Shutdown Fullcast - 40 for 40: The 2018 Military though Gator Bowls

Episode Date: December 27, 2018

Fun fact! We recorded this right before the playoff semifinal disaster, so you can start to see things unraveling. Bowls covered on this episode include: 7:13 - THE MILITARY BOWL 22:18 - THE SUN BOWL 27:55 - THE REDBOX BOWL 35:19 - THE LIBERTY BOWL 44:00 - THE HOLIDAY BOWL 48:55 - THE GATOR BOWL Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the shutdown full cast. We are plowing through the final stretch of the 40 for 40 bowl previews for 2018, 2019. Because, you know, we catch the turn in bowl season. That's right. College football takes you from one turn in this mortal coil to another. We are, this is the river sticks. And you know who gets you across it? The Oregon duck.

That's right, the duck. You know, the afterlife would be fine. Do you have to give him coins? Yeah, but he has no idea what to do with it. No, you throw him a tiny piece of bread from a loaf of bread. Oh, okay. Yeah. I don't know the ferryman's name was Puddles.

That would be the best if an Oregon fan got there, and they were like, say the ferryman's name. And they were like, it's the duck. Somebody else was like, that's Puddles, bitch. Don't ever get in that discussion with Oregon fans. No, it's great. Do it all the time. No.

What is the puddle? What is the fairy man who are you across? In fact, a large puddle. That's right. That's right. That's right. No, no, it's the duck. It's also, it's mostly confusing because like nothing Oregon's mascot does suggest like, oh, you should take this like, hey, be buttoned up.

Take this seriously. I'm just, I'm trying to imagine myself in this. Okay. Yeah. You guys try to imagine yourself in a scenario where. you were furious that people were calling your alligator, Albert, instead of the Gator. Like, try to imagine summoning a lot of emotional energy one way or the other for that. His name is deposed Governor Gator.

That's disgraced Attorney General Gator. Resigned to disgrace Agriculture Commissioner Gator. I'm sorry, did your state that you went to university to and, maybe spent, you know, some of your adolescence in and really, you know, it was like a formative experience for you. Did they have an agriculture commissioner named Charles Bronson? I don't think so. If you're not from Florida, you didn't have that.

Speaking of homophobic country hams, does Tennessee have an offensive coordinator yet? Not yet. Cool. Not yet. I saw an extremely opaque update on that today, which was lots of people making, like, Oh, you know, overtures to the job, but I don't have any real information. It was a fine piece of Twitter journalism. Really should just been like, I don't know.

Don't worry, Tennessee. You're going to nail this coaching search thing one day. One day you'll get it right. To see there, imagine, like, I'm trying to imagine a place in my life where I would get worked up because people wanted to call the dog Smokey and not, like, the hound. The blue-tick hound. My dog's name Smokey. What if you call Bruce Buckeye, the nut?

oh we should absolutely do that oh yeah we have to do that i mean we ever done nut if you buck jesus it's an entire song about the joys of bush light and being belligerently dull and masturbation yeah i was singing nut as a verb there oh no no thank you yeah well i would prefer not to i climaxed and then i got the hard to fight actually the best the best the reverse of this to go to Texas and say, ah, I love the cow. Hey,

he's got a name. Oh, man, we got to try this. You'd have Texas fans like, uh-oh, it's a boy cow. It's God may bevo, not shevo.

Like the protest t-shirts, B-Vo is a he-vo. He's got Huevos. Here in Texas, we say, Merry Christmas, and Hevo. So put that on your TiVo.

You should go to A&Ham and call it the dog. You'd get shot. I didn't say that. No, no, call it the mutt. When your next of kin is suing for who to blame the death on, that was Spencer who said that, not me. Hey, cool, knock off Lassie. Yeah, okay, I was joking about getting shot. Now I'm not.

It wasn't me who said it It's fine Are we gonna do any of the bowl games Yeah, I'm just thinking about God made Adam and Hevo Not Adam and Chevo Because who did Who did God create on the second day For to be man's most perfect companion

That's right a cow Out of a beef, out of a beef rib Oh my God So many things make sense now God started with barbecue and the serpent came along tempting them with pork and like no no no and like God himself

the brisket must what rest and on the seventh day they rested because anyway we won't be talking about Texas today because we're going to be talking about Volta here in Texas we don't associate with the tree of knowledge listen Kane doesn't play able all right it's not a rivalry

this would be I'm trying to get to a BYU you joke and I can't take some hell forever just steer us back to true north place Michigan Michigan State the first bowl game Yeah who's a little brother now huh Able

That's targeting You saw it that. Incidents in the Bible of targeting. It could be like David,

listen man, David, great college quarterback. Not much height. Don't see him making it in the NFL. You know how I know

the murdered one was a longhorn? Because he's a vegan. Damn. Isaac wants to commit to Oklahoma. Fuck that. Hey, coach.

Coach, listen, you got to take a recruit up to the top of that mountain. And you don't want to know what you got to do with. That's a really deep joke for like the 12 of you are going to get that. This has gone so wrong. It's a joke entirely for Janko. So fast.

Jesus had a three-day dead period. But then, right back out there recruiting. It closed strong, didn't he? He did. See, came right back out of it. First thing Jesus said after Easter Sunday and that damn crucifixion cost me. three days of recruiting. Salem's wife was the original

What a Burger location. Well, you know it. Wait, no, no, I thought that was a Zaxby's franchise of a salt. No, that's... Our first bowl game that we have to discuss is the military bowl.

Which does not involve any Texas teams. Great job us. Yeah, no, this is... Kind of Jade Helm. Can't be too careful. That's true. Come on. I will know. never stop making a jade helen jokes on this show and i don't really know why either virginia tech versus cincinnati a matchup demanded by no one no one no one's ever no one's ever thought these

two teams should play or even interact okay i want to pop quiz because it took me a second to think of this i'm going to give you two seconds can you name cincinnati's head coach luke fickle all right jason jason mostly mostly because mostly because uh he i like in all seriousness done a great job there. Oh yeah, it just took me a second. Yeah, and in addition to that, whenever anyone begins discussing what coach would kill what coach. That's the thing. If it hadn't been for Ohio State's adversity this year, I'm not sure I would have known that Luke Feckel had even left the nest. Yeah. Oh, he can leave the nest. He could bench press the nest. He could probably overhead press the nest with one hand. He wants you to spot him. I mean, yeah, I mean, you know,

you know why he likes the nest because it's full of raw eggs, bro. Yeah, that's just protein. Oh, God, is he one of those? Those are your siblings. Yeah, he's a former state champion in wrestling in Ohio, which I figure there are, if you told me, what state is the least impressive wrestling champion? Delaware. Is it Connecticut? Connecticut? It's definitely Delaware.

Nevada. No, Nevada. They got, like, desiccated wiry strength. Wyoming. It's just not that many people. Yeah, you're like, you're the toughest guy out of three. You've got to wrestle steers. and whatnot.

I'm still going shallowness the pool there, right? It's Connecticut. I'm sorry. You won the nutmeg trophy. I don't know. Connecticut, you're wrestling like Triple H's daughters.

Yeah. I think certain WWE moves are probably written into the Connecticut State Wrestling book, right? It's probably the only high school wrestling scene where you can actually

like Centon Splash people. That's one half of their bicameral legislature. They got the house and the ring The house in the WWE. Okay, it's Oregon. Oregon?

Yeah, I don't know. That's a pretty good one. Portland specifically. Too much plant matter and wine in their diet. But your point is that Luke Fickle wakes up every morning and says, got to make weight. And his family's like, what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, he's like a basic Gaston.

Yeah, he's just... The monster energy gaston. Yeah, he has done a great job, though, in all fairness, you know, he's not, he's not just an average face. No, he's more than that. He's a good coach. And this is a really big deal for Cincinnati. You know who it's not a big deal for? Virginia Tech. I mean, the fact that they're here is a big deal. It's a bowl appearance streak. Nobody said what happens after that. When you lose to Old Dominion, a 28-point underdog. It's a very old dominion. You didn't even lose the new dominion. You lost an old dominion. And you lost, you lost bad. I'm supposed to win by 28.

Is there a good loss to old dominion? It wasn't that. I can only say, like, case one of one in this data set. No, absolutely not. But in this, like Virginia Tech, lucky to be here, the detail that I would like to share with you about Virginia Tech in this ball game is that they are staying at the Mayflower Hotel in Washington. D.C.

Is anyone familiar with the sorted history of the Mayflower Hotel, recent or deep past? I love any establishment whose controversy section on Wikipedia includes its own drop-down menu. Yeah. The Mayflower, we'll just take it back a couple

of years. It's allegedly where Jeff Sessions met with Kisleyak. It's where he had contact with the Russians. But that's not all. It's where Elliot Spitzer had a two-hour prostitution service with a call girl on February 13th. So that's a romantic.

Yeah, that's cute. Yeah, also, if you're going to have a two-hour trip with the prostitute, make sure it's not part of an overall multi-state investigation into human trafficking. Well, look, how could a former attorney general of New York possibly know that such investigations existed? Oh, you're under arrest. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah.

It's the FBI. Oh, right. This whole thing that you do, that I, yeah, no, I see it now. Thursdays, am I right? Let's see. The Mayflower is also where a former Washington, D.C. mayor, and might I say, local hero, Marian Barry, was busted, I believe, smoked a crack with yes, a prostitute, and the Mayflower. Yeah. It's part of a corruption probe, I believe.

JFK had a legend mistress who stayed here and then you let's let's get to the worst part no no no let's talk about the most upsetting thing here which is what Jay Edgar Hoover used to eat for lunch yeah although I want to go back and say it wasn't a mistress because that would imply one JFK had a space and there were there were people who came through right all right right right sort of like the ESPN car wash in in several ways yeah it's your Gus Mel's on. Yeah, what I'm saying is that JFK fucked Mark Stoops. We didn't even ask you to do that. And now that's in your head. Now that's in your head. Oh, that's canon.

The most disturbing thing about the Mayflower and all this is, and we didn't even mention like there's a bunch of German spies who turn themselves in here. That's like short change. That's nothing. All right? That's small bills compared to this.

Jay, Edgar Hoover used to eat lunch there. Jay, Edgar Hoover, like, easily one of the five worst Americans of all time. Jaeger Hoover used to take his creepy self in there and he used to sit down at a table and this is what he ate. Ryan, can you say it out loud? It disgust me. Yeah. Chicken soup, which,

all right, fine. A salad consisting of iceberg lettuce, grapefruit, and cottage cheese, a side of buttered white toast, and to go with the salad, he brought his own diet salad dressing.

What an asshole. What an unbearable assful. Straight ketamine, right? Why wasn't this the entirety of the movie about Jay Edgar Hoover? Why wasn't it just like two and a half hours of Leonardo DiCaprio eating this meal

and looking like he both couldn't poop and had to poop all the time? Is the only reason he escaped being prosecuted for war crimes for this salad order because it occurred on domestic soil? I think it's because it's a punishment in and of itself. How can we,

How can we sentence him to anything worse than this? Also, he was doing this in a restaurant called the rib room. So he was going somewhere named for ribs and eating lettuce, grapefruit, cottage cheese, and his own diet salad dressing. God, you disgust me, sir. But don't worry. He looked sexy as hell. That is the first person I shoot in a 10 little Indian-style movie, right? Where you're like, who's the conspirator?

And they're like, I brought my own salad dressing. Bam! done just drop them that person they're the villain um do you does anybody know what cincinnati's nickname was in 1835 the city not the school just so we're clear oh that's easy go no i don't porkopolis damn though yeah what went wrong um nothing it was the country's main hog packing center, so Porkopolis it was. When you say hog packing, I just see people stuffing

pigs in the suitcases. Yes. That's what we do in Cincinnati. I'll put this pig into a box. And then I take the box to Memphis. This is called the Skyline duffel bag. No, that implies the contents are edible if we're talking about pigs. Skyline has nothing to do with that. I mean, I think Skyline, I think they

literally cook it in a duffel bag. back just dump the shit in and then dump it back out since he also has a quarterback named desmond ritter r i d d er in preparing for this which i did for at least three minutes i wrote it down as desmond riddler that is also canon now so if he comes out in a if he comes out in a green jumpsuit he better alter that so he can be dc's riddler matthew lescoe that's right come with me and let's find out how the government can get you points against Virginia Tech. The answer is, easily, they're free.

Where has Matthew Lesko gone during the Trump administration? You think he's going to be the next chief of staff? No, he's got as good a shot as anyone. Yeah, that's free. Although, it's free. Man, he's probably richer than Trump. I bet he's Clay Helton. You can't prove that.

You can't disprove that. Exactly. No. My theory is that Matthew Lesko, a Bill and I had the science guy or the same guy. Huh. That Bill Nye of the science guy just gets really hammered and he puts on the Matthew Lesko outfit. do you know the government will pay you not to make trees it's true

yeah that that actually is true they will yeah that's uh that's kind of a big thing it's definitely true but like bill nye spends his entire time being some sort of like extremely tedious and disciplined well actually type right he's he's not that bad he's not that bad you're thinking of don't neil digress him all all he wants to do at the end of the day, his drink a half bottle of gin, put on the Matthew Lesko, knock off Ridler outfit, and run around telling everybody

about how the Department of Agriculture will buy them a tractor. The Department of Transportation will register you as a truck, if you ask nicely. That's also true these days. Completely true. It's called the Transformers Act of 1988. And it means free

tax dollars for you. As a truck American, there's a lot of those man I know we've got like we've got at least three Alabama fans listening to this right now being like that ain't funny don't mock my don't mock my identification don't mock my ethnic ethnic

ethnical heritage yeah if I say if I say that's what I am that's what I am and as a truck American I am offended by that our leader Chevy Chase the three genders including truck so you mock my

you mock my truck nuts but you never ask about my truck heart. Virginia Tech and Cincinnati, this is yet another bowl this season that is a rematch of a former conference matchup. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And these teams met in a BCS bowl

that was one of three to pair two teams ranked outside the top 11. We thought that shit was great. We had that system for, what, 16 years? It's just like, yeah, you might get two teams that are ranked like 15th and 23rd in the biggest bowls. You'll think that's awesome. We thought that was really, really good. So much of this is voluntary, too.

You could have said no to that. Like Cincinnati could have said no. Remember, on several occasions, Notre Dame just said no. Right? Like, hey, Shreveport really wants to see you, Notre Dame, because you only won seven games this year. No, thanks. No, this was an orange ball. This was a big game.

This was like, like, we set up the system on purpose to give us number number, 19 Virginia Tech in one of the biggest bowls. Yeah, but you didn't have to take it. Yeah, Virginia Tech could have had some shame and said, like, no, we deserve the proto Belk. Yeah, what if they just said, I don't know, man, this is a lot. I'm not really about the achievement thing. I got a lot on my plate right now.

Yeah, I'm not going to be up to speed. Can we just do the Music City? Yeah, can we just do the Music City? This reminds me of a blog post by Ryan Nanny. Ryan Nanny blogged, everyone. Oh, Jesus. What? What?

Yeah, go check the byline. There is a blog on there that was written this month about how every playoff expansion plan will just piss you off in the end. And there is no magic solution that will make everyone happy because you're going to end up with number 19 Virginia Tech in one of the biggest bowls regardless. That does actually sound like Ryan. And it was great because it got plenty of good Twitter responses that were like, just making five conference champions. I was like, yep, no, you nail off. fuck i didn't think of that they took a look at all your formats and were like uh-huh i don't see the young g z175 plan on there that's the perfect one i want to write down i want to do a very

simple tweet i want to write down every possible response and then post it in a photo underneath it to see if anybody's obvious rebuttal appears in that yeah just yeah the pinko card of people who were replied to this tweet we got to do that we're having a editorial meeting right now we're going to make a playoff expansion this is tax deductible now um The only bull event I want to note for the Military Bowl is a Budweiser-Clydesdale Miracle on Annapolis Street. It doesn't say what this is,

and so I can only hypothesize that it is a faithful recreation of Miracle on 34th Street, but Santa is a giant horse. What if it's the miracle of birth starring horses? With a giant... Oh, what if it's... Oh, what if it's... It's the Christmas miracle with a Jesus horse and horse magi.

And then in a flash, I heard on the roof the scrambling and stomping of four giant hoofs. There is no room in the end. You must stay in the manger, which fur horses is fine and normal. Santa died when his horses fell through the roof because they each weighed 4,000 pounds each. just picture a giant horse in a sleigh with eight reindeer struggling to pull it and by reindeer I mean dogs of course Spencer's like dogs love horses

dogs love horses moving along yeah that's it we did it I'm gonna you know what military ball I've got to admit it ain't a classic but the next one next one is an American classic it is our second oldest

bowl game all right if the Rose Bowl is the granddaddy them all this is the problematic great uncle yeah it's a problematic great uncle

lives in the desert close to the border this is this is our grandma who lives near the border this is the uncle who teaches you to smoke and drive a transam at the same time

into Juarez for some pills this is the uncle who taught you that libertarians have both bad ideas and problematic ones. It's the Sun Bowl. Should I hit him with the welcome?

Yeah, go ahead. Oh, yeah. The people demand it. Retroactive. Welcome to our Sun Bowl preview for 40 for 40. Yeah. Beavenitos.

El Bowl de Sol. No. Stop. Stop. Somebody has a weather forecast for El Paso. because I need to know way ahead of time if it calls for snow so I can camp out and watch the pregame all day.

Let's see. Oh, Paso weather. No, it's going to be like in the 60s. Sad clown. That doesn't mean it's not going to snow. Right, yeah. Yeah, because it's going to snow. Let's just go ahead and add that on.

Or the wind will be blowing from the southwest at 48 miles an hour. There is a 20% chance of rain on Christmas. Other than that, there is no weather. It's beginning to look at that like some bowl.

I like that whole region of the country because at no point does the... Go ahead. See, folks at home, we don't... You like the whole region of the country. When we record this, we're not actually looking at each other. We're just kind of guessing when each other will begin talking yeah it's like Spencer please continue it's like the world's worst middle school

i know i'm i'm queuing you i want to hear why i was just to say i like that reason of the complete lack of weather means like if you're on a hiking trail uh the marker will be like a stick someone put down five years ago just because this stick's not going to move what's going to move it good luck the stick will just be there forever yeah it won't be washed away i was you can write a message to somebody in the future like we mean like 20 years from now It'll still be there. Yeah. Much like, and so Pitt is the stick in this scenario?

Well, the lost hiker is Bryce loved because he's not showing up. And if you are a full cast listener, you know that we have been waiting for the Pitt's super weapon to charge. Any minute now, fellas. Continue charging. Right where we want them. Still charging. And that the Sun Bowl, my theory is that the pit super weapon is unstable and we're going to put it out in the middle of the desert where it can go

off and not hurt too many people. It's fair. Are you looking for validation from me? No. That's just that that's a pause for anything? Yeah, no, this is it. Well, Pitt and the Sun Bowl is like in Rogue One when they test the weapon on like some desert

town in the middle of nowhere, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like blow up that shit hole. Save the dream. blow up a Stanford team without Bryce love nobody's going to care hi I'm Forrest Whitaker for the Sun Bowl Yeah whatever there's there's not much of me left I use this respirator because like most people in Arizona I have emphysema

But the dry weather helps Yeah So it's just basically what? Oh, that voice is somehow more nightmarous than everybody's Katrina voices. I can't super pinpoint why, but man, I'm not going to sleep tonight. 30 to 40% of all players on either of these teams will be terribly hung over.

No one will be particularly committed to this. The wind might be blowing at 25 to 35 miles an hour in both directions. It will look like it's being played on the surface of the moon. And the sponsor is Hyundai. On the surface of Jeddah. Of Volkswagen, Jeddah, to be clear. I live in it.

Bryce Love, save the rebellion. Save the dream. Get to Albuquerque. Get anywhere but El Paso. Anywhere. Get to Jacksonville. last note on the Sun Bowl there is an art show which if I had Sun Bowl art show yeah it's one of the events listed as art show so if I had if I had to guess like what

the Sun Bowl art show in my perfect universe is Stanford is peaceful we have no weapons it's true I mean yeah they really don't but yeah like the C3PO of college football right Just walking around saying stuff they think is real smart. One more. One more. Pat Nard Zusey turning to the camera at the very end of the game. Hope. My apologies to the estate of Gary Fisher.

Welcome to our next 40 for 40 free view. Just to be clear, just to be clear, though, Pitt's going to win. Your goddamn right. The red box bowl. The red box bowl. The red box bowl. didn't make that up that's real so this used to be i'm going off memory here this used to be the foster farms bowl and before that it was the craft fight hunger bull and then it was i want to say like the emerald

nut bowl or something yeah that's exactly those words is this the bowl where that one guy sends all the press releases for it in comic sands like from his aOL address it was it was now you have to get you have to go to the kiosk at publics this is this is I mean, I don't think it's great when your bowl game is sponsored by a, hey, you could always watch a movie company. I feel like that's mixed messaging. On the other hand, Red Box's business model is, we take your money. So I feel like that's entirely appropriate for a bowl economy. I also feel like it's appropriate for Michigan State because I just walk by it every time I'm in the store.

I don't think And you know what? You know what? A Red Box kiosk can't run or throw And neither can Michigan State So Yeah, let's just be real March Antonio is going to be eye

In that kiosk for quarterback I like the cuttinger gym You stand tall in the pocket and do nothing No Nothing other shit Can we prove that Redbox didn't Like emerge directly from Stanford football Hold on

We're running Blade 2 You hear me Blade 2 oh please please do not disparage blade two Michigan State wishes it had half of the entertainment value of Blade 2

I will still look I've already ridden for Blade 3 once this season and I'm only slightly All right Fine we're running Grand Terino There Thank you A confusing

Pointless I told you Ryan Reynolds was going to be a star Everybody who watched that movie We could have told you And wait was he in that one or was see in the yeah that sounds right i'm still talking about blade three i mean you know like grand terino and michigan state both pointless i mean it's that or i could talk about the foster farm bowl no yeah no there's no like that's this is one thing that makes me mad about bowl

season as michigan state is going to pop up and i'm going to be like i didn't need to see that i thought i was done it's like when your cousin sends pictures from her your your new baby cousins and she's like baby elana was born and you open the email, and it's like pictures of the baby crowning. Yeah. Open for a surprise. That actually happened to me once. Elaine is six now and she's loved one.

Listen. But her mom is mean. I don't know. That sounds like crossing the plane of the goal line. That's converting on third and short, all right? Yeah. Yeah, that's getting pushed when you need it. That's not really their style.

No. No, no, God. This team, so like... Just don't ever send pictures of your cervix to other people. I will do that if I want. Yeah. I'm just saying, we talk about problematic dickpicks all the time, but never the fact that like every year, millions of...

Never mind. I... Hold on. Michigan State had a worse passing game, yards per passwise this year than Yukon, Louisville, and Kansas. And they threw... And they threw more. Look it up.

But I'm not, I'm not done. I'm not done. Their run game was worse on a yards per rushing attempt basis than Oregon State, Tennessee, and East Carolina. Why are you got to bring us into this? You're not from East Carolina. Are you trying to say Jim Bowman isn't a genius? I might be suggesting that. I might be tilting that way slightly.

Tennessee's not here to catch your strays. We're not even supposed to be here today. That's technically true. Um, yeah, there is some good news here. Do you know why we never make fun of Michigan State for shit like that? Because they still, to this day, have not ever hired Randy Edsel twice. Not yet. That's it.

Yeah. So in other words, hey, Oregon, Oregon has some delightful players. I suggest you root for them to absolutely obliterate this Michigan State team and then run the ball in the second half so you don't have to watch any more of them. That's because, I don't know, there have been fun. Michigan State teams for watching the past this isn't one of them no no isn't this the one that lost nine to six to Nebraska yes that happened there's good news here though there's good news that's a Midwestern nice this game is on at the same time as three other bowl games that's very very rare during bowl season ESPN spaces these things out but this is I think Fox's only game

so it's being completely barreled over by everything so is Gus calling this so we can get like, Jason, can you give us a quick watchability quadrant from where we'll be at that pit will be playing. So we'll be watching Pitt in the middle of the desert. Yeah. And, uh, the game that we will do next, we will be bolting to. Yeah. Um, also, please, please put this, put this game. I acknowledge my joker. I'll keep saying it. That was a good joke, Holly. It's great. The part about everyone, uh, dying in a hole in the desert is very pit. Put this, Put this game, this red box bowl, stored in your memory, not for the game itself, but somebody's going to talk about conference bowl records at the end of, at the end of bowl season.

They're going to say, well, the Big Ten did this, and the Pac-12 did this, blah, blah, blah. This is a bowl game, and therefore matters in that equation. But it doesn't actually matter in anything else, and that's why conference bowl standing arguments are stupid, because they make things like the Red Bull, the Red Box Bowl, which should be. be the red bull you idiots the red bull the red bull the red bull but not not sponsored by red bull to be clear oh the red bowl bowl bowl just sponsored by a red bull right i like the conference uh conference bowl records thing because it automatically boosts the conference that didn't make the playoff like the big ten will have a good record this year why because their best team gets to play washington

yeah and and and on down the line if ohio state was in the playoff guess what but they're losing to Bama. And the ACC gets screwed because their teams are bad. The ACC gets screwed because they only have one good team. That's not fair. And their teams have to play in bowl games, even though, again, why should that? It's not screwed because enough of them beat each other to somehow lumber into bowl season. That's not fair.

They should all get to go home. I like watching other conferences figured out what the SEC East figured out, like, right at the start of splitting into divisions. like oh everybody loves a lobster pot except the lobsters yeah just get real jacked on top no leg muscles it's fine that is fine oh we're back to lukelle go books please move us along spencer i will not welcome to the shutdown full cast 40 for 40 preview four as my aunt patsy would say it the liberty Ball. Tell me more about Aunt Patsy.

Aunt Patsy hates the University of Tennessee, and when Peyton Manning ended up playing the Liberty Bowl one year, she called me, and I picked up the phone, and all I heard was this. They're going to the Liberty Bowls, Passen. Peyton's going to be playing a Liberty Bowl, like their Vanderbilt or something. And Vanderbilt's like, hey, that sounds like a good year for us.

Yeah, Manorball, I was like, my first response to her was, when is Vanityville to the Liberty Bowl? Damn. Yeah, no, Liberty Bowl, baby. Oh, me and Aunt Patsy got a fight now. Yeah. This is, this is between Missouri and OK State. And if I could. She's selling lip gloss on Facebook right this minute.

She is dead, actually. Listen, that, Facebook will use her to sell lip gloss. Okay, you know that. Yeah, they'd be like, that lip gloss is going to the Liberty Bowl. The Lipperty Bowl. Oh. So, use that special code, Liberty Bowl or full cast. To get 10% off your Facebook cancellation.

At 48 Godfrey. Yeah. 380 Godfrey. So Missouri, Oakey State, this is, by the way, like. If not, you should take it right? Godfrey's Hulk form. Oh, yeah, somebody grab 83 Godfrey. It's like the Red Hulk of Godfrey form.

It's like Godfrey. It's Godfrey, but with a gun. Oh, God. Red Hulk, greatest comic book character ever. What is it? It's Hulk, but he carries gun. And when asked about it, he says, because I like them. But this one, but this one supports Old Miss.

Is Red Hulk your five year old? Yes. That's like Red State Hulk. Yeah, Red State. don't encourage eric here global warming is a hulk as a hoax and you know why because i i don't wear a shirt global warming is a hulk

the EPA is police if the EPA asked you a question ask if you're being detained do y'all have any of those friends who were no no all right um this game should probably

be pretty entertaining, right? Yeah. No, this is a buy, man. This is like a, this is a, this is a diamond in the rough. By the rough, we mean Memphis. RUFF. Yeah.

Yeah, this is gonna be, this is a hot game. This is great. I like, I look at this game like, oh shit, what a great bowl. And it's, uh, this, this is a normal big 12 game. Missouri used to be there.

And now they play like, yeah, like one. Which, hell yeah, I'll take a big 12 game. I'll take a normal big 12 game. what? I got four and a half hours to kill. Let's do this. These are two teams capable of wildly different, like,

they're both capable of a wide array of things. Missouri, you know, beat Purdue, smoked Florida. Most of their games, they hung with Georgia pretty well. They also lost to South Carolina, and they only scored 14 points against Kentucky.

Oklahoma State, beat Texas, went down to the wire, against Oklahoma State, beat West Virginia. They also scored 12 points against Kansas State and lost to Baylor. So, I don't know, and lost the TCU. So, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm not saying these are good teams.

I mean, Missouri did beat Florida, but what does that mean, really? Not that they're a good team. They have good offenses. If you clock into this game, you're getting good offenses. That's as far as we'll go. I think the way to look at this game is like a mixed martial art fight between two fighters who have both knocked several opponents out and suffered heinous knockouts themselves.

We're just like, man, something bad will very much happen here. and Joe Rogan will be there probably Joe Rogan at the Liberty Bowl I would not blame anyone for showing up to this game because the Liberty Bowl I think has a one two three combo of events surrounding it that stand up to any other bowl game in terms of both unique value

and in well hell sure things I would do because I'm in Memphis the following the greeting party takes place at Bass Pro Shop Which bass? The one in the pyramid. Why aren't they playing this game inside the pyramid? She asks for the umpteenth year in a row.

The pyramid that has two hotels, the pyramid that has at least three restaurants in it, the pyramid that has its own basically fully sustainable ecosystem, including a freshwater river system. I think it was Jason who first suggested years ago on this program that when civilization collapses, this is where we are meeting to rebuild. Oh yeah. Yeah, it's the archaeology. Yeah. Spencer, you won't be alive, but the rest of us will be there.

That's fine. You can feed on my body. Oh, a lot of gristle. We're going to hang your jersey in the rafters of the Bass Pro Shop Pyramid. I think you mean we're going to hang your jerky in the rafters. Delicious. That would be even more perfect. It can be both.

What better honor than be eaten by my friends. A lot of gristle on this one. It has that. The greeting party is at the pyramid. There is a rodeo associated with the Liberty Bowl. Which produces some of the best social media content. Absolutely, because you're going to get football players with cowboy hats attempting cowboy things. No, that's the one that you're thinking of the Texas Bowl rodeo.

Yeah. It's a different rodeo. Oh, what is the social media content that I'm missing? It's just a rodeo. Oh, okay. What is this your first radio? If it's a Memphis rodeo, is it like mechanical bowl? Is it?

Actually, I hope so. I feel obligated to read you this session. from the Memphis Pyramid Wikipedia, but I'm going to leave out the answer for reasons that will become obvious. This band performed what is reputed, I don't know why this wouldn't be a matter of record, to be the last concert ever in the pyramid on February 3rd, 2007. Can you guess which band it was? Train. In 2007?

Yep. In Memphis? Yep. It's train. Hmm. I'm going to go, is it a new metal band? No. Is it cold play?

No. Holly is so far off. That's new. Is it 3-6? It's Bob Seeger and the Silver Bullet Band. Are you kidding me? Nope. Spencer?

Just take them. Just take them. Hollywood Hill. Just take that old Memphis off the shit. Just take that old Memphis off the shelf Oh god You're gonna make me do it Just take that old Memphis off the shelf

You're just gonna play that part over and over again Just take that old Memphis off the shelf You can't ever come in Just take that Damn it Hell Just take that old Memphis off the shelf Just take that old Memphis off the shelf

Just take that old Memphis off the shelf Just take that old Memphis off the shelf They sold the place out All right That's amazing We have more singing to do for our next ball so oh shit oh boy oh it's that time yeah

it's about time welcome the shutdown full cast 44 44 do do do do do do do do do do do do I found out

long ago it's a long way to the holiday bowl oh holiday bo as a maddo grad i'll be watching this game northwestern versus uton the rose bowl nobody wanted and god didn't give us oh we almost got also the complete opposite of missou Oklahoma State if you want to flip between these two games you will hurt yourself yeah you're going to get whiplash real bad all of the points from this game

will be in that other game. You're going to get the bends of the soul. Yeah, you know when you're on one of those moving walkways at the airport and you don't realize that you're about to step off, that feeling will be the feeling you will get switching from the Liberty Bowl to this game. Hey, look real quick at a picture of Kyle Winningham. I already am, sir.

Is it possible that he is Pat Fitzgerald's looper? I hadn't considered it I just realized my phone was still playing very quietly in the back I don't think it's possible because Kyle Whittingham has You don't just become the kind of man who doesn't have boat muscles

That's just not a change that has You're saying Kyle Whittingham doesn't have boat muscles Kyle Whittingham doesn't have boat muscles He's got upside down boat muscles. That's what I'm saying, Pat Fitzgerald has boat muscles of the neck, and you don't all of a sudden just become a man who works out the entire rest of your body. Wait, wait. You don't just invert.

Kyle Whittingham has like bathroom stall muscles. Yeah, yeah. Like, this is the thing. Their masses are redistributed completely differently. The gravity took hold of Pat Fitzgerald's muscles and jammed all of them down to where they're actually useful. Because he's a looper coming back to warn Pat Fitzgerald to not go, you know, to not do too much cardio. To squat every day.

Yeah. Now, there's a thought that's going to fester. Yeah, I don't know. Call Whittingham as a tan, too. Pat Fitzgerald as a resident in Chicago. That's from the nuclear fallout from his time. Okay. This theory is checking out.

I see no gaps. This is Northwestern, Utah. I, man. It's not so much word to say it. Yeah, we were having fun talking about Looper, and you ruined it. so the uh the uh the vagus total in this game anyone want to guess 44 44 i'm gonna say 44 i'm gonna go 44 on the no yes look at that under the sandman's tutelage

I have the under of course anyone want to guess the highest total of any poll this year um isn't Oklahoma Bama super high it is is that the highest it is um and I think that one's like 70 some? 81 points. God damn.

For a game involving Nicholas Sabin the first. I'm never close. So basically a Bama game might be twice another bowl game by the time. Say we get a little bit of weather. Yes. Oh yeah, absolutely.

Is this what we want football to be? Thanks for listening, Nick. I just appreciate our pal Nick for listening. I'm going to go for Utah to cover in points and actual job skills given to graduates. I just, I also want you to know, and maybe it's my Google results, because I'm not in incognito mode.

When I Google Holiday Bowl, the first result I get is Holiday Bowl NJ.com, North Jersey Bowling Centers. No, that's right. Okay. That's where they're playing it. I think I would rather go to that than to the actual Holiday Bowl. Yeah, we found that out long ago. That should be the end.

We got one more to do. Yeah, unfortunately, we have more football to discuss. No, it should be the, no, that should be the end. We should stop. We should skip one just to see those. Oh, no. All right. Here, let's, let's hit it.

Let's hit it. We have to honor this one for finally changing its name back. Yeah. Wait, what are we? Taxes are dead. Hello. Taxes shall be slain no more. Yeah, I guess the whole point of, like, doing your taxes kind of seems quaint in 2018.

Right, right. Yeah, hold on, let me hit them. Taxes are for suckers. Welcome, the shutdown full cast, 40 for 40 for, no, no, no longer the tax slayer bowl. All the taxes have been slain. Yeah. The Gator Bowl. That's right, damn it.

The Gator Bowl, back in the name that we should all call it in Jacksonville. Imagine the thrill. Imagine the Zephyra of Fate blowing over your house and saying, young man, you at the age of 19, finally get to step foot in, Duval County. Breath of the Wild, Jacksonville. I don't understand that reference, then I won't respond. The good news is whoever wins this game

will have as many wins in Jacksonville in December as the Jaguars do, so. I like how Breath of the Wild's map is as large as Jacksonville but with only like four buildings Jacksonville would be the worst GTA game because you would be like oh look another pine baron

because it'd be like oh god it takes it takes two hours in game time to drive across the map yeah and you'd say wow what a lack of variety in the landscape you just there's a mission by the bridge

I'm just going to use my fire arrows on everything fuck it a welcome change Realistic. Fortles. You know. Why don't you go, go meet him at the Publix. The Publix by the bridge.

Just go to the bridge and then look for the nearest publics. NC State, Texas, A&M. It is your honor, your privilege to. Ah, boy. Wow. No, no, keep going, Ryan. This is great. No, I got tired.

A rivalry rekindle of Kimbo Fisher versus the team that owned his ass. that one year that one time yeah nc state nc state can you can you remind me of what nc state's record is at this point uh it is better over the last uh five years than ucfs i believe four or five i think it's five what whatever year we need to use to get the oh and 12s you go back to the That was well. The NIC State is a better football program than two-time national champion UCF. Don't do that. They hear that.

They hear that. They're already yelling at me because I said maybe it would be fine if you played Florida. So they're already mad at it. No, it's fine. You got to understand Florida, they want to schedule Florida home and home, but also Florida is not any good. So why do they get to make any demands? Also, they won as many power five games as possible.

But three against one team is too many. I will tell you why I am picking Texas A&M in this game It is not because they are favored by I believe six points I am picking Texas A&M in this game Because NC State's current record is 9 and 3 As we all know Per the Amato Act

Of 1999 Oh boy I'm sorry, that's Mickey Mouse Yeah The hell It's UCF I was trying to do They're in here

Oh God I was trying to sue a motto I mean, you think UCF fans would be too busy listening to Joe Rogan podcast for grad work, but... Please don't add us. God. They'll hear that. Wait, wait, no, I have a solution here.

UCF, skip your bowl game, go to this bowl game, and challenge both teams back to back. Can UCF skip his bowl game and say, we're going to the pros? We're joining the AFC South. Absolutely. Jags will be like, thank God. kill me tag listen we're fine with not going to the playoff yeah but yeah

currently nc state stands at nine and three per the amato act nc state has to rack up at least four losses in a regulation season including bowls so we're just going to go ahead and i'm going to pick them on that because i don't know nc state's got to lose do you know nc state's only 10 win team ever no coached by chuck omato Yeah, was this the Philip Rivers year

with Norm Chow's offensive coordinator? Gotcha. That's what we were referencing. I didn't know if we were sticking him with like the tag of constant mediocrity, but he was the one who broke through the clouds. He was. He was excellence.

He and Philip Rivers and again, legendary offensive coordinator Norm Chow, who after spending one year in North Carolina was like, bye. I'm really more of a West Coast guy as in west of here anywhere I'm out yeah this game this game is going to suck I just NC state's going to lose so the the best season in NC state history

ended with a tie in the blue bonnet bowl and haven't they they've already lost to coordinate they've lost an offensive coordinator they lost a position coach in the last like week and a half right man how many days do we have before this episode does that who's to say Everything we say is timely and useless. So if they really put it on, Texas A&M, this could be the best year in NC State history.

They're what, what are they right now? Like, I don't know, 19th or something? And they would have 10 wins. Yeah. Oh, they're unranked. I apologize. This will not be the best season in NC State history. Lou Holtz's spot is safe.

Philip Rivers and NC State. both racing to 10 Which one of you lied and said This wasn't the Taxlayer Gator Bowl anymore Because it still is No they changed it so you You can call it the Gator Bowl now Instead of just the Taxlayer Bowl

It's still on there They can put whatever on there They want but we don't have to say it anymore Wasn't it the Taxlayer.com Gator Bowl The taxes are just still being murdered Buck down left and right Here's what we do We put the taxes in the back of a

In the back of a truck, okay? We drive them miles away from their house. We drive in circles, so they don't know where we are. Then we call their family, and we say, we want $8 million. But you know what? That's all rude, because we were always going to kill the taxes. We were always going to kill the taxes. If you pay us $8 million, we've got to pay taxes.

That's right. I don't really want to deal with that. We feel that's not. That's a gift. It's not consistent with our brand. It's a gift, and you have to declare it.