Shutdown Fullcast - Fixing the College Football Playoff: Die on Everest

Episode Date: June 11, 2025

This is somehow the first episode where Ryan has reason to ask Spencer "Are you recording your living will right now?"We're joined by Scott of Action Cookbook fame in an attempt to fix the annoying parts of the college football postseason.We do accomplish that goal by the end of the episode. We're calling this solution "The Knockout Game," a term of our own inventionFullcast theme song arranged and performed by Corey CunninghamCheck out Surber’s band, Killer Antz: https://linktr.ee/killerantzListen to Phantom Island, Ryan’s new show with Godfrey, which is not a college football show because a second simply cannot exist, at falconscottproductions.comCheck out Jason's free CFB Watch Grid newsletter and other work: https://www.jasonkirk.fyi/DID YOU KNOW: Holly and Spencer write a year-round newsletter, featuring football and also unfootball things, at https://channel-6.ghost.io/

I wanted to talk to you guys really quickly about a vision of mine that I had. Like a Joan of Arc vision? Like a business, Joan of Arc vision? This is like my Joan of Arc vision. LinkedIn. It is LinkedIn. Well, this could be a hell of a LinkedIn post. So if you'll follow me, you'll see why.

So I get a lot of TikTok content about Mount Everest and about climbing in general. But specifically, there's a lot of people who are putting their Tick-Tock, who are putting their Everett's Journey on TikTok. Why wouldn't you, right? Like, that's what you'd do. If you paid all that money, you'd put your ass out there and be like, yeah, look, I'm awesome. I'm climbing Everest, being dragged up by 155 pound Nepali Man, right?

There's a lot of people who do that. But they all, there's two things that happen. The comments are all like, all that money is total waste time. I'd never do that. And you're like, yeah, just most, yeah, like, nobody should do that. It's a very bad idea. Why are you saying that out loud? And the second is somebody will go, hey, is that a body?

Because inevitably, you're a pop. And to be fair, I feel like these two comments overlap in some key ways. They do. Ryan, you're the source of this because you were talking, you made an excellent argument the other day for leaving a safe deposit box in a city you've never been to or visited to your kids in your will and just not explaining why, which is a terrific idea. And that's what started us on this conversation was. Trying to figure out what wacky thing we could do, like, either in anticipation of or at the moment of our death. And this is where Spencer went. Oh, good.

This is where I went. Because if I was going to go and I was going to leave a special monument, a bit of a memorial to myself, something people could remember me by. It would be this. If I could teleport immediately to the top of Everest, right, right, the terminally ill, they're like, hey, you're a goner. Just skip all the exercise. Skip all the effort. Just zoom. You need to be teleported, or can we, like, parachute you in?

Either one. From space. It's very important that we have an immediate transition from zero feet above sea level or 10 feet of the level. Oh, that's going to be great for your long. The body likes that. Right. Well, I'm already done. Yeah, I get it.

I get it. Are you going to wear a suit or just show up in T-shirt? Nude. So I was thinking flip-flops, cargo shorts, and a shirt. Hell yeah. A hat? You're going to wear a hat. It's cold up there.

We're past that. We're past those concerns. no be we want to be cold we want the flash freezing process to begin instantly okay it could be so fresh I'll be so fresh so all these people are up there and they're all filming filming shit right and they're all like oh look everybody and every now and then they'll just flash down and they'll be a dead person because there's just dead people all over the place up there which is wild because only at mount everest would this be acceptable it's not like you'd go to dope campbell stadium and you're like yeah you got to step over green boots to get to section 133 you say that I don't know New Orleans is the other place where this is actually acceptable There is history of

a dead body just fucking dangling from a building in New Orleans Not that long ago For a while, yeah You're not making that up There was a casino truck That was stuck under the highway Everston, New Orleans

are the two places Where I think this can happen I think this could also work in New York City They got piles of garbage Hey, there's a guy there Hey, I'm dying here Hey, step over When I'm older, I want to be

that New Yorker. Look at his fabulous life. He made it. Only in New York. Okay. So I thought, transport me immediately to the peak. Okay? So I go from like 500 feet above sea level max to 29,000 plus.

I'm out. Passed out instantly. Yes. Right? I'm out. Preferably though, I want to land so that I can fall in the like, not quite a downward dog position, but like with my ass in the air. very important that I pass out on top of Everest with my booty in the air.

I have a question. Are you going to pose like that before the teleportation begins? It's probably prudent. Yeah. If Terminator rules have told us anything, that's what you got to do. Arrange yourself, face down, ass up in the teleportation machine, then straight to the top of Everest. Straight to the top of Everest. So I'm up there, right? And I immediately pass out. There's no way you could go from like 500 to 29 you couldn't go to the death zone without immediately passing out right so i want to make sure that i pass out right on the summit and i have to pass out like right on the summit so i'm going to die and like like a lawn like a human lawn ornament dumped on out your butt cheeks in cargo shorts

will at least for a moment be the peak of earth the highest point on earth i would hope that the closest to the heavens if i can if i can gild the lily a little bit i should have a little bit of ass crack exposed. Sure. Right? Just a really properly... I'm not worried about that, but... Okay.

Good. Good. So, a little bit of ass crack exposed. I'm on top of Everest and I die. Yeah. Now, when I'm up there, I freeze in place. Right. You need a little bit of precipitation going, just to get a good bond with the ice.

No, no. Teleport wet. Yeah, I was going to... How about this? Brilliant. I'm so glad I'm driving this with you guys. Cannonball into the swimming pool and then teleport from the swimming. So you're going to need to be.

need to dive in with your ass in the air, of course. And your clothes wet too. As soon as you're submerged, you're going to die anyway, because what you do is swim out of the pool, and then you zap straight to the top of Everest, like a big ice cube. Yeah. Boop. I'm up there, right? And I die. And I die with my ass in the air on the point that everybody wants to get a photo ticket. Right. With wearing flip flops, wearing some form of flip flops, right? Preferably like a logoed flip flop, like maybe if I can get an Alvin's island flip flop or, yeah. Like, you want something that people will really recognize.

And maybe wearing a pair of Oakleys, I think that would just be, that would just add a nice touch. It's very, the reflection from the snow. You're going to hurt your eyes. That's right. That's right. Also, I want people to know I'm rep in the third coast. I want them to know they're like, this is the Panama City beach of doomed mountaineers. But then, I'm up there and you can't do anything up there.

You can't take your TikTok. You can't take your photo. You can't do any of the stuff without the climate. they call flip flops frozen in place so they can't they'd have to chip me out so you want to become sort of a local legend or I guess a worldwide legend that can't be in the back of every photo do you think right you'd be able to capture you in satellite imagery yes absolutely Spencer's ass from space I might wear a spangly casino dealer vest just to reinforce my visibility yes smart if possible right and because stuff doesn't

rot up there, really? Price his back say condom depot dot com. I could put an advertisement across the back to provide for my children in perpetuity. Right? You can advertise on my course, but that's like

a thousand-year contract. So if Bombas wants to sponsor that, I'll just tattoo it across the back. I established relationship with bombus. I don't know if Bombas is going to go for this. A, because you're wearing flip-flops. Unless you're wearing socks, Sox under flip-flops.

It's cold. You need to keep your feet warm. But Spencer's, like, pretty anti-sock. Yeah. And also, like, Bobmas tries to do the whole, like, and I'm not saying they don't. They're like, we're responsible corporate people, blah, blah, blah, blah. I think you've got to go with like a shameless company. Oh, with the nasty sock company?

Yep. With like the bad boy mowers of socks. Yeah, that's right. That's right. These ain't your mom's socks because you're a guy. Spencer's children, who's providing for your well-being now? Racistsox.com. I don't know what to tell you.

Racistsox.com. In the background. You talk all the shit you want about them, but, you know, my ghost is going like, who, they came through. Watch them digits roll. So, Spencer, during your teleportation, will you send forth any signal or messenger

or anything like that to warn the folks who were there, or will you, like, perhaps phase right through someone who is standing there and cripple that person as well? I would prefer not to do that. Okay. You're going to carefully time it. Yes. I would carefully time it, right?

I'd make sure it'd be at a time when there should be nobody up there, which according to the lore is like 340 days a year. Because you can only get up there so many days with good weather. So they're going to discover you. They'll discover me, right? They'll be like, ah, what a treat we have left for. Now, what's the teleportation goes wrong? And the last moment you have as a sentient being is,

oh no, I got flipped over on my back, and now I'm forever dead in like happy. baby powers. I'm going to have to live with that, right? No, you want. You will most certainly not. Which means to be careful, I need to be wearing a golden palace.com shirt. That says, if you see this, please chisel me out of the ice and flip me over, or my children will not have money for video games.

Yes. I'll be like, dear dentist from Denver, who has $800,000. Dear rapper. Yeah. Dear rapper, dear influencer on their third climb ever, who somehow got up here, please chip me out. Dear Machine Gun Kelly, please flip me over. Oh, Machine Gun Kelly and your boy on Everest, I'm here with flip flops. I'm here with this guy's hands and feet sticking out of the, that's all I see of him.

He's a legend. I see, I'd fuck up. They wouldn't call me flip flops if I landed like that. They'd be like, I'm here with Big Panda, Big Panda on top of Everest. okay so this is this your i don't i don't want to impose here are you recording your living will right now like is this i think is this episode here good great yeah this very episode is going i don't i bet somebody has but this might be the first podcast that is someone's last will and testament certainly the most prominent i'm gonna i'm gonna wager on that yeah i i if

I would go ahead and say, this is legally binding if we invent teleportation of a lawyer and or a form of, you know, like pair, like some sort of high altitude parachuting that would work. Because I don't even know if you can, I mean, I think you can. Could you like, it's hard to stick it? I mean, you could fall. It would be really hard to stick. The winds are probably insane. So you're going to, yeah, that's going to be. You're going to do what if we could we potentially get like, you know those tubes they use to get fish from one part of?

of a lake to another. Or we could we do that with your body up to Everest? Straight from the bottom. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be fun. Like it's 1992 and you are the check that my mother is depositing at the bank. Spencer, would you like to be Fulton extracted to the top of the next?

I'd want nothing more. You and a zebra. We will pad the zebra. The zebra will be fine. Lip-lops. Can I tell you where this might come into play? You need to be a jet to fly that high. a jet doing a fault and extraction would most likely snap the neck of anyone doing it.

Most likely, you're hedging? You're not sure. Ryan, it's important when addressing an audience full of people, including men, mostly men. You have to assume some of them are thinking built different. My neck's fucking strong. My next door. I wrestled in high school. I could easily be jet fulton extracted to the top of Mount Everest. Right. So, but ideally, maybe we've come up with the situation.

I'm in a pool in Kathmandu. The C-5 roaring over Fulton extracts me immediately snapping my neck. You're locked in pose. Ragged all body, jetting up. So the extraction, it does not

like, it doesn't put you in some sort of a full vest harness. It only tugs on your belt, ensuring your ass remains at the optimal angle. Exactly. I'm already flying in the ideal angle. Hips shattered. Yep.

My hips. My hips are essentially. Form with all your limbs flopping. They're essentially the dust at the bottom of a chip pack. Quop corpse going to the top of Mount Everest. Right. Going up. There goes the sloppy man.

Yeah. I've made sure, I've made sure to go ahead and using the colors of the flag of Nepal, set off several smoke grenades before you pull me out, right? And then they dropped me. and then they dropped me and a Chinese flag and a poly flag on the top

in a sign of solidarity. So you were, this is a moment of union. Moment of peace. And then we leave you there, right? Oh, leave me there. That's an important because I am supposed to screw up

every single photo that somebody has paid 400. They're like, I paid $300,000 to get to Everest. This has been a lifelong dream. And they have to take that photo with my white mummified ass in every single

shot. I mean, machine gun, Kelly, already looks like a white mummy, so he's fine with it. Yes, a question from the audience. I was just going to say, can they plant a little flag? They can put it in the crack? Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, but it has, it can't be a big flag. It has to be one of those little model UN flags. I'm going to name it the flip-flops crevasse. What this is going to turn into is when you are old enough that this is the, you're close to your demise. You won't really have your was totally about you.

So we're just going to, like, leave you at the top of Space Mountain and be like, this is what you wanted. You did it. Farewell. Ooh, aren't you so cold? But don't worry. We'll make sure you're wet beforehand. We took our soaked grandpa to the top of the Georgia Cyclone.

And you know what? That would do numbers on TikTok. That would absolutely do numbers on TikTok. The TikTok comments would be an array of, like, God forbid a boy have a hobby. Jesus Christ is real and he is your savior retweet and yeah like there would be all this copy pasta No no no the TikTok comments would be immaculate What are you talking about?

Spencer are you either How would you feel about copycats if you made it to Everest in this pose Would you if others emulated you in some way? Not my concern What if they start piling on top of you? And you can cover up your advertisement What if you were the base? of a tower to the heavens and whoever was on top gets you know they're the ones whose ads get all the

all the visibility so we've called him pork chop dave for a couple episodes now he's fundament this is the weirdest how would this work yeah oh yeah we have a guest here we haven't folks we just now seconds ago um we brought on an architect he's been sitting here tolerating he's just been sitting here and i have this is tolerated all of this was a very smooth intro to folks let's all right Scott is used to tolerating all of us but not in a group

really my my concern or perhaps my hope is that Spencer would end up one of those oddities that you take a drink off of like the there's that bar in the Yukon that has the toe in the jar

I can make him into like an ice luge yeah yeah exactly you see the vision I don't know how drinking it Everest Altitudes works, but if you're already taking a shot off of Spencer's corpse, then in for a penny, in for a pound, right? Spencer now becomes the top

spring break destination for rowdy Australian teens. That's pretty good. They'd be up there in flip-flops and shorts, too. They'd be like, hey, see, dead so. This makes me wonder if people are going to, like, chip toes off of you and keep them as relics. Oh, we're going to sell little bits of him in market squares.

We have market squares again. Yeah, like so many facilities around Earth, we have Spencer's original left big toe. Spencer, if Australian teens get a hold of you up there, you know what they can call you? Flat white. I'd be so honored if somebody did a shooey off of my corpse. Welcome to the shutdown full cast. You are listening to the Internet's only college football podcast. I am Spencer Hall. I am joined this week, as I always am, by Jason Kirk, Brian, Annie, Holly Anderson, and Michael Server on the ones and twos. and we got an and one Anne one

we clasped up the joint we brought us an architect that's right we have Scott a.k.a. Action Cookbook Hello Scott. How are we doing? We're good. We're good. Thanks for having me on. No problem. We have you here to discuss one of your bold

proposals for the playoff era and it was so good that we're like we should we should have you on. Spencer who is Scott? Scott is an architect who also manages to publish. Why don't you keep wearing his day job in? He's trying to live a respectable life. No, because Scott's got one of those magazine jobs where like everybody has it in a movie and like a tenth of the people have it in real life. It's like being a magazine editor. Yeah. He's got like one of those sex in the city jobs where you're like nobody has that job. I've often thought about that about Scott. Architects are real? Also in fairness, Spencer can see me right now. I know listeners can't, but I really look like an architect right now. But in a good way. Yeah, yeah. It's like Patrick Dempsey would wear this in a movie to play an architect. He would. Yeah.

Who wears this to a podcast, though? I'll pick the glasses. Yeah, I was going to say, we need a scarf. You need something. You need something. What do you think an architect is? What are you talking? No, I'm a cartoon architect. I'm talking the architect that somebody falls in love with in like a rom-com. You're talking about an art gallery owner. They start with art. You've been reading New Yorker cartoons again. Come on.

Yeah, he needs to look like an architect from a New Yorker cartoon to be in the rom-com, right? He's in color, though. You ever think about that? Checkmate. The director disagrees with the casting. Nobody's wearing a beret while parked in a car in Kentucky. That would be, listen, I want to do you, right now do you think there's one person? It's June. It is 2.32 p.m. as we're recording this.

Can we crack a window for Scott? Yeah. do you think there is he is inside listening to his favorite music and the AC is on it's fine um is there one person in kentucky at 232 p.m. right now wearing a beret is there one sound off in the comments it's a militia it's a militia member spats here it's got some logo on it that i don't want to know what it means actually it's mark stoops that's the weird part common dot mark stoops it's not on his head but he's wearing it it's her husband I'm deep in the haze of a Cialis fury.

Hold, stop! Go cats! Usually I'm the one who kicks it over the cliff, buddy. Wow. It's a good day. Scott, what is a misapprehension about architects? You're not a Coke commercial film from like a Cialis bathtub? Why? I didn't see you there.

My favorite misapprehension is that we do a lot of math, because invariably, when I say an architect, oh, you took a lot of math. I'm like, dear God, no, I did not take anything past 11th grade aside from structures, and I did poorly in structures. I do not keep the building up. I build it around what the structural engineer does and make sure it doesn't leak. So you just draw lines. Is that right? Yeah, pretty much.

Okay. Well, at a certain level, I just answer emails. Oh, awesome. So you have someone who draws the lines? for you? Yeah. That rocks. Do they still use the drafting table now that everything's automated? Did they have to make all the desks flat? The desks are mostly flat. It's you, that's a shame. You graduate from drawing the lines on the computer to sending the emails about drawing the lines, but at a certain level you get to be the older guy who still has the drafting table. And that's, yeah, that's

the best move. That sounds like, that's like, you're like the legend down the hall. It's like, You got to go see. You're like the goose necklamp. He still gets to draw on paper and just give it to other people. But he speaks the ancient tongue. But what a table do you eat lunch on, right? Like, drafting table has to be a great, I'm eating lunch at the office table. I don't know.

I could roll off. That's why he's the architect, see? Yeah, fuck. You didn't think anything about that. And also, like, if you leave crumbs behind, they are now part of a building. That's just integrating nature. It does explain maybe that one fake rock outside of Panther Stadium that is so small that it looks like a hide-a-key rock, but it's not.

It's just a small fake rock affixed to the sidewalk. They're like, well, it's in the plans. Cookie junk. Put the cookie chunk right here. How many things are starting to make sense now? You laugh, but Franklin Wright, I follow rules. Yeah, you laugh, but Frank Lloyd Wright would have done that. He's like, that's a load-bearing ham sandwich.

Dude, that explains some shit. He was a snacker. Yeah. Love you, Frankie. long time with you can also find scott by the way at action cookbook dot substack.com his outstanding newsletter you should subscribe you should follow etc um i did want to ask scott about this you on the website blue sky if you're familiar um did propose this this is when uh this is about two and a half weeks ago when um that we went to straight seating in the college football

playoff, right? The top four teams, not conference championships. And you were the only person I saw who actually had a good proposal. And that proposal was that every team should get to designate one opponent on their schedule. Should they beat said opponent? And that set opponent would be ineligible for the playoff. Scott, elaborate as to how exactly this would work in your mind. okay so first i think i have to discuss the reason this matters to me is that i was a i was a i was a playoff skeptic going into this past year i was mostly wrong about that i liked the playoff more or less uh i think the expanded access is good but having 12 teams now takes out that that joy of getting knocked out of the playoff by your most hated opponent.

And like, I think we can all agree it's very funny that Ohio State won the national title, but Michigan still gets to hold it over them this year. That's great. It's very funny, but it'd still be better if it were a 13-9 scenario. If it were, you know, Pitt just coming out of nowhere. ruining everything for West Virginia. As Michigan has done to Ohio State many times, I moved to Columbus in 1997. I saw a few of them, a few collective civic crises firsthand. We need to keep that in there. But I think, you know, obviously the people behind the playoff are not going to listen

to my proposal. They're not going to want to keep blue bloods from the playoff. But all they have to do is beat one one little opponent all they have to do is do their job in that one game and and i as as many of you know i'm a i'm a cincinnati bearcats alum and fan uh we have had some great moments in recent years but maybe 80 percent of the time my college football fandom is motivated primarily by spite welcome welcome scott yeah I don't think this makes me unusual. I'm trying to take this all in here, yeah. You know, if you've got a Brian Kelly moment, a Luke Fickle moment, great, great, you can make the playoff or whatever.

If you've got a Tommy Tuberville or a Scott Satterfield moment, you just got to hope to, you know, hit somebody with a sack of doorknobs once and call it a season. Scott, can I interrupt you and say how much I love this proposal. I love this part of the proposal. that you have designed it, not around the paragons of coaching that we might associate with college football. You've actually aligned it with the majority of coaches who you're like, it's that seven and five, fucker. It's that guy. You arrange this around the interest of like mid coaches, like guys who are too good to fire, but who aren't good enough to win championships. And I love that. I mean, he might be a little bit better than that, but it's a Paul Johnson proposal.

you know I we have seen that man ruins so many seasons for the joy of ruining them alone there are a lot of ACC like Dave Doran buddy this is your day in the sun absolutely that's the first name to fight the sun I have some I have some detailed questions about how you envision this working in practice that's all right absolutely number one question let's use Ohio state as an example can only one team on their schedule say we designate you as our Kingslayer opponent as our team that like if we win you're out or can multiple teams can every team on the schedule say this and then it becomes a like impossible gauntlet of you literally can't slip up once like how do you how do you decide like

what the contours and limits of are of this in terms of like who you get to call out I firmly believe that every team should get to pick one and if that means that every team picked the same one fantastic because oh that is good

if you're if you're Indiana are you really going to waste your pick on Purdue this year maybe you would just to make sure you get dramatic back channeling with this because I hear what you're saying

but at the same time there is something funny like let's say Purdue stinks again and they come into that game one in nine or something it's very funny to be like we beat you by 50

and we formally ejected you from the college football playoff just in with all the real line this is a way to I see a way forward here where we can create new rivalries based off of

new conference realignments settle old scores via schools that were in, say, like the Southwestern conference that have now been realigned into the same conference, but also a way to juice rivalries that currently do not have any, even though they should. I am thinking, as always, of the Tennessee-Georgia rivalry, which is boring and dumb and colorless and has no name and has no trophy. Make it real.

Okay. Like, you get, like, there's almost a way to, like, set this up at the conference level to generate ratings for rivalry games that otherwise might not get them. Yeah, I think initially there's going to be a thing like, oh, you picked us, well, fuck you, we pick you. And then at that point, Holly, you do, fuck it. You might as well put a trophy on it.

Or you do the little brother thing. Like you're like, oh, oh, like Vandy, you picked us. That's cool. We don't think about you at all. Scott, my other question is one of timing. I can envision a lot of ways in which this works. This could be a preseason thing, sort of where we say like,

here's everyone's picks. This could actually be a after the end of the regular season where we sort of are like, let's reveal and like the Ohio state team that's like, well, we lost once to Iowa, but surely, ah, fuck, are you kidding me? Like, where do, where do you want this to become public knowledge in the college football calendar? So I see a strong argument for both. I see like, you know, you put a little icon on the schedule at the beginning of the season that says, oh, that's the gold ball game. You can't lose that one. But I could also see

if we're accepting the fact from a pure TV money perspective that this could cost some ratings if we pull Ohio State out of the playoffs, we're all degenerates who watch the playoff field reveal show. But that show would be so much better if you're revealing these

and then opening an envelope to make sure, like, okay, well, Ohio State ranked number two. Let's see if that one lost Indiana mattered. Oh, no. A high potential here for additional cheating scandals because now you have the GAs or whoever or the message board guys trying to break into Pricewaterhouse Cooper's to take the briefcase that has, like maybe what if the briefcase moves with game day every week that has, that has, you know, that has everybody's picks in it. Put the envelopes in the trophy.

Put it in Mike Tiger's case. So wait, wait, wait. In the championship trophy. In which case, Texas has just believed themselves to have won the national championship with a 15 and one record. And then they learn, oops, we weren't even allowed to be in the playoff.

This is their trophy. I want the metallic briefcase with the pitchings. with the pick in it, right? Like a simple like, in fact, you could even do the Mission Impossible ones that have a video screen in it and it's waiting for you on the sideline.

There's a man with sunglasses and it's handcuffed to his arm. No, it's in Mike the Tiger's cage and he's right there. Or there, yeah. And then you do the dramatic reveal of after the game, everyone has to look over

and he does the like opens it up and then you see whether you've designated this as the kill shot game. I have a question about cost and risk there is no risk for the challenging team picking the team at this point should there be

should there be a penalty if you miss that shot for instance this is a hazardous role right this is this is okay if you pick that shot should it mean something negative for the challenging team no because that takes away like that that benefits the blue bloods

only is there a way that prevents like Kentucky from taking a shot at LSU or whatever. Let's do that if you are favored in that game. If you're the favorite and you're trying to knock out the underdog and you lose, you don't get a pick next year. Sorry for framing all of this in terms of potential new cheating scandals,

but then we get a whole new reason for people to try and move the lines for the game. Like, is it based on the preseason line or is it based on the line at kickoff? Based on the odds. I care more about, I mean, more people care about making money off the game than they do about keeping Ohio states pick alive for the following year. So, I don't know, we'll have, we'll workshop this. Someone very prestigious, make sure Vegas isn't fucking with anything. I'm sure we can get it done.

The lack of penalty, I think, would be great if you get into those, like, tight cases where two, you know, maybe two lost teams faced off and one of them beat the other and designated them, but the other one didn't, you know, it really gets into the. how you game out using your pick like oh well you wasted it on on your actual rival and not on strategy and then you get a pretty woman moment there too yeah like no like the when she comes back to the store the big mistake huge one hey we're getting a hellstorm here by the way if you guys if you didn't notice how it just went pitch black in this room that means god favors us um right you mentioned postseason i have a question yeah or possibly a twist i was thinking about things in our current college football framework that need to matter more. And while I agree with Scott that I mostly enjoyed the playoff with like one particular

game as a large exception, what has, what were a lot of people complaining that it devalued last season was bulls. A lot of the bulls have low value anyway. We have been talking and this is a familiar conversation in sports. How do we make the all-star game matter? How do we make the pro bowl game matter? What if you only get to pick this team for the subsequent season, if you will, won your bowl game the year before.

Scott, how do you feel about that proposal? Weird teams win bowl games. I was making an intrigued face that didn't show on camera, on audio, but it's real, yeah, Major League All-Star game, this one counts sort of, I can see it, I can see it. I was also thinking, too, the penalty could be that you have to play in one of the you know, December 12th bowl games

if you lose. What if it is the teams that I'm going to word this carefully did not lose any bowl games? This way three and nine scrubs still have knockout power.

Does that create like a weird incentive if you're like, boy, we're four and four. And I just don't know what we should do at this point. That's fine with me. Let's give EMU a little Ottoman

to step up on. Okay. I mean, if too many teams try to tank out of bowl games in order to preserve their knockout power, we're going to have to dip down and put some four and eight teams in bowls. Scott, there is potential for your proposal to create what I will affectionately call a fucking nonsense playoff where the objectively... Which is my dream. Okay, all right.

That was my follow of question. Are you comfortable with this scenario if it's like, boy, a lot of four lost teams are in this playoff somehow because they didn't have a target on their back and a bunch of one lost teams got knocked out immediately. This is the ACC Coast Memorial bracket. Okay, so you think that's a good downstream effect of this, to be clear. Yes, and I think the announcer should remind us throughout each game. They're like, well, Michigan State wouldn't be here. If better teams hadn't lost one game. See, this would also have a fun. I actually like that because it creates the ability to spin up rivalries between teams that do not play each other?

Like, if you could set up a domino effect to where, like, all of a sudden, you know, like West Virginia and UCLA have beef now? My other question about timing, Scott, we've talked about sort of when the reveal of this might happen. When does the selection need to happen? Do you need to call your shot before this evening? happens or can it be can we be in like October and you can say like this team on our schedule is on a run and we want to knock them off of that run and so it's November 3rd and we are declaring them either publicly or privately like our we haven't used our pick for the season and

now we're picking one when do you want teams to sort of have to commit to their their gold ball team in my head it was before the season but I I'm intrigued by the idea of it being just at any time before kickoff of the game? I was going to suggest this that we're like imagine the voice of a Joe Tessitore type

going and if you'll look avert your eyes for a moment because we're going to see whether we raise the flag of war or not. Here comes the Auburn War Eagle. Here comes the flight right? Like you just raise the flag right? Like it's either got a target on

or it's just a big red flag right? What if you make this, you could also make this a, a little, like, slide of hand, suspenseful moment. Like, you know how the refs are, the refs are walking around with, like, you know, the yellow, they got the yellow flag in their pocket. And what if, you know, soccer rest, they are carrying the yellow card and the red card? What if the coach has, like, a golden tassel and he can just kind of pull it out and shake it, like it's a cat toy?

Can it be, like, oh, the tassel is out? Can it be a bag of glitter that he throws? Like pocket sand? So, like, this is during a game, Iowa is up by 20 on Ohio State, and Joe Tessasaur says, uh-oh, there's the fuck you glitter. The alternative, I think, the other proposal is to go the complete opposite direction. You have to lock this in, like, the week after the previous title game. Like, so, I mean, you know, that way there's still a lot of portal stuff to go. There's a little bit, you know, there might be a coaching change or two.

You got to say, fuck you, we have no idea whether it will be good or not. We just hate you. so it's not about like you know a midseason quarterback injury it is just we specifically hate you from a pure media perspective announce it in like mid-june when you know give us all something to talk about right yeah i i have a way we could do it then that would also play into the pure spite angle what if and i don't know how you would award this to somebody but what if what if again this is like what if this is your bowl victory prize at some point during the season,

maybe this is during those dumb summer meetings at the beach to make those exciting. What if every team is allowed to pick one team on their schedule that they have veto power over? Like if you have some great success in, like you have some great success in the postseason, I'm trying to think of a scenario where

you every team under a certain like level of of like under a certain tier gets to gets veto power over one other team on their schedule in the preseason you can just axe a team out of the postseason you without beating them pre yeah preseason boy like if you if you win something you get to pick one team on your schedule and just say you're not going to the postseason you are going to start you're going to start a war with Yes. Yes. What I'm specifically thinking of right here is like, oh, Bobby. And I think you would probably have to have like critical mass here or something, but this is where you could get fun again. I'm not thinking of like, okay, let's everybody gang up and knock out Ohio State here. No. I'm thinking of stuff like coaches putting their heads together in Destin and saying, hey, Mississippi State's freshman quarterback looks like he's going to be a fucking problem. Let's go ahead and squash that right now. So your proposal is that we should use this power to keep Mississippi State out of the playoffs. It's funnier. No, this is what I'm saying. It's funnier if it's a team that's not going there anyway. Yeah, but what this is inevitably going to lead to it. I am high on Mississippi State for this next year for this exact reason.

I think they're going to be a goddamn problem. I can't. You didn't have to play that quarterback here, man. All I'm saying is, and I think Serber will agree with this, the circumstance you're creating is going to is going to lead to a scenario in which South Carolina intentionally tanks a season so that they can ban Clemson from the postseason the next year. Yeah.

Because here's. Yeah. And vice versa. Right. Here's for it. Yes. I will participate. And here's why that's good.

Here's why I think that that is a net good. We take the charity bowl, right? Great example. We thought this was going to be a problem. problem after a few years where Michigan started winning every charity bowl year after year, there was no longer any drama to it, any suspense. We were wrong about that because ultimately what we found out was even teams in their own conference like Minnesota and Wisconsin is a great example. Minnesota and Wisconsin do not give a shit about being Michigan in the charity bowl.

Minnesota and Wisconsin give a shit about beating each other. Like this would be a way to, you know, we talk, we complain during every postseason format we've ever had, we have complained about how, oh, you know, all we, you know, we're talking too much about the postseason in September and we're not worrying about the games. Here's a way to restart those conversations. Scott, I have another wrinkle I'd like to propose that I think might appeal to you for reasons that will become clear. So let's say, I'm looking at Cincinnati's 2025 schedule. Let's say Iowa state says you know what fuck iowa we're not worried about them we're picking the bear cats as our knockout team if i add a wrinkle that says if you are knocked out by your knockout by the by a team

that has selected you your university can if it so chooses immediately fire your coach with no bias do you think that is i love this i love this let's do it now is there any sort of a way to accumulate additional knockouts like could you well so i was oh like could you stack them year over year do you get roll over roll over that's that's that's one version of it yeah if you're like we just don't have it this year we're going to roll or can you roll them up jason did you mean can you pass yours to another team i wasn't thinking of that i think you have to earn them for yourself like you can't just designate um texas as your second to defeat i was i was wondering if like

if you get a if i was thinking about like building alliances with lesser teams in the and this would help them be more involved. I think I would like a system where lower-tier teams have some sort of additional boosts, some sort of blue shell here. And I don't think the tanking element is as big of a concern, because if everyone is doing that, then, oh, look, college football is shitty and chaotic and weird. Isn't that so different? If everyone is trying only to beat their rival and nothing else, it'll look like college football.

but like teams that are genuinely bad so like we put bill connelly in charge of picking which teams deserve extra knockouts or something like that it's not it's not about your record specifically so we have like we have the promotion relegation line but below this line there's treats sure UMass gets like all their games are knockouts I think that's fair is that the world we kind of live in right now though like if you lost to UMass semantically yeah but what if we conified it right Imagine last year. I mean, Notre Dame loses to NIU and then they think, oh, we recovered from that. Well, no, you didn't, right?

Right, right. This should cover the whole postseason two and not just the playoff that if you're an Akron and a Kent State and you know that you're probably going to intend this season. At the very least, a Kent State may actually want to make a Motor City Bowl. and even taking that away from them is something. So you could... This is what we use the coaches poll for. The coaches should pick these teams. So you could theoretically

to just like knock Toledo out of the Mac Championship if you're at-ranked. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. So that sort of leads into my next question, Scott. Again, let's do this from the perspective of you're a Cincinnati fan. Who do you want making this pick? Is it the athletic director, the coach? Is it some sort of fan vote?

What is the method by which you want Cincinnati to call out a team on its schedule? This is going to be a surprising statement from me as a Cincinnati fan in the year 2025, but I think the coach should make the pick. Scott trusts Scott Satterfield is what a year. No, I want Scott Satterfield to have another thing on his head. There's more opportunities to. fire him I think I think

it's got to be all on you yeah we've got to spend him off to a location where he cannot consult with his his athletic director or although I do think you want like the family huge second contestment set up

where you go in his booth oh yes you have so like Scott Satterfield doesn't get any film analytics nothing you hand him the schedule and he has to uh panics and just uh BYU and everyone's like, no, you're hitting it. Scott Siderfield calls out, BYU.

The Packers? Dude, you know what else you could do? These are all good ideas, to be clear, and we should implement all of them. But what if, like, and every school could decide how to do this differently, what if there's, no, that these people would be immediately killed, but what if it was a designated fan? And I was thinking, like, this could be like a lottery, and I was like, oh, this is like, Shirley Jackson's the lottery. Yeah.

Yeah. So, no, I'm taking to this idea because it's like the fan that wins a sandwich at the game, whatever. There are guys who do this. The, like, I could suit up tomorrow and play for this team, guys. They would want this. They want this heat. Okay. I'm thinking beyond, like, a 12th man super fan.

I'm thinking we are picking a random seat out of the stadium. Oh. You know, the fan in section 210, row 6. So it is Shirley Jackson's lottery. And it turns out to be, like, my 10-year-old son. Everyone's not booing and relentlessly. Wait, wait, but if they call it, like, imagine the legendary status that that a person has. Oh, it'd be incredible.

My 10-year-old son may not know everyone who's on our schedule, but he does know what teams I hate. That was my next question. If you were in charge of this selection for Cincinnati, which I think should be afforded to you, who are you calling out with the... UCF. UCF. Straight to him. October 11th, Unipert Stadium.

I want to examine that a little bit. Some part of your logical brain must think... I have not examined it. But some part of your logical brain must think, like, that's unnecessary. Time and circumstance will sort UCF out of the playoff. Do you just want to do this to be an asshole? It's fine if you do. I just want to be clear.

Mostly yes. Also, in the EPS case, there would be like 100 coaches voting UCF just on print. which is it's a credit to their social team sure we can't be too safe and you know UCF went 0 and 12 and what four years later when 12 and 0

well also imagine the propaganda posters that we could get out of this like the UCLA menace or the UCF menace must be stopped is your bathroom harboring citronauts it's like at the rank choice like don't rank who you like rank

Q CF. Oh, a whole separate set of rankings for these. Oh, God. Who on Cincinnati's schedule, and I'm sorry to put you on the spot about that, who are you most concerned would call out the Bearcats as their knockout game? I would have to assume, well, I guess they're not on our schedule anymore because they backed out. I was going to say Miami of Ohio. Bowling Green's on there. No one else is anywhere near you. That does raise the question of, now that you mentioned the schedule

and I'm thinking about who our early games are should there be something that the FCS teams get to do and I Oh, I think are all FCS games automatic knockout games?

Are they as an FCS lost a multi-year knockout? Yeah. Oh no wait. What if the SCS game is like not only are you knocked out but you lose your knockout pick? Yeah.

I think that's it. I think that's it. Your whole schedule is now safe. Like your credits ruined basically. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, okay, good. Nobody on the, until that entire, you could do like a clent.

You could have a call for a cleanse and be like, you can't do this. You can't pick again until your entire team has graduated. So I see, the SEC's mid-November Socon Challenge is now a massive risk. For, yeah, well, and also a massive health risk for the FCS players involved, come to think of it. Well, that sort of opens up. Scott, what do you think, if in the world where your system becomes playoff law, postseason law. It will. Utopian world, yes.

What do you think teams are, like, how do you think this impacts scheduling? Like, does it factor into, like, who you decide to put in your non-conference? Or is it just, like, it really doesn't matter because we have no idea if they're going to pick us or not? I think, I think, ultimately it's not going to matter because, assuming that it is the coaches making the pick to not my 10-year-old son, uh, coaches are going to have to answer for these. and there's going to be some segment of the fan base that we will be mad every year if you don't pick your arch rival

regardless of their playoff chances like this is the way you do it you got to pick A&M every year and again I do like the added pressure this creates on the coaches having to negotiate that I lost my train of thought here entirely because none of this makes any sense

but we should be doing this at the Dallas Marriott in a ballroom with a bunch of reporters around us all like shadowing us for this this is this is why they're in a hotel room in a boring city for that's oh oh this just gave me an idea though all 128 or 130 whatever fbs coaches conclave that's they basically do that right after the season at AFCA. They are all sequestered without their athletic directors, without their SIDs, all in a room with their picks to make. Unlimited 10 patches, no phones. Does open up the potential for shady backroom dealing.

We want that. We want the conspiracies. We want the, you may have traded your pick to somebody for unclear benefits. I actually really love the idea of these guys being barricaded. into a ballroom without their athletic directors or their SIDs. And like, let's see who really has the Machiavelli chops. I trust one coach to do that,

to come out as the vape pope, right? Is it Bobby? No, it's Brett Bilemma. Oh, God, you're right. Brett has demonstrated the consistent ability to rat-fuck people with rules and tiny regulations, In my defense, I was picking an Arkansas coach, and I think I was on the right track.

You were, but I think Brett is the one who, more than anyone else, would concatenate a long series of picks so that an eight and four Illinois team somehow makes the playoff. He'd look great as Pope, although he's got a very large head. It's a little like that. They'd have to, the hat, the hat on him would look like when parents tape a little hairboat to their baby. head. Well, they'd put the, they'd put, like, the adjustable strap on the back. Like, it's a baseball. That man would look like an upside-down ice cream cone.

Mm-hmm. Scott, who do you think, just going off your knowledge of college football? Who is this, you pick one, but only one? What team is that going to be hardest for? Who's going to have the, like, most miserable time figuring out who to do you dad? I'm sorry. I went and Google to see if the Pope had ever had to have a hat taped to his head. and instead I got this CBS Sunday morning video entitled

3-year-old who removed Pope Francis's skull cap speaks out Until you said cap I was very confused It's like damn what a 3-year-old See you know we have we have kid baker shows And we don't have like a child mortuary show Junior mortuary No nobody's buying this okay Durber likes it I see you

mortuary babies like Muppet babies It's very important to comfort the family Stop it No you don't get to do voices today Sorry nanny I'm blending concepts now What if losing an FCS game

Or losing whatever It's still the coach conclave But if you incur whatever penalty Then we pick a random fan to represent you Instead of your coach Yeah, so it's like So it's Brett Bilema negotiating with my 10-year-old son Yeah

It really is keeping in the spirit of college football That we are making this more and more arcane As we go along with no foundation for it whatsoever Representing Georgia Kirby Smart The playoff has brought too much logic into the equation I think that's really this needs to bring back some chaos Really that's the main problem with it I'm really looking for yeah I'm really looking forward to a scenario

Where one loss kicks off a series of alliances and trades not unlike the beginning of World War I where we have no idea what we've actually done to unravel the fabric of our college football reality. Imagine the faraway, tired look in Kirk Herb Street's eyes as he has to explain all of this line by line in a television special. This is, yeah, I mean, last year we saw it like,

okay, the playoffs gone from 4 to 12. This requires 15 minutes of explanation in every single broadcast all season long. This shit right here is going to be an hour per day. You can hear them all start to, like, you could hear the part where they all had to flip to the part in, uh, in the production book for that night where they got to like, you, you could hear about two weeks into this every single broadcaster, regardless of experience or level of crankiness, just do a little like, well, here is the, here is the real chaos that Scott's going to unleash upon the world. Intentionally or not. I don't know. Take last year as an example. Let's say we lost two teams from the playoffs. as a result of this, you have now opened up a world where we have, like, we didn't really

have, the whole, like, should Alabama get in with three losses, should South Carolina? Like, that was there, but it was mostly bullshit. But now you are opening up a world where everyone, including the playoff committee, is going to have to breathlessly explain why this four lost team, because we had three open spots to fill, is better than this other four lost team. So just, and it's going to just be absolute bullshit. looking at the teams we made it last year Ohio State is super fucking out of it

just mega out of this thing Notre Dame is also out of it I'm looking at the others trying to recall who they lost to I think Penn State probably is fine I think so let's see

Georgia Old Miss would have tagged Georgia I think Old Miss would have tagged Georgia I don't think they would have given a fuck about Mississippi State, and I think, I think Lane would have picked Georgia. Possibly, possibly. I think it's at least a possibility.

Certainly. It's the trolliest pick, so that's what it would have been. Mississippi State would be the trolleest pick, I think. Furman. Bermon would be the trolleest pick. Boise's obviously fine. Yeah. Really, the way that Ohio State won the championship

with a bit of an asterisk this year, it would be Penn State winning, winning with the asterisk of no one we didn't think you were going to make it oh we didn't pick you oh the codified how embarrassing in us oh god

revealed nobody nobody believed in you in fact nobody believed in us list we really didn't believe in you we found the one and only team nobody believed in it's gonna be and there's gonna be good split titles here because there's gonna be like whole breakaway sex that are like

Scott's full of shit we've started our own associated press This is what Cincinnati football is more breakaway sector. That's right. That's right. Penn State is the Tom from Succession. Just waiting around. On a number of levels, yeah.

Except he wins in the end. Wow. I mean, you're not wrong. You're not wrong. You're not wrong. You talk about talking about. Oh, so that brings up another question for me, Scott. What do you do in the circumstance where a team has tagged someone?

Like, let's take Texas, Georgia. Let's pretend. that Texas had won the regular season game, but Georgia had won the conference championship. And let's say Georgia had picked Texas. If you play a team twice and you split the result, what happens in your system? Well, since it's not reciprocal, it only matters who picked two. So let's say Georgia had picked Texas and went one and one against them and didn't win until the second.

Okay, gotcha. As long as Texas didn't pick them, you've got to use your pick wisely. Gotcha. Thank you. I want some situation where somehow a series of countervailing picks eliminates both teams in a game. I want that so bad. In a single game. In a single game. Like somehow we managed to tie up the contracts to the point where it negates it.

And both teams are like, we both lose. I think this is, again, this is my weekly mention of Tech Georgia from last year. That's the only logical conclusion. Removing ties from the game really did eliminate. A dastardly angle on this particular side. It was a cowardly abandonment of tradition is what it was. Completely agree. Ties, especially because going for the tie was such a dick.

Oh, yeah. The dick and a move. Make everyone unhappy. Yeah, that's it. Like, I'm not playing to win. I am playing to make everyone here as discontented as possible. I'm not even, I don't, I'm going to deny you the agony of loss. I am playing to have wasted, in.

In retrospect, the previous three hours, indeed the entire previous week. Yeah. Like, how did you do? Well, not great, not bad. We're emotionally now at the spot where, Scott, when you first brought this up, I misunderstood the concept, and I thought it was like, just, you know, well, we've added a lot of rules to it since then. But I will admit that the first thing I thought of,

when you said the first team I thought that I would want to knock out of the playoff with a preseason pick for no reason was vanderbilt yeah totally unnecessary i know that's that's that's that makes it better yeah no there is there is a like i think this has more any asshole can keep alabama out of the playoff apparently well you keep alabama out there oh shit i'm putting alabama in the playoff by knocking vandy out okay so here here scott here is emotional question to ask you do you think it would feel worse to lose a game and find out yep that was that you were the knockout opponent you're out or do you think it would feel worse to beat a team you didn't think you were supposed to be and find out whoops they weren't on our dance card we weren't

the one oh definitely definitely that one yeah then you should have you should have believed in yourself in yeah like if if n iu had not picked notre dame last year and they win that game and then they're like oh gosh there was just a conference opponent we really wanted to ruin their day and said people would be pissed people would be pissed yeah 100% 100%

because and again I'll go back to 2025 Purdue my wife is Purdue graderable family's Purdue fans I speak with kindness for Purdue they were they were bad whoa whoa whoa whoa

hot takes again I'm not even laughing at that I'm laughing at the back to back sentence if I will speak kind of Purdue, they were bad. Which is true. That is the kindest thing I can say. No, that is a kind way to describe it.

That is true. Oh, boy. If you're going into last year's Purdue season, and maybe you're not predicting Indiana to make the playoff, maybe you use it on the way. I am. I just to be sure.

Maybe you use it just to keep somebody else out of a mediocre bowl game because that's the best you can hope for. And this is all, very hypothetical since they lost to Indiana by 66 points, but had they beaten Indiana and not used it? How do you answer to yourself for that? How do you answer to your fans? How do you answer to anyone if you didn't, if you didn't do more? Frankly, I think the playoff committee should take that into consideration. Obviously Indiana was kind of teetering at the end of the

season, but if they had lost to Purdue, even though Purdue was, as you say, bad, Scott's words, not mine. And people would say like, well, that should knock them out. I would argue, it'd be like, well, Purdue didn't think so. Purdue didn't put them on the card. So if the team that beat them doesn't think that should knock them out of the playoff, why should the playoff committee think that? And I know the committee never explains their metrics, but I think they should have to

issue written decisions like the Supreme Court. Should they have to line up on different sides of it as well? dissenting opinions even just so they can get out there and say we didn't want to put Alabama in the playoff but Michigan State fucked everything up for us so I would love that reveal by the way if Indiana after there's 660 program worst loss ever defeat of Purdue if they had gone over to the guy with the briefcase on the sideline and he opens it up And it's like, we had you. We had you.

I'm for whatever layers another strata of comedy on top of this. And I'm all for it. The guy holding the briefcase pulls off a rubber mask and it's Jackie Chan. That, you know what? I think that is a way you should be able to accumulate picks for the next year. If you, if you get called out and you win that game, I think that should be a pick you get to make next year. Oh, free square, yeah. Or at least if you win by 30.

If you're an underdog or something. I don't think we want to discourage people from just calling out Ohio State and Texas all they want. I don't think it means you take that team's pick in the future. Right, but still, I don't think you should be allowed to just call out the biggest name you want without any fear or risk. Like this should completely privilege the little guys. I hear you. I hear you. I hear you.

I do think for whatever it's worth, I do think there is some merit to. putting a limit on like let's say three teams can call out only three teams on your schedule can call you out not necessarily because i'm trying to protect the blue bloods but because i really want to spread this around a little bit like i want i want unexpected teams to be like what the fuck you put maryland dog the fuck is here we go what if it is we can we can game this out to and uh by saying okay we're we're we're going to cut down on we're trying to cut down on we're trying to cut on all the back room, malingering, because it's going to get out of hand very fast. So what if there are a limited number of, like, remember the signing day fax machines?

Yeah. What if it is a limited number of picks can be applied to each team and it's first come first serve? That's great. Yeah, I love that way. Which can still make it, which would maintain because the little guys will be able to like, okay, you know, obviously this is the pick on their schedule. And the folks who are, you know, like flying back and forth and meeting at the Atlanta airport, just to pick an airport that coaches meet at for no reason. and they're going to have to work faster, but they have the budgets to do so.

I do think this conclave should take place at the Atlanta airport, actually, now that you say that. Just clear out of skyclubs. Just in the concourse. They don't have a workspace. In the line at Popeyes. At the B concourse Popeyes.

In the line at Popeyes at 7 a.m. on a Monday. Oh. I have a question, Ryan, for you. We have to pick one, right? For Florida? You two have to agree on one. You get one. You get one minute.

We don't have to agree. I really want to see if we pick this. You get one minute to knock this out. Okay. What's your... I have chosen. I do like a rock paper scissors thing and then hash it out. I'm pulling...

Well, no, actually, I know who I want to pick. Okay. Do you want to try to say it? One, two, three, and we'll see if we match up? Yes. One, two, three, or is it one, two, three, go. One, two, three. One, two, three.

LSU. LSU. all right okay because like what was your rationale um the florida georgia game is late enough in the year that you have like a good sense of like oh like stakes involved in this it's a weird game where it's not it's not quite oklahoma texas but it's sort of like it's a better team doesn't always win that and like i don't know it's a good it's a good hater choice it's a really really strong hater choice well i hadn't really considered either yet was like the placement of the games on the calendar

and how that would affect it. And so that's the other reason I don't like LSU as much as it's too early in the year and its current setup. And I don't personally like that but I want to hear your case. I like incorporating the calendar in this. Florida Times almost up. Hurry up. My case is on some fuck

Brian Kelly shit. If we picked because because if you scuttle them early, the fall from orbit is long and spectacular. He's going to spiral bad. You got two months before this impact. the ocean. There's all kinds of crazy stuff that's going to happen. Yeah, that's some deep impact shit. Okay. Holly, who's Tennessee picking? Brian Kelly's going to have to marry Elijah Wood.

Have to. Holly, who is Tennessee picking for the schedule for their call? I mean Elijah Wood now, not as a child. Calm down. Um, I already said. Vanderbilt. Um, listen, in, in previous years, this would have been like a pure spite pick. But, Vandy has beaten Alabama, has beaten Tennessee in recent years. I think we can't be too careful. Okay, gotcha. I think you got to fight the devils you know also. Who the fuck knows what Georgia?

Like, we know they have Diego Pavia this year. Who the fuck knows what Georgia is going to look like with Gunner Stockton back there full time? Okay, gotcha. This is also, again, late in the year is the other. Scott selected UCF for Cincinnati server. Who do you want to have for Clemson? Wake. Wow.

So mean. So mean. Commissioner's point of order. Is there, is there, what if we talked about stacking these picks, if we save up a number of tokens, can we pick a team that's not on our schedule? What happens then, though? Oh. Okay. Gotcha.

I was just thinking about... I was thinking about how many coaches violently just like Brian Kelly. Oh, it's Louisville. Okay. Yeah. Okay. That's good. That's spicy.

Jason, who's kennels all safe picking? Well, we accomplished it last year without the system. Really, I would say in a way we were the innovators of this, quite frankly, because I don't know who's forgotten it by now. But we did manage to go ahead and knock Liberty University out of the playoff. And we'll do that again this year. Jason, did you guys beat them at any other time during that calendar year? Well, we knocked them out of March Madness in previous year. That is interesting.

But, yeah, I was on the field enjoying it as Liberty's hopes went down in flames, as it were. Additionally, my CFB 26 team, I think I'm going to go with Florida International, and I want to play at Pitbull Stadium. And they do play Penn State, but they also play Liberty. So we're going to hit them twice.