Shutdown Fullcast - 40 FOR 40: This One Bowl Game Is Better Than Most Of The Playoff Matchups

Episode Date: December 26, 2024

It's the unavoidable return of 40 For 40, in which we preview each college football postseason game in as much detail as they each deserveSubjected to scrutiny today: the Fenway, Pinstripe, New Mexico, Pop-Tarts, Arizona, Military, Alamo, Independence, and Music City BowlsBut first: Drop bears updateTest-driving our Steve Belichick voicesThose are pretty good, but Spencer's E.T is not something we know how to prepare you forUnexpected Miami real estate interludeWho got the biggest sponsor update in bowl history?Fashion advice for HellraiserWe're aware that Rex Ryan didn't take the Wake Forest job, but had too much fun recreating the AFC East in the ACC to cut this part outReclaiming traditional football values with ColoradoThere are too many plotlines in Conference USAJason delivers a Music Ciry Bowl sermonIowa win total mentionedThanks as always to Wikipedia, powering the 40 for 40 for however long we've been doing thisFullcast theme song arranged and performed by Wes HuntListen to Ryan's other, less harrowing show, We're Not All Like This, and check out his new narrative podcast with Steven Godfrey, Who Killed College Football? https://www.wkcfb.com/Check out Jason's free CFB Watch Grid newsletter and other work: https://www.jasonkirk.fyi/Find Holly and Spencer writing and chirping at https://channel-6.ghost.io/Purchase only the finest Fullcast gear at sunny https://preownedairboats.com/

We got a message from alert reader, Andrew. And all it says is drop bears are back. And I didn't really know what he meant by that. Did you drop, like lemon drop? Drop bears are back. Drop. And he sent me an ABC Denver headline. Okay.

I want you to know what comes up when I Google drop bear. No, I want to, I mean, I know what he means. Oh, I didn't. I didn't. Well, now it's been spoiled for you. I wouldn't say that at all based on this Wikipedia page, but please go to that. Okay, I've got a news article. Wikipedia page, okay.

I have a Wikipedia. What is your news article say? Why don't you guys just talk? Why don't you, y'all just talk? No, no, no. I want to know what yours says, and I want to see if it meshes at all with what I have found. Virginia father of five killed by bear falling from tree during hunting accident. That is not what I found at all.

What did you get? If you go to Wikipedia and you insert the term drop bear, two words. You get the following sentence. The drop bear is a hoax in contemporary Australian folklore featuring a predatory carnivorous version of the koala. Chihuahua brain back. And it falls on you? They are described as unusually large and vicious marsupials that inhabit tree tops and attack unsuspecting people that walk beneath them by drop. dropping onto their heads from above.

Walking for a bear, but also a nipo. In Australia, they are under so much animal danger at all times. They only have time to... It's a drop bear. Why'd you call it that? Because it's dropping. Run. Run under the tarantula pit, away from the spider wall.

Yeah, it's over by Scorpion Bay. It's mostly used to, like... Which is a bay full of scorpions that can swim. That's what it says on the tin. And we call them Fred. It's mostly used to, like, make fun of and confused tourists. But I like that America said like, like, that America has said, like, fuck your mythical drop bear. Drop bear is real now.

America, where Australia is real. All that made up shit about Australia. Ooh, everything's so scary. Yeah, it's real here. That's right. An investigation by the Virginia Department of Wildlife Resources suggests, oh, I love this, because there were multiple people and multiple witnesses, and this means no one wants to talk about it. or that something even dumber than this happened. An investigation by the Virginia Department of Wildlife Resources

suggests that a group of hunters chased a bear into a tree. Then, as the group retreated from the bottom of the tree, one of the hunters shot the bear. As the animal fell, it hit 58-year-old Lester C. Harvey Jr., who was standing about 10 feet from the bottom of the tree. Harvey, who had been in serious but stable condition after being transported to a hospital, died of his injuries, meaning he knew what had happened to him. Oh, no.

The department is not currently seeking any charges related to this incident, an official with... Charges against whom? The bear, obviously. I'm pretty sure the bear's also dead. I think if you launch a carcass at someone, you are the perpetrator. We all know about the trampoline bear Like that's when Andrew said drop bear is back I thought we were back on to the trampoline bear

And so like if you trebiochet a diseased carcass over a wall Into a population you are the one who has spread the contaminant Therefore I as your attorney I would advise you to not do that This is a real good law school exam question If you illegally poach a bear And by doing so cause it to fall on to And I'm not saying they were illegally poaching for purposes of the hypothetical.

If you cause it to fall on a friend of yours and it kills him, are you guilty of felony murder? And I think the answer might be, yes. First question, Your Honor, what if they're not a friend? I don't think it matters, truthfully. That's there.

Sometimes you've got to sprinkle the problem with red herrings. That's right. Here I was, first year law student. I was barreling down the path to establishing whether these two folks like each other. There I was, illegally bear hunting with my common law wife. There I was.

Oh, no. Bear hunting with some asshole I hate. But I didn't shoot the bear into him on purpose. Barreling. It's like when you go caroling put with bears. Here we come a bit. Listen, okay, we all talk about how, not we, tiresome people who don't understand context, talk about how, like, baby it's cold outside and Santa Baby are

problematic Christmas carols. You all know the real nightmare scenario was here we come a caroling, right? Like it's ragamuffin day. Sure. Hey, let us in. We're not actually poor people. We're your neighbor's annoying kids. Where the history of it is like, we're going to go sing at the village rich guy until he gives

us a bunch of stuff or we're going to fucking kill him. That's why you got to keep a bear above your door that you could drop on those kids at any point. It's like the real history of like gargoy. and stuff, except it's alive. We could co-op the Welsh tradition of the... We could co-op the Welsh tradition of the horse skull on the pole and just have a bear. Drop bear.

Critical support to the RKO bear here. Like, coming out of that tree like Randy Orton. Listen, Holly, you've suggested that the bear is dead, and I agree that you're probably right. But what if it's not? What a great story this bear has to tell other bears? Your Honor. What if I am better friends with the bear

than with the... What if the bear is better friends with the judge? Oh, well, that's when we're all in a real pickle. Bang, bang, bang. Welcome to Wake your Common Court. How deep does this go? I don't know. Let's ask Judge Catfish.

What if the bear is the judge and the judge was killed by the bear? Dude, if you show up to that case and you look up and it's bear judge, you're like, fuck. The surgeon is his mother. That's the answer. Yeah, because how dare you say a bear couldn't be a judge? The surgeon is a bear. You bigot against bears? I'm so happy that our two different cultures, an ocean apart from one another, have come up with two ways that drop bear can be real.

The world's two dumbest countries. Excuse me. Two of the three dumbest countries. England, I don't know what you. I don't know what you've gotten up to. We learned it from you. We learned it from you. Everybody in Australia got there because they couldn't act right in England.

Can you find a video of a British TV reporter being pranked into thinking the koala was dangerous in Australia? 100%. Where did this happen? On Kangaroo Island. You can't tell jokes about Australia. They're all real. Why is it called that? It sounds like a Mario level.

It's another joke. It's not a rue on it. How'd you like to spin Chris? Oh, God! Bag, kick! This episode comes out after Christmas, so we're all safe. If you're listening to this, mark yourself safe for Christmas Dropsy Bear. Dropsy is something else.

You are in the time warp. We are over a week ahead, before Christmas right now. So if you're hearing this, who knows what in the world has happened since now. And if you go to the Fenway Bowl, ask Bill Belichick about Drop Bear, and if Drop Bear is real. it feels like a position he made up for like one game in like 2009 yeah that's when we ran a paid manning he didn't know what to handle and we dropped Vince wheel forking coverage so we had Richard Seymour back there he was a drop two the day I hate myself and everyone around me except football y'all I'm gonna I gotta tell you y'all something I I believe that

the contracts have been signed i still don't believe that bill bellichick is going to be coaching uncc football on labor day that's the thing is the contracts themselves have we talked have we talked about where his buyout drops it drops in the middle of the summer it drops this summer oh ryan doesn't know this we get to tell ryan ryan his buyout drops from like five million to one million for him to leave on like june first 2025 Two months before kickoff, as in AKA right around the time Steve Belichick is just entrenched.

Well, look. He's in the walls. And I also have it on good authority. I checked. Per front of the program, Mike Felder, who had this before anybody, by the way. A friend of the program, UNC alum, former UNC player, Mike Felder,

who says that, yes, if you were wondering, the thing that they're trying to do with Steve Belichick is illegal under North Carolina law, and they're just going to do it anyway. That's a drop bear. Who's what it is? That's all it is.

A drop bell. This is my son, Steve. This is my classic drop Steve. This is my drop son. After all, how do you get Nepo babies out of a helicopter parent? You drop them. You drop them, right? That's right.

Boy, that's the worst gift a father has ever bequeath their son. Congratulations. You have them historically mediocre UNC football program. Did you know over this millennium, their average win total is like 6.2? This is like, like the middest program. It's the middest goddamn program. And this is the program that every like NFL media such and such is looking in like, oh my gosh, he's going to, he's going to educate them on football and they're going to be winning titles left and right.

And it's like, I mean, if they got up to seven and five, there'd be improvement. Let's settle down just a little bit. Hey, it'd be pretty funny if he did that. Like, I understand your hesitancy. It'd be pretty funny if Bill Belich got. in there and ripped off 11 wins. No problem. That would be very fun.

Football is easy. The people before me were idiots. Only Freddie Kitchens deserves to be here. My thing is like any other NFL coach coming down, I'm like, ah, pf, idiot. This isn't going to work. But him, I'm like, okay, I know this man has thought more about Rutgers fullbacks than everyone else in the history of the world combined.

Legally bland. You know who was mid as hell as a rule for most of their existence, too, before Bill Belich got there? the New England fucking Patriots One random year And then all of a sudden Next thing you know Kind of like Alabama in that way

Just not much to offer In the history books Spencer's starting the show Before he gets us in trouble Welcome. To the shutdown to the shutdown full cast. You are listening to the internet's only college football podcast.

We are in the midst of 40 for 40 our bowl game. previews where we take exactly as long as we like to discuss every single bowl game on the schedule let's get to it there we go who has the chimes spencer has the chimes smithmsmith chimsman yes chimesman first up the fenway bowl in the first four years of this bowl which produced two football games yes that's right we probably on this show thoroughly discussed this event being sponsored by Wasabi, which is some computer company in Boston and the disconnect between

Boston and Wasabi. I have decided that name is not canon. There is no Boston company that gets to name itself after Wasabi, a food that has flavors. The Boston Computer Company has hereby, as of right now,

changed its name to White People Spicy. And the bowl game must follow suit. So previously, in the White People Spicey Bowl, Louisville beat Cincinnati, which then joined a power conference. And then Boston College beat SMU, which then joined a power conference. So, Yukon, UNC this year, and if the trend holds, then we could see the 2024 White People Spicy Bowl resulting in a power conference invitation for UNC. Big 10, big 10, big 10, big 10. Maybe.

Big or 10. Jim Moore could have Yukon at 9 and 4. I thought the Burger 10. In year three. Like three, one score losses in the four losses for Mora. Yes, that would tie Yukon for the most wins in a single season as an FBS team. They hit nine in 2003 and 2007. And Jason, you're right.

I don't think I realized how close Yukon was to this legendary season. They got stomp by Maryland to start the year. Their only other losses are by five to Duke, three to wake, and seven to Syracuse. Like, this is a perfectly, I mean, no, statistically, this is very middle of the pack, Yukon team. But when you're grading on a Yukon football scale being like, oh, you're the 70s and the 60s and the 80s, that's great for Yukon, man. Like, that's fucking killer. No quarrel to be had with them whatsoever.

I mean, grading based on what they were the year before Mora showed up when they were the worst team in FBS, one of the, like, when they were like the Kent State of that season. And we were astounded when he got him to a bowl. And now they're like, I mean, shit, do you rank them at the end of the year if they're nine and four? I think we decided this on an earlier episode this season, right? Rank your con? I mean, you have to. Yeah?

Yeah. Sorry. But somebody goes, well, then, no, actually that. I see you. I'm talking to every AP voter listening to this right now. I know you're all here. We're going to do rank. Who gives a shit, Texas A&M or whatever?

Hey, hey, in honor of Jim Mora, give him the spot you usually give to UCLA. Give them 23. Now, I do, I do hope Jim Mora uses the press conference at this. this bowl game to talk about, like, how he's looking forward to helping Bill Belichick transition from the NFL to college football, a thing that he's done successfully. I must start calling him Jim W. Mora. A thing he's done successful. Like, he had multiple top 20 finish, a top 10 finish at UCLA. Like, it is valid that Jim Mora is the guy who can go to Bill Belichick and say, hey, hey,

hey, young, young, hey, young pup. Listen, let me take you under my wing. Who are you calling a whippersnapper? Most notably for UNC, Omari and Hampton, who carried a lot of the load for them this year, 1660 rushing yards, which was second in the nation, second on the team with 373 receiving yards. He is opting out this bowl game to prepare for the NFL draft. So the dream of nine-win Yukon is, I dare say, alive and well, because UNC's defense, they opt out all year, frankly.

Well, and Ryan, lest we forget, one of them. other thing that we have recently manifested into existence? Who's coaching U and C in this bowl? Which of the many head coaches on staff? It is Freddie Kitchens, right? Mm-hmm. Okay, good. Great. Another NFL veteran who can smooth the transitions for Bill Belichick.

All that's really doing, by the way, is freeing Jeff Collins up to really cook. I like that we're converging all these former NFL coaches in a fucking baseball. It's like a deer with. Yeah. game. I want to go to the stands with binoculars and like bird watch. Ooh. Oh. He's got an itchy coin slot. Do you think Bill Belichick's going to like try to attend this game and just add a habit go up to Foxborough and get there and be like, ah, shit.

I took a, I just got on the highway. That's exactly the tone and level of irritation that he will deploy to. And then he'll just say, he'll just be like, well. He's a Buick enclave man, right? He strikes me as a Buick. John Clave, man. Peyton gave him one for free. I showed up at the baseball stadium, and Mora's kid called me a whippersnapper. You know, in 1953, Rutgers had a formation. They called the whippersnapper, where they'd snap it to a guy who would then whip the ball back to the center.

And it didn't get any yards, but it was... They'd throw a wide receiver like a bear out of a tree. No one knew what you make of it. But I finally cracked the code. Yeah, his name was Stan Ustra Hoosin. He's an amazing player. We're just to get chills talking about him. So the thing about punt coverage at Navy is.

I don't want the abrupt ending to the previous Bull preview to make it seem like we're not all incredibly excited to be honing this Bill Belichick voice over the next five months until he leaves. And then we have a whole new character. I'm the Bill Belichick who left. I'm Steve. I'm Steve Belichick. I know he's a grown man, but in my head, in my head I see Harvey the Elf, or Hermie the Elb from the Clay. Amation Rudolph. Steve Belichick and your overalls, your overall shorts and your propeller hat.

I would love if Steve Belichick all surprised us in this introductory press conference. It was like, hello, my name is Steve Belichick. I'm still expecting to be here. It doesn't help that Steve Belichick is. That's Caroline DeNard. Why don't you just seem like walking up with a little hammer? I mean, like, it's not wise to upset a future dentist. It does not help that Steve Belichick has the name I would come up with for a fake Belichick

being the most it is like which Belichick and I'm going to be like oh Steve you know Steve he coached linebackers that's got to be what Bill did right they're like Bill's looking

at film and they call and they're like yeah your wife's had the baby what do you want to name him and he's like oh Steve all right I've got to watch this LT film he's like so so I was looking at Steve Emptman the other day and Steve fine that's the first word you said Epitman Belichick no

That's a no Name him after Craig Guys I'm pretty sure He's named after Steve Mariucci Let's be real Technically this is all part of the pinstripe bowl preview What we're doing here Look at all this content

Oh we've just made our Fenway bowl And our pinstripe bowl Fight as though they were rivals Oh yeah That's fun The brands Wasabi and bad boy I knew what that meant

I would appreciate it I'm gonna plant a seed for later or accidentally time travel real quick. Ryan Jason Serber, because I tried Spencer with this yesterday. Can you guys name off the top of your head the other bowl game that has consisted? And I'm not talking about like the year

that the San Francisco Giants had that game. Can you guys name the other bowl game that has been played in a baseball stadium for like eight years? Chase Field in Arizona. God damn it. Oh, okay. And one.

It was the chief. It was. Now it's the rate bowl, but we'll get to that yesterday last week. We will have gotten to that. I have watched, Jason, you know how, y'all remember how obsessed we were with that one Cheez-It Bowl? I'm pretty sure I learned for the first time yesterday doing notes that that game is played at the Diamondback Stadium. I swear to God, I've never absorbed that information. I don't know how that's possible. I don't want us to stop the Pinsight Bowl preview, and I'm going to ask, This is a great Constraight Bowl preview. I want to try something, and I really want to see if we can all hold to it.

I want to read y'all a screenshot of an Apple News Sports Alert, and I just want to read it to you, and I want to see if we can all not react to it at all. Is this one of those AI ones right now? This is from right now. So three weeks from now. Jerry Jones admitted to eating squirrels and raccoons during a recent interview about the Cowboys' Offseason Plans, period. Well, you know, no, he's out there trying to.

that doesn't move me at all because it's not about lacrosse or Rams You damn right I did The RFK of Arlington This is Jerry's out there trying to trade on

Xavier Legate's social capital That's all he's doing The bad boy mowers pinstripe Bowl Bad boy mowers of course Is the company that wants you to think Expensive yard work equipment is the best way to convey your rebellious personality

It's been a part of bowl season off and on since 2017. We've done roughly annual episodes about their time in the Gasparilla Bowl, a stadium that doesn't have any grass, and or this era in New York City, a town that doesn't have any grass. The main thing I was curious about this time is whether their branding is any less bro-y than it was when they first got involved in sports.

They also, at this point, also sponsor college basketball stuff and for whatever goddamn reason, the Kansas City Chiefs. I scrolled their Instagram back all the way to the very beginning. now it's mostly about remembering 9-11 and women in flannel being yard work mama bears who do yard work while thinking about 9-11 so like it's no longer bro in the hooters but expensive yard work since

but it has become bro in the doing expensive yard work keeps the terrorists away since like everything it looks yeah yeah yeah orange I didn't even know it was legal to buy one of these in New York State I don't know where you would in the city That's where I want to know You gotta drive it in

Who is somebody who's an intrepid reporter In the New York City area Figure out how far outside of the city You have to go to acquire in person A Bad Boy City's mower Bad Boy are these things Do they have dealerships? There's probably there is a dealership called

Bob's Bad Boys in Munsville, New York Locate your local bad boy dealer There's one in New York City. Okay, so real quick, the closest... Closest to Manhattan. The closest licensed dealership appears to be Eastern power equipment in Locust Valley, New York.

Cool. Your other option... Wait, that's technically on Long Island. Long Island makes sense. Your other option will be Lindhurst, New Jersey. Sure. I'm driving it over the bridge. There's a tractor supply company further out on Long Island

like where my cousins live. I have cousins I can call for this. I'll get one to go down and check this out. This is all very ironic, Jason, because one of the things that really appalled Saeed Kutab, who was the guy who founded Salapi Jihadism, which is the sort of branch of thinking that later sprouted Al-Qaeda.

I was going to say. Super excited to see where this goes. No, it matches up, I promise. You don't think it's going around this corner. I see where this is going. Yeah, one of the things that honked him off when he was in the United States and that he could not understand

our lawns. He could not understand why we wasted so much time. I didn't fly a plane about it. He went to your beloved Colorado State College of Education. Oh? And when he was in Colorado,

he would watch Americans go out and waste hours on their lawns and be like decadent, trash. Half that state is zero escape. 9-11 would be so much worse if he was in Georgia. Is that what you're saying? I'm hearing he got it done

because he's rammed. I'm tough. This map of bad boy mowers dealers outside of Manhattan, it lines up very closely with airports outside of Manhattan. So like, maybe there's a connection there. If you want to fly in, pick up a lawnmower on the way. And none of them are convenient at all. You might see a bad boy mower flying overhead. That's what's been terrifying everyone in Jersey.

The bad boy mower drones. Bad boy mowers on the wing. Bad boy droners. So no. Imagine looking out on the wing of your plane like in terror at 30,000 feet and you just see like a bad boy mower just sitting out there. Being driven by Carl from Aquatine

Hunger. Or not driven at all. None of this matters. The sky is full of women in flannel shirts riding orange drones. Don't be a trad wife, be a rad wife. Yeah. A bad boy mower. Yeah. Bad wife. A bad wife. Bad wife pinstripe mowers

bowl. So this honored bowl is of course where Nebraska's bull drought comes to an end is probably. If we make it to kickoff. That's true. That's true. We are recording this. For posterity sake, we're recording this on December 17th. That things can and may change.

Does anyone remember the last bowl that Nebraska played in? It was the 2016 season. It was not a victory for the Huskers. No. I'm going to guess that it was the Armed Forces Bowl. No. It was the Music City Bowl. Does anyone remember what the result? was in that game. It was an L, I know that much.

I'm looking at Holly specifically. I don't want to talk about it. Why? Tennessee won. I don't like the Music City Bowl. A Butch Jones Tennessee team beat Nebraska in their last time at a bowl game. Okay, let's talk a little bit about Boston College. Thomas Castellanos has transferred

to Florida State, so he won't be playing in this game. Do they need a quarterback, Ryan? Florida State, you might be interested to know is a team that Boston College outrushed 263 to 21 when they beat them this year. I assume Thomas Costellanos is transferring because he got tired of playing on easy mode at Boston College and wants to transfer himself,

challenge himself at a school like Florida State. B.C's preseason win total. 4.5. Stanford was the only ACC team with a lower one. again like all apologies to bill o'brien we were not sufficiently familiar with your game and if there is one terrifying thing you should watch for on the nebraska side here's dylan riolla in his last seven games with the huskers three touchdowns thrown eight picks not a positive trend that's all i enjoy the part of a cute

QB's developmental cycle where they get confident and they shouldn't be. I wonder if it's great, it happens a lot to young QBs. They're like, I got total command of this off. Oh, shit. You're describing 16 and a half year old driver. Yes. Do you think part of it is his mind meld thing with Patrick Mahomes where like, you know, the latter half of the season has gone, the offense at least isn't pretty disgusting for the chief.

So he's like, okay, well, that's what the big man's doing. That's it. That's it. It's an E.T thing where they're like. I'm sick, you're sick. Patrick. The broccoli-haired gestalt is decided to the... Spencer, what voice are you doing right now?

You hurt, I hurt. Dillon Rioli tea. It's meat, what are you doing? It's meatwad. I don't know. Eventually everything is meatwad. So in 1950... It kind of sounded like your Bill Belichick and your ET bled into each other.

In 1950, at Dartmouth, they had this guy called Meatwad. Yeah, it's great. It's phenomenal. The long snap in that guy could do. I mean, deeply anti-Italian for reasons I'll never understand. I don't know what those are, because there's not many of those that play football. It's the only thing I know anything about. The New Mexico Bowl has been sponsored by, in order.

Nobody. Gildan T-shirts. Nobody. A local film studio scam. Nobody. PubG, the video game that is Fortnite for old people. nobody and now an albuquerque resort casino that's it is up there for like list of best bowl sponsors ever competing against st petersburg itself especially if you include all the nobodies

it is it is wild that in the in the field that includes the magic jack bowl which was also the bitcoin bowl the new mexico bowl is the only bowl that we know of that was ever scammed by its own sponsor into believing that the sponsor existed i kind of can't believe that that never happened to any of the Florida Bulls, which is separate from, was it the Independence Bowl that signed a contract that thought they, that had a bowl sponsor, but the Bull sponsor was like, we're not paying you. And that was just the, wasn't that the Independence with Duck Commander of Memory Serves? Yes. God, because they were, the bowl system is so good. And I can understand why it's very important to

everyone to preserve it in all its forms. It's just airtight, really. I mean, I, I, I view bowl season as like a work of art what a commentary on capitalism and the world and the various interlocking systems we have and you know like i don't look at it as like oh gosh it's important because it's legitimate i look at it because it's important because it has a lot to say interlocking systems kind of sounds like it could be the next sponsor for the helicopter ball and you look up what they do and every time you type the company name it auto fills like syrian wedding humanitarian disaster it's like wait on your f aq it says yes we want blade runner to be real? I'm confused.

Yeah, Palantir is not in the bowl game sponsorship yet, and I'm kind of shocked. Where's Soron? Where's Cerberus? That you know of. Yeah. Cerberus should be in the bull game system, honestly. Honestly.

Folks, if you're in the Arbacurkey for the game on December 28th, sorry to whoever I just interrupted, but I was really on a role about being in Albuquerque. There are also local musicians at the resorts bar, but the resort's next next available showroom concert that isn't until the Righteous Brothers on

February 1st. The Righteous Brothers are currently one of the original guys from 1963 and a guy who joined in 2016. I tried to find a Righteous Brothers like subreddit to see how people feel about this, but there isn't one. I couldn't believe it. This year's New Mexico Bowl is between TCU and Louisiana. Solid teams making their New Mexico Bowl debuts. And as far as I can tell, the Righteous Brothers community just hangs out on Facebook. Spencer, can you search Tex-Ags and Tiger Droppings real quick for Righteous Brothers content? Let us know Oh, I don't think you want.

I don't think you want text-agged results on Righteous and Brothers. Why are all these results from January 6th? I'm so confused. This is so righteous what's happening on my television. Louisiana, until they got transced by Marshall, was just having an awesome season on offense. Even with that result, they are 33rd in offensive F-plus rating, their 10th in yards per play, their 10th in plays that gained at least 20 yards, their 9th in points per offensive drive. they are having some of their key pieces in the portal, but they do a pretty good job of spreading the ball around. So I think you'll still get some good fireworks from their side.

On the TCU side, Jack Besh is the best receiver TCU has, and he injured his MCL in the last game of the season against Cincinnati. He's probably not going to play. I have no feelings about this year's TCU team. They had a super weird year. They had that game that they completely blew. where they blew a three touchdown lead to UCF, they can still win nine games, and that's fine.

Like, that's perfectly legit. But in a, and this happens, like, it's a big college football constellation. This is a team I, I really don't think I thought of more than maybe twice this season.

If it wasn't for a friend of the program, Joel Anderson, occasionally chiming in and saying, this sucks, I would not have paid attention at all. also wanted to say canonically New Mexico Bowl you'll always be the Gildan Bowl to me baby

Oh 100% Always Is that the one that locked in for you That really was when Like there was a fight For the year they debuted They debuted the Gildanity There was a sideline fight

Like between two players In the same team I remember that Wasn't there also a Gildon mascot That was just like an anthropomorphized plain shirt Yeah shirtie buddy Yeah My favorite New Mexico bowl story is still the year where they painted the field neon green

because it snowed in New Mexico and all the grass died. And so they spray painted it, but the decision to spray paint it came so close to the game that they had to bring in helicopters to dry the field, like to just hover. Brought to you by interlocking technology. I think for me it's the PubG Bowl.

Like what a snapshot that is. The moment, like three years after Fortnite blew up when PubG is like, you know what's going to get us back in the game? The Arizona Bowl is the 36. sixth most important bowl game. New Mexico Bowl, rather. Sorry. Arizona Bull is coming. Be patient. It is. It's very soon.

This next bowl has had about a million names, from Blockbuster to websites to cheese it, but it has a found its forever name in the Pop-Tarts Bowl. This bowl and the Mayo Bowl and a couple others are the ones that understand what it'll take for bowls to survive, expanded playoff era. What it will take is memes. Last year, normal people talked about the Pop-Tarts Bowl. Do you know how hard it is to get normal people to think about a bowl game? That doesn't happen anything in college football unless it

involves Dion Sanders or Bill Belichick. Oh, my brother texted me about it this week, and as a former football player, he tries very hard to maintain no awareness of bowl season. It has penetrated. It was completely real that normal people knew far more about the Pop-Tarts Bowl than they knew about the Alabama-Michigan Rose Bowl. Like, viewership numbers, blah, blah, blah. I'm talking about, like, if you looked on your phone and you picked a number at random and you asked them if they had seen it,

more people would have said yes about the Pop-Tarts Bowl. Pop-Tarts Bowl was, in my opinion, and I've thought about this. College football's second biggest normal people crossover meme ever. After only that time, Steve Adazio said, guys being dudes. Everybody knows that. This whole season, whenever a fan of whichever team

would, like, worry at me about, like, I don't know if we'll make the playoff. I would say, like, listen, wouldn't you rather make the Pop-Tarts bowl? And, like, every single time, they're just like, yeah, I actually would. So, like, I don't know. Maybe the Pop-Tarts Bowl should be the playoff. And, like, send the two good teams to the playoff and everyone else can compete for the Pop-Tarts. This year, you've seen the game has scaled up with three mascots and a trophy that is a toaster and so forth. And it probably has the second best non-playoff matchup, number 15, Miami.

number 18 Iowa State. Cam Ward is playing. Travis Hunter wins the Heisman. Cam Ward can win the toaster that is real. Can I throw in a bit of Miami news that I found this morning while looking for news about Miami's transfer portal? Yes, absolutely. Does it involve bears? No. That's okay. But I typed in something very bland like Miami transfer or something. And I got the following headline for, from this morning, again, we're recording on December 17th at 9 a.m. Real estate stories are very common in Miami for one reason and another. And when there's a word in a head, you ever have a word in a headline where you're just,

I was scrolling past various Miami headlines with this jumped out of me, because if there is a word where you just think, well, that doesn't belong in a sentence about this. And it's a sentence about real estate. and the phrase, sinking at unexpected rates jumped out of the new. Yeah. Dozens of luxury beachfront condos and hotels in Surfside, Bell Harbor, Miami Beach, and Sunny Isles are sinking into the ground in rates that were unexpected,

with nearly 70% of the buildings in northern and central Sunny Isles affected research by the University of Miami found. So there's a lot going on with the canes right now. You know what my first question is. What was the expected rate of sinking? Well, less than three inches, which is how much some of these buildings sank between 2016 and 2023. Cool. Awesome. So at the zoo in this town, all the bears are drop bears. In a manner of speaking, yeah.

Briefly on the football front, yes, Jason's right. Cam Ward as of now is going to play. in this game again we're recording this a little bit ahead of time so some possibly that changes but i don't i truthfully don't think it will at this point uh the story of almost every miami game is the defense because the losses and all of the close wins that you remember like how did miami pull this one out of the fire they're all defensive nightmares if you look at georgia tech syracuse louville cal and virginia tech in those games the defense gave up 6.4 yards per play. In Miami's other seven games, all wins, all pretty comfortable, that number drops

a full two yards to four point two yards per play. I have no meaningful prediction if the Miami defense is going to show up for the Pop-Tart Bowl or not. You could talk me into either direction. If they don't, Iowa State has two 1,000 yards senior receivers in Jaden Higgins and Jalen null both of whom sound like they're playing in this game as well they're pretty balanced on offense run pass and higgins is from miami originally it was not particularly well regarded as a recruit out of high school played at eastern kentucky and then transferred to iowa state i am sure he would love to just have a monster game against a bunch of players that he either knew or maybe played against or maybe had heard of whatever like i i think there is some

good imposition there and add on top of that like the idea that it's entirely possible a year maybe two years from now we wake up to a story that's like visiting recruit starts fire at ex school with pop-tart toaster trophy that's enough to keep me on the hook frankly i think they got to keep that thing plugged in at the facility all the time it'd be wrong not to yeah hey i still have the hair dryer that i got the sunbowl in 2009 and it works great why did the sunball give you a hair dryer sponsored by helen of troy that year oh okay it was in the swag bags okay well you know because the air is famously moist there so people have to yeah it's like getting a little when you miss el paso you just come home and turn the hair dryer on point it right at your face yeah give me el paso blast right in the

face. Can I request chimes? And then, Jason, can I request to jump you in line for this next bowl? I accept. Okay. Rock your body in time. This bowl reflects our society's unfulfilled need for ritual sacrifice. The Arizona Bowl features Miami of Ohio and Colorado State, and I'm only going to give you one football thing to know about it.

Colorado State's kicker is a 32-year-old Englishman with three children who is older than dad. Prescott. That's the only football thing you need to know about this game. That's it. Is he an awesome kicker? This year, not really. No, but he's 32 years old and he's English. And by God, that's why you're going to watch this bowl game. That's it. Jason, over to you. This is easily the biggest upgrade in bowl sponsor history. Going from the bar stool sports bowl to the Snoop Dog Bowl. Technically, um, gin and juice by Dre and Snoop. Apparently it's a new beverage they have named after the song you might have heard fun fact for the three years of the bar stool sports bowl era we previewed every bowl except this one and the even funner fact is that

i don't think anyone noticed not once because uh nobody watched it during that era noticed if you noticed you didn't say it to us it wasn't it wasn't on tv it wasn't on like it was on like i don't know barstool sports com or whatever but like i don't know anyone who witnessed any of this game and they didn't say a word to us about us. I'm sure there's some very clever sausages out here who are about to go, well, I noticed they didn't do that. You didn't tell us. That was a fun experiment.

Brand awareness. It's also now gotten a very big TV upgrade as it's going from some website on television. To the CW itself. The CW's only bowl game. Those two teams. Busting out the polo shirt.

Sexy Raycom. Those two teams, of course, Ryan mentioned, are eight win teams. Miami, Ohio, and your Colorado State. Rams when I say that. I'm saying my Colorado State Rams, but I don't want to brag. I want to share, of course, but yes, I got this team into a bowl game. You're welcome. Let's also note this game signifies the most incredible upset in college football history. All right. Longtime famous hip-hop recording artist Dion Sanders has had Little Wayne, Master P, offset, and Key Glock on the

sidelines at Colorado. There is almost no way any other program, let alone one of his state rivals in a lower level could beat him in the famous rapper sideline rankings, except now Colorado State will be joined by the rapper who is as famous as almost every other rapper combined. What a comeback by your Rams. Jason, the birds in your vicinity have gotten real excited since you started talking or chirping about this bull. Are you concerned that this bodes well for the Red Hawks? No, we're going to, I'm just recruiting.

I'm recruiting birds, who gives a shit what happens in the game. I'm here to bring in some talented specimens to this next recruiting class for the Ram 25. Where is it outside the bird box? Does Liberty call their recruiting class Project 2025? They do now.

With a hashtag and everything. Spencer, can I get a little podcast music, please? Podcast business. What's the business? Podcast business. It's a business. Podcast business. sometimes we've got birds

and then we sell the men that's We don't sell birds Stop telling you don't that If you visit Pre-ownedairbirds.com I can get you a bird If you want some birds I got you

It was one time and we apologized I got a bird guy Server what's the biggest bird you could get me In a week In a week? Yeah This one right here brother Woo

Woo Walked right into that one. I pulled out an American bald eagle from off camera. You notice all the second he talked to Serber about getting him a bird, Serber's accent dialed up to like 11th. That's true. That's true. He really puts some mustard on it.

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I say almost nothing because despite this garbage weather, homefield apparel.com, always has comfortable clothing. Rain, yep, just put an extra shirt on, as Spencer has explained. A hoodie can be an umbrella for your body if you want it to. That's right. Cold, buddy, we got socks, we got sweatpants, we got long-sleeves shirts, we got everything you could possibly want. Nude, put a hat on. Why not?

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a big old pallet of homefield nude homefield nude they're exciting new line my father is one of those people like Stephen Godfrey who likes the homefield branded stuff oh yeah sure and so I am getting him an assortment of basically everything Homefield

makes in charcoal because I agree with Godfrey it's scientific. The gray is the squishiest. Yeah, that's true. Also venturing into the dad hats, they've got the corduroy hat specifically for several members of my family.

Good. I hope you liked it. If you didn't, blame the full cast, honestly. Don't blame home. Yeah, I have a new relative listening to the show as of today and it's my fault because I accidentally broke contain. in a place that I shouldn't have

and a relative of mine has found out about the show via a colleague of his. Welcome aboard. I just got to say that if somebody

that I worked with walked down the hall and said, hey, do you have a brother? I would say, why do you want to know? Sure. But, you know.

Seems like a trap. I question your option. sex, Josh. He owes me $40. No matter how sloppy or off-sec, though, even you can do commerce at home field apparel. Just don't talk to your coworkers about, come on, don't do that. Never talk to your co-workers.

Oh, it's my own fault. Do you remember when I was talking about my brother having no family photos in his office but a framed picture of Dale Earnhardt? Yeah. Somebody who works on his floor listens to the show. Put it together. Put it together. It turns out that's a very specific descriptor. Hi, Nate.

It turns out that's a very specific descriptor. And he wandered down the hall to my brother and was like, hey. And I found out this morning, again, December 17th, I found out that this is happening because I got a text from my brother reading ecumenical cracker council head, Spencer Hall. Sure. I said, who gave that to you? Uh-huh. Uh, I did get to go to the home field warehouse recently. I would like to share one fun fact.

Obviously, they've got lots of their products out, lots of stuff they're working on that I'm not allowed to talk about. There was one, one pro football jersey up on the wall, and I will Venmo $10 if any of you can one-shot guess which pro football jersey it was. Wrong. That's Holly's guess. I have been there, so I am. You're refraining? I appreciate that. Yeah.

Hold on. No, don't look. No. Frank Y. Frank Whitechak, great guess, that's incorrect. No, I'm trying to remember the name of Indiana's wide receiver, kick, returner.

Antoine Randlewell? Wrong, wrong, so wrong. Jason, do you remember the answer? Nope. It's a Kyle Orton, Chicago Bears jersey. Shut. Oh, wow. Wait, wait, wait.

Jersey or Shurzy? It's a jersey. Wow. It's a Jersey, Jersey. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, that's the home field, Connor, you're welcome.

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Downloading the app? Brian? Yeah. No, you son of a bitch. I can't. Wow. Boundaries are important. Thank you.

Hey, thank you, Spencer. Also, he doesn't know how. Thank you, Spencer, for helping. This is the, this is the give a man to fish. I got my phone. There's a little app store. I can, I can download anything off the app store if I have a credit card. And your parents.

That's it. Do you think the store is little because it lives in your phone? It's little, but it shows you the whole. world, Holly, including Pricepix. Don't say my name in the middle of a sentence like I'm in trouble. I'm not in trouble. We've already outed her via the Dale Earnhardt

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Are they next to each other? That would be a surprise. No, because that's not alphabetical. Maybe move the app. Maybe by downloads. I don't know. Yeah. This sounds like a skill issue.

So I think you put it, put the Hellraiser app. Move that down with X the Everything app. And so that you don't accidentally click on either of them. And the offer code is Pinhead? Yes. full cast full cast you know

I bet they had to make a full cast of that dude's head yeah I mean that probably is what that prosthetic felt like if you touched it most of it at least other than the pins

took a look at all them spikes and you know what he said more more yeah prize picks run your game you imagine Coco Chanel looking at pinhead

and be like you know how I said take one thing off before you leave the house Maybe you did Maybe they used to be The shit hanging from it Is there just like a little hole

In one side of his head He's like, oh, she was right Used to be one more pin Maybe he had a hat Maybe he stuck a brooch in one of them Yeah, who's to say? I think a straw hat would be cool And like the pins just go right through it

Yeah, like a gardening hat It would not blow away Yeah, like a butt Elliott gardening hat But for hell Yeah You gotta keep the sun off of your head when you're in the center of the earth or whatever. The ultimate winter park.

Holly, you have this week's more or less game, yes? Today's game of more or less celebrates bowl season in a manner of speaking. We're playing a version of closest to the pin here because there are multiple price tiers available for all these games. I'm going to give you guys a bowl game and you guys are going to tell me whether it costs more or less to get into the game than it does. to park. Oh. Wow. Okay.

All right. So let's let's pick out some of our games for today. Let's go with the Fenway Bowl, which again, you're parking at, you're parking at 11 a.m. In and around Fenway Park in Boston, Massachusetts. What day of the week is that? This is Saturday, December 28th. Oh, boy. Will it cost you more or less to get into the game?

And I'm, and again, there are tears with both. So what I'm looking for is I'm looking at the cheapest available ticket, and I'm also looking at the cheapest parking within reasonable distance, right? And that's up to me because I'm in charge. Baseball stadiums are not huge compared to football stadium, so that feels like it would drive the price up. Yukon, I can't imagine, it's going to draw a ton of fans. It's not like they're getting, like, who are the Boston fans who are like,

I didn't get a chance to go to Rensler Airfield, but I'm going to go to this instead. I don't think UNC fans are going to travel. I think your best bet is Pats fans who hate this version of the Pats and want to go see Bill Belichick wearing baby blue, Tar Heel Blue rather. I'm going to say, that's Boston. Oh, God.

And don't remember, it's more, is the ticket to get into the game more or less than you're going to pay to park? I'm going to say the ticket is more, but not buy a lot. You can get into the Fenway Park, Fenway Bowl right now. Yeah. This is, again, this is 11 days out.

The cheapest ticket available right now is $46. Okay. The cheapest parking I can find within a several block radius is currently going for 65. Shit! You said 46 and I thought I was golden. I thought I was sent. I know. I know.

Oh, Joe Biden. you know what's a lot of fun by the way if you get croger points for gas and it takes your gas off at the pump is to take a picture of you getting your like dollar gas and then post it on facebook and just say thanks joe biden i've been doing this for like eight months sometimes i'll do it on my mom's facebook page anyway we we love social media um this is also how i found out out that my most problematic uncle really dislikes glitter and I hope that by now he's received my gift. Did you know you can just mail like a five pound bag of loose glitter? Yes, I did know that.

I haven't done it, but I am aware that that's the thing. Anyway. How loose? Loose. I mean like it's just a plastic bag with nothing but glitter in it. So it's not just like glitter really a handful of glitter. No, but like a single layer prophylact.

of glitter. I bet if you got the FedEx guy's name and Venmo, you could convince them like, hey, go throw this in his face for 50 bucks. Throw it real hard on his step. Yeah. Spike the glitter. Let's play one more round of more or less before we return to our game. Let's go. Let's go across town. I think this is like, as I said, on Blue Sky, I think this is like about a half hour away. Let's go to Yankee Stadium in the Bronx on the same day an hour later for Boston College and Nebraska in the bad

boy mowers pinstripe bowl Jason are you going to pay more or less to get into the game than you are going to pay to park and I will tell you that this one is very close so there are no parking spaces

in New York City everyone rides on the train as I understand So I would imagine there's only That's the other way That is the only option But there's only one parking space for either You can't

That is true because I will tell you The closest parking available Via the Pinstryte Bowl website Is one, two, three, four Five blocks for Yankees Street Cool, cool, awesome Yeah so it's going to be Unfortunately I'm sure the weather will be nice

It's going to be a bitterly contested parking space Um BC fans Eh who cares But Nebraska fans have been waiting a lot long time for a postseason trip i mean i would it would be smart of them to invest their travel sports money in their you know volleyball program which you know is is really good but they like football so i don't know maybe they'll show up but i don't think enough of them will show up i think

that one parking space is going to be um more than the football ticket it's more but it's just barely. Tickets to get in to the Pennstripe Bowl, uh, 11 days out are $51. The five block away parking in the first concourse plaza garage is $56. Hmm.

So much money to go see Nebraska play football in a baseball stadium. But when are they going to get to another ball game, Ryan? You never know. Louisiana Tech did this year. You never know. You never know. That's a big world.

It's a lot of bull games. Yeah, they just need to hire a Cajun. Again, and shoot, you know what? We're recording this 11 days out. We shouldn't really say in December for pre-recorded episodes that any G5 coach is still the coach of his team. That's true. The Wake Forest job is open and it beckons. We should beat everyone's the punch.

Desormo, get up there, get a stew going. Should just say every group of five teams coach turned over. Be like, yeah, they've been fired. We just did that. We know that. didn't well charles heft didn't get fired he quit it's true that's right he's so go to fucking charlotte i like right now it's charles lit now taking the wake forest job it's just openly like i'm hunting bellichick yeah right i'm gonna go get him oh who could we get as a wait this is where

we just get joe judge to take the wake forest job mm-hmm oh i kind of keithed them all in like a have a trail. Coach Judge, can you spell Wake Forest? Fuck you, man. Eric Mangini. Where is he at? Something about Eric Mangini

tells me he appreciates a gated community. This was, I asked this question the other day on Blue Sky and Rex Ryan was the answer overwhelmingly that people

gave me. Mangini was up there as well because they famously fought I think once at the facilities. But Rex Ryan, attention getting Wake Forest football coach would be like,

yeah. That is a gimmick I would go for. Do you have much college? players would love Rex coming in being like who's got big nuts that's it Rex probably like they fucking love him they'd be like what's the plan coach what's your skin what you're gonna get me the ball and he'd be like big nuts coach coach do I have to go to class ever again only if your nuts are small that's the clip that sticks with me from hard knocks with the jets if you'll remember he's on the stairmaster and there's like three or four other

coaches on the like stairmaster or they're on the those ellipticals they're on the elliptical with him and he looks everyone goes yeah look at all these sexy sons of things working out yeah they're just a bunch of fat guys and i was like i love you so much i could see why coaches are like yeah we average 13 points a game and and we were 500 and i've never had more fun in my life never listen have the jets gotten any better since they got rid of him no not even a little they suck they go and get oh i'm a smart football boy and And I believe, no, you need big nuts. That's it.

That was as far as we know, the apex of the Jets for our entire lives. Yes. Because they're not any better at football and they're not having any fun. Does that like fun? No. Also, Dave Closson did a great job at Wake Forest, but I, you know, they only say hire the opposite. I have found the opposite of Dave Closson. We're not, we're not going to do the holding the football together as we walk down the hallway.

shit, we're going to run a guy face first but no one's something dead with the New York Jets. If you want to go real far back, Wake Forest is also to somehow the only school that we have ever covered a nude photo scandal by one of the players themselves. That's true, Riley Skinner, yeah.

So maybe I don't know if Riley Skinner went into private equities, he went to Wake Forest and that is kind of their thing, but if he is, maybe he could endow a chair for Rex Ryan. But the Big Nuts, D.C. That's your job. I'm sorry I said in Dow. I feel bad about that already. A big chair for me to rest my nuts on.

My big butt and my big nuts. Not slow mesh, fast crash. Fast crash is our new play. We're like fat crack. Bad nut, bad nut mowers. Or like fat crack. All right, technically we need to get out a podcast business. Oh yeah, we're selling a lot of stuff right now.

Sponsored by Big Nuts. That's Rex Ryan for Wake Forest.com. Listen, somebody at Wake Forest, please tell me you're listening to this, and you're like, look it, why not? Who cares? This is the most lucrative advertising segment we've had all season. Technically, that's true. I bet Rex Ryan would take this job for $600,000.

And if you might have $600,000 and no dress code. And Rex Ryan is taking this job. As long as he only has to show up like 10 times. Yeah. In addition to football games, I guess. games that's it well because you know i got to record the sunday show yeah i mean if you fucking dog gotley was out here podcasting like hours before basketball games this is a better idea than that fine and then dave dorr looks up and he's like what the fuck how am i playing bill bill

did you all see dug got me get put in a trash compactor by adam shaftor yeah by schfter of all things yeah yeah it's a cold world out there okay spencer can you imagine i'm sorry what more than that can you look down and be like, where's Rex Ryan on the sidelines and you just see his fucking veneers down there? You just see his big horse size veneers beaming. Like the Astronomicon and the darkness down there.

You talk about a cultural fit. I fucking love this idea. They'd be like, is he going to win us titles? Is he going to get us back to the ACC championship game? No, he's going to rock dude. He's going to rock. He's going to rock. He's got his teeth in turkey just like my dad. And then

And then Duke's like, I guess we have to hire Joe Philbin or some other dolphins washout. I don't even know what's happening. Why are we making the AMC East and the ACC? Where is Jim Caldwell right now? Oh, that's a great question. He's a quiet guy. He's probably in Winston-Salem because when he lost the Colt's job, yeah, when he lost the Colts job, he was here all the time coming in the fresh market when I worked there.

He's close, but for bona fide reasons. He is a senior assistant for the Carolina Panthers. Sure. Of course. All right. It actually makes, he is actually the perfect answer to who should be Wake Forest Coach. God.

All time Wake Forest Coach. Yeah. They love him. Yeah. Like, they really, really, really love him. And he's not pretty, he is awesome. He was pretty, listen, he was good at weight. Okay.

Yeah. But big nuts. On the other hand. Too big for your hand. I got a armload of the thing Sam Cassell nuts for you Coach why are we staying at the Hampton Inn The breakfast! The breakfast! They're free!

You'll give you a bag of cookies? I don't think you can take the Waffle Maker Doesn't say you can't! I want it! I'm going to take a dog out while you guys are starting on this one. Hold on. Big nuts! Take a dog out.

euphemism for like taking a shit the go bowling military bowl yeah no shit we're all going bowling it's bowl season dumb ass

as we probably noted last year I'm not going to go back to listen to whatever we said last year this is not sponsored by a chain of bowling alleys but rather sponsored by the concept of bowling alleys can I tell you the good news about

it's the bowling lobby yeah bowling burns two Calories per hour. Big gutter. Big gutter is sponsoring this game. Speaking of big gutter, Spencer's going to go, what did we say he was doing? Just take the dog out.

Yeah. Along with the Potato Bowl, this is one of the very few true throwback sponsors. Back to the days when football games were sponsored by the soybean industry and the rice concern and the pistachio conglomerate. While we're legislating, can every bowl game

just have to be named by the chief export of that state? Sure. As always, the military bowl being on Navy's football field is a reminder that it was the woke libs who started putting politics into college football. Yeah, it's the fucking military. You know, like, buy stock in it or something when you watch this game.

Like, buy some merch. I don't know what the... Got a bowling alley. But go bowling at the military. Bomb a bowling alley. Sure, they might. They probably have quite a few times. yeah uh this is a i think this is a fun matchup between eastern carolina and nc state

nc state leads this series 1913 all time this is going to be the fifth different ecu head coach that dave doran has faced in his time at nc state you think he just calls them all one name now yeah steve they're all steve yeah um a win will tie him with chucamato for the most bull wins at NC State. I mostly, though, want to talk about the head coach of the Pirates, the interim coach who got the full-time job, Blake Harrell. This dude is North Carolina as hell. Post-graduation from Western Carolina, he's 45 years old.

His name is Blake. He has only spent six years not working in North Carolina. Five of them were at the Citadel, and the other one was one year as the defensive coordinator, at Kennesaw State immediately after which he was like uh-uh gotta go back to the Carolinas don't like George is too different to foreign country down here it's like an amphibious creature who's been underwater just a little too long yes yes yes so just like frog you got to breathe Blake Carroll which also feels like the most like create a unc small forward name

slash state senator or state yes like the it's an aggressively North Carolina name starts finish. He's an aggressively North Carolina dude, and this will be, the winner of this is king of the state. I think that's the only fair outcome here, right? I think the winner of this is the, they're the fan base that gets to spend the, to complain the loudest about how famous UNC is. That's what I think, you know, NC State and ECU, the thing they have in common is they are tired of hearing about UNC. And like, I don't know, man, look on the bright side. You didn't hire consecutive 72 year olds as head coach. You have that going for you. What if we really put the fear of God in them and say the loser of this game has to drive to the rival to the next time they play?

Because they're like nine hours apart. Do you think there would be one side that would take pride in that? Be like, if we can do that ride. Have you ever driven to East Carolina? I have not. You wouldn't ask that question if you had. Okay. Okay.

I do like that we have the pirate team playing at Navy Stadium. It feels like, hey, guys, you had one job. Buckingneers. Yep. It's time for the Valero Valero Alamo Bowl. Valalamo. It's some gas station sponsor. It's been there since 2007,

same warehouse stadium, blah, blah, blah. Really the only lore here would just be to repeat that, like, you know, this game has a lot of big, weird numbers and its results. We've covered all that stuff. And, like, really, they need to change sponsors so that we have something new to say when we do these each year. This year it's BYU, Colorado. If Spencer were here, I would ask him if those teams are in the same conference.

Hey Spencer There he is No he's gone Hold on We'll be patient There he is Folks this isn't Wait for it

What do you think he'll say Do you think he'll get it right Wait no Yes I do think you He'll get it right But I have a follow-up question I know he won't care Spencer

Hey Spencer I have a question for you Sure Are BYU in Colorado In the same conference Yes Yes All right Here's the follow-up question

If they're in the same conference Why are they playing each other In the Alamo Bowl Because they can boring that's it that's it because traditionally the Alamo Bowl when Alamo Bowl has pulled

the most mobile free spending fan bases and that's naturally why you pull BYU sure man wrong wrong do you want they'll bring 20 dollars in the 10 commandments to San Antonio and break neither do you want to know the real answer because it's real weird

yeah sure what is it So this used to be a PAC-12 Big 12 match-up for years. Pack-12 obviously does not functionally exist for most purposes, at least right now. For this year or next year, the Alamo Bowl decided to keep two pools from which

they would draw an eligible team. One was the Big 12 pool, but it's not everybody in the Big 12. It's basically everybody who was in the Big 12 before this most recent round of conference realignment. The other one is the PAC-12 group, which is the entire Pac-12, the Big 10 schools, the A-C-10 schools,

the ACC schools, Oregon State and Wazoo, and all the Pact-12 schools that are in the Big 12. So even though Colorado is a Big 12 school with BYU, BYU is getting the Big 12 bid to this game, and Colorado is getting the Pact-12 bid to this game. This is one of the weirdest things possible. Honestly, God, if you'd ask me right there, I would have said Colorado's in the Big Ten. It's a reasonable confusion at this point. I refuse to learn at this point until everybody settles down. It is a baffling.

I shouldn't have to know this. It is mostly baffling because somehow amongst all the parties that could not get the Pact 12 to agree on anything, the Alamo Bowl was the one thing. The Alamo Bowl was the one that was like, yes, from USC down to Arizona State to Washington State, we all agree that the Alamo Bull bid is the one thing we will keep from this conference going forward for a little while. What you're saying is everyone was required to remember the Alamo Bowl. That's correct. These teams have not played each other this season because conferences are way too fucking big. Yep. Travis Hunter says he's playing in this game.

Dion Sanders says everybody on his team is playing at this game. And if you opt out of a bowl game, you are a coward and a quitter. That's paraphrasing, mostly, though. Is it paraphrasing? Lightly. um i would say maybe outside of the pop tart bowl at least of the games are we're doing on this episode this is one of the better chances a non-playoff outside of the playoff that a chance has for a team to get a big win like Colorado was much better this year under deion Sanders they still have

mostly beaten middle of the road or bad teams part of why they were better this year is that the schedule was significantly easier than it was last year in impact 12 so if they beat a ranked double-digit win BYU team that would represent like a pretty good step forward for Colorado, which is a thing they continue to need. And on the other side of it, BYU could beat the Heisman winner and potentially one of the top quarterback draft picks in the NFL draft. That feels like that would be very good for Kalani Sataki and his program. So like a lot of good intrigue here, even though it's a conference game that's not a conference game at a bowl game. Yeah, I think this is the best non-playoff bowl game.

Without a toaster. Probably, well, if you factor in meme material, then... Without a toaster, but in a stadium that looks like if Escape from New York had a laser tag franchise. This is probably better than multiple of the playoff games, at least on paper. Okay. I think that's right. I'm really looking forward to Shiloh Sanders, because Shiloh Sanders just is doing stuff out there. Yeah. It's the most doing stuff out there player in college football.

appreciate him. And somehow going under heralded because of who he's surrounded by. Sure. I just love that, you know, after all these years of late, the kids are skipping bowls and like the newfangled blah, blah, blah, back in my day, shit. The team that's doing blue collar, back to basics, old school, stand by, your dear old alma mater football is Colorado Buffalo. Dion Sanders, the only old school coach in all of college football.

Holding it down. You know, holding it down like a homesteader. Yeah, that's true. Manifest Destiny in the West. The Radiance Technologies Independence Bowl. This is the one where you look up what this company does and it auto fills like X dead in Pakistani wedding. Yeah, this is another sponsor.

We've been around for a few years that we've probably talked about several times without ever really figuring out what it does. Like their website says, what we do, and one of the first things is cyber. and I'm like, okay, I did that on Instant Messenger when I was 14. I didn't have to invite Louisiana Tech. And also, you know, yeah, Louisiana Tech is here in Shreveport. Marshall has disconnected.

This is both seasons third straight year with a five and seven team because half of Marshall's team transferred out because the school didn't agree to a long-term contract with the coach who's now starting over at Southern Miss. There's too much going on. There's too many plot lines here, Conference USA. say. I just like, so days ago, the Independence Bowl was like, oh, holy shit, we have a matchup between the AAC champ and the Conference USA champ. We are one of the most important bowl games. And then now instead, it has a game between the Army team that got blown out by the only team it cares about beating and a five and seven Louisiana Tech. So like it's gone from, I don't know, it might have been a top 10 bowl outside of the playoff. Outside the

playoff, certainly. It might have been a top five bowl outside the playoff. It's gone down to bottom five. I think this is a top 10 bowl for all the wrong reasons with top 10 bowl. It just shows you like the weird thing about one of the weird things about bull season. There's no reason to just say it's one is that if you have a team just be like yeah we can't play

there's not a system to be like okay everybody on like in this conference move up one slot. There's no way to sort of say like okay you know we're going to we're going to go and get we're going to go and take Louisiana and say, okay, you were the runner up, you're going to go ahead and play this.

I mean, it's certainly close enough. Like, you can go play this game. It's like, nope, wherever you are in the bull pecking order, five and seven team, who agrees to it? Like, I think if you look through the five and seven teams through APR, the way that they usually decide, like, who gets to go through this, it feels like a lot of teams were like, yeah. We, A, we don't want to go to the Independence Bowl. B, we don't want to play Army. Playing Army is not fun. We're not agreeing to that shit.

So I don't know how far down the list, but I don't think Lotech was the first team that they called. No. They went in order. They were the closest. Yes. Like, at some point, it has to factor into if you're a bowl committee and you're like, well, they're really good, but their coach is a little too good. And once he leaves, all the players are going to leave. So, ugh, we can't risk taking that.

really good team it's weird it's so it's so funny to me though that this was really like can they drive there that was really what this came down to they're like this is staying together with your high school girlfriend a little too long because you're going to you live in neighboring dorms just because you went to the same college it's just a bus ticket that's all um Louisiana tech is 129th in offensive f plus they do have one of the nations better rushing defenses they're pretty turnover prone, I am fairly concerned for the Bulldogs. Like, I think there is a path where they can, like, play the kind of sort of, like, slow, grimy games that Army often likes to play, but I think there's also a version of

this where it's like, oh, right, this is why you weren't Bull eligible. If Army wins, and they finish ranked in the top 25, which is not a guarantee, since they now will have beat a five-and-seven team instead of a conference champion, that would be only the third time that Army finishes the year ranked since 1960. And if they don't, it's because Marshall didn't want good things to happen to Army.

You heard it here first. Wow. The Marshall law, truly, truly has failed. Troops, Marshall. It's time for another ball game. I'm going to talk for a minute, and you're going to listen. Here we go.

In Genesis chapter one, we are told that God created the day and the night, we could picture as sunrise and sunset or as noon and midnight or as any number of other combos because we are not told that God created two specific times of day and didn't create any other times of day. Day and night flow into and out of each other, after all, and depending on your perspective and what the sky looks like and how you're feeling, the time right now could be either day or night or both day and night at the same time or even neither day nor

night. In fact, think of all the times when you've woken up from a long nap and you've been led to believe by the world around you that you are living in the night, but then you came to your senses and you discovered that you are actually living in the opposite. You realize the world around you had been lying to you about your place in the universe, but it takes time to adjust to the light, and that time is the process of your body attuning to the universe, despite that moment when the world had urged you to remain in darkness. Also in Genesis 1, we are told that God created male and female, and since we already know that God created day and night and every time in between and that those times flow into each other and God is present

here and there and everywhere else, and God is the God of now and then and everything before and after, then we can deduce that Genesis 1 tells us God is also the God of every other gender as well, which includes people who have been told by the world that they are of one gender when in fact the universe created them as one of another. So yes, God made trans people, God saw that they are very good, and they are joining the rest of us in the process of the universe becoming perfect. City Bowl, Transperfect. Number 19, Missouri is a three-point favorite against Iowa. Preach!

In the last decade, the only time Kirk Ferrence didn't lead Iowa to eight wins was the COVID year. When they only played eight games and Iowa still went six and two. They're already had eight wins this year, but just a moment, too. As much as sometimes it's just so, so stinky to watch, Iowa does win a shitload of football games. There is a lot to be said for that, and we should acknowledge that. That said, Iowa has not beaten a ranked team since their 2021 defeat of Penn State. They've played a number of ranked teams since then, but this would be a chance to get one more in that column that they haven't seen for a little while. Mizzou, I mean, holding on for dearly.

This is just a weird year for Mizzou. Your tone really just conveys all of it. Like, on the one hand, I kind of want to say, You didn't have Georgia on the schedule. You didn't have Texas on the schedule. It feels like there was maybe an opportunity here to maybe not win or even play for the SEC champion, but championship. But certainly. You didn't have Georgia on the schedule.

You didn't have Texas on the schedule. Didn't have Tennessee on the schedule. No, that's not where I was going at all. I mean, they had BAM on the schedule. That didn't go well. They had A&M on the schedule. That didn't go well. And they had South Carolina on the schedule.

There's your problem. Even in the wins, though, like, This was a team that was holding on for dear life. They needed a fourth quarter comeback to beat Auburn. They scored, let's not forget, they scored two touchdowns in the last 63 seconds of the game to beat Oklahoma. They took, Vanderbilt took them to overtime. And at the same time, if Missou wins the Music City Bowl, they will have won 10 games in consecutive years for the first time since that 2013-2014 back-to-back SEC East titles. I don't know, like, is Eli Drenkowitz trapped in this job?

Maybe. But on the other side, he'll just go talk to Kirk Farrants, and he'll say, it's pretty sweet, man. It's a pretty sweet gig, all told. Occasionally, you'll get talked about for the Chicago Bears job. But nobody wants that. So just stay at Missou the whole time, and you'll be fine. I think Eli looks like a wake for us, coach, visually.

Yeah. yeah you know i beat bellichick so i must be better than him i could see him in that post game presser he's got that his his face has that kind of tight look that says like i have money enough to know what procedures i should get but not necessarily enough to pay for the best you think he would say mama called because it's back to north carolina and everyone's like you don't have a connection to like okay mama's neighbor called somebody's mom called now that that however is Rex Ryan's reason for showing up

your mother called so I showed up buddy hot hot mom called oh my god okay in all that minute in all those many hours we spent that we cut out of the final edit of talking about Rex Ryan at Wake Forest we did not once consider the living room scenario of Wake Forest which I think lest there be any doubt remaining in your mind this has got to put it over the top

is it going to offend you if I say I bone your mom I'd bone your mom she's right here coach I believe it'd be a direct ma'am you see you see your feet pretty feet yeah I got a foot in the door yeah yeah I do buddy

so there I was taking the demon deacons motorcycle and putting your mom on the back of it wheeling around that little stadium in the middle of the door she's got needs you know what she deserves no she deserves this