Show Me Something - Sophie & West welcome Meredith Marks who Spills on DJ Life, Jen Shah's release & The Plane Footage

Episode Date: December 22, 2025

This week, Sophie Cunningham and West Wilson welcome Real Housewives of Salt Lake City icon Meredith Marks for an episode that goes everywhere—in the best way. Meredith breaks down the infamous airplane incident (and why the “footage” would’ve made things way less interesting), plus she shares her favorite seat on a flight and the wildly calming secret she falls asleep to: airplane cabin noise. From there, it’s pure Bravo-meets-business. Meredith gets real about being more than a “housewife,” what fuels her entrepreneurial drive, and how a major life moment pushed her into building her luxury empire—jewelry, caviar, and everything in between. West also has one burning question: was he robbed of the Fashion Forward award? Meredith weighs in, and they swap style talk—from fashion inspirations to what it’s actually like pulling looks for big events. And because it’s Meredith, we’re talking DJ life too: how Pride gigs turned into a full-blown career, what crowds hit the hardest, and what her DJ tour schedule looks like now. Plus: Brooks Marks tracksuits get their flowers, and Meredith dishes on the chaos of live appearances—including her and Jesse Solomons’ on-stage singing adventures.Get an Arby's Double Roast Beef or Double Beef 'n Cheddar in-store or Doordashed today. https://www.arbys.com/Shop SKIMS Fits Everybody Collection at https://www.skims.com/showmeAll lines provided by ‪Hard Rock Bet#VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Do you think? I think probably not. I would think that they're not airing it there, but I don't know. I don't really know. Could you just walk into a prison and it's just Salt Lake City Housewives and all the cafeteria TV? Like that would be so wild. Yeah.

So wild. It would be crazy. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to Show Me Something podcast. Today is a very, very exciting day for our podcast. We are doing something new, something we've never done before. And we're starting it all with a freaking. Thanks.

Guys, it is, I want to say best friend first, but also she's an entrepreneur, fashion jewelry powerhouse, a DJ. We love DJs in the Bravo world and also a WNBA lover. The wonderful, beautiful, incredible Meredith Marks, our first guest. Cannot be any better. This is so fun. I'm so excited to be the first one. First things first, happy belated V-Day.

Thank you. Did you do anything super silly? You know what? I had a really chill day. I had lunch with an old friend of mine and Brooks and his boyfriend. And then I got a massage and then I went to dinner with my family. Really chill. It was amazing.

Exactly what I needed. Was that in New York? In New York. Yeah. Oh, in New York. Oh, beautiful. Yeah. The kids all.

live there. So, you know, we're there somewhat part-time, but the kids are all there. Wait, do you think you're going to move up there? I mean, I've been there part-time for many, many years. I don't think I'll ever move there full-time. I love New York, but I also love coming and going. You know, it's intense. It's so much fun. But, like, I don't know if I could handle it 365 days a year. It's a lot. You are a remind. Everyone born in Chicago. Correct. Born in Chicago.

Or grew up in Chicago. Yeah. And then when did you move to Salt Lake and what was like the whole process getting to Salt Lake? Yeah. I mean, we were in Chicago and Seth, he had an opportunity as an executive at Overstock.com, which is based in Salt Lake. And he called me from there and was like, I think we should move here. And I was like, well, I don't know. I've never even lived in a suburb, nonetheless, a ski resort.

So I was like, okay, let's see what it's like living in Park City. Let's try it out. And it was very, very different, especially raising kids, you know, in Park City versus Chicago. And we had, you know, we'd moved around a little bit. The kids had gone to school in Toronto. And, you know, we've, Seth had commuted at times to Dallas and other places as well. So, you know, they had bounced around a bit, but it was wild. Like, raised near kids in a ski town is very, very different.

I think for anyone who doesn't know, part of the whole reason this trio is happening right now is because Meredith and I sat next to each other at the U.S. Open. And I was asking her life story. And I think when you said you were from Chicago, I was like, are you a – I always ask people like, cubs or white socks. And you're like not really into like many big team sports, but I love to definitely. I'm not really a sports girl in general. Like, I'm not.

But I went last year to the championship game. And it was the coolest experience I'd ever had in the sports world at all. And I do love sports with horses that I do actually do a little bit more. I do, like horse racing or equestrian, any of that I do love. But, you know, in terms of like watching a basketball game, with these women who are insanely incredible and just like rock stars on the basketball court. It was phenomenal. It just felt good.

It was like a really feel good moment. And so I am a huge supporter. I can't say I watch every game or anything because like I said, I don't watch a tennis sports, but I love it. I love it. I'm like such a fan. You have no idea. Oh, well, thank you.

to get you to a fever game because they're just like so different and so much more fun compared to all these other games. But kind of with you. Like I, when it comes to Housewives, I actually watch two year seasons, which is like a lot for me because of how busy I am. It's hard for me to keep up. But I have gone down a damn rabbit hole. And oh my gosh, do I have so many questions for you? This is so awesome. So you, I'll get into like the Housewives and you being a complete badass. But I have got to know. And so many people are wondering, how did you get into this DJ? Because I think it's awesome, but Bravo loves a good DJ. Like, I'll always go out.

Honestly, it has been the most fun thing I have ever done in my life. It's like having a party every night, but not really having to do all the heavy lifting. And people are having fun, you know? That's the whole thing. It's so good, just engaging with people just literally having a good time. But it came about really because I was asked to DJ for pride. And so I thought, okay, well, this whole cut. Wait, where?

Like in Utah? No, I had, at first it was Pittsburgh and then West Hollywood and they were like back to back Oh. I think literally like the next day and I was very nervous in Pittsburgh like anyone who was at that show must have been like, oh my gosh,

she's terrifying. But it was really cute. They rolled me out in a bathtub and then it was awesome. It was so fun. So cute. and then West Hollywood was huge. It was like, I don't know, maybe a couple thousand people. I'm not really sure. It looked like a lot of people, though.

I can tell you that much. And I had the best time. And it was just, that's how it all started, was with pride. I was like, okay, sure. And then the phone started ringing. Wow. Wow. I appreciate that because I obviously am friends with Kyle Cook, who has gotten in a lot of high.

water for his late DJ career. And so you being able to do it and almost have his back in a way, just making sure people know that you can be a DJ. Honey, I've got like 10 years ahead. I've got like 10 more years on Kyle. As much as I hate to admit it. Well, you don't look like it at all. So I think you're doing just fine.

Thank you. Yeah. No, I love it. I think Kyle's great. We had a lot of fun. We did an Amazon event together. And that was super, super fun. And, you know, I adore him.

And I think he's a great DJ. So I fully support. I was the bottle girl for you. Do you remember? That's right. I brought this. Yeah, I brought the sign down that said DJ Meredith's. That was so fun.

Oh my gosh. That was so much fun. Wasn't that a great night? What's been your favorite city or like venue that you've DJed at thus far? I mean, like it depends. Probably Times Square just because that's like

such an iconic place and like anything you do in Times Square is incredible. But it was less engaged because you know you are in the middle of Times Square you've got people like walking in and walking out and you know and but like any venue or West Hollywood

you definitely have people that are like they are there, they are staying, no one's moving around and it's great. But Times Square for sure has, it's just, it's just not something I ever thought what happened in my life. Like, if you had told me five years ago, you're going to DJ in Times Square, I'd be like, you're crazy. I mean, if you had told me 20 years ago, I'd live in Utah, I'd say you're crazy. So, you know, my life has been this very bizarre roller coaster that I never anticipated. Tis the season, the season for roast beefing. I like this. I think this is our favorite sandwich yet. Even better. Make that Arby's recipe sandwich a double. And there's nothing like unwrapping in Arby's classic roast beef or a beef and cheddar sandwich. Dude, double the meat is exactly what you deserve this holiday season. And you know you want it.

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I do not know how you do it. And Wes can attest to that. Like, I'm just feisty, but I can tell you have some fire to you too. I want to get into, this is so fun. Am I even allowed to ask this? Jen Shaw just got out of prison. And I think there's so much buzz about it. People are wondering, has like anyone talked to her?

Have you personally talked to her? Do you think she'll be back for next season? Like, what is the vibe around that? So I have not spoken to her since she got out. She did call me once from prison about. a year and a half ago or so. And it was a 10-minute recorded call, so it was very basic, you know,

nothing, all that interesting, just sort of, how are you and, you know, whatever. But no, I've not heard from her. I'm guessing I will at some point in time. I'm sure she wants to get her affairs in order. It's been a moment. It's been a few years. So I'm sure at some point I will hear from her.

I don't know what will happen with her coming back or not. You know, that's way out of my league. You know, it's something I don't know. Andy seems to say no. So my guess is probably not then. I was going to say someone, someone asked Andy and he like, it sounded like he kind of axed it pretty quick. But, yeah, maybe it.

But like people love a comeback and people, I don't know, writing their wrongs and growing and learning. And I don't know if it's true or not, but my opinion would be that he would probably be much more receptive if she had paid her restitution. And he, like, knew that there was a change, you know, that she had been reformed and changed and grew. And there was something like a positive ending to the story. I think my guess is he would be much more open to it. But, you know, I'm not in his brain. That's just my opinion. Do you guys like miss her? Do you like want her to come back? Or do you like the vibe of the show now. You know, that's something I can't really answer because I don't know what the vibe would be like now if she were here. Things have changed so much, even within just, you know, those of us who have been there from the beginning who were there with her. Our dynamics have shifted so many times by so much. Everyone has grown a lot. And I'm sure she has too, you know, it's been six years. And so I don't know what the dynamic would be. Damn. I'm sure that so much has changed. Like, even just like with you,

in everything you're doing outside of the show. Like, I'm sure, like, she would be shocked to even see, like, where your career has taken off. Like, I just think it'd be weird, in my opinion. Yeah, who's going to tell Jen in the next few days that Meredith is a DJ? And she's in DJing in Boston tonight. I have a feeling she knows all that already. I think she's probably been kept, you know, a prize on information from her family and her manager and other people around her.

So I think she has a clue as to what's been going on. I always see videos of people in prison with, like, cell phones and stuff. I wonder if she's gotten to, like, watch the show. Do you think? I think probably not. I would think that they're not airing it there, but I don't know. I don't really know. Could you just walk into a prison and it's just salt, Salt Lake City housewives and all the cafeteria TV?

Like, that would be so wild. Yeah. So wild. It would be crazy. Did you guys, you guys filmed their reunion already? Yes. So that's out of the way. Do you, like personally couldn't hate anything more?

Do you enjoy a reunion or do you like count down the minutes till it's over? I think it really depends on the year and what's gone on. This year it was very cathartive for me. I kind of really got to say the large majority of what I wanted to say. I missed a few things for sure. We always do. but I really felt like I got things off my chest. And, you know, whether the error or not is not my decision.

And I'm okay with that. Like, it's fine. For me, it was more I just had to kind of say my peace and know that the ladies heard it and, you know, everyone else. And if it air is great. If it doesn't, then say lovey, you know. You know, I think that is such great advice because I think everyone knows that, you know,

your kids are kind of getting into this spotlight. And I think that they can rely on you a lot for kind of the things to do, maybe just stay away from. But does, like, what advice do you give them? Because, I mean, this life can be brutal, but it can also be awesome at the same time. 100%. I mean, I always say it's like a love-hate relationship. And I have a lot more love than hate. And if it ever flips to the opposite, I won't do it anymore.

But, you know, the positives are off the charts. The negatives can be rough. And my main thing for them, and I think for really for anyone on any kind of reality TV, is just to really be sure to be true to yourself. There's a lot of people around you. You're talking to a lot of people. You have a lot of people, you know, saying, oh, you should do this. You should do that, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.

You should do what you want to do and what resonates as authentic and true to yourself. Because anything that you do, because somebody told you to do it, or because you think it's going to make good TV or because somebody else on another show did it and the audience loved them or whatever is not going to work and you're going to regret it. This summer, take your FIFA fan festival Vancouver experience to the next level.

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on I have radio, Apple Podcasts, or whatever you get your podcast. Did you have pause when when NextGen wanted to like full-time cast Brooks? And like, are you like do it? It's been so good for me. Like I want you to have the same experience or like

you're, but at the end of the day you're still his mom and I'm curious if any of the bad experiences you've had kind of like made you uh, worried. I mean, he kind of helped put it together. So it wasn't like he came in all of a sudden, like, I have a surprise for you. You know, they reached out. He had been very much an integral part of putting the show together. And so, no, it was kind of brewing for a long time, a very long time.

They took a really long time to, you know, figure out the right mix and get everyone on board and the whole thing. And I think they did a phenomenal. job. I think the cast is absolutely amazing and both on screen and off. I think they're really truly great people. And I'm very proud of all of them. I feel like the mama bear. I was just going to say at the Bravo Awards or whatever, I presented the rookie of the year award and it was to their whole cast. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, rookie the year. So they crushed. Yeah. Well, I think that was kind of my thing. It's really cool to hear that those people, like spending time off the camera together

and like they're good people off camera. Do you guys feel like that's how you guys are out in Salt Lake? Like do you have even the time to spend time to go to dinner, get coffee, hang out? Or like, is it really just like in season? You're doing this. And then out of season, you're busy as heck you don't have time. It varies year to year.

You know, all of us have different things going on at different times. And like this year has been insanely busy for me. And last year it was like that for Lisa. you know, like she was running around like a crazy person and that's, you know, what I have this year. And so everyone kinds of ebbs and flows. And because I, you know, really only live in Park City about five months out of the year, I'm gone a lot. Don't you kind of love that? Like I, like, because I'm telling you, like, for the W, I love my time with them. And the majority of the time I could hang out with them year round. But there are people in our league that I'm like, I need a break from you. And I don't want to see you until next season. Like, don't text. Don't wall.

That's why I travel as much as I do, you know? Like, I mean, I don't want, I don't need to spend that much time with anybody. Except my family, my husband and kids. I mean, my mom, you know, my sister, like my family, I could be with all the time. But even they can get on my nurse sometimes. I love them dearly. That's why you're DJing. Yeah.

Get another gig. I will say with reality TV and like the cast you have, it does feel like, and I think my show is a show where like, I think the reason people like it is because they can tell that we all do like really, really, really like each other. But even in like this environment where like every aspect of your friendships and who you're with doing what, it's like so heavy and talked about and like so much like such a big deal at all times that like when you're not filming, it is refreshing to like kind of take a second to yourself. And like when you're with each other, it's so intense during those filming months that like when it's over,

taking a step back is like, it's not like offensive to anyone. Like everyone just takes their time to kind of like figure themselves out. And then like, you know, you film again and bring it back together. I think that's, I mean, I think taking a moment to yourself is normal.

You know, I think that it's healthy, normal, you know, like, I mean, these last, like when we ended in Greece,

I've stayed and I didn't go home for about a month. Yeah. I took a month in Europe. have to her. Oh my God. No, Seth came and met me like a day or two later.

We had a wedding a few weeks later in the English countryside anyway. So, I mean, he was planning on going maybe a week later, but I called him. I'm like, this was Robb.

Come now. Oh, good for you. I was supposed to say, you're better than me. I'd be like, give me a week and a half to myself, then come and hang out with me. But I feel you on that. As someone who is very proud of where they're from, and I feel like I'm an obnoxious tour guide

when people visit Missouri or Montana, I related to Angie Kay being like so over the top about everything Greece because she's proud and just wants everyone to love Greece or whatever. I found that so endearing and cute because you know people don't care as much as you, but you still give it a shot. And I just found her Greek pride to be something I kind of like,

saw I myself. There's something coming up where, you know, we learn a lot more about her family. And I don't think it aired yet, right? Yeah, no, it's in here yet. But it's coming. And we learn a lot more about her family. And for me, that was really very helpful to get insight into her as a person, you know. And it was honestly my favorite part of the trip because, you know, I learned more about Greece.

It was a beautiful setting, everything else. But I also really got a much better understanding of her and her family and where they came from. And I just thought it was really cool. I love that. Sophie, at BravoCon, everyone just kind of mingles and is like all over the place. I have to say on the record that the Salt Lake City women are like are the queen bees everywhere you want. Everyone wants to take pictures. Like center table at the award ceremonies like always stars of the show.

Meredith, I don't think I've said this to you yet, but like, your cat, like people like are so infatuated with you guys. And every single one of you are like so uniquely themselves and like powerful. And I just am as someone who like doesn't watch every housewife show, I, you guys are like such a dynamite cast. And I think everyone knows that. But it was so crazy to see it in person. She's sitting over there like, we know. Like you're not telling us anything we don't know. You know, we never know what's going to like work or not work.

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Because I was just, like, wanting to know everything. West, what was it? Is that not true? Like, I would. Yeah, she's about to order your jewelry for everyone for Christmas. I don't say that, but I was going to say I absolutely love, love, love, love your jewelry. I want to hear about your caviar. I want to hear about your bathbombs.

Like, tell us about this stuff because I, like I said, I'm like new to all this. But so many people are like, oh my God, ask about her jewelry, how that all started. I'm like, hell yeah, let's hear it. Because it's beautiful. Thank you. Thank you. I started my jewelry company. What are we going on now?

I think we're on, we're almost on our 20th year, but not quite. I think it's 18. I have to double check. No. Yeah, 2008. So 2028 will be 20 years. We're almost there. And it was kind of crazy because, you know, I had been in real estate development and I

owned kind of like an alternative health club, like we specialize in Pilates and gerotonics and yoga and stuff like that. And I started Pilates in hot yoga this week, and it is kicking my ass. Because you have like muscles you never knew you have. Get this right. Oh my God. Sorry. Not to cut you off.

That is like, it is so, so good. Like I'm starting to become like addicted and obsessed. No, it's amazing. And so I had had this gym and one morning at 9 a.m. I dropped my oldest son, Reed, who you guys don't really get to. to see very often off at school and went to some meeting in the school after and got

very aggressively mugged at 9 a.m. and broad daylight on a very safe street in Chicago walking home. I was like dragged across the street. It was bad. And what? Wait, what?

Why does no one know this? Do people know this story? I don't talk about it all that often, you know? I don't know. It was really, it was, it was insane. The guy was dragging me across the street by handbag because I wouldn't let go, not because I meant to not let go. It was like the, you know, the fear you brace yourself and you're not thinking, you know? And so he's dragging my whole body. But a taxi driver stopped and started chasing him. He went to prison for three years

for aggravated battery. Yeah. Oh, so we got him? We found him. We found him. We found him. Okay. Him and Jim were talking about you in prison. Yeah. Now, different prisons. He was in state. He was in state. Oh, man. But I should not be saying this. I don't even know Jim like that. No, but she was with Gilairene Maxwell and Elizabeth Holmes, though. They served in the same prison as her, which is wild.

That's crazy. That's like a story to hear for sure. I'm very curious to hear about that. But in any case, so I was, I decided in that moment that I didn't want to be in real estate that It was dragging me, like, away from my kids too much. And I sold everything and as is condition, like, just dumped it all. And then the real estate market crashed like a year later. You know, it was like the whole mortgage back security debacle, the whole, it was a disaster.

So I would have been in a lot of financial trouble and I got saved by getting mugs somehow. I don't know. And that was at the same time, I said to say, I don't know what I really want to do now. And I was trying to figure it out. And he said, well, I'm going on this business trip to India and Hong Kong. I said, you know, a lot of the really fabulous gemstones come out of India. And Hong Kong's a major trading center for it as well.

I think I'm going to tag along and I've started a jewelry collection. And my mother called me screaming. She's like, we are in the worst recession of my lifetime and you're starting a luxury business. And I said, yeah, I am. And I did. She wouldn't be your mom. She wouldn't be your mom if she didn't do that. No, I appreciate it.

You need that. We all need that. We all need people to tell us not to do it so that you fight harder for it, you know. And I did. And that was it. I basically went. I got a lot of manufacturing contacts, a lot of contacts for loose stones. I studied at the Gemological Institute of America to learn a little bit.

And I just dove in head first. And that was it. it and I've loved it ever since. Jewelry is, it's my passion, you know. And from there, when I got on the show, I really wanted to figure out something consumable that also sits in the luxury space. And caviar was another passion.

Yeah. So we kind of ran there and, you know. Caviar's having a moment right now. One, I would say. It's a stain. It's everywhere. But it's great. I'm thrilled.

Wait, random question. Do you, not like take offense, but do you, like, you guys are called, had the housewives or housebuffs like whatever, but everyone is, I mean, at least you are so much more than a housewife. It's almost like such an outdated name. Like, they're never going to change the name of the show. But like, you guys are all entrepreneurs or in business owners and like you were in real estate. Like, does that name bug? Like when people say Meredith's the housewife, do you take? I don't take offense to that anyway.

I don't take offense to it, but I don't want to be pigeonholed into that being the whole essence of my being. Like you're saying, I like things to be shown in a broader picture. And I really think that's true of the large majority of the women on my show, maybe not on all of the shows, but at least on mine. I think we all kind of, you know, feel that way. And that's why, like, people were like, oh, she removed R-H-O-S-L-C out of her bio. She's not coming back. It wasn't there. The only change I made this season was I added waterbender.

So, because I just think everyone Everybody knows So stop giving murder the shit, everybody. Leave her alone. Everybody knows I'm on housewives. I don't need to scream that out from the rafters. It's the other stuff that I need to make sure people know. Everybody knows I'm on it.

Like that's, it's already a defining thing. So I want to make sure I'm highlighting other aspects of my life, like being a water bender. It's very important. Yeah. Hell yeah. Did you always know you had that, entrepreneur spirit in you, like even when you were doing real estate? Or did you kind of learn to

appreciate that process, like when you started like getting into everything? Even real estate, I mean, I was in development. I mean, that's pretty entrepreneurial. I was buying homes, renovating them, selling them, building them new on, you know, empty lots, stuff like that. So I've always had a drive for different entrepreneurial things. I kind of like can't help myself. I just like to keep creating and building and growing. And it's almost like a disease, you know, and that's, and then, you know, it's fun. I think it's inspiring. No, I really do.

Because I will say, like, when the whole Bravo, like, you guys, and this is a good thing. You guys have a good cult. You guys have a great following. Like, do not get me wrong. But when I was like going down my rabbit hole, you know, I learned that there's so much about you. And there's so much, there's so much about your cast members. And I was like getting inspired. I'm like, damn, like these women like, yeah, I know they film,

but they have so much more like stuff to them that people should really start. Don't just judge them off a little clip here and there. Like go and see what these women are about. And so like, I'm not kidding. I was like, I think I love Meredith. I was like, I don't know her, but I think I like love her. Thank you. Right back at you, you know.

I mean, I have to say, look, my cast lover, hate them, you know, some I love a lot more than others, but they really do all, for the most part, not all, most. Lee have very, and, you know, they're very interesting outside of the show and have stuff going on and are trying to, you know, do very interesting things. And I think it's cool, you know. I respect it. Wait, does that ever annoy you guys, though?

Does that ever annoy you that, like, you can't, the show doesn't highlight, like everything you guys are about and like what you're doing, it sometimes gets kind of like the bad or like the sassy caddy type stuff rather than like all the great things you're doing. Yeah, of course. There are times in a very season to season, you know, like this year, all we're seeing about me is not very positive, you know. Like we didn't see anything with me and Seth and it, you know, it's like the first year that he's actually been fully remote in decades where he's with me 24-7. And would I have liked to show? okay set? Yes, of course, but for whatever reason it didn't, you know, work. And that's the nature of

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Listen to learning to be human on IHard Radio, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Yeah. Well, I want it. Can you get it to me because I've been dying? You know what actually happens? Well, let me say this. I can promise you if I was screaming, dumping wine and pulling hair, there would have been video footage. And I would have been an unruly passenger and faced some pretty serious consequences. I'm not saying nothing happened. Something did. But what they're saying happened is not what happened. When people are crazy on planes, everyone has their phone out. You don't ever see. like, not go anywhere. When people are weird on planes, everyone films.

Absolutely. Absolutely. Everyone films. So, like, did you ever finish the movie? Did you ever go back and see, like, how that movie ended? You know what? I have watched the movie, like, before. And I just,

I fell asleep in it. And honestly, for me, movies, I don't get that engrossed in them. You know, I kind of am halfway watching. I'm halfway scrolling on my phone, answering emails,

answering text messages. For me on the plane, the movies are like something to have in my ear to just distract from whatever else is going on on the plane. Yeah. It's like a side piece. Some people can't go to sleep without their TV on. That is true. I'm not one of them. But you know what I do actually like on my phone when I'm trying to sleep is the airplane noise.

I play that on my phone. It's kind of bizarre, isn't it? Is that just like brown noise or is it its own? Is that its own genre of... It's called airplane. I don't know. But I like it. I actually, contrary to what everyone thinks, I am not a nervous traveler.

I'm actually an excellent traveler. I love flying. It's my peaceful time. It's my time to myself. Maybe not particularly on that flight as much than mine. But generally speaking, it is a very, like, zen time for me. I love it. You know, I kind of, like, get work done.

And I love it. I can't see. This says airplane cabin white noise is a full playlist. And all these songs are just airplane cabin white noise. That's amazing. That's funny. It's so good. That's actually hilarious.

Are you as particular when you fly as Lisa? In terms of what? In terms of not flying in 17C? Yeah, just needing to be in. Doesn't she have one seat that she like has to be on for every time she's on a plane? No, but she does have a seat preference for sure. She actually. likes an aisle. I like a window, so that

works well. My favorite seat is the bulkhead window, you know, front row window because there's enough room where you can easily find out if someone's sleeping. And there's, you know, but no one's bothering me

to get out. So I like it. That's my favorite seat. I think it would be fun to just like travel with everyone, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, try it. She's like, don't do it. Don't ever do it.

Dude, that is hilarious. The trips can be so amazing and they can also be so rough, you know. I'm sure because you can't go anywhere. Well, yeah, how long do they normally last? Is it just like a weekend? Is it a couple days? Greece was four days and that's four nights. So really five days.

That's long. Like, that's long, you know. That's the longest trip I think we've ever been on. So, but like usually like we have, well, this year we had the RV trip, which was early on. You know, so usually what you'll do is you'll have like one or two little short trips that are a night or maybe two nights and then you'll have a bigger trip that's three or four. All right, quick time out. Today's show is brought to you by our new presenting sponsor Hard Rock Bet. If you're new to sports betting, this app makes it super easy to jump in.

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Bronwyn won the Fashion Forward Bravo Award. She beat me. Would you be down to lobby that I was robbing? of the Fashion Forward Award at Prophical. I would lobby for you absolutely. Absolutely. Amazing. That's all I needed.

She does have absolutely nutty outfits and they all are pretty sick. I actually got to meet her the second to last night. And she's like, she's on at all time. She was like fun. Just we all were, it was everyone was cozy in a bar wearing hoodies after four days of makeup and I got to know her a little bit. Do you guys have like,

do the housewives all have like a stylist and whatnot or do you guys just do your own thing? I think everybody for big things works with someone from time to time and I think it varies how much, you know, I think it just depends. You know, it's a lot of clothing,

both like on the show and in real life, you know. I mean, I can't speak for everyone else, but I go to a ton of events, you know, and that right. there is a ton of stuff. Sometimes I'll style myself. Sometimes I have a handful of stylists I'll hire. Sometimes I have my kids help me.

It just totally depends on what it is and what I need and how much time I have on my hands. I love to do it when I have the time. But sometimes you just literally have no time. Right. So you do love that. Like that's a... I love fashion. I love clothes.

I love accessories. I obviously love jewelry. You know, it's, it's, a lot of fun for me, but it can get overwhelming at times. It can be just way too much. I just don't like the going out and shopping piece. Like, I don't have time. I love it, but I don't have time to like go do it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, I think sometimes people think or like want to discredit you for if you use a stylist, given that it's like not a look you put together, but for most people, I think it's the convenience of not having to, like, actually

think about it and put the time together to create this stuff. Wouldn't you say, Meredith, that, like, half of the point of BravoCon is, like, what people are wearing? I think it's just like... That's like the whole point. I think everyone wants to see what you're wearing, how you look, what you look like in real life, you know? Do you look as good as you look on TV?

Do you look worse? Do you look better? you know, and then they all express a lot of love, which is amazing. I will say I use a stylist for like half of my tunnel fits, and I have no shame in that. Like, I think that the people who go to school and know that type of stuff for that, why would I not use them? And I also don't have your guys as talent, though. Like, I feel like you guys are all very, like, artsy and just like are very in touch with that side of like what looks good on you. And I just don't have the time for it.

So I'm like, you guys go pick out my clothes. I'll wear it. check. See you later. Do you do an outfit like do you have an outfit plan for every tunnel walk? Or does it just sometimes? I think the majority of my tunnel fits, I do. But you can 100% tell when I did not

use them because I'll be wearing this. Shores and a T-shirt. Yeah, literally. We got to get Brooks, get you Brooks tracksuits. Yes, we do. That can actually be. So he just dropped his new collection. I bought like everything.

It's fabulous. So yes, we need to do that. Wait, tell me what is. Who is lone wolf? Fresh wolf. It's Lisa. It's not lone wolf. It's Jack and Henry Barlow's hair care, men's grooming company.

Yeah. Oh, okay. I knew someone. Yeah. Wait, tell me more about the clothing line. Is it like, is it men, women? It's unisex. So he launched it with his original track suit, which, you know,

had like the Brooks marks going down the side. But now he has a new collection that's in this fabric that he, he I think has some kind of IP on called Terry Light. And it's like this lightweight Terry that has given it. And it's very like lux and comfy and gorgeous. And so he did hoodies, zip-ups, pants, shorts, and then these matching totes that are really cute. cute too in four different color waves and it's it's fab we got to get you guys some it's really

fab i'm looking it up right now as you speak yeah it's amazing hell yeah oh yeah wait these are super cool it's really really cool i love it and it's like just chic and comfortable and i don't know i was west when you were like oh we were all in our hoodies at night like a couple nights before the in a bravo club, I was like, why did I have a night like that? I was dressed all day and all night every day. Well, it's crazy that sometimes people were cut or like you just by how things schedule, you could be done at like 2.30 p.m. and some people were doing stuff till midnight.

And if you, you know, if all of your breaks came like in the middle, then you were there for, you know, 100 hours a day. I got, I was done at like one the last day. And I went. showered and put on sweatpants and, like, ordered, I think I ordered pizza and then just went and had beers downstairs. But some people, some people didn't get that lunch. No, I watched what happens live in the last night.

So I definitely was going to the tail end. Oh, yeah, you sing. Oh, gosh. Wait, I have to ask. I was singing with Jesse. He's wonderful. The singing part for me was not my forte. When I saw I was supposed to sing on that, I kind of went a little, like I got a little

panicked. And then I just said, forget it. I don't care. I'm just doing it. And I'll just be bad. And it doesn't matter that it's bad. People can laugh at me and I'll laugh right along with them. And it was fine.

So they booked you to sing and didn't tell you? It was in an email that had a lot of information. And I just happened to miss that little snippet until Jesse mentioned it to me like the day before. And I was like, oh gosh. No, they didn't lie to me. It was my own fault. Yeah. Yeah.

That is hilarious. Wait. Well, it was fun. Yeah. Wait, I want to know because we'll let you go here in a second. But where, like, are you already booked for, like, DJing for, like, the next couple months? Because I feel like me and West should go to it. Oh, my gosh.

Yes. Absolutely. Let me know when we actually have my tour schedule. So I have tonight and tomorrow night out of Boston and then I have Chicago for, you know, Saturday and Sunday, Forta Vayarta for New Year's Eve and New Year's Day. And then I start up again in mid-January. And my schedule is on my Instagram and you guys can tell me whatever show you want to go to. If we're sold out, we will get you in no matter what. Just let me know what you want to go to. Yeah. It will be so fun. I would love it. Wow. Maybe I'll get you guys to come out on

on stage for like a shot or something. Say list That's incredible Yes Yes I would love it That would be amazing We have to let you go

But this was such a fun special treat And I'm honored That you are This is so fun Meredith you are a gym You guys I love you

You guys are fabulous And I can't wait to come See a game And Wes I'll see you Hopefully At another round of the US Open but in some other fabulous parties.

I love it. I love it. Thank you, Mary Day. Thank you, thank you. Sending you lots of love. Of course. Bye. American soccer is exploded.

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