Shutdown Fullcast - Fullcast After Dark: SECOND ANNUAL F*CK OH*O WEEK

Episode Date: November 27, 2022

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It's a robot anime about a half-sunkin battleship. And a town full of uncles determined to find it. It's the original Mardi Gras with mecks. What is a Mek but a Mardi Gras float with missiles? It's true, with legs instead of wheels. That's right. What is a mech but a really big? big truck. That's a crew, isn't it? A mex just a crew. It's just an F3Cab. It's a

F350. Hey, this reminds me of another question I had. Yeah. Did everybody see the trailer for the Willow series that's going to be appearing on Disney Plus? The Willows, yes, I have seen the trailer for the Willow series. Has anybody else attempted to reimagine that entire series if we set it in Philly? Will there's a baby down in the water Willa fella If you have any kind of Pennsylvania accent

Please call the full cast voice bell line And say the words Warwick Davis Just want to hear it And Lucasfilm Thank you That's all We are We got 732 right now

As everybody knows We do not usually start Until we hit the thousand And we're not going to break that tonight, are we? They're all still at the Tennessee Vandy game. Oh, Trips 777, let's see. It's fucking partying. Big Sky's here.

I don't know why we're waiting on anybody else. Shout out to our usual grownups, the Southland Conference, Samford, and the Big Sky. And Joe. Hi, Joel. And Joel. No grown-er-ass man than Joel. Those four are responsible.

They're the chaperones. If anything goes wrong. Joel roots for an undefeated team, and you don't. Joel can say whatever the shit he wants. That's right. Hey, I don't mean to alarm anybody, but Texas Tech is taking Oklahoma to overtime. Honestly, good for Oklahoma. Oh, that's so much meaner.

It's like, what is that, two six and six teams? Yeah. Yes, but very different six and six teams. Oh, not yet. One of them will soon be six and six. One is a six ascendant and one is Oklahoma. Yeah, Texas Tech had a harder schedule. Texas Tech played Houston and NC State out of conference.

God, who's got it? Listen. Oklahoma played Nebraska and U-TEP. I have a lot of questions about anybody who scheduled, like, any year. I'm trying to think of the last year when it might have been even an acceptable idea to schedule NC State out of conference. They've been at this for a while. Anyway, what did you guys do today? Oh, you know, just hung out, enjoyed myself, watched a lot of good rivalry games. Played some video games, bought some Def Leppard T-shirts.

Yeah, you know, watched. I watched the Michigan, Ohio State game. Oh, God. Wait till we start the show before you do. We're over a thousand, so. We're over a thousand. We're going to get emails. I'm going to hit it.

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She's so mad. This is Rivalry Week. Try to say it yourself. Everybody say it. Everybody say it once to themselves. Rivalry Week. Rivalry Week. Rivalry week.

If you say Rivalry, it's much easier. River. Rivalry week. Rivalry week. Rivalry week. Rival. It's really hard. It's very, very difficult.

to say Rivalry Week. So yeah, you know, just wondering, did anything happen today? It just seemed like a pretty chill day overall, you know, relaxing, watching some of the finest rivalry games and all of college football unfold before you. I wanted to start with Jason. Do you see anything cool today? Yeah, Michigan kicked the shit out of Ohio State. That's right!

And not only did Michigan, once again, by the way, two years in a row, it's been three years since Ohio State has beaten Michigan. Keep going. 17 years. Not only did, it's been 600,000 years since Ohio State has done a goddamn thing on the football field against anyone. Not only did last year, Michigan beat Ohio State in the most Michigan way by running the ball down their ugly throats all day long.

This year, Michigan beat Ohio State in the most Ohio State way by gleefully sprinting untouched up and down the football field as if defense has not been. unlocked yet. Spent seven years establishing the run and then just decided we didn't need it anymore. We is in my alma mater the University of Michigan. This is like if the cask of a Montyado was a Yeti

cooler. You went to the Kenesaw extension of the University of Michigan. I live in Epcot Orlando, but yes, there is one down here. Yes. This was an okidote from the start because, yeah, seven years establishing the run.

Seven long years establishing the run. Seven long years establishing the run and ooh if all of that talked before the game about Ohio State being a finesse team didn't just get under their little scaly skins all right just didn't get under their nails and into their system if it didn't irritate them so they were like

well we're first big strong but a big manbo a lot of bad play Spencer do you think you contributed to this do you think as a person who called out Ohio State for being a team that's not as tough as Michigan you made them feel they had to act tough and then fell

for the entire plan all along. I have three words. You absolute robs. Robs! Suckers for every scam that America puts on a hook and bates in front of you. You've been falling for it for over 100 years.

The whole state, but especially Ohio State. Urban Meyer, Woody Hayes, the forward pass, you fell for it all. Every last one of them. And this time, you had to bow up and be like, well, we're going to be tough.

Like J.J. McCarthy isn't a five-star recruit who can throw the ball 70 yards down the field to dudes named Cornelius and Colson. To wide open Cornelius's. These are like Sherman Antitrust Act names. That would infuriate. Oh, wow. Doug, we better beep out what I just said. Threaten my dog again.

If Ohio State fans heard that, they'd just melt into a puddle of tears. So it's a good thing. I'm right here. I'm right here, and I am being strong. That's your job, though. That is my job. Every hook, a worm. Every worm of fish, every fish of Buckeye.

Spencer, do you want them to suck those hooks in? I set these hooks in because in our Channel 6th newsletter on November 15th, I said y'all don't like the lumber. And you don't, and that's fine, because Ohio State's a finesse team, and you should score like 45 to 52. points a game and that's how you should win football games you shouldn't want to like knuck up with michigan you shouldn't play that game but you couldn't turn it down you couldn't someone was benched 315 in the gym and even though you haven't touched that like 300 mark for four years you were like

no bro i got this no don't take any weights off i'll do reps with that so you went to golds and tore your peck that's what happened i have to speak a language they'll understand yeah So I have to say it slower. I really should say it slower. But no, you fell for every cheap trick in the book. You fell for a converted linebacker, I believe, throwing a trick-play pass on third and short because we've got to stop the run. Speaking of third and short, how tall is that linebacker? Oh, he was not.

I don't know. Because, like, you know, when Tebow threw a jump pass, it looked kind of jaunty. this kid looked like he was throwing a jump pass because he needed to jump to see over the pads of the players in front of him, which just made it funnier. He might have. Everybody on that team's huge. They're all huge.

But point being, in the first half, you got completely okey-doked. So then what happened in the second half? You got gapped out. You gave up an 85-yard run to a running back with one fucking hand. Spencer, I user Eric, points out that he did have two feet, the running back. Valid, valid point.

I give the people credit when they deserve it. He had two feet. But then you got gapped out by the run game and couldn't, Ryan Day, how do you have that much talent and you don't know what to do on third and three? Don't know what to do. Whole playbook's open and you can't grab one single decent page out of it. Not one.

It's wild to me. Throw it to Marvin Harrison. If he's not open, throw it to Marvin Harrison Jr. again if he's in the goddamn tunnel throw it to Marvin harrison junior again it should be that easy run the touchdown play you have better players dare them to play one-on-one with the guys who aren't as good get arrogant the lack of arrogance is insane to me because that's all i hear from ohio state fans is how you should be more respected how your program should do more you have like 5,000 first round picks.

Ari Wasserman pointed out on Twitter that you guys have like 10 more five-star recruits than Michigan does. Where were any of them in the fourth quarter? Getting trampled by a guy with one hand. Who wasn't even the starting running

back. At home, you have that big stupid flagpole. And you invite everyone to come in and look at your teeny little fascist auditorium that you call a stadium. and your sad sweatshirts and your absolute bullshit traditions and you embarrass yourselves i get to say all of this because none of you none of you none of you believe to me none of

you're not even fun to go back and forth with you're just dull you're duller to want respect Go get thrown out of a 24-hour fitness again. You can't. It's always open. How could they throw you out? We'll see that's a problem. You throw them out. They go to the one across town.

They go to Planet Fitness. They set off the lunk alarm. They get thrown out again. They sit in the car and they're like, I'm thinking about Debbie. I shouldn't have screwed that up. Hey, listen, Debbie was very kind to move her. car for us in Ann Arbor last year.

We can't say anything bad about Debbie. Is Debbie code for defense? Is that what that means? Debbie, DB, ah. Spencer, J.J. McCarthy threw three touchdowns today. Mm-hmm. There are two other, there are two other opponents on Michigan's schedule this year, against whom he's done that.

Do you know who they are? Oh, I don't know, but the answer is hilarious. It's Hawaii and Airman. Indiana. You're not as good as Hawaii as India-I-E. You're not. Absolutely embarrassing. Do you know what's more embarrassing?

They want to fire Ryan Day. Ryan Day has lost one game this year. It is one. And it's the one that snaps their dim little brains in half. So this is, I will argue, the one way in which Ohio State and Michigan fans are not different. when you lose the game and when you do it in a way that feels like a tactical failure, you are immediately the dumbest and worst coach in the world. This is exactly how Michigan fans used to talk about Jim Harbaugh.

Didn't matter how good of a year you had before that. If you came into the game and you got your pants pulled down, you were a dumb piece of shit who needed to be gone yesterday. You needed to be fired. Didn't matter what your record was. It gets even better because that's how Ohio State fans talked about Jim Harbaugh. Sure. This is not the only rivalry like this, but it is one of a very select few.

It can drive people to the most, the furthest edge of reality possible. Absolutely unhinged. To listen to Michigan fans tell it this person has a 13 IQ. Cannot open doors properly. Like, winning games. When Brady Hoke lost this game, they were like, someone go get Brady and tell him very slowly the game is over and put a coat on him. That's what they did.

Do not give him a burrito that has not been pre-cut. He will die. He will die. He will try to swallow it like a python and die. Michigan entered the year with three plays of 60 yards or more all year long, none of 70 or more, despite getting to play Hawaii, Yukon, Colorado State. Indiana, Nebraska, Rutgers, just a bludgeoning brutal murderer's row of opponents. Today they had two 70-yard runs alone, plus three passes of 40 yards or more, I recall. It might have been more I lost count, but basically Michigan had almost an entire season's worth of big plays

against the number two team in college football as of this morning. Y'all made Jim Harbaugh look smart. Don't do that. It is, it is stunning. Like, if there is one thing that is truly, like, what the fuck stunning, it's Ohio State scoring three points in the second half. Yeah, three. And those three points coming midway through the fourth quarter.

Noah Ruggles out there holding down the earth for y'all. Yes. If it had been up to Noah Ruggles, if you'd given me 11 Noah Ruggles, damn it. You would have lost worse, because he's not as heavy, and it would have been bad. But heart-wise, if you give me 11 knowing ruggles, that would have been something. And this is the thing. I don't think it's on the players. I don't.

They've got awesome players. It's just, when it comes to Michigan, it doesn't fit. And I can't tell you, I can't tell you to make, like, wholesale changes on the coaching staff because you're so much better than everyone else in your conference. But for the past two years, when it comes to this game, it's a skill issue. I don't even know what that skill is, beating Michigan. There, that's the skill. It's, part of it is this.

When you make this game, the game, such a central part of your identity, you don't get to do what C.J. Stroud tried to do, and I understand it, and it's not even illogical, but you don't get to say one game doesn't define a team. You said it does. you said it defines an entire sport, an entire year. Mm-hmm. So unfortunately, per the terms of the contract that you wrote, this defines Ohio State for the year.

It just does. You called it. You called it the game. You did. You hand out special little pants for this game. Little metal pants. That's what you get. And don't tell me it's not special, because I know you don't hand those out for fucking Rutgers.

Sit there in your little gold pants. You should get a cummer bun for Rutgers. Your little gold hot press sandwich. That's what you get for playing Rutgers. It's delicious. I thought you were going to say, your little gold hot shorts. Yeah.

So don't tell me that. I know it hurts. I don't even have to like, I don't even have to make shit up to get you all pissed about this. Because you just have to look at the stats. You let, you let J.J. McCarthy drop. bombs on you he meditates that probably makes you mad too

that shit's bullshit nerd nerd nerd you uh as albert brier pointed out um why i stay lost to a bunch of nerds they hate that they hate that more than anything in the world they also told you that that's also the terms of this it's very clear everyone understand it's nerds versus jocks yeah it's just yeah you let people celebrate around by the nerds You know how mad it makes y'all that these these dudes went out and celebrated at a hockey game afterwards? That's what they did. They rolled up on the ice at the Michigan hockey game and did belly slides. Oh, belly slides so playful.

Now I've got to look up something. They're more Midwestern than you. They're more Midwestern than you. Damn. Yeah. That's right. God, the blue jackets suck. God, the blue jackets suck so bad.

Oh, now you're cutting deep. Now, well, listen, I'm not even going to go there. Worst, oh, my God. Already, already at the fucking basement of the metropolitan. Behind the flyers who suck. Oh, holy shit. Oh, God. You're behind Philly?

Yeah. Oh. In hockey? 15 points. Tied with the senators who are the definition of sucks. Sorry, didn't mean for the hockey discourse here. And there's everything you blew by losing this game, which was, yes, an easy bid to the Big Ten championship game, which would have made you conference champions.

Just would have gotten opened up by Purdue. Michigan spared you that. That's right. Your annual humiliation by a random Big Ten West team that has zero five stars ever. And you saved you from the Aiden O'Connell career game where he throws for 700 yards of your secondary. I have a question for Holly and Spencer Which of you was more ungovernable At the end of this game

Absolutely Spencer It wasn't close Okay Yeah Absolutely Is this a good time? He doesn't even watch the games I watched one today

It's pretty good Yeah Go on Holly what were you going to say? never mind. No, I really want to know now. I will tell you after the show. Oh, good. It'll be funnier than.

Okay. I appreciate that. Yeah. Exclusive content. No, Spencer, I mean, I'll tell Ryan. Yeah. Go hope that I get cancer online. Guess what?

It won't undo the fact that you got housed in your house. That's it. Well, it's also, I'm pretty sure, I have to look this up. I'm pretty sure it's an Ohio State hospital that is currently crumbling. because they it's that oncology center because they put an oncology center on that was too thick no no no no it's fine it's fine ryan they said it's fine so it must be fine the shirt that says my oncology center is sinking into the hospital answers a lot of questions asked by my shirt that says my hospital is not falling into the oncology

and ohio state spokesman has said listen it's just one concrete column All the other ones are fine. With 20 floors above it. I got to tell you. The 11 others are doing great. I don't really want to go to the hospital. That has one cracked concrete column. Did you see the 11 others, though?

If I got on a plane and one of the passenger windows was smashed down and taped up with a plastic bag, I wouldn't be like, well, the others are fine. Yeah, but look at those other. Hey, those are the 11 warriors right there. 11 great windows. 10. damn they were probably that concrete was probably mixed in michigan in case you haven't noticed ohio state is the team it's funniest to be mean to uh but there's a close second i would argue there are many many reasons speak speak with okay go ahead you don't you know where i'm going

i just wanted to pause and tell the ohio state fan who said i had a gaping vagina that his father seems to find it quite snug. There you go. I'll tell you what's gaping is that Ohio State defense. That's right. Oh, that's a big ho in your defense. I don't like them. And my dog's alive.

Yeah. Well, you know who's not is Ohio State. Is this a good time to point out that I actually disagreed with Spencer last week that Michigan was going to wreck shop in this game? And then I only got sucked into this fight the first place because I told one of the Ohio State fans and Spencer's mentions that he had

extreme tweeting from family court energy I thought y'all I thought y'all were gonna win this is why they make you turn off your phone at family court hey I was wrong hey I was wrong they were right clearly I don't watch the games this I will say it was a little funny it didn't end up lasting it was a little funny

that for the first half it was like Spencer was wrong they weren't just getting like pummeled. Yeah. Yeah. It just didn't fucking matter. Until it became clear, Spencer was part of the Okie-Doke. Spencer, don't ever make another prediction again as long as you live.

You have to retire on this record. Nope. Not a goddamn one. Not going to make a single prediction. If I told you two other rivals played today, and one of them ran for 237 yards on 37 carries. And the other one ran for 237 yards on 37 carries. And the other one ran for 54 yards on 31 carries. Who would you say won that game?

Well, not Clemson. I would say that the one that ran for 237 would have won, right? Well, Holly is right, because Clemson's the one who ran for that total, and not Clemson is the one who won. Because South Carolina beat Clemson 31. That is transitive SEC West champion, South Carolina. Correct. Eight and four, South Carolina.

broke a 40 game is it home winning streak for Clemson something like eight eight and four eight and four eight and and truly truly a baffling eight and four because the losses are to Georgia they got they got destroyed by Georgia 48 seven fine yes fine everyone does yeah they lost early to Arkansas on the road 44 30 and that was like Arkansas is super beat up this year they weren't that beat up then that's fine the other losses are 2310 to missouri and 386 to florida neither of whom looked great this weekend florida certainly didn't we're not going to talk about that very much destroyed tennessee ended the year beating number five at the time tennessee 6338 and going on the road to beat clemson 31 30 two of the year's best wins yes by the south Carolina game got Clemson the fuck up out of here for that we will be grateful for many months we do not have to endure Clemson scoring nine points in a playoff game which is what they were going to do if they made it thank you South Carolina thank you for that and did it like did it in

some extremely to end the game on we punt it back to you whoops we made you fumble now we'll just kneel it out just some truly spiteful shit I love it it's like they were holding their head while clems and swung on them little brother style but also holding them keeping them from collapsing to the ground by holding them up by their chinny chin that's that's the draymond green fight video is what you're describing anyway fortunately it's really easy for rich men to get into heaven so i don't know what dabbo has to worry about it is like on the one hand maybe this is just a quarterback issue and maybe it's just a matter of you know with they they they Clemson was blessed with amazing quarterback talent for an unheard of stretch that has slipped

and, you know, they need to get that back if they're going to make the next step. But this is not, like, this is not in any way a dominant team. Even to say that about a team that won 10 games, won the Atlantic, could certainly, like, I haven't looked at the line, but like if they win the ACC championship, it wouldn't be at all surprising. But then you look back and you're like, yep, beat Wake Forest by six, beat NC State by 10, beat Florida State by six, beat Syracuse by six in a game that really looked out of control for a while.

The resume was never there. It was never there. And to say, like, we have seen Clemson do versions of this in other years, but it usually is coupled with, oh, Clemson figured it out and turned it on and the last month of the season they're just fucking mashing everybody they never hit that switch this year

not even close not close yeah this was fraudulent Clemson late Clemson excited for them to be ranked preseason number five after they beat someone in the Orange Bowl sure probably Bama

yeah I actually know Bama's in line for a sugar bowl because Brian Kelly's number five, LSU Tigers. Journeyed to College Station to face one of the most overrated, beleaguered, hampered Texas A&M teams in history. And with playoff dreams dancing in their heads, Brian Kelly's Tigers lost by 15 to Texas A&M team

that had every reason to give up a week or two ago. So I texted Holly this already. I didn't watch a snap of this game. I was only sort of vaguely aware that it was going skew. I want this to be my, please tell me what the fuck happened here again for the three of you. Please walk me through this. We should probably get Brian on here as well. He also seemed to be confused.

If it was anybody else, I would say that he was pausing to contemplate the harm he had done to other people. and the harm that he had thus done to himself, but probably not. I will put it this way. Moose Muhammad. Boose Muhammad, the third. Talk about the push-off. Talk about the push-off in the end zone. Dude, he's so good.

He made this improbable. It looked improbable from the camera angle where he caught a ball that was shot perfectly over the shoulder of the DB into one-arm. And it was an impressive one-arm catch, right? Like, into the crook of his arm like a baby. With no vision. Like, he had, like, a little side eye through the helmet, and that was about it. But he caught it, and I was like, man, that was beautiful. And it was.

However, he did the sneakiest thing, which was he had his left arm down and was pushing off at the hip. Kids, if you've got to push off, don't do the big, like, don't do the big, like, super push off from the shoulder. No, you'll get flag for that. Do it at the hip, like professionals like Moose Muhammad did. Beautiful. It reminded me of, man, let's go deep here. It reminded me of Mariah Bell at Nationals, by which I mean it was this tiny little flick that carried so much power if you saw it.

And if you were looking anywhere else on the screen, you would have missed it completely. But it was such a beautiful piece of bodywork. So that's what happened. They played a terrible game offensively. for LSU and Texas A&M through the ball to moose Muhammad. Football simple sometimes. Yeah, A&M on 18 throws accomplished more through the air, not in raw yardage, but in accomplishments than LSU did on twice as many throws.

Yeah. LSU had a few more yards, but so what. As we all know, offensive yardage is a lie, right? Thank you, Kirk Farrantz. We'll get to you, Kirk. There's a long cue tonight. it's the best Saturday of the year every game matters every game hurts somebody's feelings i want to talk i want to talk about the hurtness feelings of all except for ohio state who lost badly

i'm sorry can we pause for one moment before we leave the acc and thank user spencer linstead for describing this chat as 2,212 people laughing at clemson briefly we were laughing at ohio state who lost mainly ohio state because of how badly they got destroyed by the only team to care about beating. Yeah. That's, that's really, everyone saw. Everyone saw 252 yards on the ground at home in Columbus, Ohio, the heart of America. Yeah, they did that.

The game that I actually wanted to talk about, I mean, I could talk about this one all day, but I'm actually going to talk about. The other game. The other game that I wanted to talk about. So, Oregon. Cool. Okay. Didn't know we were going here. All right.

Ryan, we're going to call this the Bo Nix Kudzu game, and you're going to see why. Okay. Okay, because he had the full Kudzu life cycle. Absolute menace, productive despite being injured, another 327-yard 2-TD performance. Very little on the ground, though, due to the fact that Bo Nix is injured and banged up. That's okay. Oregon State, you were saying about incongruous stats that said that one team should have won over another. I'm going to give you an over, under of 100 yards.

Did Oregon State pass for more than 100 or less than 100? Definitely less, definitely less. 60. Oh. And Coleranson threw for 60 yards. I'm going to say, I'm going to say at least one pick in there as well. Mm-hmm. Yep, yep, yep, yep.

So I'm going to take you through this. Okay. When we are in the third quarter, halfway through the third quarter, mind you, okay? Give me a score at this point. 310 Oregon. Okay, seems well in hand. Then 3117 Oregon State after a four-place, 75-yard drive. That's all runs, all runs, aided by a personal foul call in there.

That's okay, 3417 when Oregon gets a field goal. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Still doubled up, not a problem. Yep, but then a big kick return and another face mask penalty. The second in three drives for, or second in three possessions for Oregon State vis-à-the-Oregon's defenders, makes this another run-heavy, not a single-pass thrown, run-heavy 34-17 touchdown campaign. But yet you go, Oregon still probably got this. It's 34-24 at this point because, no, no, no.

no, Oregon fumbles, and there's a scoop and score, and they get it. Did I mention, by the way, that Oregon has, that Oregon, after a touchdown drive off that fumble, where it is 3431, Oregon will go for it from their own 29 on 4th and 1, and then they get injured Bo Nix to run on that play, and he does not get it. But they're still up. Yeah, still up, still up. About that. until Oregon again 60 yards passing on the night runs runs runs and runs for another touchdown to take the lead 38 34 Oregon drives all the way down to the Oregon State 3 where they're there for like I swear 20 minutes where they don't let they take the ball completely out of Bo Nix's hands until it's fourth and goal and then Bo Nix was an incomplete pass they run out the clock

Oregon loses 3834 to Oregon State who overcame a 3110 deficit and got all the way back, I believe, without completing a single pass. So they completed six passes all day long. The last pass that they attempted and completed was at 824 left in the third quarter, which was a one-yard completion where the receiver fumbled. the ball in Oregon recovered before that was it was it was uh 28 10 at the time that was that led to the Oregon field goal that put them up 31 10 so they said that didn't work we're done with it for the remaining 23 and a half minutes of the game they did not throw the ball yeah yeah and they won so here's the lesson kids fuck the pass yeah fuck it unless you're Michigan in the first half unless you're fortunate to be facing Ohio states quote unquote second

secondary. Oh, boy. That's right. That's right. You say that. Vanderbilt abandoned the pass tonight and I didn't go for it. So they were just trying to stem to end, I would imagine. Dude, I think they abandoned, I think the pass abandoned them, along with several other components of the game. Oregon State fans have taken up wearing orange cowboy hats. No one seems to know why. I asked a couple of Oregon State fans if they know. They don't. They just, it has, it's happened. So when they stormed the field, it looked like Oklahoma State fans storing the field. Oklahoma State domains don't have any reason to do that because they lose a lot. They're seven and five. But that's what, that was the appearance of it. So Oregon State is now the official best orange

cowboy team. So congrats. Congrats, y'all. Yeah, because Oklahoma State, you lost to West Virginia. Yeah, you're not supposed to do that, but you did. That's not a good West Virginia team either. Not a bowl eligible West Virginia team I was going to say they did win today So they're good today Tennessee is your other competitor for best orange team I suspect But they don't wear cowboy hats That seems like a mistake

They were running too fast They would have flown off their heads Especially in Nashville Like come on y'all They were trucker hats Come on Oh that is different Yeah listen

As mean loose and festive as bachelorets on the go that was the tennessee offense just running absolutely on a rampage tonight this is this is the thing we talked about before we started the show tennessee tonight scored 56 points and had over 500 offensive yards and did not convert a single third down because they didn't fucking need to whatever fine okay listen man you get it on second that's fine if you don't third down second or fourth. Third downs, third down's just a waste station between second and fourth. Get it on second or get it on fourth. Third down is for the timid and the drive.

Clap it on the twos and fours. Only even downs for the Tennessee volunteers, who appear to be fine, they appear to have recovered from the South Carolina debacle, uh, beautifully. Uh, okay, sure. Well, the Joe Milton deep passing experience is a wonderful random number generator. That's all I'll say. I love I love our Trebyshea I love our new Trebyshe I have nothing bad to say about

Joe Milton but when when the deep ball is coming you're like who knows who knows what the angle and acceleration was set to on this particular tank turn yeah who can say I also

shout out to the main ESPN account for joining our Twitter space tonight what's up joining our list of official grownups in the building I want to point out

Notre Dame loss that's always cool they got stunned it on by their main rival hitting the highs on them I think multiple times Caleb Williams who does appear

does appear that he will win that word he will snatch away Stets and Bennett's lifetime achievement trophy due to being a superior football player but whatever USC

probably mere minutes away from the playoff year one in Lincoln Riley's reign. The main thing, of course, is that Notre Dame lost. I was going to say, Notre Dame losing to this USC team clears the way for, do we have a weird log jam in the Pack 12 when it comes to that last spot? Okay, if USC is in, then who do they end up facing? So I've already forgotten how we, how we, how we, how we, I think as of recording for anyone who's not listening to live, Washington is up 21, Washington's 817, and this is important in some way. We figured it out before the show, and it's complicated. No, Washington cannot make

the Pac-12 championship. It involves Colorado if you want to know how deep it goes. Washington can't make it, but I believe it's, if Washington wins USC goes. USC is going. Or if Washington wins Oregon goes. Sorry, that seems wrong. And if Washington loses Utah goes. Was that what we? Someone will tweet us the correct answer. Yeah, if you know the answer, help us. Because this is, I will say this.

On the one hand, I'm like, this is confusing. But like, the Big Ten West was no less confusing. Yeah. Frankly, they have a winner and it's still confusing. Purdue's going to show up in Indianapolis. And I'll be like, what are they doing here? Are you sure we're supposed to be here? I know Iowa's not supposed to be here.

Because I know you can't lose to Nebraska and play in the Big Ten championship. championship game. That's true because they're in the Big 12th. You can't give up well over 20 points to Nebraska and do anything. You're not allowed to go anywhere. You have to sit at home and think about what you've done at that point. We're also going to get a Big 12 title game without Texas or Oklahoma. So the conference doesn't need them.

Yeah. Go ahead and discard those teams. Going to be better off without them. Just like everyone said. That's right. because TCU, by the way, didn't have to do any bullshit today, didn't have to, didn't have to invoke their magical hat full of bullshit. They just beat the hell out of Iowa State. They keep it in a hat.

They do. They keep it in a trucker hat, you know? Yeah, for, let's see, how many times this year did they just definitively trample someone other than Colorado and Tarleton State? Oklahoma, of course, because Oklahoma sucks. Oklahoma and Iowa State, that's it. That's the class area in Oklahoma. But regardless, count it, undefeated. That K stayed up next.

That was a fairly comfortable by TCU standards win the first time around 10 points. Let's see, we are being tweeted at about Pack 12 scenarios. Don Jenver says you guys flipped it. UW win means Utah goes. WSU win means Oregon goes. Sure, normal. Normal sport. Normal conference.

Washington can beat Oregon and eliminate them from the title game, I think, is okay. All right. Something like that. Sure. We'll find out soon. The TV will tell us who's going. I also wanted to salute Georgia for, I think, doing what you should do in a rivalry game as a heavy favorite. We don't have to talk about this game.

No, that Georgia Tech played. That Georgia Tech played pretty well. That's it. Tech had a lead. The SEC doesn't want you to know it. Frame it. Tech had a lead for quite a while. If I wanted to know about this game,

I would watch Thinking Out Loud on Mondays on the SEC Network. At halftime, it was merely 10-7 in favor of Georgia. You know what? That's a Georgia Tech win. Georgia Tech win. The SEC doesn't want you to know about that. I love that. Thanks to today's results, the SEC Championship doesn't matter.

George is going, and all that's left is which seed they get, which, I mean, even if they lose to this apparently garbage LSU team, I can't fall all that far. Michigan's going, and they just whoop the crap out of Ohio State, so they can't fall all that far. And the ACC doesn't matter because Clemson is too garbage for the playoff. So really... As is UNC? Who lost to NC State? To be fair, UNC is also far too garbage. garbage for the playoff.

Guys, what a fitting way to send the coastal off. Farewell forever in the coastal. God, I'm not about that. I'm so sad now. All those years of four and four. What an amazing farewell than to have an ACC championship game where both teams enter having just suffered a loss. What a beautiful thing the ACC is doing.

Playing for an Orange Bowl bid against Bammers, Tennessee. How many years have we watched the ACC championship game and being like, well, maybe it'll be interesting and Clemson will get knocked out. It's like, oh, I just didn't have, oh, man, really wanted it, but nope, there's Clemson in the spot. And now the ACC has seen fit to, like, I don't even know if you could concoct a nightmare scenario

where you could get the ACC champion into the playoff. I don't think you could do it. No. Challenge accepted. No, you can't. Like, if all four favorites lose next week, right? If Georgia, Michigan, T-C-U.S. South Carolina then.

Fuck it. I mean, you got Ohio State right there and you got Bama right there. Clemson cannot, unless they beat U.N.C. by like 200 points. Okay, okay, point-taking. Even then. Even then we'll be like App State put up that many points on them. Who cares? You want to worry about filling seats?

Shane Beamer's kids. All of them. Yep. Yeah. That's all you need to do. Oh, man. Butts in seats. We need a South Carolina Cincinnati bowl game.

My God, it'll just be two family. reunions you know what we do we've never needed it before but my god do we need it now we do but now we need it um hey uh did auburn hire football coach what time is it um not that i know of it's it's 1101 central just after midnight eastern not that i know of okay they're two candidates how they do well i ask you to take a long journey back in him history. How did they do at what? At football.

At winning football games this week. Okay, that's different. Okay. Yes. So Kiffin is no longer a candidate, right? Because he's gone ahead and shared the report that he's staying. Yes. Which I guess that doesn't, I wouldn't really put it past him sharing that and then taking it.

That takes it to 80, 20 to me. But if we're taking Kiffin at his word, which I realize the branch I'm going out on there when I say that. There is a scenario in which he's no longer a candidate, which means Hugh Freeze versus mystery coach versus Cadillac? Huh? I mean, I don't know if he, the Iron Bowl, it could have gone a lot worse. I think Auburn played better than the final score suggests, but it might not have been enough to push him across the finish line.

Then again, if your other choice is Hugh Freeze, who, was a 24-point favorite against Liberty's arch-rival New Mexico State. Look it up. They usually play twice a year. This is their only rival. 24-point favorite, but you lost by 35, Hugh Freeze. That's the opposite. They don't call him Jerry Hug.

Jesus Christ. Wow. It's not Jerry Kiss. Tender fucking mercies. beat the I like that people at Liberty were shouting go to Auburn

per beat reporters there were shouting go to Auburn at Hugh Fritz The awesome part is he might not It's also not just this Liberty ended the year on a three game losing streak

Oh but they lost their really good teams right Well Yukon is bowl eligible Because of Liberty So I'll give them that Yukon is bowl eligible, as previously discussed. Because of Liberty.

So their givers is what I'm hearing. Virgin Utec. Virgin Utec won three games. That's a power conference team. Yep. And the other one's New Mexico State, which almost didn't have football anymore like three minutes ago. And as for the other campus.

Candidate, yeah, he's turned it down. So let's, wait, wait, but, but I know it, I know it's days ago. Can we talk a little bit about the egg bowl? I would love. Can we just talk a little bit about the egg bowl? Oh, please. Oh, yeah, certainly. Yes, please.

Because, I still don't understand. Ole Miss drives, it goes on this huge touchdown drive. We're like, oh, this is it. We're going overtime, but they got it. They know they have to get a two-point conversion. not a mystery the minute they get the ball back they understand that that's the assignment they have three timeouts when this drive starts they successfully manage the clock and the ball success well enough that they don't have to burn any of these timeouts on the way and then they burn two timeouts after

scoring a touchdown before the two point attempt that's right and i've never seen i like is this am i forgetting this is one of the most baffling coaching decisions i've ever seen burning one i can maybe understand you didn't you you you fucked up the personnel or they showed you a look that was totally unexpected and if they still had two timeouts there was a chance that they could still get the ball back after an unsuccessful onside kick not have a lot of time but have some but they burned two and effectively made it an onside kick or nothing what the fuck happened here yeah this smacked of a dare gone terribly wrong um you um have a question And I have no answer.

Okay. Were you listening? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Lane Kiffin burned those two timeouts. And at the time, I was like, could there be any logical reason why you burned those two timeouts? No. No.

Like, what? Did you see something you didn't like the second time? Because you know, in my head, I have never played football. I have never coach football. But in my head, when you are, when you start this drive, you know what your two point call is going to be. Right? Yeah.

You know, this is our best two-point play. We are calling it now if we score the touchdown. There is no mystery here. Yeah. Yeah, you're just, you're going to run it, right? And when that happens, by the way, the call they come back with is the shovel pass. Which, which if it had been, if it hadn't been tipped, I think would have worked. It didn't need two timeouts worth of pontificating in debate.

Yeah. Also, with that play, I don't get, like, the basic thing about that play to me is that, yeah, the guy made a play, okay? Made a great play to finish it off, knock the ball down, and get it. But one of the things about that play is that you can run it on second down, and it isn't a fumble, right? Because it's a forward pass. Right. Right. You run it on, like, second down, maybe third down, as a sort of risk-free option that way.

Because you can. As a trick play. can't backfire too badly right right right right you're past that point in consideration to me for that play yeah right unless it like the counter will be unless it works okay sure what is that what is that not true of yeah it just doesn't seem like it just doesn't seem like i'd almost you rather just run with quinshawn judkins who got you there in the first place right yeah just a Straight run. Shout out Jay Arnold in the Twitter space, hammering the heart button after all Jay's been through this year.

After all the frowny emojis he said to drop off. That's right. We love our rhythmic pal. Everyone send Jay some hearts. That's right. I don't know. We'll get some hearts in the chat for Jay Arnold. Hearts in the chat.

So now I am forced to ask, what are Old Misses' two best wins this year? Who, Daddy. I'll give you the list. I'll give you the list. They opened with an 18th wins. point win over Troy, and then they beat Central Arkansas by 56. They blanked Georgia Tech 420. That was pre-firing, therefore it doesn't count. They beat Tulsa by eight. They beat Kentucky by three in a game that Kentucky basically

vomited back to them multiple times. The baby bird bowl. Crushed Vanderbilt, beat Auburn by 14. I don't believe Brian Harsen had been fired yet at that point. That game also doesn't count under all the known rules of the universe. Got stomped by LSU, beat Texas A&M by three, lost to Bama by six, lost to Arkansas by 15, lost the Egg Bowl. What are you suggesting? By the numbers, the best team they've beaten is Kentucky, and they did it by three at home. Yes, yeah.

Their best performance is probably losing by six to Bama. So those are my two answers. This is not a good year for Ole Miss. It's not terrible. Eight and four is fine, but this is not a good year. This is not a year that, like, if Lane Kiffin's not taking the Auburn job, and it was offered to him, and he decided, no, I will stay. Doesn't this feel like this is just going to be a, like, a recommitment ceremony that you're like,

why didn't you two get divorced? Why are you doing this? When you're in the preseason number 21, and this is what you have to show for it. You didn't quite hit expectations. Like, I know that the West has been a land of confusing outcomes, and you're not the worst because you're not Texas A&M. That's correct. But this is not a great year. Yeah, I also, that roster is a very weird roster.

Yeah. It was stitched together in large part with a bunch of transfers, the flux in an out. of that program is going to be unreal over the next three to six months just because that's kind of how they're built and that's like to me that that and they still don't have an obvious answer a quarterback which is kind of the thing that i mean the obvious answer is that they fucking hated passing the ball this year every time it looked it looked like oh man have you ever seen, like, a dad at a wedding who doesn't want to dance, but is forced to, that's Old Miss every time they got into a passing down this year. They're just like, all right,

here we go, cha-cha slide time. Oh, Jesus. Here comes the 15-yard dig. That's my dance. Ole Miss and Duke finished with the same record. Yeah. Ryan, I think things will turn around in the Texas Bowl on December 28th for Ole Miss. That's, that's, that's, that's probably what they're aiming for this year. Possibly Gator Bowl ambitions still on the table. But, yeah. That's not good. That's what you're saying.

I'm saying none of this is good. No. Nope. No. So it's Ole Miss. Okay, cool. Cool. No.

Also, I'm sorry, I'm just sort of scrolling and looking at shit. Illinois shouldn't score 41 points on anybody. They don't want to They don't they don't want to They only Illinois only ran 54 plays And scored 41 points

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Northwestern and Colorado this year They both won games Somehow Northwestern of course did not win one on this continent, but they are both in consideration for the worst one-win power five teams. Let's go with ever. I don't think they're quite going to win the title there, but they are in heavy consideration. Colorado rolled into the day already in a consideration for that mark and then lost to Utah by 6321. Dig a little deeper there.

I want to see if they actually ended up with more than one first down. Because as of a certain point in that game, they had one first down. I think pretty deep into the third. Oh, they got 12. Yeah, they had an explosion. There's an explosion in the second half. Utah got 32 first down, which is significantly more than 12. Scores of interest right now, Washington is up 2824 over Washington State in the Apple Cup.

Stanford is fighting hard for David Shaw as they've kicked a field goal to take it to a 21-3 deficit. A field goal before the final buzzer this time. This is an early field goal. There may be another, hey, stay tuned. There may be another thriller. We may get another three at the buzzer. I'm now realizing that Notre Dame, Ole Miss, Duke, and South Carolina all finished eight and four. numbers don't matter they don't mean it's a normal record it's a very it's a very normal record that

only prestigious schools get michigan state didn't finish eight and four that's for damn sure lots of teams go eight and four it's like liberty despite liberty playing god damn no one they finished eight and four they did remember they remember that was with a three-game losing streak to end the season we really like i want so when you have a record i want it to be like color-coded so I know how that ended, right? I want to know what kind of a nosedive you were on at the end of the season. Or if you, like, pulled way out of it. Yeah, it should be like...

A little arrow up or down. Yeah. Yeah, it should be like 8 and 4, and then it should be have a little negative 3 after it, so I know that you skidded to a halt on the runway on fire. Let's talk about one more 8 and 4 team real quick. It hasn't been a great year for the Panthers. One a rivalry game to start the year,

but overall, kind of disappointing, 8 and 4, as we've already established, did actually come pretty close to going back to the ACC championship game, and if they could have beaten North Carolina instead of losing to them pretty badly, they would have gotten that spot. But they just beat the piss out of Miami today. 4216. Not only that, shit was so dire that we witnessed a situation in which Pitt's official social media accounts were clowning another team for a hopeless field goal.

Miami kicked field goal to make it 28 to 3 in the second half, and Pitt was making fun of it. My favorite clown of this particular bit of clownery was Alex Kirchner, who called Mario Crystal Ball's game management Unserious, which I think is equivalent to like anyone else on the planet, motherfucking you. It's when Alex Kirchner's like, yeah, that's unsurious. So Miami's going to finish the first year under Mario 5 and 7. Miami preseason number 16.

It's several drastic plummets this year. All these, almost all these, like the A&M loss and the UNC loss, but most of these other ones like, yeah, got stomp by MTSU, got stumped by Duke got absolutely obliterated by Florida State blown out by Clemson blown out by Pitt these are not close these are not close losses there's some there's some work to do here

that's what we call a full tear down Ryan I don't know if you've done this kind of project before but it's demo day it's going to look ugly but once we get the shiplap in here it's going to look beautiful oh yeah there's Manny all in the walls here we're going to have to rip all this out Hey, pal, that's a seven and five mitzoo they lost two. Okay. Yeah.

I also need to point this out. Shouts out to Penn State's social media team. I know Pitt was doing good work on this front, but shouts out to Penn State social media team for posting one of the best things I've seen in a while. I'm going to see if I can find it. It was a video of the land grant trophy. If you've not seen the land grant trophy, it is the ugly. piece of shit I have ever seen in my life. It is an office pillar from a poorly decorated 1980s office that is festooned with brick-a-breck and plaques, just tacked to the side of it.

There should be a phone. It's the sort of thing that you look at and go, this should have a phone, right? And they did a video, which is just the land grant trophy in a video and a guy going, the land grant trophy like just like that with absolutely no pitch i will share it in the chat it is it is exactly what the land grant trophy deserves i do think they should take the land grant trophy um to antiques road show just without any explanations be like i found this in my grandfather's attic what's it worth just be like what the fuck i'm sorry what is this i stole this from some football players and green, green jerseys. They didn't seem worthy of it.

They didn't want it. Apparently, they didn't put it much of a fight for it. Yes, but shouts out to Mel Tucker for taking the shine off Jimbo. And by shine, I mean the negative sort as in a spotlight by being the highest paid coach who suffered the worst loss today. Today, yeah. Ultimately, they're both five and seven. Not going bowling.

It's a lot of money to not go bowling. Despite making an 80 plus million dollars guaranteed. I mean, again, this is merely a note, one with a faint note of praise behind it, because good job, you. Good job. What is EMU's coaches make, do you think? What's Chris Creighton make? Hmm, Chris Creighton's salary. The sound of typing.

Ah, he makes $515,000 a year. I would pay that instead of, instead of, Bill Tucker and Chimbo Money. E.M.U. 8 and 4. Yeah, man. Good job, I'll be EMU. Another program that had a fairly

good day on a budget today. I don't know. Do you see the Georgia Southern Appalachian State game? Went to O.T. It was very exciting. That would be Clay Hilton finishing off a triumphant year. And he left behind a playoff team, too. Yeah, left. I've never seen

Lincoln Riley reach the playoff without Clay Hilton's players at U.S.C. He did it at Oklahoma, but that didn't count because... That is correct. Bowl eligible Georgia Southern print of a T-shirt. They are at 6 and 6 with a 58 or 51-48 win. And beautiful states boogie. Holly, you said in our chat, the Apple Cups getting weird.

Yeah, it's kind of weird. Okay. I mean, it's 2824. Okay. is currently 12.19 p.m. on the East Coast on Sunday, November 27th. If you're powering down for the night, maybe, maybe slide back onto the couch. We are almost at half time, and Washington has 326 yards of offense and is six of seven on third down. Yeah, that's part of what I meant.

Washington State has 304 yards of offense, and it's not been as good. on third down, but they're four of four on fourth down. That is the other thing that I'm at. And it appears Wazoo might score before the half here. This season has been very light on late night games that have actual consequences.

And it looks like we have one here. So that's nice. Maybe because any of the good teams out there, USC typically beats them pretty easily. This is why you have to take care of your business. This is why you can't live a life of sin because otherwise you look up one day and your Pact 12 championship fate

turns on the goddamn Apple Cup. I know it had... Why have you lived that life? I know it had absolutely no no stakes unlike other matchups in the Pact 12, but shouts out to Arizona State, Arizona, which was absolutely wild.

Exactly what I want out of this game every single time. Arizona daring to actually play defense Jaden DeLora with the most Jaden DeLora line of all time. He won with throwing 12 for 23 for 200 yards, no TDs, and an interception. Arizona, not exactly Nebraska 95 when it comes to rushing the bowl, went for 280. Michael Wiley went wild against the Sun Devils. So just shouts out, Arizona.

I know, you're 5 and 7. You're not going to a bowl game. show you all are fun that was extremely fun I think you beat Arizona State you don't really give a shit about a bowl game like you're good with that no you're fine also shouts out to jaden dolara for being

the most dangerous quarterback alive the entire season I didn't say best I said most dangerous people have asked is this a blood week I'm just going to give up on the rule about if you have to ask it's not whatever you're just going to ask me it doesn't matter what I say I would say no, but based on the results that actually happened, you know, pretty close.

Oregon State was favored by a point. Michigan was number three, and it beats Ohio State every year anyway. That's hardly a surprise. Kicks the shit out of Ohio State every year. So Michigan State doing that, or Michigan doing that once again to Ohio State. It's expected at this point. Clemson going down, obviously that's exciting and contributes to blood we considerate. But LSU, that's the other one.

LSU, that's also up there. But you need a little bit more than that. There's nice stuff in the teens and 20s as far as the rankings go. But yeah, a very entertaining weekend, especially because Ohio State lost really badly. Did they? I heard that. It was really bad. Did you see it?

I think I'm going to rewatch it. He doesn't watch the games. You know this. All right. I don't watch them. I'm just getting these takes off of the hip. He's just all fives, bro. blind guesses

That's it I just get here fling takes Just like when the seal at the zoo When they let it pick the games It's a big old hairy sea lion

honking horns That was Spencer's method For determining Michigan Which pork chop will Spencer eat That determines who will win That's what I'm out here doing bro

We should note. None of our playoff picks are going to work out this year. Hey! We got close. I'm sorry. Oh, from our... From our off-season game. From our off-season game.

Ryan, let's review again who everybody had so that we can decide who won. I got to pull it up. Hold on. To be clear, folks, these were randomized. We can't help. No, they weren't. We can't be held accountable for these. All right.

So let's review performance here. Okay. Spencer, you had Cal. Well? No? No? Close. Close. Shit.

How could you? Let's do this. Let's see how many bowl eligible teams. Folks, if you remember how we pick these teams and you have friends listening who are mad and don't remember how we pick these teams, don't tell them. Don't tell them. Spencer, you had Cal, Cal finished four and eight. You also had East Carolina. who went seven and five.

So you've got one bowl eligible team there. You had Notre Dame. They went eight and four, two bowl eligible teams. And Oklahoma State, who despite a lackluster loss today, also seven and five. So you don't have any double-digit win teams.

Okay. But you have three bowl teams. Holly. Holly is crushing it. You're surprising. disappointing team I would not have picked of this group is Utah State, but Utah State went six and six, so still bowl eligible, although I don't know based on how the assignments go if that will actually mean a bowl or not. I haven't looked. Fair enough. You also have Kansas State,

who as we've previously discussed, is in a conference championship game. You have Tennessee What happened there? Double-digit wins. Hey. I mean, 10 and 2 is nothing to sneeze at. Certainly not what I think you would have predicted at the start of the year. No.

No, that is one way of putting it. And you had Vanderbilt who... Yes. Even by our standards, a very good Vanderbilt year. I don't know what happened in the Florida game because I was literally in a cave during the... I am not going to discuss it.

I have relocated. located Florida to the SACC West and Chrysendham University of Bull Miss. Thank you. You are welcome. Jason, you had Nebraska. They're not going to make a bowl game. You had Hawaii. How do you know?

They're not going to make a bowl game. They provided Michigan crucial quarterback carousel practice. Now, you do have something that you do have something Spencer doesn't have. You have a double-digit win team in UTSA. finishing the year 10 and 2. I forgot about that. Which pulled off a huge comeback against U-TAP today. Yes, easily the best team in Kusa, 8-N-Oan conference.

Meet Meep indeed. And then you have UCF, which... Fine year? I think fine here. Yeah, which is kind of stumbling into New Orleans to play Tulane in the AAC title game. With it, I was just going to say, look way too close against USF today. Yeah, you don't ever want to look close against this USF team.

Yeah. No, no, that would only a really shitty team would do that. You're not wrong. Nothing you're saying is wrong. I had Wyoming. They're barely bull eligible. I also had Vanderbilt. They're not.

I had Nebraska. They're not. And my fourth team was eight and four Liberty. So, wow, they lost four games. So I think I'm probably at the bottom, and I think it probably goes, Holly, Jason, Spencer, Me. Just like the new show. I could be talked into Holly Spencer, Jason, me. No.

Holly's definitely at the top. I'm definitely worst. Congratulations, Holly. Thank you. You are the smartest. We are definitely doing this again next year. You are the smartest and most accomplice. of all of us.

The smartest and most accomplished dice roller. It is, it is extremely faint praise. Please refer to me as riverboat. I will. That's an old riverboat Anderson over there.

Not just because I'm full of hot air. Is that how those work? I don't fucking know. You know. Oh. They got paddle boats. They got steam engines on paddle boats, right? Uncleas.

Citation needed. Citation. needed. Can I say one other thing about the Vanderbilt game that I attended? Oh, please do. Two things. First of all, yes, Spencer is right. I belong to that particular subset of dumb

Southerner that thinks a hooded sweatshirt is rain gear. It is fucking not. It was very cold. Second of all, so it was senior night, which meant unfortunately that while most Vandy fans left super

early in this game, like early third quarter early the families of the seniors did not they had to sit through rain and wind and cold and a scoreless Vanderbilt output but they did they stopped to do um at half time they did they acknowledged the seniors on the band and like the dance team and uh the cheerleading squad and like a handful of other things like that and this is how i know that Vanderbilt is different from at least Florida. So they're going through, they're announcing each one. They're acknowledging each one of the seniors on these auxiliary non-football squads.

And they're saying they're major. And at Vanderbilt, these are all like some major-ass majors. It's like chemical engineering and neuroscience and this, that, the other. And my political science ass over here is like, oh, nobody does those major. Nobody does. Like, come on. Spencer, how many people in the Florida band are like, oh, I'm also. doing biochemistry uh not many okay we weren't very smart though people go people go to vanderbilt

to do school and that's fine but but but it's not very SEC I got to be honest but props to those people they all seemed like super smart and they're probably going to get really useful and accomplished jobs and well I'll be here on Twitter spaces praying it praying it works. They're not going to be finance bros. What are you talking about? Can you be a neuroscience finance bro? I guess that's probably the only finance bro left.

Can I hand out a, since we're in the SEC, so I'd like to hand out a game ball to South Carolina's punter. Who planted three inside the Clemson three on the day. Kai Kroger is the fellow's name. including I think if I have the numbers right five inside the 20 and three different punts inside the three yard line the dude averaged 54 yards per punt on the day good god it like very well might have made the difference that kept

clompson out of the playoff so salute to you young man and your uh your satellite precision punting leg yeah also also shouts out to spencer rattler for for yes progressing slightly i'm not right about everything i was like he's going to regress to the mean that matter punter punter got his back let him look good yards for day today for the rattler yeah it was fine oklahoma did indeed lose to texas tech lost six games for the first time since 1998. Mm-hmm. Is that bad?

Still gonna make a bowl game now, which they have done every year since 1999. Yeah, they're not feeling good about that, right? Well, they were the preseason number nine, so. I mean, looking, look, you have to look back at it now and realize, like, what is, I guess, yeah, I guess it's, no, it's Bedlam. Honestly, yeah, it's just as it always would,

bedlam is the thing that push them over the top even in this a topsy-turvy confusing wildly unexpected and entertaining year in the big 12 oklahoma always wins bedlam and that was that is the thing that make that will that put them over the top here it's kind of comforting isn't it something's never changed it's nice um i would uh to to go back by the way to Michigan, Ohio State. Yeah. You know, interesting thing about that game is Michigan scored 45 points, which is nearly twice as many as Ohio State scored. Hmm.

Seems like a lot. Isn't this, like, both in the final score and in the progression of the score, isn't this exactly like how this game used to be flipped? Like, aren't you used to it being Ohio State 45, Michigan, and Michigan having to be like, fuck, it was so close at halftime. Yeah. Hmm. Who has to do that now?

Whoever you going to say, Holly? I just texted it to you. But yeah, the thing I actually wanted to say was congratulations to Mizzou for becoming the most balanced team in all of college football by scoring exactly two more points than they allowed the entire year, thus being the most six and six team of all, the most balanced, congratulations. Mizzou, definitely what you want to do when you're going, hmm, should we extend, should we extend Eli Drinkwitz?

It's like, ah, just a little. That's fine. Just a little. It's fine. It's fine. Y'all are fine going six and six. Right? It's better than not.

So I think next week, I hate to say it, but I think my main rooting interest is Purdue, despite being a University of Michigan alumni. Well, you believe in the moon first and foremost. The moon goes first. Do we? Because if Purdue, pulls off its usual beat a far superior top five team bullshit that could possibly drop Michigan

down to number four, which would set up the semifinals of Georgia, Michigan to see who is the best GER team and possibly USCTCU in the two three game to see who is the best zippy wacky ball The best how the hell haven't you lost two games team? Yeah, and that's what we want, right? We won a title game pairing the best team from each iteration of what we want football to be. The best old guy team and the best, like, the kids are out of control team. A warning to TCU. You will be facing Kansas State, the big 12 title game.

Kansas State. A program at a team that historically really only specializes in one thing, ruining your good thing. That's it. Are we at the point, and I'm not saying this is right, but are we at the point where if TCU loses that game, the Big 12 championship game that they're out? Remember that the stated preference of the committee, all right, when they want to look super important and act like they have rules, is to say this, we value conference champions. And if you don't win your conference. But, but, but, but. So Georgia and Michigan are in.

Georgia and Michigan are in. I think the question is, is TCU also in that tier? Yes, that is exactly the question. I think if TCU loses close against a verifiably, really good K-State, possibly. But there's also a scenario where if they say they were to lose by 10 and ooh, that looked bad, they could get jumped by Ohio State. And that be the second time that's happened Because if you just go based off strength of schedule TCU has Georgia and Michigan B

Yeah But I don't know Like there is This is very boring But there is some brand name bullshit going on here Where if it were Oklahoma in the exact same spot Or Texas in the exact same spot TCU wouldn't it wouldn't be a doubt

There would be no doubt that TCU was was in even if they didn't win this this conference title right i'm not entirely sure about that because like again tc u has won a number of games by the scales of their skin sure it works for frogs lizards but but kansas state will also i mean i think this is true i don't i don't know if it's a hundred percent true but like kansas state is maybe the best of the three opponents that we're talking about between Ken State LSU and Purdue? They'll be...

LSU is kind of a tricky one. LSU will probably be the highest ranked still. But it won't be... The Delta will be pretty short. Yeah, they're both three lost teams who will be ranked around number 10. Okay. So it is really interesting because of all the things

the committee says they evaluate, right? Which ultimately it works out to. They rank them how they want to rank them and then they cite the things they want to cite. TCU is a very interesting test case because, like, do you like strength of schedule? Well, TCU should be in. Do you like teams that have won at least 12 games

and then played a conference title game? You said you wanted one of those so the Big 12 added one, so you're going to punish them if they lose it, right? Yes, that's the only way we will. As always, we advise the Big 12 not to add a conference title game. So let's see that backfire on them.

And you know what the playoff committee is going to do this week? they're going to put Bama 5. Oh, absolutely. They're going to do it. I would anticipate Ohio State at 5, but Bama could be 6. Certainly could. They will definitely put Bama high enough that the media and everyone else will have to spend an entire week going to be like, God damn it, how are they going to sneak Alabama into this shit?

How are they going to do it? Those pieces of shit. they did it i guess USC will also be right up there but close enough to where it's like we figure they're in anyway uh-huh so yeah yeah every single year it'll every single like um playoff debate ultimately comes down to who's the breaking case of emergency number four team nobody actually thinks deserves it but we have to pick someone totally because we said we wanted a four and it's either bama or ohio state i will laugh so hard if they do this with bama Bama are the best team they've beaten as well

I'm not even sure Bama wants to go No it's Bama You see them play It's Bama because this is If you left Bama out Bama fans this year I don't think would have a problem with that I think they have enough

Rational capacity to say like Yeah This has been like a kind of flawed up and down team That hasn't been dominant And two losses didn't win your division I think they'd be okay with them But Ohio State fans are the ones who will fucking lose their mind, which is why Ohio State's going to be the one that gets left out at Alabama is the one that gets put in.

And it's amazing because you just lost by 22, but we all know what you're going to do. Playoff conspiracy. Woke Disney Conspiracy. Remember, this is, I blogged this somewhere, but every single year of since the playoff has been invented, Ohio State has been the most controversial team, whether they're in or they're out. Why do you think Disney brought back back? Bob Iger to ensure that Ohio State we get fucked once more. Either get fucked or fuck someone else.

That's it. That's all Ohio State is good for. They never earned their way in on clear merits. No. Just causing problems. And everyone is furious. Just a participation trophy program. Just making mess.

Just making a goddamn mess. None of this would have been a problem if they'd beat in Michigan. Of course, they came nowhere near beating Michigan. In fact, they were quite far. Did you see that? that? We all saw that, yeah. Once again, for the second year in row, it was numerous touchdowns, which they fell short. Strangely enough, this year was at home in Columbus, Ohio. You think they would have gotten closer, especially since they got such a good look at Michigan's MO and built their

entire program around it, but unfortunately, Michigan was good at multiple things. I bet it was a shootout where they were really, really tight, and they really fought to the end. Yeah, Michigan shot it out. Here is a tweet I don't understand from Matt Liner. USC 11 and 1 going to the Pact 12 title game with a playoff spot online Oklahoma going into OT

fighting for their sixth win which you didn't get hashtag karma No I don't get that Literally the next person Literally Literally literally literally Literally literally the next person online

Who does the hashtag karma thing With an actual definition of karma We'll be the first person to do that Is that um Matt has not taken the lessons of the parable of Brett Bilema's white Is that about like Are you fans complaining about Lincoln Riley leaving?

I don't know. I don't. I don't know. For what sin is Oklahoma being punished for here? I don't. How long you got? I got a list. For giving USC players.

I refuse to think about this any further until we hear from Matt Liner what he thinks karma means. Yeah. Also, the sins of Oklahoma. that includes the hobby lobby thefts so maybe matt liner is stepping up for the uh those stolen antiquities and the nations exploited by those yeah that's got to be it technically everything's karma so i mean you could just hashtag all your score tweets with that and just matt just matt linard on the side of this is this is this just sort of a west coasty way of saying god has a plan it's like cause and effect ultimately is the thing so like yeah u s scored more points and therefore

they win. That was the cause and the effect. Oklahoma. Did not. Did not. Did not. Carma. Huh. That's out what works. Matt Linerd on the set going, this belongs in a museum. Matt Larner belongs in a wax museum.

You think Irvin Meyer's going to get the Ohio State job? 100%. As soon as they finally can Ryan Day, the modern John Cooper. John Cooper went 2.10 and 1. 2.10 and 1. He beat Michigan multiple times. Right, I take it back.

I take it back. Sorry, John. Also, we got the one. Yeah. That is a different era. Can you imagine the boiling, lumpy rage of the Ohio State fan sitting on their couch in 1990, whatever? Watching 16-bit football. On a TV that weighed 900 pounds. On a Game Boy.

watching an Iowa State football player coach their team. To a miserable loss against, another miserable loss against Michigan, you know, to be like, I want to stop voting for Democrats. What the fuck? That's, and look where we're at, look at Ohio now. I think that's how it worked. I'm so mad. So mad.

I'm voting. for whoever's mad like me That's what I'm going to do He's going to take care of it He's appropriately mad I vote for JD Bans That's how mad I am That's how mad I am

My God, who are they going to vote for next time After they lose to Michigan again next year John Cooper works for the Bengals Governor Knight That can't be right That's what his Wikipedia page says What's he doing for him it says he's a scouting consultant

huh oh that's made up this can't be right this yeah the article this has to be out of because he joined the Bengals in 2002 and if you're telling me John Cooper has been working for the Bengals for 20 fucking years

come on yeah this is where I also remember that Nashville's mayor is named John Cooper so has a lead singer of does he even try to get a melon camp in there so is the lead singer of Christofascist rock band skillet man

john cooper's a really hit or miss except for when they come to michigan then they're just miss 210 and one's not great can you imagine the anger though 10 that's one zero yeah 10 they had to be so mad at his ass and you know what they still didn't throw a brick through his window

because that's some bama shit because they didn't care enough that's right they didn't want it that's why you keep losing. I think the, looking at the New Year's sixth slate, I think the weirdest thing on the table right now is Tulane, Penn State, Cotton Bowl. I think Penn State might have the best angle for the final sort of at-large spot. Talk about two teams with deep animosity, Tulane and Penn State. That's the, that's your 9 a.m. New Year 6 game right there.

Tulane and Penn State. That is the most 1941 game I have ever heard in my last. life. Boys from Tulane, Rich off all that sugar money, heading to play the farm boys from Penn State. Just make up conference names. It is. Yeah, that'd be SEC and independent at that point.

Yeah, yeah. Penn State. Penn State, winners of the West Sky Conference. What? Out of the Genesee Coma Conference. They're to face Tulane, the sugar parents from New Orleans. Yeah, this is a good, listen, it was a great weekend.

Every single thing about this was absolutely awesome. Florida State beat Florida. They did. They beat our ass. Straight up. It was a great game. It was a great game. That was a highly entertaining game.

No shame. Hold your heads high. I know you won't. It's fine. I know you won't. You never do. It's fine. You always sad about your team no matter what they do.

I just don't care. I just don't care We can tell I will be sad You're going to a bowl You're going to Gasparilla or whatever Gasparia Have we talked about Argue?

Let's let's save Argue for the 40 for 40 actually Yeah yeah We'll get there Is this Gasparillo of lore? It sure is Sure Hell yeah lore is giving it a little crap

Gasparil lore Yeah Yep Yep Yep Yep So I believe we have covered all that we want to cover right now. Let's real quick check in on FCS where, of course,

are the two finest conferences in all of Division I. Yes. Done battle throughout the day. Your big winners are, well, Elon fucked up. That's not new. Furman dispatched the owner of Twitter. Delaware, New Hampshire, Richmond, Weber State, of course. Gardner Webb, Southeast Louisiana, advancing on the day.

Montana is currently in a tussle with Simo We'll see how well the big sky fairs there But that's your update Pretty good day for the good guys Overall Go spiders Go spiders If you are still in the chat

I want to go ahead and thank The people who turned out tonight For rivalry week Fullcast after dark Smoking musket I'm sorry you're not going to fire your coach now yeah um i see m go blog here what's up y'all shaking the south of land you probably will s ccette stalwart thank you for attending jim prosser i jim you've been up for like ever

dude yeah jim you're on the channel six space this morning are you okay you don't have to answer that yeah legally you don't have to answer that man it's fine i predict forecast after dark will go live after State TCU, a game that kicks in 11. A game that is being played. It's dark somewhere. It's true. It's dark in your heart.

It's dark in Ohio State, where they lost to Michigan really fucking badly. Did that happen? It totally happened, and you're going to have to deal with it for a year. Well, that's nothing. They've already dealt with it for a year. Yeah, God, that was the worst loss I've seen Ohio State take to Michigan since the last one. that I was personally there and stormed the field for. Huh.

It's weird. If we show up again, they win again, right? Didn't need to this time. Mm-mm. I mean, they just beat Ohio State with or without us. Oh, you guys are the feather and dumbo. Yeah, they didn't need us at all. To be clear, we were invited and decided not to go because gross.

Because the blue jackets suck, as we've discussed. Yeah. Get a real hockey team, Columbus. We don't want to get that close to a terrible hockey team. Listen, if there's two things Atlanta and Nashville know, it's real NHL hockey. And you don't got it, Columbus. But you come to a real hockey town. You know, most, God, based on not most of the Ohio State fans I know, but most of the ones I've met the past couple of weeks, they're not actually Blue Jackets fans.

They're like, no, I root for the Canadians, the Lakers, and the Red Sox. Wow. Give a lot of credit to the Habs there. Love it, though. Are they good? No, no, you named a Canadian team, so they're not winning a championship. That's correct. USA!

USA! Oh, boy. The players are all Canadian and finish in Russian. USA! USA! They are now. Damn it. You get American citizenship if you score a goal in the NHL.

It's just how it works. Janus loves funnions. He's one of us. Listen, the Yannis smoothie tweet is proof that he's American, okay? Yo, I just had my first smoothie. This is America. Awesome. I love the USA.

That's right, Janus. It's fucking right. I'm going to really enjoy when we pick a random NBA playoff series to do after Dark Four. It's going to be great. The late breaking news, Greg Beecham on Twitter has just posted. Caleb Williams' nails were painted tonight with the letters F-U-C-K-N-D-X-Hisman. I can't comment on this award, but I'm voting for him. After that, yeah, that just did it.

I mean, that kind of anti-Catholic sentiment will get you elected president in several decades of American history. Once again, Heism voter, Spencer Hall, anti-Catholic. It's funny because we know we won't ever be held accountable for our words or actions. Yeah, you know who's not answering, you know whose prayers aren't being answered by God tonight? That's right, the Ohio State Buckeyes. Yeah. Did something happen? Yeah, they lost to Michigan.

It's crazy. Got absolutely killed by them. They should probably try harder in the Charity Bowl next year, unless they would like to lose at that as well. That's fine. Going to see a lot of 4523 donations. That's good. Oh, my God. There really will be.

Yeah, 4523. that might be the end of the show now i think yeah i think i think i think we're good it can be i think we're good thank you for uh joining another successful edition of the fullcast after dark uh for holly anderson ryan nanny and jason thanks y'all