Shutdown Fullcast - Championship Week: The Heffelfinger Dynasty

Episode Date: December 4, 2024

An update on the CUM Bowl's Sapphic Jugs Trophy (sp?)In postseason terms, we're back where we always were (derogatory)Holly visits the AggieVerseLet's go down a Gophers holeA brief detour into another podcastPurdue gets Cignetti-CroomedThe games of conference championship weekend, previewed in loving detailFullcast theme song arranged and performed by Corey CunninghamJump in on friend of the program Treblaw's annual One Simple Wish toy drive here: https://www.onesimplewish.org/giving/megwalbertTickets for the Tuscaloosa Get Up 3 are on sale now: https://ci.ovationtix.com/36768/production/1216165Listen to Ryan's other, less harrowing show, We're Not All Like This, and check out his new narrative podcast with Steven Godfrey, Who Killed College Football? https://www.wkcfb.com/Check out Jason's free CFB Watch Grid newsletter and other work: https://www.jasonkirk.fyi/Find Holly and Spencer writing and chirping at https://channel-6.ghost.io/Purchase only the finest Fullcast gear at sunny https://preownedairboats.com/

I forget at what point in the saga we jumped in on the Cumbull Trophy on Saturday night, but have there been multiple additional statements since then? Have we had multiple exchanges? I've actually lost my place where we are in the saga. I don't think I've seen any. They at one point, they released a pair of identical statements at some point over the weekend, and I can't remember if it was after we recorded or not saying that they, The trophy is now the property of both collectives, and the whole air of it was basically both schools going like, y'all deal with this, the Sapphic Jugs trophy or whatever it is we're calling us.

Yeah, that's what I thought the name was. Look at me over here, respectfully admiring the Saffic Jugs trophy. I was like, good for them. Yeah. That sounds great. I mean, that's a Boston marriage. It's a local tradition. We have, there's all sorts of like ongoing continuing fallout from Rivalry Weekend.

Fulcat, you would jump up at this exact moment. Mm-hmm. Yeah. He, he appreciates, he appreciates, uh, South Carolina players running down the hill at Clemson. They tread on me. Wee. I'm, it is a remarkable feat of the strength and conditioning program at Clemson that Serber, has anyone ever just popped an ACL on that thing?

I don't think that Clemson has ever admitted a player was injured running down the hill as far as I know. And no one comes to mind. You'd see it. Like, right? Like a tumble would. I think it helps that it, what about two and a half, three feet up the hill? It flattens. There's like a platform.

Okay. So when they're coming off the little motocross landing, they kind of have a flat spot to land. Yeah, I think that's, I think that would help. And I mean, these, they are really, they're in great shape. Although, like, but I, and the offensive linemen take it the way I would. I will say that too, like, like, Ryan Lentacom, the center for Clemson right now, he does not full bore sprint down the hill. Like, he is, he's baby stepping in a little bit. They, the big fellas take their time.

But I'm surprised. I'm frankly shocked that like, we've got so many coaches over the age. of 50 over the past several years you run down the hill and no contact injuries are real and how has that never produced as far as we know a major no contact injury yeah so i don't i think it's if it has they definitely wouldn't say that that's what it was i have an answer somebody has been injured running down the hill was it an opposing coach uh no he was not an opposing coach nor was it a frolicing south carolina gamecock the one person clemson And fans might want to get injured on the hill. No, it was a reserve wide receiver named Gene Pate, who also was a holder. He broke two bones in his leg while running down the hill prior to a game against UVA on October 11th, 2003. Wow. Yeah, that name does not ring any type of bell.

Are you sure that that's 2003 and not 1903? You said his name is Gene Pate? Gene Pate. That's, that's like a, I don't know, that's an I've been working on the railroad name. It does sound like a guy was first year on the staff. Like that sounds like the dude who manned the little hand cart. Yeah, he was lost for the season, breaking two bones. He sounds like a Jean Pate.

Why, why, hey, we're at the football banquet. Gene's got a cast. Why? I'm going to, this was Dabo's first season on staff. I'm going to go ahead and say it now. He sacrificed Pate. Oh, 100%. There's some sort of,

some sort of ritual took place in that how could it never happen before never happened since but just happened to this one random wide receiver at that i want some sort of old testament set up where like dabbo is in the qt or he's in the gas station and the end cap full of cupcakes was like burr dabbo i speak with the voice of god like the talking garbage pile and fragal rock right we know nothing of how he spent 2000 to 2003 there's no true evidence of what was done during that time yeah like flames like like cold flame behind the standee full of got like uh tasty cakes and it's just sitting there going like under man broken boats pretty much anything could be real estate yeah and then from that point on it was like i will reward you there you go jean peat who uh doesn't look like doesn't look like he did a whole lot else looks like he is now a system design specialist whatever that is he went pro in something other than football hey man go taggers uh oh yeah like 70 it's less than 70 degrees in the house which means it's time for the first show

of the year where the cat will not leave my keyboard oh a special guest what's that joe oh god let the record show that the cat just headbutted me in the teeth. Thank you, Kat. The other thing I'm very excited about is this as the longtime Kyle McCord supporter. Noted Kyle McCord. Just vintage Kyle behavior. What an apex Kyle. Hot off his defeat of the Miami Hurricanes.

It's clear now, by the way. This is the Alpha Kyle. Yes, Kyle McCord. big, big alligator mouth little alligator mouth pointing at Cam Ward that's it greater than that's McCord Ward

What was it that happened? I didn't see it Fran Fran Brown thanked Ryan Day for sending him Carl McCord He said this back in September He's just reiterated it Oh okay yeah

Yeah but he's just really happy for him you know it's just it's just awesome uh it was kind of put out that he was the this is the quote i just the country to be able to see how good a football player he is it was kind of put out that he was the reason ohio state lost to michigan last season so i guess after watching a win this weekend i don't know what happened to that piece you know you're seeing the same results again he could have stopped here this is the best part but fran brown kept going because he's a real one you know you're seeing the same results again you can't blame kyle correct so I'm happy that Kyle was able to go and clear his name.

I was referring to Apex Kyle behavior of Kyle's rap solo in the locker room, which is just, man, I'm not sure you can hurt Miami worse than to have a white guy rap at you. They're like, that's our thing. With, with. Like, he's stealing Greg Olson Valor right out from in front of you. with conviction with conviction Kyle McCord is from the Philadelphia area

so you know what pieces falling into place there we go sitting with some meek some uh going freeway on him I was gonna say the way he was the way he was moving

was a little freewayish he needs a really he needs a really wild unconnected beard now and to invoke freeways again at Miami their greatest weapon interstate driving Ouch

When his heat stopped working Kyle's going to rob him a person Rob him a person That person And I'm gonna get him Ryan Day So It's kind of fun to look at the college football

Records as if they are one big conference Fuck it might as well be They are By that logic Syracuse finished Only one game behind Ohio State What's the strength of schedule Don't worry about it One game behind

Don't you worry about that you know the great thing about worrying about strength of schedule right now is that not only is there absolutely no way of knowing how much or how little the committee is going to value it because it's the committee but even once they set that rubric for this time there's no way to tell whether or not they're going to lean on it next time love the system love it yeah i mean there was a lot that um a lot about the art that they used use, art isn't necessarily compliment. There's lots of bad art, but there was a lot about the art that felt science adjacent until last season and, you know, until what they did to our beloved Knowles, specifically the 20, when we say beloved Knowles, we mean 2023 Knowles and no other Knowles. I guess the which the committee invoked that, which should stay is that that should serve to underline, you know, the audacity of this move that we were like, wait a second, not the knolls not our precious knolls at which point we defended florida state after that you can no longer say you have playoff projections you have playoff um utterings you have playoff fives fives frequency uh yeah i'm i'm tapping into the uh it playoff horoscope um no there's more science to that oh my god the playoff committee is astrology for men finally with the correct number of losses

I thought it was the stock market but it's this the correct number of losses for a playoff team is somewhere in the realm of the amount of items you can take as a free sample at the supermarket

one it's probably fine I think it's just whatever Alabama's losses are every year right that's probably where we can just put that needle it's yeah it's really funny to just look up and oh my God we're exactly where we always were

Alabama's on the edge of the playoffs There's something kind of grimly comforting about that. No matter how small or how big the playoff is, Alabama will be right on the edge of it. By the way, before, I know we'll look at the schedule later on, but there's not much of it. But if you don't want Alabama in the playoff, and heck, who does, you got to root for Clemson this week. That's all about my time. One or the other, folks. It's going to be rough.

It's going to be a rough polling. You know what? let's do it for server folks. Yeah, server, you're gaining some, uh, I don't,

I don't feel, not of these ponies come lately. I don't feel good about this because, no, no, no, no, I feel good about Clemson beating SMU.

I think, I think, I think that they got a shot and Clemson, I think Clemson will be SMU. Here's the thing. Oh yeah, brother. Before the rankings come out,

I'm pretty positive that the gamecocks are going to be that team that's on the edge of the rankings. And I have a really terrible. terrible feeling that Clemson's going to beat SMU because this system doesn't fucking work and they're going to rob South Carolina of a playoff spot even though South Carolina

just beat Clemson. Yeah, and Clemson. Yeah, it's fucked up. Yeah, I mean, I think so Bama beating South Carolina probably just means South Carolina just keeps pushing Bama upward. Arriving tied, you say. It's very fucked up. Yes, it's very fucked up that

Clemson, if they win, they will have a first round buy, and definitely knock out South Carolina, probably also Bama. If you're South Carolina, is that how you want it? If it's like, oh, honored rival, one last blow to the back of the head, let you strike it for you. No, no, no, it is not. You want one more bite at the ankle. I mean, you get to be so pissed all off season.

I say this with all affection. You get to be, so you get to brag about beating a playoff team, you know, the team you hate most additionally like embarrassing them as they back their way into the playoff um and you get to be pissed at the like the whole you you were the new twenty twenty three florida state the whole country's pissed off on your behalf if you're south carolina in this scenario even though like yeah i i really do think bama will um rank ahead of them i don't like that but i think that i mean if if um depending on how you know depending on how saturday it goes they might have beaten

Oh, God, they might have beaten two playoff teams if A&M wins out Saturday. That's not happening. That already happened. Yeah, we're good there. Where did I just go? You went to the ultimate. I just fell backwards through time. You went through the Aggieverse. A&M is not playing Texas this weekend as far as...

What the hell just happened to me? The Aggieverse. What's a terrifying word? The 12th universe. Ugh, I'm back. That was weird. Anyway, did I miss anything at the Aggies game? Which section is a cocaine section?

3.3.3.3.6. Okay. So it's Marvel Universe 336 is the one where the Aggies are in the playoff. Yikes. Sorry, y'all. I regret the error, my first. Yeah. We will probably get the schedule pretty quickly because it's pretty relevant to a lot of things we're talking about currently.

Oh, but I have a game. You do have a game. Before we close out, right? rivalry week have a game okay um you guys ever uh you guys ever just sit bolt up right and realize that PJ Fleck hadn't said something crazy in a minute a while yeah yeah so golden gophers have finished the regular season at seven and five and as with regular season record I just kind of went and looking over at recruiting rankings while we were putting together at the top whatever today for Channel 6. And it's also having these mega conferences

also makes looking at recruiting rankings rather grim because you're like, oh, Minnesota's like in the middle third of the Big Ten. Oh, that means Minnesota's like 15th in recruiting in the Big Ten for the 2025 recruiting class. And I, you know, obviously as as Big Ten as go. for fans you want better. And there was just something about a quiet PJ Fleck that unnerved me. You know, it's not his natural state. And I just, just for fun, I went and kind of fell down a little rabbit hole of trying to put Fleck in the context of previous Minnesota coaches.

And this is, you know, as a Big Ten team, one of those teams that has played since 1884. So they've had a number of head coaches. And he has been there for eight years, putting him among the, the very longest tenured are those head coaches. So I thought I might see where he fell in the constellation in terms of winning percentage. And would you guys like to guess

how many more head coaches have a better winning record at Minnesota than PJ Fleck? And it's been since 1884, so there's a lot of them. I know one. it's not it's not many it's 15 okay

now a lot of this is due a lot of this is due to the fact that back in the 1800s there was a different coach every year for a while in fact in 1889 there were four different head coaches during the season they used game coaches and not

and not permanent like year round coaches that season so of the 15 head coaches who have better records right now than PJ Fleck, whose winning percentage is he is 90, or sorry, he has coached in 94 games, which is also kind of wild to think about coming up on his 100th game. He is 56 and 38 for a win percentage of 596. Of the 15 coaches who came before him, four of them, again, coached in one season,

would you guys like to guess how many of them coached after 9%? 1950. Ah, not many. Zero. There we go. Zero. Would you like to guess how many of them coached after 1900? Two.

Also, not many. Also, not many. Just two others. The last coach to complete a stint with a higher winning percentage was Bernie Bierman, Beer Man, thank God, who coached his final game for the Gophers in 1950. just two other coaches in that category recorded wins in the 20th century four others as we said coached in the same single season in 1889 also one of them was named pudge heffelfinger yeah Minnesota has some of the greatest names of coaches ever and that includes legendary coach no no no no no no I'm good this part of the game okay okay we are playing real coach or fake coach and we are also and then we are saying whether or not he has a better win percentage than people PJ Fleck. Are you ready? Wow. Okay. Yeah. Are you ready? All right. Uh, the first one, you get a, you get a freebie for the first one, because Pudge Hefflefinger cannot be possibly real. Did he have a better or worse win percentage than PJ Fleck? That sounds like a 1 and 0. Better. You're close. One season, uh, 7 and 3 for a 700 win percentage in 1895. Uh,

Frank Hefflefinger. No relation. Just kidding. Wow. Just kidding. So when the Heffel fingers rolled through. Damn, rolling deep. They left a swath throughout the Western conference. Boy, don't you know, those Heffle fingers, they're lady killers. They can coach some ball. Bois, bow, bow, bow, boy.

I'm out of my bellywick. Yeah. Where's out of my house from? Bowl. Okay, Frank Hefflefinger, better or worse record than PJ Fleck. I'm going to go another 1 and 0. Yes, this is one of those game coaches in that four coach season, 1889, that group went three and one collectively for a seven. They are credited collectively with a 7-5-0 win percentage.

More teams should do this. A multiple Hefflefinger season? No, Frank was in 1889. Pudge was in 1895. So they just remembered the Hefflefinger name and they were like, that guy, that guy. Oh, the Heffle finger. us to freaking glory. He's pretty good.

Paul Heffel fingers. Did you see him? All right. Here's another great one. Murray Warmath. Better. Real and better. Minnesota has the best names.

Three and two. No, Murray Warmath was the shit. He was a national title winner. Yeah. Murray Warmath. Does he have a better or worse winning percentage than PJ Fleck? Better. Worse.

No. Oh, God, damn it. In 18 seasons at Minnesota from 1954 to 1971, he recorded an 80 and 78 and sorry 87 78 and 7 record for a 5 to 6 win percentage damn my war math let me down all right here's it here's a great one that that sounds like I'm kind of amazed or maybe this is PJ flex uh doppelganger it's hard to tell jack minds which is an energy drink that's what that's what that's what Gatorade fast Twitch does to us I work in the jack minds and bunny no no Mimes, as in multiple brains.

Spencer, do you think Jack Mines had a better or worse record than P.J. Fletk? Yeah, I'm continually betting. I'm just betting over again and again. Better, better, better. Worse, single season in 1898, 4 and 5 for a 4-44 percentage. Well, because he was tired. Last one. Last one. I swear to God, I'm not making this up.

Wally Winter. If you can't win in Minnesota with, the name Wally Winter, which sounds like an alias for Chris Kringle, then, ugh, I'm going to guess that name is too perfect. I'm going to guess it was an O and two flop. Wally Winter has the sole perfect record in Minnesota coaching history, one season, 1893, 6 and O. There was also the 1892 season where they went 5 and 5 with no coach at all. Huh. We've got to get Wally Winter in here.

For those of you wondering when we are going to mention Glenn Mason, his winning percentage is also below flex at this point, hovering at 529 in 10 seasons from 97 to 06. The ghost that you are really chasing, if you're looking at Minnesota all-timers, is Henry L. Williams, who co-created the tackleback formation with some guy named Walter Camp at some place called Yale. Not familiar. His winning percentage, 0.786 through 22 seasons from 1900 to 1921, is the highest, with the exception of that Wally Winter season in 1893. It is tied with a man named Tom Eck, E.C.K, who coached for one season in 1890 and somehow wound up with the exact same winning percentage as Henry Williams, who coached for 21 more. years. Don't ever let anyone tell you the past was dignified. Final tidbit in 1903, the gofers went 14 and

zero and one. Their lone tie came against fielding H. Yosts Michigan Wolverines, a team some of you may have heard of. And this is the game in which the Wolverines left their water jug behind giving rise to the little brown jug trophy, which today, you know, let's return to a more dignified past. Imagine painting up a gatorade cooler that you're the piece of trash that your rivals had left behind on the field. Be like, it's our treasure. We got to bury it. Uh, UConn would do that. UConn would happily do that. They really would. They really would. Can you imagine today? That was a great game, Holly. Thank you. Can you imagine today? And now introducing new Minnesota coach, Benny Beardman.

Maybe like, Oh, love that guy! The beard, yeah. It's even spelled in the German fashion. No nasty Dutch here. Wisconsin's like, damn, we were so close to getting him. We'll have to stick with our new coach, Steve Brandyman. Steve Brandy.

Anyway, this is not to secretly tell Minnesota fans that they should be satisfied with a seven and five season. It's just interesting that in that long, grasping galaxy, of Minnesota football that he's actually creeping into the upper echelon very slowly. Also, Minnesota coaches have

just the best run of names in history. I can't imagine a set of guys with better names you can put up against that. Oh, you want to talk about some dudes. Dudes. Guys. Fellas.

Dudes with a little O with the slash through it. Dudes. Some real men. Love these men. Mays, men. It's so good. You know what? Anyway, that's a series of people who had more or less wins than PJ Fleck.

That was excellent. I think that was an excellent pick, Holly. I wouldn't do one more. I should get a prize. Segway! How about some money? We could start the show first. Oh, shit.

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LSU or Georgia? Ooh. Sunny says Georgia. This is why we don't ask sunny things because Georgia has, Georgia is in the less category. LSU has more. They have won the SEC championship game five times. Georgia only four. next how dare they how dare they next who has more appearances all time in the big 12 championship every current school in the conference combined or oklahoma ryan i hate you you're not here but i hate you oklahoma that's a really good guess it's also not right uh god more to every other team combined 17 he knew i would bite at themselves have appeared 12 that is he knew i would bite at that that that's

That's a backhanded compliment to come to Oklahoma, though. I hate you and I hate your little saw puppet legs. Who has scored more points in their sole appearance in the ACC title game? Miami or Notre Dame? I want to say Notre Dame. That is correct. But this feels like another trap. Oh, I did say Notre Dame.

That's right. Mm-hmm. You just did. I'm making the decision for you. More to Notre Dame. That's right. That's right. They scored 10 points at Miami.

Right. Miami, and their only appearance in the ACC title game, their only appearance scored three. That's right. I am right. But that's okay. They're going to the ACC title game this year, so it's fine. Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. Who won more Pac-12 championship games? Oregon or the entire Pac-12 South combined? That's one, not appeared, one. He's going to do it again, Edna. Oregon.

That is correct. Got you, little bastard. That's right, with your little sawpuppet legs. Again, Ryan is not small. The saw puppet is small and Ryan is inhabiting his form. Hope this helps. That's right. Four, they've won four conference championship games.

The Pactful of South won three. Next. Which school has punted more in the sum of their Big Ten championship game appearances? Oh, wow. Ohio State or Iowa? I really don't like these obvious trick questions. Mm-hmm. Wait, this is a double trick question, isn't it?

Kind of. Ohio State. That is correct. Because... Because... Because... Mm-hmm. Because why Spencer?

Because they've appeared in way more of them, seven total Big Ten championship game appearances and 29 punts in those seven. Iowa, though, in just three games, has punted 19 times. So if we just... Get those appearances up, Iowa. You're going to be right there with them.

Won't he do it? He meaning Kurt Ferrence and it punting. He sure won't. Final question. Oh, good. I wanted more of these. Well, congratulations. You get more here on less or more.

Does Marshall have more appearances in the Conference USA Championship game or the Mac championship game? They've been in both. Going to say Mac because. of the players involved in that era. That's all I got. You finished on a hot streak. That is correct. Marshall has appeared in the Mac Championship game six times

and in the Conference USA Championship game three times. Can I tell you I had to think for a second because what I thought he was going to do there was say that I had to think for a second to make sure Marshall was actually in Conference USA. Because that's where I thought the trap was on this one. Ryan, you little devil. He would like to play a game.

I think you acquitted yourself beautifully. This has been more or less brought to you by prize picks. We're getting good in this at week 15. Reps. Reps. It's just doing it. Just need reps and games. It's championship week and we're advertising like champions at this point.

Speaking of which, Treblah wanted to thank Ryan, who's not here, especially for following up our advertising of Treblah's one simple wish toy drive for kids on Saturday night, followed immediately by Ryan making fun of Penn State for me in the Big Ten title. That's right. You're welcome. That's, I love college football because y'all, they could win. Dumber things have happened this season.

It's true. You're such losers. I can't believe you made the conference championship game. Or Miami, you only went nine and three losers. Can't believe that. man make an organ go to indianapolis they're looking around they're like hmm there are unprety places in the world yeah if you're by the way if you're fond of listening to uh if you're fond of listening to uh if you're fond of listening to other podcasts there's one called well there's your problem recent episode focused on an auditorium explosion in

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Tell me the more funny stuff. the funny stuff was they had this traffic jam of people going into help and no control was ever given because everybody just parked their cars because it's the Midwest and they're like they'll be parking it's fine they just told you have it and blocked everything and part of the traffic jam was clergy on the way to get there like well they'll need a priest got to go down there such as this fly try hard priests getting down there how can you help well that is funny you're right yeah I thought it was hilarious just if you look at you're like i believe that you thought this was hilarious i did i was laughing again the shutdown full cast spencer was laughing and that's what's important uh do we want to look at championship weekend and maybe have any other business before we do oh there could be a little bit of podcast business wants some business podcast business and some business got the business championship week

that's a kind of business that we play on football and then we talk about our stuff we sell yeah I'm going to get a drum pad Jason what business you got let's see here if you want stickers for your copy of the book that you are

picking up now to get to someone for Christmas then send me a screenshot of that receipt and your address at Jason Kirk at Gmail, and I will write on a sticker, I have the worst penmanship, the world's worst penmanship, and the first round of these that we sent out, Emily did the addresses. So, like, the envelopes are just, like, beautiful handwriting, gorgeous handwriting. So I imagine people getting them and thinking, wow, this sticker is going to look so pretty, and then opening it

and pulling mine out, and it's like a, you know, it's like a... Mr. Policeman, I gave you all the clues. An angelic form with a demon bursting forth, because, like, my God, my penmanship is, it's good luck folks but uh but yeah i'll i'll i'll do that and send some other stickers as well um and yeah that you know don't worry about shipping or whatever just send me that screenshot that's mighty neighborly of you holly i think we should tell people a little bit about our business it's it's time it's time that they knew i know at last for instance today if you were a channel sips 6 subscriber that's channel dash 6.ghostio for you of the url inclination um you can look in any of our social bios and it's right there

There, but if you were a channel 6 subscriber, you would have gotten 3,000 hot words on rivalry weekend. 3,000, 3,000. Good ones. No chaff, no filler. Pure hot college football content. How many of those words were about Kirby and Brickie Hugging? About six. Not more than a thousand.

Yeah, 600, 700, something like that. There were a lot of tears. It was also a nice long digression on exactly how badly Indiana beat Purdue, something that we discussed on the full cast after dark. that I still think merits further discussion because, oh God, a perfect rivalry win in the most sadistic way possible. Yeah, Purdue's coach. Kurtzignetti is now a Krumer.

Yeah. He's now, he's now the sandman. He's literally out there with the cane, pulling people off stage, get the broom out. You don't get, think about that. Kurtzignetti's so good. He got to tell Purdue who their head coach was. Wasn't him.

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appreciate that you think we know that. We got the January show. And if you don't already have your ticket, sorry. Server, allegedly India is also a Zed country? I was wondering if maybe South Africa uses Zed or New Zealand maybe New Zealand is on this list I'm looking at just a copywriting website but New Zealand is South Africa or not interesting wow India that's a big pickup for the killer ants that's a

yeah that's a big one for us um as far as South Africa goes I guess you know better like next time maybe yeah killer ants big and carola big and carola thus concludes from a to z this edition of podcast business um that's the closing flourish i'd never heard notice that one before yeah we need a good tuba blat there um the schedule and championship weekend it's the easiest quickest look that we'll get all here short of The only time when we actually mention most of the games. The only time, yes. Most of the games.

Until, until ball season, of course. Yeah, the most important one being, that's right, Montana at South Dakota State. Damn, right. 1 p.m. Yeah, so, well, yeah, let's start it off with the FCS check. We got to, ooh, we got to root hard for our gris because they're going to South Dakota State. Damn. You don't want to do that.

But otherwise, otherwise. otherwise things set up quite well for a big sky conference best conference montana state number one seed is hosting u t martin which as roger sherman was pointing out earlier today fcs travel is just amazing like you do some shit like you know you win on one side of the country and there is no like uh regional pods like they do in basketball or whatever it's like fuck you you're going to bozeman um uc davis hosting illinois state that's far in random as well the winner of course is lehigh having to go all the way to the kippy dome these are their problems not mine that's like three flights one way yeah no no plane has ever done that before but no regional pots plenty of regional airports all this is good for the big sky conference so we approve yeah the best uh example of this ever was main having a short week in the playoffs to travel to eastern washington which is almost literally as far as you can travel without going to hawaii within the college football map um and like they lost by like 40 on the red fields

No surprise, but... Yeah, they had to cross the Arctic Circle to get there. Yeah. It might be quicker just to go around the other way. Montana and Montana State will both enjoy better weather than they had this previous weekend because there were like 48, 50 mile an hour winds for the brawl of the wild. And there was footage on TikTok of people's tailgate tents just like being blown to Canada. Just gone.

So enjoy that. Enjoy that, y'all. You've earned it. um on friday on friday it's the uh it's the appetizer menu but oh how delicious uh kusa we've got uh western kentucky at jacksonville state uh the amer the american which is going to be toulain at army yeah is intriguing as hell just because i don't know to lane Tulane looks super flat against Memphis and then they have to jerk their head

180 degrees the other way to play whatever bullshit Army is throwing at them which cannot be that cannot be an easy one to face yeah then it we're gonna miss the scenario that was setting up earlier in the year in which Army wins the conference

gains a playoff seed and then loses to Navy Army there's unless like beat to a lane by like a million points which they don't produce enough drives to do that the Mountain West is going to take the playoff bit but we came really close to that folks we did the

Mountain West Championship game UNLV at Boise State angling for that elusive playoff Barry Odom's music I hear sexy Barry Odom Barry Odom could make the playoff a year after being spurned

by Bobby Petrina yep Like, this isn't just Boise's chance at a, like, extremely long-delayed championship shot. UNLV could make the playoff. They're only a four-point underdog in this game. And, like, also, UNLV, it was, like, what, two or three months ago when it was quarterbacks leaving, by, and, you know, now it's pretty clear. I could speculate as to why the quarterback was leaving, because they seemed to have been quite fine without. them but uh i mean it it i i like it when the teams in the playoff were actually like part of the

story of the season you know um and boise state certainly has been unovie also has some subplots you know god that feels like it was so long ago they were the crux of conference realignment for like 48 hours so you know if if you and lv snipes this spot it's it it would feel like uh like you know like long-term storytelling and they were actually a part of the national deal rather than some random team tagging in. So, I mean, this should be a great game, and it's awesome that finally there's a playoff spot that one of these teams gets,

and they don't have to be perfect for it. You know, they don't have to check every box and then some. They just earn the way in. They don't have to justify their existence. They just won. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, love it.

Yeah, also, if we can root for something to happen, Ricky White, let's go ahead and block a punt. White Ricky! Yeah, Ricky White. Let's go ahead and get another one. You have another chance to extend your insane season's worth of block punts. And also to make yourself the most attractive individual to NFL GMs in the history of attractive football players. And that they'd look at him and be like, son, we can use you on special teams.

Ricky White is not white. I just, it's a reflex from, it's a reflex from the white mic era. From the white mic taste. Our beloved white mic. Yes. Ashton Genti currently sitting at 2,288 rushing yards. Oh, is that all? Extremely likely to pass Marcus Allen.

Could end up, I mean, shit, if they went absolutely wild and he had a 300-yard rushing day, he'd be second behind Barry Sanders with playoff stuff still to go. So, like, yeah, it's not the same number of games, but still. Did Barry sit out all of his second halves? you know. Barry said out a lot of stuff, but yeah. Yeah, there should be like yards per drive participated in or something. I bet Brian from Moe can whip this up for us without too much trouble.

Probably. That number is 2628, by the way, 2,628 yards. So if Ashton, Chinty wants to catch him. Babe, you've got to be on television. You got to start saying his name right. I'm sorry, Ginty. ginti is this because of the jinkos thing is this just a gene thing for you no i go too far the other way and then i'm like no overcorrect and then i just i end up fucking it up so yeah ashton

ashton ginty hope you don't fuck it up on television we'll all be watching we'll all be watching also parisander's total that year was uh minus the bowl game mm-hmm which was in which was in where Tokyo took to sure and in the Tokyo does playing in the Mirage Bowl. His real number was 2850. Soinks. So if you can get 600 yards rushing this game, Ashton. Do it.

That'll be awesome, man. How has UNLB's run defense been this season? It's better than 600 yards game. I think we should go for it. But you know what? Let's go for it. I want to see the quarterback's passing line up. Zero for zero.

We just gave the ball Ashton every time. Yeah, UNLV, they're 10th nationally in Russian yards allowed per game. Hmm? So. Something's got to give.

Probably not the record. Probably not the record. In the diametrically opposed school experiences, the Big 12 championship game, Iowa State, wholesome,

Heartland, versus Arizona State, who is, Arizona State. Unwholesome, filthy, heart-depraved. Heart or smart. Either one. A little egg white omelet, a little creatine, a little more creatine, some creatine.

45-minute sesh, max effort at the gym. Yeah, Arizona State versus Iowa State. The matchup everyone called for in the Big 12 championship game without any doubt, yes. Just like we drew it up. Mm-hmm. What's next? The Mac follows me on blue sky, so I have to buy contractually. I am obligated to mention them.

So before they ask, what about the Mac? Miami of Ohio versus Ohio for the Mac championship game. That is an imposter Mac, I'm afraid. Imposter Mac? Oh, good. No, I don't have to talk about this. Wait, the Mac on Blue Sky isn't really the Mac? Unless there's a brand new one.

That makes me feel better. Yeah, it was that account first encountered me. something about how bad Kent State was and it was replying to that and I was like I don't think the Mac would be replying to this no they'd be like yes they're very bad we don't we don't ever talk about Kent State that's good we fathered you calm down that means we can get straight to the game that should be a blowout but won't be Georgia versus Texas who should win this in a blowout I think Texas should based on all like based on everything that they've done outside of the Georgia game Texas should blow should blow Georgia out here

However, based on how they perform against every team except the team they're playing. Except the team that I with my own eyes saw get their ass beat on their home field by a particularly enraged Georgia team. So what I'm telling you is don't believe the numbers believe your eyes. Yeah. Sure. Texas is favored by two and a half. Sure. Whatever. Pick a number. Sure. less yeah um yeah it's for uh you know it's for the number two seed um yep that's about all the rest to make of it i like i don't particularly know any reason to expect it to be any different both of these teams have been a bit chaotic at times texas mostly only when they're playing georgia so short fields short fields were the key to this game for georgia and honestly the thing that has been leaning Texas is this.

The idea of them being that bad and allowing Georgia fields that short and turning the ball over like that two games in a row just seems improbable. Having said that, watch them cough up seven turnovers this game. I don't know, man. Yeah, I guess, for me mainly it's just

there have been more minutes of Georgia looking bad than there have been minutes of Texas looking bad. Right. Yeah. So, also Sarks probably dialed up so much shit after just imagine just imagine the the depths of the playbook he'll trawl after seeing what didn't work the first time outside zone outside zone outside zone outside zone outside zone that's how they beat texas an m they were like here

counter outside zone that's probably what i would lean on here too since apparently the last couple of weeks have shown us umass showed the way how do you really dominate georgia ask the football geniuses at UMass because they figured that shit out. Just run at them. As always, UMass, the silver surfer to Texas's Galactus. Ahoy there. I'm a feckin' Harold. Don't park your ass here. We're coming through. My guy's wicked.

hungry my guy the idea of referring to galactus is my guy's killing guy yeah my guy yeah it's big sully facker yeah it's like river bottom nightmare ben hey guys chuck's hungry daddy g get him a snack he went to donkey an hour ago but he's uh he's cranky i will skip to the acc game that everyone expected to be the championship skipping the sunbelt Championship? I am. For shame. Why?

Marshall? Do we know where it is yet? It's in Lafayette, Louisiana. It's in Lafayette. It is at the Popeye. Did we speak that? We sure do. Yeah.

Is the Popeye's, I thought they closed it or something. Is it back? Probably. Probably. I mean, they probably, it's probably not, nothing good happens. Now it's Heisenberg's Popeye's buffet. If it's observed, then we've messed up the observation from the start. So, yeah.

Okay. Yeah. so yeah this is a game that'll happen um i have lost track of which bowl bid goes where i'm assuming this is for an awesome one but uh but yeah i hate the timing of this why why is this the same time as the big ten championship and also the other power four championship put it like i don't know um find a time there's got to be a better time noon noon is fine mm-hmm people love noon better at least why don't you play late at night it's laugh yet be fun i think I mean, I rant about this every year, but I think the Mountain West Championship should go in last and be the close out.

And this year, like, how cool would that be? We'd find out the last playoff spot. And then, you know, do the, just make Friday night for all the other. Yeah. That's the biggest reason that I'm surprised it is when it is because the one thing that the steers of this sport care about at this point is the television product. And that would have been an amazing one. Yeah. Like that makes them, it's even weirder that they didn't do it because that makes the most TV sense to do it.

Let me frame all of this, that we could be finishing up an otherwise disappointing pair of night games. Boy, that's what this feels like they're going to be because these are just not teams that produce exciting results in different ways. We could be looking at, let's say that SWU just uncorks one of their 35 point first halves on Clemson out of nowhere. And we're going to blow out there or that it's some Clemson Dullard special, which is the name I have given to all of these 17, 10 games that they seem to be playing up and down the schedule. And then Oregon just smokes Penn State because I don't know. Penn State seems to be the kind of team that's like, we'd like to keep it in second gear the whole time.

And Dan Lannings like, Nitro! Uh, and then we're going to have nothing to watch. That's just, that's it. They're going to drop. They're going to stop. And we'll have nothing to watch afterwards. We could be just jumping straight into UNLV, Boise State at that point. actual compelling game drop stop and then no one will be opening up shop none nary an open

shop are all closed rough riders will have nowhere to roll the writing will be far too smooth it's dark that is dark and the schedule it's no longer hot hell is full and then all we do is um think about playoff rankings until sunday at noon instead we could be we could be watching Mountain West football, but no. Shit, this is where they should put the Bahamas Bowl. It's so hot. That's a good idea. Right there.

I'm not going to cannibalize too much 40 for 40 content, but have y'all seen what they've done to the Bahamas bowl? Do you know where it is? What have they done to our beloved Bahamas Bowl? It is Saturday, January 4th at 11 a.m. Meaning not only is it the last game before the semi. it's also competing with playoff NFL football just a little bit probably great plan a a real 11 a.m. Eastern situation I wonder so like is about what time zone is the Bahamas this is not things I'm wealthy enough to know what time zone is the Bahamas NFL pressure their

schedule I wonder if it's a lead-in game it looks like the wild card round starts the next week so like oh sweet the hell is going on that Saturday then that it needed to be so early it's it's youth soccer hour it's like so the fcs and now i'm i'm very into this now fcs title game this year is a monday night huh the hell are you all doing man yeah what's going on out here what get stop that frankly i got i got to go y'all