Shutdown Fullcast - College football's most rewatchable games

Episode Date: April 30, 2019

Did you know: there are no college football games scheduled to be played in May, or June, or July of this year. So we might as well talk about old games we enjoy rewatching. (We does not mean Ryan, who lives in a remote hamlet without access to electricity. Stupid, stupid Ryan.) Topics include: Welcome to the EDSBS Book Club, may god have mercy on your soul / College football games we all would watch right now / The time Oregon blew a 31-0 lead to a TCU team with a backup QB named "Bram Kohlhausen" / A review of infamous and inhumane beatdowns we would watch with glee POWERED BY BIG ANGEL ENERGY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the shutdown fullcast. Hi, I'm Spencer Hall, and this is the Internet's only college football podcast coming to you live from, I believe, we have a different arrangement of locations tonight. Ryan Nanny, typically one of the hosts of this show, will not be joining us. Jason, would you like to explain the unfortunate circumstances affecting Ryan Nanny and so many Americans who live in the most underserved cities of our nation. Unfortunately, New York City does not have the internet yet. Once they do get it, we will discover untold cultural riches that are there to be, to be, that just await the brave traveler, such as barbecued meats, such as college football

television markets, perhaps even a rapper, a rapper from New York City, if you can imagine it. I know no one has heard of such a thing for decades, but who knows what awaits when. once the internet finally discovers New York City. Those people are going to be unbearable. Probably. I'm sure they'll be fine. I know. I'm sure they'll admit where it came from and that it is only something that happens there.

I'm sure they'll be humble and respectful and acknowledge the rest of our country. That's something only Hicks do. Well, yeah, we have an Arby's right here in New York City. It's the best Arby's. We're all trying to be our best selves in the offseason, aren't we? Yep, we are, which is why we're focusing on self-improvement in a lot of ways. We're focusing on business opportunities, Jason, for one. Are you happy with where you got drafted last week in the NFL draft?

Yeah, I was one spot ahead of Mr. Irrelevant, so I'm Mr. Least Relevant, which... That was probably Daniel Jones of Duke, right? There's no, but sure. Actually, no. The NFL judged him to be extremely relevant, which is true, I guess. He is now. I guess it's a self-fulfilling kind of thing.

I think he's the first quarterback prospect I've ever seen who I'm like, that's just a retweet. That's it. Daniel, somebody was just like, please retweet Daniel Jones, and if he gets 10,000 of these, he'll be a first-round pick. Yo, my professor said,

if I get 100,000 likes, I get to be I think the best joke I saw about him I don't even know who made it but was he looks like the dude who was cast to play Eli Manning in the movie about Peyton and guess what

he is that's real I was sort of thinking I was sort of thinking that he looked like a second string dude perfect guy no there's a problem there's a problem with this he can't throw stuff

what if i what if i give him a hundred tries he'll complete about 53 percent okay that's listen that's better than dude perfect from the upper deck into a trash can right with a basketball i'll take my chances with that man i uh holly you have focused on another source of self-improvement hang on my dad's here yep everybody say hi to my dad who wants to look at this weird thing on my wrist. Hey, dad.

Hey, dad. Hey, I got bit by something on and identified, y'all. It's a Tennessee summer already. Oh, hell yeah. So you are, you're focusing on self-improvement via literature, right? Guys, I'd like to introduce tonight the shutdown full cast book club, for which I don't have a pun because I'm just too, too blown away by the material I've come to share. go on and i was trying to think about how to go about doing this and i've decided that what i'm

going to do is i'm going to drop the link to our first selection in the slack and i'm going to let you guys react to this in real time and then i'm going to tell our audience what exactly it is we're all looking at i'm playing i'm playing your theme song as requested for Book Club. Yeah, as I would like to, I'd like to introduce this first episode of Shut Down Fullcast Book Club, uh, full brains, full casts by celebrating with Garth Brooks Anthem about thank God for my hot wife. And the reason for that will be explained shortly. All right.

I'm about to open you guys look at this book while our audience absorbs the music for a minute. And you guys just react as yeah, however you see fit. Oh no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is very bad. This is very much bad. Sometimes I think of this book. No, no, I'm going to narrate. Okay, you take us away. I'm a little flabbergasted. You go ahead and keep reading. I'd like to thank you. Thank internet user Karta Monier for bringing this to our attention.

With the book, Souls Don't Lie, a true story of past lives, which the back of the book says, this is a thrilling romance adventure from the 17th century, but it's also true. Jenny Smedley's life was changed in the second she recognized a past life soulmate in American country music singer Garth Brooks. Under hypnosis, she began to recall the life they shared together in the 1600s. Memories came tumbling back, and she wrote this astonishing tale of love, sacrifice, murder, death, and renewal. She later found many points of confirmation of her story. That's good. I scrolled down looking to see if Garth is aware of this book,

and apparently the only quote he's ever made on the record is, is someone needs to explain this book to me. Is the cover of this book a pleasing lilac? Yes. Is the cover of this book? Also, the author of the book, hugging Garth Brooks, I guess, after a concert at some kind of fan meet and greet.

Also, yes. Is there a quote on the back, is there a blurb on the back of the book praising the author of the book from a man identified only as barefoot doctor? Also, yes. Yeah, I think I'm most interested in the quotes on the back. There's one by a person named Vicky York, who I've Googled that name, and there's a porcelain artist specializing in hummingbirds named Vickie York.

That's her. That's her. There's a real estate agent in Delaware. Could be the same person. The blurb on the front cover, which says, whether you believe in past lives or not, it's a fascinating read. I found every page exciting and exhilarating, and this is the end of the quote. It's just the entire sentence, must reading. And the quote, the quote is from Yuri Geller.

Do you remember that name? I don't. Yuri Geller was a 1970s magician, illusionist, and spiritualist, who I think was pretty well known into the 80s and into the 90s. He's the guy used to go on Johnny Carson and Ben Spoon. right? Like he would say, I'm just going to bend it with my mind and they would bend. And Carson embarrassed him on national TV by being like, hey, why don't you bend these spoons I have? And he's like, these spoons are sinister and evil. I cannot bend these spoons. Because he hadn't like weakened them ahead of time, right? They weren't Yuri Gellers like play spoons. Yeah, this is the con man who found souls don't lie. A true story of past lives by Jenny Smedley to be must reading. Like, this was already amazing when it found out someone had self-published a book of Garth Brooks fanfiction and actually gotten it into a bookstore. But then once you realize it's some kind of grift, it just takes on a whole new level. So it looks like this book, do we have any idea when this was published?

Not a clue. It looks like the author, Jenny Smedley, is on Twitter. Oh, good. Tell her to come on the forecast. Yes. absolutely do not do this I'm going to follow her from the forecast account

all right we're going to do this yeah there we go thank God for my hot wife who I knew in another life oh she's British okay under the name did you see the name of her in a past life and the name of Garth Brooks

in that past life I did not Ryan Fitzgerald her Twitter feed is a lot of retweeting Brian May talking about a cat. Mm-hmm. I mean, that's fair. Her website identifies her

as an award-winning angel expert. That's pretty good. We need those. I found some of her art. And a petition to make offshore wind farms connect to the grid. Wow. So she's an environment. So we're all reading this, right?

Oh, immediately, but after I get done looking at this art. Yeah. Is that Emotions era, Mariah Carey? It is. Okay. She has paintings of tree nymphs. This is all good. This is all good.

This is good content. Oh, my gosh. She has another book. Is my cat psychic? Answer. All cast are psychic, right? Yeah, they just don't tell you. I'm sorry, this is just an article.

I would advise full cast listeners to just leave this person in her, in her current national environment, observe her from afar, I think. Do not at this woman. Yeah, please leave this lady alone. Do not harass this woman. She's brought us enough joy. She's projecting angel energy into the world, and she needs to be allowed to continue that just as she is.

Also, to be clear, I 1,000% support anyone. who wants to write a book about how they romance Garth Brooks in a past life. And I will read any and all submissions from the audience. I'm most interested in the murder part that was mentioned on the back of the book. That is when we read this, that's probably the part I'll focus on the most. Like, is she defending pre-Garth? Also, if this is like a lay-miss scenario, is Trisha the Javert? You know what?

Trisha would find you. I'm telling, no, so that's, I trust that. She's going to get on, she's going to get on her cap, and she's going to get out her detecting tools, and she's going to find you wherever you are, Garth. It's going to happen. It does sound like a very detectivey name. What, Trisha Yearwood? Yeah, come on, man.

That's like an entire series. Somebody should write. Anyway, thank you for coming to this first episode of the shutdown full cast book club, uh, full cast, full bookshelves. Um, please. at me with any further instances of Garth Brooks' historic fanfic, historic only that you may find. Thank you. What about future-based?

I'm going to have to be very selective at first. I imagine we're going to get a lot of entries. We are open to expanding to future fic, but that's not on our docket at this time. Okay. Thank you. Thank you for your interest. I have a segue. because in talking about past lives and reliving them,

we asked you, the readers, this week, to talk about... That was a really good segue. You could have just said that without I have a segue. I always have to explain the joke, don't I? Mm-hmm. What is your most re-watchable college football game? This was the topic that we asked everybody today, because we wanted to ask this and then make sure we got it right.

Because there are a couple of games that I think are always, always mentioned. I'm just going to pull one off the top of my head. The one where Alabama had a second put back on the clock to lose. I'm going to take that, right? That's an all-timer. The 2006 Rose Bowl was the one that was mentioned in the tweet. That would be the one where Vince Young finishes across the line at the last minute to beat USC and win a national title for Texas, thus earning Mac Brown like all the money. Like all the, just so much money.

So much money. I don't have to wrap soundboard. I'm sorry. That's okay. Everyone just heard it in their head. Or Boise, Oklahoma. And I believe the 2007 Fiesta Bowl. That, these are all like obvious ones. But we wanted to dig a little bit deeper and also filter out some of you smart asses who would automatically put in things like,

Who, Iowa, Iowa, Penn State, six, four, you're never rewatching out. Yeah, don't write into this show trying to make yourself look smart. This is not the platform for that. I think it's your efforts appreciated. We get it, you know. Well, and an opportunity that the three of us will have that our listeners probably didn't have is to lay out our own criteria for what makes a rewatchable game, because I imagine they differ.

Ideally, they do. I think the reason this struck as sort of a good topic for this time of year, specifically, the NFL draft is over. Fall camp doesn't start for months. There is nothing happening in college football. And it's the time of year when, you know, hopefully you're taking vacations and so forth. Coaches allow themselves about 45 minutes of vacation. So shit, why not you as well? It's a good time of year where if you want to stay engaged with the sport, you're researching historical stuff, you're going

back and reliving games you might have missed, games you loved, maybe games you hated from a fresh light. It's just a good time of year all around for rewatching stuff. We just rewatched 21 comic movies and then saw a new one and then immediately rewatched it again. People just sit and it's it's nostalgia season. Hang on y'all. My dad made me some potion to put on this thing. Angel potions? I really do have a bite from an unidentified critter on my arm. that's Tennessee as hell I don't know what bit me but I'm going to find it I was distracted because I was this is very full cast I was just did because at the time of the of the injury we were frying fish on an outdoor gas hibati that has had the regulator ripped off

that to increase the flame that we have then set atop a picnic table smart it is my mother's birthday tomorrow. Nothing less than the best and most unregulated of flames. Correct. For Ms. Nancy. There is no burner hot enough for our love. Just a glorious Olympic flame. For my mom.

So I think sort of focusing in what we mean by rewatchability, not the obvious shit. Like, yes, Appalachian State beat Michigan. And it was an awesome game. Appalachian State beat Michigan, in case anyone has overlooked that fact at any point. Yes, that's good. That's high on everyone's list. And, you know, Michigan also played a zero-zero against Northwestern known as Moon. Again, we'll use these two Michigan games as sort of the bookends to say we're not going past either of those. Let's find the weird stuff in the middle that we would like to re-watch.

I would like to start with one that is an unquestioned classic. And I say that for a lot of extremely shut down full cast reasons. It involves a random act of nature. It involves not one, but two coaches who pass the, oh yeah, that guy ran a program for a long time.

How'd that happen? Test. And it passes the dudes we like to say their names, like we like to say their names, because you go, oh man, he was great. I'm looking at his stats and he actually wasn't.

But he was great. But I can't tell you why it was great. That would be at the suggestion of Brian O'Sullivan, at V. O'Sullivan 0,000, the 2000 Independence Bowl between the Mississippi State Bulldogs and the Texas A&M Aggies. Oh, that's a spicy choice. Man, what is greatness? Okay, two seven and four teams. Okay, I'm listening. I'm listening.

Yeah, you're going to come a little further down this path with me because it was the independence this bowl in Shreveport. Something weird always happens there. How weird? This time I'm going to lay it on you. Snow, a snowstorm, a driving snowstorm that was merely blowing gently before kickoff, might I remind you, in Shreveport, Louisiana. But then ultimately blowing with such force that it turned the entire field into a white blur. Do you know, do you know what the problem with that was besides footing and southern boys playing in a driving snowstorm? I wish you'd tell me. Well, surely both teams were wearing at least some dark elements to their uniforms.

You know, one might assume that so you could spot them. That would not be what happened. Mississippi State, per tradition. By the way, two kind of like, I don't want to say Texas A&M star crossed because they've been good right that they're there i think a historically frustrated program right when it comes to championships they're kind of in cells oh you're going to get some emails please send replies to this uh to this assertion to at 38 godfrey at 38 godfrey whereas mississippi state they just strike out like historically the the a cursed franchise that enjoys their time in the sunshine because it happens once every

30 years or so, right? And which team was wearing white uniforms in a driving snowstorm? That's right, the Mississippi State Bulldogs. Clangha! Clang a, baby. I really like these games that have somewhere years after the fact, an element that you can go back and add in that makes it even funnier or better or more epic or more interesting or whatever in hindsight.

And for me, that's Texas A&M later, joining the SEC, developing a yearly series with Mississippi State, Mississippi State breaking out all white uniforms in honor of this game, and A&M saying, no, we're not participating in that shit. We are not acknowledging that we played you in the Independence Bowl. I mean, but can I also do this? Not only did it, was it a driving snowstorm with one team wearing white, that team won, and that team won in overtime, in part because

an extra point was blocked and Mississippi State grabbed it, returned it, and during the return laterled the ball in a snowstorm to tighten the game up

and lead them to O.T. This was nuts. And the winning quarterback, 9 for 19 with 71 yards and a pair of TDs, baby. Efficiency. Wayne Madkin, SEC West Legend. probably the most wins for somebody who didn't throw for 100 yards

in the history of the conference. Wayne Madkin. Love that dude. Holly, did you have anything high on your list? I've got one that has an emotional component to it. Just in general, if I'm sitting back and rewatching a game, or if I'm saving games in the DVR and I go back and find a unifying thread, it's the high-scoring ones. Like, I don't want to wait around or have to zip,

through entire quarters. You know, I want something, these are kind of background for me, right? I want something interesting happening on the screen whenever I kind of look up. And the 2014 Baylor-TCU game holds a special place in my heart for several reasons.

The first one being it was, there was just a lot going on that week, but I have a special place for this one in my head because I remember it was a Friday night, game and it was it was kind of early on in our in our lifespan of love for the friday night games by which we were by which i mean we were all kind of like oh god the friday night game and i remember i was at i was staying at a hotel i think i was covering a georgia game and i was in the shower and i got out and i think i had missed like seven touchdowns and i

that just that that kind of stuck with me as like you know ducking back into brush my teeth and hearing and and swallowing toothpaste hearing what again because you can just kind of hear the cheers percolating through the bathroom door or whatever um but that's that's one that I'll put on just any time to see it cross because there was just I remember there it was one of those nights where everybody just got giddy it was a Friday there was not a whole lot going on and yeah I'll watch you know what, 120 points being scored on TV. Yeah, and also, also when you score that many points, both teams win, right? Correct. The idea of losing becomes irrelevant. It's just, okay, I don't know, someone's going to run out of time. These guys are awesome.

I'm just going to watch. And also with that one, that's another one where the historical hindsight adds some stuff to it because this really launched that rivalry. which had been kind of simmering for a while. And, like, it was essentially the most important game of that entire season other than the Big Ten championship. Yeah, that was going to be my next spring up. Then you kind of, you play that forward and, oh, boy, this one had the makins.

Also, 21 point Baylor deficit in the fourth quarter. I'm going to... Because what people forget about this game is that it isn't. ended on a field goal attempt. Yeah. And this is, hang on, my favorite quote, sorry, my favorite quote one more time, Bryce Petty at the end of this game,

after leading his team back from 21 points down to a tie and handed over to the kicker, Bryce Petty gets up on the podium after the game and goes, I don't think I could play kicker. That's too much pressure. In a related note, as referred to and reminded by F. Patrick at the timid donut.

That's a superb handle. He's a great name. Yeah. He recommends Patrick Holmes getting 800 yards by himself against Oklahoma and still losing 66.59 in 2016. There is a joy in this game and I will refer you to it so that you can watch it and not miss a single second of it. The camera and the producers, they start picking up Mike Stoops real quick.

real quick because that night Mike Stubes the brother of Bob Stubes they pick him up right when I think they go over the 400 yard mark

which is sometime in like the second quarter I think if I'm correct both teams have the same number of yards which is one of those extremely spooky things 854 each and Patrick Mahomes

by himself right he accounted for something like I want to say nearly 800 yards of offense by himself 819 819 734 through the air the all-time NCAA record for individual offense

it came it came just shy of being the highest highest yardage game in NCAA history any division yeah like it just tore apart of the record books this was the epit me of Big 12 football.

And I think, like, I mean, you look back, this was what, the 2018 NFL MVP versus NFL rookie of the year, right? Yeah. I might have that wrong. But, like, this game, it has gone from being the ultimate Big 12 shootout to being, like, you know, quite possibly the NFL, within the next few years, quite possibly the NFL's two biggest stars the time they met in college. And it was everything you could possibly hope for.

Yeah. And this goes both ways, by the way. like Baker Mayfield is out there. Baker and Patrick together have that Brock Lesnar Undertaker energy where they're just sitting on the mat and looking at each other, laughing maniacally. Like, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, watch me. And Baker Mayfield's performance is actually just as impressive

because Mahomes throws the ball 88 times, 88 times. And he gets 734. Baker Mayfield has 545, and he only, through the ball 36 times just bombs baby nothing but nonstop bomb ditty westbrook had 200 yards receiving this game does not let up and it's actually kind of hard to watch because they do start blurring into each other that's how little defense is being played wait i think i mixed up my baylor tc u games i don't think this was the friday game i think this was the midseason game this wasn't week one if it was 2014 i recall that being on a saturday i'm talking about the 24 it's definitely the

2014 game, but I remember, I think I'm misremembering that as a Friday game because it was I think you might be thinking of, of TCU Baylor on a Friday night, which was also bonkers. But yeah, like, I'm, I mixed up my different TCU Baylor Barnburners, but anyway, I'm pretty sure this one was on Saturday, because I'm definitely thinking of the year they got shut out of the playoffs. Life's funny and the Big 12 is not. Jason, you got one? I think 12's pretty funny. Anyway, I regret the error.

Y'all keep going. I think here is another example of one that at the time, the internet, you know, it stole the internet's attention. Completely everyone was watching this game, and it has since gotten even funnier. I do not recommend you go back and watch this one, but I just want to mention. Virginia Tech Zero, Wake Forest Zero, End of Regulation, Frank Beamer meme. This was recommended by Robert White 14 on Twitter. This falls under the sarcastic rewatch. But the thing I want to point out, this was a WakeyLeaks game,

which means Virginia Tech needed help to produce zero-zero at the end of regulation. Thank you. Let's see. One I really like from, I'm going to try this name, Yiel Park or Yale Park, probably. Cello Yale in Tempe recommends Oklahoma State, Iowa State, 2011. A great game, Friday Night Game, Friday Night in Ames, that has only gotten more epic in hindsight. This was essentially the game that killed the BCS.

This is the game that kept Oklahoma State out of the title game, and within months after the season's end, they were already coming up with names for the playoff. In and of itself, it's a great game. It's an epic game. But, like, it's context within college football history. I mean, I don't, maybe it gets overshadowed by LSU Bama round one and LSU Bama round two.

too, but I would absolutely re-watch this game right now. I would. Yeah, as much as I love high-scoring, I absolutely would too. There are a couple of Cam Newton games on my list, and I was reminded of my personal favorite by Amos Moses at James Jones 55. He recommended 2010 Auburn, Arkansas. Even if I still want to murder Ted Roof in the third quarter, That's the full Ted Roof experience.

If you got it, you understand. If you don't, you know, if you know, you know when it comes to the Ted Roof experience. That game was all kinds of drugs. Man, that game, listen. The Arkansas was leading, all right, deep into the second half, when Auburn going into the fourth quarter just drops a 28 spot. I absolutely love, and I will rewatch. any game where a team decides

at the very end to not just take control of the game but to swat the person off the top of a tall building and that's exactly what Cam Newton does at the end of this game. I'd watch the same also 2010 Auburn Alabama, the Camback

oh yeah watch that whole thing over again that final in the game by the way 6543 occasionally y'all the SEC West if Alabama's not involved they just get loose it happens yeah all the SEC stereotypes basically to apply to like Bama's defense LSU's offense Florida's office and that's it everything else

gets really stupid parts of Arkansas in weeks that you can't predict in ways that are never good for Arkansas never yeah that's all or or at least entertaining oh my God I would I would also completely rewatch as at Keep It Up guys aka Jake recommends people forget the 2017 Iowa Hawkeyes 55 Ohio's Big Ten Team 24

Go back and rewatch this It is shocking how confused Ohio State's defense is Wait but we did get to rewatch this Wow It'll come back around again Who do they play from the Big Ten West this year Nebraska Give it another time

it'll come back around again. Watching Greg Shiano's defense just come apart at the seams at the hands of, it would be different if they'd come apart at the seams, you know, under pressure from a master craftsman, right? Like when Kellynne Moore played the University of Georgia, right, for Boise State to open what I believe is the 2010 season, 2009, somewhere in that? I think 11. 11.

You know, it was within three. years when they played to open the season and kellen more was basically audibling at the line every play and hitting it was i was at that game were you i forget i remember we we all were and i remember a conversation in the press box about like how many unguardable white tight ends does this team have the the thing i remember though is watching like is is watching Kellemore play in week one like I think cerebral is probably the sports writerly word to it but when I say cerebral I mean you couldn't really see any of the moving parts on Boise it was like they were all part of it was it was like they were

all extensions of his limbs yeah and there was just no there was I remember just no hesitation or looking side to side or really even like necessarily making making eye contact between Boise players. Like they were playing like a hive mind is the thing I remember most about that game. It was like watching Groot play quarterback. Yes. Yeah. It was absolutely terrifying watching him in pale, Georgia's poor middle linebacker.

He made this call. Like, he kept calling a Texas route out of the backfield. That's a little angle route. And the poor middle linebacker did not know whether to go into run support or cover this Texas route. Like, he called that audible, like, like, like maybe eight times in that game. And I thought he was going to cry.

It was absolutely miserable watching what he did to that defense, which was, by the way, physically superior to nearly everybody on the Boise State offense. And it did not matter. I would rewatch that today and laugh heartily. We had a lot of people recommend games from 2007, obviously. One that got recommended, I think, a bit more than I expected. not that it doesn't deserve it, but just I didn't realize

that so many people enjoyed it that much as Mazu, Kansas. Obviously, this was a fucking national title play-in game. Basically, there would be one more stumbling block as the winner of this game would discover. But yeah, I mean,

considering the circumstances, this game basically never, ever matters, and suddenly it did as much as it possibly could. It's in Kansas City. The center of the college football universe Arrowhead Stadium and it comes down to the end

Todd Racing has a chance to go for an 89-yard drive to get the win and then you get the iconic image of him face buried in the turf. We still love him though. You know I love that this game emerged from that madness

as like one of maybe two or three truly iconic games from that season. I would also rewatch, like, for sure, on the recommendation of, on the recommendation of, oh, God, I had it here. Pardon me. Pardon me. I would rewatch Ohio State Bama 2015, not the recommendation of at Riley Steel 11, because that is an ass kicking. That is Alabama getting their ass tracked up and down the. field. I know

Clemson beat them by a larger margin, but I don't think a team has beaten Alabama up quite as badly as that Ohio State team view. Ezekiel Elliott ran for like 200 yards, which is shocking. Is that the haunted downhill shopping cart game? Yes, that is haunted

downhill shopping cart game. Different than the runaway beer truck game. Another game I would watch. West Virginia has several I would rewatch. That is undoubtedly one of them. Extremely West Virginia. and because they all ultimately end in tragedy. And how did everybody, how did everybody come out of that game five years later?

So if you take every Nick Saban-era-Bama loss, let's go through them real quick. How many of those, it won't take long, but we treasure it. No, no, reader, it won't. How many of those feel truly replicable? Like if these two teams played again, that's actually a great point you know like

well for example I happen to make a post listing amount we'll skip the 2007 ones because like you know it was for year one number six no no no let's go through those there's a great one in there

number 16 on the list is an easy answer they beat LSU in 2011 well we saw it happened in around two you see what I'm saying like if you beat saving once then I think I know which 2007 one we'll get to that

okay uh they lost to florida in oh eight then they beat florida in oh nine you know what i'm saying uh we can skip ahead skip ahead but like i think i think when spencer's getting at is about the ohio state one is that is one where they they suited up they met again ohio state wins again you know oh yeah no like seven out of ten yeah like if they play uh step and garcia again they beat him by 20 points. You know what? If they play Trevor Knight again, they beat Trevor Knight.

I don't know about that South Carolina one. And this is why. Latimore had 100 yards. I think he had almost 100 yards. And that was what opened everything up. Also, they couldn't guard, they couldn't guard their wide outs. Like, they could not bring, like,

Bama's like, well, we'll make you defend one-on-one. Sparrier was like, well, about that. Here, try that. Is that working for you? All right. Like, you do the kick six game over again. What are the odds that that happens again? It would be funny if it did.

But what are the, and even this past title game. Sure. Clemson might have won, but 44 to 16, you're going to hit all those third downs. You know, Bama's going to miss on all those third downs. The odds are slim, right? So like Clemson might have won, but like that, no. The Ohio State one, I think that stands out as one where like, that was no, there was no deception. It could have been, it was 42, 13.

was the final score. Could have been way worse for Bama. Yeah, because again, Clemson beat them this time by passing and passing primarily against one or two corners who could not keep up and by converting very long third downs. Go back and look at that Alabama, Ohio State one.

Ohio State straight beats their ass with the run game first. Also, this counts as our entire year of praising Ohio State. Hope you enjoyed it. Please make a note for your records. Do not add us. we have fulfilled the quota we will not be not be going back um have have we defended uh ls u nine

bama six recently we have not i will because that game is fucking awesome it is man it's brutal i will also take like i will take any number of of early 2000s alburn ls u games where a kicker misses like five no goals or something right like colt david i will take any of those games where they had to change out all the face masks and the score was something like 10 to beta right there wasn't even a number involved like any of those knocked down drag out hot as hell miserable like pain fest i will take any of those they're entertaining and and to me like bama nine six that's less miles masterwork right there there's what about one where like you would rewatch it but only if you could like

have recorded what the internet was doing throughout you know what I mean we're like where the second screen was where much of the entertainment was the one I'm thinking of is Oregon Florida State Rose Bowl which this this was recommended by listener Michael Hogue and by host Spencer Hall but Also, we know Ryan likes this game a lot, as does everyone else. So we'll throw him in that as well. I was at this one, too, and I did not get to do enough interneting, especially at the moment we're all thinking of.

Yeah. I don't even think I was online because I was grabbing my own face at the moment of the great pinwheeling to Earth. And that's a regret. That is a regret I have, yeah. Yeah, because I'm just going to, like, the great thing most people remember from this game is James Winston. chasing an invisible shopping cart into the backfield, right?

Because it was going to hit an invisible car in the parking lot, and you don't want to leave a note, and he fumbles. And Oregon, which it felt like Oregon had like 18 defensive alignment on the field every play. At least that's what it looked like. Yeah, it's absolutely beautiful. Go look at the box score. The best part about this is second half.

Oh, man. the second half Oregon puts on 41 points. 41, that's 4-1 in the second half. Florida State, Florida State puts up

7. 7, y'all. God, it's beautiful. That vaunted Oregon defense. Yeah, hey, that was an SEC crew called that game. They'll remind you of that. Florida State fans were like, they had it in for us. I'm like, for 39 points. 39 before

Yeah, because if there's one thing we know about SEC referees is that they're always in the bag for Florida. Ah, you know, and by the way, the Rose Bowl parade, guess what the theme was before Oregon, a Pac-12 team absolutely skull-dragging

the Florida State Seminoles by 39 points on national TV? Guess what the theme of the parade was? Margaritaville. Yeah, no. That would be an amazing. Rose Parade and I just wanted to say it out loud. Thank you. Garth Brooks.

Inspiring stories. Okay. True. Our themes are all better than this. What the fucking kind of a theme is that? Yeah, what? Inspiring stories. Well, what is it usually? Do they have a list? Is there a wiki of this? Wait, we should look this up. Rose Bowl Parade themes.

Well, Pasadena afraid of B. Yeah. Shit, yes. All right. Let's go reverse Kron. The power of hope. The melody of life.

That's actually a great Rose Bowl theme when you're playing Mark D. Antonio. Making a difference. Echoes of success. Was that a Notre Dame year? I was going to say I'm actually going to match these up. You say the theme. And I will say I will find the game.

And we will decide whether it matches. All right. What about Pasadena's early unbursed? broken years of it's great to be white speaking of the first one was patriotism

yeah there we go I don't understand why they try and cloak it in other things like Pasadena's not been shy about this in other ways let's see

how about Spencer can you give me a game for kids laughter and dreams what year was that 1996

1996 the 1996 the 1996 rose bowl laughter kids and dreams okay yeah the laughter and dreams

of kids oh okay definitely this is appropriate because it's 4132 USC over number three northwestern wow

yeah because it's a dream that you would ever get to the Rose Bowl much less win which they didn't let's see did you guys know that the rose bowl was originally founded to help fund the rose parade yep life's funny yeah anyway the number of people who ride hard for that parade is just astonishing it's insane enchanting people sit and watch the shit like people wake up early to watch it from afar i got to see my i got to see my roses on week people get up to watch it like

it's a noon big 10 game Again, I watch wrestling. Any critiques I have of anyone else's taste or Nolan Void. Can we go 1968, Rose Bowl? Wonderful World of Adventure. Oh, this is going to be a funny one, I think,

if it's what I remember it being. That's the 2000 Rose Bowl when Wisconsin beat Stanford. It should be, but the actual 1968 competition was USC 14, Indiana 3. What a wonderful world.

Yeah, and by the way, what a wonderful world. The running back- What was the theme the year Syracuse went? Real quick, that 1967 game, guess what the running back was? Is that OJ? That's OJ Simpson. I'm going to just go ahead and preload one for you here. Syracuse, do we mean Illinois by chance?

Yeah, that one. the orange and blue one that was 07 right so it would have been 08 I think it was the game that was played on 08 yeah so it would have been 08 the 07 so that one is the passport to the world's celebrations brought to you by

Illinois spectacular I'll give you my other favorite Big 10 demolition in there which the theme for this one would be find your adventure which is something Iowa certainly did when they lost

by a score of 4516 to Christian McCaffrey in Stanford. Wait, did that say Finder Avenger? Because that definitely sounds like a Hawkeye game. That's So this

is pretty good, and it's something that I could picture the announcer of this game saying Vince Young to the corner, he's got it. It's magical. Which was actually the theme of the

2006 game. Yeah, according to Wikipedia. This is amazing, by the way. Like, I, somebody is paid to think of these, right? Like, there's a branding. Probably millions of dollars. Oh, there's a whole committee of Garden Club

ladies that comes up with these. My favorite, 1998. Having Fun with Haven's spelled HAV-A-V-A-V-A-Postrophe N. Having Fun, a great way to describe the Washington Michigan 21-16

game where Wazoo was wrong. That ain't fun. Yeah, well, you know, they didn't have, they didn't even get a full heaven, which is a very wazoo thing, right? Like, they're drunk, use a contraction. How about, 1995, all caps, sports, quest for excellence. This was Oregon losing by 18 to Penn State. That's the John Boy's game.

That's the just sports. I mean, this all sound like stuff. 1991, fun games. I do remember John, remember you know when they always set up like a little fake sports bar in the in the hotel for the rose bowl and i remember i don't even remember what the name it's like the name of the sports bar at the rose bowl is granddaddies and at one one year when we were there i sent a photo of it to john boys and he just text back where the score is always valued a fun man a sports bar named grandddies is pretty dope

it was not no it should be though right like it should have cribbage and uh let me tell you who they were letting into this sports bar and then you can decide how much fun it was i can imagine that i have another bowl game it is not the rose bowl but it is oh my god it is a banger okay if i'm just going to give you circumstances and you're going to tell me what it is because you're going to nail it all right uh one a team coming back from being down 31 zero at the half. Oh, we're going to

the Alamo Bowl, right? That is correct. Was this the Gary Patterson shirt change game? Yes, sir. The Gary Patterson shirt change game that we know about. Lord knows how many shirts were actually

changed in this game, right? Like Gary P. might have just had the constant like shedding like a shark with teeth. He might have just been like replacing them. But Gary Patterson was soaked at halftime, went in, changed into clean clothes, and facing a 31-0 deficit, took the long march all the way back, blanking Oregon in the second half, allowing zero points.

Zero! Nada! Sips-up zero! To the Oregon ducks to come all the way back, scoring 31 at regulation, and then winning it in single OT? No, double OT? No, this is a Texas size bowl, y'all. You got triple OT, a 47-41 win for TCU.

If I had been a player on this team and this had happened and I was on the field celebrating the win, my head might have exploded. I would have broken down crying in a bowl game. This is amazing. Also, this is a walk-on quarterback. Do you remember the, do you remember the starter in this game? I'm sorry, the, the guy who had to sub because Trinvon Boykin was suspended.

Yeah, and this is, like, every year, your TCU is on, like, its ninth quarterback in its bowl game. Do you remember why Trouin was suspended for this game? Was this a DUI? Bar fight! Bar fight, okay. At the bowl game. He got to a bar fight in San Antonio. First of all, that's dope at the bowl game.

that's dope as hell what i'm going to san antonio to get to tussle that's leadership damn it that's lead exactly that's a fight in spirit bram colehausen the immortal bram colehousin put it on his shoulders and it took him two quarters to get going but led tc u back i would watch that game i might watch that game after we get off this call uh i said 2007 had two or three iconic games.

Obviously, it's dramatic undersell. I think another one that must be mentioned is LSU, Florida. It was like one of a streak of LSU, Florida. Bangers. I was like, man, which one? This was the one where LSU had to convert like 95 straight fourth downs. 2007, converting, I believe, six of seven or five of six. Yeah, they just converted.

They just, just millions of fourth downs. and finish with big j keester plowing ahead that was the best because i was at that game and it is still the best game i have attended in person and even walking out of the stadium the result was completely irrelevant complete like like he was like oh man somebody somebody was like oh hey man good game and i'm like yeah that was a good game that was great no good game because you lost i'm like was there a result really are any of a us here. It finished 28, 24, but really, aren't we all tied going into overtime with joy? All of us? This is a classic, like a classic game in so many ways. It's a classic LSU game

because with all the talent in the world in the backfield, they just gave the ball 23 times to a giant lunk-headed Cajun dude who was displaying advanced male pattern baldness at the age of 21, Jacob Hester. why are you going to bring that up because you could see it through his helmet that's how bald he was right man we're like we're glad okay okay and he was like you're just like oh man that guy's bald as hell you can see it through the helmet and I was right yeah and Trevon Boykin allegedly cracked his girlfriend's jaw but we were going to skip over that to make jokes oh I thought it was a bar fight it was a bar fight for the bulk of that time yeah sure oh okay yeah I was specifically confining the the part that was funny. Your football players, please stick to doing bar fights at the bowl games and not these

other things. Yeah, just fight each other at bars. Yeah. Fesitive bar fight where nobody really gets hurt. Good. Everything else, bad. Don't do it. Right? Jacob Hester destroyed a second and it was amazing and that was

I think the total number of times that they went for it on fourth down. Yeah, so they were five for five. that's a cult of less game that's a full like less Miles is a sorcerer kind of game no regrets by the way like if they went back and played that again

and I knew Florida was going to lose I'd still watch it it's the best game I've ever seen a joyous experience all around it is a lot of fun to rewatch games that you were at like the best game I've ever been to was the most recent Penn State USC Rose Bowl from a few years ago

and yeah that's a lot lot of fun to, like the long, long, winding Saquan-Barkley run all the way to the kick at the end. That's a game I would re-watch right now. Holly, have you ever been at a game and then seen it later on TV and gone, oh, man, I totally missed that, or that was way different than I thought? I got to go back to the Georgia Boise State game because seeing that from kind of the press box angle was way, way, way different.

and the ability to see that with overhead angles? Yeah. I could see that. But it just serves to reinforce the no, these people are all moving around like possessed ants in an ant farm. Yeah, because I remember I rewatch that game and it looks much calmer on TV, right?

Like it looks more coordinated on TV. And in person, you can hear them and see them and go like, okay, do this. No, no, no, we're going to do this. Right. I would also recommend, if you can, any one of the Notre Dame Miami games from the late 80s, PVM 33, what's up?

You recommended this? Any one of those games. The one where they fought in the tunnel, which I believe is the 88 game, the Convicts v. Catholics series, watch any of those. They are delightful, especially because Miami Miami this is pre-celebration penalty rule Miami so you get extended entertainment you get

you know you get dance breaks in the middle of plays it's it's ridiculously entertaining that's about as far back as I'll go in terms of games there is one game I really wish there was footage of and I don't think there is a good copy of this game but if somebody had this game I would watch it like right now all right and that would be that would be

the 1969 Archie Manning game against Alabama do you know what Archie did in that game like remember like Archie I'm about to this was a prime

this was a this was October it was it was weird because they actually put it on national TV, and it didn't start until late. I don't think it started until like 10 p.m. Eastern, right? So please imagine this, by the way.

America drinks a lot less than it used to. Imagine Alabama, Ole Miss, 1969, a kickoff that doesn't happen until 10 Eastern, 9 Central, right, in Oxford, Mississippi, in 1969. There's a lot of people who don't know how to act at that point. might not even realize they're human all right the final of this game i believe it's 3332 and archie manning i mean most people if they go back and look at archie manning and they think about pey and eli fleet of foot would not be the word for it but this is a game in 1969 where

patin manning i'm sorry where archie manning throws 52 passes he has 436 yards he has two t ds he runs for 100 yards on just 15 carries and he scores three times. So think about like in 1969, dude has 540 yards total offense. He has five TDs all by himself. That is, and that was the first time anybody had done it. And he did it in 1969 against Alabama. I think the oldest games that I might go back, like it would be, you know, it would be cool to sit down and watch at least a little bit of like the very important old shit

the 1945 army navy and the old notre dame michigan state games that decided titles and all that all that shit but like i think the oldest one i would actually that would actually be watchable would be like barry sanders's games even though you'd probably fast forward through when oklahoma state is uh on defense but oh anything before that i'm probably man you want you you want the 88 edition yeah yeah right yeah yeah Yeah, you want the 1988 game because that's the game that finishes 5148 and O T. And that's the one where the Sooners have to come back in the fourth quarter. And I think Barry finishes with an obscene, obscene amount of yardage.

Like, I will have to look it up. He has, yeah, he had 215 yards in that game. And every single run, by the way, is jaw dropping. like he he puts two dudes on the turf just juking them on every carry it is nuts um and that team by the way just if you forget barry sanders backed up thurman thomas oklahoma state had nothing but fire in that backfield nothing and and oklahoma state had a wide receiver with one of the best damn names i have ever heard mike gundy throwing two hart lee dykes Hartley Dax, wide receiver at a Stillwater, Oklahoma.

Yeah, the 88 game is the one you want. You can watch, I've seen like an abbreviated version on YouTube. I'm saying I want all the Barry Sanders games. That's fair. That's fine. Yeah, there's, like, so if we're looking here, just comparing what he did versus what teams gave up on average, it jumps out that the A&M game might have been special. the Nebraska game might have been special

like these are ones where he was like putting up far more than like these were good defenses or at least decent defenses and he was lighting him up for almost 200 yards my favorite stat is Wyoming usually allowed 118 rushing yards per game

and Barry hit him for 22 while by himself that might be a good one Texas Tech of course had a shitty defense so he ran for 332 sure I'll go with that i'll go with barry sanders versus texas tech any era any texas tech defense ever that let's just sick barry sanders on him and see what happens hey holly do you have one that's just like your pick where you go listen i don't know if anyone else would take this one but i would rewatch this one

for fun not off the top of my head but it sounds like you do i'm mulling between i'm mulling between to um and the one i will watch because i think it just had the best like this is purely sentimental on my part and i'm going to take it because uh the joy that i feel even thinking about this game is is radiant wasn't florida's best thing that i was going to ask is if there is there a game that you want to rewatch even though it turned out badly for your school or concern yeah yeah i think there are a couple like i would rewatch 2007 lSU florida like that's the obvious one that we've already talked about, but I would also rewatch I would rewatch any of our games against

LSU or LSU pull some insane shit right? Like the John, like the Les Miles Bounce Pass field goal fake field goal like I would totally watch that I would watch it was a brutal

brutal game but I would rewatch the 2001 Tendacy Florida game. I'd watch honestly I'd watch I'd watch the 98 I'd watch the 98 game too, because both of those games are just, they're so, they're so tense for me. Man, if you want to talk

about, if you want to talk about games that no one else would pick, I've kind of got to go with Lane Kiff and beating Steve Spurrier on Halloween. Oh, he was mad. Oh, man. Oh, that man was real mad. And they had ordered black

uniforms for the team, but they hadn't come in in time, so they were wearing, like, practice uniforms that looked like trash bags, basically. Yeah. And, oh, man, yeah, and they beat Spurrier. And, yeah, Lane Kiffin is undefeated all-time versus Steve Spurrier. You may have heard that. And regardless of my feelings about both, man, that's hilarious. No, that's the like, Jason, do you have one that you're like, listen, this may not be for

everyone, but for my refined palate. I think, well, I know this entire fan base would pick this game, but so in the 80s, early 90s before Florida State came around, the ACC was pure shit. It sucked. You can go back and run the numbers. It was absolute ass. There were years when it really did not deserve to be considered by modern terms a power conference. So an ACC conference game, boy, it better be a fucking banger. 1990 this is my first year really really being introduced to to football like I watched a little bit of it

1989 but I remember 1990 was like okay I'm indoctrinated into this thing I am a fourth generation Atlanta and I have been handed Georgia Tech as my team rank number 16 going to Charlottesville Virginia's number one Herman Moore like and this game comes down to comes down to a field goal at the end Tech wins, undefeated, you know, on course for a national title, and then they jump all the way up to 7th. Yeah. Because the ACCC was total shit, and they validate it by beating Virginia Tech 6 to 3 the next week.

But, yeah, just that indoctrination into the sport of, oh, cool, this team I've been handed, just kind of won a national title. That's cool and weird. Everything will be fine from here on out. I'm sure my teams will win lots of championships. that was a little bit of I have gone back and watched this Georgia Tech Virginia game at least parts

of it several times just what a weird thing to have happened I will also I will follow up the 1999 edition of Georgia Georgia Tech that finishes 5148 an app just a

bonkers game absolutely nuts like that Georgia Tech team by way played a couple of those like especially when they got to it with Clemson and oh yeah no this is that game is is deranged i think in the the private stock division where you go here let me let me show you something let me show you something my tastes are unconventional right when you come in when you come into the dungeon with me

and i share my secrets with you okay that took a bad turn for all of us on safari I'm very sorry about that. This sounds like we're going to like a 6-4 type game, but no. No, no, no. It's going to be even worse than that. No, it was, it was, no, it's, it's fairly conventional, but it was the passion and the mounting, like. Please choose your words carefully. It was the mounting rage.

Mounting passion. Yeah, this is taking it. The next words out of your mouth better not involve the coach. I think they're going to involve. 2007 Navy Notre Dame. God. Oh, talk about mounting passion. Because this is, this is, this is when Navy.

Just, just four decades of pent up passion. Wait, 07, that's the, that's the Ram Vila game. This is the Ram. That's the Ram Villa cruise missile game. Yeah, I'll sign on for that. Oh, oh, I don't know if I've, like, you know, like, and I'm remembering this because I did watch it on TV. And there are the moments where. You know, I can be very interested in a game, and you both watch games with me.

I will, like, marking out for a team that is not my team, it's got to be a, it has to be something particularly special. I was screaming at the TV when this happened because Ram Vila, Ranvila seals the game with a flying tackle, like he was. He flies like he's been launched out of a cartoon canon. Yeah, like he hits one of those martial arts movies, spring. boards. No, he looks like Wiley

Coyote. It's magnificent and stops Notre Dame on a fourth and short. This is a game, by the way, where if you want, if you want to know the complete definition of full hearts, clear eyes, two by four in the pocket, mouthful of kerosene can't lose.

This is a Paul Johnson Navy team. This is a triple O.T. And this is a game where Paul Johnson has to go for two and third O.T. they got it like it's not even a question it's just oh yeah no man we got this it also as just a little it's just a little marasino cherry on the top of all this on this particular sunday um this puts

notre dame at one and eight on the season also this snapped a 43 year losing streak for navy against notre dame forty three i cut okay i know we did this right because i actually want to go back and watch this game right now oh god Like as soon as we're done, I'm going to go look for this game. Yeah, I, this is... This is also right after we started writing together, wasn't it? Yeah.

This is the first time I remember... This is one of the very first games I remember watching with an internet community and just watching everybody lose their minds. Oh, yeah, no, this is... This would have been a Twitter high watermark if Twitter had been around at the time. Navy Highwater.

Yes, yep. Anchors away, y'all. I like on the wiki page, Charlie Weiss, who was the coach of Notre Dame, and who had recently got a big contract extension, if I recall correctly, that Notre Dame would continue paying for several years after they fired him for sucking. He was asked if losing to Navy for the first time since 1963 was a low point, and he says, A low point is when you get beat 38 to nothing. That's a low point.

Let's see, did Notre Dame also pull that off this year? Yes, they did. That was the score against Michigan. So he was saying, look, things are looking up, and that was also the score against USC. So you're telling us, Charlie Weiss has always been like this. So Notre Dame had a lot of low points. The guy knows what he's talking about. I would, I want to close out on this.

patting the dirt yeah let's do it are we yeah is this the Miami patting the dirt yeah I mean if we're going ahead if we're talking you you can

let your mind wander and select one from the catalog of fine beat him down oh no I'm talking about the I'm talking about the title game that took place in Miami which one the pat the dirt game is the Bama and Notre Dame title game.

Oh, God. Yeah, I suck. That is... Like, that is actually one that I went back and watched after sitting through it in real life because I was not able to absorb it all real life. I had to do the same thing with...

Like, I sat through the 70s, the 70-point West Virginia Clemson-Orensen Orange Bowl, and I don't remember much of it because it was so hard to take in all of that. It was so hard to take in all of that. It was so hard to take in. and everything that was happening in real time that I appreciated the ability to pause

and catch my breath when I got home. My favorite beat down of all time is the Notre Dame Alabama one. Like, objectively. That is just the complete, well, that first drive, if you watch the first drive, it's like watching somebody drive, it's like watching somebody try to tackle the truck

at every position. They're like, well, there's a truck over here. And the point at which the Notre Dame line starts fighting itself? Yeah, yeah. Like the most competition Alabama faced in that game was between A.J. McCarran and the center. The one that played the violin, yeah. And you can, you can zoom in and see Notre Dame's defensive tackle start hopping around in joy. Like, finally, they're taking damage.

Like he's hopping and pointing like, look, look, we did something. we made them real mad y'all we were we were adjacent when a bama person got punched and hurt uh 1997 sugar roll between florida and florida state because the score uh going into the half was 2417 this was following one of the dirtiest games in the history of this rivalry uh florida state beat florida 2421 if you will watch it uh peter bowling like you can hear the whistle go to end the play and peter bulwere immediately like kicks roundhouse kicks danny warful in the nuts like just that's that's the whole game it's just them spurier being so stubborn he doesn't want to line up in shotgun putting him under center and getting

danny warful uh put through every station of the cross right during that game just got him annihilated in that game they come out for the bowl game which is a rematch between florida and Florida State. Boy, that would be real popular now, wouldn't it? Our system's broken. These two teams have already played in what was then the Bowl Alliance Championship. And Spurger

comes out in the gun, and Worckel gets the ball out by like two seconds. Like there's no, it's just go. Just every single go. And in the second half, Florida State can't keep up with it. They score 28 straight points. Danny Werfel scored a rushing touchdown. I think he ran like a good 5-240

on his best day. he scores a rushing touchdown this game. That's what NASS beating it was. And this is the beat him down that personally I would watch right now.