Shutdown Fullcast - Everything After the FCS Championship Will Be a Letdown

Episode Date: January 7, 2026

Let's talk about the ACC of the NFLLet's also meet the Earl of St. Petersburg Ryan talks about attending the game of the year, where someone did not show him all the cows on their phone Ryan also talks about going to the Rose Bowl, where 60,000 Indiana fans saw how bad Alabama was Ryan might be the center of the college football universe this year, actually Miami is the only team that has solved football with the innovative strategy "get quarterback, no pass" "beating a team twice is hard" is one of the biggest lies in sports The SEC should probably stop getting bounced from the playoff if they don't want people to talk about them getting bounced from the playoffThis episode was produced by Michael Ray SurberFullcast theme variant arranged and performed by Wes HuntDID YOU KNOW: Spencer and Holly write Channel 6, a year-round newsletter that is mostly about football, until it’s notBefore the world ends (again), treat yourself to Jason’s critically praised novel and other workTravel in your mind palace to Phantom Island, Ryan’s new show with Steven Godfrey, which is not a college football show because another simply cannot existCheck out Surber’s band Killer Antz and his new show Podcasterino

Spencer, before you jumped on, last week, Gene Deckerhoff announced that he's retiring after this season. This was before the Falcons eliminated the bucks from the playoffs. God, strongest soldier. But yeah, so he had been there. So here's from the Buccaneers' own page. Decker-off will have called more than 800 Buccaneers games. What year did he start? He joined the organization in 1989.

Okay, so he missed the worst of it. Like, yes, it's not, it's not 1976. No, but let me. Here, here, all right. My entire life has been Gene Deckerhoff, Bucks calls. He still joined, like, at the beginning of the Testaverty administration. Hold on. Do you know how many years they had to go before they got one winning season under Gene Deckerhoff?

Yeah, I'm, I'm going to hearers. Eight. Not, yes, the night, his ninth season, they win ten. six his ninth eight two presidential administrations of garbage and this they were in the nfc central at this time too okay yeah yeah he's coming in taking over the bucks job because like calling the bucks i think is more of a job than coaching them you know like coaching them is like ah they'll get rid of me in eight minutes yes yes um whereas calling them you are the witness of this you are the one who must chronicle all of this bullshit um but this is following after the

The Tampa Bay Bucks were, like, the worst team of, like, the late 70s, early 80s. Owen 14 and John McKay's first year, which back then no one gave a shit about expansion teams. Like, these days, it's like, oh, the NHL has a new team. Give them all the best players, whatever. But, like, it was like 0.14, and it didn't get a whole lot better for almost 20 years. And then it just got, there was a Super Bowl. That happened. And then it just got mid.

So, like, this man with a straight face had to say, like, well let's see what jeff garcia could do out there yeah like like not good jeff garcia we're talking uh jeff garcia there was a dark and a light side one was i play in a bay it's a great franchise everything's fantastic and the other one was there's a different bay and it's tampa and it sucks and i'm playing with the wreckage of the gruden administration like yeah there's a shiano run and it was like we remember like all the memes as if it was just like this gigantic catastrophe like no it's pretty standard buck stuff like that was just a couple years of tampa bay buccaneers football right boy this man now look at them now look at them they have tied

for the nfc south lead for five straight years this time at eight and nine they've also won it at eight and nine before uh this time they were not the eight and nine team that got to go however because they are no longer the sole kings of Garbage Town. They are now sharing the manner of Garbage Town. We're rotating ownership of Garbage Town. Do you know how close we were? The triumvirate of Garbage Town. Do you know you only have to flip three results this NFL season

and only one of them has to be a division game to get every team in the South finishing eight and nine? Here's all you have to do. The Saints have to beat the Falcons at the end of the season or the first game they play. flip one of those that's it then you need the falcons to not lose to the jets okay and i believe you need the saints to not lose to the dolphins and that's it and that's still too much to ask that's it that's it you'd have can't can't do it can't do it can't do it brother like someone

actually added up the wins and like based on sheer number number of total wins it's like that's pretty good to doesn't matter like because the worst team isn't you know a three and thirty some some two and fifteen team yes yeah and like they're you know like based on sheer raw wins it's a pretty good division they're just distributed in the most comedic nmc southway they are also like the nfc south wins some of the ugliest games you'll ever like my god the slop that they will serve up for you. Oh, God, here's Steve DeBird. He's bleeding from his rectum.

And it gets to host a playoff game every year anyway. Like, I do not have any patience for people who complain about the college football playoff format. The NFC South hosts. Like, we didn't let JMU host Oregon. J&U had a winning record. Divisional team, divisional winners hosting games is our version of, like, British royalty titles where you're like,

you're the Duke of what? Why? Because this happened 700 years ago? The Duke of Cornwall, because I surf! We must let the Lord of Charlotte host a ball. The envoy from Charlotte beckons. Fucking House of Lords Tampa style. Are you kidding me? Behold, the Earl of St. Pete.

His name is literally Earl. His name's Earl. The Rams very well might be the NFL's best team, right? Like, okay, they had a couple games, could flip them one way or the other, blah, blah, blah. But, like, they got to, they have to start the playoffs by going to play the Panthers. Switch divisions. Switch divisions, do idiots. Yeah, come on over.

Well, hey, well, two NFC South teams used to be in the NFC West and the shit kicked out of them by the Niners. It was the Falcons and the Niners were patting, Falcons and the Saints were patting the Niners stats for years and years. Send one of those teams over here because you have too many good teams. That's right. Send us the Cardinals. I think those teams are both, those teams are each responsible for the salary cap because the 49ers playing without the salary cap would come in. And it was like, the 49ers, the death machine, the perfectly calculated ballet of savagery and strategy versus the fucking Falcons.

Also, the 49ers have the Falcons best player, right? Yeah. You have a good player. That's too bad. We were the fucking farm team. Dion change teams and the rest of the NFL. was like, that's it, that's enough. We're done.

Oh, man, listen, congratulations to Gene Deckerhoff for surviving that. That man would watch Derek Brooks covered 35 yards all by himself in every direction and then go and we're punning, take it over here. Sean King under center. We'll be right back, Buck's Trail 106

on the Wuccaneers Radio Network. Forever. Forever trailing 106 on the Buccaneers Radio. network. Less Deccle calling up another off tackle. You'll never escape a four-point deficit on the Buccaneers Radio Network. I like the, my God, I'm just looking back from 2018 back through 2009.

They finished last in the NFC South all but two years. You know how hard it is to finish last in the NFC South? Everyone else is trying to do that. Yeah, yeah. Those other teams are really good at that. I mean, granted, there were a couple good years for NFC South teams in there. But still. Yeah.

This is why, again, the NFC South, this program, what's the best conference? It's the ACC. We all know that. It's basic math. Everybody knows that. ACC is the greatest conference. What's the ACC of the NFL? It's the NFC South.

Oh, it's the conference USA of the NFL. The NFC South is the most coastal-ass conference in the NFL hands down. It took 10 years for someone to win it two times in a row. I also like they were talking all this shit about. a division that has a Super Bowl champion this decade. But it didn't count for various reasons. That didn't count. The NFC East is the, I would say, the ACC Atlantic,

where it's like, oh, clearly it's better and fancier. And you're like, mm, kind of the same bullshit. Kind of say bullshit, guys. The NFC East is the 2010's Big Ten East, where it's like, wow, big, loud, famous programs. They're all on sanctions at once. Yeah. Surely they're not huge fuckups.

Oh, look, Ohio State has a massively fat, record by getting to play all the other sanctioned teams that's like your one good NFC East team per year but the graduate degree Purdue that's really what every team in the NFC South is um without all the graduate degree like there's not a whole lot of thinking I don't think what's on Ryan's Boston College fancy ass what you talk about we got we're going to get some brain power up at this bitch listen I haven't really had an opportunity to vocalize this thought properly. Okay, speaking of Matt Ryan.

But I adore that the NFL added a 17th game. Sure. And the Falcon's solution for what do we do with the 17th game is go 8.9. Let's see what? If you gave us an 18th game, we'd go 9 to 9. And if you gave us a 19th game, we'd go 9 to 10. But hold on. I want to give the Falcons credit for something because for years,

the falcons would eliminate themselves to the playoffs go on these unreasonable runs in the last month where you're like stack and wins that mean nothing except bad draft order but guess who doesn't have their first round pick this next we don't have to worry about that's right about that big brain big brain so we sold you on this we sold you this declining asset you got to eat shit you're the one who has to worry about how mid we are our wins are your problem now What of which was over you? You could have stopped this at Rams? You didn't.

I have to find the stat that somebody did about, like, the Falcons in games when they are eliminated versus not eliminated. Oh, it was like they're like 700 or something. Who's the greatest football team in the world? Yeah, they just immediately turn from the, like, normal Panthers to the normal chiefs. Are the Falcons pit for some reason? Yeah. Yeah, but like, they're pit if the super weapon could find. fire against fellow mid teams, right?

Sure. Like if, if Pitt suddenly went from the team that loses to NC State to the team that crushes NC State. Yeah. Though, I mean, like, yeah, taking down, you know, taking down the Rams is pretty good. We beat the hell out of the bills like three months ago for absolutely. Yeah. No reason at all.

Yep. Get it. One of the world's only Atlanta Falcons podcast is. Here it is. There it is from... Remember, it's ACC talk. From Alan Cole on Blue Sky, the Falcons are... We'll update the stats, 53 and 78 in games with playoff eligibility.

And now 13 and 4 when eliminated over the past seven years. That was before they won the last game too. No, I counted the last two, so 13 and 4. It's amazing. Absolutely amazing. That's like the best season in Falcons is true. That is a 765 win percentage once it no longer matters. That's heat.

So I think the answer is, instead of doing the whole, like, it's zero, it's zero, it's week one every week. I think the Falcons needs to start the season being like, play, we're out of the playoffs. Hey, right, we're out. Yeah, we're out. We're out. We're out. We're out of fucked.

Hey, listen, it's week 13. Yeah. Play it, boys. Guys, I don't have to put this to you. I usually say when we go out to start the second half, it's a zero, zero game. Well, we're down 35. Sorry. or Amber on a bowl band.

What do you mean NFL teams can't get bowl bands? We'd in! I'd say they're on a bull band. Yeah, they are. They're on a bull ban for quite a while. Yeah, that's my thought. Also, that, you know, congratulations to Duke for their membership in the NFC South as champions of the ACC. Sure.

There's room. You know, speaking of football from a lower level, than the rest of its peers in the same level. The NFC South, in some ways, is kind of the FCS of the NFL. Like, it's still in the NFL, right? Yeah, it's still Division I. It's still Division I, which you kind of, like, as a former FCS alumni, I found myself saying that, like,

eight times per year. No, it's in Division I, right? So it's the kind of thing you say about the NFC South. But last night, we saw the fucking game of the year. The FCS title game, yes, it's Division I. Monday night football at night after the Division 3 title game bravely challenged Steelers Ravens to a ratings duel and won I assume Montana River Falls our River Falls boys pulled it off against our North Central boys in D3 the FCS title game Montana State Illinois State game of the year an absolute travesty complimentary

one of the most disgusting beautiful wonderful things I've ever seen in the sport of football And as a serious media concern, we did have a correspondent on site. That's me. Hi, I did it. Ryan, tell me, tell me literally everything. I envy you so much. You went to the Rose Bowl and you went to this game and I envy you for one of these. And it's not the Rose Bowl.

Beggars only. Both are really funny. I mean, I've done the Rose Bowl. I've never been at this level of an FCS banger. So I saw people, one thing that remains eternally true about Vanderbilt Stadium. And I, at this point, I do mean it as a compliment. You can always get self-service.

You can, like, they were not showing a lot of replays of in the stadium, so I could just fire up YouTube TV on my phone and be like, there's, oh, okay. That's, like, you're the wise one. Yes, right. Like, did we get it? Yes, yes, right. But you can see, like, what people are talking about

on social media and you know, you can sort of get a feel. It was, it was fascinating seeing people say, like, what Jason just said, like, what a disgusting, beautiful mess of the game because it never felt that way weirdly like when you're in it I think you are so awash in the emotion and the back and forth and like how much it hurts the people who really care about it and my God I don't think you could have found two fan bases that like more really cared about it than this I think they had four losses coming into this game if that's right yeah this Illinois State team that like

by no account should have been like an absolute miracle that they made it this far and a hell of a run and a Montana state team that has bumped up against the North Dakota state monster multiple times over the last 10 years hasn't won an FCS title since 1984 and so like while I understand analytically what everyone was saying about like the messiness of this game it just felt awesome. It just felt like awesome and terrifying at the same time. But I never, I don't know. I just never got the sense of like, oh shit, this is drunk as hell. Maybe everyone in the stands was just drunk as hell instead. Maybe you were drunk as hell. Maybe I was drunk as hell. Wafting somehow. Yeah. I was going to say, this is a lot like walking in on like two of your roommates

having sex or something, right? Because to everyone involved, they're like, this is incredible. This is cool. This is majestic and if every and anyone who walked in on it was like whoa that's a lot good god and again this means a lot to both of the participants one of them one of them probably shouldn't be there had no business being there the other one hadn't uh had been here a while hadn't yeah it all the way since 1984 we're observing like oh my god this is all wrong the techniques and procedures and yeah and the ball just bounced 20 yards away um the crowd was 60 to 70% Montana state fans. I was sitting on the Montana state side,

although they had a bunch of the other side as well. They were loud as hell, except in the fourth quarter when they were just terrified. I talked about this with Godfrey on a Phantom Island we'll have coming out later this week. But like, there are two ways to blow a lead quickly and slowly. And for my money, slowly is worse. Way worse.

I don't think I would have thought that until I saw this game, but slowly is worse. Like quick, you can at least point to, you can rationalize a lot easier. Slowly is just like, oh no, I had to watch. It's basically like, would you like to watch your car slowly sink into the mud or just completely fall off a cliff? And I would rather watch it just fall off a cliff

because there was nothing I could have done. When you watch it slowly sink into a tarpet, you just have to, like you gotta eat, it eats at you the whole time. Yeah. And like if you're Montana State fan last night, you know this Illinois State team has some aura to it. This is a team that came back in Fargo against North Dakota State. The thing absolutely nobody does and then won three other road games. First FCS team never do it in playoffs. Like you know this team does not, cannot possibly quit, like will not ever quit. Like, you know, regular season, yeah, they had a bunch of losses. Their schedule's hard as shit. So like, yeah, when you know you have to absolutely snuff them out for it to end. And that did not occur until over time. Yeah, also, by the way, like, snuck back in against North Dakota State in exactly this fashion. Like this team, this team just hung and hung around and hung around and gradually started stealing stuff off the plate.

And you're like, oh, no. Yeah. Oh, no. And remember, that was the game where Illinois State threw like 7,000, 7,000 interceptions. Yeah. And came back to beat North Dakota. It was really the key to that win, by the way. More picks.

almost literally can't be killed and again last night they had two kicks blocked their sixth and seventh of the year like this team just sprays the ball everywhere fuck you yeah we're here and they still and they still had montana state down to fourth and ten throwing off your back foot to win the national tip like yeah it was and what did they do they sent like seven seven rushers because fuck you yeah yeah this occurred after montana states at least nine false starts i lost count which ryan maybe you could comment on like whether the noise there in national no no it was not like that's the thing because so Vanderbilt itself doesn't is not a particularly noisy place number one it's not a huge stadium number two it's not really built to trap noise in

anyway and number three it was mostly Montana I will say the Illinois state fans that were there were loud and like got after it and all respect to them but like you couldn't say like oh there's no way they're getting it was just like dumb shit it was it's like running backs getting false starts and shit too They got a false start on a punt at one point. Yeah. Great football. If you can look at the, go to ESPN.com, look at the, the, the, the win-and-probability

graph of this game. And it is, let me tell you, brother, it's something, if you've seen it. It's a lot of, it's a big W at the end. My favorite stat that I didn't discover until afterward and then retroactively made sense is Montana State had 20 minutes time. a position and what was weird about that was so that imbalance showed up in the first half but it was not in no way to feel like ah they're falling into Illinois state's trap what was happening was Illinois State when they had the ball they could move it but they couldn't really

score and they were they have kind of a slow offense and then Montana State would get the ball and they'd be like oh okay four explosives here touchdown what like it didn't feel like that was the game Montana State wanted to avoid, it was more like, oh, no, we accidentally painted ourselves into this weird possession corner by the end of the game. I mean, like Montana State's favorite offense is punt return, guy named Taco punt return. Yeah, yeah. Which for anyone who is just now tuning in, yes, Taco Dollar named Montana State's star hero, a guy who caught touchdown, their flashiest ball carrier.

Yes, he named himself after Taco Bell, according to at least one version of his own story, and his twin brother, who is a name. FCS All-American Defender on the same team. His nickname, at least for a time long ago, was burrito. But you have to overcome the shadow of your brother. You have to eventually pick a different cuisine. Yeah. Yeah, now he's...

Pokey bowl, Dowler. Chicken Parmesan. Yeah, chicken parm, Dowler. Dude, you know how big chicken parm Dowler would be on the New York Jets? Lettus Rapp Dowler, Montana State. Yeah. I would also like to really show you. Shout out Montana State fans for absolutely playing the part.

I stood next to a guy whose phone lock screen was his cows. It was just a picture of his cows. I'm like, fuck, yes. There is nothing made up here. Did you engage him in conversation about the cows? That seemed personal. So I decided to do that too. You wouldn't ask someone like, so it's so your wife looks really.

Is that your wife? Is that your wife? She got a lot of milk? Sir, tell me about your. I don't think I know you well enough, friend. No offense. Yeah. No offense, amigo. I'm going to need to build some fences with you for a few days before we, before we get to our, advance our relationship to that level. Now, I want to know, was there any confusion in the stands live? And I imagine there wasn't because there's just so much shit going on, right? Was there any confusion about

the face mass penalty that entered the phantom zone? Yes. Entered the zone of death where all Crime was legal? Yes. I would say there was some confusion. It was not, the most confusing play was the Illinois State touchdown where the ball carrier fumbled just outside of the end zone and then an Illinois state player recovered it, mostly because they didn't show a replay of it in the stadium. And so nobody knew what the hell.

That was where I had to go to YouTube TV to figure out what was going on. There was some confusion, but I think in the moment it was. was so overwhelmed by, like, delight that they had blocked the extra point. There was not a lot of, well, there was not this sense of like, oh, we should get the ball at the 10 or something like that. And I think there was also just, I don't know,

you don't often see a kicker, like attach himself to another man's head like a monkey. I'm seeing his kicks blocked. Yeah. For anyone who didn't see it, this was the first drive in overtime, Illinois State scores, touchdown extra point is blocked montana state's turning it back massive face mask and the refs says well it's over time so during a run back to state ball too bad yeah too bad and and

everyone sort of immediate was it realizes like so you're just allowed to do whatever the fuck you want during a run back in overtime that's right pull out a gun if you want but but i will say this i think you better make sure you do it before the whistle if you accidentally decide that all law all laws are is suspended but it's after the whistle then i think that would have to Montana State's next possession. So you gotta be very careful to know, is all crime legal or not right now? I don't know.

So when you got him set up on the ladder and you're about to drop them off. And you hear the whistle. Oh, oh, purge is over. Purge is over. Put down the chainsaw. Just a guy with a knife, like what? I didn't hear a bell.

I do kind of wish the kicker had tackled him in such a way that he had been ejected from the game and the penalty. That would have been really valuable. I mean, if they can't keep his kicks from being blocked, I guess they should just stop kicking. Might as well, yeah. But, yeah, the Montana State, Big Set Conference, Best Conference,

Illinois State, shout out to them as well. One of the teams of the year, incredible run, did, like, multiple things nobody thought really possible in this run and nearly pulled it off a 10-point underdog in this game, team of the year, among the teams of the year. Team of the year, game of the year. Like, I haven't seen a better game this year. It's probably, I was trying to think about it is probably one of the best three games I've ever attended in person.

And part of what makes it, this is what's kind of wild because I think most of the time, I think we know this going into most weeks when we talk about the schedule or whatever. But, like, there is something about close game that people didn't think was going to be close. Because 10 points kind of undersells. Like, I think if Montana State had won this game by 20, people would have been like, that makes sense. That's not necessarily, like, a failure on Illinois State's part. Yeah. It's, it's, I don't, there is something weirdly delightful about, oh, I saw these two games,

two teams play this incredibly close game that they weren't supposed to. That is different from one versus two where you're like, this is going to go down to the wire. Like the, especially the fact that Illinois State had to claw back into it. Because at half time, I think everybody was like, Montana State got that last touchdown. They did it so easily. They're marching up and down the field. And for Illinois State to claw back into it and do it in like, as you were saying, Spencer, the exact way that they know how. Just cruising, just sneaking up on you.

It was great. It was great. You know, that's a team that showed up. Yeah. Right. Illinois State showed up, unlike Alabama. I'm going to say that sentence again because it's very fun. Illinois State who showed up, unlike Alabama, who did not. Ryan, as the current standard bearer for.

the sports pulse follow him wherever he goes next because that's where lightning's striking bubba because very funny things will happen on the football field i would say like 10 really funny things happened in the fcs title game yeah and more than 10 funny things happened in the rose bowl this is again we all get to carry the banner of heaven for a while okay you're you have it right now um i didn't know there were that many indiana fans let's Let's just start there. They were all there. There was a point where...

Yeah. So the hardest part, FCS, very easy to tell who's with who. We have a blue and gold team. We have a red and white team, you know, fans in the stands. It's very clear. Bama, Indiana, almost impossible. You kind of think you know based on like where the noise is coming from, you kind of get a sense of it. But when you get your ass kick 383, you leave, by my memory, with 10 minutes to go in the fourth quarter.

And the sun at the Rose Bowl is an important thing. The sunset, the beauty shot, whatever. We didn't get a sunset. Part of that was the weather. Part of that was that they started the game, I believe, an hour earlier than they normally do. But here's what the sun did do. It shone directly onto the patch of stadium

where all the Alabama fans had left, as if God himself was like, behold, how you have abandoned your team in their darkest hour. It's like the finger of heaven. pointing directly at why is this spot empty? What drove these people away from this place? It was I, Alabama, Alabama's lost football games before. Alabama's lost the Rose Bowl before.

I cannot imagine that there is a worse feeling they have than having to be booed and mocked out of the stadium by conservatively 60,000 rabbit Indiana fans. traditionally until recently the worst program in college football the ones with nothing the ones with no rings no banners no shit and just be shit talked out the whole way and have nothing not even a scrap of something to say in response no because they just got their ass be whatever framework you want to talk about it which team was better coached indiana which team uh played sounder defense indiana which team adjusted to the opponent better Indiana which team ran the goddamn ball which team ran the goddamn ball yeah which team made smarter choices and bolder

choices in Indiana which team was not too scared of the moment it like you can go through the list it is impossible to find one checkmark where you can say like well I guess you got to give it no none of them zero exists like I think I said this to Holly afterwards this is this is a loss that creates existential doubt for a program and yeah and the fact that indiana did that in the span of what we know about this sport is fucking wild it was so much fun too that had to be so much fun like losing to vanderbilt last year like okay that's like oh god we're not alabama anymore yes this is way worse because yes there's like last year you could tell yourself like well at least Vanderbilt's as you see as if that means anything sure but now you

now you now you have to admit like oh no the Vanderbilt of this conference that we always talk shit about is now us Vanderbilt you can look back and say like there were points of that there were points where we had that game we can you can credibly say in the Vanderbilt Bama game like Bama could have done it you know Vanderbilt hits that big fourth down you know whatever what do you got here you didn't score a touchdown I mean barely scored at all you go back to like 2015 Alabama Michigan State your Michigan State now yeah yeah yeah and I was watching it and the whole time have you ever seen a video like I you know you buy like a whole turkey or you buy like a whole chicken and you go I got to learn how to debone this yeah and you watch it

and go this is a much more violent process than I imagine I ain't built like this yeah that's what it was like hello I'm Kurtzignetti welcome to field dressing a football team on every first thing punch it in the face on every single single play, you go, man, there was a brutality there. Like there was somebody just getting absolutely shut down. And then on the next play, you were like, wow, Indiana executed that really, really well. And there were like 40 or 50 of those plays in a row. And I'm like, oh, you're just being torn to pieces slowly, methodically. And then it got worse. Like there was the, hey, we're going to do everything really well, one snap at a time. And then suddenly, you give up long touchdowns. You give up long plays. you you just collapse and it's it's amazing watching a team with that kind of methodical precision at every point kind of reminds you of a team that used to win that way yeah and doesn't anymore i mean it would be boring it would be boring if it weren't indiana to be honest if this were Alabama playing like this i'd be like ah not again fuck the the the drive that the drive that sort

of like sealed that in my opinion was indiana's first and only drive of the third quarter where they started with the ball around their own 20 they held they held they held bama bama started with ball uh down 17 zero and it felt sort of like you felt both ways about it you were like the indiana path is clear but also the path to alabama coming back is clear we you know we've just seen oklahoma fuck this up so i understand like how this can go the other way. And then they went 79 yards on 10 plays. And I'm scrolling here. And the longest, the longest was the touchdown pass that capped it, which they threw, they threw a 24 yard pass on third and one after killing them with eight yard run, five yard run, eight yard run,

four yard run. Like this is a, let's see, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight runs and two passes in in on this drive on this touchdown drive and I'm like that's that's vintage Alabama in a lot of ways of just like we're going to snatch the life out of you by controlling the line and just beating the shit out of you all the way down the field and after that it was just sort of all icing and they were going for it on that fourth and one if they didn't get that pass to 100% yeah a hundred percent they were like the brutality was going to continue The numbers, like, the numbers on this game are, and they are, they are admittedly, like, padded by Alabama sort of, you know, figuring out some things late, whatever.

But you're like, Indiana outrushed you 215 to 23. Yeah. They decimated you, like literally. They got 10 times what you got. And that's with three sacks. So it's not like this is, oh, okay, this is wildly. No. They just didn't let you run the ball in the slightest.

Ryan, in the stands, how much of signity face were you aware of during the game? We were below the big video screen, so you'd have to turn around to see it. Only bits and pieces of it. We definitely didn't see. I didn't see until later the signetti face after the fourth, after Bama's like back and forth on four than one. And so we didn't get that classic. But we did enjoy how often when they would cut to him at certain points, it was like, oh, this, he's not going to crack.

Yeah. I was honestly a little surprised that he cracked at the post game press conference, that he did like crack a smile at that point. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it was like, online, it was very much like, you could tell the producers were like, oh, this is entertaining. We're just going to keep coming back to how pissed off this coach is. And from what I can tell.

from the broadcast, which I haven't seen, the way that the booth was discussing it was like equally shameful for Alabama. Yeah. Oh, no, they were like, they were like, oh, they're not doing anything. Like there was a lot of like, yeah, this is ineffective. Like, oh, yeah.

At one point, Herb Street, like, he went into like Herb Street scolding take mode, but everyone pretty much agreed with him because he was like, Alabama's not even trying. And he talked for like three minutes about how Alabama had just sort of given up. And it was not late in the game. Like, he just decided they were cooked very early because they were. He was right.

Yeah. I want to give a special shout out to the eight-year-old kid who was sitting in front of us, whose name was Clyde and who was an Indiana fan there with his dad. And this was his first college football game. Oh, man. Never go to another. Don't go to another. And we made sure to tell him.

of Clyde, all Indiana games go this way and so do all Alabama games. This is how it always goes. It's going to be like this forever, buddy, welcome to the new world. This was another example of how, and granted, you know, I was there with Indiana people rooting for Indiana, and I'm sure that affects it. But I don't know, was this boring to watch on television? I'm curious. No. Okay, okay, good.

Because based on the numbers, I would understand if people said like, oh, boy. whatever, but mostly I was like, oh, this was, this was a lot of fun. This was really good to watch. I don't even, I don't even say that like if you had taken the name Alabama off of the jerseys, yeah, it would have still been 85% as fun. 15% of that was just, man, I haven't seen this in a real long time, but 85% of it was, I have never seen so clinical in execution of the patient, right? like doctor's orders you gotta die how it's gonna take 60 minutes it's gonna suck like it was killroom shit

but in a really enthralling way yeah i mean it had like the highest ratings of any game in two years so like america really wanted to see alabama get the fuck beaten out of it by the upstart team yeah yeah it was man i uh who knows what will happen from here on out but like Like, I feel like even if Indiana doesn't play for or win for the national championship, getting to the Rose Bowl, beating Alabama, and doing it in this fashion, like, already sort of cement this is, like, what a fucking awesome team this is. What a fucking cool season. Doing it with the, like, I don't know, part of me was sort of like, is, are we going to see that old trope, which doesn't really exist anymore? but you kind of wonder if it will sneak back in of like will you have a heisman let down i

kind after that first drive certainly i think they sacked mendoza twice or at least pressure yeah yeah yeah they didn't have the projections right i was kind of like uh-oh is this where it is this where mendoza falls back to earth just fucking diced him up dude you have 14 of 16 it wasn't hard like i was mostly saying it as a joke because it's fun to be an asshole when your team is winning by a lot. But they made, football was easy for Indiana against Alabama. Football was easier for Indiana against Alabama than it was against Kennesaw State or Old Dominion. We scored more. That's right. Wisconsin scored more. I think that's even more daming. Yeah. That's true. Also, man, Fernando Mendoza, don't, don't harm that man on the first down.

Don't harm that man on the first drive. I've seen this shit. Ohio State murdered him. he's too positive to break and many people have pointed out like Mendoza like the most chipper boy scout you have ever encountered in real life like a non-fictional character and his coach is the most pissed off leader of a great successful bunch since Sabin

and like they both ultimately have the same reaction to like we've been punched which is just like we're going to punch harder Mendoza just says it with a great big smile. The comparison I have landed on is that Kurt Signetti is Jack Donagy, and Mendoza is Kenneth. Kenneth the page. To me, he's butters.

Hey, guys. What are we playing? Rochambeau. Bam! And he's like, oh, that's Dean! They're just like, they're an astonishingly well-coached team. Like, I think. I think they maybe missed two tackles in the whole game.

I think there was, of the two in completions, one was a, it's a drop, but like I think the tight end who caught it just got fucking lit up over the middle, so you kind of get it. They just like, they really don't make stupid mistakes. It feels silly to say like, oh yeah, that's a really good way to win a football game, but they didn't turn the ball over. They finished with one penalty. yeah they're I get why people sort of can't get their brains around Indiana is this good

but god damn they are this good I think there is something to saying like you know it's a question everybody has how in the hell is this team so good there is something to saying they're good at football like it's not they have some brilliant scheme it's not they have some way they don't they don't have like the top white out going in the draft or something like yeah it's it's it's it's no big secret but it is it's not reductive to say they're just really good at football because lots of teams with more of this or more of that just aren't this good at football. And, you know, I think you could like talk your way to explanations of why they're good good coaches. They pick players who are very experienced who have won a lot of games, have played a lot of football. Like, you know,

everyone on, like everyone who plays has played a lot. And that's a factor. And like I think, you know, like they don't practice very often and to me i see a correlation there like you can keep your players fresh and in really good moods if you don't have to worry we need to drill the shit into into their heads because they've already played hundreds of snaps worth of college football you know yeah and and they spend that the spending the time the time they would spend hitting in practice or whatever they spend figuring out what you do and how to beat it yeah also superb self-scouting deeply experienced like this is yeah i think i i saw that something like like 16% of them are in their like junior or senior year like this is a very deep team they are also very very very experienced and some of that is some of that's clever roster management we're going to get like good money ball pieces but i hate this team for one reason and this is the only way i hate them and it's this that they force me to resort to cliches and say that yeah everyone just does their job i mean it's like it kind of i think this team expose

exposes those cliches being overused, because when you can use it and it is the answer, it exposes how many times it's not actually the answer. You know what I mean? Well, like, compare them with Miami, because we'll talk about Miami a little bit later. And the sub-answer to that is it's not, you're right, everyone does their job, but they are crafted and coached in such a way that the job is equally distributed. Like, I think their linebackers are probably right now the strength of the defense. The defensive line is a little beat up. but like they don't in a weird way because they don't have like oh my god five star that everybody

talked about for four years on either side of the ball they don't you can't you can't plan for like we'll shut down this one guy we'll double team this defensive tackle we'll make sure that like this wide receiver is bracketed like they're not built for you to shut them down that way so you have to sort of like counter them with well now we have to do our job across the board yeah yeah and like that's i think a really interesting advantage that they have when it's i think there's two sides of that not only is that a shut this guy down thing there's also not a big weakness right yes like on a team of sunbelt transfers and three stars which by the way that part's changing like guess who's winning the portal so far this year rapidly um like like like shit man i don't know

if they'll ever have another quarterback this good they might but beyond that this team is is uh on its current trajectory not going away possibly getting more talented overall so like there there's you know there's a future in just a few years where people are sick of indiana there there is there is a there's a real tactical advantage i think to being so balanced that whether it's third and eight or third and two most people couldn't tell you what's going to happen next like I think I think it's one it's it's nice to have you know like wide receiver one and sort of say like third and eight we're going to him like we're going to fight we're going to go get him the ball it's you know when when Georgia had Brock Bowers and you're like who are they

going to throw the ball to when they get it's going to go to Brock Bowers and that can work but when you don't have that but everyone's still very good like it felt again it's a cliche Bama felt like they were just had their head spent they felt like they were in the the whole time they didn't know what they could possibly do and they found no way to counter punch at all yeah like at least ohio state like went to two tights and was like okay right against miami right like okay hey we got we have a way to adjust right Alabama took a look at Indiana who frankly not playing real complex coverages like go look at it they switch some things up they disguise really well that's about it like they don't do anything they can't do that honestly makes kind of interesting that the two teams that

played them best outside of iowa and penn state right like not teams that are doing a whole lot of razzle dazzle yeah again like iowa rolled up and was like we got three plays we've done one thing since 1999 it's awesome it's awesome and it will hurt your tummy yeah Kurt signetti's like i i have three things i do really well oh no like maybe that's the answer that's why like i think if i had to pick i'm skipping ahead a little bit sorry but if i had to pick a team that i wanted to see them play i'd really want to see them i would love to see them play miami right like i think that would be fascinating to me because i don't think miami does a whole like it's a as i described in the channel 6 news like which you should definitely subscribe are we doing podcast this is a

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just be in the background. We've talked about versions of this. Yeah. Good game, by the way, this weekend. That was a good game. You did well. Uh, yeah, yeah, I, I, I just brought nothing but tanks, and it was awesome. Deranged, deranged behavior. All right, close out. Hey, there are two football games this week, two football games this week of note, okay? One, Ole Miss versus Miami in the Fiesta Bowl, semi-final one, that will be on Thursday night. And that features the best coach in America.

Pete Golding. Pete Golding. That's right. The Wizard of the Whiteboard. The heir to the throne. Pete Holding in his rapidly dwindling staff. He doesn't need them. He's going to get to Miami and it's going to be like,

it's just me now. I'm the only coach. It's like a mind shedding unnecessary cells, retaining only the glue. I'm the Apex Predator! That's it! I hate all the other coaches! It's like Lex Luther, who hasn't shaved in a long time and has a Sharpie tucked into his hat. Like, just just a mind purifying itself. It's going to be, he's going to be like Dr. Doom, except like the Oxford, Mississippi version.

It's going to be Pete Golding and, you know, in his final form, radiating energy surrounded by a bunch of delivery bots that he's programmed to do the job. We're going to cut to the booth. it's just going to be a B-B-8 figuring up there spinning around doing nothing. I was thinking one of those food delivery bots with the little eyes, right? It's just over there like defensive coordinator, AB3. There he goes. It'll be Lane Kiffin's fake dog is now Pete Golding's actual dog. That's right.

Yeah. He's happier than he ever was with you. That's right. He's coaching DBs. He's awesome. Made an honest dog at him. I mean, really, a dog would be pretty good at coaching DBs, right? Get it!

Get it! Go get it! I want a dog coach and wide receivers. Yeah. Yeah. Because like DBs, it's like, you got to think about like, oh, don't run into them and all that stuff. Yeah. But yeah, pretty close. Yeah.

That's true. I love this game. I think this is an awesome matchup of styles. I think this is Miami, the longer I looked at Miami, the simpler they got. I now understand that the idea behind Miami is just to put very talented players as close to the ball as possible. That's it. Everything with Mario Cristobol is pretty direct. It's like, where is my most dangerous player?

And they're like three inches from your face. I think with Miami, the thing that jumps out to me is sometimes things just are what they are. And there's going to be some turbulence and some confusion, but that doesn't change what they are. September and October, this looked like the best team in the country because of those dudes up front mainly on defense. Like Ruben Bain, if he'd won the Heisman, I would have said, fuck, yeah, that's awesome. and like right up until the loss of Louisville it was like yeah I'm pretty sure this is the best team and then a couple bumpy things happen a lot of interceptions happened and not as many as it feels like they're just kind of all at once and like yeah now they're two games away from being the best team they're they're favored by three in this game

old miss is uh you know can do anything against anyone usually win um almost always win this season And, yeah, Trinidad Chambliss versus Rubin Bain and company, right? That's it. Like, that's the entire, like, people will go, well, what about the old Miss defense? Miami's going to score 24 points. They're going to score 24 points. Like, somewhere between 24 and 27 points. They have decided that the way to win games is to just smack you with Mark Fletcher,

uh, have Carson Beck play within himself. By the way, what does that mean? Easy throws. Don't throw interception. Yack King. Yack King. Hand the ball up. And you know who really likes that?

But Carson Beck, no one yells at you when you do that and everyone else is winning. And then you take Malachi Tony and every then and then you just go, Ah, Malachi Tony! Here's the ball. Yeah, yeah. He's very much like the like, oh, right, part of Miami's offense. Yeah, like if you look a team that's like, we talked about Indiana doing everything well actively. They were going to reach out, grab opportunity, and execute on every play for exactly 98 to 99% effectiveness.

Miami is not that. Miami's not that. But Miami is also not. we're not going to overthink this, okay? They're not really going to overthink any of this shit at all, right? What is defense? Defense is get ball. Get ball.

How get ball? Big monster. How stop pass? Don't let pass. Yeah. Akeem. Oh, you covered Rubin Bain. That's cool.

We have Akeem Mesdor. We have seven Rubin Baines. That's cool. You handled them on the left side. We'll move them to the right side. Watch their defensive line and how they move guys around. If it's not going well on the left side, they're like, huh, well, don't you try it over here. And they just start, like, the first, go watch the first two series for Ohio State on offense.

And the difference between film and game speed is very obvious because Ohio State's offensive line is like, Ah, it's in my suits. It's in my suit. You could just see it like, what the fuck is this? Which Purdue is this? Purdue Prime. Oh, no, this isn't Purdue. Like, the thing I love about watching both of these teams.

I like watching people freak out at things that you cannot coach your scheme against. I love watching Miami's defense because the minute that defensive line gets off the ball, you go, oh, no, that's a very bad time. You go, well, because I know what you want to do. I know that you're like, I'm built different. If I were in the trunk of that car, I'd live, right, cumbling down the mountain, right? I wouldn't die on that. I would learn how to wire the car to open and eject me safe.

I would simply do a front flip. That's right. Yeah. I would hold my breath while we landed, and that would save me. If I were Rick James, I would never become addicted to cocaine. It's just that easy. I would party, but responsibly. Yes, but not all the time.

I know that's what the song says, but I would not do that. No, like, I love that there's nothing you could deal with. You'd go, well, let's like protection to that side. Who cares? Who cares? Have you seen Ruben Bates at the edge? Yeah. I love Ole Miss because Trinidad Chambliss, every single moron like ex-Joc who didn't win State in every YouTube comment section is like, it's easy.

Trinidad Chamblis, you're just going to contain. Just, you know, defense vins, continue, spy him. You know, we got that. Spy. Magic word. I learned from Madden, it fixes all your problems. Yeah, QB spy. I'm just going to call cover two.

That's all I'm going to do. QB spy, it fixes your problems because then you have 10 on 10 on 10. And that's perfect. You got them right where you want. That's perfect. It's just a numbers game. football's just a numbers game guy who throws for 8,000 yards a game that's what you want 10 on 10 yeah uh that's I love that I love that you can't do that with Trinidad Chamblis because uh wow Georgia didn't think about that they gave up way over 300 yards that man including the craziest fucking fourth quarter I've seen a quarterback play this year like he had on their last touchdown drive and it was not decided with a touchdown drive decided with a really tidy field goal drive with very very little time on the clock which he had on their last touchdown drive and it was not decided with a really tidy field goal drive with very little time on the clock which again, was also brilliant, but not as brilliant as at one point he starts on the 28,

okay, the old miss 28, takes the ball on the 28, is immediately pressured and runs back to the two. Like at one point, his foot is standing on the two yard line and it ends with a first down pass to Kwan Lacey. That is, that's what he's capable of. Admittedly, does that make me feel great about being pursued by Mesidor and Bain in the same situation? No, they're going to be bring Georgia for all of its strengths was not particularly good at pressuring the quarterback Miami is a top five team in terms of pressures number one in sacks I believe on the season at this point it's going to be different I just like that they have complimentary weaknesses it's going to be it's going to be awesome it's great shit as is the

peach semifinal Oregon Indiana I'll be at this one we'll see if I can carry on Ryan's tradition of only attending games that rock for I believe I'm sending my power to you right now If the first half sucks, we're subbing in Ryan. Yeah, we're just going to fly him down. Right outside on standby. Yeah. You're just going to have to like tap in, right? Like, okay, hey, there you go.

I'm trying to picture the version of the game that would suck between these two teams, right? Like, like, if they're not scoring, that means these defense are just playing their asses off. I think it would be honestly, I think it would be a version of the Texas Tech Oregon game where it's like, oh, one unit just really decided to beat shit. Yeah. doesn't belong there yeah yeah which are neither of these quarterbacks I don't know but I think if you if you hit one one offense that's just like whoops we decided it was time for four turnovers today that would be the yeah everyone got the poops yeah like like yeah the flu game not in the good sense I don't know this sounds

entertaining to me I don't know what you all are talking about this sounds like I'm the man for the job here this is this is the version of Jason that's at the window going yes but Yeah, I will either see Oregon advance to be favored to win its first ever national title or Indiana advance to be favored to win its first national side. The latter of those is infinitely more shocking, but within the context of this season makes perfect sense. This to me is the perverts game, like by far. This is the perverts game. Not the one with not the one with the team.

That where Lane Kiffin is a central look here. Not the one that has half a coaching staff and the coach who just stops coaching when there's three minutes left. But this one? No, no, no. See, that's going to be the posters game. Posters game. Oh, I see what you're saying. Posters game is Miami-Loss.

This is the lot to count game. This is the murder game. This is the football perverts game. Yeah, this is the football perverts game because the two coaches at hand, you talk about, yeah, I'm really focused and I'm only worrying about these three things. You're lying. all kinds of garbage floating around in your head i guarantee you the two most focused people on earth two most focused people on earth anywhere this year this month this day this week are kurt signetti and uh dan lannick they have thought they they're not lying they have thought about

nothing but this game all week these are our two most run it up coaches so like something's got to give are they going to run it up on each other is the final score going to be 77 to 76 because they're running it up um just executing we can't make our offense not score mm-hmm so part the cliche that's applying to this game obviously is it's hard to be a good team twice sure part of what i'm having trouble with that is that indiana won this first game on the road and did not play like if you go back you're not like that's indiana's best game they turn the ball over they like they didn't look completely sound throughout there are reasons to believe that Oregon is but I think the primary reason to believe Oregon will be better in

this game is Dante Moore has gotten better since then yeah but I don't I don't know like I'm having trouble finding that to be a particularly useful line of analysis in part because maybe it's just because I've been watching a lot of NFL games lately and I'm like and the whole teams do this all the time are you playing a team twice is not like oh oh now now the magic is shifted against says now we enter with huge disadvantage it's like people beat the Falcons twice all the time that's right it's not a big deal the Saints don't to be clear the Saints twice this year yeah see that happens might I add repeatedly that's called the set Jason I mean we only

we only remember it when the team that lost the first one went the second yes we don't remember it the sweep like Texas Tech beat BYU twice right right they did the um yeah we only remember it when Georgia shuts the shutdown Alabama hey Alabama it's you again Yeah, Indiana wins this game six or seven times out of ten, which means Oregon wins quite a few. Almost half, right? And so in this one, I feel like the thing that we always assume will happen in the rematch

is the team that lost the first one will be more focused and pissed off and all that stuff, right? Like they'll be stewing on it the whole time and the team that won is going to be complacent. Can you imagine the scenario that it would take for a Kurtzignetti team to show up complacent? Like, yes, Dan Lannan. will be frothing.

Okay. Kurt Signetti will be pissed off to see someone frothing. Yeah. Like, they're both going to play their asses off. Might get sloppy, sure. Might get sloppy like it was last time. But there's not a psychological edge to be had against Indiana. If you've ever gone for a PR weightlifting and you go, man, I'm going to live 450.

Here comes 450. And you're like, damn, that's heavy. Then you go, but I'm pissed off now. You walk right up to it. And you go, damn, 450 is still really heavy. If it's the same task, it could be equally hard both times, no matter how big tough you are. It might just search yourself for it. Yeah.

I also appreciate that in this, in this semi-final, narratively in these semifinals, big team is going to make the national championship game no matter what. And either way, it will be a big 10 team that I think collectively we get to say, oh, that's interesting. That's a good story that, you know, this is something new and exciting. ACC has already acquitted itself through the rest of bowl season with Miami-making. you know, making a good run, beating Texas A&M, beating Ohio State, even if Miami doesn't do it. But the SEC.

The SEC is down to this. And they need Ole Miss. I think that I think is, depending on Ole Miss. I think that I think is misunderstood is that I think some people think that if you are a non-Alabama SEC fan that Indiana beating Alabama hurt you or injured you. And I don't, I got to tell you, I don't know a single Auburn, L.A. Tennessee Kentucky like I don't know any other fan of an SEC team who was like oh this is bad for the conference this reflects poorly on our preparedness for the

post I think they're all just pointing and laughing I think they're all just pointing laughing but I am delighted that we are now oh oh all hope so all buddy is with Pete Goldie Pete Golding has the savings he's just got to get this $8,000 to the bank by the end of oh Uncle Billy what did you do oh no oh Billy what did you do savings alone is going the fuck up. Where's the money you drunk asshole? Like all that

they chant for the SEC stuff is like no they're doing like they did that 15 years ago to troll Ohio State. It's not actually a fan right. Yeah. And like all that they all root for each other. No, they all hate each other. They all fucking hate each other. Sometimes there are times, yeah. But it's all fun in games

until you the big 10 wins three straight titles and your only good was old miss fucking old miss who didn't even have a coach peat buddy we need you to bring it in we need you to need you to need you to lock in and be i need beat coldy to be more focused than either kurt signetti mario chrystal ball or dan lannie the SEC is a passenger having a medical emergency on a plane the pilot has asked for a doctor and pke colding stood up and said i've watched a lot of pornos that are hospital themed

I saw that one where Johnny Sins played a doctor. We put him on the cup. That's how much we love. Yeah, that's right. I'm ready to administer help. You might not be able to watch it. I said it's real hot nurse one time. I got you.

This is the best because also I love going through. Somebody's like, well, you know, the SEC, like all of those, all those. games they weren't really bad losses friends gather around because we're going to talk about those losses because frankly they're hilarious one i love that people are counting the alabama oklahoma one it's like well that's the loss we made the yes yeah it's true that is an nccc loss um that it then there is the miami texas an m loss which that's bad you should score more than three points to say now that's fucking ass that's that's terrible there's no defense whatsoever at home there was a lot of defense fucking in the back cave get your

ass kicked yeah he said Albert get my ow oh at noon at noon the most Christian hour to play a football game everyone saw yeah everyone saw you got Carson Beck through for like a parking lot he threw for like a hundred yards and that's all he needed and that's all he needed i am you lost a one play you lost it yeah you lost to mark fletcher which honestly no shame in that man he looks like he that that hurts so that hurts so after that uh missou you lost to virginia in the gator bowl seven points virginia's first bull win and i think i have the stat in front of me 17 000 years uh-huh it's good it's the first win since the ice age for Virginia again you scored seven points you should try to accumulate more than that you should

score more than seven goddamn points uh the same night LSU you lost to Houston but oh but our coach blah blah blah you have two coaching staffs please you have more than enough guys to figure this oh we lost players Zupidoo do but do suit up some of the fucking coaches you have 200 people in the building you said had to be like we'll do Medicare fraud to get into the big 12 you're not get to complain oh they're too tough oh god no your coach was over there wearing a pretty leather jacket instead of helping that's what he was doing didn't even stick around that's your problem you're the dumbasses who hired him that's right don't blame houston yeah houston saw it was coming all right really one that was the good shit uh Illinois Illinois heating Tennessee but basically but

Basically, Burt being like, sorry, you filled out this piece of paper working correctly. And also, this is two days late. And that means we get four points. And, yeah, by the way, Rule 38A.B says that Josh Eiple's wearing a shacket. And that means that we get four points because you can't do that in Tennessee between. I've worked up your front door. Now you won't make your wedding day. Now your wife is mine.

Yeah, exactly. We have to impanel a jury with people who are your peers. But this is an uninhabited area. So we can't do that. I burped up on your front door. I also burped up on your front door. I'm sorry. I burped up on your wife.

That's how I show affection. She was into it. It's called an Iowa hug. We're both super drunk. Your lady can put it away. She can't. A lot of respect to her. A lot of respect.

That's an Illinois woman, if I've been to say. Luke Altmire played the game of his life. God damn it. Tennessee with the walk-off kick return. with five minutes left yeah this was this was like if you watched the last eight minutes you were just like Tennessee like a valid criticism of otherwise like doing fine Tennessee program went eight and five they've had worse years they've had better years but god damn god damn Illinois absolutely held the ball for most of the last like eight minutes of this game

and then mismanagement insurance sponsored bull to the insurance adjuster hold on I just to put you on hold for 15 more minutes. You won't see the ball again, each of it. You don't know the, according to the computer ratings, the highest rated team that Tennessee beat this year? Florida. Florida, it's going to be Florida, yeah. Four and eight, Florida.

That was a really solid four and eight, though. Hey, a Florida team that didn't embarrass anyone in bowl season, you're right. That's right. Yeah, Texas, you beat Michigan that doesn't have a coach because they fired him like eight minutes prior. Yeah, so good for you. Okay.

Iowa. Thirty, thirty, doing the shit. Doing the shit, Iowa. Randy, your whole thing is winning the crazy town games. Iowa beat you in a crazy town game. They didn't beat you in an Iowa game. They said, okay, we'll be Vandy.

We'll scoot up and down the field. We'll let Diego Pavia have 7,000 yards. Who gives you shit? We'll simply outscore you. You gave up 34 points to Iowa. Say it with me. Heisman wrong snubbed. Mark Grinowski.

That's right. Who was maddest about it? Not Diego Pavia, because if he were, he would have won. Instead, Mark Grinowski said, I take up the mantle of the wronged Heisman candidate. For decades, Vandy was like, ah, stupid nerds, don't care about football. Just smart, smart, smart, smarty, smart, smart. And this year, Vandy decided to be like, we're Theo Vaughn built. We're going to be as stupid as you can completely imagine.

We don't even have a half a brain anymore. That's right. by Iowa in a game where we saw a putter punt from the wrong spot. Are you kidding me? I do like that midway through that game. ESPN was like, well, you know, Iowa does have the Joe Moore Award winning line as they were destroyed. How many teams had the Joe Moore Award winning line? I swear, it's 7,000.

Seriously, it's like nine teams win this award per year. Just say, oh, it was good. Just say I was good. It's a pretty good team, man. It's not pretty. But it wasn't this game. It was beautiful. It was gorgeous.

Beautiful rampant football. I'm holding. I'm holding space for the beautiful game. Jogo Benito as played by the Iowa Hawkeyes. That's right. Three names. Pele, Messy, Farrants, those three, okay? Additionally, in bowl season, Alabama got destroyed, and Georgia lost.

And then Mississippi State lost the Mayo Bowl, the third most sacred of all bowls. Granted, you know, the 5 and 7, they didn't even really, it was kind of them to show up just so we could have a Mayo ball. But still, it goes on the tally as a yet another SEC loss. Dude, Robbie Astford put up 303 yards. Robby Astrid doesn't want to be putting a 300. He didn't go to Wake Forest to do that. You kidding me? Robbie Ashford's like, he's the opposite of Jordan Clarkson.

He's like, it's not Robbie Astrid time. Let me hand this ball off. Oh, damn. So if Miami beats Ole Miss, then the SEC's postseason wins will be Ole Miss, to lane for the second time um and texas beating the michigan that was kind of like in the middle of updating its resume and stuff texas back texas back that's right preseason number one all is that ever gone wrong just once well you know there's recently as this year you know they're the only cc tube that look good the postseason so you gotta think of the number let's also by the way

like nip this in the bud people will be like this is a sea change for college football and you go now because corruption is really the rule here so well we got more money on the books yeah you know who's going to figure out how to cheat and cheat harder that's right the SEC baby that's it when people are like where they will they be back and I'm like yeah but it probably won't be what you like probably won't be good it's probably like you won't be okay with it no I think people are doing the thing where I'm like well now that everyone can pay the player there's the talent is more equally district.

And yes, some of that is true. Also, man, some of these SEC teams are dumb as, they're coached dumb as fuck. You can watch some dumb fucking football in the SEC. And maybe that was true before and the talent sort of papered over it. But God damn, you can see some wild coaching decisions in the SEC. There's a lot of dumbass in this conference. Not, yeah, up to the AD level, baby. Yeah, yeah.

There's a reason Billy Napier held on this long, God damn it. Some really fucking dumb ass. ADs out there and like you know yes obviously making a lot of bowl results is always you know sure like bulls have always been frivolous and unpredictable and never necessarily say a whole lot about

the teams but when you talk all the shit the SEC has talked that's right you had better go better than like two and nine or whatever in the post season when you get as many teams in the playoff as the SEC did like for two straight years yeah two straight years you have

bombed out of the playoff that means should probably take one off season off from talking shit. Won't happen. They'll talk even more shit. That's literally what happened this past season. This past season. They shat all over themselves in last year's playoff and then spit the summer talking about, well, our regular season is so hard.

Well, maybe you should make it less hard. Maybe you're tired. That's it. Fifteen conference games. Fuck you.