I was like, yeah, she'll probably be Rookie of the Year, but Sonia is, like, making a very strong case. Like, she is solid, solid, solid. And Caitlin wasn't unanimous. Is that correct? No, yeah. I mean, she's going to get it regardless.

Yeah, but unanimous is, like, a very cool thing. On a positive note. Yeah. I know a knee aside. You guys, I don't know where you're watching, but fever with the largest comeback in franchise history. I guess I don't know how much you want to contribute to being a part of that. Maybe everyone rallied around you, but that's sick. Dude, I think that is so funny because everyone's like, what a positive thing.

And I was like, well, yeah, but we should have never been there in the first place. No, but that's a huge thing. Yeah. Hell yeah. No, Kelsey, I don't know if you know Kelsey Mitchell, but if you, you know, Kelsey Mitchell. but if you don't, you need to. And the whole freaking basketball world should know who she is by now.

But she had 34 points in the second half. And I'm not kidding, since she's been in the league, she has been a high level, like elite score. And she just doesn't really get the recognition that she deserves. And I think she's finally starting to put people on notice. But like playing against her, she's one of the toughest people to freaking play against.

Being on your team, you know she's a bucket. And so I think she proved herself on Sunday for sure. I mean, it also sounds like when someone, When one goes down, you guys absolutely find the right people to step up. Yeah. Well, we keep signing people, but we're running out of people to sign because our whole roster is injured. I know. That's always fun, too.

Have you been, what's the longest injury you've had in your, let's say, like, college plus career? Well, all last year I was playing with a dead collarbone. Like, part of my collarbone was dead. So that sucked. I couldn't, like, brush my teeth or do anything. but I would get a little help, you know, during the games. Yeah. Some medicine.

But I mean, like, have you, have you been a non-playing part of a team in a long time? Like, where now your role is going to be entirely different. Oh, oh, oh. No, this is the first time. This is the first time in, like, probably four years. Yeah. Which will be fine, though, because I want to, I love our team, so it's going to be easy to still go and, like, be a part of it. But it just, I just feel bad.

Like, it's one thing after another. You know what I mean? Like, that shit sucks. Dude. Yeah. It really does suck. Is Caitlin close? Harshauser, has she coming along?

Dude, I don't know. I, everyone keeps asking. Everyone's like, you know. And I'm like, literally she doesn't even know. Like, our, it's just like a day by day, legit type of thing. And so, yeah, she's close. But, like, you also have to remember, like, she can be playing if it wasn't in the WMBA by now.

But, like, at this level with how deep and, like, how good people are nowadays in our league, which is the best it's ever been. Like, you can't just be good. You have to be on top of your game. And so just trying to get her back in game shape, I think is what they're trying to do. But, like, again, it's literally a day by day. I'm not holding out any information.

I just literally don't know. Did you see Skip Bayless said that the WNBA is lying about her injury? Dude, that's literally bullshit. Like, no one's lying. No one, that's not. He said maybe Heel and Clark has taken a couple of injury breaks just because she needed a mental break from all the jealousy and resentful.

and bullying and sheep shots. Okay, here's the thing. When you're an elite level player, you not being able to play is the hardest part, mentally, physically, emotionally. You know what I mean? Like, it's not playing. It's when you're playing is like when you're,

it's a part of it. Like you're built for that. So when people have, say stuff like that, I'm just like, just shut up. Yeah. But dude, tell me about, I know you're not allowed to talk details, but I've been getting so many questions

about Summerhouse and like how tapings going, like how, like, what do the weekends look like? Who's your favorite? I don't know. Like, in the house. Who's your least favorite? Like, I'm not kidding. I can't even tell you any of it. I know, but like, you could say from last season at least, because people on the street here, they're like, dude, we love West. We want to know more about West.

I was like, all right, well, like, and people want to know, like, wait, time, time. People actually want to know, like, are you really trying to find love? Are you just trying to have fun? The show's not even about finding love. Like, it's like just about. I know, but people are very interested in your, you know. your relational status. Well, there's so much TV and reality TV that's based off of, like, there is a dating premise,

you know? Yeah. Yeah. Love is blind. Love, like everyone, every show is about, like, dating. I will say, Summer House doesn't actually, like, it is not about dating. There's no rule saying. You don't have to date anybody.

Like, it is, there's not a single stipulation to Summer House. You just show up. Obviously, when people live in a house and go out and, like, see each other every weekend, have a drink. Like, it does happen. But it is nice to, like, not have to do it. Like, you know how in The Bachelor? It's like every, it's like the six episode. The first, there's always the first person to be like, I love him.

And it's like so just like you feel like you have to take all these steps. Also, the psychological warfare in filming The Bachelor I've heard is absolutely just like so crazy. but I will say another thing with this show is like this is what I would be doing in the summer anyways, you know? Yeah. No, for sure. Doing a sharehouse, hitting the beach. Maybe I'd be in the Ozarks instead of the Hamptons, but it's fun.

You know, I took Kyle to the Ozarks this summer? Dude, I saw that on your story or whatever. I think you texted me asking if I was going to be down there or something. I was like, no, I'm in season. Yeah. Did you love it? Yeah, you've been down there random times. Yeah, I know.

Yeah, it's, it's, it's, It's the best place ever. He had a blast. It is a hidden gym. Like, people shit on that. And I'm like, you don't understand. It's just like so, it's just so Missouri, you know. But that's where everyone, like, that's where you go.

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or it'll be the Hampton. or it'll be a lake in upstate New York. Like, I'm trying to think Indiana. Wait, what did Kyle think of it, though? Had a blast. He's like, the guy has a motor that I've never seen on any human ever. Like, where did you take him, though? Listen to this schedule.

We went out in Columbia on a Friday. It was, what's the, not Labor Day, but the one before, Memorial Day? Memorial Day, so that's Sunday. Okay, so we go to, we get to Columbia. be a Saturday. I go out, I take him to we do like a heart bows

and then we did Shakespeare's for a few beverages and then Yum. God, I can't remember where we went to bootches. Did you take him to bootches? Yeah, we went to boots

before we even dropped our luggage off. Started at bootches. Then dropped off luggage. Oh, and I took him to, I took him to... Lost Marks? Not Los Margs. Trops. I had him get trops to.

Oh. He was like, this is so crazy. And then we went home and then we popped back out. And then we ended the night at El Rancho. And like, I don't know if you've clocked, if you've watched enough summer house to know there's like, everyone has like patterns. But one of Kyle's is like eating drunk food alone. Like he'll just come in the kitchen. No, that's what I was about to say.

Everyone is like away and he's literally in the in the kitchen by himself. Eyes closed. Eating. So I was like, what better place to take this man than El Rancho in Columbia. Missouri. And we go in, dude, his face, I have a video of it.

He opens the box and his eyes get big and he can't think of words to say and then he just shoveled steak nachos in his mouth for an hour. And I was like, that's perfect.

Then we wake up early, drive to the Ozarks, check in the hotel. He does his DJ set from probably like, probably like two to six. And then we get on

Shady Gators. Oh, nice. Then we get on a boat and just rip it. We walk on the boat and there's just a DJ deck. It was like this was all made for him. Oh, my God. And then we just whip it around the Ozark. Okay, then it gets crazier.

Then we're out to like 6 a.m. Wake up in the hotel. Put him in the car. And I'm like, dude, this is like the only shy you'll get to like see the farm. Like, do you want to go? and he was like, he was like, let's do it. We stopped for 20 minutes. And then we get to the farm and he fed cows, fed chickens,

and rode with my dad for like four hours. And I was just like, dude, this guy's, this guy's got a motor. Was Amanda nervous for you to like be with him all weekend and just you too? No, I think I would like to think Amanda trust me. But of course, my dad was like, Kyle, where's Amanda? And I was like, one day. It was. How would she be handled it? Would she be about it?

Amanda is pretty quick to like, so anytime we do any type of physical activity, she's hurt every single time, whether it's like dodge ball, kickball, football. I'm not kidding you. She does have big boobs. Maybe it's her back. Maybe. I just mean she like just gets head shots. Hey, no matter what this is.

I hurt my knee. Yeah. Yeah. You get my joke. I can't see you today. That's probably why I didn't get it. Oh, oh, well, I sat up. Yeah, yeah, my bad.

Yeah, my bad. Anyway. But she, if we play a sport, it's like football to the head, kickball to like the gut. Like every time it happens, it's, and no offense, Amanda, but it's so fucking funny. Some people aren't sports girls. She's a creative,

swimsuit girl, you know? Dude, that's where I need to get my swimsuit from. Is Amanda? I've been looking for a swimsuit brand. the whole bit is like big boobs though I think okay well I'm just gonna I'll just

I would never make that joke but you've made it to me first no a thousand percent thousand percent well good for her okay well hey that would be a get fined yeah yeah we could do that a little finer get fined I can't believe we're playing this game and it's you keep getting fined

we've like made it in through a bit Dude, that's so crazy. I just can't wait until off-season so that I can rip them and then they can't find me. You can't be fined in the winter? I'm like in a paycheck in the winter. But aren't you still, aren't you still an employee technically of the league?

It's funny because we're in a new CBA, so we all, no one's going to be under contract. So I'll either get kicked out of the league or... No, just get targeted next year. They know better than that. You never know. Never know.

Damn. All right. Should we do fine or get fined? You got fined, so we'll start it off with find. And I'll finally speak up and say, WMBA, dude, take a second, take a break. You can't find me. My real Soviet is trying to like spread some ball knowledge,

elite ball knower. The whole nation is thinking it. But thanks, Kathy, for the view of the podcast. Man, I can't believe that. Shout out to you. Non-basketball related. Fake Justin Bieber look like at a Vegas nightclub. Did you see it?

Yes or no. Dude, I think that's fucking hilarious. I think that is, oh my God. And how are they, how do they not know that's not him? That's what I was going to say. I was going to say you find the audience for being idiots more than find that they look like and the venue were like, yeah, just give you a shot. Dude, but it says that the nightclub got tricked too.

Or you think that they were in on it. Are they the biggest idiots ever? Oh, it's a complex story. Nice. There you go. I'm playing in a flag football game tomorrow for Complex. I hopefully wish me good luck on my health. I will pray for your knees.

This guy does look like Beams. like a little thicker. I was just about saying, I think he's a little thicker, though. And I think if you're just a beer fan, you notice that. But I think good for him. I say,

no, fine. Good for him, man. Are you a J.B. guy? I am. I like him. Oh, me too. This new album rocks. My world.

Dude, if he comes out with the concert, we need to go. I would go in Indianapolis. Can you get us front row in indie? Yeah. Sure. I feel like you could. Is he comes to Indy?

Probably not. One of my goals, hopefully next year, do you think that, like, could I sit courtside at a fever game? Mic'd up, thousand percent. Thousand percent. Bleacher report does those, and they're actually super sick.

They'll mic up, like, Eagles players at, like, a Phillies game or, like, oh. And they, it's like, it's a very good piece of content. Dude, we should do that for a cheese game. God, I would I wouldn't two seconds I'd love that

You and Taylor All right Yeah, yeah Wait can you go to the restaurant opening now No I still have to do rehab Yeah, you're right And like surgery and stuff

So like I'm gonna be here for a second Did you see that the Barbie Venus Williams She has a her own Barbie now Yeah That's sick It's for equal pay Inspiring

I think we'll both I think we'll both say fine on that. Yeah, I think that's good. I think that's good. I like that Barbie's doing sport. I feel like they've been kind of like, like it's like you're a Barbie girl or like a tomboy kind of vibe. Yeah.

When you're growing up. I bet that's cool to see both. I admire both. Yeah. Part of me kind of feels like that Venus William should have had a Barbie before. A long long ago? Yeah. But I'm glad that she has it now.

Good for her. That's fire. Yeah, both say fine there. What else do we have? Kind of a quiet week. You just had, did you do anything for your birthday? Yeah, I flew to Connecticut. Sick, find.

And got fined. Yeah. I would, I just never, I kind of dread my birthday nowadays because I'm always traveling somewhere to where I don't want to be traveling to, you know? Like, it's... Like Detroit, or Fleet Flint? Oh, no, that will probably be on next year's trip in the year after.

Hopefully they'll celebrate me. Yeah, I'll go as a fake fan, say, We still love you. Thanks, thanks. Another fine or get fine, which I think is freaking hilarious. Our adults are going to sleep away camps to make friends. Sick, so tight. What's tight?

like playing games and being outside. Dude, why older people are going to camps to make friends? That just sounds like a freaking... What do you think that sounds like? Did you go to any, like, freaky, like, religious camps as a kid? No.

Like, okay, well, I did. Do you know what the blob is? No. There is like, camps have so much money. In the lake. It was like, it's like Southern Missouri. Oh, no, I didn't go.

Like K-Life, I heard of K-Life camp. That was like the big one that like I went to and it's like a horrible place. But they have a lot of money. And they have a lot of money. And anytime you have jet skis, a blob, tug of war, flag football, like it's fun. And that's still fun. Or kickball. As the world's biggest kickball advocate, I would go to a camp and put.

that for a weekend. No, okay, okay. I think here's my thing is when I first read that, I thought of like swingers. Like my mind went to like, this is a camp for like adults to make friends. What? But like if you're,

if you're thinking about like actually you're going to a camp like to go do those things, absolutely. Like I think no one really loses the kid in them. But when I read this, I was thinking like some weird shit going down. I admire where your head's at. Because I didn't think about that at first,

but now I'm kind of like you would get kickball and maybe sneak into the other camp's teepee or whatever, whatever they're sleeping in a new set of balls. Mm-hmm. How do you think about the sexual aspect? Well, living out in Phoenix and Scottsdale.

Singer capital of the USA? Pretty sure. I need to rewire my brain to that Midwestern, good traditional family type feel. That is the most Arizona sounding shit ever. Dude, you're telling me. Let's go play golf and see what happens.

Yeah. Do you know what the sign for being a swinger is? An upside down pineapple. Yeah, you are locked in. And do you want to know that my mom and dad did not know that and they got pineapples for their outdoor patios? And I'm like, do you guys have something to tell us? Oh, they got it for them.

Yeah, they moved. They moved in and like it's kind of like a fun little backyard now. And they put pine apples as like their lights. And I was like, what's going on now? Hey now. Yeah. Did you tell all your mom? Yeah.

And she goes, oh, God. And I was like, yeah, switch those out asap. So what do we say? I'm going to go with fine because I think it sounds fun. And if you do swing and you have consent, also fine. There you go. I'm not finding you. Yeah.

Okay. You know, I like where your head's at. I'll go, I was, honestly, I was going to say get fined, but I like where your heads out. I'll say it's fine. Good. Last thing. Did you see that?

I don't know how much you've been on, like, on the internet the last few days, but 2K is allowing WNBA players and NBA players. Dude, I saw that. Yeah, so it's like, it's like. Well, have you seen the tweet of like Caitlin dunking over LeBron? That's what I was going to say. It's awesome. It is awesome, but like, you just know we're going to get shit on.

Like, you know, you know we're about to just get shit on. Like, it's cool. It's a cool concept. And, like, I like it, but I just know that it's going to set us back another 20 years. But I get the equal part, but, you know. Yeah, but I will say, even not, like, I get what 2K is doing. It's fun.

Yeah. No, and I'm actually cool with Ronnie, Ronnie 2K, and I think he, like, where he is taking this brand is going to be fucking amazing. And he's all about us women and, like, supporting us. And so I like where his mind's at. But, like, I just don't want to get dunked on. But I just know that's going to happen. Take a charge.

Take a charge and then you don't have to get posterized. With a broken knee. Yeah, sounds great. If hypothetically speaking, No. You, let's say 10 seconds on the clock, you have to give the ball to C.C., Sabrina, or page B. Who are you using and why? I think it's easy because she's my teammate, but I know I'm going to get eaten alive regardless of the answer I choose.

There's no right answer here, so I want everyone to know that, but I'm going to C.C. Because no one shoots like she shoots. I mean, that's obvious. Who are you going with? If we're down one and I got to get like a mid-range, don't you go page? Yeah, mid-rarynger, you go backers. Yeah. But you don't get to pick.

You're down one, you have 10 seconds. You know, it's just whatever shot is given to you. I'll go page then just to keep things different. And Montana State plays Oregon next week, so that's why I'm skipping Sabrina. How's that sound? I like that. I will say if, you know, I don't have to talk about Sabrina's game too much,

but I feel like she gives me, like, field general, like, height, man, like, so laser-focused, like, if you slack for a single play on the floor, she'd come for your throat. Is that a fair take? I think she's very dialed in. I've never, honestly, I've never really been in a workout or never been her teammates. I've only played against her, so I don't really know. But when you're playing against her, that's the type of, like, feel I get from her.

She seems just like on fire always. Yeah, but she's not like super nice girl, super nice. Her husband's really nice too. Good people. Is he an Oregon guy? I don't know. I think he played football and he still liked me in the NFL, but I feel like they were together Oregon, right?

I don't know. I really wanted to go to this Montana State Oregon game, but I'm going to be in the Hamptons. I'm really sad. For filming or just for shits and gigs? Yeah, doing a little show. Oh. He is a football guy.

Nice. Is he still the NFL? 2015 draft. I doubt it. No. He bounced around a little bit. Bears, Ravens, Dolphins, Titans,

Ravens, 49ers, Raiders. Wait, West, I know. This is a squirrel brain comment. But, you know, like on the show when you guys go to, like, people's, like, pop up, like, you went for a DJ thing. We went for Amanda, like, swim. Like is that

Does the shows make you do that? Or do they do that regardless? Like you guys were going to go regardless Or do you guys make it Because you had to have permission To film anything anywhere So like you can't just like freestyle pull up To like a random event or like club.

So like everything has to be like So you know they're going to be filming. Yeah. Well also the venue has to know you're going to be filming too. So like you couldn't just show up with like camera people and be like, yeah, we're filming your restaurant. Because also you need to think about like they can't have, they can even have background music that's like licensed songs.

Yeah. So like the restaurant has to agree to like let the lighting in, like clear space around like the table we're at to play. Yeah. The like cleared music. Like there's so many things that I probably don't even know they go into it. Yeah. So like everything is like super thought out.

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Apple Podcast or whenever you get your podcast. You go? Don't want to be on camera, honestly. But, but I was saying, like, when you sign that contract, like, for us, we have, like, player appearances. You have to make so many player appearances and do certain things out the public. Is that, like, how it is as a show is like, hey, like, yeah, it's during the summer, but you're also going to have to go to XYZ and it's, you know what I mean?

Like, yeah, I don't know, honestly, how that works. I think some of it might just be in, like, good practice. You know what I mean? Like, because we've definitely, we had the liberty to turn things down. Yeah. But I think we also all want, like, that show to, like, do well. So, like, it's kind of like. For sure.

It's just like a full circle. You want to do it. You want the show to do well. It does well for you. Like, it's good for everybody. Well, and they're your friends, too. Like, you do, you still want to support and, like, hang. So it all.

I just didn't know if it was like a record. choir thing of like, hey, we're going to make up this event for you guys to go to and whatever. You know what I mean? Yeah. But I mean, usually, like, they want it to be our life. Like, things are better when they have our arms wrapped around them, you know? Yeah. So, like, like, we played a kickball game last year that I fully was like, let me find contacts for the league that I play kickball in.

We'll do it here. I'll get the shirts. Yeah. Because that shit is fun for me. Yeah. And we won nine one. That's when you wait that diving catch. I will never forget that.

When your season's over and my fall kickball season starts, we'll be hopping on here and you're going to have to like start the combo with like, well, it was the score, how'd you play? I can't wait. This is going to be so exciting for me. You know, I tore my rotator cuff this spring. Playing kickball? Yeah, throwing someone out from like the outfield.

No way you're talking about Amanda, always getting injured and here you are. Yeah, but mine's because I... I try a little too hard, though. But we won the championship. You know what? Fuck it. One sec. Ready for this?

Oh, God. This is the only decor I have in my apartment area now. Is that to put beer? Yeah. So they give it to you after you win and then you take it to the bars and like we just dump like champagne beer in it all night. Dude, fun fact. Not a big champagne girl. A beer.

I get it. It's fun to pop, I guess. Yeah. You're right. But that's it. Honestly, if you're healthy, God, you probably can't play kickball now. I know you can't see me.

But this is what I'm looking like right now. What's your hardware? It's a nice, it's a nice ACL kind of look and brace, even though it's my MCL. Are you weight-bearing? Yeah, I get right now, but I will be regardless. Like, I can walk.

I actually know what? I tried to kind of, right when it happened, I went into the locker when, like, the docs were checking it out. And then, like, the team came in for half time. They went out. And then I went back to shower just to like, so I could be clean and then do rehab or treatment. And I was like, you know what? Maybe I'm not that hurt.

And I try kind of running a little bit. And I almost ate shit in the shower by myself because my knee was just like, bleak. So. It is so funny with knees how, like, so many people tear ACLs, MCLs, PCL. I did PCL at Rockbridge, but you can, like, you can weight bare, walk off the field, and then your rehab time is like,

and ACL's a full year where, like, I broke the shit out of my leg, couldn't walk for four months, but I was back full, like, after six. Because they just put metal in you and your gut. Like, knees are just so, so fragile. Well, honestly, I was kind of thinking about, like, how am I, I was saying about, like,

the beach and y'all. knots and boats and me having a great off season. Now this thing, but actually it's only going to take four months. So, like, this is a quick, quick little recovery. And then I'll be on a boat ASAP. Do they just scope it out? Or are you getting like... No, they have to impair it.

Oh, fuck. Yeah. But it's very, like, very, it's very simple and not very invasive. Like, it's, it's good. You just have to get it fixed. So then not to, like, rehash, a horrible day for, you, but were you, was your leg locked when she fell in? Yeah.

So what happened was like, yeah, so they, they said that they see these in like football NFL a lot because your feet are kind of locked to the ground and people come in from the side. And so normally like my, if like my foot would have been up a little bit, maybe my leg would have like gave in a little bit, but my foot was locked on the ground. And when she fell, like it was just, it was like a textbook MCL tear pretty much. And so, but they're like, if you would have gone a couple more inches to the left. you would have torn a whole bunch more shit.

So, like, I'm very thankful for where I'm at. So it's all good. I love your outlook today. You're very positive. You know what? I choose to be. Yeah. Damn.

What's your team doctor's name? Should we give them a shout out? Do we love them? You know, Dr. Kendall? Let's give him a quick little shout out and love that he is well rested. But, dude, he's been doing so, he's done already two surgeries of our team. Yeah, that kind of. I'm on third.

Oh, Dr. Kendall. Busy guy this year. Yeah. I'm trying to think. Oh, Lindsay's at nine centimeters. Fip is coming soon. Who's texting you? Lindsay.

Oh, wow. You still on her phone? I know. She is not messing around. Do they? Can you play music in the, in the operating room? Yeah. Wait, West.

You never told me, though. Are you? Everyone, I've gotten like no joke probably around 45 to 48 DMs asking if you're actually trying to find love. I mean, like, or if you're just like in a fun state. I don't wake up. I don't like wake up craving that. Do you know what I mean? Like, yeah, you're in a fun part of your life.

Like, you don't need to be. How often do people say like, oh, you'll know. Like when it happens, like you'll know. Like I've heard that so many times And I guess I am like Just day at a time I don't know

I just think I don't I don't go outside looking for that You know Do I sound crazy? I love you No I just love you You're just funny your shit to me Because you're like

Everyone does say that Well everyone's no but everyone says that And everyone's like And the way that you're just like Like that I feel like Same boat But I do picture, like, on a serious note, if I think about my life from like a macro lens, yeah, like being a dad, like kids coaching football, like that shit sounds awesome.

I just, it's not for me tomorrow, you know? No, I feel that. Dude, I feel that. I couldn't even imagine. Unlike Indianapolis, also everyone in New York City is like single running around, you know? You know what? What a fun, fun place to be. Yeah.

Literally. Maybe I need to come up there during off season for a little bit. Pull up. Yeah. It'd be fun. Um, but like I've been to, and like probably same for you. Well, Phoenix, I don't know, but like I've been to so many weddings over the last five years.

Hundreds. One of them was like a New York City couple. Like they're all Missouri and Montana. We went to high school with one of them. Right? Well, yeah. Yeah. Are you talking about the one the other weekend?

Yeah. No, no, no. The New York one. Oh, Hannah. Yeah. That wedding was actually, that might have been the perfect wedding. Really?

I'm not surprised. I feel like they're like the perfect people. It was reception in like this beautiful church in like the Upper East Side. And then they did, or excuse me, ceremony at the beautiful church. And then they did reception in Central Park. So like outside by the water, like trees, very green. But everyone still keeps their suits on, nice music. And then they did after party at a basement in like a midtown like dive bar.

Where everyone was like sweaty, had their bow ties off. Like everyone's wearing sunglasses like in the pictures and stuff. It was shout out to Hannah playing again for that. Another rocker-tized room. Just crushing. I will say, though, Sam's, the, what was it called? It was like swimming, like, you guys were all swimming and drinking after all spritzes or something? Yeah.

That was the day after. They called it something. Oh, day after. Dude, that Sunday in sprits or something, I can't remember what it was called, but that looks so fun. Yeah, like a swim and sprits or something. It was beautiful. Yeah, swimming spritz. I'm down for a spring and spritz.

And, okay. You really are. what's your dream basketball aside if you could live in one city in the United States where would you want to be? Dude, that's so hard because I'm so much of like a... I feel you're going to say Miami. No, see, that's my thing is

I think Miami is not really my speed. I think I would do definitely probably somewhere in Florida, but like just like the beach. But I'm more, what I was going to say is, I'm more of like a people person. Like I want like my family and my friends and like good people around.

You know what I mean? But I was going to be on a beach with a margarita. Okay. Okay. What would you choose, though? But you like hot weather. Yes, definitely hot weather. That's where, like, California, like, their beaches are too cold for me.

Like, it's, I can't do it. I have to be. Yeah. East Coast. I think for right now, my life, New York City is, like, kind of perfect. But, like... You're thriving. I do miss...

I miss Montana a lot, though. That place is... Yeah. In the summer, oh. Dude, it looks sick. I just remember you guys jumping off bridges and stuff. Yeah. So we'd have workouts in the morning.

Yeah, no hotter. We'd have workouts in the morning and they were over. Like, we were done at 7.30. So then you go home, breakfast, nap. And then we would just all load up in someone's car and like go to a lake and like, yeah, like a rope swing for five hours and then go home. Dude, do you know what I miss? I so, so miss.

Oh God, why I'm my... Oh, float trips. Dude. The best. I actually tried explaining float trips to my friends in New York and they, like, couldn't grasp what it was. What?

And I was like, dude, you just tie up a bunch of shit that floats and you float down a river for seven hours. And you get hammered, you eat sandwiches, you have chips, and it's like the white trashiest shit you will ever do.

And it's so fun. Yeah, we go to subway on the way before, and we don't. get footlongs and then keep the condiments on the side and then put them in a cooler and then we'd have a pitch stuff for it. Because you can't let it get soggy. Uh-uh. Dude, I would do anything for one of those again.

I know. Oh. Joe and Ryan just went on one and they were telling me about it and I was just like, ugh. Where'd they go? It sucks. Somewhere in Springfield, I think. They're always doing something, but I love it. Did Ryan, Ryan went to Mo State?

Is that correct? Yep. So he, like, is it, he like knows Springfield super well. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Great floats down there. Yeah. Sophie, before we leave, you're already in good spirits.

But I do, like, I know that me saying happy birthday to you should be enough. It is not. But it's not going to be today. So I'm sending you a little something. On my phone? Oh, guys. What are we doing? Oh.

Is that my dog? Pop it open. Oh, God! This is so fun. Yeah. Wait, I got it. Hold on. I'm going to...

From Brutus and me, remember your dog, the one of your dad and I have for three years? Birded a little. He's the best. I can't believe my baby is 29 years old. I'm getting old, mom. Keep smiling, keep shining your light.

Maybe you're in the yard work for something. I think you've got a pretty good job. job. I love you so much. I wish I could squeeze you. Have a great day. Mama Pia about to cry. Every birthday, baby girl. I can't believe you turn of 29. Very proud of you. Wait, guys. Did you know this is happening? Good day. Keep doing what you do it. And have fun. Bye-bye. You say, Sissy.

Oh, happy birthday and Sophie. We love you so much and we're so proud of you. Can you look kiss? What's going on with Sophie? Happy birthday. I'm really proud of everything you're doing. I hope something green doesn't come flight out of the internet kitchen. Happy birthday, selfie. It's the shit surrounding you.

Mama. You guys are kidding. Thank you. Not over. Incoming. What is going on? What? Wait, you guys are so nice.

I needed this. Wait, this is my team. Hey, Sophie. We love you. We wish you more on birthday than that guy. I don't God bless you a little. My girl. Yes.

We owe you a jury. 29 birthday days. You know, you mean don't take a big girl. That's nice. So, they asked for a video to celebrate you this morning. Kelms. He gnomles off.

Keltz doesn't do this. I have enjoyed this entire Shade's a few unbelievable teammates social spoilt that will let it over the other time

of a more and for a friend of this year I saw a friendship person and I can appreciate your personality do I have to course in my locker room on a team

her angle is killing me at the end of the day I'm walking with the kids so more life happy birthday so I'll see

because I already said this person So it feels like, oh, they said it again, but I was paid to do the video. So I'll be enjoying your day. What the fuck? You guys, this is so nice. Thank you. That's a good way to end today.

Yes. What's your birthday? December 30th, the very end. Dude, I think that we should have a banger for your birthday. I wanted to do it for turning 30, and I was just so tired last year I gave up. Maybe 31 is the year. But a lot happened this week, and despite unfortunate news, so if we had a good birthday, and as we speak and sign off,

both of our families are welcoming a baby into this world right now. I love this. I love this. This is good, Wes. I know. We'll try to get a picture. But. Yeah, we will.

They're the important ones today. So. Thanks. Much love to you, Wes. It's our world's colliding yet again. Oh, speedy recovery, dog. I mean, I'll see you. Obviously, good luck in surgery and stuff like that.

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