Shutdown Fullcast - 40 for 40: The 2016 Sun Bowl

Episode Date: December 29, 2016

Number 29 of 40 bowl previews, in which we may not discuss the Sun Bowl or the teams playing in it whatsoever! In truth, we spend almost no time talking about the teams in this game. We spend a lot of time talking about the game itself and its reign as America's Most Hungover Bowl. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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download the free app today and make the most of your summer with all trails. Welcome to the Sun Bull podcast, our 40 for 40. We're going to preview this bowl game at as much time as it takes. Joining me, as always, Holly, Jason, Ryan, in the shutdown forecast group. We are going to discuss the game, most known for massive hangovers. That's right. I thought you could say handjobs.

No, no, no. I like massive as an adjective. Well, I was thinking about the monumental rock upon which the handjobs take place. Can you imagine two fan bases less suited to enjoying all of the adventures of Handjob Hill than Stanford and North Carolina fans? No, I actually can imagine, too, that they're perfect at that. How about Syracuse? Because they don't even go outside. No, I think Syracuse, probably, if they don't go outside, there's some depravity going on there, right?

That's true. They're finally free. Yeah, they have to stay inside all winter. yeah plus you gotta get through the sweat pants layers multiple layers probably Texas because if you look at their

crowds they don't tend to sit long enough for that no yeah they do like respectful distance from the action on the field though it's true they might like the altitude

although watching the game from outside the stadium would imply to armlookers that they are poor the sunbolt plus the Stanford Tree can't even give a hand job. Man, what a sad sexual existence the Stanford Tree has. Are you sure?

It depends. It depends on the iteration. It depends on the iteration. You're right. Have you ever read the interview with the girl who played the tree who was arrested as the tree? And then she gave this extremely candid interview about the joys and the sorrows of being the tree

immediately after being arrested where they said, yeah, you can't be the tree anymore. And she's like, the most California answer, she's like, well, that was a good ride. A lot of good times. A tour in ACL. That was the order of things. Okay, this puts something else in my mind that I've never wondered before, but now I am wondering.

When Sebastian the Ibis was arrested, was that a girl? No, that was a 30, I want to say that was a 38-year-old man. Okay, that's so much. That's so much. Yeah, the guy, the guy who went super hard as Sebastian and tried to, like, put out, who tried to, like, set the little sooner. Yeah, the one who got arrested on the field, that one. Yeah, the guy who tried to put out the, he actually tried to put out the seminal torch, right?

The spear that they throw at midfield. He tried to put that out with a fire extinguisher and was arrested. I'm pretty sure that guy was way over 30. The Ohio Bobcat who attacked Brutus, he was a guy. That was a guy. What about the Cincinnati Snowball fight? I think that was a guy as well. Yeah.

Orange who got bowled over by Darwin Cook and that West Virginia Clemson game was a lady. And he apologized only when he, you found out it was a girl. Yeah. Listen, man, she played through it, though. Oh, she was a stamp. Yeah, she was an absolute pro about that.

I think I recall she went and, like, mimed throwing up into a trash can after that. Like, really playing up the pain. Stunner. And then gave a thumbs up. It's like she puked in the trash can and went, yep, we're good. Man, she should get a job at Disney automatically for that. Yeah. The Sun Bowl, if the Rose Bowl is the granddaddy of the Mall,

the Sun Bowl is the sketchy great-uncle who probably owes one of the IRS. He's not invited to Thanksgiving anymore. No, definitely not. This is a game with a long history of brutal performances, high wins, and hangovers. Massive, massive hangovers. And no, I'm not just basing that on the 2007 Sun Bowl, where you watch South Florida somehow score 21 points,

despite being the most obviously poisoned group of men on the planet. Like Matt Grothy, man, I need to talk to you sometime, Matt Grothy, about that game because you're a hero for going out there in the shape you were in. It's amazing. This is a game where there is lore about coaches relaxing a bit. I will tell you personally, I have a story about a famous running back

who drank with boosters until about five in the morning. prior to one sun bowl and was discovered by his quarterback who said what are you doing and the boosters are like it's cool he's with us do you know what proves that the sun bowl is the most hungover bowl um kyle orton was the MVP in 2002 oh my god that's so good it's just it's just fucking perfect it's the game that in 2008 was A game so bad, John Boyes wants to write about it. A game so awful that even those who won the game sort of regretted playing it. That's right. Oregon State 3, Pittsburgh, Zero. I'm sorry, I want to back up one more time.

Kyle Orton started this game three times in his college career. This is absolutely the most hungover bowl game. Inspector Orton. Border agent Kyle Orton Can I add a Kyle Orton fact that many people do not know Because it brings me joy, especially when imagining hangovers Do you know Kyle Orton played like varsity tennis? No

He's like a Lost Tenenbaum Lost Tenenbaum of the planes Oh my God, that's amazing Let me give you another team if I just had to pick most hungover team in history. If I go back, Nick Sabah didn't always have complete robotic

overlord control of his program. No, no, no. Michigan State lost 38-0 to Stanford 1996. I'm guaranteeing if you see zero points on the board there. Oh, someone went south of the border that night. Of course, we can't forget. I mean, we mentioned this team

about once a month or so, but 2012 USC. I feel like they reset the bar in that regard. For another year that we still can't tell this story. Yes, it's still on ice. We still can't tell the story. And this game was played in, was it snow last year between Wazoo and Miami?

Yeah, last year was Miami in the snow. It wasn't last year snow game, but it was a very recent snow game in which if you, it was, no, it was the year Notre Dame was there, and you watched, there were in the pregame as they, you know, the camera panned across the field. You saw assistance turning, like, Gatorade tables sideways and pushing them across the field manually to clear the snow.

But if you paused it at just the right moment in one corner, you can see some poor dude in a Notre Dame jacket with a rake, like trying to rake snow. Trying to rake snow. This might be my favorite bowl game, and it has nothing to do with the game. And somewhere Kyle Orton's like, yeah, I sold him that, idiot. It's such a rich human tapestry.

Man, this might be Brian Kelly's biggest victory as a head coach at Notre Dame. But remember, Christian McCaffrey is selfish for not playing in this game. This game that Kyle Orton started three times. Yeah, this game where Georgia Tech beat USC 217 on year. in one of the most dysfunctional performances in recent history. Earn Lungquist is selfish for not calling this game. Yeah, this is an amazing, amazing game that you should let us tell you about. Because we'll watch it.

You don't have to watch it. We'll watch it because given these two teams. The two shine, like the shining tent holes that we remember, you know, the USC games, the three nothing game over and you know the snow game which I think was what was 2010 oh it was the Notre Dame Miami rematch in like 2010 that rivalry got revived in El Paso but that overshadows all the other weird years like just the vaguely unsettling something's awry in the universe years that this game ended in there was the year the 2006 year where it was Oregon State 39 Missouri 38 yeah there was

the 04 game where it was Arizona State 24, Purdue 23? This is the langleers of football games. It goes deeper. The setting. It looks like the moon. That's not an exaggeration. This is a football stadium built on the moon.

It has the setting. The sponsor, it's always been weird. It's on CBS for some reason, right? Like CBS just, I don't know, sure. Pick up a Sun Bowl. We bought it with like, it was like the package game that came along with like eight other things right like weird we get the masters and they threw in the sun bowl

it was odd it's the biggest bowl that's not part of like esPN's branded bowl mania thing i think because everyone forgot it was there and it's always like danny cannell's like i'm picking all 36 balls it's like they're they're all 36 okay fine 36 they're 36 the sunball doesn't exist another fact that's just mind blowing about this game which team has been in at the most times Texas Tech they've been in it nine times their record they're one and eight what oh my god you're not even making that up no the hour bowl so this is the bowl game that they keep going to and yet keep getting their head kicked in right like I'll go back to this buffet I hate it do you know the only team that Texas Tech has beaten in this game who Pacific the school that

doesn't have college football anymore god i mean a lot okay so a lot of these are old but let's run through them um oh wait hang on my favorite my favorite one can i can i do that one first please do zero zero tie between arizona state and catholic in 1940 that's a good one um texas tech this is what you've done in this bowl you lost to west virginia seven six you lost to Tulsa, 60. You lost to Miami, Ohio, 1312. You lost to Wyoming, 2114. You lost to Georgia 70, Georgia Tech, 179. And most recently, or not, sorry, not most recently, almost there. You lost the UNC 3228. And yes, most recently, in 1993, you lost to Oklahoma, 41 to 10. and this year you're not in a bowl at all

so in a way your situation has improved there's no way that'll happen this year extension I also want to mention one more thing about the Sun Bowl we're going fucking long on the Sun Bowl are you going to talk about the Lafayette thing oh interesting one

no what did you have a Lafayette thing on it oh I mean this is this I stole this straight from Wikipedia but yeah there's a the Sun Bowl has a history controversy in 1949 the Sun Bowl

invited the Lafayette leopards to play under one condition that their African American player David Scholl would not play and Lafayette said

fuck off we're not coming and do you know who replaced them? Someone from the SEC close West Virginia go ears yeah yeah this is and if you're going to watch

this game. I don't even know if it matters. I mean, Stanford somehow won nine games this year. I ended up being good when everyone thought they were absolute ass to start the year. Wait a goddamn second. I went to this Wikipedia page. Rianna played the Sun Bowl show one time? What?

Rianna played a Sun Bowl halftime show. Oh, this had to be when she was having money problems. Like, that had to be when her accountant stole all our money. They're like, yeah, you got to go to El Paso. She's like, it's a check.