Shutdown Fullcast - 40x40(?) Les McMiserables Original Broadway Cast Album

Episode Date: January 8, 2025

To ring in both the new year and the semifinal round of the college football playoff, let's examine the carceral state through the lens of McDonaldlandTechnically this episode is supposed to be previewing the Orange and Cotton Bowls. Let's see how that goesList of churches where you can probably smoke indoorsAnnouncing our next bookHere's where to send your submissions for our upcoming live show in Atlanta: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1-RO3RXmN98fYnkeNBrfI6tqXcV7MOnhXC0q7E7Lbz7k/viewformFullcast theme song arranged and performed by Corey CunninghamListen to Ryan's other, less harrowing show, We're Not All Like This, and check out his new narrative podcast with Steven Godfrey, Who Killed College Football? https://www.wkcfb.com/Check out Jason's free CFB Watch Grid newsletter and other work: https://www.jasonkirk.fyi/Find Holly and Spencer writing and chirping at https://channel-6.ghost.io/Purchase only the finest Fullcast gear at sunny https://preownedairboats.com/

Welcome to the shutdown. Welcome to the shutdown full cast. You are listening to the Internet's only college football podcast. I am Spencer Hall, joined as I am every week by Ryan Nanny, Jason Kirk, Holly Anderson, and all the ones, and two's Michael Serber. Help, help, snowstorm. Oh, my gosh. Are we getting snow? No.

No? I mean, technically we got like four flurries yesterday. Y'all got flurries? Are you all right? I mean, it lasted a few moments, so you might have. You just might have not seen it. But, yeah, it technically has snowed. It's new.

And since I know we have a lot of listeners in Big Ten country and the national champion Missouri Valley conference country, yeah, all snow is the same. So we've got the same amount of snow as you did, which means we are as tough and as moral as you are. And there's no way you can impress us with your weather because we've already survived the worst of it. That's true. I'm out here driving effectively in the snow. It's easy. Oh, Spencer, you got a Subaru. They can't say shit to you. That's true. Really, the first time I ever tried driving in the snow, it was very easy.

There was no challenge to it at all. I don't even think it was worth bragging about it. That's how easy it was. I mean, I prefer it to be honest. I'd rather... It's just water that doesn't want it enough. It's water that doesn't want to find its level. Yeah. I mean, really isn't the sin of American capitalism, that life is too easy. I prefer a little bit of a challenge on the road, which by being a challenge, I find easy.

I'm going to remember weather on Heisman mode. That's what you sound like. Did you like your voice that I did there? You turned me into a Muppet monster, like one of the Sesame Street monsters, just the generic ones. It's otherwise perfect, but I really wish Blue Sky had voice tweets. Remember that weird period of time where you could send like a voice memo as a tweet? Mm-hmm.

Oh, that was a heady time for me. it is time to talk about Spencer let me stop you right there actually I've been intercepted what if what so folks take the end of the scenes Ryan warns Spencer this is going to happen which means Holly or I could have prepped a second counter to Ryan's interruption right now he's wondering whether that happened yeah we're just out here loving the Lord I would welcome this became a war of attrition with interruption fought interruptions. Nice try.

And never, never football is this. Hey, y'all know Nintendo Switched online has Cobra Triangle now? I don't know what Cobra Triangle is. What? Never heard of it. Wow.

You're not from Tampa. The second interruption has made some presents. I've never doubted your Floridian Providence until this moment. This is a game about Florida? Yes. Like Grand Theft Auto 6 prequel?

Oh, we didn't have an NES in my house as a kid. This is a 1988. Where classic, my son. But were you a Genesis house? No, we didn't have any video games in my house until I was like, Nintendo 64 was the first system we got. Yeah, and see how you turned out.

Holy crap, you had no immunity. That had to be like, going straight from like elementary school candy to heroin. You went straight to NFL quarterback 98 and like, oh my God, it's so real. Nothing could look real. You went straight to like Metal Gear era and you were like, my God. My God. This is as real as a game. Ryan Nanny's European mind

Cannot comprehend Mario's lost levels. His face is just as polygonal as John Madden's really is. That is what Dr. Doak looks like. That is what he looks like. That's the real Brett Farr. Oh my God. Was that the original so close that is a shape?

Yeah. Wow. Spencer, you're familiar with the McDonald's character, the Hamburgler, yes? We've met. And you're aware that the... Was he in rehab with your grandfather? I'm rehab with my grandfather.

You're aware that the hamburger traditionally wears what we would call old-timey prison garb, right? Yes, classic cartoon. Oi, I'm in prison, prison garb. Yeah. Right.

They give the prisoners cowboy hats or whatever that dude's wearing. It's not a cowboy hat. It's more of a like Zorro hat, right? Like, that's what I meant, like a Sonoran Spanish Southwestern cowboy hat. Okay, so let's put

is hamburger Mexican American off to the side over here we'll come back to that Spencer off the top of your head like Baja California yeah yeah

Spencer what is the Although it would be further north if you're talking about the gold rush Spencer folks Spencer just put his head down in exasperation which is not something

I've ever seen him do Mike Leach is channeling Holly right is channeling through Holly's mind so like I said the Portuguese headware It's a different thing Funny thing about Hemingway's time in Paris.

People misunderstand the gauchos. That's the first thing we have to establish. You think the pants were named for them, but it was actually the other way around. Spencer, what, off the top of your head, I don't want you think about this too hard. What is the hamburger's crime that he would have committed? Theft.

Not burglary? Not, mm. No, let's go with theft. That's fine. Do we know it's not? Robbery. Spencer. You familiar with the character

Mayor McChese in the McDonald-Land canon? A corrupt brigand, yes. What is Mayor McChese? Can you describe him to the audience in this classically visual medium? Mayor McChise is a figure

with a tremendous two to three foot wide hamburger for a head. Double stack. It's double, I believe. and with eyes on that horrifying meat skull thing he has going on. Carapace, yeah.

Why can't I picture Merrimocheese? It's perched atop a man's body which is clad in a kind of 1900s Fonda Cieckla kind of mayoral garb. Maybe picture an edible toad. A man of import. Deviant art. Right?

Yeah. Wait, okay, Ryan, I have something different. I have a different problem. Yeah, sure. I swear to God, I've never seen Merrimich cheese. Mermer McCheese? Like, I'm looking at a picture right now, and I have zero memory of this guy. Okay, that's all right.

We're all on this journey together. But, like, I know who, like, grimaces and shit. Sure. Spencer, is it fair to say that Merr McCheese is an anthropomorphized hamburger? Yes. So, in the canon of McDonald's land, is it possible that instead of some Jean-Valiener Jean, simply hungry man who craves a hamburger

in a time where there's plenty and we can get into the moral debate. I stole the mayor to feed my kids. Is the hamburger actually guilty of kidnapping? Is he kidnapping sentient hamburgers and performing God

knows what torture upon them? And is he in fact a much darker and more disturbing villain than we were led to believe? You robbed a house, I broke the mayor's neck. However, this is a mayor we're talking about. So is this justified?

Yeah, there are no good mayor. All mayors are bastards. I'm going to say this. I will excuse, because I assume the hamburger is a person. I think, yeah, that reads. Granted, granted. Okay, wow. The epistemology has gone to new levels.

I'm not Peter Singer. So I believe that we don't really owe other species necessarily a uniform code of respect, right? I'm pretty sure he and Ronald are the only two humans in the group, but yeah. Right. So realistically, if it comes down to the hamburger's survival, and I am saying he probably did need to steal those hamburgers to eat and therefore live, I don't think he's guilty of any crime here. Even if it's cannibalism, even if it's kidnapping and cannibalism. Now, if it's cannibalism, yes, but I don't think that's the way this universe is laid out

because I would have to accept that the hamburger and Mayor-McChease are the same species. And I don't think that's true. Why? Why would you believe that? Because that would mean that the hamburger would also have a hamburger for a head and that he would, by definition, consider killing himself if he were hungry enough. Okay, but. Now, he may be a cannibal. That's fine.

But categorically, I have to assume their different species. I don't think he would kill himself because he was so hungry. He would not be able to then consume himself. I believe he would be so upset with the prospect of his unrelenting hunger and no way to satiate it. Therefore, that would be the reasoning for his suicide. Just my one note on your... I think the only scenario in which he could realistically eat himself would be one that involved time travel and doubling, where he ate

he traveled back in time because he was so hungry that the only choice he had was to eat his own head. Wouldn't he have to travel forward in time? This is a great theoretical question, Ryan. Let's go both ways to see which one gets there first. The Hamburgoroboros.

Now, I'm looking at the McDonaldlandfandom.com right now and did you know Grimmis was also originally a villain called Evil Grimmis? Namewise, I guess that makes sense. He was the hamburger of milkshakes. That's his inspiration is a guy who, milkshake addict.

So TikTok trend suddenly makes us, wait, do any of these guys have wives? Are we, is there any way we could be in for like McDonald's-themed boxing Helena situation? I'm not sure. It does Grimmis have a gender?

I'm not sure if, as a starting point, at least, if that's a factor. I love you so much that we turn into a big DLT. Right? There is also one other burger-fied human in the McDonald's and that's Officer Big Mac.

Yeah, down with him as well. So, Mayor McChese could, Officer Big Mac is basically the Big Mac version, Big Mac cop version of Merrick Cheez. They're very similar. So, Mar-Michie's driven to Hunger Madness, could murder any Officer Big Mac. With what strength?

This crime ring is even bigger. There's also Captain Crook. who I'd never seen. This is the hamburger of Filia Fish and the main enemy of Officer Big Mac, which... What a coterie of villains! Take that Batman universe!

This rogues gallery. I'd argue this is probably as well delineated and characterized as the DC universe. There is an Irish grimace called Uncle O'Grimacy. Uncle O'Grimmacy, yeah. Wow. Wait, is it still spelled the same?

have like a y on the end there is a why on the end okay so we're not in like an italian grimace situation no no this is specifically for the shamrock shake i believe there at one as in the in the 70s there were macdonald's characters called the trash cans they were just talking trash cans that's it interesting i think they were like teaching children how to dispose of waste so so if if officer big mac is the head of the police, the carcceral state in McDonald's Land. Sure, sure. And Mayor McChese is the head of local government.

Where does Ronald, like, what is Ronald's place in all of this? He's just a guy trying to get by. He's just a guy? He's just a clown man, stuck. A guy trying to you. He's trying not to break his code. He's trying not to kill, but day by day, he's being driven to it toward it by his trauma. I think, I think McDonald's actually presents a haunting.

binary for all humans, which is that you can either become a clown or you become a brigand. You live long enough to be a brigand. Now, where does Mac the Moon fit in all? Oh, Matt Tonight? Matt Tonight? I wish you could see Ryan's face light up when Mac Tonight came up. This is the happiest I have ever seen him. Mac Tonight is the sexual id of the McDonald's. Now, let me also bring this up. I've found the best member of this rogues gallery this one was only around for it looks like three years

this is another criminal who was devoted to stealing just one item from McDonald's menu if I were to tell you anyone who doesn't know already the name of the villain who stole McGrittles what name would you give that menu item too okay

gribly fingers think as dumb as possible Dumbled Dumber than that Yeah, well, but so dumb, it's beautiful. Grib-grib-grib-grab? Grib-grab. The gridler.

The grid. God, damn it. No, he was right. Dumber than that. I asked, and my question has been answered. I feel like Spencer was about to say it. I was. I didn't want to say it because people would be like, you're lying.

Were you going to guess or did you know? No, I was going to guess. I knew it in my bones. my stupid mouth was slow what other what other mcgrittled based things do you know in your bones i don't know the truth reveals itself one sentence at a time this makes me feel bad for the menu items that are not worth their own villain that can only be acquired via currency that's right or that nobody wants to defend i don't know like a chicken wrap is just like overtly sexual yeah no you know no mcdonald lame character who's like i love the breakfast bagels best

Give them to me. They have bagels. They used to. I don't know if they still do. Let me just tell you. The bagler is not a term that I think could probably go out there without some negative blowback. Hey, you're all going to roll up and poke a hole in it.

Jerry bagler? You don't think he's a good character? It appears there is no villain of the McRibb, which that makes sense, man. You can't have a seasonal villain. That's why. I think the villain of the McRib is Ronald. Oh. And we've yet to figure that, like, he's getting away with it this all time.

Or is that why it goes away? Well, that and like some man in the mirror shit, right? Like, who do we ultimately have to blame slash credit for this whole McRib situation ourselves? So I think the McRib is actually the meat of Mayor McChese's offspring sold back to McDonald's by the hamburger. This is his routine. This is why the McRibb... It's a kickback scheme. It's a kickback scheme.

Also, I haven't set foot into McDonald's, and I want to say, like, 19 years. Yeah. And I feel like I've retained an alarming amount of lore even not being able to remember half these things. I think that's true. I didn't know it was as deep. Here's a reference that I understand from another show I've never seen. Apparently there's a Simpsons episode where Homer takes like a winemaking course

and forgets how to drive because his brain is full and stuff just starts falling out. Sure. I need like what what have I not retained that I could have self-selected to keep instead of this information? Cherish childhood and family memories is the answer. Also, it's weird that Birdie is there because the burger characters are about a processed meat world. There's no cow casually hanging around. There's no extruded paste. Right, right.

But Birdie is a poultryish animal. No idea what kind of bird this actually is. Should be called birdish. Is Bertie aware that they are slaughtering and killing chickens to make various, like, Quisling. Because the McNuggett kids are real, too. Wait, wait. So is Bertie like a Vichy?

Yeah, Birdie is a Vichy chicken. Trader. Okay. Trader to her kind. Class theater, got it. Well, according to the lore, she spawned, an egg fell from the sky into McDonald's one day and was adopted by Ronald McDonald's. So she might not know she's a bird.

She might have been raised as a clown. Holy shit. That's literally Sweeney Todd. This is half the plot of Sweeney Todd. So I have a related, a related storyline to Sweeney Todd that I just figured it out because Ryan claims that Mac Tonight, the man with the... The sexual id of McDonald's... I think it goes past that, Ryan, because... How times can we work that phrase into it?

I think that Mac Tonight is the dark passenger for Ronald McDonald. Sexual ads come in many forms. Because what song is Mac Tonight singing when Mac Tonight comes in and says, Stay up late and hunt for meat. What is he singing, Ryan? Is that what he says? Well, Mac Tonight was... He's paraphrasing.

Paraphrasing. Metatextually with Mac Tonight meant... Abandoned sleep. Feed your flesh craving. That was it. That's literally it. The whole thing was made to get people getting dinner at McDonald's, right? So at night, Ronald McDonald's is vampiric.

Yes. Red Sky at night Hamburgerer's Delight Spencer I don't remember the song What song? You do know this song Sing it for us Oh the shark Oh Mac the Knife

Which is about what Ryan Which is about a song About Jack the Ripper Yeah sure It's about murder Because do you guys Oh man

You have opened Spencer's open to crate He's not aware of opening And that crate is labeled The Three Penny Opera Yep the three penny No I was ready I was ready if you just hop on some Brecht here

But considers that Ronald, Ronald representing the American Burger Consciousness sitting there at 6 or 7 p.m. going, I think I'm going to settle down. Maybe you have some soup. Maybe just a calm night at home. And all of a sudden, in his head, the voice starts, you need to go kill. Here I am. I'm the fun guy. So now what I now believe is that Ronald McDonald is Pennywise when he's not in the human world. This is where Pennywise retreats true, a place of trying to resist the, urge to use his knife teeth to shred children into tasty McDonald's food. And that's why McDonald's lures children in the same

way that Pennywise would. We all float down here. And six weeks later, guess what you hear on your airwaves? My grape is back. Oh, God. Listeners, I know many of you have worked at McDonald's.

speak you know lots of people have if you can confirm this if you have ever closed down at McDonald's can you confirm for us that at that point Ronald McDonald turns to the camera and says I'm going to become the Joker because I believe that's what happens

or is it the clown from twisted metal one of the two they're all the same they're all the same every clown is one every clown is one you never know I mean what is what is Pennywise describing after all, but

the most tantalizing aspect of a value menu? This is so true. Pennywise, quarter pound foolish. Anyway, Spencer, what did you want to talk about? Notre Dame versus Penn State. God,

speaking of indelible clowns. Speaking of stuff that was last cool in the 80s. Hey! 7.30 p.m. That's right. That's right. Live on ESPN. What day? We don't know. Thursday, January 9th.

From the Orange Bowl. I love, I always forget that the Orange Bowl exists. It is the one bowl game that they start playing, and I'm like, oh, they're playing that in Miami. That's crazy. air very much permeates the event itself the orange and the cotton being the two that these other teams play their way into it might be the funniest parent because like the fiesta okay overall historical prestige wise is um that or the peach is the runt of this litter probably the peach but the peach is in like the state of the art stadium that's host of chambers we went in whatever the fiesta at least

has golf the the fiesta at least has an identity it has a wacky identity with lots of memorable games like the cotton bowl let's be honest here it's a game the orange bowl it's more of the the stadium was famous but like Miami bowl games it's it's it's very very funny to like win a an old prestigious game and play your way into like to win the Rose Bowl to play your way into the cotton that's that's very funny anyway I just this current setup is it's it's right for comedy at Notre Dame so I I was thinking about this I haven't actually done any research. That's the level of care you get on the show. Notre Dame has gone from having zero big bowl wins for 31 years to, I believe they can become the first team to ever

win two big bowls in one season. Other teams have played in multiple bowls in a season before. It's been forever. It's usually like some wartime stuff and in one of the like, very low tier knockoff novelty bowl games. And like there's lots of weird stuff in history. See, we knew there was going to be something special about this Notre Dame postseason. We knew it was going to be historical. Yeah, they've, they're making up for a lot of, uh, of, of time, much of which was spent losing big games under Brian Kelly, for one. Hmm.

I mean, they've already set the record for wins in a season, right? Yeah, this is the school record. Yeah, this is the school record for the winning as Notre Dame team. Yeah. Which is, yes, a matter of the schedule expanding to fit that number. However, they did it. It's true. Yeah.

Other teams. did not do that. Alabama did not do that. Alabama does not have 13 wins, that's for sure. Yeah, no. They might not have 13 wins over the next five years, but if we don't get Kaelin DeBurr out of there. DeBurr.

What was that? DeKalin DeBurr. Kristen Bell. What's wrong with your face? Counting the first round against Indiana. Notre Dame, let's add in that

Um, that first round game as well. A streak of three straight big game wins by Notre Dame is on the table here. That's, I don't, they didn't do that. That they haven't done that in a quarter century. Literally. They haven't done that across that quarter century. Yeah, that's fucked up. Yeah.

This is, this is supposed to be for children. I don't like it. It is, it is absolutely messed up. I do agree, by the way, it is, it is completely embarrassing, like, for the current system as it stands to be like, in round. round one, you will play an exciting on-campus, you know, game. In round two, you will play in one of the granddatties of the mall. And in round three, you will play in college footballs, Holiday Inn Express, the Orange Bowl.

Round three, you are playing in the home that Cooper Rush built. Yeah. Hey, you guys are, weren't we all there for that first playoff championship game in North Texas? Mm-hmm. Yeah. You remember how hospitable it is. that's that's that's listen we started all talking about the weather and we will continue to talk about the weather winter in texas sucks so hard it it sucks real bad in ohio state the air is mad it's mad at you i did a podcast

today where somebody asked me about whether it was a home field advantage playing in dallas and i was like you have no idea what a fraught question that is because there are people in texas who are like that one's ain't even in Texas. What are you talking about? That's a road game. On the other hand, this is Texas. So one argues, as with Notre Dame, that it's a home field advantage for them anywhere. That's true.

That's true. But also, it may be cold and windy and nasty as hell there, which is delightful. So when it comes to Miami, the Notre Dame Penn State game, who's the home team here? Penn State's the higher seed, but who's talking themselves

into having an advantage in that one? Notre Dame by virtue of snowbirds. That's true. Because I picture this is not, I picture Penn Staters based on the ones of my acquaintance as being of the retrench in the Alleghenies

during the winter months types. If you were the free radical local, if you were the floating local who has some vague, Miami Hurricanes loyalties. This is a tricky one for you because you have only the most aged beef with both teams in this rivalry. However, being a Miami Hurricanes fan, you probably don't even have the knowledge of who this team is supposed to hate, right? You probably lack that. You're just probably, Keynes! That's it. I assume the brain activity is pretty low.

It's Keynes and the section reserved for increasingly baroque homophobic slurs, yeah. Yes. So Penn State had already had the best Fiesta Bowl record. and then won another Fiesta Bull. They enter this tied for the best Orange Bowl record. They're getting a lot of favorable draws, if you believe in name of bowl, confers anything about it.

Excuse me, Florida's 4-0. I'm sorry. Sorry for taking that away from you. God damn it, Jason. Thank you. We have some little left. I do like that both of these teams got here by being dependable.

Neither of these teams got here by being like, the world beating, the indestructible, the Titanic Force of a Notre Dame team that kind of wins every game by one or two, one score or a score of a half. They only had, so their only close call was against Louisville since that week two loss. Like, they don't destroy a lot of people, but they win pretty comfortably. Headlock. This is a headlock team, right?

Put you in a headlock. See if you can get out of it. You probably can't. Yeah. If you're a lesser team, like, you know, you find yourself down by 13 and you don't. get any closer than that you know like a lesser team with with less talent and you're not as good at sports like Georgia you know you're gonna lose by two touchdowns but you're Georgia so you should be losing to that I don't really see

any total I don't think these teams are that different I know that sounds strange but in terms of their M.O neither one that there's only so many styles of football it's not that strange yeah like neither one of them is neither one of them is a the Blitzkrieg team. Neither one of them is you're like, 28 and a quarter. No, you're not going to, they're not going to do that. Like, Penn State is so, it's wild that this is finally the best match for Penn State of James Franklin's personality and personnel, right? Give me, give me two running backs.

Give me a deeply risk of first quarterback. Give me, give me a tight, who's my breaking, who's my game breaker on offense? It's a tight end. Okay, okay, cool, cool, cool, right? Is he going to stretch the field? No, is it going to be open? Yes. Is it going to be dependable as hell?

Like, James Franklin is just here, over here with, like, every CD and money market account strategy possible, and usually that'll get you to, like, okay, but it won't get you to crazy wealthy, and this year, they've just managed to hit all of this. But one of the distinctions, I think, is that Penn State tries, I think Penn State tries, I think Penn State tries to be more. I think Andy Kodlnicki calls games in a way that are more like, let's try, like, mixing it up a little bit more in ways that are often very frustrating to Penn State fans. There were definitely stretches of the Boise State game where it was just like, you could run the fucking ball.

You're getting seven yards of rush with your running back. Why are we throwing the ball at all? Why are we doing like anything even at all wrinkly? I love him because I can tell it kills James Franklin a little bit, right? Right, right. Third and one rollout, try to hit the full back in the flat. And you're like, no! And I think, I think Notre Dame does not have those including. to nearly the same degree. No. Like, I think Notre Dame is more just like, more meat on my plate.

Meat, meat, meat for me to eat. You're going to give us four yards? Okay. Okay. Okay. You say I can't eat 78 eggs? Give me, pile them up, brother. Time for Burdo to go to work.

Give you all that I can have. That eats, but whatever. Wait, yeah. My fault. That's a lot of cannibalism for one episode. Sorry. So far. Both teams are so well.

managed like they're so controlled and well managed i love that i love that you just said a james franklin team is well managed i did they are because hey serbs can we clip that clip it i agree with you because one of the times that he's really put his hand on the scale at all it's been pretty minimal there was one wild ass call in the smu game where i was like oh james got the reins oh no and it didn't work but it didn't matter but i do agree that not doing this is killing him yeah yeah that he's just like I'm not going to screw this up. Oh, God. They're off my ass for one year for this bullshit,

even though I win nine or ten games a year with my normal bullshit. So what I'm hearing is we're due for the weirdest timeout we've ever seen. We're so due for the way. What a promise. You used it at halftime? Hell. Why? We're talking about the opponent is out of timeouts.

We have the ball, and it's like third and four, and I get three yards. and James Franklin calls a timeout just after the two-minute warning. Hey, you guys, I remember those dreams where all your teeth are falling out? Hey, what do beans mean in dreams, guys? What do beans mean in real life? Hold on. I'm burning a second time out. We got a time about this.

Bring in the McDonald's bean burglar. The M. Beansler. So I feel like every fan base complains about their coach's timeout ability. like along with every fan believes that their conference has the worst refs is there a coach who's known for like oh man that's a timeout wizard the timeout specialist the time lord or is it one of those things where like if if you you know like if you don't know the refs name he's a good ref is it one of those situations where if it never comes up that's the best you can hope for I think maybe I think just like

at a conference level any like every single bowl game it's like oh there's He refs from this conference, and then that conference's fans all say, oh, you're all in for some bad shit. It doesn't matter who the conference is, though. I have what I think would be for the layperson, an unexpected answer, which would be, if I told you who the procedure genius and the Big Ten is, it's Brett Bilema. Oh, no, that's been true since the jump. So when he calls a timeout, everyone's like, wow, well struck. That's been true since that Joe Poggan. I really could go for a break now that you mention it.

Yeah. Bilema is one because Bilema knows every little tick point you're supposed to hit. He knows every little rule. And specific, not for their own sake, but so that he can annoy you with them. That's right. That's right. He's the opposite of James Franklin, who I think sometimes has to go into the mic and be like, can we do that?

I just did that. Can we do that? Is that a thing? Like if Tom Allen has had any, because by the way, they replaced both coordinators last year as well, which it's kind of wild that they replaced both coordinators, and it didn't neither of the hires bit him in the ass that's typically not what happens when you're at the stage like he's coming into like his second decade as pen state's coach second decade and usually when that happens and you replace both hires you tubberville it and one or neither of them

work out and that's not what's happened here both of them have been great but i'm convinced that's what tom allen is here for tom allen just gets in the set and goes that's weird james don't do that i love you don't do that. I love you. I see you. I hear you. Crate. James, get in your crate. Get in it. Re, forward, re, your crate. Wrong record, wrong disco, buddy. Don't do it. This dance ain't for you. Don't call that time out. He's like, oh, okay. It's like, it's like an emotional getback coach. Yeah, except for how you call the game. Hey, guys, what do you think about going forward on fourth and three from our own 15. Yeah,

that's the negative, James. He only got loose once at SMU. It didn't matter because SMU was going to hand him 9 million turnovers anyway, but that's the only time. Does anyone else really like Notre Dame for their complete like Iron Turtle approach to the game? It's absolutely brilliant.

Like if you, it's just, I love it. It's like, if you'd attempt to do anything whatsoever, they're like, that's a bad idea. I mean, they had Kirby so flustered and like Kirby would be thought of as a just take the minimum take

with they give you blah blah blah blah thing but like no we've seen Kirby have some weird fucking ideas before and my single favorite play maybe of the entire season was when Freeman called that punt switcheroo against Georgia and Kirby

lost his damn mind and just melted down about it all the way through the post game about you know he thought it was against rules or whatever but like just watching the hey, do you want to spend your second time out or not? And what the fuck do you do?

It was just awesome. So, like, for me, that was an example of they will take a big risk, but they'll put all the risk on you, right? Yeah. Notre Dame plays very, Notre Dame plays very Shogun Ball, which is this, which is, I think when they do their biggest moves, somebody appears with a letter.

And they're like, we have a proclamation to read regarding procedure. And everyone's like, ah, oh, God. Notre Dame is like, you know, one of those board games where someone has a secret card that changes the rules or whatever. Yeah. Surprise. Sorry, Ryan. It's all right here in writing.

They feel very Philadelphia Eagles to me. And I understand that I, of course, I'm the one who's going to say that. But they've got some sick jackets. They, they do that thing when things are rolling where they're, They're like, yeah, we would love to just run the ball for a nine-minute drive. And even if we don't score, we love our defense, so fuck you. Go fight them. What does our quarterback got?

90 yards passing, 90 yards rushing. Yes. Where do you want it? 90 yards passing. That's 90 more than we had before. Yes, yes. Yes, they feel, and I texted this to just Smitana during the Georgia game. But it was like, oh, but being.

a very Eagles team means that it comes with a like oh you might fuck this up in some stupid way and they do have a little bit like there is that feel to it as well it's it's it's the kind of game that when you run it well it's a lot of fun to watch because you're just like you're watching the other team as Jason said like get flustered where they're just like god oh don't why stop touching me oh hate this but if it bogs down you don't always have the ability to like turn on a dime like this is this is the team probably yeah certainly of the other three left that if they were to face ohio state and fall in a 17 oh hole i don't know how the fuck they're getting out of it i don't know how the fuck they're right right whereas like texas and pen state i at least

understand like what they would do i i don't know what it looks like if notre dame falls behind they just haven't that's not a problem that they've really encountered at this point idea of Riley Leonard, third and 11. Right, right. No. Which way will he run? Right. Yeah.

Not which direction. In which manner will he run. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Because Riley Leonard, as we've, who said before, he's going to go in the Wilson account. He's got to go in the Wilson account. Running like he's got a briefcase and umbrella under one arm and then the other.

Yeah. They're fun. They're fun. They're very, I, the defense is magnificent to watch. Um, Zaby Watts is incredible at safety. He has that thing where if you left a pie out on the windowsill, he will steal it. He has very much that kind of safety where he goes, huh, you thought I was in cover three. Neat.

Yoink. And very much a, not just a turnover dude, but a clutch turnover guy. He just pops up. I've said this elsewhere. This is, uh, this is the most, oh, we used to smoke indoors match up. that I think the playoff could put forward. This is, we used to smoke indoors versus we still smoke indoors. What are you talking about?

I think that might be Tennessee, Ohio State. Is this we still smoking doors? No, both of those teams still smoke indoors. That's a misconception. Heck, we're smoking right now. Who among Tennessee and Ohio State, are you accusing of not currently smoking indoors? No, that's the one I'm saying is still smoking indoors. With a lip-in.

That's efficiency. Penn State Notre Dame is more like, oh, Barb makes me go out to the porch to smoke now. My dad got a reusable tote bag for the grocery store for Christmas that says I'm carrying this bag because my wife cares about the environment.

I know we used to smoke. Obviously, restaurants had smoking sections. I know we used to smoke on airplanes. Hospitals is another one. Did people used to smoke in church? I honestly don't know. Okay, server is nodding. Server is nodded with the wisdom of the Carolina's voice.

Server nodded with this, with this like, beatific smile on it. That's the most like, what the fuck do you think look server has given me in a while? Not Baptist churches, but everywhere else. Now Orinthal. Okay. I just, like, if, I don't have any memory of, like, being in mass as a kid and somebody lighting up, but I bet that was the thing. Jason, certainly the 70s. Jason, educate me.

Isn't that how the Church of Christ even got started probably was just like some, like a Baptist is like, hell no, I can smoke? I mean, if you name it, then a Baptist group has splintered away from a different Baptist group because of it. I feel like at an Orthodox church, you can probably get away with smoking because, like, there's a lot of incense. There's a lot of incense. Just like, just mix it in there, man. If you just see, I'm just dying at the idea of all of these long-bearded priests with like salters, right, and smoke everywhere. And then there's just one guy named like, you have Genie, who's like, what? What?

Because you said, has anyone ever smoked in church? And my first thought was, oh, Johnny's smoking church. Like that somebody had smoked in an Italian church. But I don't even think that's a thing. I don't remember even firing it when I was a kid. Have you all seen a conclave? I haven't. Yes.

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Smoke of popes. Is the church cool again? He's just standing there in a car. crowd and just like it's not the point of the scene you might miss it if you don't see it watch it again oh yeah you know what he would admit no okay all right well we will talk about this later Spencer can you give me a little podcast music please podcast business what's a business podcast business edit business podcast business podcast business let's go get some cash let's go smoke in church let's go smoke in church

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Wait, wait, wait, the so there. I don't know. They're not really connected. I just say words sometimes, and I hope that they go together, and sometimes they do. I didn't know if I was giving 1988. No, no, no. I think we were, uh, server probably wasn't alive in 1988. He's young.

He's just barely. Okay, happy. Oh, no, no, no, close. Close to, close to, close to him. You know, I found a baring wolffish. More. Holly's lost in the ocean as usual. Jason, I'm going to give you two teams.

The character of the fish is actually quite timid. And I'm going to ask you, with, of them has more wins against the Notre Dame fighting Irish since the last time Notre Dame won a national title. It's my friend. I think it's sick. Right? It can crush mollus. Yes, I hear you.

Do you understand the rules? The team with more wins against Notre Dame since then. That's right. Okay. Let's start with Penn State or Georgia Tech. which of these teams has more wins against Notre Dame since 1988? Georgia Tech has one that I can recall. Let's go with that one.

Penn State has three wins against Notre Dame since 1988. Georgia Tech only has two. Jason, the Pitt Turbo Panthers or the Miami Hurricanes, which of these teams has more wins against Notre Dame since 1988? Wait, do you mean the Steelers? No, I doubt. definitely don't mean there's no turbo there yeah but turbo panther okay right um let's see well Miami has one that I can recall so I'm just skipping math today we're going with that one okay

okay I'm sorry to say Pitt has five wins against Notre Dame Miami only has two all right snow day of the mind Ohio State or Florida State wow which of these teams has more wins against the Notre Dame fighting Irish since 1988 Ohio State has the first one I thought of Ohio State, six wins. Florida State five, which is, of course, three more wins than they had this entire season. The only one two of this year. Yeah. Gosh, two? Yeah, it's pretty bad. Man. Not great. Purdue or Navy, Jason, which one of these teams has beaten Notre Dame more? Navy is certainly the first one that came to mind for me there. Okay. It's actually Purdue. Purdue with five wins. Navy with four. Spoiler up.

All right, two more to go. Boston College or Michigan State, which of these two teams has more wins? A lot of really beautiful football being played there. I'm going to say Michigan State because I'm still a little bit upset about their 2012 game. You are correct. Michigan State has 11 wins against Notre Dame since 1988. Boston College only has nine. And lastly, Michigan Wolverines or the Stanford Cardinal, which of these two has?

Hated foes has defeated Notre Dame more times since 1988. The first one I'm thinking of is the Donard Robinson game, Michigan. Michigan has beaten Notre Dame 12 times. Unfortunately, Stanford has done it 13 times. So that concludes this edition of more or less reviewing various teams that have beaten Notre Dame, an important edition. Just a little counterbalance to saying all these nice things about Notre Dame.

Yep, yep, yep. But hey, we pointed out teams that haven't done it that often. So maybe it's bad for those teams instead. FSU. Almost all of the teams I mentioned, and I think Stanford is the exception, are available where, Holly Anderson? Homefield apparel.com. That's right. You nailed it. Yeah.

While exploring the frozen sea. How do you stay warm in the frozen sea if you're not a cold-blooded animal? via home field apparel squishy clothing mostly for the upper body but not so much anymore consisting of many fine fabrics woven together to bind you in human warmth that's right uh this is my swimming viddy on them which is the point hey listen if a hoodie can be as as discussed during the koala brain episode if water is just really really wet terrain and hoodies can be rain gear then it stands to reason that hoodies can also be a wet suit. There's only one way to find out.

You go to homefield apparel.com. When you wear under a wet suit, a wet shirt. That's right. You get off-a-code forecast. You get 20% off your first order. You clothe yourself, head-to-to-to-homefield apparel. You dive into the ocean and you see how far you can go. And you're confident that no matter what happens,

it'll be better than that submarine, way better than that submarine trip. Way cheaper, too. You're going to look cool. Yep. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And at no point will somebody say, hey, why were you operating your home field apparel sweatshirt with a PlayStation controller? Because you didn't do that.

I'm going to do that. You didn't do that. Did you? I don't have a PlayStation. See? Problem solved. QED. Hoodie season is definitely here, I got to say.

Double hoodie season. Buy two. Stack of hoodies. Yeah. Walk around like the Michelin, man. Yeah. That's the only way. Jason, what other podcast business do we have?

So folks, we have a live event coming up with Split Zone Duo, which is another college football podcast. You might say, oh, there's only one, only one. That refers to this universe there in some other universe that doesn't count. But we're doing a live event. They're part of the Burger King's Club. They're in McDonald's. Is it a charity initiative we're doing?

We do a lot of those. We're just trying to teach them what college football is at this live event in Atlanta. As you probably know, at live events, we like to do disaster things. episodes. We're going to do a weird. We're going to do a meta one here in honor of them being a sports podcast, talks about sports. We're going to attempt, bear with me here, football disasters. We've never done this before. Jason, what do you mean? When I mean, when I say that, what I don't mean is my team lost a game. I don't care. Everybody's team has lost a game. Who gives a shit? That part doesn't matter. We want funny stuff. We want like your stories about something you

personally witnessed. Maybe you did it on the field as a mascot player, coach, whatever. You saw it in a crowd, a tailgate. It's something you personally witnessed. I'll give you a very mild example. A very mild example. The Terrence Cody, Langkiff in Tennessee, Bama game. I was in the Alabama Greek section. Oh, yeah, that is bad.

Yeah. Yeah. So it's very, very, very specific stuff about that's not on the sports reference page. If this makes any sense, it's not like, I'm a Purdue fan. Need I say more? Yes, you do need to say more. We need a funny story. Yeah.

You see what I'm saying? I'm a Purdue fan. I was trapped in the drum for a week and a half. Now we're cooking. Listen, we love y'all, but listening is not your strong suit. So we're going to need you to bear down. I'm including all these instructions in the Google forum that by the time you hear this has been socialed and is in the show notes. So if you need to refresh, just want to reiterate what we're going to go for here is funny stories, not sad game results.

I'm a Purdue fan. That was my Jack Daniels that Kyle Orton has. had. Yeah. Correct. Yeah. Verify the chain of custody of the Jack Daniels, that sort of thing. Does this make sense?

Yes. If you're an athletic director at a D1 college football program, you know, call us. We know you're listening. If you're Mark Emmert. Mm-hmm. Oh. You know what? If you're Mark Emmert, I'll leave a ticket for you at the door.

Yeah. Come on in. We're going to fight Mark Emmer on stage. Spencer is going to dunk on Mark. I would play one-on-one versus Mark Emmert. Folks, we found a crack. What of my, hold on, hold on. I got to see what Mark Emmer's background is.

You know that poem that goes ring the bells that can still ring? This is exactly what they meant. Hold on. Mark Emerit was all region as a high school sophomore. I got five, no, it doesn't matter. Hey, man, Jerry Shockey was an academic All-American. Stranger Things have happened. I got five hard fouls for that, man.

He's just all nerdery. No, no basketball. background that I can see. Yeah. Yeah, it's fair. Be wild if he was like, yeah, man, that guy was a monster at lacrosse. That's very, it's very humble of him. Yeah. Yeah, he didn't put his, he didn't put his 38 points a game and 14 assists on the old resume.

Look, I, I treasure you as a friend and colleague, Spencer, but if we got footage of Mark Emmer yamming on you, it would be a treasured possession. A treasured possession. I would not blame you. That man got Mark M. hurt. He'd make me look like a true amateur. Yeah, he would. I wish he's not paying you.

Yeah, he's not paying you. It's got Mark M. Merked. That means you're getting paid in school credit. I'm getting paid in company script. You're paid in knowledge. Yeah, that's right. It was an end. Yeah.

Does that conclude positive? Anybody else have. podcast business, I suppose I should ask. Oh, we're doing previews all week, et cetera, on Channel 6, the newsletterware for 10. Previews of what? Prevues of the bowl games that we are talking about here. Okay. And we're going to be doing

a championship one as well. Also got a follow NFL. Yeah, we've got one up already. Yeah, we've got one up already. We're going to do another. And for $10 a month, you will get two things a week. That is the solemn promise, and it is one that we have kept for three years at this point. What is the

closest that you've come to having one thing and then the second thing is is it going to make the cut and make the deadline and usually it involves something boring like there's a sick kid and it's Friday and so we have to like get something in on

a Sunday. Sure sure so Sunday counts yeah we our our work week starts on Monday okay that's good to know so anyone out there if you if you if you if you're curious

we actually average more than two things a week but we try not to send you too many emails it's like that it's like that weight lifting debate. Yes. Oh, no. No, it's not. I'm not going to get more into it than that.

That's all. Although we are the dumbest boys alive. That is true. Two things week, $10 a month. The solemn promise kept as always by myself and Holly at Channel 6. Server, you got any podcast business? We should attend to.

Come visit beautiful Winston-Salem. We have a building shaped like a dick and on February 8th you can see killer ants play with instant regrets and housewife not at that building that looks like a dick but how close how close like maybe like two miles

okay yeah what's up do instant regrets also have a Zed at the end of their name no they don't we're the only ones with a Z at the end of our name why I forgive them cool is why no it's not a Y it's a Z common misconception

what is in the building that looks like a dick and could you organize a show there in theory? I think it's all like it's all it's so that was originally the Wachovia building then the Wells Fargo building I think it's still technically called the Wells Fargo building

more like the Hawkovia building but it's been it's been it's been like rented out on the inside so it's all like financial institutions and like brokers and shit like that so it would be fucking awesome to do a show in there and just piss everyone off

but I don't think it would happen. This is a real Dick building. I got to tell you. I have a look up this building, if you will, you can look up Dick building in Winston-Salem and find it, or Wachovia building or Wachauville Building in Winston-Salem. You will see this building, and then this story that I'm about to tell it will be a lot funnier. My dad's ex-wife was at the Chamber of Commerce in Winston-Salem when this building was

unveiled, and it literally rose up from out of view, into view, the Dick building did on the unveiling of the mob. of what it was going to look like when it was presented to the Winston-Salem Chamber of Commerce. Were there snickers

as it did so? Oh yeah, yeah, everyone was like, that's a dick. So you're saying this thing was erected? Yep, sure was. Hmm. Yeah. I mean, this building, it's, uh, that's, that's a penis. Yeah.

It's a beacon for me. I know I'm home. When I see that large shaft. You should definitely see if you could play a show in the top of this show. On. Yeah. There have a top. There have been, I can't say, there have been shows at the base of this building.

In more than one way. I can just see the architect being like, I need a shaft forward penis building. Don't make the head too bad. Hey, what's up? We're the Nads. How is there not a summer movie series at this building where you watch Shaft every week? Yeah, yeah. We'll be screening shaft on the taint.

The image is wrapped around. this is now my second favorite penis-shaped building behind the Florida State Legislature One that literally is just like Yeah, the Florida State Legislature does have testicles on the side too That's what makes it so bad, yeah, it just looks like This is Carolina, they should host an AAU tournament And be like, it's time to cradle the ball

It's like that building is so bad because Tallahassee's just kind of an ugly stretch of land anyway and it's hot and the sun's too bright and you look up and there's this wow wow wow wow wow this is what a dick Do you think it moves? This Florida building is what a dick would look like in Minecraft. Yeah, sure. Okay.

It's unpleasant, I'll tell you that. I accept this as a possibility. Ladies, what do you do if you're hanging out with your girl and you ask about the man? He's got that Minecraft dig. What? Hey, at least you know what you're getting every time. I'm a shower, not a grower.

Oh, yeah, what? What if a builder? All right, Spencer, get us out of here. That's it. All right. All right. We can talk about Texas, Ohio State. Nah.

Yeah. Just skip. Skip. Sim. Boy, speaking of Skip. and balls do you have a messy co-worker do you have 20 messy co-workers

good God you know what's wrong with this you know what's wrong with that workplace nobody's ever seen down in Abbey because you see people working around you in silence and you think because they're not saying anything

that they're not listening to you you absolute buffoons favorite part of that whole thing going out of the lady to being like, Colin Cowherd's cool. No, it's very specific as a Colin Cowherd was professional to meet throughout my tenure. Everybody in that whole thing is like, the worst person in the world. Colin Cowherd walks in and they're like...

Colin Coward's year of ally ship rolls into a second year. I'm disturbed at this trend. Again, disturbing trends. We go to war with the coalition we have. Whoever's showing up with the barricade, baby. Welcome, Colin. Thank you, Comrade, Colin. Why, I'm sorry to drag us back.

Why is Texas, Ohio State, meh, to y'all? I was kidding, mainly. Oh, okay. This feels like two teams that it would be fun to, like, just literally win the episode without talking about. I'm sorry. I feel bad now. I didn't pick it up. No, it's fine.

It's fine. This game could be really great. No, Ryan should feel bad. I do. This game could be really, really great. Put me in the hamburger, stripes. I have committed podcast. Wow.

You know they have an, take that out back. You know they have an updated hambrack. burglar because you can't update somebody to this is how many people we put in jail as as as americans we can't update the hamburgler we can't update the hamburgler to like an orange jumpsuit because like you look at it and be like that looks like somebody i know in prison right you're like that looks like that looks like it's also just less it's less cartoonish it's less cartooning or fun right like not that it wasn't cartooning like we had people in like actual stripes in the 1970s

when they were making this up. He's also not in jail. Like, this is just in the world. It's more disturbing than that, Ryan. He's on the loose. Why does he have a tie on then? He's a referee. This is like, have you asked him the fugitive? Yeah.

Business prison. Business prison. Business dignity. Like him and Martha Stewart are roommates. Yes, business prison. When you go to compare minds and leadership. You could, honestly, I bet you could sell 10,000 copies of an airport book that said business prison on the front and had nothing on the inside.

What's the coloring book on the inside? 600 pages of each page just has one business word on. Brian, do you want to write the world's dumbest business book with me called business president? Do you guys want to make a coffee table book in the office? You say we can gum row this shit. Let's just call it podcasts. Seven secrets. To unlock.

The business prison. Shut down full books already exists. It's like, so we're going to, the, um, the, the reader, they are going to explore the business prison and emerge from it having been transformed into like, is that, is that? Right. We're making a chrysalis out of the world. Listen, we'll send them to every college football coach and someone will bite on it. Yeah. You tell me, Lane Kiffin won't take a picture of business prison and put it on Instagram.

Are you kidding? My heart's been in business prison. I learned these lessons rooming next to the cell of the wealth dad. Thank you, wealth dad. You taught me about wealth and love. That's true. Mainly both. I'm doing the work, which means posting Costa Rican crypto links.

I mean, I'm doing the work, which doesn't mean doing work. Yeah, it doesn't mean no. I'm subcontracted out somebody to do that work for me in a much lower price in Indonesia. We need to just go into a room with two ball peen hammers, hit each other in the head as hard as we can and write this book. Business prison. Business prison. We weren't leaving the room until we came out with what we thought was a vision for business prison. Can the whole thing be preamble to the secrets and then they never arrive?

Yes. Yes. Is this our Celestine prophecy? Yes. Okay, hear me out. It's far enough into the episode that we know they're not listening. Do you think we could give Vox to review this book? Far enough into the episode could have been minute one, to be clear. Ryan, that was a joke that I told in a very dry manner.

Thank you for pointing it out. I don't think this is your best day. We don't have jokes in business prison, all right? You've got to fight every day to survive in business. It's all business in business. You have to go up to your biggest competitor in the capital. cafeteria and shank him. Out business him. You can't shake him in the cafeteria.

All those sporks are made out of bamboo, brother. Business. You got to go hand to hand. Business bamboo. You know who's providing the bamboo sporks to the cafeteria? Rock Continent. Me and koalakow. That's who.

You've bought out the koalas. That's right. I own business prison and I'm trapped there. Business private prison. That's right. Oh, there's the social headline. I own business prison. dot dot dot and I'm trapped there

and so can you if you can defeat me do you agree I'm trapped there and so can you do you agree turn the that's how we get them reading turn the page if you agree

I sharpen this bamboo sport to a point with my mind so I think the goal for this book should be to be worse than AI but if they're Jason you've had a lot of good ideas but if there was ever one that we were absolutely fucking made for.

It's being worse than AI. Okay. I'd like to see it. I believe in us. You can't get this kind of brain damaged graph out of AI. Only the human mind can produce. I hear you,

but I don't know that I would be willing to say like, hi, I'm a sassy, queer black mom talking to you about business. I cannot wait for the first person who does not know what we're talking about to get to the, this portion of the show. And what's great is

the internet is so fucked up right now that when they try to Google what you're talking about, they won't find anything. Yes, but all secrets are revealed in prison. Ryan, you have always reminded me of Sophia Vergara and I'm just glad

I have this opportunity to tell you. I like Katie Nodopoulos creating her own AI. That was Luigi Manjone. That was like, mail a ghost gun to my house? The one that said, when somebody goes,

how do we fix health care? I was like, well, I have an idea, but I'm afraid to tell you. All right. I'm happy to report. There is no book on Amazon specifically titled Business Prison. Not yet. Wow. So, I mean, y'all can get this done like tonight, so.

Probably. Yeah, off-season is almost a year. We'll write it at the live show. yeah okay that's good idea who's got an idea for business quick go go just say it business prison doesn't have time for meetings I can't hear you

if there's one thing this podcast is proven is that there are no bad ideas in business prison I've already reminipulated time I just thought of the most bone-chilling sentence I have ever dreamed up which is there are no bad ideas

just podcasts waiting to happen. Business prison, the podcast. Business prison. Sharks are always moving in business prison. Then we just launched Shut Down Prison, which is our abolition podcast. The prison is flooded. That's how the sharks are alive.

The prison is flooded with ideas. That's how the sharks keep moving at all times. Flooded with cash that I'm taking. I just want to get us to a point where Mark Cuban with his hand on his chin on his hand looks at us and goes I'll give you $8 million plus a 15% share For business prison Go fuck yourself

Yeah we'll be like go fuck yourself there's no escape from You think you can buy your way into business in prison prison Yeah I sentence you to eight years of success Butterfly fish Eight years of success in business prison