Show Me Something - Sophie Cunningham's EXPECTATIONS for Indiana Fever's WNBA season with Caitlin Clark
Episode Date: May 7, 2026This week on Show Me Something, Sophie Cunningham and West Wilson somehow turn a conversation about the weather into a full-blown deep dive on WNBA roster cuts, fighting hippos, aliens in the ocean, a...nd why the ’90s may have been the greatest era ever. Sophie gives a real behind-the-scenes look at Indiana Fever training camp just DAYS before the home opener — from brutal defensive practices and looming roster cuts to the emotional reality of being traded in the WNBA. She opens up about leaving the Phoenix Mercury, taking career risks, and why growth sometimes means getting uncomfortable. The duo also gets into: WNBA officiating drama Why refs and players are finally trying to fix the league’s physicality problemThe MLB’s new challenge system and why it actually worksSummer House chaos, bar fights, and sibling wrestling storiesDeep ocean conspiracy theories and terrifying sea creaturesWhy Gen Z secretly wishes they lived in the PASTThe REAL best era to grow up in 00:00 - Start 0:30 - Weather talk 1:30 - WNBA Opening Day jitters5:30 - What it’s like to be traded 8:45 - Azzi Fudd comments on refs 14:15 - AD BREAK JLAB AUDIO15:00 - WNBA & NBA Most vocal officiating critiques 16:50 - MLB's new replay officiating system 22:00 - Indiana Fever Team Goals & Sophie's Goals 23:00 - Fever running suicides at practice 24:00 - Fever team goal #1 Defense in WNBA 25:30 - AD BREAK NASCAR RACE 26:30 - Fever's goal on defense this year30:00 - Indiana Fever team uniform options 2026 31:00 - Summer House fight?! 35:00 - AD BREAK NETFLIX "RUNNING POINT" 36:20 - West's remorse for bullying his little brother 38:30 - Why animals and or drunk people fight 40:30 - Why orcas and humans vibe out 41:00 - Deep Ocean exploration (Megladons? Aliens?)43:00 - Can West hold his breath for 12 secs? 44:00 - Favorite time period to live in? All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet#VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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A team goal that I can share is I know that we want to be the best defensive team.
Let's go.
And I think that is a very doable goal because it's everything you can control.
It's all about communication.
It's about knowing your teammates, what they're good at, what they're bad at.
And like, if I could be, then I know my help side's going to be there.
So it's all about building trust.
And I think at the beginning of the year, like you're trying to do that now because
you have a lot of new teammates.
People play defense differently, but you have to know our scheme.
So it's just having feathers back.
So I think we could be, we're fast, versatile, I think.
And so I think that we're going to have a pretty good defensive team.
I couldn't find my jar of shampoo.
Wes, did you shave or something?
Yeah.
I did shave.
It's kind of cold in my apartment.
I kind of like it.
Really?
It's been like raining non-stop here.
It's horrible.
An indie?
Mm-hmm.
I'd say it's not cloudy today, but there's no sun.
It's like when the sky looks white almost.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're not?
That's what...
April, shower, spring.
No, that's not right.
That's not how that saying goes.
You guys are good to go whenever we're ready.
Episode 39.
You didn't like that intro about weather?
Kev, it was on purpose.
It was so soft.
I wasn't sure.
Yeah, guys, that was a part of this intro, talking about weather.
That's what people do when they catch, when they're catching up.
You start talking about weather and then you talk about other stuff.
Did you really think about it every time you talk to like your mom or dad like back home.
So how's the weather?
No, it's actually fascinating.
I think weather was invented for people to small talk about in like ubers or elevators.
It's actually crazy how default that is for small talk with strangers.
But I also think, but is that in the city too?
Because I definitely think it's like a Midwest thing of like like, like my.
grandparents all the time are like, well, the weather's here, it's raining. I'm like, okay.
I think, I think here's my take on small talk about the weather. Also, guys, episode 39. Welcome
back to show me something. Welcome back. We've missed you guys. Um, weather is something that every single
person experiences every day. It's also ever changing. So it's like a variable that will always be
different and ever you know no matter who you're interacting with that they are experiencing it
as well as you and it's the same you're experiencing it the same way so it's like i can't think of
anything else that's that generically different all the time you know you're you're so right and
like i always find myself that i'm like what a beautiful day out like wow we got lucky to
you know what i mean like i i fall i'm a victim to that because i do it all the time
I get in every Uber and I'm like, it's hot as shit out.
Yeah.
With the random parents talk, like, you know, when you have a kid now and you're
on all these events and you have to like small talk about all the parents.
Oh, yeah.
But weather is definitely a top of the power rankings.
That's an easy go-to.
Yeah.
You don't even have to have like any brain cells to talk about the weather.
Like, it just is there for you.
Yeah.
I wonder if you could go.
I wonder how long.
You could go and talk about the weather.
Oh.
dude we should try we should test it
you want to try this week let's do it
dude okay I'm not
kidding but like you have to
if you talk about the weather get on your notes at
and like Mike win yeah you have to
you have to because I literally talk about it all the time
but mine are based around like tanning
so I'm like oh yes UV
UV do you want to count it as if we bring it up
or even if someone engages with us
and we give it back like I think it's both ways
I think engaged like those
just see how many people talk about the weather.
Okay, deal.
This is going to be good.
That's awesome.
Okay.
Podcast.
Back, Sophie's still in Indianapolis
because I can see artwork on her walls
and a cowboy hat in the back.
Hey, today I,
okay, so it is Wednesday,
and I have been in this apartment
for maybe like two weeks now.
And it's training camp,
so like you're just exhausted.
Like, it's a good long day.
we're going to get into it later in the podcast but
we have we have like a two hour practice yesterday strictly defense
and if you know that that is that's like a living hell
and so I just have been so tired get low and shuffle and that's my problem
like can't shuffle or get low so it was a really dumb practice for me
oh but I I have got to clean like I'm putting all my stuff
away today like it is a gift shit done type of day for me so I'm I've had
my second coffee already like
I'm going to leave you go.
Second coffee?
Yeah.
Holy hell.
Yeah.
I've only had this much coffee.
I've told you about why I like to get coffee in the morning to like get outside and just interact with people and leave my apartment and then bring it back in.
And then I'll like and then I'll babysit it throughout the whole day.
What is that?
Talk to me about, I mean, we're what, three days away from home opi?
Is that Saturday?
Thursday, Friday, Friday, yeah, three days.
Yeah.
How are we feeling?
Are you excited?
Do you get jitters?
You know, I still, I do.
I do.
Like, it's just good.
Like, that just means you're alive, and I think that, like,
yes.
I will always get jitters.
You know what I mean?
Like, I think that's, like, part of why you love it so much.
But I think we're feeling pretty good.
Like, our team is starting to click.
When you left Phoenix for Indiana,
walk, walk everyone through what it feels like to be.
Well, I, I always just feel like.
because being traded can be a great thing,
but I still would always,
I still would always feel,
like my feelings would be hurt by the team
that said goodbye to me.
I know it's the business, but like,
I feel you,
I feel you.
So here's my thing.
I'm just going to be very blunt and honest.
So here we go.
You know,
what's new?
So with,
there are specific players
who like start their career with one team
and end their career with the same exact team,
and that's very,
rare. Yeah. Very rare. It is. And I think I have the potential to do that in Phoenix if I wanted to. Oh. But with that being said, I think sometimes when you're in that type of spot and you get too comfortable and like you don't really, you're just too comfortable. You can't reach your max potential. You can't, you can grow, but just not to where maybe you could grow if you go somewhere. Right. Right. And so actually, if you need to.
did right by me. They, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they,
I wasn't necessarily too close with, like, our coach in the GM because they were new that
year, but I had been there for, you know, six years. And so I was really close with, like,
the management, pretty much everyone who worked there. And so they were like, hey,
here's our situation at hand. Like, this doesn't mean we won't ever want you back here,
but, like, here's your opportunity. Here's what we're trying to do. And so we had a good
conversation. I was like, you know what? Like, heck yeah. I can give you.
back to the Midwest. Like I miss my family. I miss my friends. I miss the vibe of the Midwest.
Great opportunity here in Indiana because of the basketball piece. And so it's more my style
play. Like it was just a fresh start. And so I took it. And I was so excited. And then like the
next day, I'm not getting I stayed in my house and I cried the entire day. Because I was like,
oh my God, what if what am I doing? Like I finally have my people here. I'm finally. I have my people here.
I'm finally like creating a kind of like a name to business here in Arizona.
I'm making good money.
Like all this time and stuff.
But who knew coming here?
Or multiply by 100.
And so I just like, I think when you take big, big risks and stuff like that, it could be scary.
But also like, that is like the time when you when you start to blossom as well.
And so I'm so grateful that I did it.
But it's hard.
And so, but how you were asking like you'd always feel like a certain bite.
Yeah.
Dude, there are some people like.
When I played in Phoenix last year, there are some people that I just did not like.
And there was a couple times, like, after I played well that game.
And I, like, looked at some people.
And I, sorry for me, but I also was like, fuck you.
Because I just had to get it off.
Like, I looked right out of them in the eye.
It's like, fuck you guys.
So, like, it was my decision to get traded too.
So I don't know why.
I wouldn't expect anything less, obviously.
I know.
Nobody does.
Nobody will.
Damn.
But it's fun
But our team
We open up against Dallas
And Dallas is looking really freaking good
That's what I was going to ask you about
Um
AZ did have a quote
Did you see?
Okay, no
She said honestly I'm more confused
I thought you could be physical in the W
And anytime I touch someone that's a foul
I hope I got that verbatim
Yeah
And she didn't get fined either
What?
Yeah
Actually I was wondering
how you'd feel about that.
Yeah, okay.
I have so many opinions on that now that I know that.
One, I think maybe she didn't get fined because it's preseason.
When was your first fine?
How old?
Or was it when this podcast started?
No, I've been fined a lot, I feel like.
But not more than last year.
This podcast has really done some damage.
Yeah.
But it's been a while.
Knock on wood, but the season's about to start.
So we'll get the ball.
I've seen nothing started.
Yeah, we'll get those going again.
Okay.
All I'm.
saying is I think she has a very valid point because, well, you know what? New Year, fresh
start. We've had meetings with the refs. And they, I think that they have owned up for last
year, truly. Like, at all of our meetings, they're like, we've got to be better. Like, we have
nice. Yeah. Like, wait, does that mean I get my money back? Like, if they're starting to agree
with what I saw the entire time, should I be able to get my money back?
Kathy.
I'm just saying. Um, anyway, I, I, I, I,
I think it's pretty valid in what she says that, like, it is so much more physical than any league.
But it's all about, like, how they're going to call the game.
So, like, sometimes you can touch them and sometimes you can't.
So I think it's just like you have to get used to it.
Like, it's just part of the game.
Do you think, or was this an issue?
Like, say 10 minutes into a game, do you know how they're going to call it?
Or is it was the problem last year that you couldn't even figure out how they were.
going to call a game like early on.
I think the problem, yeah, I think the problem with last year, it was just too inconsistent.
And like this is where, like throughout the game, not throughout the season, but like the game was
inconsistent.
I think both.
I think both.
I think like through the game it was inconsistent.
From game to game is inconsistent.
But like overall, and this is what they said.
So you cannot find me all this because this is like quoting what they've said in our meeting is like,
They were like, we, we have to do better.
Like, it was too physical.
It got out of hand.
We did not call things.
And so, like, they were really dial-ins.
So this is what they say every year, though.
It was like, they are going to be very, I feel like,
tick-tac-y cult fouled or tick-tac-y fouls called at the beginning of the season.
And then as the season goes, like, it just like turns out everyone's being shit out of each other towards them in the season.
But like, that's okay because that's how it always is.
Well, so also like in the beginning of season, some, I mean, obviously,
sometimes there's rule changes.
Sometimes a league is like
we're going to be lighter on this, heavier on this.
And so the beginning of the year is also,
we're going to give grace to officials
because they're figuring out how they're calling this season
and what's going to play.
And you also do have to kind of set a standard
for players and coaches.
Like we are calling this shit this year.
So like get used to it.
This is how we're calling it.
And the beginning of the year is probably tough as a player.
agree and for them.
Like they're trying to get back in their rhythm as well.
Like I did. They're human. Like they're trying to be a game the other day. And like everyone just shits on them. Like I truly do feel that for them. Like I didn't.
Yeah. But what I was going to say, fun fact that I don't think a lot of people know is there is, I think it's been around. But I think there was more emphasis on it this year. But there was a committee of coaches. Everyone got together. All the rest got together. And they decided what they wanted the season to look like. And so like,
Our league and the refs are truly working together this year.
And, you know, there's going to be frustrating things.
But even our cook said, like, we're going to start calling.
We have refs at our practice every day.
And, like, we have been calling certain things because we know that the rest are going to be calling this this year.
And so it's like, you do have to kind of adjust to it.
And our coach just said, we want them to call everything.
Like, call everything.
So then we know what's going to be even.
Yeah.
But, you know, it's, you say that.
And then once you're in it, you're like, stop home shit.
So we're never satisfied.
Do you, does the W have a flopping problem like the NBA does right now or not at all?
No.
That's nice.
People are really eating up SGA right now on the internet.
Dude, here's my thing about that.
He is so damn good.
Yeah, like why even waste your time?
Yeah, and I get it.
Like, you can bait people in.
And that's like part of the game of like getting people in battle trouble, like the mental aspect.
I get it.
But like, he is so good that there are some calls that like, well, like,
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I have found, I don't know why this is, but I do think the W and the NBA are without a
doubt the most vocal leagues about disagreeing with officiating.
Like the NFL, you can't really, no one does it that often or you get fined.
Baseball, you get, like, like, people, like, thrown out of games and there's fights,
but it's never, like, public interview.
Like, it just, it feels like the NBA and the W, like, people really share their feelings
about not agreeing with officiating more times than not.
You've been fined 900 times, like, it is a sport where people, like, aren't afraid to speak up,
which I don't know if that's good or bad.
I don't either.
Like, now that you say that, do,
do, is there enough opportunity for NFL players to speak up against the refs?
Well, honestly, I would argue no,
because post-game national interviews are going to be like your quarterback who knows better most times.
One player who had like an important play and then everything else is going to be like locker room interviews,
but that's usually like local radio.
Like it's not like on a massive scale.
I just think football guys
There's so much outside of your control and football
That you can't control that like
officiating is just one of like the eight things that you like aren't in control of
Where basketball there's five of you you have like you can really take over a game
Yeah
Whenever you want to and
Football just there's so many other things
I'm also saying with football like
They're literally
Tackling each other right
So like they can't really
being mad about it being
too aggressive or stuff like that
you know what I mean? We're like
I feel like same with baseball like there's
not a lot of like it's a physical
sport but there's not a lot of like
banging with the other team
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Baseball implemented this year the challenges.
It's kind of awesome.
Okay, so as of this year, baseball is doing a really good job right now.
I think the MLB is like growing the game in the best way possible.
So like you, I like the human element of umpires.
Like you kind of get to know their strike zone
Like sometimes it's bigger
Sometimes it's smaller
Like they're calling whatever
Human error is a part of the game
Human error totally
But when games end
Like in the playoffs
On like a fucking shitty strike call
Or like when it's purely
No one's fault but the umpires
That sucks
So they implemented challenges
And a team gets two challenges
A pitcher a batter or a catcher
Taps their helmet
And then they review it
electronically
it's like a ball or a strike and you either the ump was right or wrong but then they go to like
where it's electronic and you know or not so so you only get two a game i think if you i think if
you get them right then they give you one more that part kev you might have to look that part up for me like
if you keep if you get them right then you then you keep an extra kind of thing but you'll if you
watch now so like an umple call strike on a batter and it's like low and he'll tap his helmet and then
they'll review it and they'll be like oh it's a ball and then he can go to first and i think but it's not
where it's like taking over the game.
It's like only like one or two moments to like make sure the call's right.
And you also leave it in the hands of like the players.
It's not like New York gets to make the call.
I think it's fucking awesome.
And I think it's just a little tweak and it's great.
And I also think it keeps the umpires honest.
Right.
Like I know they already are.
I know they are.
That's their job.
Like they are doing the best they very can.
But like sometimes emotions get involved.
Here.
Here it is.
Oh, here you go.
Each team gets two challenges.
If you win the challenge, you keep it.
Oh, okay, nice.
Oh, so you get two wrong challenges then.
So if you're right, you keep them.
That's crazy.
Wait, so could you be doing that the entire time then?
Yeah, but you could only, like, they're gone if you get the call wrong.
So, like, that's interesting.
I think most teams, what they've been doing is, like, you're not going to use the challenge when it's like the second inning and there's one out and like nobody on.
You wait to like the seventh, eighth, ninth and use them in high leverage situations.
But I think it's like a massive change to the game.
But like in a minor way, I think they did it perfect, to be honest.
I like that.
You know what I also don't enjoy is the review takes it says five to ten seconds.
I feel like ours have dots to be quicker.
NFL struggles with that too.
Football challenges take so fucking long.
NFL NFL is so long,
but I do not understand why,
unless it's super complicated,
but like basic calls that I could make like that,
I don't get why it takes so long,
especially if you're using the people in New York,
you know?
Yeah, that's a great question, actually,
because they do take fucking forever.
I mean, the standard answer would be like,
you want to make sure you get it right,
but watch it in slow-mo,
see what it, see what it is,
and then keep it moving.
Colin Coward always says, and I think this is such a great take.
He's like, everyone can think they're right watching a replay in slow motion.
Referees running around when shit's fast.
It's so hard.
And also, but like once you slow it down, obviously you see things at a different degree.
And things look worse or better when it's when it's not live.
Yeah.
Well, there's also things, though, that you would consider like, yeah, if you watch it.
slow motion. Say we're calling like a shooting foul. Like your arm like touches an elbow
a millisecond before she shoots. Like okay, like you can call that if you want, but also if you
watch it in real time, it doesn't affect her shooting motion, whatever, like you'd let it play.
So slow motion can be bad. Like not realistic if that makes sense. You know? And I will say too,
if you really watch any sport,
I'm going to just stick with basketball and football.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You could call something on every play.
Of course.
Like, you could literally call it like probably five battles every play.
And so that's another thing is like determining,
is it big enough to call?
Do you need to let them play through?
Like, it is, I feel for the wrecks.
Like, truly, I think that they have a very freaking difficult job.
I do.
Look at us hiking up the rest.
I know.
I was going to say we have to write that down.
So the next time you're pissed, I'll be like, remember when you said you feel for them?
Fuck them.
Write a positive and Sophie some money back.
Be like, all right.
Yeah.
Send it back.
Do you have that?
We just got real technical.
We talked about officiating for like 20 minutes.
What are your, give me fever team goals, championship or bust, I would imagine, and Sophie goals.
I like that.
Okay.
So this is so good.
I actually want to talk about this.
Because I'm curious to know what your thoughts are on this.
And this could be in, when you were an athlete, this could be in business.
I mean, you're still athlete.
Yeah, I know.
But I'm saying, like, you could take this anyway.
So, yeah.
I think our, I think everyone's goal is always to win a championship.
Like that, everyone is.
And like, especially when you have the talent, like, everyone wants that.
That is a no-brainer.
But I truly do think that, like, it's all about your day.
daily deposits. And I know that sounds so simple, but like, what are you doing? What is your team doing
every single day in order to like move in a positive direction? You're either getting better or you're
getting worse every day and sometimes getting better. It looks really shitty. Like yesterday's
practice, we really did spend like two hours strictly on defense. And like, and if we messed up
and they did stuff, we were running, we were like in suicide yesterday.
Woohoo! Yeah. Yeah. Like it's, it is.
No joke.
Oh, man.
Everyone, like, was looking around and I'm like, hey.
Besides.
Like, we're all right guys.
Okay.
Okay.
Hey, answer this honestly.
Okay.
Yeah.
Where in the pack are you when you guys condition?
Ooh.
People are usually always the same, like their whole careers.
I feel like from Pop Warner to, like, college, you either are in the front, you hide in the
middle or you, like, are just really bad at fucking conditioning.
No.
I think.
I think that I'm.
I'm like hot, no, like, I'm higher middle.
Okay.
Like, so we have to really fast people.
Give a shout out to whoever wins suicides.
Who's always at the front?
I think this year, Kelsey, Kelsey Mitchell and Reagan Johnson are always pretty good.
Shout out, girls.
Yeah.
So.
I was going to ask, do the rookies go extra hard to, like, prove a point and, like.
You can't.
You can't.
You can't.
You can't.
Because if you.
she only gives you 10 seconds to go to do down and back so like and if you don't make it you're all
on the line again so it's is is your head coach running that ship or is that your condition your
strength and conditioning coach our head coach well again not to do football comparisons but like
as soon as practice if we have to like fucking run after do whatever like he'll just whistle to
the strength coach and then he makes this fucking run you know so so if you have like extra
conditioning or like if you don't reach a certain amount of minutes our conditioning our weight and
condition coach takes over but like during practice if we're like doing drills or like we don't make it
or we don't do whatever it's her call to do that oh so you have more conditioning if you don't play a
certain amount of minutes in the game i mean makes perfect sense i just didn't have to stay ready so you
don't have to be ready yeah i would like to know the threshold i do you know how many minutes it is
to like be like you played enough i don't i don't but i don't
I will say that, like, I think when you're a pro, it sounds harsh, but, like, you actually want to do that.
Of course.
Because, like, you want to stay in shape.
Like, you want to, you want to, I don't know, you want to be ready.
Like, and I think that that's, it's the fun part of, like, you get paid to literally be in shape.
Like, how amazing is that?
So, like, don't take it for granted, but don't get it around.
There are days where it's freaking hard.
And you're like, all right, but what the hell am I doing this?
My life.
Yeah.
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What we're talking about?
Your goals and team goals?
Yes.
A team goal that I can share is I know that we want to be the best defensive team.
Let's go.
And I think that is a very doable goal because it's everything you can control.
It's all about communication.
It's about knowing your teammates, what they're good at, what they're bad at.
And like, they're like, if I could be, then I know my help side's going to be there.
So it's all about building trust.
And I think at the beginning of the year, like you're trying to do that now because you have a lot of teammates.
People play defense differently, but you have to know our scheme.
So it's just having feathers back.
So I think we could be, we're fast, versatile, I think.
And so I think that we're going to have a pretty good defensive team.
That's a good one.
That's awesome.
I love that.
Okay.
So here are my thoughts on personal goals.
And tell me how you feel about this.
Okay.
So I think you have a lot of people.
who are like, have goals riding down,
look at them every single day.
And I think that those are good to have.
Like, you want to have big picture goals,
and I think it is healthy to write them down.
Like, I think it is good to see them.
But I think also, personally, there are so many, like,
I could say I want to be a top three, three-point shooter in our league.
Okay.
Like I could say that.
But I feel like there's so much out of my control.
Uh-huh.
You know what I mean?
You can't control how hot anyone else gets.
You can't control who else is-
You can't control how much you get the ball.
You can't control how many minutes.
Like there's too much outside of your control where it's like, okay, so for my thing is,
I think that I have goals in my head.
But for me, my goal is like, what am I doing literally every single day in order to better
myself to like stay healthy, to be in shape?
to make sure I'm getting my shots into all this stuff.
Because if I'm doing that, every single day,
that's my goal to, like, stay disciplined to that goal.
Then at the end of the season,
I feel like I'm going to end up where I'm supposed to be.
And I can control that.
Good habits.
There's only two things you can control.
I've said it on this podcast before.
Your attitude and your effort.
That's it.
Literally.
I like that, Soph.
I like that.
But, like, think about, like, do you have goals for, like,
you're here?
No.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
No, it's a great question.
And I think that's on things to like go after or like things that like you would like to do.
But at the end of the day, there's so many people and it's so political.
Like there's some of people that are controlling all those streams.
And like, what am I doing to like set myself up to be?
Well, also like, are you countering your goal if like, like,
It's the last, there's five seconds left and Caitlin's open and you pass the ball for like her to shoot.
Like then it's like, oh, you're like, yeah, you're being a good teammate, but that's not helping you reach your three point.
But yeah.
So I think your mindset is.
Yeah.
Lovely.
And I think also it's like purpose over proving.
Like what is your purpose?
Yeah.
And like focus on that over like proving, proving yourself.
So I just think, I don't know.
There's just different mindsets, I think.
I love.
I love that.
job sof let's go fever what uh what what uniforms are we wearing for our home opener any clue no idea
dude no idea you were white at home navy on the road and then the the the stranger things ones
well we also i feel like i don't even know i don't even know what we have this year i think i think we
have do anything new i feel like we i mean we had a red jersey last year but i don't know the only
ones I've seen so far is blue and white.
So I feel like you have a red, I feel like you have a fun jersey.
I don't know.
They don't tell us anything.
If we're going to be on national TV every single game, let's get a fun one.
Right.
Something cool.
I know.
You have black, you have white, you have navy, you said you have red.
I don't know if we have black this year because black was our strange who things last year.
Oh, and that's probably like a limited deal.
Oh, then maybe they'll do another like one-off.
That would be sick.
Who not?
Let me design those.
Dude, you should.
All right.
Enough about me.
Should we get into Summer House?
New episode dropped last night.
Did Kyle beat everyone's ass?
No, I think I don't know.
I would imagine the fight is the last episode.
There was like a kind of a feud at the dinner table.
You know, it was like Lindsay and Kyle going at it.
And then he turned to Amanda.
He left throwing stuff, Cait Anson's stuff at the house and the other people went outside.
And even Carl got into it.
But very crazy.
It is entertaining.
It is entertaining.
There was blood on my pants at the end of that that evening.
Really?
That's all I can say.
Who was blood?
Dude, it might have been mine, honestly.
Who knows?
Oh, Lord.
Yeah, that's kind of, that's what happens when, uh.
Were you guys drinking and stuff or what?
I mean, there's never.
A time where you're not drinking.
time where people aren't drinking in that house.
But I think, yeah, that fight ended up being good for Kyle and Carl, honestly.
Sometimes with guys, I mean, I don't know about girls, but like, dudes, you just got to just let them go, you know.
Yeah.
Duke get out a little.
Yeah.
I mean, have you ever seen, there's so many, like, videos on Twitter and the internet where, like, guys are like full-blown boxing in the street.
someone gets knocked out, they stand up and they like
Dap up and walk off.
What the heck? I will never understand that.
Is that like a, is that like, do you understand that as a man?
Yeah, kind of.
It's just like it's over.
Like now we're like move on, you know?
What?
I don't know.
I just.
That's what that's, I mean, that's what animals do, unfortunately.
I'm not personally.
I'm not a fighter.
But I also, when I was in college,
I remember being the guy who like
when people would fight it'd be like guys stop
and like try to get in the middle and be like
they'll like break it up guy
and then I was like these guys
are like
do whatever the fuck you want like
learn a lesson you're either gonna get your ass beat
or like get in trouble
or feel like go fight
I like that has nothing to do with me go fucking fight
and like
yeah
again
come back when you're done
like if these two people
whoever they are whatever situation they're in
If they go fucking fight each other,
this beef will be over in 60 seconds.
Like, it will be done, you know?
I like,
I've seen it too many times, you know?
It's just like, it's just like high emotions, you know?
End of the summer.
Again, drinks.
I don't know.
But that would be, that would be crazy.
Yeah.
If everyone could fight, like the end of Anchorman.
Yeah.
Dude, I love Anchorman.
That is such a good show.
No touching of the hair or face.
Yeah. That was kind of our mom's rule growing up.
Like me and Lindsay were like in fights, it was like no hitting in the head.
Don't hit anywhere but the head.
What about hair pulling?
That's whenever I see girl fights, the one thing I'm like I always, I always cringe at is like, girls are going to grab fucking so much hair and like, do you want to know what's so funny?
It's like our mom.
Where did you grab home girl underneath the basket?
No, just her neck.
just her neck. I didn't punch her. I just grabbed her
her neck. It's fine. I mean, not do any of that. But I will say
that our mom always said don't hit in the head. Like, don't hit the face and
head because your brain is the most important thing. And don't,
if you're, if you're going to do something, don't be pulling near because that,
well, don't, don't do that. Like, that is just like catty and shitty. Like, if you're
going to do it. So our mom was like, if you're going to be about it,
be bad. Damn. Damn. Damn.
Mama P was brutal
But like she wasn't wrong
Like thinking about that
Like I was like
I also don't want to be fighting
Like I don't
No I just never would
I would never I would never spend time
Standing up
Like I just I just
That's so
It's just such a waste of time
I would always go single leg
Or double leg
Fucking take down scoop
And like have them on the ground
And you're I'm gonna be better on the ground
Anyways than fucking boxing
Like here's a thing
When you actually know how to fight, like, you know what to go for.
You know what I mean?
And like all these other fights are like just pulling here and like, you know, like the canny.
But like go for the fucking knee.
Go for the stem set.
You know, like what are we doing?
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I feel bad now thinking back, like when I used to wrestle with my brother, we're too, we're like our age gap is a little.
too big. Like I was big I was bigger than him and I just kind of I can't beat the shit out of him
a little bit and I feel bad about it now I should I'll text him after this. Now you do yeah now you feel
bad but like in the moment you're also like that's like the sisterly and like brotherly love
that you need were you in were you and Lindsay ever that much um was your height difference
of Lindsay my whole life my whole life because I'm just built different and like Lindsay
Lindsay just isn't like she's she's not but but you know
what? She's not more like,
she's the one who like, like, pinches and scratches.
And I'm more like, bing, bink, you know.
Interesting.
So it's always, yeah, there's different methods.
I just remember with my brother, I would tackle him and I would, I would, this is so bad.
But I could end someone's day if we were wrestling, if I would scoop him up.
And then as I'm coming down, kind of like let go on my feet and then put all my body weight in my
shoulder and then just not just my brother like i mean i wrestled everyone like we was always wrestling
but like that was the killer is just a fucking shoulder right in your gut and take the wind out of you
and then just keep it walking i just like why why is that a human thing like why fighting
yeah like every animal on the planet they all fight each other it's for guess what
sex and alpha i don't think that i was fighting my sister for those things
It was more of her life of a shirt that she stole for me.
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Well, that shirt would then go into...
protective protection and safety.
And you were fighting over fabric.
Not sex or food.
No, but it comes down.
It's still like if you could break everything down,
it comes down to like survival.
Yeah.
But like, you know, it's just stupid.
I mean, whatever.
Yeah.
I know you're right.
But I mean, whenever I,
whenever I see two drunk guys at a bar fighting and I'm like,
These fucking idiots, like they don't look cool.
They don't look tough.
However, I think about all those videos you watch, there's a, there's like, let's
say, let's talk, let's say big horn sheep to big horn sheep on a mountain.
Yeah.
There's the female sheep.
And then there's one of the Rams comes walking through.
Yeah.
Because he could smell her.
And then another one shows up because she either put out a mating call or they could smell
or whatever.
Those two, she's going to, she fucking waits there.
And then those two sheep fucking ram heads at.
at like whatever million miles an hour
with so much force
and like whoever, whichever one of them backs down
the other one gets the girl.
And like, it's so lame
and we are civilized society
and we should be better than that.
But like I'm always like,
it's just so core to like what animals
have been doing forever.
It's just in a bar and these guys are like drunk
and there's like a bad song on.
That's the only difference.
Dude, also I was,
I got like stuck on
Sometimes I get stuck on like African safari type, I don't know, TikTok stuff.
I have no idea.
Yeah, it really is.
And I saw two hippos really going at it.
Oh.
And like, dude, insane.
Like it was, it's intense.
Hiffos are super dangerous.
Yeah.
And they're fast.
Yeah.
Did you know, were they male hippos?
Yeah.
Two male hippos going at it.
Something that I love about male hippos, or not male hippos, just suppose in general.
But like, you know, like when they poop, how they poop, how they.
like their tails like this and it goes after.
Like, why do I do that?
Like, why did they do that?
Because they can do whatever they want because they're hippos.
You know what I'm talking about though.
Yeah, I saw a video also the other day of an orca at SeaWorld.
So that orca is always pissed.
It's...
Yeah, he's in SeaWorld.
I agree.
It swims right by everyone.
Shits all in the water.
Swims away and then comes back and tail flaps the shit water onto everyone watching him.
And it's just like, you're petty, but I get it.
Like, that was, you have every right to do that.
Do you know, orcas have never killed a human being in the wild?
Never in the history of them being alive.
Rar and surprised.
But, like, people have been, like, scuba diving with them and watching them, whatever.
They, like, they kill fucking seals for fun all the time.
But, like, for some reason, they know something that we don't know about, like, human beings.
And they, like, see us as friends.
It's fucking, it's so confusing.
And I have no idea why.
But no one knows why.
Here's my thing is I love, I love the ocean.
Like I think it is so fascinating.
I think the animals are beautiful.
I think, I don't know, but the older I get,
I've always wanted to swim with whales.
I've always wanted to swim with sharks.
The older I get, I'm starting to get really freaked out
because of how fucking deep the ocean is.
Wait.
Yeah.
Guys, I swear to God, I was going to get here and ask this question,
but it's kind of super weird.
The ocean, I think 80% of it,
it's like unexplored because it's so deep and it's so dark.
Do we think aliens either live or will come from the ocean?
I think the Megalodon.
I think the Megalodon is real.
We know what it takes for something to live and survive in the ocean.
So I wouldn't consider anything that's like that we don't know about in the ocean to be an alien.
I believe in aliens in outer space, but like I think we know enough about the ocean
and what already currently lives in it that I wouldn't call these aliens.
But like, I'm sure there's shit that we don't know about.
Dude, like those big squids, those big squids that live way down low.
Dude, but like, think about like Jurassic Park,
Jurassic Park and those crazy animals that live.
I think that, like, we know enough that maybe those aliens that, like,
our typical aliens we think of aren't living in the ocean.
But I don't think we know a lot about, like, the depths of the ocean.
Because, like, no, we can't get down there.
Even the machines and stuff, they eventually break because of the pressure and shit like that.
All right, Pete.
What was that fucking that fucking boat called?
The little fucking sub sub...
Oh, the rigid...
The Redmondaires who went in this...
Yeah, submerser.
Why would they ever do that?
Wait, Kev, help me remember the name.
Ocean Gate.
One of them was a kid.
Oh.
That's sad.
I think I get scared that like an animal will like...
Will this like get me and like just keep taking me deeper, deeper, deeper, deeper, deeper, deeper, deeper, deeper.
Like, that's what I'm scared of.
But you...
I think you'd drown and die within 60 seconds.
because you're also like fighting to stay alive.
I would pray that idea.
Sometimes in the pool,
I'll try to see how long I can hold my breath,
max 12 seconds.
I can't hold my breath for fucking shit.
I am so bad.
That is horrible.
West,
you need to work on your breathing.
Breathing is really good to like reset your system.
It's really good for a lot of things.
You're an idiot.
He's getting close to 12.
I think he's going to go for a new personal record.
You may pass
We can't do anything
That's pretty good
That's long in 12 seconds
I think we're about like 10.15
Okay there's something
There's something about in the water
That just makes it harder for me
I don't know why
But that was that 20?
I didn't yeah I think that's pretty
That's nothing to do
You should seriously start working on your brooding
I mouth-tape when I go to bed
Does that matter?
It means you only breathe in and out
through your nose
That's supposed to be really good for you
No, I know, but I'm saying, like, for your nervous system, like, there's different types of breathing that, like, resets it and, like, I don't know.
You should, like, look into the breathing methods.
It's actually really good.
Okay.
I'll do that.
You should.
You should.
Hey, Kev, what the frick is going on in the world?
The most sporadic fucking no podcast.
I kind of love it.
And because we're in the creative headspace, I think my first headline I want to share to you guys is this stats company, Deloitte, did a survey.
for Gen Ziers, 18 to 29.
And over 38% of Gen Zeres
says they prefer to live in the present,
but 33% would love to live
less than 50 years in the past.
So that's about from 1975 to 1980,
14%.
So they want to live over 50 years in the past.
10%, so they want to live
less than 50 years in the future.
And 5% choose more than 50 years in the future.
So full Jetson level, like next level
society.
Guys, do you have a preferred era or a time period where you can imagine yourself existing and living in and thriving in?
This is an interestingly timed question for me right now because I don't, the present's not my favorite.
I think anyone who wants to live 50 years or more than 50 years, actually people were comfortable 50 years ago.
I think that would be fine.
But more than 50, I think it would be fun historically to like, like, like,
see how society was operating and like learn shit.
But I don't think you would want to like be alive pre.
I don't know, pre 1975.
It was just, like, I hate to bring this up, but like,
civil rights and shit was like not that long ago.
Like we always think of it like historically, but it is like very, very, very recent.
Yes.
And so I was just standing that.
When people were saying that, I was like,
like, why would you want that for people?
I just don't think it would actually be a, like, especially now where we are, like,
we have made a lot of progress.
I think living going back to that, you would be like, what the actual fuck am I doing here?
Yeah.
And it would be like a really weird fucking time to, or like a weird place to be present in.
In a weird way, maybe it would, it would, like, would you gain appreciation for everything
that we've made progress on and accomplished as a society,
but I still think that's fucking weird.
I think I'm going to go 50 years in the future.
Future.
Yeah, why not?
I would assume cars fly by then,
and ideally we'd have some more clarity of
on what's going on in the ocean by then.
The only thing is the planet could be on fire and flooded.
I just am like, let's mix it up.
You know?
Yeah, you really mix up.
I did not think that you were going to say that.
Kev said he wants to live around the middle ages and dark ages around 476 AD.
Okay.
Why?
I just think we can an incredible answer.
I already don't have like a very good sense of smell.
So obviously it's pretty stinky back then.
I don't think that would have to be like a big issue for me.
I think I won't look good in a suit of armor.
I'm just going to say it.
That's fair.
All black.
Would you, are you like living in your current geographical location as yourself?
Or can I go back?
100, 200 years and go live in a castle in like Scotland and be a king.
Yeah.
Here's mine.
So my dream, I think growing up in the 90s was freaking awesome.
Like it was simple times.
You had enough technology, but it wasn't overdone.
Your parents at games were on the back of tailgate thing with other parents drinking
beer.
You were out playing at like people, the style was better.
Everything was just like more simple.
And I just feel like it was just like happier times.
And I feel like there's a train of people trying to get back to the 90s.
I think the 90s were the best era.
Like I truly do.
Everything pendulums.
And so when I see now how every kid in like fifth grade has a cell phone and babies like are watching iPads at dinners and stuff.
We did.
Or do you know it drive me fucking crazy?
These fucking youth baseball videos I see on Twitter were like the kids wearing a GoPro and like,
a neon arm sleeve and there's a content guy.
That's what I'm saying.
That shit will go away and it's pretty miserable.
I do think you and I were like right before like technology like kind of ruined everyone.
Like I think we all got phones like late in high school and like, you know, I think.
But even though you had phones, like you were still so present with your classmates.
Like you were on your phone.
Like you enjoyed the people around who you had it if you needed it.
Like I'm telling you growing up.
I feel like 90s, early 2000s was the best.
Like I want to, I want to get back to that.
But I think that's my dream.
But I would also live, I haven't seen Game of Rooms.
No, we've talked about this.
I like didn't, I remember.
Oh, yeah.
Everyone talked about it in the locker room and I felt so left out.
And then I tried, but I was so far behind.
You should feel left out because it's so good.
But I would live in those ages, like the castles, the houses, the territories.
Like back then to, I think it had been.
Oh, everyone's on forces.
that's how people travel to a garden
It was awesome
But if you were a peasant or like a fucking
Whatever like if we're talking cast system
If you're at the bottom
It would be the worst thing
Ever
No I don't think you understand
I would be a queen
And I would have run my own keep though
Okay
Yeah fair enough
I'm not being a peasant
Okay then yeah
Then I guess we both
Can justify
historical times, but very, very, very far.
And if I could have dragons, I'd have some damn dragons too.
I would be the real mother dragons.
Yeah.
So yeah, I like that one.
I can see that.
All right, guys.
So now I'm going to take you to...
Oh, go ahead, Wes.
You got it.
I just don't know what these kids who are Gen Z or like,
whatever the youngest age was.
Where are you?
What do they know about...
I just don't picture those kids knowing anything about history.
because they're on their damn phone so much.
Yeah.
And they don't know maps.
They don't know fucking anything.
Dude, they don't know how to read.
They don't know how to read the original clocks.
Do you guys know that?
I can see that.
You guys know that?
I can see that.
That's fucking mind-blowing.
Yeah.
Cabber is sick.
I don't know of the time's right on here.
That it is.
That's okay.
I would all say like, you know, when people like do this or they do this,
like, oh, do your call, I'll take a phone now.
kids like they do this
like they don't know what this is.
Or they go like this.
Yeah, yeah, they don't know.
They're their iPhones.
Also, how do you guys hold up a heart?
Make a heart with your hands.
I don't do this shit.
That's annoying.
The Jet G one is like, I can't even, I'm embarrassing myself.
Yeah, I can't, I can't even, I can't even do it.
I think the K-pop girls made this cool.
Yeah, that's a good one.
That's a, yeah, that's what I was.
What is it?
That, I can't do that.
With this.
You're not even doing it right.
It's pointers and middle.
It's what?
It's literally hard.
Pointers and middle.
Oh.
Oh.
There you go.
Yeah, it's gross.
I like this.
All right.
All right.
What's next?
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So there's a new law alert in Kansas City.
I like this.
World Cup six weeks away.
They are now allowed to serve alcohol
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Kansas City, Missouri will be host to four
countries, England, Argentina,
Algeria, and Netherlands.
And then obviously the games will be at Arrowhead Stadium.
I feel like these England
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I feel like they'll enjoy this new rule.
But guys, any suggestions for our friends
coming to visit the States? Where does you hit up in KC?
I'm curious what hour
is the hour that they're not open.
Like, are we keeping bars open until...
Yeah.
Wait, Kev, honestly, can you click the link?
Does it say...
I have seen a lot of discourse on Twitter
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that they feel like
the whole thing has been, like, not projected correctly.
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So maybe there'd be closed then from five to six
If that math tracks
Dude
I think a good time to close
5 a.m.
I feel like by 5 a.m.
You've already done your damage
If you're not, you know.
Yeah, but what if your team's playing?
Like, what if your team is like, I don't know.
Is there even what I will say though?
That's interesting though
Because the games will be still North American time.
So they're not going to be like normally when the World Cup is overseas
you're like games are going on at three in the morning.
But now,
people from the Netherlands can drink, though.
I think they're going to meet their rats at the Midwesterners,
especially in Kansas City.
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I think people are going to, I think people in Kansas City
and who's all coming,
people from the Netherlands,
Algeria, Netherlands, Argentina, and England.
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Everyone is so great in Kansas City.
They're going to love it.
So Kansas City actually has a good base of soccer fans.
They're called like the Outlaws or something.
And they watch U.S. games at Power and Light.
Like you know where everyone goes to watch games at P&L.
And they all like camp out there.
I hope they still get to like keep that spot.
But if all these people are staying out there for 24 hours a day, it's going to be mayhem.
Yeah, but maybe they'll embrace it because now they have other people that
are also fans.
Yeah.
We'll see.
Oh, I know what you mean.
Dude, so if you guys are listening, Power and Light, I think is the way to go.
If you're like, especially in that environment, there's like, how many bars are in Power in
Light?
Like 15.
Yeah, 15 in one spot, all different types of vibes.
Power and Light will like always be on TV too.
They'll always cut to it when US is playing.
So that's dope.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's fun.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Honestly, it was a very good and sporadic episode.
Yeah, it was a lot of WNBA and then just straight into ocean talk.
Yeah.
A lot of, we went into a lot of details and a lot of things.
That was good.
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I like that.
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