Shutdown Fullcast - 40 FOR 40: Real Gasparilla Hours

Episode Date: December 11, 2024

It's the unavoidable return of 40 For 40, in which we preview each college football postseason game in as much detail as they each deserveSubjected to scrutiny today: the Celebration, Veterans, Frisco, Boca Raton, L.A., New Orleans, Cure, and Gasparilla BowlsBut first: this Bill Belichick bullshitAnd Army/Navy!Fullcast theme song arranged and performed by Russell PowellTickets for the Tuscaloosa Get Up 3 are on sale now: https://ci.ovationtix.com/36768/production/1216165Listen to Ryan's other, less harrowing show, We're Not All Like This, and check out his new narrative podcast with Steven Godfrey, Who Killed College Football? https://www.wkcfb.com/Check out Jason's free CFB Watch Grid newsletter and other work: https://www.jasonkirk.fyi/Find Holly and Spencer writing and chirping at https://channel-6.ghost.io/Purchase only the finest Fullcast gear at sunny https://preownedairboats.com/

Who do we know at UNC that could smuggle us the Bill Belichick 400-page football Bible? Felder? If Felder can get it, that would be great. Michael Jordan. I mean, I don't want to out people at UNC. Kevin, come on. Okay.

Let's have it. It's got to be. Yeah, that's probably right. There's a lot of Kevin's. I love this thing, man. As of this recording, Bill Belichick has not been announced as UNC's football coach. But it's getting a lot closer than we thought it would have. I would have been anything.

I would have bet anything and pretty much did on the last show that this was a PR stunt. I mean, I think this might be a thing where for anyone with a normal brain, it would have been, but he's really weird, you know? I kind of wonder if it started as a PR stunt and then other candidates, and I'm just speculating wildly. If you want actual information, go listen to Splitsone or something, if other candidates were like, wait, what? I'm up against who? And they were just sort of like, I'm not doing this. And then Bill Belichick was like, uh-huh, I see the opening, head coached waiting Steve Belichick signed on the done line right now.

Like, ugh, I don't know, man. Like, first of all, the whole thing is smacks of Charlie Weiss. It's giving Herm Edwards. Like, all of this just looks like, oh, big brain genius NFL man is going to come explain football to the moron. And then next thing, you know, they're like, oh, shit, they already thought of this. Uh-oh. You know, I, I'm not seeing the massive upside, but if it comes along with like, yeah,

we're going to dump tens of millions of dollars into NIL, then. Which they're not going to this way. If they were going to do that, they could go get somebody else. They could very easily hire a much cheaper coach with more normal expectations. Who wouldn't say my son, Steve, gets to be coached next. That's the real thing that's happening. The defensive coordinator of the, what, six and six Washington Huskies must be your next head coach. For all our criticism of like, boy, Rucker is really bent over backwards for Greg Shiano.

He didn't tell them, and Steve Shiano gets to be coached next. Pete Shiano. That's the other upsetting part. It's UNC. Right. Bill Belichick has established a lifetime of being the only person who loves Rutgers football. Greg Shiano, when he left Rutgers, he wasn't showing up every chance he got. He wasn't drafting every Rutgers player he possibly could for no reason.

There is literally no one who loves Rutgers more than Bill Bel. Maybe all of this is just to just, he's going to, he's going to flip this for the Rutgers job. And Greg Shiano's going to get the UNC job. Sure, they'll just trade. That's what it'll be. That's what it will be. I, I, I just want to know what, what are the four, because I don't doubt Bill Belichick had 400 pages worth of thought. about UNC football.

I just want to know if UNC read them or if they were just like, who, you're taking this seriously, all right? So when he was picking up his girlfriend from prom, he, you know, in that time that he was waiting in the car, you know, he was able to collate a lot of thoughts on how college football teams should work. Yeah.

Which, I mean, I guess it's good that he, that is occupying his brain. Sure. He's going to have to go sit at a fucking table at ACC media days and Felder is going to get to go talk to him. Like,

there have always been two Bill Belichicks, right? Like, there's the football one who just shows up wearing nothing but moths. Yes.

And like kicks of VCR until it spits out football information from 1942. Yeah. Yeah. And then there's Mr.

Nantucket. And like, if there is a place in the entire country where that combination works better than UNC, I don't know, Ole Miss, maybe, but there's not in Virginia, maybe,

but, like, UNC is about as good a fit as you could possibly find in that regard. Yeah. Or maybe Yukon, but Yukon's got a coach, baby. The Yukon's already got a successful former NFL coach. That job is Occupato. You'll have to pry him out with something a whole lot stronger than 72-year-old man's hands, that's for sure.

I do kind of hope. I do kind of hope we get somebody swooping in last second. Like, let's just say Arkansas. Arkansas is not open as now. I have no reason to think it's going to come open. But I hope they're like, wait, Bill Belchick's available. Todd? No, absolutely not.

We're not going to let him get poached like that. See, I thought you were going to say the Jets, but no. We've already been down that road. I mean, let's try it again. Oklahoma State. Mike Gundy says he's coming back. Fuck you. No, you're not.

Hey, Welcome to the shutdown forecast. You are listening to the Internet's only college football podcast. I am Spencer Hall. I am joined, as always, by Ryan Ney, Jason Kirk, and Holly Anderson. Conducting the dials and knobs on the back end is Michael Cerber. This, this family is 40. for 40. That's right. We are now

we are now in an unprecedented 148 game bowl season. This was once titled 40 for 40 because there were 40 bowl games. Now there was like 9,000 up. This is what we're going to talk about. Yes. It was titled 40 for 40 as a joke because there weren't 40 bowl games yet. Like I said, 183,000 bowl games. And we're going to mention them all, including, including, the college football playoff,

which is now a thing. And I think I look forward to everybody realizing how long it's going to take. Oh, my God. It's going to take so much longer than you anticipate. Do we know if these first, we're not talking about the first round games in this episode. Do we know if those count as bowl games for like a coach's

bowl record and this or at school's bull record or whatever? Because it's a home game, but it is a postseason game. Like, where do they fall? It's a playoff game and a ball game. Right. home game. Can I tell you what?

Do you want it to count? Count it. You know what's weird about that liminal space too? And I wasn't really thinking about this before my team landed in one of them. And I understand why it would be impossible and probably ill-advised to create like a loser's bracket of like, okay, we're going to send you kids to Orlando to play the loser of the other first round game. So that you get to end the season on a bowl game.

But the, if whoever loses, for example, the Saturday 7 p.m. game it's going to just end their season at 1 a.m. in Columbus in December. And that's grim. That's really grim. Yeah. It's like I'm trying to either your season ends there

or you go to the Rose Bowl. I'm trying to imagine bigger, a bigger disparity in outcomes. Yeah, Robert Frost can't write shit about that. Oh. Two paths diverged into yellow wood and one of them leads to death. Do you know the NFL?

used to have a third place game? Huh. I did not. Is this a joke? No. No. This was, this was,

they called it like the playoff bowl. And it was like a charity benefit or whatever. But it was like, oh, we'll take the conference riders up and make them play each other. I don't think it was, I don't think they liked this. The playoff bowl.

What kind of a stupid ass league would come up with something called the playoff bowl? Can you imagine if we covered a sport dumb enough to have multiple of playoff bowls? Hey, the sports bowl is in the next episode. You know, college football looked into it. The NFL was like, nope, we retain that IP. Fuck you. We literally have had playoff bowls for a decade now. Arguably longer.

But we don't get to call him that, do we? Nope. Finally a postseason game. I am certain Kirk Cousins could win. Oh. No, he can't win either of those. We saw him against Alabama. You said it was a charity bowl.

He's just giving them away, brother. Here, you take the ball. No, you take the ball. Should we remind listeners how this works? Yes. We're really sorry about this. We created it a long time ago at EDSBS, and it won't die because y'all love it. This is a preview series in which we used to do a single podcast for every bowl game.

This has become somewhat unmanageable, although I agitate for its return every year. and we are instead going to preview every bowl game in exactly the amount of time each bowl game deserves. Today we will be starting with the games on Sunday, December 14th. I am already losing my voice. This is going great. And we are taking it through Friday, December 20th. I have a point of order before we start with that.

Do we want to fold in Army Navy game since it now overlaps with bull season because that's how far this calendar has been pushed from God's light. Now, speaking of a liminal space, there's a game that was on the verge of expecting... 11 and 1 Army! On the verge of affecting the playoff

despite happening after Selection Sunday. But I mean, I think the thing about... The thing about Army Navy is it'll be every Army Navy game, except now both the teams are good. It's the same game, whether the teams are good, bad or both. It does also kind of have

its own window between you should be able to catch if you skip the tail end of the Celebration Bowl you should be able to catch all of it on CBS. It's also at something

called Northwest Stadium which sounds really innocuous until you see it's located in Landover, Maryland and realize that's FedEx Field. Yuck. Just listen, Bama fans who are all like

Strength of Schedule this. Army and Navy are so brave that they're scheduling games completely on top of the regular season. You're not brave enough to do that. Play a second Iron Bowl. Bama, do it.

Bama stopped playing football multiple weeks ago, whereas our nation's brave, brave fighters are just can't get enough. Our troops, they can't get enough that they're, they are so hungry for football that they've turned on each other. That's right. Bama's out here crying about having to play USF in Wisconsin. Meanwhile, the military is playing itself. Also, I've seen the T-shirts, Navy, the ones that say,

when it absolutely positively has to be destroyed overnight, send the United States Navy. FedEx Field. I don't know. I kind of think that land might triumph over water in this one. Whoa. Yeah, like, fortunately the army's there too. It would be pretty sick if they ended this game by the winning team just destroying the shit out of FedEx Field. You know how the hope you'd be.

You've gotten rid of a total piece of shit. that's like the least annoying way to be a troop adjacent folk hero all right can that be our owner of the washington the owner of the washington franchise would thank you they'd be like oh god oh who finally finally insurance time baby can rip off some taxpayers um that's right can that be our army navy preview there you have it folks yeah there we go ta-da spencer where are we going next we are going next too yes beginning on december 14th and Atlanta, Georgia, at the bins, the big body bends. We've got the Celebration Bowl, the Celebration Bowl, which the unofficial

Black National College Football Championship is another name for this. And it is a really interesting matchup between, hold on, South Carolina State. That's so, Christ, dude. Oh, my God. You know how hard I don't want to fuck this up that I'm reading it off of a fucking notepad. Jackson State and South Carolina State and South Carolina State. Anyway, we're supposed to be able to don't want to fuck any of this stuff. Anyway. I've already made this podcast 15 minutes late because I forgot my fucking laptop.

We're doing great. I am not making a single mistake. We're doing great. This is the earliest anybody has the earliest. Hey, Tennessee or Connecticut, Spencer. The earliest any of us have ever cracked. It's usually me. Hey, Spencer, not to tell you you fucked up again, but I'm supposed to do the lore. first. Go ahead. Listener, I wish you could see.

Were that organized? Before teams we don't want, okay, we don't, okay, go ahead. Spencer, do you talk about

what you think is, is, which teams do you think are in this game? Whitey. Jackson State and South Carolina State and 11 and 2 Jackson State. Local Cracker Pope,

Spencer Hall. Ecumenical Cracker Council Head, Spencer Hall. Gonna kill my. Myself, live on the podcast. It's not live. Goddammit. Yeah, we aren't streaming right now.

We can, though. If you, if you want to, we could just put out a tweet or a skeet. Killing myself. I'm going to skeeat my death. It remains like delightfully quirky that this is a matchup of winners of two conferences, one of which is twice as large as the other. That was not always. the case. But the Miak is now

down to six teams. This is how we produced an 11 and 2 team versus a 9 and 2 team. Yes. Yes. The swag up to 12 teams, uh, thanks to several Miak moves. It is also the reason why South Carolina State has not played a

game since 1123. They have not played a game since November 23rd. They're very well rested. Okay. One sympathizes. I'm going to be pretty well rested by the time you get around to let me do the lore. Lour! We crave lore! Saturday, December 14th, noon on ABC, cricket celebration bowl is the full name. Yes, that's cricket wireless.

This is neither a celebration of crickets the insect nor cricket the sport. This is where you really realize that this really is just like other bowls, as in if it makes its money off tricking college students into signing up for credit cards with a free t-shirt on orientation weekend. If it has a tent on the quad when you're moving into your dorm and 10,000 one-star reviews on Google, it probably has a bowl game. Celebration Bowl is distinct because it is a bowl game we actually want to see played at the Benz. Incredible.

Night before for the second year in a row, 7 p.m., Atlanta, Band of the Year, the top two ranked bands from Division I and Division II conferences will be competing for the National HBCU Band Championship and the title of Band of the Year. This is the second year they've done it. It's a fantastic show. The halftime show for this game is also televised because ESPN. knows what it's doing at least when it comes to this particular game. This statement

does not apply to other games. And yeah, high flyers this year. Swack versus Miak, Jackson State at 11 and 2, South Carolina State at 9 and 2. But enough for me. This is also, this is also interesting because Jackson State, the best quote that I've come across in as TZ Taylor

in his first year doing a fantastic job, but describing coming to Jackson State as this. The cupboard was bare. So just going back to Colorado fans, what can you expect post Dion? Well, his successor in Jackson State was quoted as saying, the cupboard was bare and that they've been through a lot and still managed to go 11 and 2. I will say this. I think Dion was pretty upfront about that when he took the Colorado job. I don't think there was any premise of like, I'm going to build it the same way I did Jackson State.

I think he was like, I'm taking all my favorite pieces with me and they can have nothing. yeah i think he was pretty upfront about that they managed to find some pieces anyway they got a nice running back irv mulligan which fantastic college football name irv mulligan okay i was going to ask did you say herb or irv either one is good i are the rare irs we don't get a whole lot of herbs these days so it's kind of a didn't know we were still making those yeah they average about 37 points a game uh and he is a big reason why south carolina state very well rested they're nine to two because they don't have that many teams to play. That's a big advantage

when you're talking about coming into the postseason. This is the first year for Coach Berry, replacing Buddy Pew and they were still really, really good. The one player that you should look at speaking of fantastic names, quarterback, Eric Phoenix. Eric Phoenix, I keep finding names that are transparent

future replacements level quarterback names, right? like Dante Gio or Eric Phoenix in this case. He's a transfer from D2 Benedict College, and he is going to be really fun to watch. He did do the... Until he did the work. Good job.

Proud of you. Yeah. Yeah, but also watch the band. Unfortunately, Spencer, I want no actual analysis from you for our next bowl. Holly, what's next on the list? Saturday, December 19th Worst is first 9 p.m. on ESPN.

The IS4S Salute to Veterans Bowl. Now, we've been doing this for a number of years now and it has behooved us to add a new feature, which is how do I know this bowl game slash what did this bowl game used to be slash why do I remember this bull game.

This is the Camellia Bowl. It's the one in the Crampton Bowl in Montgomery. You know that song? There's a hole in the bottom of the sea. Yeah. The camp song. You know, where there's a Veterans Bowl and the Camilla Bowl and the Crampton Bowl and Montgomery.

There's a hole in the bottom of the sea. This is how we're going to get through this. In another bowl tradition, the salute to Veterans Bowl has done away with one bowl tradition, flowers, and brought in another one, slightly terrifying. government entity. I'm just going to read this because I cannot possibly make it worse. Integrated Solutions for Systems is a Huntsville

based engineering and electronics firm that does much of its business with the military and government because we don't have enough of these. Curious sidebar it is employee owned and its crest is a giant warbird like the one you see splayed out on the carpet in the Oval Office holding

a banner that reads ethics over profit. If that's a joke, it's pretty good. We're going to let you that went out on your own time. This is South Alabama versus Western Michigan, their first meeting and trivia for us, West Durham on play by play. That's fun.

Yeah. How about the ball? I have bad news about this game. Besides the fact that it's in Montgomery. And it starts at 9 p.m. Okay, I take it back. If they have kept the hoop skirt pageant that they had at the Camilleeoble and put it under a military contractor,

I think this has potential, at least in camp. No, it starts at 9 p.m. And South Alabama, who has been a, I will call them the freewheeling South Alabama Jaguars, who previously, I think the last time they entered the national consciousness, they had scored 87 points on Northwestern State and very easily could have gone for 100, I think. They have been extremely fun to watch. they're like high scoring all offense all gas no brakes installed or even optional kind of offense but running back fluff both well sorry one more time

fluff both well what's that fluff heads all the fluff heads including uh to full credit i hope it's fluff both well don't credit don't credit him they keep they have been stomping all over one one of our bits for a couple of weeks now. Don't give him credit for this. I'm sorry, he's just been a fluff hit from the start. He identified Fluff as prime college football content long before any of us did. So I will give him credit for that. But the universe has punished them for stealing our bits, Holly, by robbing Fluff both while he has injured the transfer portal.

And I have said his name two different ways. Oh, dang. I didn't do that. Yeah. And yes. And yeah, that is major Alpha White in the coaching. a slot for them. He's still a head coach, and actually South

Alabama's pretty good. On the other side, man, you know, every now and then sometimes somebody just gets a trip out of bowl season. Western Michigan is getting a trip out of bowl season. They're going to go all the way down to Montgomery, Alabama. Why? Who knows? They're six and six. They weren't that great. Their quarterback's very

old. The quarterback's been in college football since, like, 2019. Hayden Wolf. And, yeah, the only other interesting fact is that that Western Michigan's coach, he's Chalktaught. He's the only current Native American coach in FBS.

And also that USA's favored by 10 and a half, and they're probably going to beat that ass. Yeah, but to Western Michigan, this is basically the beach. This is the bowl game that is like, first of all, at 9 p.m., they're like, we are hiding from God's light. I want to be very clear. Yeah. Veterans are sleeping, man. Why are you saluted? They've worked hard all day and they're in bed. They're not going to see your salute. This is the one that tucks them in. They're like, thank you for your service. Here's a blankie.

Next bowl. Frisco bowl. Tuesday, December 17th. 9 p.m. ESPN. But don't worry, it's now the Scooters Coffee Frisco Bowl. Scooter's Coffee is a chain founded in Nebraska And the only thing that I have ever found interesting about them Is a couple years ago They were in a minor social media kerfuffle Locally in Nebraska That resulted in the company having to issue a press release

Saying to be clear, all drive-through employees are allowed to wear coats Okay All right The game, it's played at Toyota Stadium in Frisco, Texas, one of a bare few games that's ever been played in a soccer stadium, which is at least the right shape, looking at you, New York, and Boston. This stadium is home to FC Dallas, local high schools, and the FCS championship game. This is not the FCS championship game.

Some people mix that up. The most surprising fact about this game is that it has been going on since 2017, but here's a weird twist. You remember this game from earlier and you don't know it. This used to both be the Miami Beach Bowl. and be played in Miami Beach. And you remember that game because there was a great big fight

in the first one between Memphis and BYU, natural predators of one another. It was played for three years in Marlins Park. And in April 2017, the Miami Beach Bowl was sold to ESPN and relocated. I'm using their language, relocated to Frisco, Texas,

where it would be like a couch. Which it brings me to, what I guess is a pretty obvious question stretching the notion of what is a game. Do games have souls? No. I don't answer that question. I'm going to go yes because at any point

this game might revert to true Miami Beach Bowl form because Memphis is here. And what else does what else? Yeah, that's right. Betty's like, who, who run it. That's right. that's what she's saying

and she'd have a point she'd have a point by the way because Memphis won 10 games and their treat is to go to Frisco Texas I might be mad I might be wanting to beat some ass too

they're 10 and 2 coming into this game they've had a really good season being the allegations yet again that Ryan Silverfield is on anything but the coolest seat his cheeks are icy he is so comfy cozy cold

sitting on that very comfortable, well-secured seat. Need a while. Who are they playing? They're playing somebody whose seat was so hot they didn't make it to the bowl game. Neil Broward is fired as head coach of the West Virginia Mountaineers. If you were just finding out about this, you have joined the crew of people who increasingly find out about important global events.

We have some things to talk about the regime of Syria. As of this time, Bill Belichick is not interested in the West Virginia job. repeat, not interested in the West Virginia job. Yeah, but if you want a 400-page manifesto about how West Virginia can return to greatness in college football, I know. I'm reaching out to Eric Mangini to see if he is interested at the West Virginia job. The penguin goes mining for talent in Morgan Town. That's right.

Yeah, this is a 6 and 6th West Virginia team on the other side. Memphis is going to be like the farewell party for Seth Hennigan who owns like every American conference and Memphis passing record possible. He's the winning as quarterback in the history of the Memphis program. Didn't get a championship

this year to top that off and probably wants to go out throwing as many passes as humanly possible. They're probably going to let him and West Virginia will probably let him because this West Virginia team just like never happened like they just never figured out what they were really

good at at all. They can run the ball pretty well. That's about it. Garrett Green at quarterback is an adventure. And man, do I mean that in the most literal sense of the word? Not entirely complimentary. Next bowl!

Turn the page. The Boca Raton Bowl. Wednesday, December 18th, 5.30 p.m. on ESPN at FAU Stadium in Boca Raton. Western Kentucky versus James Madison combining America's

two greatest nightmares, the big red mascot and Florida Atlantic's private prison industry. The trophy is named after Howard Schnellenberger. It is not shaped like him. Boo.

From 2017 to 2019, Cherubundi tart cherry juice sponsored this game, which gave rise to the Charita Bundy Bowl. This bowl currently floating without a sponsor, and that makes it extra boring.

This is an annual rant that has never improved, so we're going to continue delivering it. The ESPN-owned games get homogenized to a degree that makes it really hard to make fun out of them. They all get the same website, which means you don't get wacky forms of merchandise. You don't get as many weird events popping up in the community prior to the game. No color, no flavor. Perfect for Boca, actually. Sad examples surrounding this game, there is a Chamber of Commerce Breakfast leading up to the game and each team is allotted

two hours on the beach not together. The shop page at this time does not work on the Boca Raton Bowl website so we can't even tell you whether or not the plastic lining these cups has been declared a known carcinogen.

Over to you boys. Let me tell you, JMU has an incredible defense. They're really fun. to watch. They have actual names you should keep track of like quarterback Terrence Spence

who's got five interceptions and is a beast in coverage. They have they got a guy with 11 and a half sacks, defensive lineman Eric O'Neill who they should be able to do serious damage against Western Kentucky especially because Caden Velkamp is also himself. An adventure,

an unfolding possibility of events. A spectrum of potential outcomes at quarterback. It's not always what you want at quarterback, but hey, that's what you got. Both these teams have some weird losses, man. That's what I have to say. To end up in the Boca Raton Bowl, you have to have some weird L's on the record, like WKU having a 12-7 loss to La Tech, which feels real weird, but not as weird as the fact that this JMU team with this really great defense and an incredible turnover margin

is somehow 8 and 4 and ending up in the Boca Raton Bowl. One note, one ironic note I would point out, Boca Raton, famously the home to those who dine early and go to bed early. This game's at 5.30. So very simple, very simple order of operations. Dinner, dinner at, what's an old person restaurant name? Beefo Brady's. Yes. Dinner at Beefo Brady's.

But we'll get to that. Old people that like to party. That's right. Did you guys know that Bifo Brady's was found? by an immigrant from Pennsylvania, I mean an immigrant to Florida from Pennsylvania, who founded this restaurant because he wanted the concept of a family-friendly Irish pub by which he meant an Irish pub that didn't serve liquor

because he thought that would make it friendly. Sure. Yep. Showing a misunderstanding of both beer and Irish people. And people, yeah. Yeah, I used to go there on my lunch break to get drunk and then go back to work. That's an interesting turn of events. But you could get two hot dogs for $1.50.

We'll come back to the Beefo Brady's franchise in a couple of previews. Yeah. Jim, you favored by 7.5 points in that one, by the way. Next ball. It's the L.A. I'm going to make this quick. Wednesday, December 18th, 2024. 9 p.m. ESPN.

It's the L.A. Bowl. which is the Art of Sport L.A. bowl, which is, yes, the Art of Sport L.A. bowl hosted by Gronk. Featuring Cal versus UNLV, two of our fan favorites. My favorite thing about this bowl

is that at the very top of this Wikipedia page, it says, not to be confused with the Hollywood Bowl. Not a problem. Thank you for putting up these guardrails. This is not a known issue. This game is at SoFi in Englewood, all I have to say about that is both these teams are at least to

use to not being able to park anywhere their destination and paying $80 for the privilege. There is a gronk 101 section of the website. I have not looked at it. Let's talk about the football. No, we're not going to do that. Spencer, no, no. Spectacular. Spencer, can I get some podcast business please? Oh, podcast business. It's a business. Times. Pocket business What's a business Time

Packet's business 44, 40 business All kinds of business With some pockets out there No problem I'm sure Spencer You had a bunch of good football content

For this bowl But unfortunately I have hijacked Your knowledge So that we can Go out of order And play More or less

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of fulfilling our contract But before that Jason You are the contestant on this week's, more or less. The focus is Cal, one of the participants in this game. This is going to be Cal's 26th bowl game of all time. I'm going to give you six schools. We're going to go one by one,

and you're going to tell me if they have been to more bowls or less bowls than Cal's 26. Are you prepared? More. Arizona the Arizona wildcats have they been to more or less than 26 bowls Cal was really good before there were a lot of bowls Arizona has only been really good a few times I think it's less it is less Arizona not going to a bowl game this year

22 bowls in total Jason Illinois more or less than 26 bowl games they used to go to a lot of them but not so much anymore put me down for maybe not for less it's also less 20 I think that one being largely impacted by the Big Ten's

long belief that only one team from the conference should go to a bowl game and frequently that team was not Illinois Kentucky the Kentucky Wildcats Jason Kirk more or less than 26 bowl games all time similar story to Illinois I've often said this Kentucky is the Illinois

of the SEC. That's really not far off. Let's go less. It is indeed less. Your Less Street continues. 23 bowl games for the Kentucky Wildcats. So does Kentucky's. The Baylor Bears.

Have they been to more or less than 26 bowl games? They were good for like eight minutes total, so less. This time it's more. Wow. Baylor has been to 28 bowl games all time. I think this is the opposite. of the Big Ten problem where for a while the Southwest Conference and the Big 12

were like, please, as many bowls as possible, we'll send you anything. The Stanford Cardinal, Jason, more or less than 26 bowl games all time. Boy, they were really terrible for a long time. But when they're good, they're really good. Let's go less.

I'm confirming this because I want to make, I take these things so seriously. It's actually more. 29 bowl games. for the Stanford Cardinal, the hated rival of the cow bears. And lastly, Minnesota, have the Golden Gophers been to more or less that the 26 bowl games Cal will be in once they play this game?

So I was going to commit to saying less to all of them after, you know, after the first couple. But this one is, this is making me question that because they're rarely terrible. they have been really good mostly like 100 years ago which doesn't really count much here let's stick to it let's go less you are indeed correct

Minnesota less bowl games than count this is about to be their 24th that has been more or less our game brought to you by prize picks Spencer Hall what the hell is a prize pick anyway I was about to tell you a prize pick is when you select more or less and then take away your winnings.

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No, we're not. But if Tennessee fans were to be lacking in warm gear, warm, cuddly clothing, what would you recommend they do to rectify that situation? Ryan, I would recommend several of the squishiest available hoodies, perhaps under a nice water-resistant coaching jacket from home field apparel. That was a small subdued rocky top in anticipation of the festivities to come. That's right. even if you're a fan of a team not in the college football playoff of which there are some

can't relate you know maybe i don't know Alabama turns out is not in the playoff it might not have heard much about that florida is definitely not in the playoff south carolina is not in the playoff which oh that's mean no let's not i know i'm not happy about but my point but my point is home field apparel is the college football playoff for all there is no selection committee that says who's in and who's out there is merely the multitude of schools that are in the everlasting playoff that is buying apparel on homefield apparel.com and using offer code fullcast for 20% of your first order, you can't possibly lose because it's

not a football game and that's not how buying clothes works, pretty much. Homefield apparel. That is how buying clothes works. Pretty much. Also, one last reminder to get your tickets to the Tuscaloosa. Get up three. It's a week from today, if you're listening to this the day it comes out. Do you want to see Brittany Howard? Do you want to see Jameson Hubbard and Mikey Cooley and other exceptional talents at this charity concert supporting our fine friends at Druid City Brewing? Of course, you do, and you go to Tuscaloosa getup.com.

We have linked to it, of course, on Priyodairboats, our fine website where all news and events, happen where you can buy tickets to the event you can buy shirts you can make a donation if you can't make it to this and you just want to support a wonderful local business this event is indeed as holly said on december 18th at seven o'clock in the evening get your tickets now or throw our friends at druid city a donation and then maybe one day spencer will pay you back his extensive beer debt at Druid City Brewing. Probably not. Probably not. But possibility, isn't

this the season of maybe? Isn't that what Christmas is all about? And then January will be the season of disappointment. So, all right. Next bowl? No, I have one more thing to say. One more thing to say as a tag on the Art of Sport L.A.

Oh, boy. Here we go. That was a while ago. No, go ahead. Go ahead. No, no. You just got to know. One, UNLV, still up. Congratulations. You won 10 games. That's awesome. You're probably going to win 11 because you're playing Cal. And Cal is the most replacement level football team available. Like respect for the LA ball to being like, I'm going to go to Aldi and I want football in a can. What do you get? Six and Six. What do they do? I don't know. It's football. I'm not going to endorse this particular view of Cal. I find that you want to do it, but I'm not going to say the shutdown forecast is going to as a group, as a unanimous group called Cal replacement level football. We have established more or less that they are usually more.

That's right. That's right. Yeah. Six and six. But think of how those six and six happen. That's what you're missing out here. After all this team did for us, entertainment-wise, this season. Cal fans, please meme Spencer personally and not us. We try to do it without AI for once.

Listen, this is college football's jobber, okay? They get introduced. They put the other wrestler. are over and then they're on to the next law. Just another ESPN talent shitting on the ACC for no reason. On the underdog University of California

at Berkeley. First of all, this is no way to talk about the Dolph Ziegler of college football, sir. We need this program. I'm calling them the Dolph Ziegler of college football. We need them. That's what they're here to do. Clearly has to talk up UNLV

because they served as the coaching cradle for Purdue, one of the, more important conferences to this ESPN Big Wake over here. Do you know how far around the block you have to go to important national power at Purdue? You did it, Ryan. Now, you want to talk about a jobber. You want to talk about a jobber. You go work at Purdue so you can puff up Ohio State's record so they can get to 11 and 1 and then become depressed.

Yeah. They're so scary. They can do math. Purdue. Next bowl. Turn the page. Oh, thank God. Thursday, December 19th, 2024, ESPN2.

7 p.m., a civilized hour for New Orleans, Louisiana, because in prior years, this game usually had one of two problems. It was either the New Orleans Bowl played at 11 a.m. local, which is an issue, or it was played at 9 p.m. local, which is an issue of a different kind. ESPN2, the R&L Carriers New Orleans Bowl. Oh, same sponsor year in, year out. Their employees do not care about this bowl.

Don't bother them. I get cartoonishly excited when I see an R&L carrier's person in uniform. And I have on one occasion bounced up to them and been like, oh, like the ball game and gotten a flat stare. And that was frankly more than I deserved. Listen, we cling to pillars of stability. here and God help us, the New Orleans Bowl is one of them this year featuring Georgia Southern versus Sam Houston. Spencer, tell us about it. It'd be really cool to watch Sam Houston's

outstanding defense in this game, but they're all in the transfer portal. All, what do you mean? It says Sam Houston. It says Sam Houston on the label, the 17, since December 4th, 17 players, including several starters of this defense, have entered the transfer portal. So you're getting a San Houston State team in this game. This is Dan Houston. Yeah, I encourage all of the Bearcats who are attending this. New Orleans

has a variety of lovely restaurants, bars, and other entertainments. Enjoy them all. Don't really worry about the game because like a quarter of the team is no longer there. So congratulations to Georgia Southern is what I'm saying because I don't

know if Sam Houston State even knows what they're putting out there yet. Folks, are you feeling sad? Are you feeling a little melancholy? It might be the Cure Bowl. Friday, December 20th, 2024, noon, ESPN, Ohio versus Jacksonville State. It is the, this is the creepiest possible name for something that doesn't actually do what it says it does. This is the staff DNA Cure Bowl.

this is not a place this is Vox executives listening don't get excited this is not a place where you can take your employees blood and lay them off in order to how much they might eventually cost you in terms of health insurance this is allegedly a health industry employment website clones can't be union members that's in the contract onward it was played in Orlando City's soccer stadium then at Camping World Stadium then at UCF, now it's here again after some renovations. The stadium is boasting six extra inches of legroom in the lower bowl. Am I right? This is the bowl that we make the least fun of because it does in fact donate to BCRF,

which is the only shutdown full cast endorsed breast cancer research concern. The staff DNA cure bowl is a platform that helps raise funds for individual cancer researchers like Dr. Annette Khaled, who leads a team at UCF College of Medicine. The Orlando Sports Foundation is a 501c3 that dedicates itself to raising funding for organizations working to cure cancer. BCRF is a partner org. They are, again, one of those organizations that we love because, like New American Pathways, the vast majority of the money you give to them goes directly to the people in

this case, doing the research, making it happen. So we try and avoid making fun of this team when we can. Just find the fact that they name themselves something like staff DNA. So staff DNA, it's a medical staffing company? It is a health industry employment website, is my understanding. A transfer portal. Whoa. Yep.

speak of employment, what's the status of the two coaches in this game? Great question, Ryan. Undetermined and gone. Yeah. Who? Where? It's Orlando. We got to use Disney voices.

Yeah, we've got, all right. So let me tell you, Rich Rodriguez, current coach at Jacksonville State. Who knows where he's going to be? He might be headed back to West Virginia. He might not. who can say he's been really good and won nine games three years in a row at Jacksonville State

which is very exciting because they like football and they're brand new at this I can't do that it's going to kill me and Ohio's coach has already left to take the head job at Charlotte replacing Biff Pogi and putting on the sleeveless shirt

of destiny Is this even a lateral move Ohio to Charlotte? I believe it's actually an improvement based on what I have read that he will get paid at Charlotte as opposed to getting paid at Ohio. I was thinking in terms of football. Okay, fair point. Leaving the Mac is an improvement. Okay, there's that.

Wherever you're going, period. Charlotte has just seemed to be like all kinds of fucked up just as an enterprise, but best of luck to him. I think you're probably right, but I think there is, it is in some way telling that you win the Mac and your prize is the Charlotte job. Like, it sort of tells you what the state of the Mac is. right i mean i guess it's like there's a theoretical upside at charlotte like no one has ever um gone decades without accomplishing anything there before panthers tickets sure but like charlotte you could talk yourself into like oh well nobody's tried this or that yet nobody's unlocked this yet it's in a town you know like you you you at least have like uh there's at least a made-up upside

you know and in almost every mac destination it's like well we know what it's is because it's been that for a hundred years um yeah the mac uh the situation put very scientifically is bad it's very bad for job retention it's very bad in terms of potential outs so yeah charlotte is the mac is very good for job retention because these guys don't get jobs elsewhere yeah if you get the chance to go you go is what we're saying um nonetheless i will say we have already heaped respect on the actual charitable purpose of this goal game. Let's continue to praise this game because I think this is a

banger. This is a Mac Championship 10 and 3 Ohio team with Parker Navarro. If you doubt whether you should pay attention to Parker Navarro as a 2000 passing 1,000 yard rushing quarterback

like an extremely college football, last college football player. He's currently like 17 yards shy of 1,000 yards rushing, but he's going to get it. If you doubt whether you should pay attention to him. Timothy Chalemays already shouted him out. So like the chosen one, Lisan al-Gib himself has deemed him worthy of praise.

You should pay attention as well. And then on the other side, man, Jack State just beat ass. And their conference championship game, Tyler Huff is the thousand-yard rusher in addition to being a skilled passer. And then you have Trey Stewart, who is a beast over 1,600 yards rushing standard rich rod shit. and that they are just going to run the living daylights out of the ball and throw a wide open guys downfield. This is a good game. Like, this is a good game.

I was a favorite by two. But, like, yeah, watch this. This is good shit. This is also ideally placed, I would say, because this is like, if you are working on the Friday before Christmas week, no, you're not. You're turning this on and just watching it. You're not watching. You're not working.

You're watching this instead. You'll be fine. Yeah. Trey Stewart transferred to Jacksonville State all the way from Linesstone University to play this game. Honor that. Ryan, I think that was an argument for people to closely study and pay attention to everything that happens in all work-hour bowl games on this day. That's right.

That's right. To think a lot about what these results mean and what they say about these programs. And really embrace them as the maximal destiny of a team. To just really think of these are the teams. that are playing during the least important day on the entire time. And they're not the playoff game. There is a playoff game today. These are the ultimate meaningless appetizers.

Sure. Yeah, these are the saddest airport meals of games possible. Shrimp, canapes, baby. This is just the tide you over shit until the meal you pay attention to. Well, this probably isn't a trap. So next game. Speaking of sadness. airports, insignificance,

shrimp, and shit football. It is the Gasparia Bowl. It is not pronounced like that. Friday, December 20th, 2024. Voices already going. This is great. 3.30 p.m. ESPM, the Union Home Mortgage,

Gasparilable, Tulane versus Florida. In the words of the website's giant letters that greet you, Ahoy, Tampa. I'm out on this game. I'm on their website right now, and there's no auto play club music. I am also out on this game for this exact reason.

There is no song. I will stay long enough to identify this game in your brains. This is the one that used to be the BFO Brady's Bowl. It has a unbeaten streak. Nobody else has even come close of shady bowl sponsors. This is the one that began life. We basically lived our entire, we have lived our entire bowling lives and our entire blogging lives chronicling the

what the hell is that sponsors of this bowl game. It did begin life as the Magic Jack St. Peter's Bowl, which was a device that scammed old people into thinking you needed to pay a lot for internet. It then became the Bitho Brady's Bowl. Then the

Bitcoin St. Petersburg Bowl followed by our favorite era, the bad boy mowers bowl. Even the BFO Brady's tie in, sadly, has gone the way of the dodo, the website and menu for Beefo Brady's have been stripped of everything that once made them fun, quirky, or even recognizably Irish. There is no more signature Irish lime

made. Here are the most interesting sounding dishes I could find on the entire menu. They put macaroni and cheese on a burger. No way. How? How do they keep doing this? You can get 20 wings, but it says larger quantities available at the bottom. That's it? They list the entire freestyle Coke menu, which I think has to be really helpful for the target demographic intended in this restaurant. You're looking at the menu and I'm not.

Have they put every freestyle Coke menu option? It's like decision freestyle. But is it in there? Is it in there because it's like, oh my God, the professors said this has to be two full pages. I just need to fill some space. Ryan, speaking of filling some space, the only thing I could find

that was remotely distinct was something called the traditional Tampa Cuban hot and pressed. Jesus Christ. Speaking of hot and pressed, let's not talk about Florida football. Tulane, I'm real sorry about this.

Listen, listen. Florida football is the reason why Ole Miss isn't in the playoff, okay? Florida football, and this is the reward they get. Florida football, No, I'm not saying they deserve anything more than that necessarily, but Ole Miss isn't in the playoff, and LSU is not making some garbage-ass argument for why they deserve to be in the

playoff because of Florida, okay? And for that, we stuck them in the fucking Gasparilla Bowl. That's fine. That's fine. You know what? Because there was a chance they were going to play Michigan again in a bowl game, and I don't need that. I do not need that one single bit. I'm fine if Florida loses to John Summoral in Tulane.

I can live with that. I don't need to lose to Michigan. That shit sucks. Can we all take a moment and just make the noise that occurred to us, as Ryan said, I don't want to play Michigan? I'm feeling kind of a... What about you? You know, also, you get the reward of going to the crown jewel of Florida's tiara of horrifyingly dystopia in mid-range cities that will be underwater.

Which no longer has an auto-playing theme song of mysterious origin on its front page. What are you going to go do? We're going to pursue all of the, we're going to pursue all of the activities that have made Tampa great. Paid parking, unlimited wings, drinking exactly three too many beers. What is the use case for? I root for Tulane and I live in New Orleans and I'm going to go to Tampa. Yeah, seriously.

None. None. Especially because, especially because they're starting quarterback, Dary and Mentsa has entered the transfer portal. Okay. I blame Billy Napier, personally. That's what happened there. Just Dary Metsa might transfer to Florida. Who knows?

He might be there. It might be on the other side. Good way to have it. Yeah. What if you could skip work? Would you skip work if it meant you had to go to the Gasparilla Bowl? Yeah. Sure.

Can we probably last year's Gasperillabell? The Gasparallible song instead? Did we still have that? I think what you should know about the Gasparallible is that its previous location was destroyed by a storm. And I think that was God's way of saying, we don't need this Volgate anymore. Yeah, this was the bowl that used to be famed for being lit like it was played in an overturned Tupperware bowl. Yes. Yes.

Have you ever recently annihilated by the hand of God? Have you ever seen football at a Costco? No? Would you like to? Also, no. but now it's just fucking pirate stadium That's it Justin the win baby

Is Jose Gaspar the pirate in question No he's not Tampa History can be whatever you want it to be That's right As long as we are playing Some quality late 90s to early 2000s Dance music

While it all happens Which apparently we're not On the Gasparallible website We can't have anything God fuck you Gasparallible Thank you.