Shutdown Fullcast - FULLCAST AFTER DARK: CFB POSTSEASON RETVRN/ASSLESS JNCOS/HINDU LANE KIFFIN

Episode Date: December 22, 2024

RIP our mentions (all of them)Holly sneaking in a dog adoption plug, coonhoundrescue.com Stop telling Jason he made an anti-Catholic wager. ThanksIndiana did fine, actuallyBlowouts are also fine, actu...allyProduction meeting for our forthcoming NFL playoffs coverageWould anybody else wanting to explain FCS football to us please come over this way [dragging carpet of ACME camouflaging grass over pit of sharpened stakes]Checking in on Live Laugh LaneCalling out perennial bullies Boise and Arizona StateOregon, go ahead and hang your banners right nowTime to nickname Ashton Jeanty, for Spencer's sakeThis is about where things really fall apart. There is almost an hour left in the showWitness Ryan's becoming [CW: giraffes]So whose team/conference gets to be mad now and whyAn accord on the funniest possible outcome for the postseason is reachedThrowing up some emergency barricades against the But Their Injuries and What A Waste DiscoursesThe campaign to save home-site postseason games starts right hereWe finally got to meet preseason Ohio StateARIZONA STATE IS HERE AND THAT'S GREATThere are many changes occurring in this sport right now. ACC refs are not one of themFlorida is good again, maybeNot for the first time, we demand that the title game be parked at the Rose Bowl and left thereFixing the rest of the postseason, while we're at it. You're welcomeIntroducing our Kirby VoicesFullcast theme song arranged and performed by Corey CunninghamListen to Ryan's other, less harrowing show, We're Not All Like This, and check out his new narrative podcast with Steven Godfrey, Who Killed College Football? https://www.wkcfb.com/Check out Jason's free CFB Watch Grid newsletter and other work: https://www.jasonkirk.fyi/Find Holly and Spencer writing and chirping at https://channel-6.ghost.io/Purchase only the finest Fullcast gear at sunny https://preownedairboats.com/

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Well, hello there. Will Howard is 12. Oh, my God. Just hallowing. The world. Sometimes, you know, you just got to address everyone. You just walk into the publics like that? I know where I used this example already this season,
Starting point is 00:00:14 but Will Howard looks like an agincourt page. Except he lived, bitch. Damn. He did. And, man, you want to talk about long-distance weaponry destroying the enemy? My God, dude. That one in the back left corner. of the end zone, Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:00:32 In like the third quarter, oh, I need, I did not have time to, I know we're going to start with the, I know we're going to start at the beginning. I did not have time to go back and scrub through to find the exact play, but there's a hit on Deshaun Bishop in like, maybe like two thirds the way through the first half where I didn't even see who did it. Like, I didn't even catch a jersey number. I have to go back and look for it. But, like, it looked on the broadcast.
Starting point is 00:01:02 I was watching on Skycam. I might have been different at field level. It looked on broadcast. Like, Deshawn Bishop just ran into this Ohio State dude's arm and fell over. Yes, I know that. I remember this one. Like, he closed, like, the guy didn't move. Like, he fucking clotheslined him.
Starting point is 00:01:17 It was, oh, my God. It was a hit. Like, I yelled, oh, my God. And I'm not sure I've done that this year. It was a hit that had the malice of tar, that the targeting rule is meant to. Yes. capture but was but was a hundred percent not targeting like it was so mean that for a minute part of my brain was like is that targeting it looked like it looks like a mortal combat
Starting point is 00:01:40 is it it's like one of those things where you go there is a point in the art of boxing that is actually murder if you do it well enough however it's still allowed under the idea like you could punch someone straight through their head in boxing it's possible i'll find it for I'll find it for top whatever because I need to go back and look at this but like it was the dude it was the coldest fucking thing I've I don't know the last time I saw a hit that was like that like because usually when it's a big defensive hit like it's when I think of like most memorable hits like favorite hits it's dude getting slung out of bounds right like it's a dude or or flipped ass over teakle or decleaded or whatever but no he just stood
Starting point is 00:02:19 perfectly fucking still it was um god you know you know how there's there science has figured out how hard you would have to slap a piece of chicken to cook it? Spencer and I spent a lot of time last year calling professional wrestlers and actual scientists to ask if you could hit someone so hard in the butt that they would pass out. Right. The answer was... I feel really bad that I don't know who this was for Ohio State, and I'm going to go back and find his name for Top, whatever, but I feel like that kid could do it. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:02:49 I'm not even mad. That was incredible. Science doesn't... You know what? I believe in faith. Not science. I'm saying, go Ryan Day and the rule of law. I felt bad before I even got that all the way out. All right, Spencer, you have to start the show now. Gross.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Forecast After Dark for men Brought to you by Rise Picks Welcome to the forecast after dark Woo Ferris state bulldog noises What does a bobcat say? What does a bison say besides bison's?
Starting point is 00:03:49 Bobcats says undefeated That's right That's right Listen, all I know is that If you heard dogs, that's because we had three of them on the schedule today, baby. Woo! Absolute dogs. And, yes, the FCS teams.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Man, we need Bud. We always need Bud, but this is the time where I really need Bud. Because at front of the program, Katie, was pointing out earlier tonight, you're telling me that all I had to do to pick these games was look at the 24-7 composite, and yet I'm not supposed to consider that a correct method of predicting. just yeah wow we're going to start chronologically in discussing these games yeah i got a lot of people to tell they'll kill themselves i'll be back in a minute yeah don't do that on blue sky because they'll be like oh my god you actually mean it i will say that you know you remember how we were joking about how blue sky was more women prison guards the website i have i have blocked more annoying women tonight like reply girls are making a movement i have a theory that somehow people out in the world
Starting point is 00:05:01 have like hsa accounts but for annoying posts and they have to use them up before the end of the calendar year because they don't roll over i i unlocked my uh i unlocked my twitter account earlier this week because i was going on knoxville radio to talk about god i'm glad i did it this week. While everybody was in a good mood, TLDR, the Coonhound Rescue Society that I worked for, I was talking to our volunteer captains in, oh, I'm accidentally plugging it right now. Look at that. Shit! I was talking to our volunteer captains who, my like delivery route that I run for delivering rescue dogs is Tennessee, Georgia, Alabama. And I was talking to the volunteer captains for those states earlier this week, and they were talking about how they have seen record numbers of
Starting point is 00:05:47 cone hounds dumped in shelters from hunting packs just turning up by the roadside and so i went on a good bunch of them were blue ticks so i went on knoxville radio this week to talk about like hey while everybody's in a good mood maybe go get you a smoky dog um and i left my twitter account unlocked this week in case anybody wanted to know more about dog adoption we do have a new shuthound who joined the family today thank you alison for adopting our user our user alison a adopted a dog named Georgia from Texas. There's probably a joke in there. But I left, anyway, I love the thing I'm trying to get to is I left my Twitter account
Starting point is 00:06:28 unlocked. And my Twitter mentions were better than my Blue Sky mentions tonight. It's incredible. Yeah. Y'all brought it. Spencer, you got it worse than I did. I have many people who believe they can tell me a goddamn thing. You got people who think you're a Tennessee fan.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Are you okay? I did get to. Hey, but this is fun payback for the time. when you were mistaken for a Florida fan, Holly. Oh, no, I was thinking about the time I was mistaken for an Alabama fan, and I forgot about that. Am I that friend? I'm too friendly. I got to work on that.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Is that? Okay. Yeah. We're all Kentucky fans, I think. This is, you know what? I will say this. Every idiot, blue sky reply person, who, including the person, and maybe you're listening. Blue sky was worse than the game. You're going to take a note here, by the way, because you said, you know, a lot of these
Starting point is 00:07:17 people are really humorless and I think they need to learn that and that includes me so why did I say any of this to begin with and I'm like don't I don't need all that I didn't need all that you don't have to press post nope the beauty of the internet is you never have to press post but upies mommy upies remember this program sponsored by upies the WMBA no that's my no don't reveal my business idea oh sorry all right all right this is for the off season but I'm starting a WMBA dating app that's just called Uppies for all these dudes online that are in Asia Wilson's mentions.
Starting point is 00:07:51 USC Yukon was a fucking heater, by the way. Yeah. Have we talked about how, have we talked about how USC has this, like, crazy streak of insane athletes, both on the men's and women's teams named Juju? Yeah, it's interesting. Like, Juju Smith-Schuster has given way to,
Starting point is 00:08:09 and then they've got, they've apparently got, there's like a, I think there's a quarterback, in one of their upcoming classes who's also named Juju. So we just have this unbroken rain. It's great. Interesting. What do you guys want to talk about?
Starting point is 00:08:24 Friday night. Notre Dame welcomed Indiana to town. A game that was of interest. First home playoff game in FBS history. Jason, our bet's going to have to wait. Notre Dame did a bunch of stuff in the first few minutes. It's not a bet. I'm going to clear this up right now.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Somebody made it a bet. It's not a bet. I am not the best. going to say some things right now. I have been, and everyone is going to listen to me talk is what's going to happen. I have been accused of laying out some, like, bone-deep agenda against Notre Dame because I have this, like, vendetta, and I have sworn an oath that they must be the first team to lose a home playoff game.
Starting point is 00:09:04 That is not what happened. What happened is, what happened is the shutdown fullcast was accused as a group of determining Penn State would be the first team to lose a home playoff game, right? I opted out of that. I said, I think it'll be Notre Dame, and there's obvious reasons. One being Notre Dame often finishes in the top ten, and they're not eligible to host a first-round game in the current format. Therefore, Notre Dame is the obvious choice. And whenever this would arise, I would say, no, don't count me in the Penn State group. I'm in the Notre Dame group. This morphed into this whole, like, me hating Notre Dame thing. No, stop telling me I hate Notre Dame.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Notre Dame's basically like super Georgia Tech if you watch them what can you possibly hate about that they're handsome Georgia Tech yes yeah exactly they're their private school Georgia Tech they're like dad dad got us like big veneers when we turned 17 and
Starting point is 00:09:58 we skied at Vail not in West Virginia yeah that's what Notre Dame is as a football team meaning in imminently respectable and a superb approach to the game which is mainly elegant headbutting. There's a lot of elegant headbutting that goes when Notre Dame plays a team like Indiana
Starting point is 00:10:17 and just decides to beat the shit out of them. That's, if you want to know the nasty truth about this Notre Dame team, it's that they really just like running the ball and hitting you real hard. Yeah, I mean, the defense is legit, which, you know, I think we all knew. We saw what they did with a wide variety of offenses this year. This game was weird. The score just sat. The score became ugly very quickly for Indiana,
Starting point is 00:10:45 and then he just sat there for a long, long time. And I think the phases of this game, time period phases of this game are fascinating because, like, the middle 40 minutes, just nothing happened. And the score just sat there and sat there and sat there looking gross and looking bad and just like seeping in. They're like, oh, my God, Indiana sucks. But, like, if you actually look at what happened here,
Starting point is 00:11:04 it's, you know, Notre Dame got a couple of really big plays, won a 98-yard run. and like yes those plays happen and those plays count and they're important and all that but like if you look at the context of each play other than that one play indiana played notre dame pretty even and that's not to say Notre Dame is bad as noted i love Notre Dame and that's not to say like we're you know sticking up for Indiana or whatever uh it's just to say i don't think this was as big a blowout as it felt like and like yes i'm aware most of indiana's points were total garbage time um but like taking on a hole indiana did fine and Notre Dame is a potential national title winner maybe that game was making a sourdough starter elaborate it had to sit there it had to
Starting point is 00:11:49 ferment okay okay I feel you you had to flip it stretch it a couple times right yeah okay okay hey Floyd I also I appreciate Indiana being the most relatable team in saving their best efforts plans and execution for the exact last minute. Indiana had a plan to win this game in the last three minutes of the game. And that, damn, if it isn't personally relatable. After Kurt Signetti talked a lot of shit, which, hell yes, I hope he keeps doing it. Oh, absolutely. And, like, I think the thing people miss when he said we beat the shit out of top 25 teams is like,
Starting point is 00:12:27 okay, yes, Nebraska was ranked when they beat the shit out of them. And he has beaten top 25 teams in previous stops, so it's not making it. stuff up but like yeah keep talking shit but coach like you talk like don't ever fucking punt always go for two always go for seven i mean always go for six and then go for two but like other than other than signetti um being being a little mild in a couple spots this went fine for indiana like sure it felt bad curtis rick didn't play great no he he looked a little because it didn't snow that's why i will tell you curtis worked a little he looked like the valedictorian of Mack High School is what he looked like, you know, and they're like,
Starting point is 00:13:08 that's the smartest guy from dumb, that's the smartest guy from dumb fuck false. That's what he looked like in the first quarter. He improved, he recovered, but he did not look up to the moment. And that is different than Riley Leonard, who 100% looked up to the moment, even though I know Riley Leonard is pretty limited as a quarterback. It doesn't matter. They need him to throw six yard passes. Guess what his average per completion was? 6.3 yards per pass. That's what he does. They don't really care. That's the difference. By the way, shouts out to Kurt Signetti for also talking shit, even while putting out the most cowardly punts imaginable. Like, yeah, we'll fuck get anyone up. We'll absolutely, we'll pit you in the face with the brick. That's an ethos. That's
Starting point is 00:13:51 an ethos. It doesn't have to be, it's consistent. We're so fucking badass. We'll give you the ball. I'm calling ball security right now. What are you going to do with the ball? You're going to score on us? Once again, I have invoked them before, but those Vandy students at the Florida game that one time who were standing in the back row just like coach clapping and going like, four more onside kicks.
Starting point is 00:14:12 We're back in this thing, boys. Love it. They almost were. They were. I think what all four playoff games had in common is that if you can step back from the like panic of, oh no, the 12th team playoff, oh no, everything is wrong. Like, you can pick almost any aspect who got in, the seating, the format, who gets buys, if we should have buys.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Like, there are people out there with strong beliefs on all of these things. But I think it's actually much simpler than that. During the regular season, we get, what, 60 college football games on average? Mm-hmm. And there is enough there that when you have clunkers, and there are a ton of high-profile clunkers, that you can sort of wash them away because you're like, well, over here, you know, I just saw like, I don't know, Arkansas play this amazing game. Did you?
Starting point is 00:15:08 Amazing. Intertake. How about Brian? Hypothetically. Hypothetically. I didn't say this year. There have been other years worth that happened. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:17 I'm sorry. That was just, that was, that was stimulus response. It was. It was. Yes. But there is enough. There is enough. the buffet that you don't care if like certain dishes are not that good. But when we when we distill
Starting point is 00:15:33 it down to it's the playoff and blah, blah, blah, and we don't have like 30 other games happening that we can sort of like move across. We are all stuck with the middle portion of Indiana, Notre Dame where nothing's happening. And I think it just makes us all very cranky because we're used to like, no, why is the frozen yogurt machine not working? I want sprinkles right now. I want sprinkles right now this sucks and also it's you know first edition of new thing so it's like um um i need it i need an opinion and you know greg mackleroy is also in the booth feeling that feeling as well dude do you want to know whose complexion turns sorry that was my stimulus response to gregg mackroy who by the way in the cold looks like he's been who looks like he's been dead
Starting point is 00:16:17 for three days it's awesome they looked like he it looks like they fished him out of a canal it did It's loytold silver macawoy. Moisturized, babe. My Christ. Greg's been living down south too long. He looked like they pulled him out of a bog. Yeah. They put him into a bog.
Starting point is 00:16:36 I like you, Greg, and I've looked really awful on camera before. So I feel like I can say these two things, okay? We got to work on the moisturizing. Get some ponds cold cream. Listen, what your grandmother used still works best in this case, get you some ponds cold cream. After you wash your face in the shower, You're washing your face in the shower, right, Greg?
Starting point is 00:16:54 After you wash your face in the shower, put the cold cream on, leave it on for the remainder of your shower. Wash it off at the end. You're great. Also, Sean McDonough, in that same weather, in that same temperature. Was fine. Shown McDonough looked like the Eternals. I've been here forever. I am happiest at European room temperature, which in my mind is 28 degrees.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Yeah, he looked ecstatic. Like the mood everyone had reminded me exactly, today specifically, of a four o'clock NFL slot when the only choices are, let's say, Falcons, Broncos, and Jets Bears. And everyone's just like, fuck this, this sucks. I hate all these days. The NFL is bad now. They got to change football in some way. I don't know. Make touchdowns worth nine or something.
Starting point is 00:17:46 It's the exact same, like, prisoner of the moment where you're like, no. No, these are all so bad. I don't think teams should play more than like three games a year. Ryan, you made an excellent point earlier tonight that I think it was you that we can also, we don't even have to leave the sport to find this. This happens in the first round of FCS playoffs every year. Oh, yeah. Like, I mean, so I looked this up earlier because, you know, everyone is complaining about a handful of blowouts.
Starting point is 00:18:14 The average score of college football playoff games in the four-team era was 40 to 21. including like some of the biggest blowouts we can remember. Yeah, but BCS games were never like this, were they? To the funny title games. The average score of BCS championships when there was no playoff, when we literally just picked the two best teams or something close to that, that average score was 33 to 18. That was your perfect world of, I mean,
Starting point is 00:18:46 return. Do you want a postseason or not? Because I'm fine if we say, fuck all this shit and just have bowls. I'm great with that. That is my one conservative opinion. So come on aboard. Come on the bowl train with me. If you want any sort of a playoff, you're going to have a whole lot of blowouts. Look at the app. Look at the first round of any FCS D2D3. Hey, Jason, I have a question. I have a question. But if we had settled this playoff with polls with the BCS system, wouldn't it have been totally and completely different?
Starting point is 00:19:15 Like the final, like whatever. I'm sorry. I'm being an idiot. I'm sorry. Yeah, Jason, by the way, I think it's very important. I don't know if you know this, but... The NCAA Division, I football championship subdivision, FCS, formerly known as division, IAAA... This is important information that I'm trying to tell you on Blue Sky. Sorry. Somebody told me tonight that the state line of I-40 between Tennessee and North Carolina
Starting point is 00:19:46 has a lot of rock slides. Did y'all know? Somebody tried to fucking explain FCS football. called Jason Kirk. I saw that she had a Harbinger, because that happened so early in the day. I was, I'm literally, I'm literally, I am still wearing my big sky conference shirt in celebration of my Montana State Bobcats. Jason, I had on the main TV, I had the FCS game at the time.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Jason, I don't know if you know this, but March Madness is actually not the only college basketball tournament. I have, you know, I happen to have sat in a newsroom. during the NIT selection show and noticed I don't know who it was that was covering it and watched the the traffic outshine March Madness itself I don't know who must have done that but yeah this is like explaining special teams to Roger Sherman God man man listen if it sounds like we're talking more about the internet than we are about the games y'all it's because we're fed the fuck up I think it's partly because did you see the games it's also it's also it's also not just
Starting point is 00:20:47 the internet like one of the strangest things about certainly SMU Penn State and Notre Dame, Indiana is how much the television commentary started to veer towards like, oh, this is fucking stupid. Why are we even doing?
Starting point is 00:21:04 And that was the part that really surprised me because essentially what they're telling you as a viewer, whether you're a fan of one team, the other team, or neither team is you wasted your time. This was a waste of time for you to be
Starting point is 00:21:20 here. It's not Indiana had this magical season and they ran into a Notre Dame team that is playing some of the best football that they have played in a decade. It's not Penn State finally put together like start to finish a pretty flawless plan and like unleashed their defense. It's it's it's these impostors don't belong here and it's a waste of time that they were and it doesn't say anything positive for anybody involved. The winner, the loser, the viewer, nobody. Like, hey, folks, you see this inferior product you're watching. Hey, you know, if we complain about it enough, maybe next year it'll be better because there'll be a four-loss team in here. Wouldn't that be a lot more fun? Like, a lot of people pointed out, imagine if this happened in March Madness. I mean, you can do it
Starting point is 00:22:06 in any other sport. Imagine the NFL, they're saying, let's get rid of the first round or whatever. But like March Madness, Delaware State makes its first March madness and however many decades or whatever. I haven't looked up Delaware State information. And the announcement. or spin the whole game shitting on Delaware State for being there. You just, you can't imagine that. And for whatever reason in this sport, it's like everything has to be a political campaign at all times. Nothing can ever just be celebrated. The NFL doesn't do this.
Starting point is 00:22:33 The NFL knows they have trash teams, but they're not like, they're not like, here come the fucking Cowboys again, wasting our time in the wild card round, farted out interceptions and fumbles. Hey, wouldn't it be so much better if the Chargers were here? Can this be our January show themes? Can we just, can we do this during January? Covering the NFL playoffs if they're college football. Maybe, maybe. Guys, I'm sorry, I know this is an unpopular opinion.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Who the fuck are the Bengals? Well, you're not going to have to worry about that with the playoffs. Never heard of them. Yeah, their quarterback is, their quarterback is very cool. They have the only quarterback who can get away with giving his offensive lineman katanas. It's the most ancient form of respect, Jayce. He is incredibly handsome. Did anybody else read that in White Goodman's voice from Dodgeball?
Starting point is 00:23:23 Honestly? Imagine Aaron Rogers doing this. It'd be like, oh, God. So if you don't, so if for those, for those who may not have seen it, I will briefly do the thing I hate, which is explaining. Joe Burrow gave all of his offensive linemen actual Japanese katanas that he had made for them. He got to, like, they got to pick them out. He went to, they're like, they have lore. He gave them like video game quality, sword.
Starting point is 00:23:48 lore, which is fucking sick. I'm not laughing at you. I'm laughing at the commenter who dropped in right there. Orlando Brown is getting killed with one of those, by the way. Right. So Orlando Brown is one of the linemen, when asked about it, said, yeah, it was cool. It, you know, it's the most ancient form of respect. And the minute he said that, I was like, holy fuck.
Starting point is 00:24:06 I just want to, like, go and immediately dab this dude up, give him a hug and be like, you are so dude. No dude has ever duded harder. Can I tell you, I don't want to rub poor salt and wounds here. once we knew that Ohio State's own Joe Burrow had given out katanas successfully we should have known Ohio State was going to win this oh no I'll tell you when I knew Ohio State was going to win it's when we all should have known Ohio State was going to win it's the most ancient form of respect
Starting point is 00:24:33 fuck yes it really is no babe it's it's it's when Clay picked in a sea yeah well like fucking clockwork that day walker oh mr. Travis who went Oh, and three today? The most reliable financial indicator of all. Thanks, Joe Biden. I know there were 11 Warriors guys who made a lot of money off this last year. If you were one of the people who was gambling all season, fading Clay Travis bets, please let us know how that went.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Quite well today. Let's see. So Notre Dame, Indiana, anything else there? Hey, great crowd. Great crowd. To that point, like, run this exact same Indiana season, this exact same way
Starting point is 00:25:19 the next season, right up to the same ending. I'd take it. What a fun fucking thing to watch. Oh, 100%. I know. I don't think, I'm not saying that any of you were disagreeing with that, but like, man,
Starting point is 00:25:33 I just, I don't want, I don't, and I think that they, I think that this might not make sense. I think the Indiana, by virtue of having this season, such an isolated incident by not being the result of a slow build but rather a spike and you know 18 players from jm u i wonder if indiana might have a better case than some other teams of us today um of of like hanging on to this as being special i hope they do i hope they do
Starting point is 00:26:06 like i hope this isn't cast away because this was fucking awesome one of the most bonkers things that sean mcdonough said on the broadcast was this hypothetical i like I can't, that was fucked up. I do too. He presented this hypothetical where Kurt Signetti is sitting at home, weighing job offers last, last season, last off season. And he says, he looks at Indiana and their schedule. And he's like, well, I can win 11 games there. Motherfucker, nobody ever has.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Nobody for all the- Literally ever. Hey, guess when that team started playing football? For all the pissing and moaning about Indiana's, football schedule and I know their their non-conference wasn't what it was they started playing in 1880 fucking four like michigan's on this schedule Washington's on this schedule USC's on this schedule I understand these teams weren't good this year stop wasting our time with this bullshit you got no man though Sean McDonough's gonna hate
Starting point is 00:27:09 that's the thing that man's gonna hate I know I know yeah but usually he usually he hates smartly this was fucking dumb like he's one of my favorites that's uh it just was weird it was weird coming from him I do think they have a point all right
Starting point is 00:27:28 if a team loses to Ohio State by call it 23 plus points I don't think that team should be in the playoff and I think that makes me look down on that team's conference a little bit
Starting point is 00:27:44 I think any team from, say a team lost it by more, by more points than that to Ohio State, 25, call it 25 points. Say a team lost to Ohio State by 25 points. If anybody from that team's conference was like, oh, we want to get in the playoff, I'm like, did you see what you're, one of your best teams just did against Ohio State? Get the fuck out of here, Lane Kiffin. Boy, Lane, those dogs are relentless, aren't they? No, no, no, listen, I need you to, I need you to put a pin. in Lane. Okay, just put a pin in Lane, because we need to discuss
Starting point is 00:28:18 this man. No, no, he's fully kombucha. You don't want to part. You don't want to, he'll explode all over this. Need to discuss this man becoming the most hardcore live, laugh, love, emo poster. Can we talk about the brick just for a second? Because if you haven't been on Twitter, if you haven't been on Twitter tonight, you are seeing an
Starting point is 00:28:33 amazing sequence of events, which is Lane being gifted with one of those live, laugh, love, garden stones, that has a quote that's a quote that's a scribe to Buddha that is not a Buddhist say as far as I'm aware of on the on the brick but that's not the that's that's fine lane posting about it on Instagram go you know whatever lane puts this on Twitter and his entire mentions are him being dragged for not being Christ like or deserting Christ including sorry coach fake God though
Starting point is 00:29:05 it's for citing anyone besides Jesus including the greatest comment maybe in the history of the internet from an account called the lab of logic that has a heraldic symbol as its crest as its avatar. All right. So, of course, I see this and the lab of logic and I'm expecting a
Starting point is 00:29:25 mayhaps forsooth you kind of quote. You do realize. No, even better. No, this dude actually exceeded expectations. He really did throw me a curveball. Shouts out to this bot that said, so you're worshipping
Starting point is 00:29:41 Satan these days? Roll-tide, bitch. Yes! Yes! Bitch, how do you think he got Jonathan drafted? Where are you been? Bammer really has lost a step. But there was more lane posting. Absolutely more lane posting, besides posting a brick.
Starting point is 00:30:02 This is my favorite era of Lane, and it's not even close. Like, he's going to, I hate that he's inevitably going to go LinkedIn after this, because Instagram lane is the best lane. I mean, if he rolls up on our turf, he better pay his respects on our corner if he arrives on LinkedIn. Yeah, he has not tweeted about Tennessee, despite having something to say about both of the other non-autobids that lost and include, I think, let's see, at least Tennessee lost worse than one of the teams he was complaining about. SMU right in the neighborhood but I mean by Elaine's own rules
Starting point is 00:30:44 he should be bitching about Tennessee right now I wonder why he's not Greg Sakey's cut the power in his house right fucking I'm trying to The other three teams Can you imagine like Greg Sanky just like bitching at having to take his bowtie
Starting point is 00:31:02 long enough to put on his gilly suit Do you think he keeps it on under Yes You think he keeps it on under the cano? When he shimmies up Lane's drain pipe. Oh, that sounded sensual, and I'm sorry about it. Well, why is he doing? What's a Feinbaum for if he's got to do it himself?
Starting point is 00:31:18 Finebom's been real quiet today. Finebom's very skinny. He could fit into any air duct or whatever you need to get the chopped. Dude, Paul would be pick one for an air duct, yeah. He could just whisp right into it. Yeah, you want the most gollum-shaped person in your party to be in there. He's kind of gallum everything. He'd be shimmying through there like a greased eel.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Yeah. Fucking treat. the 12 seed in the playoff like the precious they'll tell you fucking what. You know what he wouldn't be doing? He wouldn't be doing some live, laugh, love-ass posting on Instagram and his stories. I can't wait until this expands to 18 teams
Starting point is 00:31:51 and the same fucking thing happens. And they were all of them deceived because SMU didn't play very well on Saturday. And when it's 18, Alabama will be the 19 that everyone talks about like they're one. I think my favorite complaint that I have seen is that this is all happening
Starting point is 00:32:07 because the seating is wrong. And we gave of Boise State and Arizona State the buys. Number one, why are we blaming Boise State and Arizona State for teams that have nothing to do with them? Typical bullies. Boise State. Yeah, those asshole teams that won. Boise State always ruling college football.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Number two. Classic bully state. All the favorites won at home and the seating is wrong? What's happening here? Oh my God. Hey, wait, wait, wait, Ryan, are you telling me that teams? that play home games, high-stakes home games, might have had, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:32:46 some kind of historical, albeit slight advantage. I haven't seen anyone complaining about, like, the order of the seating. And, like, I mean, yesterday at this point. I'm complaining about the order of the seating. We had to play goddamn Kaiju's. Why couldn't we play Clemson? I'm done. People have been complaining about, like, which teams made it in or whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:07 that's probably going to die down a little bit because all the complainers just saw you know like hey Bama you lost to a team that got smoked but like I do think there's something about the buys the way they work the auto bids for conference champs I don't see that sticking around
Starting point is 00:33:23 much longer because round two heading into round two undefeated Oregon who should have already claimed a national title by the way they should have already hung the banner and dared someone to come get it based on the 150 years of college football logic they should be waving a banner they should say fuck this whole tournament. At least a split title. At least this. I would prefer minimum.
Starting point is 00:33:41 I would love it if Oregon said, we're the champs and the rest of y'all can figure out who's sharing this title with us. If I got to pick, we would go back to the brief part of college football history where the coaches poll awarded their national championship before the bowl games and the AP awarded theirs after the bowl games and sometimes really stupid shit resulted. That would be whatever. That goes right along with the return to bowls thing. Do it. It's like in college basketball where there's regular season champ and a tournament champ. We'll just do that for all of college football. But like, Oregon, undefeated Oregon now has to beat Ohio State again after already having done that.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Meanwhile, two lost Texas gets to play in Arizona State that we still don't know why they're here. How in the world did they end up here? No one paid attention to them as of three weeks ago when they're here. They're here to fucking party, man. So Arizona State's here for it. But this sort of gets into like the whole impossible philosophy of the playoff, which is like, what is it supposed to do? is it supposed to reward teams? Is it supposed to highlight the best teams?
Starting point is 00:34:41 Is it supposed to protect the sanctity of the regular season? Is it supposed to make winning your conference meaningful? Like, nobody can sort of identify this is this sort of shared philosophy we have about what the playoffs should be. Because we've never fucking had it before. Because playoffs are heretical and blasts in the tennis sport. Everyone, I appreciate this debate, but I know the reason it's here and it comes down to one word. Do you know what it is? Do you know why the playoff is here?
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Starting point is 00:37:17 Around here we call him AJ. God. Or as Spencer calls him, Aja. Yeah, what's my gosh? Folks tune in and watch the Ashman. Why don't you just go Gus Johnson mode on him? I will go. He's a bad deed.
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Starting point is 00:38:46 Aston Jinkos. Yep. I believe you mean junkos. Acid Junkos. Assless Junkos. Ben State 38, SMU10, another game that is a referendum on everything about conferences you are unimpressed by. I enter the operating room. I see the man torn open on a table and I go, this is a failure.
Starting point is 00:39:12 That's what everybody's doing with this fucking payoff. I will say. You know what this is? Sorry, right? Kevin Jennings through some of the most unpleasant intersections I've ever seen today. Slanging. Slanging it. I think on the other side, Drew Aller, like, barely throwing the ball, moving the ball
Starting point is 00:39:33 at all through the air, I think he was just like, yeah, I'm just not, I see what's happening here and I'm just not going to participate. I'm just going to lay low. Yeah, I think it's not a good day for quarterbacks here. All right, so can I tell you how to bomb properly? Don't bomb like Indiana. I know, Indiana, awesome year. Congratulations. You rule. We love Kurtzignati. We love what you've done with the program. But this is how you fucking bomb. Somebody in the comments wants me to know the SMU has bad politics. Buddy, I have some news about literally every other team in the playoff.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Don't explain shit! Oh my God. In Texas? Wait, you're telling me something, an institution in Texas? Don't explain a fucking thing. We know the world is ruined. They're not actually Methodists. You guys took a moment of joy out of this.
Starting point is 00:40:16 And I'm here to gobble it back from you. We're having, listen, this world is a pile of fucking trash, devoid of hope, not worth saving. We're here to make jokes on top. with that pile of ashes get on our fucking level hold on let me take or you could just you could you know you could sit out and come back in four months when we're raising a million fucking dollars for refugees you fucking clowns did you know ACCC stands for atlantic coast convent oh oh sure the western name for that ocean you know money's not real you can't
Starting point is 00:40:50 actually convert it to gold or silver anymore you on the third floor hey this building's Pretty fucked up. Me on the 98th, feeling it collapsed. I know. I'll see you soon. I'm kissing Godzilla right now. I know these things are bad. It's the backyard.
Starting point is 00:41:09 It's the backyard video, wrestling video, where the dudes, my all-time favorite YouTube from like 2004, where the dudes in the pinhead shirt jumps off the roof and throws his buddy through a table. They're both lying on the ground, screaming and writhing in pain. And the camera man runs up, He goes, dude, are you okay? And then there's a pause.
Starting point is 00:41:31 There's more screaming. And he goes, okay, dude, what's wrong? Oh, boy. You, wow, I'm getting hanged. Us, first time, that's it. That's the whole mean. Serber, if you're going to be in the comments, you might as well get on the show, man.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Just come log in. Yeah, so yeah, Kevin Jennings. Let's talk about speaking. Hey, did you know Kevin Jennings throwing interceptions is bad? Yeah, frankly, it's fucking. I don't think you should have done that. Technically,
Starting point is 00:41:59 technically pick sixes count for the other team. I'm mad that he didn't let it go. I'm mad that he didn't let it fly because I felt like a good 5TD 7 interception game coming on. I thought this could have been. If you want to know my disappointment is that SMU didn't flop harder. Like Indiana came out and Signetti was like, yeah, lick my nuts. And then he punted. Lick my punts.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Yeah. That's what he did. it let like you know what ret lashley did ret lashley's like well we got here with crazy and shitty we're just going to keep rolling with crazy and shitty that's awesome that's fucking awesome SMU that's how you fail
Starting point is 00:42:37 that's the way to do it pens and everybody's still commenting in my thing thread that there's no such thing as as SEC threads to fans to know that I muted that immediately which is a great Jason you had a great idea earlier today for setting a kind of trap where you post bait and then just mute it and let
Starting point is 00:42:55 everybody crawl in. Now all we need to do is figure out a way to shut the door behind them and light it on fire. Oh, I tried, like, just announcing that I was doing that. I said basically like, I think I'm going to skeet that if you take away Notre Dame's 98-yard run, the rest of the box score is pretty even, and then mute the thread. I said, I said, I'm going to mute the thread. And then people showed up, you, um, like, this isn't in keeping with the spirit of dialogue. Let me try this in audio format. SMU has three losses just like Alabama, but they have 11 wins, so they're better. Yes, that's right.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Now, but you have to mute us live, so you just have to plug your ears and go la, la, la, la, la, la, for the rest of the show. Um, I will say this, Pence's defense is nasty as shit. Yeah. They are, they are, when they get, when, like, where's that been? I mean, it has been there. It's been good. It has been there in stretches. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:49 I think the problem is, where have I been? I think the problem is in a lot of games. Penn State's offense has not gotten their back as well. Like, it feels weird to say because it's not like the offense put up amazing numbers today. They were very good running the ball. But the defense scored enough to the SMU. Dude, they put up, the Penn State's defense did one of the weirdest things I've seen. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:15 If I'm going to ask you real quick, Ryan. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. How many first downs did SM you have? 15, let's say. 21. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:24 If you get over 20, I'm like, oh, you're moving the pole. Yeah, yeah. How many total yards did they have? If they had 21, I'm going to say 305. 253. What? They didn't. I know.
Starting point is 00:44:39 It doesn't make sense. No, it doesn't make any fucking sense at all. You guys want to see me guarantee. Oh, God. You guys want to see me guarantee Penn State and Natty? Yeah, sure. Do you think this makes what James Franklin does next even funnier? Like, either way.
Starting point is 00:44:57 I mean, can I point out something before it goes over the horizon? We forget that James Franklin went for it from his own 19 today. The Wolfman. Spencer, is that the only time that happened this game? No. Huh. James, I mean, James did his best to be on one, but SMU was like, watch an artist work. So for James Franklin's numerous decriers,
Starting point is 00:45:22 Does this, to what degree does this count as a big game win? Oh, I've already, I feel I have confidently answered this question. If they win, it wasn't a big game. Right, okay, yes. And that probably applies all the way through the national championship. Yeah, because they have Boise State next. They have Boise State next. So it'll just be like, oh, they're not even in power.
Starting point is 00:45:41 No, they should have won that. Yeah, should have won that. Yeah. Yeah. I will defend James Franklin going for it, I think, on 4th and 13 from the SMU side of the field, I think everyone recognized that the cold weather thing I think was
Starting point is 00:45:58 largely overrated to some extent, except for special teams. Punting. These punters were having a terrible fucking time. That had to feel awful. You're going to take a running start at a cinderball. Yes, it was like, all right, go ahead and kick this very wet soccer ball now with a barefoot. How fun. It wasn't
Starting point is 00:46:18 so like, you know, you had Jeremiah Smith from fucking Miami bombing all. all over the field, like, you know, just, like, looking like an NFL player. Meanwhile, big 10 punters were flubbing stuff. So it's very clear who and what this affects. Stop that. Sorry. Oh, I thought that was Spencer.
Starting point is 00:46:35 You're fine. You have the fart pass. He's got little kids. That's all right. It's true. Yeah. It's important to keep up that skill. That's like an eighth of your dialogue today.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Hey, Ryan, can we, can we tell the listeners what you did for your kid's birthday because I think it's fucking awesome. And I have a question about it that I meant to ask you earlier, but now I want to ask you here. This is a good unexpected digression, sure. Okay. So do you want me to set it up or do you want to set it up? No, no, you tell it. Okay, my youngest turned three today.
Starting point is 00:47:07 He really loves giraffes. He is like singularly focused on them as the thing he likes most. He has only asked Santa for one thing, giraffe toy. We've told him, you can ask Santa for more than one thing. He's like, okay, two giraffed. toys. And so I ordered from one of those, like, one of those basically like, hey, what if you're 28, but you still like to party costume websites?
Starting point is 00:47:34 I ordered a giraffe costume that is, A, was surprisingly cozy. It's basically like zippered pajamas with a headpiece on top of it that was a little heavier than I anticipated. And I'd spent most of the birthday party at our house with our family. while everyone else was just wearing normal clothes, just hanging out in this giraffe costume. So the question that I have here, and I don't know how,
Starting point is 00:48:02 I mean, obviously your child being your child, has a great deal of grounding in whimsy, right? I don't know how much of that whimsy necessarily crosses over into the fantastical. I guess what I'm saying is, do you think there's a chance that he thinks today was like the day he got his Hogwarts letter, as in the day he found out
Starting point is 00:48:23 his dad was really a giraffe? Unfortunately, I think the answer is no, because when I took it off, he didn't scream and yell at me. Okay, okay, that was going to be my next question. Yes, I was allowed to not wear the giraffe costume. That's what I was concerned about. Okay, good for him. We're able to separate that.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Although I do think it would be very funny if he, like, shrieked for, you know, not a year. I don't want to do that to you, but like every time he saw you without the giraffe suit, if you got mad. So unlike the ESPN family of networks, my three-year-old can handle change just fine. Greg Sanky demands that you dress up like a giraffe.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Hey, you hit behind your hands, and then you came back, and then you were gone again, and I don't think that's fair. Sean McDonnell's up there in the booth, like, you don't have my nose at all. It's right. It's right here.
Starting point is 00:49:11 What other lies have you told us about Indiana football? That's your thumb, fuck-o. He would say, Sean McDonough's got big using the word fuck-o vibes. I can't do a Boston accent. I'm not going to try, but he definitely does. All right, can we talk about Clemson, Texas? Yeah, yeah. Did something happen?
Starting point is 00:49:33 What is your interpretation of this game, Spencer? No, that Clemson has the worst fucking run defense that I didn't know was this bad. They're real, they're fucking awful. They're terrible. they're so bad this was a texas team that against georgia struggled to and i am going to paraphrase paul johnson legendary georgia tech football coach from a half-time rant that he went against his own team on which was this which was against georgia texas couldn't run the ball the length of my dick can you tell are we allowed to tell him what
Starting point is 00:50:11 the player said after that because that's a true story yeah there's a so he goes into paul goes in the locker room he screamed they had like what did they have the total at half time uh i think they had 70 yards it was something like that but he's like it's important to the punchline he goes like y'all can run the ball league of my dick and just enough to be audible in the back of the room one of the players goes coach got a 70 yard dick dude's rock yeah spencer are you saying it's my favorite paul johnson are you saying it's bad to give up uh six yards per carry if you're clemson it's really bad to give up two hundred and ninety two yards on the ground as a conference champion which is the reason that clemson
Starting point is 00:50:53 is here conference champion air quotes yeah everybody's like it's real bad for c c c look real bad yeah cc look real bad but let's talk about you ac c let's turn our attention to Miami must be so fucking pissed I don't know they didn't get a chance to get a embarrassment. All right, let me let me rephrase. Syracuse must be so fucking serious. Kyle McCourt's like let me out of Ohio State. Let me at him.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Like, no joke. Oh man, imagine Syracuse playing in the cold, though. Like, no joke. I can make a case that we should have just given these two sponsors to Syracuse and Georgia Tech. Just see what happens. Fuck. Let's do that. Shit, that's the live show. Let's do that for the entire live show. No matter what happens next.
Starting point is 00:51:40 So there be in every playoff just like one true wildcard team? Sure. Georgia Tech is the Joker. The SECs is South Carolina this year, without a doubt. Question, question, asked an answer. I don't know who the Big Ten, no, the Big Ten's is Michigan, actually. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:57 The Big Ten is absolutely Michigan. Yeah, yeah. The ACC's is, I'll give it to Syracuse over, Georgia Tech, but I can see an argument for either. And the Big 12 is any of them, any of them. The whole conference of the Joker. Except Oklahoma State. not Oklahoma State. They're not on.
Starting point is 00:52:16 I don't know. I thought they were pretty funny. Yeah. It's becoming clear and clearer to me, the more we do is this, that he's just the green goblin. Yeah, that's true. That's true.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Yeah. Which is something he would give to himself because it's illiterate. You know, I'm something of a Maserati myself. I'm something of a bad dude myself. But not bad like Hitler. Oh, I was picturing him talking to Hitler. the other kind of bad
Starting point is 00:52:48 um i do appreciate so i should wear a motorcycle jacket god what accent was that that was interesting i think i didn't want to like i will say this though the clemsons run defense um ass bad stank shit terrible but
Starting point is 00:53:03 uh kade clubnick kate clubnick was like a fucking gamer today because he was i feel bad because they announcers called him sensational at the start of the game and i thought that in the context of recent Clemson quarterbacks that was a real fucking stupid thing to say but no he bawled out no he was tough as shit today and he was pretty much all they had going for long stretches of this game and he made his receivers look really good um they
Starting point is 00:53:28 he was he was awesome like he's the only reason this game was even moderately interesting there was a point at the end where they really could have gotten it to i think it was 30 they could have gotten it to 31 24 Texas mounts an incredible goal on stand on the one yeah Yeah, like Texas's defense boned up and was ferocious on the one, and that's the reason that they managed to stretch us out and two. A pretty comfortable looking 3824, that was, I think on the curve of the day, scintillating in terms of... Yeah, thank you to commenter Sohan's face, did not have Cade Klobnik and Will Howard absolutely torching ass, but here we are. No, no, they were both fucking great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Yeah, they were great. So a lot of the times we don't do that and defeat enough and go, oh, man, they were really great. Kay Klubnick played a great fucking game. He needs a nickname. The claw. Wow. Oh, wait. No, no.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Pink pony. The pink pony. The pink pony club. Today we are all in the pink pony club, Nick. I call him Keta Nice because there's nothing mean about him. Wow. Have you been great at this? No.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Oh, that's straight off the dome. That's why you're on TV. I've been watching all those ketamine horse videos on TikTok. You've been studying this. You're just stupid enough to be on TV and we're not stupid enough. I've been studying the blade of my tone. Ew, oh, I feel bad about that. Yeah, Texas, Texas, by the way, Texas just, I don't know, man, they look, they look solid as fuck.
Starting point is 00:55:05 They did, and they look like a team that, like, is more than happy to let their defense win. 12.35 a.m. got our first fire Ryan Day comment. Now they're a two touchdown favorite in round two against the higher-seated team. I still haven't processed. Admittedly, I don't think it's going to happen for a variety of reasons. What happens if Texas makes it to the national championship and loses to Georgia for a third time in a year? That's funny as hell. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Oh, no, that's what I want it now. I want it. I wrote that down as my pick. And, uh, yeah. Especially if they do it, especially if Carson Beck doesn't play. and they do it with that little Hill Jack fire plug they've got. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Oh, based on Carson Bex discussing medical options with his family in Jacksonville? I don't think Carsonbeck's going to play. Are you talking to Dr. Spott-Jaman about your elbow? Do we want to talk for a minute about the announcements that have been made around that? Let's say, should we save it for the next round? Welcome to our production.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Yeah, let's save it for the next round. Anyway, if you want to know what we're talking about, look up what Georgia, go look up what Georgia's coaches have said about Carson this week. And now, which is good for him, Jesus. I think it's time to talk about the final game of the day. Why? Because there was an outcome that affects the tournament. All right. Hey, can we, I know that we're all, I think I should be the get to be the one to say it because it's my team.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Congratulations. It is, you know, you go a whole year and I, you know, I think about, I've got James Pierce on my heart. I get all these seniors and all the kids headed to the draft on my heart. But you go all year wondering, does my team have the heart of true posters? And I cannot imagine better teammate behavior in the nation of posters than setting Ryan Day up for this kind of success. This just proves it. Nobody talked ahead of time about Tennessee being willing to fall on their swords, their swords that they bought at the mall, in favor of what is objectively the most hilarious outcome for Ohio State, which is keeping Ryan Day around for another year. The good news.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Congratulations, boys. The good news is you beat Tennessee, Ryan Day. The bad news is you have to continue coaching the Ohio State Buckeyes. And, hey, there is, it's not just that they beat Tennessee. It's that they did it in such a way that there will be a not significant portion of the Ohio State fan base. It's like, why didn't we do any of that against Michigan? A lot of them were saying this during the game. Oh, yeah, that was all of them the whole time.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Yeah. And also now it's, say, round two, you lose, you lose. oh god we lost we lost to the best team you can't fire him he no he got you to the roast dude this is not a joke i still think he might quit and i wouldn't fucking blame him not if a good NFL go take it or maybe if it doesn't you're rich an NFL OC job that's fine god um not the Jets don't take that one the other we advise us besides clay the other thing nobody talked about ahead of time that really signaled how this was going to go was this game being played on the solstice Ohio State invoked some kind of Norse magic by putting an umlaut on the field.
Starting point is 00:58:44 They had two dots over the eye. I will be asking Greg Sankey to convene some kind of like crucible level tribunal on this, not because I want Ohio State to be punished for this, but because I want to see how to do it. I saw a goody big nut practicing witchcraft. How do you pronounce that Ohio with an umulat? Is it Ohio, Ohio, oh, oh, he, oh, oh, oh, oh. uh-huh can i set a couple boundary markers around two things that i think are going to be really irritating in the discourse that comes from this the first conversation that's going to be really
Starting point is 00:59:21 annoying about this game is around injuries offense is already tennessee's weaker side of the game and when they lose dylan sampson tante thornton squirrel white dasha bishop in one game you're going to have some catching up to do i can already see it being discussed weirdly because It's being either dismissed as an excuse or saying it's immaterial. And it's not an excuse and it's not an indictment, but it's somewhere in between West Rucker, who's a Tennessee beatwriter, made a really great point tonight. He says if Ohio State had lost its top running back
Starting point is 00:59:53 and it's number one and number three receivers, which Tennessee did tonight, it would still have Henderson, Egbuka, and a handful of other skill guys that every other program in this country would kill for. When Tennessee loses their top guys, it's not the same. Talking about how injuries affect a game, I think gets framed too often as like, oh, it's bad luck, we lost this game.
Starting point is 01:00:13 No, it's not. It's because Ohio State has depth for eons. You know, this is still a question of roster building, roster management. And it's, you know, I'm not saying it's not progress for this Tennessee team. But when people talk about the injuries, I think it's going to immediately get swept away as like, oh, you're saying it's lucky you lost this game. No, I'm saying Ohio State has like three football teams that can play behind the football team that's already playing.
Starting point is 01:00:36 It's not making excuses. It's saying look at Ohio State. state. Yeah, yeah, it's not talking about like, oh, we could have beat you guys and Dante Thornton was healthy. I don't know about that the way the defense was playing tonight. I don't think that's necessarily true, but they are, man, watching that in real life. I talked about that hit on Deshaun Bishop earlier. That's not even the one that hurt him. I can't believe he got up from that, but that's a, that's a big old mess of Kaiju's. The other thing, and then I'll get out of the way and let everybody else talk is, I hope everybody driving home down I-75,
Starting point is 01:01:09 tonight is not paying a micron of attention to everyone who made fun of them for going to Ohio for this game like what were they supposed to do not go like were you supposed to not have a fucking blast this season because it might not end the way you want 50% of the teams this season are going to play their last games they end in ways that they don't wish for and also you might also count ohio state they might have not wished for this game to end this way some of their fans the way they were talking so that's actually a majority i hope that it's the same thing as with indiana watching the scene this season has been incredibly special and i hope that everybody takes exactly what they want away from that and doesn't just like trash this whole thing
Starting point is 01:01:56 because you got a long ride home most seasons end with a long right home i hope you don't forget everything else i mean i think tennessee fans taking over a third or thereabout of the shoe like just say nothing of the touch tunes assaults yeah that was great like like what are you supposed to do not do that no have a ball have an absolute fucking ball yeah hell yeah i um this game was this reiterated for me that all this shit comes down to atmosphere if the people in the building care then it feels like a good game and like yeah even when the shit was 21 nothing for you know and then and then tennessee started putting things together it still felt like holy fuck this is the main event like um it it felt like two in
Starting point is 01:02:39 entire crowds battling for control of the game. And that is a very rare thing because, you know, with stadiums of the size, usually they're going to be 90% partisan. And at most neutral site games, it's like, okay, a bunch of rich people at the Super Bowl who don't actually care. This was a very, very rare thing where it was like two full crowds worth of people who really gave a shit. That and Ohio State playing like they have spent three weeks more pissed off than they
Starting point is 01:03:08 I've ever been in their entire lives. Like, their helmets were full of bees. Which they have good reason to be that mad. That was amazing. Yeah, like, Nico for the first quarter, it was like, my God, he cannot do, like, I don't mean he's not capable. I mean, he's not allowed to do anything. There is, I think there was a persistent feeling amongst some people that, because these
Starting point is 01:03:30 games were largely lopsided. The Clemson, Texas game is probably the exception until it wasn't, that these were bad games. This was bad football, and I hope people can understand that sometimes a blowout is a lot of fun to watch because you are getting to watch a death star at full operational capacity. That's what Ohio State was tonight. Like, this might have been start. They didn't play like that against Oregon, by the way. Start to finish in multiple phases of the game, especially in the trenches for a lot of it.
Starting point is 01:04:08 This was like, oh, this is what Ohio State supposed. This is what preseason Ohio State was supposed to look like. Like, not just because try to remember, it wasn't just that Ohio State was a trendy pick to win the national championship in the preseason. They were a reasonable pick on paper. They were also discussed as maybe the best college football team ever, maybe going to put on the field one of the best college football teams you've ever seen. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:34 They were put in conversation with 2019 LSU. Yes. Yes. And like, while a lot of this season, the Nebraska game, the Michigan game, obviously, even maybe the Oregon game, depending on how you feel about it the first time around, although it was a very entertaining game for sure, hasn't lived up to that billing. We got to see something pretty fucking close to it tonight. And if you're a Tennessee fan, I understand why you had a bad time. And I'm not going to criticize you for feeling bad about it. If you hate Ohio State for other reasons, I get that too. But just from a detain. attached, like, what did I watch perspective? You didn't watch a bad football game. You watched, like, somebody decided, like, oh, right, I can do this. Yeah, and, like, as of right now, in terms of who's going to win the title and all that, nothing that happened before matters.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Like, Ohio State played, I would say, two, two and a half bad games, right? As of right now, is there a single team you would rather play more? Oregon, Ohio State, whoever wins that is a title favorite. Yeah. Somebody brother to play lastimey. Can I give one? Can I give two more notes on atmosphere?
Starting point is 01:05:42 Mm-hmm. I don't know. I mean, I know they've worn them before. I don't know that I've ever watched a game with Ohio State where they wore those all scarlet unis. Those are sick. They should wear them again. One thing about the atmosphere on, on third down, where, and I was watching this on sky
Starting point is 01:05:57 camp, so it's really evident. They've got these little video boards scattered around the stadium above all, like, the tunnels that go into the concourses. And on third down, those just, like, flash blank red and it looks like World 1-4 and Super Mario brothers when you go into the dungeon for the
Starting point is 01:06:14 first time, right? And all I can think about is like it goes the third down for the first time and I was just like do do-dood-dood-dood-dood-d-d-d-d-d-d- And then we got fireballed and fell into the lava. Do-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d- Like to show you how hard
Starting point is 01:06:31 everybody went for this game in Ohio from the players on down. dude had a fuck dolly parton sweatshirt made for this game what no so if you wanted to know if they went if they went full will if they were going to go full millwall
Starting point is 01:06:49 for this game a dude had that made this is the only time anyone in the history of humanity has ever had this made there's only one of these and this guy made it for this game I wasn't upset before I'm upset now truly ruthless and bloodthirsty war is war I guess yeah war never
Starting point is 01:07:06 changes. It's so cool. Too far. That's a war crime. I see like six legit national title contenders. I see Boise State who hung with Oregon and has the Hysman runner up. And then I see Arizona State. It's so cool.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Right? Arizona State's here. That, that exactly there. That's three words about this postseason. Arizona State's here. This is awesome. There's no reason for them to be in the second round. But who cares?
Starting point is 01:07:35 But it's cool. Who cares? But it's great. Yeah. Also, if you want to know the answer to, I believe in a question we asked several weeks ago, hey, have you seen Will Howard have a good game? Yes. Boy, yeah, I was the one who, I'll put my hand up.
Starting point is 01:07:51 I was the one who said that, and I felt real fucking stupid tonight. There is such a thing as an indefensible pass, and I think I saw Will Howard throw about five of them. The best pass route running combination move I've seen. And he gets to throw into Jeremiah Smith? Are you fucking kidding me? That one where they are going, I believe, from on your television or on your screen in your mind, from west to east. Okay, they're going from left to right, and they are heading towards the Tennessee end zone, and it is a go route, and it is thrown. And Smith is up top, and he is running along the boundary, and he's running a go route.
Starting point is 01:08:32 And Howard laces it in there. first of all with a fucking deadly throw but smith runs the go route you get separation both through speed and through body position and when he puts up his arms the ball lands exactly the right time in the basket in his hands with the db in good position but it doesn't matter that was the coolest play i saw all night and all day that was that was chill inducing that was awesome old miss would it got fucking pasted by this. Oh, wait, wait, one more thing because this is not a complaint and it went in
Starting point is 01:09:08 both directions. Jesus, fucking Christ, those ACCC refs. Hell yeah. I was talking halfway through. I think we were like eight minutes into the game when I texted front of the program Ramsey and I was like, congrats on the Natty dude.
Starting point is 01:09:25 And we just kept talking for a few minutes. And then at one point I was like, you know, I had wondered this season if all the turnover we've seen in the officiating ranks would mean that we would see shifts in the different personalities that we've come to associate with an ACC crew with a Big 10 crew with a Big 12 crew Nope thanks ACC so I hadn't thought about this until right now but are Pac-12 roughs just like roaming I think I think a lot of them are in the big 12 right now actually oh that ain't good
Starting point is 01:09:54 that oh yikes yeah you don't want you don't want them going inland the big let's let's be honester the big 12 is the pack 12 yeah okay from a sieve perspective though if we've got them in the pack 12 we've got them pinned in against the coast and there's only so far they can get to the rest of us yeah and now they're inland yeah they're everywhere yikes pack 12 reps are just wandering the country one like roaming into apartment fires and pointing to dead ends and fire escapes and being like head that way yeah this is not a specific complaint about the game because there were dumb shit calls in both directions but thank you a ccc refs for making sure that we remember there are three players in this game.
Starting point is 01:10:34 Don't you fucking forget it. This is my moment. Well, you know, unfortunately we have to tear down the whole playoff because the four games didn't go the way we want on them to. It's a disaster. Is it too late to put Bama in? Oh, no, wait. Shit, sorry, because Tennessee's got three losses now but still beat Bama. Yeah, unfortunately.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Oh, Bama, you lost to Ohio State. Yikes. Better than losing Oklahoma. I would have posted about that of my Instagram stories, but I'm too busy telling people that I love too much. And that I'm an empath. I can't believe this is what happens. Hey, kids, Hindu Lane Kiffin here.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Hey, girl, what that body shava do. You're going to tell you that South Carolina should have been in the playoffs. You put the ass in Zorro Astor. I did not think this is how it was going to go when he got an age-appropriate girlfriend, friend but my god what a turn i wish i do wish NFL coaches did this i wish like during the wildcard round you'd see i think we oh sorry belichick's not an NFL coach anymore i was gonna say i think that might be in play if you remember what NFL assistant coaches do they snort rails on camera and be like this one's for you Sharon that's only in Miami okay i never learned to and probably
Starting point is 01:11:52 adenapolis no raiders that guy was oh right yeah that's that's Miami in spirit this one's for you I think as soon as, like, the Buccaneers get eliminated, I'm just going to be posting about, like, there should have been more NFC South to be beaten up from the brutal NFC South schedule. That's why they were eight and nine or whatever. All right. We do have one very good point from Carlos Danger in the comments, and I don't think anybody can deny this. I do not think that they should have been in, but in the abstract, yes, Notre Dame Housing Bama would have been incredible. Yeah. Yeah. It's got to happen at some point, I guess.
Starting point is 01:12:26 North Dakota State That's what we forgot My choice for catch of the day was Bryce Lance Trey's little brother with the stab in the corner that ended up being the decisive touchdown in the
Starting point is 01:12:41 Kirchner and I have used FCS Iron Bowl as sort of a way to explain South Dakota State North Dakota State but it's above that now because South Dakota State is also Bama this was honestly a game of the year contender
Starting point is 01:12:55 but North Dakota State the long-time dynasty against Undefeated Montana State FCS title game is it's absolutely perfect no shade to the Jackrabbits they'll two straight titles
Starting point is 01:13:08 you're fine It's really big of them to overcome this and put together a good title game after so many teams got blown out in the first round and also hey the Gators that's right
Starting point is 01:13:21 338 over two lane motherfucker chomp chomp bitch did Tulane have their starting quarterback no he was disappeared in the portal he's away he went away and he's never coming back doesn't matter matter okay can i talk hey can i say something serious though for one sec yeah dude i said that i'm claiming i'm cashing in right points right now because those kids in orange and blue were making catches and making tackles and running over to the sideline and hugging billy napier's neck dude they love that guy you got to hang on to him for a minute dude
Starting point is 01:13:53 They played, they did play their asses off for him. Was it 9-0 for, was it only 9-0 for a long period in this game? Trace Mac, baby, it's the Trace Mac game. I'm serious, man. That's a team that's playing like they love each other. And you cannot put like, you can't buy that. You can't fake it.
Starting point is 01:14:10 You can't manufacture it. They, like, you have something there. I hate it, but you have something there. I want you to remember this when the preseason rankings come out. You're like, Florida's 14. What the fuck's happening? Oh, I'm fine. I love when that happens, because that means we're maybe down at 23 where we belong and not being perceived.
Starting point is 01:14:28 We'll be neighbors this year. It's going to be 13. Yeah. Yeah. Let's get Gasparall. Hey, do you guys want to get some Gasparilla Bowl champs merch? There's into sick. There's pirate maps in the zone.
Starting point is 01:14:40 Did you see the pirate? Yeah. That was a great idea. Did you see that weird lost Mumford Sun pirate they had? I'm telling you. I'm pretty sure he was a ginger. Poly amorous Tampa Bartender. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:53 You could just say Tampa bartender, man. I think I said that guy had typed Militon Agnostic and do at least three dating apps this year, but now I think it might be five. Ohio 30, Jacksonville State 27. Yeah, the other bowls are happening. It's true. Yeah, it's so weird.
Starting point is 01:15:09 It's like, okay, the first round of the playoff happens. Up next, Coastal Carolina, UTSA. That's right. That's right. What the hell is happening? You could wake up at 11 a.m. After you've listened to all of this and gotten 10 hours sleep, be like, oh, fuck, I'm late for work,
Starting point is 01:15:26 but I could just stay home and watch the Myrtle Beach Bowl. It's Christmas week. Hey, boss, fuck off. I got to watch the Myrtle Beach Bowl. God. Well, hey, there's another. You're drinking at 11 a.m.? Hell yeah, I am.
Starting point is 01:15:42 Coastal Carolina is playing football. They must be playing something pretty good. Nope. No, hell no. They're both six and six. All right. one in the morning there's 553 of you left in this room if you're in this room you're one of our soldiers right and i'm about to we're about to arm you guys with some arguments to go out
Starting point is 01:16:03 into the world as you spread the good news because here is another argument for uh jason got me thinking about it earlier talking about the atmospheres of these games have you guys i don't know if you guys have ever been to a bowl atmosphere like they're fine it's fun to go two but they most mostly like as an in stadium experience like they suck right they've got half the seats are taken up yeah yeah it's well because they're for the most part they're missing students right they're missing what makes this great i i'm gonna fight like i'm with with all the great capacity of power that i have i would fight tooth and fucking nail if i were a tv person for keeping and expanding
Starting point is 01:16:48 the number of on-campus games that we have for these playoffs because you are not going to not at the national title game you are not going to get this atmosphere that you had at any of these games anywhere else yeah this is the entire rest of this post season which is a really really the real reason to treasure today to treasure today and yesterday and this weekend because you are not going to see anything like what you saw in Columbus in Happy Valley. You don't get to see that for the rest of the season because like bowls as bowls off the field into the stands like as an ambience product. They're bad.
Starting point is 01:17:27 And like at this point, you know, fans, uh, all of them have to travel now. Yeah. So like it's, you know, by round three, we're asking a lot of these people. Um, I, I, I really think there is a future you're aware, um, only the title game is a, is a neutral site. Ideally the Rose Bowl. Ideally the Rose Bowl. It's where it belongs. It's where it started. It's where it should remain forever. Um, but I, I, I think there's a chance. I didn't think this before, but, um, it, I kind of had the sense that once TV caught a glimpse of, uh, and you know, we saw it in lower levels all along, um, but once TV caught a glimpse of this, how in the world do you go from those drone shots to Tennessee, Ohio?
Starting point is 01:18:12 state in mostly red and also largely orange how do you go from that to uh you know hey hey oh uh welcome to the fiesta oh everybody it's the echoing confines of the jerry dome which isn't even fun when the cowboys play in it have fun the cotton bowls after the rose bowl for some reason that's unfucking natural the only the only tweak i would make is i would like do away with seating in the first rat like i don't care eight nine no this is not important to me i would make the first round entirely regional because it's the one where you have the least heads up about travel and like part of why tennessee fans could show up in big numbers to classes because it's accessible that was not true like i mean fucking craig james on his courtesy shuttle trying to get to the
Starting point is 01:19:00 smith game an hour late outstanding i so are we so we're saying uh clemson tennessee yes yes i would have yeah i would have i would have changed these games i would have tried to make it so you don't get rematches, but I would, let's say I would have done Penn State, Indiana, Notre Dame Ohio State, Texas SMU, and Clemson, Tennessee. That would have been my first round. And then after that, seat it such that it's still, you know, after that it's like, yeah, you got to travel to whoever's next in your bracket. But just for this round, I would say, like, maximize the opportunity for fans to get to these games in person and participate in it in this way. And the kids and the teams for travel too, like this is also a sneaky opportunity if you really
Starting point is 01:19:50 want to be diabolical and snake some points back about how, you know, finals are over and the next semester has already started by the time the playoffs are going to be concluded. But these are still student athletes. If you want to claw back like three or four of those believability points, yeah, make get regional i i really love that and also let's get rid of conference championships because we could just do them within the bracket itself if we did this way because uh because no one cares no one cares better yeah i mean they watched one or two of them but like when lane's right he's right do you know where people cared about them when they were on camp they cared about all the on campus
Starting point is 01:20:29 ones yeah like they cared they cared about the sunbelt championship they cared about the mountain west championship so on it's i sort of think the reason georgia texas got the big tv number is the novelty of texas and the cc championship like like you know yeah and like probably like can they get revenge was a little bit of it too there's that and there's also the answer was no it's two playoff quality teams it was basically a playoff game you know but like yeah here's a fun suggestion from the comments by team should draft their opponents make a show out of it yes we think you're bitches we want No, like, you guys are politic in this whole time to get in these games. Do it directly.
Starting point is 01:21:09 That leads to a question I have, a predictive question. You all know coaches a lot better than I do. I don't talk to real people in the real world. Who is the coach who after this week is going to be like, oh, I'm mad that we had the buy because this team's, now this team's all fired up and they're operating on all cylinders and we've stayed home happy and soft and we're not ready to go. It's going to be Kenny Dillingham. am weirdly, but he's going to be wrong about it.
Starting point is 01:21:37 Kirby's going to bitch about it. Oh, shit. I forgot about Kirby. Never mind. I hate it because we had to skip a week. We had a skip week. There's another home game somebody else got that we didn't get. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:49 Oh, my God. I hate it for these kids who didn't get to play one more game in front of them. I'm having to talk to Carson Beck and he's all the way down in Jacksonville. My voice is having to travel. I haven't talked to Brent Key in a month. We got these beautiful. pledges that nobody gets to see now because you've got to go to Happy Valley
Starting point is 01:22:08 instead. I miss this big shoulders. Of course, Notre Dame got to get a whole bunch of exercise last week and we didn't get any. Sometimes I open my window it's pointed in direction of Atlanta and I just yell at Brent, can you hear me, can you hear me? And somewhere out there beneath the pale moonlight
Starting point is 01:22:24 I hope he's doing the same. An American Tale Fival goes SEC East. Is he Lindneronstat or Peebo Brayson? Oh, he's 100% Linderonstead. Right, yeah, he's Linda Ronstadt in the hair. Which mouse is he, though? Ooh, hmm.
Starting point is 01:22:40 Which one's, which one's Fival? Fival's dressing, so that, no, Fival can dress. That's not Kirby. Wow, dang. I think he's like the old country, the Nana from the old country. I don't care about the metaphor. He's that one mouse with the babushka. I don't care about the metaphorical Eastern European Jewish diaspora in an animated form.
Starting point is 01:22:57 I don't. Y'all, y'all think I care about that. Dog blues, more like dog bitch. Yeah. The babushka is. the visor of the eastern block many people don't know this we're just out here wishing on the same five stars good night everybody good night

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