Shutdown Fullcast - FULLCAST AFTER DARK - Week 9 College Football Recap: The ACC Saved Halloween

Episode Date: October 29, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, everybody. Welcome to the CW. Welcome to the CW. A homeless supernatural. Banger after banger after banger. God. Like, I almost feel ungrateful now. No, I think we all appreciate the CW for what it does for us. I think the fact that we were so early on our CW appreciation, we built up goodwill and credit with that fine, fine network.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Also, I'll buy a poll. low. I don't need you to send me one for free CW. I just want to own one. Um, it's probably, we could probably make nicer ones ourselves. They look scratch. Network merch. Merch. Merch is, this is, I say
Starting point is 00:00:44 this is somebody. Riverdale undies only. I assume. We've all worked for different networks and, and media providers. And I think we can all safely say this together. The CW is the true home of college football. I know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Yeah. because you know what you didn't you didn't fall in love with this board i mean really really deep like like deep in it love with this sport watching a major night game you didn't you absolutely did not do you know um you know what they did do what you did do you fell in love with like a jp game right you fell in love with the jefferson pilot game you fell in love with like Come sports buying only the most Foyles for this night. Triple Dave's. Triple Dave's, right?
Starting point is 00:01:30 The thing of it might be like falling in love, there's more to falling in love than like, wow, that was one really great night, right? You know you're in love when it's like, holy shit, this sucks, but I'm still way into you. When you go the first time, you're like, this is weird, but I kind of want to stay.
Starting point is 00:01:47 When it's like, you know, the whole date fell apart and the car broke down, and you're being rained on, and And you can't find any place to eat, but you're still having a good time. That's when you know it's right. And you know what? This is continuing the fine tradition of off-brand college football providers who make you look at the sport and say, damn, I kind of want to get inside those sweatpants.
Starting point is 00:02:11 You know, you know what the CW stands for, right? That's what I think about when I think about these specific football teams. That is right. CW stands for Casey Weldon because the nose are undefeated baby. Let's listen It's always gray sweatpants season my eyes are up here man I
Starting point is 00:02:31 I love I disagree I love that the knolls look fucking great and the rest of the ACC is just crumbling the 90s are so back the fucking sandcastle that they're standing atop this was every single year of the poppy palpit regime
Starting point is 00:02:50 fess is beating a bunch of nobody's and by the way doing it with fucking flare if you saw some of the passes jordan travis was like thrown into windows here holy crap jordan travis was on when keon called oh yeah he made a catch in this game that was the most casually cruel thing i've seen a receiver do this year like a little like one-handed little whoop excuse me yeah it was beautiful and and 90s fSU was perfectly awesome like it didn't matter that the ace is CCC was a trash fire, but it was, and it is. I think this FSU team is more fun to watch, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:29 That might be true. I think it depends on which of the FSU teams you pick from yesterday year, but yeah, there's a lot of fun to watch here, for sure. There is, by the way, this is the best rationale I've heard for taking assets from the Pact 12, because stranded assets from the Pact 12 wanted something that made them feel at home.
Starting point is 00:03:48 They're like, we want something that's kind of like ramshackle and it's like always kind of fun. falling apart but not real fall and falling apart like the pack 12 they're doing boho yeah they're like we want like a fixer upper that it's going to stay looking like a fixer upper you know something with some real patina aware on it but one that's not going to a car that'll work but is it worth stealing yeah exactly exactly one where the windows never really going to roll all the way up and the acc pulled up in that like you know police cruiser that they got on auction and they were like hey baby here's a here's a crowd vic with one door that
Starting point is 00:04:22 That's a different color. Calling our name. We know we need Mike Felder on the show tonight because this is telling me one thing. It's the Suck It on a Chili Dog song. Oh, boy. Please know. Please know. APC is Suck it on a Chili Dog.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Please know. Where do you want to? All right. So let's begin with the most of start with the CW game of the week. First, Spencer has to yell welcome. Fullcast after dark, for men. Welcome to the full cast after dark. Oh, psalms, good news.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Night bees. You're telling me you didn't have a 50-yard open field scramble by Haynes Ging on your bingo card. A piece of shit. So, Holly has requested that we start with the Georgia Tech, North Carolina box scores. Because it's fresh. Holly, what would you like to start with in it? Of the many options. Rushing yards.
Starting point is 00:05:43 All right. Georgia Tech, 348 rushing yards. Now, now. Now, new stat. second half rushing yards oh god i don't have that pulled up but i know it's a shit right let's look hang on let me bring you down a little bit more last quarter rushing yards um the most recent statistic i saw which was outdated because they got more than that was from brandon marcello who said they rushed for 246 of their 348 yards in the fourth quarter
Starting point is 00:06:16 that's so stupid that's so stupid they did this on defensive coordinator did they bamboozle here oh boy that would be Gene Chiznik Giznick Genith and Chisnick
Starting point is 00:06:30 According to one typo displayed on TV which you know typos are whatever but that one is a it sounds fun Also this happened on Paul Johnson Knight Yeah Paul was in the house in
Starting point is 00:06:41 In beautiful baggy khakis Is David Hill Buttering countercurs is the whole time. I can't believe I have to be in goddamn public people looking at me. But he got a show, he got to see exactly what he likes to see, which is no passes, just runs.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Happy birthday, Paul. Whatever that may be, I would never impinge your privacy like that. To give you a sense of what 246 Georgia Tech rushing yards look like compared to the rest of their season, in last week's lost the ball in Boston College. They ran for 248. And the only other time they've eclipsed this number was in there week to win over fcs south carolina state when they ran for 268 this is like i don't know how
Starting point is 00:07:24 i don't know how far back you have to go now i suspect it's into the paul johnson era to find all right here it is the last time georgia tech ran for 300 yards was in 2020 when they beat duke 5633 i mean yeah so so we should talk about you and see being asked. And in true form, because I know somebody's going to ask, in the postseason handshake with Brett Key,
Starting point is 00:07:54 Matt barely got like a double chest pat. Yeah. And he was out of there. He's going to have to draw on his reserves. Max had this. Max had it with this shit. Absolutely had it. Well, he's probably sick of Georgia Tech, given that this is what,
Starting point is 00:08:09 the third time in a row UNC's been ranked and lost to Georgia Tech. Yeah. The third year in a row. row. Yeah. I love traditions. I mean, Georgia Tech had a 10 point lead in this game with 11, 11 minutes to play. And then they just didn't score again. Yeah. That was their first lead. No. UNC. UNC led this. Sorry, UNC led it then. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. UNC blew the end, And UNC blew a 21-7 lead, and then they blew a 35-24 lead, and then they blew a 42-32 lead.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Everyone who looked at UNC at, you know, 4-0, 5-0 and thought, I don't really trust it. Yeah, you were right. You were right, yeah. That's always the right call to not trust. You know the unfortunate thing? I think some of it was built around like, wow, they beat, they like beat the shit out of South Carolina, and they did. and I have bad news for you. South Carolina is real bad this year.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Like beating them, as a Florida fan, I can tell you. Beating South Carolina doesn't mean shit. It doesn't mean you're that good. It really doesn't. Empty calories. It's still calories, brother. On Georgia Tech side, this from Bill Connolly. In the last four games, Georgia Tech is overachieved versus SP Plus
Starting point is 00:09:29 projections by 28.6 points, underachieved by 29.7, overachieved by 26.9 and underachieved by 24.4. My God. day at that time of sending was overachieving by 16.7. This is like watching somebody who can't control a boat just like
Starting point is 00:09:44 well because at one point if you're just randomly steering the boat you're going the right way. That's right you know what it's a you end up going straight most entertaining team in the country is all I'm seeing from these berserk fluctuations thank you for more than team that
Starting point is 00:10:01 can't control a boat that sounds like extremely our shit. It sounds extremely Georgia. Yeah by the way thank you for putting the image of powerboat captain brent key in my head who's like i got attack with the wind and you're like you don't have sales you don't even know you're talking about yeah yeah this is a lake um awesome game totally incredible product thank you georgia tech continue to be this way forever thank you acc thank you the acc saved today okay the cc was all that happened today the cw specifically continues to give us everything we're living for i'm excited
Starting point is 00:10:37 I'm excited because now Georgia Tech becomes an important point in Old Miss's argument for why they belong in the playoff conversation. Tech is 500 now, right? Therefore, this is a quality win. Georgia Tech is no shit. Old Miss's third best win of the year. Yeah, this is also, by the way. It's one of the SEC's best non-continent wins. It's going to be like, Georgia's going to need this shit, right? If they hadn't won the national title, they'd be like, you know what? You know what Florida's only revenge this year on Georgia is? We suck so bad.
Starting point is 00:11:16 We're tanking your strength of schedule. That's true. Oh, I'm pleased. I'm putting a picture there for everybody to click. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. This was also, by the way... He's so damp.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Also, if you are listening and you wonder, oh, what else do the ACC do today? kristoval has kneeled and been booed two weekends in a row and emerged this is a schick now yeah no it's the thing he's like oh oh you want me to kneel fine we're going to overtime fine two weeks in a row fuck you we'll kneel see how much you like i'm not i'm not saying we should i think we could do the entire show focusing on the ac c tonight truthfully most of it Especially because Cal, SMU, and Stanford were all interested. That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 00:12:12 That's right. Oh, yeah. Sorry. I wanted to get to the by reader request to get to one specific possession of Washington, Stanford. Okay. Yes. Well, just as a little sorbet after the ACC feast. Opening possession by Stanford given to us courtesy of longtime reader Lolo Finarski.
Starting point is 00:12:35 12 plays 18 yards 5 minutes and 53 seconds of game clock possession time punt perfect thank you stamford thank you welcome to the ACC yeah um so is this the time for me to ask if anyone watched uh cal USC sure buddy we did we did I don't I didn't because I listen we watched the last like six minutes I didn't have I didn't have I didn't have the pack 12 network until like this far i'm not getting it now that it's going out they should just give it to me can i tell you something right you know what i know what i watched i watched spencer pack our way into viewing the pack 12 network yes i have now seen the pack 12 network thanks to spencer's matrix manipulation we're australian in this house i have one question
Starting point is 00:13:28 about this game and and hi terrence i know you were there and i'm sorry that you were there is what happened at the end of the first half and the start of the second half really what happened yes okay please describe it for people who like me who didn't see it but will not understand it even when told them can we make terence a speaker because i would love to hear how they announced this in the building we can probably do that i have to figure that out you especially you start okay so the first half appeared to end like everybody's like okay first half is over and um then both teams left the field there was some hubbub during the half where somebody was like uh yeah there was there was a second left on the clock but but by this point i understand that the cal band was already on the field that is correct okay that is correct and yes and when a pack 12 band is on the field historically speaking you pretty much want to let them finish even if they're not supposed to be on there because that's what crazy shit happens um
Starting point is 00:14:34 So, Justin Wilcox hits the fucking roof, naturally, because he's like, can't you fucking count? I get it. I get it. Justin Wilcox was really heated this game for most of it, and he was completely justified every single time. He absolutely lost it because the reps were absolutely fucking incompetent. The fact 12 rules, absolutely rules, because you go to the judge and you say, I need relief judge, here's my motion, what do you say?
Starting point is 00:15:02 And they look at you and go, neon banana. and then turn into a mushroom that's that's that's pactual officiating always will be so commenter uh commenter brendan adams notes the uh the pack 12 network is the west coast cw yes only cow could appreciate this much kofa with their football so yeah yeah this is this was the trial starring justin wilcox um so both teams had to come back when both teams came back for the second half one second on the clock 10 Lynch came out for a 33-yard field goal attempt. You go, oh, well, that's funny.
Starting point is 00:15:40 This USC's kicker coming out. Ha-ha, he gets to take the kick. Justin Wilcox fucking iced him. Why not? You can't take that time out into the locker room because you've already been there. You already took it. This is the first time I've ever seen someone take a time out into the locker room from the first half. And come back out and use it.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Surprise. Yeah. I have retained my time manipulation. powers i so appreciate justin wilcox being like oh i see i'm an absurd oh fuck land okay cool i'm gonna be absurd oh fuck stupid oh yeah here i'll call a time out love it and then what happened he missed the fucking field goal he missed it yes yes morning just i found himself to be transformed to do a giant insect and was like you know what we are you know what you are dared to tangle with Kang the Conqueror and uh i will i will uh dude use my time shit on you yeah justin
Starting point is 00:16:41 wilcox evoke and found himself transformed into an enormous bear yeah that so we're not even on how this game ended or what was happening we've gotten to the end of the first goddamn half uh the the the bad shit would continue happening to poor Justin Wilcox who uh yeah he could he could only he could only out weird the pack 12 for so long the first half ending in the second half is pretty much the perfect end to the pack 12 after dark series it might be the end of cow football if cal just wanted to hang it up here and be like yep that's it it's lore accurate sorry sorry we broke the time space continue i've got to go now yeah it's lore accurate that cal ended on a fucked up note when they lost that's extremely cal lore accurate so uh cal ran for
Starting point is 00:17:32 for like two hundred and fifty yards in the first half uh jason you were sitting there with me until late in the fourth quarter how many did they run four in the second half there was one amazing thing that one of the announcers said cal has lost the ability to run i think it was yogi roth yeah and it was like it was it was so like it was a like it was a buff or something like they take it a poison like uh like cal is a spaceship and they have a system that is just malfunctioned Shields are down. Like when you get shot in the leg and fall out. Yeah, leg gone.
Starting point is 00:18:06 And after that, they would start to run the ball. And it was like, they would get to the line of scrimmage and bong. That's it. They have lost the ability to run. And it just lasted like that for about a quarter. And then they broke a big one because USC defense. Because the Grink was there. The Grink was totally there.
Starting point is 00:18:23 They finally regained the ability to run. Okay. Aha. We have, we have added Terrence to the chat. Long, long, long time EDSBS enthusiasts. Legend of Cal, Time Traveler himself. Charity Bowl legend also. I am not well.
Starting point is 00:18:46 First of all, did they ever clear that phalanx of USC students out from behind the bench? No, I was, but the USC students were very subdued through most of the second half. And then they were, you know, let's just say assholes at the very end. Rude. What, to go back to the question we asked and didn't let you answer, what explanation was given to the crowd of the time fuckery at the start of the second half? So USC completed a long pass down to the Cal 16 with either one or zero seconds left. And then...
Starting point is 00:19:26 Time is a human construct, yes. then the refs said the half is over so we said great you know we we dodged the bullet then the team tried to run off halfway the refs held them up for 20 seconds of conference and then let the teams go then halfway through um i think between the cow band and local rapper little piece appearance the uh the uh announcer comes on and and says, or I'm not sure it was the ref with the stadium announcer and said, there will be one untimed down to start the second half to finish the first half. God, I wish there had been a penalty on it.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Suffice to say, you know, I think every Pac-12 team has had issues with Pac-12 refs. So there was a lot of, we will not miss this. when we go to the ACC. Oh, it's going to be different. You're bringing it with you, pal. Well, I mean, is it the devil you know or the devil you don't? It's a different devil. I will say that.
Starting point is 00:20:41 It's a change of scenery. Yeah, well, I think we're sort of sick of the pack 12 refs, even though, you know, we're kind of sad to see the conference dissolve. So, I mean, I'm sure there's no conference that likes the refs. It's just a different version. of bad roughing. So there's a lot of insane back and forth in this game. It comes down to Cal scoring at the very end to make it 50 to 49. At that point, Justin Wilcox, hearing all of us yelling at the TV, opts to go for two. At that point, in case the refs have not messed with this
Starting point is 00:21:20 man's mind enough, Terrence, did you happen to see the two-point conversion? Did you have a clear of you of either receiver who was in the area well first um so you know we get lined up uh i you know look was i was right online with the cal um offense and just come sprinting down from you know wherever it was midfield to call a time out so after we got the first look at the usc defense so i thought we would switch up the formation or the play no we come out in the exact same formation. And then I saw us, you know, the USC defensive line collapsed our offense line, and our third string quarterback Mendoza rolls to the left, throws it towards the end zone.
Starting point is 00:22:15 And then I saw a tip, and then, you know, I just sort of collapsed in a heap of despair after that. So I didn't really see the end of the play. I just sort of saw the ball fluttering to the earth. Okay, that's good because two Cal receivers were also collapsing to the turf because they had USC guys all over them, just blatantly holding them. Yeah, yeah. Which is funny because we also ran Jane Coston's past interference offense for a single drive where we got three PI calls in a row, successfully. Well, maybe.
Starting point is 00:22:49 So we went sideline, sideline, sideline, and, you know, just gained 45 yards that way. Maybe Cal and USC will start next week with one untimed down against one another. People just keep doing this into the future forever. I may not recover from this. I may go. I think that's okay. You sound ready for a new conference, baby. I hopefully will beat the Boston colleges of the world.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I don't know. is pretty good now oh no sure that's five that's five and three boston college you're talking shit about watch out you should start with somebody a little easier like clemson i think our biggest issue is you know our star running back jaden ought uh really got his bell rung on a on a run and then we were down to our fourth string running back like everybody this type of year and he was one of the three fumbles. So, you know, you can't really win games when you fumble three times in a row. So I wasn't really concerned with the two-point conversion. Try or not try. We can't fumble three times in the fourth quarter to hope to win. That said, if anybody in listening
Starting point is 00:24:09 to this right now wasn't around for the 2008 housing market collapse or hasn't read anything or watched anything about it and you're like, what was that? USC's five and one in the pack 12. That's the best way for me to explain what the housing market collapse was. In the same way that that is true, housing values were super high in 2007. That's what happened. Yeah, I don't, you know, I was much more impressed with Pennix when he was tearing us apart. Caleb threw like I think eight or nine NFL quality throws, but he was pretty, I don't know, didn't look like the number one draft pick for most of the game, except for some of the really nice 30-yard throws that went right into the wide receivers basket. I don't think any of these quarterbacks
Starting point is 00:25:00 want to go high in the draft. And I think that's fine. Yeah, notice, by the way, we all said about three, four weeks ago, like, yeah, man, it's Caleb Williams and Drake May. Guess what they decided to start to it. Losing. That's right. Like Washington didn't look great against Stanford today, although Stanford is, I think Stanford is embracing its ACC destiny early. Which as Mike Felder, as pointed out, has been a terrible, a terrible trial for NFL, for NFL draft casuals, because this year you have, I like Caleb Williams, and I like Drake May guys, and there's no other type of guys, and now they're both out of options. Bo Nix going first of the Chicago Bears. The thing is, with the bears having two picks in the top two or three, you can just say the bears take both of them, and then we're, then there. And then combine that.
Starting point is 00:25:51 We've solved the problem. You're share bears. Yeah. I'm sorry for my sports as well. Terrence, thank you for being a share bear about your Cal game experience.
Starting point is 00:26:01 We really appreciate you reliving that trauma and value it. So thank you for sharing it for the benefit of the edification of all and go bears. We value your trauma. I'm ready for the ACC. I'm ready for the ACC.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Man, that's the saddest thing you said. I'm going to have to talk to your therapist. I'm ready for the gray hair. Havens. Right. Terrence, we're going to kick you out of the studio now, but it's not because we don't love you. Thanks, buddy.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Go Bears. Hey, you think they'll put Cal Stanford on the CW? No. God. That would be great. No? No. That's got ACC network written all over it.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Not enough sexual content. Do you think this, the CW will move up in the depth chart by then as well? CW stands for Cal wins! You know, I thought we were all going to be in life. Life on Kansas fans, and that was going to be funny for a number of reasons, but life on Cal fans. We will get, listen, we will get to that, although that was, that had some ACC vibes as well, but it is time to talk about NC State Clemson, isn't it not? It usually is.
Starting point is 00:27:04 I think it's mostly TWU game of the game of the week. Well, why what happened? Uh, what happened is if you look at the ACC standings, which again, have no divisions this year, Clemson is above Pitt, UVA, Wake Forest, Syracuse, and that's it. Two and two NC State, two and two Boston College, two and two Miami, two and two Duke, all above Clemson, who sits at two and four after six games of conference play. Mind you, this was a preseason top ten team. And it felt like, it felt like lots of Clemson, NC, State games in that it was like, oh, NC State is doing well, that probably won't stay true.
Starting point is 00:27:52 And it didn't stay true, but it just didn't matter because they held, I think it was on Clemson's last three drives. Clemson only scored three points total. And that doesn't win when you're down 21 to start. I'm sorry, when you're down 17 to start. I was just looking ahead at Clemson's schedule. And like, you know, we can come back to this game. But jumping ahead, they have to play Notre Dame next, which scored about 7 million points against Pitt today.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Then they have to play Georgia Tech, which is apparently, so that that'll be an... And that'll be on a Georgia Tech win week, too. Yeah, that's two weeks from now. You're not getting them on Georgia Tech loss. Is this a W or an L week, Ryan? Yeah, yeah. And then you got... They're like that silly cart you see on train tracks that goes up down, up down.
Starting point is 00:28:41 You got UNC, you'll be at them to stuck. And then you have just here, then you're rolling into South Carolina with only five wins. All right. So Clemson, South Carolina is for bowl eligibility. That, we can't put that game on television. We can't. There might be a fight beforehand that gets the game canceled. I can't.
Starting point is 00:29:01 You're thinking about this game in terms of some horrendous Stephen King event that's a great psychic trauma to everybody who misses it. We don't float here. you know south carolina enters with nothing to play for other than keeping clemson out of bowl season oh i like and and what and clemson might enter with nothing to play for except south carolina out of keeping south carolina out of bull season that seems pretty easy because south carolina will south carolina is helping with that they're gonna help with that three or four wins by then but like with how far do you have to go back to win both of these teams were bad because you have at least 10 win Clemson all from 2011 all the way until today
Starting point is 00:29:47 in 2010 South Carolina was good in 2009 South Carolina was I believe good I'm double checking that as well no but but Clemson was ranked Clemson was still ranked going into that game even though they lost like this is a very rare thing all right here it is 2,000 eight seven and six clemson ends up beating a south carolina team that finished the year also seven and six that will be better than this yeah when was the fight year that was that was in the aughts that was like 2000 and i want to say 2005 2004 2004 yeah those were yeah those were uh six and four versus six six that is what we're aiming for here and the guy who this would still be worse than that because South Carolina is significantly worse than that.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Well, the nice part is that if they do a brawl, you don't have to worry about South Carolina's bowl eligibility. That's already been taken care of. So nothing to lose. I love that the wiki page for the brawl game in the info box, one of the main entries is referee, Doyle Jackson. It really gives it a fight feel, you know? Like, here's a night's tonight's a nice referee for this bout earle hebner like nc state nc state had nine first downs went three of 13 on third down and had 2002 total yards and still won by a touchdown this is this is a wildly inefficient set of numbers to get you a win over a clemson team in almost any year like even even you go back to the duke game
Starting point is 00:31:33 at the beginning of the year, and you're like, okay, a lot of weird shit happened, and Clemson was super inefficient in the red zone, and Duke Duke did some stuff really well. NC State just sort of like, they hit some big plays, they hit one really nice play for a 72-yard touchdown, and they got some big sacks when they needed to, and that's, man, this is a weird, weird time for clemson this is it's i feel bad for all the year for the last couple years when it's been like oh 10 win clemson they stick nope this is what it looks like when clemson stinks one more uh one more schedule note just looking at georgia tech's remaining opponents uh virginia clemson and syracuse that uh three of the bottom five ac c teams so georgia tech could uh could finish what six and two
Starting point is 00:32:31 conference it might be going to the conference oh hey hey hey don't take that from virginia tech virginia tech is in the driver's seat right they will they will need as well to let's see louisville boston college into state virginia slightly more challenging so louisville virginia tech could be for that spot that's next week right yeah that is by the way virginia tech fresh off beating that ass against syracuse you say oh man syracuse's bud deno's going to get fired hey hey hey hey Hey, hey, hey, calories or calories. We returned to this theme. One thing about the NC State game we did not mention is that Dave Doran afterwards,
Starting point is 00:33:06 or as Joe Ovee's calls him. Just pause, let us get all our giggles out. Yeah, as Joe Ovis calls him, Diamond Dave Doran. The normally taciturned. Dirtbag Dave Doran. Turnbag Dave Doran with the strap and hand in the belt. on his shoulder said no non-strapping hands they're both strapping hands in uh in on game day where steve smith was a celebrity picker for the university of utah where he played football uh the
Starting point is 00:33:40 former carolina panthers wide receiver made a an offhand remark about when he was making picks about nc state being a basketball school as we know not even that he just said nc he said clemson's not as good as we're used to them being but nc state is looking ahead to basketball season, which like, based on recent results, a very ugly 1310 loss to Louisville, a 4841 win over Marshall, which like, you shouldn't give up 41 points to Marshall if it's a good year, but even though Marshall's not bad this year. And then they just got hammered by Duke 243. Like, it wasn't, on its face, it wasn't like a ridiculous comment. But Dave Dorden didn't think, didn't think so. There's disrespecting them through our hills and he's going to mine it. Continuing the trend of this. season, which is that anyone who says anything must be called out after your team wins. Everything is personal.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Everything must be, you know, everyone must pretend their Dion. Where's Pellas Diller? Where's she at? But Dave, Dave Doren, Dave Dorn specifically said, tell Steve Smith he can kiss my ass. Tell Steve Smith in the studio. On television.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Hey, hey, CW. Hey, CW. Hey, Steve Smith. Just James Bates. Then he was like, oh, I might die, but this feels great. And they went back to, after he said that, you heard whoever is calling the game, and they said, well, this is the CW. Steve Smith isn't here.
Starting point is 00:35:12 I'll take a message for him in case he stops by. If we ever meet Steve Smith, we will tell him. If I ever meet Steve Smith, I'm not mentioning shit about it. That's right. I'm saying, hello, sir. So this was also the game where Dave Doran tied Earl Edwards for the most wins. as an NC state coach and did it in like 40 fewer games as well and i think that's why he was feeling myself he's like i'm king of nc state mountain you fucking fight me steve smith
Starting point is 00:35:40 god feels ryan's self why not i think he's earned it he has earned ryan i agree talk your ship claim your claim your free ryan we have offered you up if day dora comes to my house and punches me in the mouth i'm taking this up with you Holly. Oh, I thought you meant as like a concubine. I don't want to be a concubine. We've talked about this. Benefits. But he's won a lot of games. He's won a lot of games.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Yeah. Hi, I'm a Raleigh concubine. Not the first and not the last, so. When you say it like that, listen, it's known as the triangle. That sounds like, that sounds like they're about that business. In C. State, I love me. You're still my playoff pick. There is not a lease. There is not a leased. there is a less central town in this country yeah i i love that dave doran evidently thinks there's just
Starting point is 00:36:34 a tv tube you holler into that goes back to the studio that all of it tv people in there you tell that man in the television like how have we gotten from tell like tell loo holz he's a son of a bitch to steve smith like we're going we're going way it's only week nine we're going way too. I feel like we're going to get to the end of the season and Pat Narduzi is going to be like, I'm going to fight God. You tell him to come down here. I got God. I got God by like, he fought, he fought at least some of God's assistance today. Pat Narduzzi is picking some fights. Let's stay in the ACC. After a tough loss to God, after a tough loss to Catholic God. After a tough loss to a team that claims to have exclusive ownership of God by about 7,000 points. Pat and Arduzzi then,
Starting point is 00:37:28 according to a portion of the quote, said, well, we lost a lot of good players and we tried to replace them, but evidently, evidently we didn't. That wasn't the complete quote. There was another part of the quote where he said, like, and that's on me as a coach and blah, blah, blah, blah, but the portion of the quote that made it out onto Twitter was then quote tweeted by, I don't even know how many of his current players who like might have been in the locker room sharing this quote like oh word oh really right like oh well i guess we should have kept you know mark whipple because he was the one who called oh those plays at squared points that one year when we did that so uh things going really really really really well for the dues right now remember listen you can't spell pat and arduce
Starting point is 00:38:13 without trad new pizza it's so true that's true just remember pipp was wildly successful when pizza trad you win pit was wildly successful scored a bunch of points had a dynamic offense and produced a heisman winner and said ew gross yeah pat ardezzi was like never again that said like that said like the defense didn't show up at all either no i understand the offense is a mess but not even good at the good thing but my god they just got run and thrown over by Notre Dame. This means I got to go back and look at Wake Forest Pitt to see if this was like the Sam Hartman revenge game, right? Like, fuck you, Pat.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Let's sit around on a Sunday and watch Wake Forest Pit. Was it on the CW? I'm not watching it. Unfortunately, no. And fuck it. That's right. That's right. I still can't believe this Georgia Tech score.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Oh, my God. 224 yards at the fourth quarter on the ground. Currently underway, by the way. A little update. Arizona 13, Oregon State 10. Ew, those aren't ACCC teams. No. We're not talking.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Hey, if we're going to talk Big 12, it's time to talk Kansas beating Oklahoma. Lifelong fans. Kansas as a basketball school is an ACC school. Okay, that's fair. So we're allowed to discuss them. As a person who married into Kansas Jayhawks fandom and bought a home field Kansas shirt today.
Starting point is 00:39:50 So the fucking Aloha Bowl, Kansas shirt with palm trees on it. Kansas palm trees, folks. So Oklahoma, Kansas is an SEC-ACC rivalry. Yes. Okay. At late in this game, it was great. You had Kansas Jayhawks fans chanting SEC to mock Oklahoma fans. Imagine explaining that to you yourself five years ago.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Even like three years ago, you wouldn't understand it. Like, explain any part of it. Like, fans are mocking Oklahoma fans. Why? Are they winning or something? The SEC champion sport history. It's also like, and it wasn't the wrong decision. I want to make that very clear.
Starting point is 00:40:32 But watching Oklahoma let Kansas score the game-winning touchdown because they were confident that they were going to need time and otherwise Kansas was potentially just going to kick the game-winning field goal with no time left was just strange was just extremely strange to observe i get it i understand it i think they that's the thing they should have done all the same it still is extremely odd it's not a thing you're used to see i mean teams don't do that enough frankly yeah that's probably true i mean teams also shouldn't give up a 37 yard pass on fourth and six near midfield which is what oklahoma did right before that yeah to the bean i don't think that was intention
Starting point is 00:41:16 The bean kicked in his line, by the way. This is an incredible line for a winning. That's Jason Bean. Jason Bean. Is that like Jason Born and Mr. Bean combined? The first time I heard his name on being out. I thought it was, I thought his name was Jason Beans.
Starting point is 00:41:34 And for some reason, that's somewhat funnier. Yeah, I agree. So, some, beans. Go ahead. Read this, read this beautiful stat line. 15 for 32 for 218.
Starting point is 00:41:45 No. No TDs and two picks. Both, I believe, in the fourth quarter and potentially crippling. Oh, the second one was, the second one was terrible. It was like a pick on a screen pass. Yeah, it was bad. All part of the plan. But Kansas stood up on defense and bailed them out.
Starting point is 00:42:06 It's a Kansas bean screen full. I think the thing is scored too fast is a lie. Points are great. Go get them. Mm. Okay. especially in the big 12 uh this is this is to to put everything into the just to put everything into the framework lance live pole is a a fucking sorcerer kansas is six and two after
Starting point is 00:42:28 after not too recently ago being uh garbage and and not just like bad just like being an an automatic win for everyone on the schedule this is for over a decade for over a decade yeah the last this is so this is the second year in a row that there they'll be bowl eligible and they haven't done that since 2007 and 2008 yeah and this is not like last year where they were just where they were like sliding into bowl season this is like they're they're they're they're they're you know if a couple things break they're in contention in this conference like this is this is what one of those things breaking was oklahoma taking a loss well yeah I mean a couple more so break but yeah that's a good break so far I mean if you
Starting point is 00:43:16 think the ACC is weird right now the big the big 12 standings are we have one two three four five teams at four and one Oklahoma Iowa State Oklahoma State Texas and Kansas State Iowa State and Oklahoma State started the season looking absolutely dead and now they are potentially like I that's potentially a big 12 championship game between the two of them In the NFL, there is no margin for error. One mistake can change the outcome of the game. Science proves quality sleep can help boost reaction time, recovery time, and overall athletic
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Starting point is 00:44:55 that is by the way the entire state of Kansas today was on fire because well you know sometimes you just phone it in sometimes you just you know crack a 40 there sitting on the sideline ask your players to do their job they won't I believe you mean give up 40
Starting point is 00:45:14 you give up yeah crack of 40 crack of 40 in so many ways a 40 was consumed by both dana holkerson 40 for me 40 for you for you it's called a deal is that houston hail married still the only win a new big 12 member has over a legacy back big 12 member am i am i correct in that uh i mean UCF has no has no conference ones okay that's the other one that's right okay because they're like Cincinnati is having a terrible time UCF looks not competitive at like I don't know man we might by the way we might really skip the Scott Satterfield half redemption tour that usually happens at this point in the season might just fast forward past that point in the business cycle
Starting point is 00:46:06 they're very finally forget how to get rid of this guy yeah agitating for new job Now that you said that, it's time for the patented Satterfield winning streak. They've lost six in a row. You know the last team Cincinnati beat? Pitt in week two. Yikes. Yeah. It's good for.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Yeah. I don't think Luke Fickle left the covered bear is really going to go as a selling point here. I really don't, especially when you just came, especially when your hiring was greeted with like huh yeah with him the toolman taylor sounds less power i'm scott the tool satirfield yeah this is this is this is looking nothing but bad it's looking you know what it's not looking bad for dana because i'm pretty sure he's like Shit, burn the shit for the insurance money.
Starting point is 00:47:10 I don't give a fuck. Mr. I can't be fired. Yeah, I can't be fired. I think Tillman has enough going on right now, just guessing. That's fair. What other, have we messed any ACC games? Louisville just destroyed Duke. Just absolutely destroyed Duke.
Starting point is 00:47:27 No, I can hurt my feelings. What? What's wrong with Louisville? Duke football. I know, but Louisville's, like, if you're going to get... I said the game hurt my feelings. feeling. Oh, okay, okay. But you hurt me in other ways. I'm sorry. You made me Dave Doran's concubine. How am I the bad guy? That is a prestigious position. It's a competitive position.
Starting point is 00:47:50 I saw somebody today on, uh, I saw somebody today on Twitter who said Dave Doran looks like he benches 405 in his garage and flip-flops. Hold on. Does two reps and he's like, I'm out. kids out of the way showing them how it's done and leaving yeah you can take us the school though no no i just did that's all the class we need hey um i just happen to notice speaking of acc teams ryan uh i happen to notice your blurb on stream yard here for those who can't see it um it says spirit chair comma maryland they need some spirit maryland you you uh boy you lost northwestern maryland that's just the thing that happens what did you say to me earlier today that uh or no wait it was jason who said that oh you said something short and perfect about how thank you
Starting point is 00:49:01 that fitzgerald may have may have made the northwestern job seem harder than it was It's evidently pretty easy. Yeah, I mean, for years, it was like, my God, look at what he's doing. Oh, oh, he does, he gets so much out of that place. And he leaves and they're four and four. Yeah. And it's, it's, and they were like absolute garbage ass last year, but it turns out it was just him that was garbage ass. They are also doing the Georgia Tech thing where they're going loss win, loss win, loss win, loss win.
Starting point is 00:49:32 So they're going to lose to Iowa, beat Wisconsin, lose to Purdue, and beat Illinois. which that all seems possible frankly yeah and then they're bowling yeah this team that was like i mean you want to talk about written off like this is this is the most written off team coming into the season and then it turns out uh no it was just the weird guy in the shorts who was holding them back in all of their wins they have scored i'm sorry no in the howard when they didn't do this but in in their three fbs wins they have scored at least 33 points and that seems like extremely a northwestern yes northwestern was sort of like uh fancy Iowa for a little bit yes it was petty for Iowa not even petty for Iowa like sharp image Iowa yeah like petty
Starting point is 00:50:21 force yeah like airport uh I think I would call him like little Iowa oh okay they're gonna go to what's like the version of like an owlet an Iolet yeah Iolet yeah I'llet yeah an iotwa yeah um so let's see i'm trying to see any acc games we haven't discussed yet um so south carolina we didn't really touch on that's an accrolyness the only other ac c school they lost to texasanem in a very normal game super normal nothing weird about it like how i don't i still don't understand how texasanem and south carolina just played a normal game yeah that's how that's how bad south carolina is that like when you add is that like when you add is that like when you Multiply negative numbers.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Mm-hmm. Okay. South Carolina lost to Florida, and they played a normal game against A&M. They're sick. They don't feel well. What's wrong. So, like, yeah, Aggies, did you watch this game? Like, what's the catch?
Starting point is 00:51:22 Yeah, the interview, like, in case you want to know whether Shane Beamer knows what's happening to his team, every single interview is him going, Spencer Rattler's doing a lot of really good stuff out there. We just need somebody to step up. Somebody, anybody, anybody, anybody. one of you motherfuckers. Like he's shouting through time. Please.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Help me, Obi-Wan, Konobi. No, like he's in the room at the end of Interstellar, just tapping out little dust signals of like, recruit a wide-out. Recruit a wide-out. South Carolina's got wide-out. That's not the problem. Recruit one linemen. The way he talks about his players is basically like, we are who we are, man.
Starting point is 00:52:05 me saying mean stuff isn't going to make anyone turn into anyone else so like it's it's very opposite of narduzzi yeah he's pat narduzzi with therapy no listen he's he's opposite of pat narduzzi he's second he's second semester dad i don't know if you're familiar like first semester dad is and i'm familiar with this because i do this first semester dad is okay listen we're going to do all of our homework everybody's going to be in bed and we're going to be here and second semester dad is like i need you to just please motivate yourself please do one thing by yourself so yeah y'all got this i know you do holy christ i'm so tired yeah i do have one question about this game which i only saw the tail end of but this is what the play-by-play sequence says on
Starting point is 00:52:45 ESPN so it could be wrong um at the on on the very last drive that texas an m had they started at the south carolina 22 because they recovered a fumble and it says they called two runs and then they called a timeout. I'm guessing that's wrong, and I'm guessing South Carolina was actually the one calling timeout, but maybe they didn't have any at that point. And then on fourth and three, with 21 seconds left at the South Carolina 15,
Starting point is 00:53:18 they ran the ball again for five yards. Like, they converted on fourth down, and I don't understand why that happened. If anyone understands this, please leave a comment. They were up 13. They didn't need these. they didn't meet uh yeah like that's all just confusing there was there were a couple it was not i will say this that's a good word for today there were some thrilling games and some interesting
Starting point is 00:53:43 things but on the whole everything and then there was penn state indiana we saw it pen state hey penn state i tried really hard to explain that maybe james franklin wasn't a piece of shit when when spencer went on his tirade during the regular show last week I didn't have to do that. I don't get paid extra for doing that. Nobody thanked me for doing that. Then you fart around and almost lose the Indiana. How fucking dare you Penn State.
Starting point is 00:54:10 This is a normal Indiana game, though. It was a, no, this is, this is every Indiana game against the top 10th. This year? Not this year. Of the past decade plus. How's this? They played a classic today. They would, they've, they've been doing their new.
Starting point is 00:54:24 They've been doing their new stuff lately and people weren't really feeling it. This is the closest game that they have had against a big 10. opponent all year this year sure they've played a lot this year this year this is every indiana game against the top 10 team of the past decade or so this game has happened over and over and over and over once a year twice a year counterpoint the number of points illinois are indiana scored against penn state in this game in four quarters of this game was 24 the number of points that Indiana scored against Akron in four quarters was 17 yeah is is Akron a top 10 team maybe in your opinion yeah maybe I was gonna say well if they were
Starting point is 00:55:12 then Indiana would have barely lost to them after leading them at halftime because that's what Indiana does against every top 10 team fucking Penn State yeah so you need to know yeah this is this is uh the key at 256 left in the fourth Penn State gets the ball back and it's tied 2424. In three plays, they move 78 yards, including a 57-yard bomb because, oh, look, Penn State can throw the ball down the fucking field. And they complete it for a TD and pull away by one score. But, you know, it's cool.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Indiana's got a minute 46. We can see some of that nine-windiana magic comeback. Come on. Play a classic here, all right? And Indiana gets sacked for a safety at, yeah. Now you might notice, by the way, that's first and ten at the Indiana 25, and Brendan Sorsby was sacked for a safety. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Yeah, Indiana did not lose this game. They imploded. Okay, like the Coast Guard lost contact with them quick. Hey, nobody looked directly at it. was speaking of which Oregon you good or wait Oregon or Oregon State Oregon State because because Oregon was very good Oregon was superb state team I'm looking at right now yeah Oregon Oregon State listen again it's in Arizona it's late yeah it's not a canon event to be clear I love that Arizona keeps doing this this is yeah yeah yeah this is DLC and whenever you play in
Starting point is 00:56:49 Arizona it's pack 12 DLC yeah if you try to load this without the mods it'll you won't achievements won't be eligible. Never play in the Arizona level. It probably won't save, right? Arizona State beat Wazoo by 11 today. Yeah, this Arizona shit's not real. It's a big win for Kenny Dillingham, though. Like, congratulations
Starting point is 00:57:09 to all of our Arizona state people. That's a good shit. Congratulations. Did we, let's see, did you see any of Washington Stanford? Yes. I saw Stanford drop a easy
Starting point is 00:57:26 trick play fourth and two conversion to effectively lose the game after they picked off Washington in the end zone when they were down what is it two points I think yeah I'm not Stanford gradually improving I mean I'm not saying like oh it around no yeah coming along yeah I mean they had nearly 500 yards of offense I mean does the let's see does the fact 12 have any like actually bad teams i don't think so um i mean utahs just run out of players you know like that's you could you can only you can only spin so many plates before you start losing them i with with due respect to our friend terence cow might be actually bad i just think usc is also bad yeah USC is stealthy bad cal entered the day 64th in the computer composite and
Starting point is 00:58:18 then dumped about a million points on usc granted those are adjusted for us see but yeah hey holly i wanted to congratulate you on on an outstanding winning over kentucky oh god bless long covid man i slept through the last three quarters of that thing what happened uh y'all won on a defensive just long enough to see two more injuries on two consecutive plays and grumbled and went back to sleep that was y'all won on a clock runoff yeah that's that is what happened that is what happened listen it's kentucky at night i'm just happy to get out alive take it take it happy to get out alive tennessee ran the ball really well in this game i will say i love i said this a couple weeks ago i and tonight it was more of a two-headed game i love that little three-headed
Starting point is 00:59:04 running back situation they've got going i cannot remember the last time i was this fond of a running back room um but they're they're doing great and they're running i mean y'all they had squirrel white out there blocking tonight his name is squirrel he's not large like they are the the guys who remain are blocking their asses off uh and i think that is lovely and it's kentucky i'm just glad to escape alive um i heard there was this is i don't generally think that uh i don't generally think that the c has has worse refs than other than other conferences we've talked in past years how we thought the SEC was actually getting away pretty cleanly all things considered because there were
Starting point is 00:59:49 fewer refs in the conference whose names we knew this new crop of SEC reps after the last ones retired they're all kind of funny looking and they have some real weird ideas about holding just as a group and West Rucker said this earlier tonight if if and I holding calls are unevenly distributed and always will be but if Josh Hyple doesn't get a holding call to go his way I'm concerned his head may explode Mars attack style on the sideline.
Starting point is 01:00:18 I didn't see this. That'd be a huge explosion, too, because he got big old walking. Molly got into the medical ketamine. No, motherfucker, I'm sick. I would love the medical. Can I tell you something? My dog, okay, listen. All ketamine is medical.
Starting point is 01:00:33 No, no, no, listen. My GP actually recommended that I try ketamine. Like, it's being, it's being recommended to treat some long COVID symptoms. But the website he sent me to, which is allegedly another doctor is like the guy's website name is like magical doctor g.com or something like nope that's a cop anyway it'll be fun cops have good shit the the banger game of the day i would argue
Starting point is 01:01:03 was and i didn't watch that much of it unfortunately was memphis north texas oh yes a game where uh i want to get this right Memphis jumped out to a 31-7 lead and then found themselves with less than a minute to play down 42-38 and still managed to win with a 35-second 75-yard touchdown drive. Coach Hall, can you talk about what an up-and-down day for your team? How do you motivate these guys to keep going after this setback? Well, you just got to say this, that it was a good gig. we had some good jams the crowd was into it
Starting point is 01:01:45 at the end the encore didn't go well so really we're just gonna we're just gonna go back and you know jam a little bit and sort of iron out the kinks that that's really how you keep them motivated you just go hey man you know we'll just we'll just get back to the studio thank you prod rocker 630 for suggesting our new sponsor totally legal ketamine dot com Memphis had 600 yards in this game and north Texas had 5991 Now that's football. It's fucking perfect.
Starting point is 01:02:16 North Texas SMU coming up soon, folks. SMU, which dropped, was it an even? 69. Yeah, 69 10 on Hulsa today. Yeah. Good Lord. After 55 on 10th. This is SMU's second 69 of the year.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Is it? I'm afraid of scoring totals, yes. This is more than a trend. Yeah, I see what you're going. for here. Yeah. Trent did like and 10 of course is the masturbation number. Maybe it's 5.
Starting point is 01:02:51 So 10 is masturbating twice? Yeah, I guess. High five. Okay. Low 5. It sounds very low 5. Typically. You might have an inversion. I'm on an inversion table, yeah. It's fine.
Starting point is 01:03:06 I like when the blood rushes to my other head. It's five and a half, and that's totally average. See if I can get it done before I pass out. I like the race against time element here. It's good. For curry. Your body is an hourglass.
Starting point is 01:03:29 I'm fading fast. For various reasons, I didn't watch Ohio State, Wisconsin, and I feel like Ohio State probably appreciates that. Yeah, yeah, they don't want anybody to notice. Okay, yeah. Cool. It wasn't a bad performance. I mean, it was, you know, it took them a while to find the end zone. Sounds like something I'll have to investigate.
Starting point is 01:03:53 But, yeah, I mean, again, Ohio State's defense, as an apparent Ohio State propagandist, that defense, don't look at the offense, that defense. The offense played fine, too, just three turnovers. Yeah, okay, yeah, I think you're right. I was going to say, like, I don't know if they've played any awesome offenses, but, But Notre Dame can be very good on offense. And Penn State kind of has an offense. I don't know. The Wisconsin offense I'm not totally sold on,
Starting point is 01:04:19 especially because Braille and Allen got hurt and this game didn't play in the second half. Yeah, I've been holding anybody to 10, we'll take it for me and my beloved Buckeyes. That's fine. And you know what? The next three games are not going to test this theory much. Rutgers, Michigan State, and Minnesota.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Oh, man, the defense is going to look so good. Boy, I'm going to test something. Yeah. It's going to test PJ flexibility to motivate his team like the professional he is. Not your boss. I don't even want to know. Okay. Hey, let's talk about the cocktail party.
Starting point is 01:04:53 All right, sure. Yeah. The better team won by a lot. Tadda. This is the most boring non-eventful cocktail party. Yeah, that's fine. I've ever heard of. It's fine.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Florida didn't get shut out and scored a number of points that when you look back at it'll be fine. That's it. Moving on. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, we're on to whatever next week is. It's not LSU. Who do we play next week? Close.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Close. I think it's Missouri next week? Also close. Yeah, we can't all be playing Missouri next week. So you've got it bracketed. Okay. Zero in. It's Arkansas.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Arkansas. Oh, God. Oh, cunk. You're fine. Shut up. No, we're fine. I'm just like. You're going to listen to poor mouth on your team against Arkansas all week.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Arkansas are going to shit the bet against Arkansas. So after Arkansas, you got LSU and Mizzou in Florida State. In the face. It's fine. Are you going to make a bowl? You're five and three. I don't know. Hey, Florida made a bowl last year and it wasn't fun.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Sometimes it's not a good thing. Yeah, fuck that shit. Proud has a proud history in the Birmingham. Like, the thing about making a bowl is then you have to go play it. Yeah, that sucks. Mm-hmm. I mean, like, I think. it's it's when you're on that that five and six line you're not going to go to a good
Starting point is 01:06:17 bowl no and you might get paired up with a team that's super excited to make a yeah you're gonna face some nine and three team from the AAC or whatever that really wants to claim a quote unquote power conference win your Florida's gonna lose the Georgia Tech in a bowl game is what's gonna have right oh wait wait is it though because of off weeks do those count I think they do. It depends on what it's scheduled. Their bi-week will factor in, which means that'll throw the whole thing off as well.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Fuck, fuck. Wait, what if you have players involved in very, are there senior bowls of any kind of between here and there? Maybe. Yeah, there's usually like a bowl week competition. Like who can eat the most yogurt and whatever. Right. Who can.
Starting point is 01:07:02 What is this disgusting competition? Who can eat the most yogurt? The fucking yogurt bowl, you know. Can we combine us with the Texas Bowl and create the yogurt rodeo? All right, we're going to find out who can give gronk the most kisses in the L.A. bowl. It's me. It's me. Not you. Because Dave Doran has plans for you.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Oh, man. He's going to give me to Steve Smith as a present. My little onion blossom. I've never felt so disrespectful. I've been doing this show a long time. The joke wouldn't work. think that's true but a lot of disrespect too but this get on hot and we'll get unyoked and we'll find out we do also have a very excellent game going on in the mountain west right now Fresno
Starting point is 01:07:54 State leading UNLV 2117 both of these teams six and one right now and the winner probably should be ranked while somebody else should not you can pick who the somebody else is not JMU who won today although it was close sadly Jamie won't be ranked in the CFP ring rankings but the fucking haters abide actually i got pulled into like a uh an internal uh jm u twitter war yesterday i don't know how exactly people to do that are they yeah yeah it was it was like i don't even know what started it but i was in a twitter canoe about some jm u fans that were very mad at one another for i still don't know what and i hope they worked it out wait there are unhappy jm u fans right now i i i i yeah i don't know but they're like we should we should be more
Starting point is 01:08:49 awesome i think it's more about like how how how angry and how uh oh how how how how hard we should be fighting the powers that be for not should we be storming indianapolis for this injustice not about federalism no no not to my knowledge boring could be though we should tell them we should just person we don't like and be like that's the NCAA's offices you guys go beat him up once you ask for Steve we hate Steve you know this is swatting right no did I just invent something no surely no one thought of this before didn't didn't invent anything you could just go to the NCAA's headquarters that's fine it's fine oh is Nebraska good now oh Nebraska's fine now it's pretty funny if they are so yeah they're five and three which is
Starting point is 01:09:40 It's not bad. They're five and three and their remaining schedule, their remaining schedule is Michigan State, Maryland, Wisconsin, Iowa. Nebraska last went to a bowl game when? 2016. It has been four, five, six. This is year seven without a bowl game and like they're almost certainly going to get there. Let me put it this way. If they don't win one of these last four games, if frankly,
Starting point is 01:10:10 if they don't beat michigan state next week something very catastrophic has happened has happened down the stretch yeah maxed that's like pretty i mean that's pretty good yeah that's pretty good for matt rule's first year right yeah yeah oh that's outstanding consider that's better than any year scott frost had any of them yeah with all the support love and care in the world it's a better record yeah they're i mean one of one of those like insanely unlucky frost teams might have been better at football but not at winning games to the extent that these two things are yeah yeah yeah it's a great first year yeah i think it was the 2021 team that was like one of quite possibly the most cursed team in the history of college football yes that's the
Starting point is 01:11:03 team that lost like every game by four points or some shit scott frost is still so mad in his bunker somewhere. I didn't realize Lutheran God was that spicy. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, one score losses, Zager. And the other was by nine. And a 49 point win over Northwestern. Who now just finds it easy to be good. Yeah, it's no problem.
Starting point is 01:11:30 All you have to do is get rid of Pat Fitzgerald. Yeah. That's like, Pat's like, I hope they're doing this for me. And they're coming in after every win being like, hey man, it's crazy. man it's great we've always been this way all you have to do is abolish one cop um on the flip side is baler bad it's pretty bad baler bad what happened there okay yeah no what happened there um so there is theory that uh joey maguire took all the recruiting magic with him to texas tech because like i i don't think that dave miranda forgot how to call plays that doesn't super like
Starting point is 01:12:07 Tech is not great, though. No, but they have had a series of terrible injuries at the quarterback position in elsewhere. So I believe there is, it's a little more understandable why they're bad. With Baylor, I think that's what I have heard. That generally, like when you're like, man, what is the power outage here? It's that the recruiting pipeline and the people who are starting to show up now are a different type of recruit than the one they were getting when Mr. McGuire was associated with the program. And in Texas, in state, that matters a whole hell of a lot.
Starting point is 01:12:44 I wanted to say a quick prayer for Sam Houston. God. Oh, my God. Every week closer and closer. Fuck me. He's dead. Okay. That's why I'm praying for.
Starting point is 01:12:58 Who knows where he is? Who knows where he is? Yeah. But no, this is Sam Houston who has lost. many games, four games, five games by a single score, including a recent pairing of the 3327 loss to Florida International and this week's loss to UTEP 37 to 34. They are currently the Kings of Pain. It's not just that they're by a single score. Like, Utep scored the game-winning field goal with three seconds left. Yeah. Yeah. Like these all keep
Starting point is 01:13:35 happening there are two overtime games in here it's just all it always happens in the stupidest way that like jacksonville state i'm pretty sure they were leading until jacksonville state made some crazy drive to tie the game and send into overtime like yeah it gets worse it gets worse by the week but i have the get right game for you their next opponent is an fcs team a two and five fcs team that is intentionally withholding players redshirting in advance of an FBS come-up season. We have a tanking FCS team
Starting point is 01:14:11 coming to town, the Kennesaw State Owls. So Sam Houston, your W is on its way. What if Kennesaw State has been charging up just for this name? I will feel pretty guilty. Sam just seems like a guy who would fight a bunch of owls. If they had the plan on
Starting point is 01:14:27 but they saw like, oh, and eight, Sam Houston, and they were like, not this week, motherfucker. Nope. Nope, not us. We're a fuck. up all the eligibility for no reason for nothing for nothing because we don't want to be the first win for sam houston no sir not us the line is drawn here uh air force remains undefeated on course for uh maybe whoever wins this unelv fresno game uh could be a hell of a mountain west title game with they they can win the commander-in-chiefs trophy next week against an army team
Starting point is 01:15:02 that did not look very good. The AAC's Army, which then lost to UMass. Yeah. Yeah, Air Force is having a kick-ass year. Without, as Spencer pointed out, I think on last week's show, without actually doing anything super different? No, this is just a really good version of an Air Force team that's been about the same for like 12 years.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Yeah. And like so impervious, like there's so many changes that should be completely disqualifying for Air Force. But, you know, all the changes that everyone has had to deal with are hardest for, you know, for the military schools. In addition to the rules changing, like, how the option is blocked. I think the one difference is the defense is quite good this year. Like, going into this week, they were 29th in F-plus. Army and Navy are nowhere near that. And, like, the defense was good last year as well. But, like, I, I think. think that is the thing that has helped them weather some of the difficulties that army and
Starting point is 01:16:07 when you have that side of the ball locked down so well it feels like you can smooth around some of those edges yeah yeah they're really good and um they could be uh it could be a real handful for whoever gets them uh in a uh in a new year six months if they make it you and see why would unc Why would you in sneakie hit to play Air Force in a pole? Do you want to see Gene Chisick defend that? I'd like to see him defend something after. I'm a bad person, and that's what I want to see. It would be pretty good.
Starting point is 01:16:47 You'd be like, yeah, Air Force had 2,000 rushing yards in a game. It was fucking wild. Just pointing to it going, all you have to do is count to three. just dive keep pitched it's that easy Eric Dickerson showed up and gave him a medal and everything it might be like uh
Starting point is 01:17:08 without actually mapping it out the um if a mountain west team is a near 16 maybe they get like the Paxville runner up or something like that okay um Jason not to reveal future uh plans that may or may not exist but how long until you start doing
Starting point is 01:17:27 your weekly bowl projections which sustain us all throughout the later season. Yeah, I have to copy off those. I haven't done them in a while. God damn it. I haven't. Maybe I'll do maybe I'll do like playoff New Year's six picks, but I haven't been doing like the bowl projection.
Starting point is 01:17:44 How will I know who's playing at the Bahamas Bowl in Charlotte? Yeah, we need this. We need a back. Sorry. See Stuart Mandel and Scott Docterman at theathletic.com. Okay, fine. Stuart Mandel's too rich to talk to me. Dude, big money, Mandel. I love you, too.
Starting point is 01:18:04 Hey, Auburn won an SEC game. Congrats. I can't be right. I would like to, here's what I'll say for Cal. By losing to USC, they successfully deprived us of Auburn having transitive win over USC. There is that. Also, I want to congratulate Mississippi State fans for again continuing their embrace of tradition by becoming a team that scores only like single digit.
Starting point is 01:18:33 Like just the Mississippi State offensive power outage an homage to those who came before in Starkville. Yeah, they lost the South Carolina this year. Imagine. Couldn't be my prestigious team. What a lynchpin, South Carolina is. tying us all together, keeping us grounded,
Starting point is 01:19:01 the foundation, the fundament of the South East team conference. A real Minto's a line of a team. So wait, is Coastal Carolina the best team in South Carolina now? Probably Furman, isn't that?
Starting point is 01:19:17 Or have we checked on Wofford? Furman's good. Have we checked on? Someone called him right now. Listen, I mean, they're short-nosed dogs. Their lifespan are unpredictable. I mean, Coastal's 6 and 3, and their losses are UCLA, who's good, Georgia State and Georgia Southern, which is fine.
Starting point is 01:19:39 Like, no terrible losses in there. They beat Jacksonville State, who's not bad. Furman's 7 and 1. Furman is 7 and 1. Okay, so let's get Furman and Coastal together and decide the state championship. Let's watch that instead of South Carolina Clemson. Again, I can't emphasize how curse that game will be. I would love this, especially in this age of conferences becoming just this giant mishmash.
Starting point is 01:20:02 I would love it if we spent, like, the first couple weeks of December, just deciding actual state championships. Yeah, let's do that. Yeah, like, fuck conferences. Let's high school this shit. Yeah. Chamberie? Because what's the one thing that everybody calls? I fucking love a jamboree.
Starting point is 01:20:19 What's the one thing everybody always totes through life? It's not like, you know, oh, I want an SEC championship. It's no, man, did you win state? Yeah. That's true. Yeah. Wyoming's like I guess it's us
Starting point is 01:20:30 we did it again boys congratulations Wyoming could invade air force or something you'll never suspect it Hawaii I'm damn proud of you yet again you beat BYU Hawaii Hawaii invents increasingly elaborate trophies to give themselves
Starting point is 01:20:47 I would that's the thing to do and LSU is just like well default way they're like hey there are other shut up no they're not there's one that literally calls itself Louisiana and i understand this is the whole thing there like you don't take that seriously do we take it very seriously jesus grant it's fine here let me talk to you about oh sorry we have coastal video coordinator in the chat who says we would beat the hell out of firman i believe you 100% yeah damn well scout you scout you scout
Starting point is 01:21:20 did i hear a screenshot are we are we stealing are we stealing science from furman coastal No, I'm just preserving that for later. If you need a private investigator to look at those, Ryan, I have a suggestion. Somebody who specializes in this. All right. DM me. I'll send you the link. Okay.
Starting point is 01:21:36 Thank you. Have we missed anything? Oregon State is winning 1713 in the fourth quarter. I have no, I feel less confident in the PAC 12 in like who's the best team in the pack 12 than I did after the Washington Oregon game? Oh, wait, and I guess on this week's regular show, we'll talk about what the playoff's going to look like. Thank you, Oklahoma, for making it easier. Yes, that, yeah, now there's a pretty tidy top four right now.
Starting point is 01:22:11 I don't need to be confirmation that we were better than every other sports show ever, but I do love that November is rounding the corner, and we're like, oh, we should talk about the playoffs at some point. Eh, we don't have to. Yeah, we'll get to. No, I know. I'm just saying I love the attitude. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:25 Yeah, yeah. I do love in the comments. Joey Legend, I see you trying, buddy. He's like, does anyone want to talk about the fuckery that happened in Canadian college football today? And a couple of people are like, no. And he goes, okay. Listen, it's a community that governs itself. I'm very proud.
Starting point is 01:22:44 I'm very proud of all of you for solving your problems. I love that also Joey Legends, Abby, is the Canadian flag. Yeah, yeah. Anybody want to talk about that? Thank you for being a responsible guest. Cal is our Canadian school. I hope Justin Wilcox is smash fucking drunk right now. I can't get this.
Starting point is 01:23:06 I still, I cannot believe Pac-12 rest were like, fuck, we got to tell everybody that we got to play one more play of the first half in the second. Like, Jesus Christ. At some point, one of them had to report that to the week. There has been an unusual ruling. Like, do you understand Rod Cherry never did that shit? We have to go back.
Starting point is 01:23:32 Glasses ref never did that shit. No. Glasses ref, honestly, every time he opened his mouth, I was like, this man's having a stroke. There was one year, the closest I can think of is there was one year where there was a TCU game where it was like, okay, the third quarter is end, it'd go to commercial. And we came back, and Big 12 refs revealed, like, okay actually it's the third quarter all over again right and i remember it was a situation where richard had money on like the under in the third quarter and then we went back one more play and it costs richard money because what he got for using the phrase vested interest 17 times of
Starting point is 01:24:09 one show that's true that's the closest i can recall to like we returned to a previous but even that didn't have a fucking half time show in between it had a goddamn band performance in the middle our guy was fucking sweating and they had to sit there all through halftime they're all going to laugh at us can you imagine if that shit happened in the Iron Bowl
Starting point is 01:24:32 no the minute they were like could you put one second back on the call one second Nick had asked for one second last week that's true that's true as the ref you have to look at Nick and go
Starting point is 01:24:49 you sure you want that it's fine it's a different time now today was Gus Malzahn's birthday how did we and Nick was famously born on Halloween how did we never know during all those Iron Bowls that we were having like a little birthday fight who's who's born on October 30th I wonder oh let's look this up oh wait it's the 29th now isn't it I didn't know that we were having like a little what are they Scorpio is a scorpio fight you know who didn't know or celebrate his birthday Gus Malzon I guarantee you he's like I'm busy he's in no he's in Orlando the Cheesecake Factory probably woke him up like they probably came to his door happy happy birthday today's your
Starting point is 01:25:33 special day yeah uh cheesecake in cheesecake factory in my head replaces all public services in Orlando including firefighting that's true that's true my child was delivered by the cheesecake factory there's certainly on the menu somewhere Oh, they can put your baby in magic shell. That'd be nice. Like page 78. Delivery. Yeah, I'd like a caesarian and this enormous shovel full of mediocre pod tie, please.
Starting point is 01:26:04 And on page 900, it says you will put out my house fire. Okay, I got it. So they dip the baby's feet in like magic shell, and that way while the baby is nursing, you could suck on the baby's feet. What is the rumple stiltskin? Can I order that? It comes with a price. All right, we have to go to bed now
Starting point is 01:26:25 21. It's 21.95. But there's also a curse. You'll want to order him again. You'll be back. You'll have to defend Georgia Tech's rushing attack. We're so close to sliding off the clip into the Antioch Harold voice. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:26:51 I've ever done. I call it the DoorDash, Alphan, because God damn, it's costing me money. Brian, quick, spider noises. Spider noises and the rain stick. Good night, everybody.
Starting point is 01:27:08 Good night.

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