Shutdown Fullcast - Hot January

Episode Date: July 30, 2025

Let's join hands and figure out how to sneak Ryan into Hulk Hogan's funeral (for work)Inventing a new pasta (for men)Hot January is here, and it's awfulWhich coaches would we rather see run for Senate... than Derek Dooley? Turns out it's "most of them"Let's reexamine some things we thought we knew about the Little MermaidComing Attractions: The HawgronomiconFullcast theme song arranged and performed by David CookCheck out Surber’s band, Killer Antz: https://linktr.ee/killerantz and his new show, Podcasterino: https://rss.com/podcasts/podcasterino-pod1/Listen to Phantom Island, Ryan’s new show with Godfrey, which is not a college football show because another simply cannot exist, at falconscottproductionsfcomCheck out Jason's free CFB Watch Grid newsletter and other work: https://www.jasonkirk.fyiDID YOU KNOW: Holly and Spencer write a year-round newsletter, concerning football and also unfootball things, at https://channel-6.ghost.io

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yeah, I'm scoping out that cock. Serbs, that's going to be the start of the cold open, right? Yeah. Cool. Thanks. Let's put that in there. I mean, that's probably just as offensive as the actual thing I wanted to talk about. Oh, good.
Starting point is 00:00:13 Are we doing Derek Dooley's Senate run? No, because that will require actual critical thought. Mine is more of a temperament test. What did you want to talk about? So I wanted to ask a question. And you know what? I'm going to address it to Ryan first. Ryan, how long could you go without laughing at Hulk Hogan's funeral?
Starting point is 00:00:35 That's not offensive. I think you're asking me this because I have been labeled the mean one on the show. Or is it because I'm the most Tampa one on the show? I was asking you this because I think at times you were the standard bear for, I don't want to say normality, but humanity. on this podcast you're the one who will say you know there's a societal norm here and you clearly violated it Ryan is I'm the most I'm the one who clings the people ambassador the rest of us sometimes the rest of us sometimes think we're people you're the people emissary I'm not people but I speak it yeah that's yeah you're our you're our liaison okay um
Starting point is 00:01:19 like me talk pretty one day but you actually speak it yeah I I I am worried that I would go a long time without laughing at Hulk Hogan's funeral because I would be so shocked by what I was witnessing. Because I assume you have already laid out in other places that like if there, we don't have to pick one defining characteristic of the Holkster's legacy, but one of them was just flagrant lies, impossible lies, embellishments, untruths that strength the imagination. And I think any fitting tribute to him will be riddled with those as well, right? Yeah. Yeah. So, so, so I don't, maybe they would make me laugh, but they would also make me sort of like just sort of be stunned by what I was with. I don't know. I don't know how
Starting point is 00:02:15 I would react to. Do you want me to try to sneak in? Is that where this is leading towards? You have, you have the ability to extradite yourself into and out of Tampa without that's true that's true questions yeah what an excellent choice of phrase jason you have the ability to infiltrate tampa you infiltrate it's like the scene in commando where arnold is rowing into the island right and except instead of getting armed up with guns and stuff it's like vape pen emerging emerging in the bay like apocalypse now yeah it's like predator dreads but he's just like you know those you know those hair wraps that your classmates would get when they went to bermunas wherever, but each of one of those has a vape pen
Starting point is 00:02:54 hanging from it as he emerges from the surf. With your face-painted cream sickle orange just pulling the fitted down low over your face as the Oakley slide onto your eyes. Yeah, Ryan, I think the answer is yes, we do want you to try and go to this. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:03:10 If anybody has an inn that can get me into Holkogen's funeral, I will dress appropriately. I don't, that's the other thing. What does that mean? What is that a mean? Sleeveless, sleeveless tux. If you show up outside of the singlet, okay, wait, singlet with a suit jacket with the sleeves
Starting point is 00:03:32 torn off over the singlet. Singlet. But am I just going to look like big, am I just going to look like? Wait, which half of the singlet is it, is half-mast? Is that one strap off? Well, you know. Okay. Oh.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Yeah. I did it. There it is. Okay. Okay. Man. It feels like Ryan's. a good choice for this because
Starting point is 00:03:54 Ryan is a person who thinks lots of things are funny recognizes humor in a lot of places but with wrestling there's going to be a lot of inside jokes and by which I'm not going to get a lot of them yeah yeah I just mean people who are going to stand up to the mic and like if I see them I am wrestling brain-rodded I will immediately start laughing at the sight of this person because I know what they're about to say whereas Ryan it's just going to be like
Starting point is 00:04:19 who's this clown well it's literally a clown it's doink the clown is here to say some words yeah yeah that's the wall brother that's the wall brother like oh my god that's the one i need the most like would it be inappropriate if i showed up to hulk hoggins funeral dressed like the million dollar man is that cool or not cool that is highly encouraged at uh cosplay is highly encouraged at wrestling events if you did that people will come up to you and ask you for money okay they will anyway they will anyway because the hulkster is a grifter surrounded by grifters
Starting point is 00:04:53 but they will do it they will do it as if you are in on a joke together okay I just absolutely like if I kill that if I kill that eulogy filled with lies like when he was brokering peace talks
Starting point is 00:05:06 you know between north and South Korea like you can just get up there and you could say anything you could say anything and it would be perfectly valid with the exception of Spencer I assume that y'all are going to
Starting point is 00:05:21 outlive me. I would like to request if you're there. But this is actuarial. This is actually a table speaking, not me. And it's great that you've gotten this far. But this is about me. You're already in the new game plus mode mode of your life.
Starting point is 00:05:38 I'm in preplay. I'm unlocked all the guns. That thing where you're hesitating to face the final boss because you want to finish up some side missions first. I mean that's very real Or the credits roll Yeah
Starting point is 00:05:54 Like I could beat Gannon But Once you do that shows over Throwing myself off the same cliff Over and over again To avoid doing the final stage I don't know better get some more arrows Can't work
Starting point is 00:06:07 I mean I could level up But There's a legendary fish I haven't caught There's a simsara joke here That I'm not gonna make Because this is about my funeral And I do want to request That if any of you
Starting point is 00:06:17 Or any of you listening at home Are there whatever turns out to be my funeral please tell as many lies as you can okay when holly can i blend them can i blend them with holkogen lies can i be like when holly accepted the oscar for suburban commando okay yes when when holly i want to be clear when holly wrestled in japan that's right yeah and discovered time travel there she got her first riba jacket we're only gonna overlap your life with holkogen's in fun non-racist ways i'm not gonna i'm not If you go back and watch Holly wrestling in Japan, it was a totally different style from America.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Like, you would never expect her to have mastered both styles like that. That's right. I do. I would like it to be said that I had a Rivera jacket. Thank you. Okay. But yeah, I'm going to get there someday. I'm bringing back a whole arm load of them.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Whichever ones of you are listening at home, please embellish whatever you want. That's cool. That's cool. It can make me sound awesome or not as long as it's big. That's my only request. That is my, this is my living will in a, ooh, what if we did a podcast series that was just people's living wills? Like, like, listeners could call in. Will disasters.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Probate court disasters. Estate disasters. Oh boy, do I got one for you. There's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's another long time friend of the program right now who could both fill an hour with their own probate court disasters. I mean, shit, there's like multiple professional sports teams. that apply here. So my other thing is it's also the Colts now.
Starting point is 00:07:55 I think the daughters own it. Okay. Still Jim. In triplet. The spirit of rock and roll. Still Jim. John Mellencamp's car. Who inherited the listenership of the forecast?
Starting point is 00:08:07 The band sticks. It's also like, have you, gosh, this is going to, I know we try to make every forecast something that can exist at any point in time with all context clues. built into it. Have you seen how hot it is in Tampa right now, where I assume Hulk Hogan's funeral is going to be? I know it smelled crazy. Brother, it's burning. It's good. Holly has, Holly has jumped to the, yeah, it's going to smell quite bad.
Starting point is 00:08:32 It's worse than it is here, which is crazy. Yeah. Yeah. It's like the hottest Tampa has ever been. I got into my, I got into my car in a parking garage that was like two levels underneath the movie theater near our house. house the other night at, I think, like, 11 p.m. And it was 92 degrees, according to my car thermometer. Yeah. No, thank you. Let's see. Tampa, show us that real feel.
Starting point is 00:09:00 What's the real feel? Yeah, but what I'm saying is Tampa's worse, right? Ryan, how many hours down here? Tampa's real feel is 119. Yeah. Oh, my. Mind you, mind you, an Arizona 119 is not a Tampa 119. No.
Starting point is 00:09:15 A Tampa 119, that's a 1,000. Brother, you got to keep me on ice. This is not a show that... Y'all need to stay entirely out of our collective mentions with it. But it's a dry heat. Dry heat kills you faster. Yeah, but it feels really good until you go. Brother, you got to keep me on ice.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Because you're getting jerks. They're going to have to bury him at Adventure Island at this point. It's what he wants. Yeah. As Adventure Islands founder, that would only be appropriate. As the adventure of the water slide. Hulk Hoke! Demand! Oh, please say I invented the water slide.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Okay, sure. Just put my casket down the water slide. When me and Bird's Peace case were founding Adventure Island back in the 1930s. The free state of Adventure Island. Later annexed by Florida. But always free in its heart. One last leg drop into the afterlife, brother. First your legs drop and then the rest of you.
Starting point is 00:10:16 That's why he's sideways in that coffin. Yeah, I'll go ahead and make a foolish commitment. If someone can get me into Hulk Hogan's funeral, yeah, I'll go, sure. Wear the onion suit. They'll let you right in. Yep, the thing I definitely own and have. Yeah, I think if you showed up in an elaborate costume and just walked in with confidence, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:36 I mean, as you say, like, hi, I'm a WWE brand ambassador. They'll be like, oh, right. I forgot we monetized this event. All you have to literally, all you have to do is show up with a placard of some kind. Show up with a case of American beer, whatever it's called, his shitty beer, and start slanging. Okay. And just pick a common name, like, hey, Chris said me, hey, Chris said to meet him at the surface entrance, but he wasn't there and just kind of. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Hey, what's up, brother? Dude, I'm here, Jack, to talk to dude about brother. He had a clipboard with slurs on it, so I assumed he belongs here. What's up, brother? I'm here to say some crazy shit, dude, Jack. I bet you could get on the speakers list. I would like to hear Hulk, like, somebody who, not for the case we all know him for, but the penny-ante-lawyering that that man had to have accomplished,
Starting point is 00:11:29 I would like to hear from those people. I bet they had some weird days at work. I want to tell him I'm beloved wrestling character at this medium show and see if they're going to be. Yeah. I'm Skip McMahon. Can I be Chip? My dad said it missed me this generation. so they call me skip, which is not true.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Ryan would be an excellent wrestler. I'm Bubba the Love Sponges agent. That's who I am. That could work. I would claim to be Bubba's. No, that'd be my real thing. I'd be like, yeah, I'm Bubba the Love Sponges agent. I'm his guy.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Sure. And what's probably the most unfortunate connection to a Broadway musical that we've ever attempted in this show, I keep thinking about the poor Judd is Dead, which is a song they sing. The man has not died yet, but they sing a song. it's very romantic that these two guys are going to kill each other and before they kill each other they sing a song about how one of them is going to do the eulogy at the other's funeral and my favorite line comes towards the end and it goes
Starting point is 00:12:28 it looks like he's asleep it's a shame that he won't keep but it's summer and we're running out of ice he's going to get buried in a bandana isn't he surely okay you're going to show up that bald spot we're going back to my original question spot. I posit that it is both just and appropriate to bury him in a
Starting point is 00:12:49 bandana. Even it is in like a suit, yeah. Yes, and if they wheeled him out. Black bandana? Well, that depends. Is he going in his Hollywood? That's right. Yeah, that's the thing. See, folks, again, this is why you need to have a
Starting point is 00:13:05 last will and testament. I would say at this point, Hollywood is far more over than Hulk himself. So I'm going to play the Jimmy Hendrix and send him Send him away as a bad guy. Just one last heel turn. I like that you're thinking in terms of like Paul Hammond brain where you're like, like how to,
Starting point is 00:13:22 I'm going to, what's going to make the crowd pop? Position Paul Heyman behind the casket doing his emoting because he knows the camera is always on Paul Heyman. That's the only way to get Hulk over even in this state is have Paul Heyman nearby. He'd be a great, like, he should franchise himself as a paid mourner. Do you think it's weird when the undertaker shows up to funerals and he's like, no. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:13:42 And they're like, you're going to do the thing. You're going to do the thing, huh? I mean, here, dump him out. Let's see the thing. I'm not, I'm not at work right now, guys. It's got to be like being a pediatrician at like a play date and everyone's come up. You're like, Doc, does this look infected?
Starting point is 00:13:56 And you're like, oh, off the clock. Come on. Make an appointment with the undertaker. You see my point that at every turn, there's something funny because what if the undertaker is the greeter? What if you show up to a funeral and the undertaker is like, welcome to the funeral? You'd bust out laughing.
Starting point is 00:14:13 I mean, Undertaker's role would probably be like, I'm just here to make sure things don't get unruly, right? Like, Undertaker is essentially the bouncer is going to be his role. Right, he's the locker room chief, right? Like, that's his whole thing. You're like, if anybody's going into business for themselves during a eulogy, Taker's going to be the one to lurch out of a chair and spend seven minutes lumbering toward them,
Starting point is 00:14:36 which he used to do as a bit. Now, that's just how he moves. He'll get there when he gets there. I wonder if, I wonder if anybody, and I don't know who they would be doing, I don't know a lot about Hulk Hogan's family situation, I do wonder if anybody in the wrestling universe demanded an appearance fee to show up at the funeral. Like, I don't think they'd get it, but I wonder, I wonder who. I have to fly in all the way from the Baja. I wonder if anybody has sent in riders, like concert riders to this thing, and I wonder what those demands are. All right, listen, listen, dude.
Starting point is 00:15:13 I'll do the fucking eulogy, but I got to get my shit in. Which is code for like, I'm going to hit my catchphrases. I'm going to hit somebody with my finisher. I'm not, I'm not going, he ain't going over on me. Oh, listen, I want Ventura up there now that, just because, one, Server did a great impression, like a scary, terrifying. So I will say, I think what Server actually did was a perfect impression of Will Saso doing, Jesse. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:15:39 I can live with that. That's good. Ryan, can you do? No, I can't do it. No, no, no, listen. Can you do Cerber doing Saso doing this? No, absolutely. That's too many layers of inception.
Starting point is 00:15:49 No, that's perfect for wrestling. That's perfect. Yeah. Then they're lost in Neo K-Fave is what that. But he's going to straight up. You've carnied the carnies. Like, there's, would it not be the most wrestling thing ever for, for, like, Jesse Ventura to get up there and, like, do a promo against Hulk Hogan?
Starting point is 00:16:07 Like, he was not a real American. Like, he could do that. Yeah, we got to send Sergeant Slaughter. Sergeant Slaughter's job. Sergeant Slaughter would be like, because he was always the bad guy of that crowd. Man. So I think the answer is how long did you go without laughing is like,
Starting point is 00:16:24 I'm not making it in the door. You know what? You know what? I know the second I'll break. The services are over. Everyone's grieved. We retreat to a second room and they unveil the trays of pasta mania that we're happening.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Yeah. Solem fare And that's what Hull fucking loose Listen brother Dude This ain't this ain't a morning This is a celebration
Starting point is 00:16:48 So those of you At home server just Cracked himself And pasta mania I'm honoring a hoaxer today By eating like a pig This is my body Eat of it
Starting point is 00:16:58 It's noodles Three piles of handfuls Of quote unquote Vitamins By the party favors Just like candy noodles Dude But it's just pills
Starting point is 00:17:10 Man Although, like Have you invented pasta for men? Oh no, this is, that was a real. Doodles? Oh, that part. There we go. It's got to exist, right?
Starting point is 00:17:26 Another business. No, I did not mean dude less. God, there's never been a more doodeless. There's never been a less dudeless podcast than this one. Dudeless with quotes, pasta. It's only coming up in other languages Interesting I'd still get emotional
Starting point is 00:17:45 The problem is that Doodles Doodles is simultaneously A really good name for pasta for men But it's also a very silly name It's somehow not very masculine Because you're like God have the Beatles Men can't be whimsical Not these days
Starting point is 00:18:00 No I think there's got to be a hyphen in it You know Because it's like to make clear it doesn't mean Dude less Yeah yeah And it's We're not talking about
Starting point is 00:18:08 Doodlems do more We're not talking about silly drawings that your kids you can't see make. I think it's kind of got to be like, could you do noodles for dudes? Could you call it that? I know that ruins it, but still, if we're trying to get it. What if it's what if it's doodles, colon, noodles for dudes. Oh, yeah, yeah, an explanation. Manicotti.
Starting point is 00:18:28 That's what it is. Yeah, that comes in these little, brotini, brotini, manacotti. No, bro tini. Broti. Bro tini, protein. It's got to have protein. Yeah, it's got to have 30 grams of unnecessary protein. It's grainless, it's grainless pasta that's all made from extruded meat.
Starting point is 00:18:48 This pasta is going to stop you up like crazy. It's got totally pointless protein in it that your body doesn't need at all. Minguini, manet. And it all comes in these little cups so you can heat it up in the microwave while you're waiting at family court. Yeah, so anyway, I will get emotional when they hold up the wolf pack. like if they do the hooh like yeah it's like I'm gonna get emotional
Starting point is 00:19:12 I mean I don't like Hogan at all that would just be about the NWO it's like yeah someone's gonna mention Scott Hall that'll be sad but otherwise let's go to someone's funeral and remember someone we actually
Starting point is 00:19:25 exactly Kevin Nash is here and give a eulogy Kevin Nash is gonna say the original NWO Scott Hall and I'll be like oh damn that's my dog Scott Hall yeah
Starting point is 00:19:37 and then right back to comedy you make that sound like it's impossible spencer but i'm pretty sure we've all been to a funeral like that yeah i had to stop the preacher at a great aunt's funeral of mine about 10 years ago like just had to get up and stop him yeah what talking about the wrong person you know the great thing about no he was talking about himself yeah oh yeah i was like jeff i think these people are ready for lunch nope they want to see me dunk My grandma thought you were a shithead, Jeff, if you're ever listening to this. It's Jordan Clark's in time.
Starting point is 00:20:15 That's what some priest think, preachers think. Fortunately, that's what every wrestler thinks. So this funeral is going to last about eight hours. Yeah, I think I would make it until whatever first, like, I'm imagining like somber versions, like dirge, Carolyn versions of all these wrestling music being played. When you hear I am a real American on a harp. And I think the first time they tried to do, I think the first time they tried to do one of those with like harp and oboe, the music, I think, is where I would fall out.
Starting point is 00:20:47 It's also a thing where you're not going to see A-lister's at this thing, right? But you're going to see the cream of the D-list. Yeah, yeah, you're going to see the people who come out when they do one of them novelty royal rumbles. Like, it's an elite D-list. Because, like, a lot of them know better than to associate themselves. with this guy, which is funny considering the other guys a lot of them associate themselves with, but yeah, you're going to see it.
Starting point is 00:21:17 But there's still going to be cameras there. Yeah. Bamargera. I can't believe he outlasted. He came back just to outlast the Hulk's. I'm going to put my ash on the Hulk there. What do you think it was like in the most? morgue that way oh they're when they're cutting him open and like like the wildest uh
Starting point is 00:21:46 chemical propulsions are firing out and have you ever had to take i bet there's a lot of like that shouldn't be that color have you ever had to take uh the leather cushion covers off of a couch yes sawing through his skin first of all sawing through his his the world's most tanned skin his scorched leather skin and then getting to like muscles at this point that are made of like alien fabrics that like synthetic shit from Iron Man movies that's his muscles.
Starting point is 00:22:20 None of which breathes. None of it. No. No. I mean the fabric, he himself does not breathe as far as we know. I bet I think he'd just soak it in water for a while. So you got to reconstitute him? Soak all of him in water.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Like those little, this is even period accurate. Remember those little dinosaurs? that you would put in the sink and they would Yeah. Just don't bury him the same cemetery as Billy Mays because he doesn't deserve a share of those grounds. Not those hallow grounds, baby. What is Billy, and remember, what is Billy May's
Starting point is 00:22:54 Headstone say? Billy Mays lies here. Is that what it's about? Does it say Billy Mays lies here? Is it still moving product? It says Billy May's here. I think it should still be, It's just still be slinging product on his headstone.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Like there should be one of those little coupon spitter outers that they have in the grocery store. Free samples. Or QR code. Half of his gravestone not treated with oxyclean, the other half treated with oxyclean. Look how clean! You see the difference? All right, you need to start the show before we really get in a bad territory. Before we get.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Miniseries 3. What are you worried about? We're fine. You're going to ruin my invitation to Holcock's funeral, which is surely coming any day now. Welcome to the shutdown fullcast. You are listening to the Internet's only college football podcast. I am here, as always. I'm Spencer Hall, by the way.
Starting point is 00:24:25 I missed it. I missed it. There I go. Billy Mays here. Billy Mays here. I'm Spencer Hall. Spencer Hall. Constantly pitching forward because I'm out of breath.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Always here with Ryan Nanny, Holly Anderson, Jason Kirk, and Michael Serber on the ones and twos. How's everyone feeling on this? Hot January? Hot, brother. It's hot January, yeah. Yeah. Hot January. That's all July is, but that's okay.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Football soon. Football pretty freaking soon. Football soon. Less than a month. Football soon. Which always comes with. football soon work all the time for months yes but also not hot January so I'm there is that it has that going for it anyway that's our show that's the show
Starting point is 00:25:22 we do have kind of like a newsy show why are you making promises all first of all for this one this one is newsy so far always talking That is what's in the news. No, that's true. We should probably, hey, for those of you wondering, what was that first segment about Holkogen died if you didn't hear? If this is how you learned, I'm worried. This is always how one of you finds out.
Starting point is 00:25:51 My dog who didn't know Bob Stoops was gone until we told him a year later, we got to you. That's right. That's right. Yeah. Also, I'm pretty sure that person thought Bob Stoops was dead, not just not in coaching. So Bob Stoops is fine. He's fine. No.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Stoops is fine. So far. He's thriving. Yeah. If you want to come with me to Hulkster's funeral, just let me know. He's got a great beard. He could get in. I was already going.
Starting point is 00:26:18 We can save on gas. Yeah. Yeah. This is a bit newsy. And I think the first thing we wanted to talk about before we got... Second thing we wanted to talk about. Well, all right. Third, counting our meta discussion of the full cast itself.
Starting point is 00:26:34 That is true. Yes. The third thing. thing we wanted to talk about was if you were to pick one college football coach past or present. Speaking of complete goddamn losers.
Starting point is 00:26:47 To run for office, I bet the 352nd person you'd mentioned would be Derek fucking Dooley. That's aggressive. Oh, thank you. Where? Okay, first context important. Yeah. Where? Yeah. Surely this is at
Starting point is 00:27:02 one of the, in one of the states where Derek Dooley coached, right? Perhaps in Louisiana. where he last enjoyed his period of successful football pursuit as coach and athletic director of Louisiana Tech or perhaps in Dallas where his family settled as he when he was what wide receivers coached backwards into being the receivers coach of the cowboys or in New York where he was an assistant for the Giants for two years or I don't know maybe in Charlotte because last I heard he was some kind of he had done some kind of banking situation His wife's a doctor, so she really must want him out of the house.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Or maybe even, at the far end of reason, simply by matter of actually having had a job there once, the state of Tennessee. Had a job. We'll talk about what he did. Is beloved there. He's not blonde, which is going to be a problem. He could be. We can talk to that up. Glow up Derek Dooley.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Oh, man. Christ. We played the fox. news filter to Derek Dooley. He is like, he is not remembered fondly by anyone there, but the fact that we know for sure that he lived there for a minute might even give Tennessee the edge over where he is actually running for the United States Senate, which is Georgia. That's right.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Which is where three of us live. So this is now our problem. This is not something we wanted to talk about, but now he's made it our problem. Yeah, because the brothers decided to run for Senate. Specifically my problem. Yeah, here in the state of Georgia. Do you know what his record was against Georgia during his three years to Tennessee? It's got to be great.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Was it, was it O and three? Let's see here. It was 0 and 3. It was 0 and 3. How the hell did I guess that? I know. I know. The amount that I want to yell about this development in news is very long.
Starting point is 00:29:19 The argument against this, however, is very short, and I will lay it out thusly. What is Derek Dooley going to run on as a Senate candidate for this state? He is going to run on being the son of Vince Dooley, beloved college football coach. He is going to run as, hey, you know me from football. Now I want to be in the Senate. Oh, Derek, how do we know you from football? We ask, well, that's where the problem starts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:58 He is a loser. He is a loser. Just because Tennessee got worse every year he was there. Herschel couldn't do this here. Herschel couldn't pull it off. Ryan, I think you had, Ryan, you had the best response to all of this when we first learned to this. You said it's like if Herschel did this after averaging 1.7 yards of carry.
Starting point is 00:30:24 My God, man. It's like Herschel's kid doing this. Could you get a real job anywhere for once in your life? It's also Maybe the most confusing Maybe the most confusing thing about it Is that Derek Dooley's tenure at Tennessee Was neither good
Starting point is 00:30:43 Nor interestingly bad No, just annoying Just yeah Just annoying Probably the enduring memory There are probably two enduring memories I have at Derek Dooley at Tennessee I have one that I know has never been mentioned on this show before
Starting point is 00:30:57 One is 15 men on the field Yeah In the LSU game That's probably that if people, I don't know that people necessarily remember that that's a Derek Dooley game, but if, if, if I said like, what's a game from this era? That's probably the one people point to. Uh-huh. The other one that I think would be fun is the, I think it's his first year at the Music City Bowl loss because it's, it happens in such stupid fashion. Because other than that, you look through these, you look through these records and you're like, oh. They were just out there getting their asses kicked almost all the time.
Starting point is 00:31:36 The abiding memory I have of him is of him walking around SEC media days after hitting the lunch table with his entire face smeared in mayonnaise and no one bothered to tell him because that's how little regard his peers. He looked like my cat. He kind of has a little cat-like face anyway. He looked just like the full cat. And it was several minutes before anybody said anything to him. and it was a crowded room. That's it. That's probably the most charitable characterization
Starting point is 00:32:05 anyone's given of him. He just made him sound like him a naked-nakey-nacle. Mm-hmm. He's not even interestingly dumb. He's just a nothing burger. He's not a Tupperville. No.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Do you know what? Can I tell you? Tuberville was a more successful coach. Far more. And far more interestingly dumb is my point. Yeah, yeah, that too. No, that was the thing. I just realized that, like,
Starting point is 00:32:25 I just realized that Tupperville has two edges over him, which is horrifying. I'm going to give you some stats from Derek Dooley's last game coaching Tennessee. And Holly, I don't want you to answer because you'll probably know. Don't worry. I'm going to chew off my own fist.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Just based on the stats, I want you to, I want the rest of you to try to guess which team this was. This was a 41-18 loss for Tennessee. God, fucking damn it. Tennessee got outgained 442 to 303. They lost the turnover battle, three to one. and Tyler Bray. You didn't tell me you were going to do this and I don't appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Tyler Bray went 11 of 29 for 103 yards. Do you know who this loss came against? So I know his final record was 4 and 7, which means it wasn't Vanderbilt, right? I regret to tell you that this year it was. Oh, my God. So who did they? This was a, they played Kentucky their last.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Oh, okay, okay. I think they beat Kentucky, but that he wasn't there for their game. It's 41 to 18, and we have to remember whether that was the Kentucky loss or the Vanderbilt loss. The Jim Cheney was the interim for the win over Kentucky. Yes, Jim Cheney was the interim. Maybe most distressing is that. So Tennessee went into the half of this game down 1310, which fine, like shit happens. And then Vanderbilt dropped 21 points on them in the third quarter.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Yeah. I'm so stressed out. Jordan Rogers through for 245. But they were closing with Kentucky all the time in this era. I take it back. That's right. Yeah, that used to be a thing. You know, among other things, just from a vibe standpoint,
Starting point is 00:34:13 wasting the Tyler Bray era on this asshole. Yeah. Could have been so much more festive. Oh, my God. Like Tyler, like Tyler Bray under the current coaching staff, just imagine. My God. Like, I think for a while it was just like, well, he's not. Lane Kiffin so heck what a nice guy who was decided to be he hasn't left us they were like
Starting point is 00:34:35 you dated the guy with the with the transam and now you're going to date your mom's dentist's son who she set you up with I I already put this on blue sky on Monday but going back to the ESPN report of his hiring and the other names that were considered you want to read those Listen, all right. We're going to talk a little bit later in the show about some future things we have coming up. An entire episode on just what happened with every Tennessee coaching search since 2008 would be three hours by itself. All right.
Starting point is 00:35:10 So this is again from the ESPN article when Derek Duley got hired at Tennessee. Duley was hired from a list of candidates believed to include Texas defensive coordinator Will Mustchamp. Air Force. That's true. and we were mad that we didn't get Will Must Jam, which is how bad this was. Air Force coach Troy Calhoun. That, that I can't, okay, I have thoughts on all of these, but never mind. It's a good idea.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Duke coach David Cutcliffe. He turned us down, which is hilarious, but also said to his life. And Utah coach Kyle Whittingham. Good idea. That is an era I would have liked to have seen. All of those are far better ideas. yeah and and and oh and not on not on that list but i'm pretty sure in that bunch was also mike gundy mind you uh sure duly had just gone for those who don't know 17 and 20 as louisiana
Starting point is 00:36:07 tech's head coach but he was also their athletic director yeah it's not a bad record at la tech um but mainly his qualification is his dad was vince duly like if any anybody else had gone 17 and 20 at la tech not a chance um also he'd work for nick sabin But everyone has. Everyone's like, well, what if Nick Saban, but he also had it a really boring pedigree? This was the era when, and he was, Doolie was one of the first where it's like, oh, he knows Nick Saban to hire him. And then it became a joke for about a decade, largely because of guys like Duley.
Starting point is 00:36:43 And then of all people, just to prove once and for all that coaching hires are crap shoots every single time, the one of Nick Sabin's assistants who turned out to be the one who could win Natty's was the biggest dumbest boy of all. That's right. The boy with the bull. Complementary. I think what's most delightful to me is that in the time between Derek Tuley getting fired after his third year until, hey, Derek Duley, until Derek Duley's
Starting point is 00:37:11 running for Senate, I cannot think of a single coaching search in college football where his name came up publicly at him. No. Not one. No. and think about how many broke broke dick college football coaches at least get mentioned in a coaching search
Starting point is 00:37:30 at least are thrown out as like I don't know maybe this is going to like think about who gets his replacement butch Jones has another job has done a fine job at Arkansas State yeah yeah yeah think about it every coach killing job that you know all of them okay all of the jobs that 100% will kill your coaching career.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Nebraska. Nebraska's been open several times over the course of the past few years. God, I can't believe even on a Derek Dooley-focused segment, we're going to drag Nebraska fan. God, I feel so bad. I was going to say, I can't believe Nebraska failed to kill Scott Frost. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:11 He's hiding out the bunker, buddy. He did have that bunker. That's right. He's hold up in the survival bunker. You can't get him there. Bunker down. Anyway, this is fun Anyway, this is going to be funny
Starting point is 00:38:22 And it's going to be stupid And if he finishes higher than I said fifth in the primary Let's be realistic. Let's be charitable I call it third In the Republican primary I'm not
Starting point is 00:38:34 I'm not in any way, shape or form Defending Tommy Tuberville's politics But at least I could tell you some things About him as I could be like There's the Pine Box thing There's the undefeated year they had He had a lot of good defenses There's the way he left Texas
Starting point is 00:38:48 tech, there's the fact that he lost to you. Like, I could tell you, it's a stretch to remember anything about Derek Dooley's time at Tennessee. It really is a cipher. My main memory is when his whatever graphics team put up
Starting point is 00:39:04 those double doors that were meant to say opportunity is now here. They clearly instead said opportunity is nowhere became one of my favorite all time. Like that's a weird way of phrase that at first it's like, what does that even mean? But the I will always have it saved on every device I own.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Yeah. Oh, my jaw hurts. It just means a lot to me. Akron didn't try to hire that man. There was also, it might have been his, he beat Vanderbilt one year, I know that, and then, was it him or Butch who was recorded saying, well, we might lose to Alabama, but we'll sure as shit beat the hell out of Vanderbilt. And it was like, oof. That feels more Butch, but I can't promise. it was.
Starting point is 00:39:48 It was, sometimes I have hard time distinguishing those two. Butch is the, which is shame because they're very different. Yeah. Yeah. I will tell you, for what it's worth, Derek Dooley did beat Butch while Derek was at Tennessee and Butch was at Cincinnati.
Starting point is 00:40:07 And I feel like that should have sent some alarm bells up about hiring Butch Tennessee in the first place. Yeah. But it's fine. Everything's worked out fine. No, it's not a big deal. Anyway, now he set himself up for the task of... They've done far worse, such as Derek Dooley.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Politically, if you can imagine, I'm not going to get into the Georgianess of this, but politically if you can imagine this is even dumber than it is for football-based reasons, because he has set himself up for a situation where he has to peel off right-ling centrist Democrat voters while also doing a Trump loyalty oath. Have fun, bud. I you all Maybe you all would know better because you
Starting point is 00:40:50 You live in Georgia But and I don't have a good sense of this Because we all have spent so much time Talking and thinking and watching college football Do regular people know who Derek Dooley is? Like does this name register? No, no No, no, that's okay
Starting point is 00:41:05 I cannot I cannot tell you how zero This moved the needle Like this feels like This doesn't even this didn't even inspire wide derision, it was like mild eye-rolling chuckles. Like every single headline even within Georgia is son of former Georgia football coach
Starting point is 00:41:25 running for office. Which by the way, here's one more football thing to drop into why this is stupid. Like, and as a talismanic object, Vince Dooley is no longer the be-all end-all that he might have been like 10 years ago, because, you know, he was once, you know, he once represented, like, you know, the pinnacle of Georgia glory. They've won titles since then.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Stetson Bennett ruined Derek Dooley's Senate run. Yeah. That's our future senator. There's a path there where you can argue that, and it's not nonsensical. Oh, I just said it because he does not, like the Dooley Cache has not, the Duley Cache has been dimmed by Georgia's recent on-field success. They no longer, like, there's no longer quite the wistful sigh associated with that family that there might once have been if he had done this before Georgia's title run. It's also, that shit was 45 years ago. So stupid.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Like, there are not many people alive who remember George's 1980 national title. And they're probably not voting, they're probably not able to being peeled off of John Ossoff's constituency if they are. And there's also probably a percentage of the people who do remember all of this who are like, I know he's Vince's son, but I never trusted him after he took the Tennessee job. He's Vince's son who went to work at Bama and Tennessee. Yeah, I don't think he's, I don't think he's trustworthy. He's never wanted to be here. Derek is an Athens native who went to like Clark High School in Athens High School, basically,
Starting point is 00:43:10 went to Georgia and then worked for all, like, well, I can't say all of Georgia's rivals. 35 of them. He went to UVA. He went to a third of Georgia's rivals. Yeah. It went to Georgia for a master's or whatever. But, um, yeah, he was, sorry, he went to Georgia law school, but he went to UVA, uh, for undergrad and since then has worked at, let me see if I can rattle all this off. Like, well, shit, he was even at Missouri for a minute, uh, since they joined the SEC, but he's, he's worked at LSU. He's worked at, uh, he's worked at Bama. Football coach from every other school in the SEC. Do you know the most damning thing?
Starting point is 00:43:46 And this is a call back to the episode we did about like coaches with multiple stops and whatever. In all his travels, Derek Duley has never worked for the Atlanta Falcons. Not once. How? How can you trust a man who wants to represent, a coach who wants to represent state of Georgia who's never gotten a job? Who has worked for multiple NFL teams. And yet, somehow, not even the Falcons will take him. He worked for the Dallas Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Not even. That might even do more damage. Not even the transfer portal itself, the Atlanta Falcons coaching office. The midpoint between all realms, the liminal space. It's the pocket universe that you have to create in order to transfer from one place to another. There's sad Idraselba standing there with his sword. Yeah. Skiggy, where you want to go.
Starting point is 00:44:39 This is so annoying This is not an atrocity It's just so goddamn irritating It's pretty stupid I resent that I have to think about him The most juiceless man alive Attempting to nepo baby his way to sentence He is Tom Brady in Hertz ads level of Rizzless
Starting point is 00:45:02 Yeah Hey remember my dad No I don't I was not alive Not at all Actually, a lot of the people who were alive when that happened don't remember his dad either. Oh, your dad is Kirby? Well, in a manner of speaking.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Kirby's all of our fathers. Oh, God, Kirby is the all father. That's kind of a Norse name. Kirby. Kirby. I can't listen. Kirby's post-playing life's going to be so good because he'll be like, hey, Kirby, you should get involved in politics. He's like, I don't vote.
Starting point is 00:45:36 What the fuck is that? Yeah. Me like class president. Oh my God, he would run on a free pizza Friday's platform and probably win. Hell yeah, brother. I don't watch the mass singer. I think my wife told me about that.
Starting point is 00:45:56 I think I have a wife. I look forward to meeting her. There's this lady who walks around my house sometimes. I think I'd like to close this segment out by slam the door reading opportunity is nowhere. on this by saying in the show notes for this episode the heading is Derek Dooley's Senate run colon why and then there is a there is a little a breakdown underneath of talking points and the first talking point of
Starting point is 00:46:21 one says no seriously why why this is like if Brady Hoke decided to run for Senate in Wisconsin yeah I mean they might like him they'd be like he's pretty it's pretty freaking rotund he was jolly it's got a freaking good shape to him. He didn't really whoop up on us too bad. He was good to us. Look at the cheeks on that
Starting point is 00:46:51 fella. I need to see me to fry wall line down a couple of bruise before I really think. He's been winterized. That guy could fill up a doorway in my cabin. He'd keep you warm on a cold night, wouldn't he? That's his campaign slogan.
Starting point is 00:47:09 snuggle up to Brady Hoke. Brady Hoke for Senate. So which coach would be appropriate for Georgia, then? Like, who should give it a shot? Like, let's see, not a Falcons coach. Pete Carroll. That ruins it. Paul Johnson.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Paul Johnson could do it. Because like, whatever he believes in is so old-fashioned, I don't even know if it's problematic. You know what I mean? Paul Johnson. He's got opinions about railroads or whatever he's he's got like I think the grumpy demeanor that sort of fits and even the Georgia fans will be like I hate him but I do respect him yeah yeah you know that guy's a company store capitalist who's like you bleed on this floor you pay for that plane like I know he's one of those guys who's like you need to get down on your knees every day and thank dollar
Starting point is 00:47:59 general for stocking these five cent lollipies not paying you overtime for the time you were trapped under the vending machine he is very much a not to say he's shares the same racism as this character, but in Blazing Saddles, when they go, when they go damn near lost a $400 hand cart, that's totally Paul Johnson, right? Sure. Yeah, I think Paul Johnson would be an excellent Senate candidate, and knowing nothing of his politics. I like that you ended it as candidate.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Yeah, yeah. Let's draw the line right there. Anyone could be a candidate. That's fine. Sure. Not whole COVID. But apparently any. Well, brother, dude, Jack, before they put me in the dirt, I, of course,
Starting point is 00:48:39 won a handful of Senate races, as you know, in the 1980s when when they begged, when Ronald Reagan, when I pinned him clean at the Pontiac Silver Dome, he begged me to run for Senate. Paul Proxmire said I couldn't do it. Brother Jack, dude.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Once I broke Bob Dole's leg was over from there. That's why he limped. Well, I saw Bob Dole out there in the crowd at Wembley Stadium and I had to put it back together. Brother, I leg dropped Daniel in ways so hard. He just took his arm off. I'm the one who taught Dan Quayle to read, brother.
Starting point is 00:49:15 You may remember the book about me, Master of the Senate. That's me, that is. Robert Caro being like, I have no experience with this and cannot verify. Let's just get Robert Carroll on the record refuting a lie we told in the whole Cogan's imaginary. The whole documentary where every five minutes they get the person he's lying about to say like, I don't even. I have never been to that country. No.
Starting point is 00:49:42 That country doesn't exist. He made it up. Yeah. Mariah Carey being like he did not write We Belonged Together, nor did he sing back up on it. I wrote We Belonged Together in 1987, dude. We did date for six weeks. He was gentlemanly. I played Dr. Doom.
Starting point is 00:49:58 The real Dr. Doom doesn't exist and certainly didn't have a threesome with Hulk Hocan. So there I was in Wakanda, brother. Saying horrible stuff. I can't go back. Hulk Hogan booted from Wakanda They wouldn't kick him out They would just, all right, he's got to go Nobody needs to hear from him ever again
Starting point is 00:50:22 Maybe they could, they could mill him into a paste To feed those purple flowers Worthwhile, dude You know, when they cut me up and put me in them purple flowers They said once you sniffed them, you turned into the jacked panther just him banging on that force field going let me in brother let me in dude let me in brother
Starting point is 00:50:42 now that's the wall Hulkogen let the white one in ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha okay that out of the way yeah you do a little time to make some money time to make some money now that we've had all the hot top
Starting point is 00:51:06 podcast business what's a business podcast business it's a business it's a business podcast sponsoring a funeral that's Hulk Hogan's the official sponsor at home yeah we're the official sponsor of Hulk Hogan's online funeral so am I going to prove it for wrong all we have to do is invoice them sure they do is say no back when Hulk Hogan started the shutdown forecast mind you we fired him to be clear We fired him. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:38 The original show was just Spencer and Holkogen, giving marriage advice. Yeah. It went real well. Yeah. We got some, we got so much podcast business. Please help Holly. Please help Holland. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:51:58 I mean, I know how I usually rescue us diving off a cliff in these situations, but for that, I'm going to have to go someplace. we haven't been in a minute. Ooh, where's that? Home Field Apparel! Oh, son! Oh, we're back! Oh, we're back!
Starting point is 00:52:15 It is the return of the partnership, our longest running partnership, our longest tenured sponsor, by far our favorite sponsor, Home Field Apparel of Homefieldapparel.com. We started our business right around the same time Homefield Apparel started. We have grown our businesses side by side. Homefield's much better at business than we are. They are a very large and successful company now, and we are five to seven idiots yelling into a microphone at any one time. We are so thrilled to be partnering with them for another season,
Starting point is 00:52:55 and we rejoin the Homefield Story in progress just in time for what they are calling, Can't Miss Kickoff. now can't miss in advertising can be something of a misnomer oh you won't want to miss this oh you know want to bet however anybody who says that they can miss homefields can't miss kickoff 2025 has not seen this white out Miami bomber jacket yeah it is part of a collection that is dropping it you can't get it yet we don't even have them yet it's dropping in two weeks You know it's for real if we're promoting it on like a half gator show, but they are running a blackout versus whiteout, limited edition run of bomber jackets. Miami's jacket is the crispest white.
Starting point is 00:53:47 It is striped in orange and green. You can see this on Homefield's Instagram, but my favorite part of this, well, two favorite parts. One, Sebastian looking angry and charging at you from the sleeve, like kind of up on the shoulder, like where you would put like, you know, an anchor tattoo if you were a stevedore. But over with the breast pocket area, there is a big U, and in the middle of the U, there is the silhouette of the receiver catching the ball, kind of like you'd see in, like, a jumpman style on certain other inferior apparel companies. I have zero affiliation with the University of Miami. I've been to, like, two games there in my life.
Starting point is 00:54:26 I am buying the shit out of this jacket. They also have, in other homefield news, they're opening their first retail store, in Bloomington on August 19th on Kirkwood Avenue. So if you're in the area, check that out. Most significantly to us for the start of this podcast at a brand new football season, they have dropped a new Clemson collection celebrating 55 years of the iconic tiger paw. And since Serber was out last week, we did not have the chance to get in our usual 45 minutes of Clemson football talk.
Starting point is 00:55:01 server how are you feeling about this clemson drop yeah there i played uh offensive line when the only times i was able to play football as a child when i was skilled enough um and so the thing i love most about the clemson drop is the t-shirt they the memorial stadium t-shirt they have put out it has a football helmet on it there's a lot of different choices for face masks you could have for that but the one that would always please me would please me would be one with a bar down the middle and they've dropped a bar down the middle of that helmet. I did not notice that until just now. That's awesome. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Oh yeah. It's a real solid look. One of them's a ringer, which if you can do the ringer. With purple rings? I love this. Yeah, I got purple rings. But the sneaky play here is the very like simplified grandpa
Starting point is 00:55:51 quarter zip that they dropped with just an orange tiger paw on it. It's just a simple gray quarter zip. But, man, I was looking at the Clemson collection, aside from the new ones, just the entire collection. And Jason, correct me from wrong here, if I'm using this terminology wrong, but I felt blessed. There's three pages of Clemson gear. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:14 There's only a few schools that have that many pages of gear. An overwhelming abundance. We are a cornucopia of Clemson options on Hocletapparel.com. We're supremely blessed in volume of Clemson gear. Yes. We're going to be doing all kinds of new stuff with Homefield this year that we're very excited to talk to you about very soon, including places where you'll be able to see us around the country this season, including at least one place that I don't think any of us have ever been for a game. We will be at this year in partnership with Homefield for a college football contest this fall at a spot that I'm pretty sure none of us have ever seen a game out before. we could of course make liars of us all before then but we're very excited about this i i wouldn't
Starting point is 00:57:03 rule out the possibility that spencer has but forgot but like for like court reasons or maybe just forgot yeah i might get there and be like oh i left something here yeah it is a location i will not drop it just yet but it is a location where when we tell you we've never been there you will be kind of surprised to learn that we've never been there because we were kind of surprised to realize that we've never been there. But more on that in the weeks to come, homefieldapparel.com. We are so happy to be back,
Starting point is 00:57:32 and we hope that you share our excitement by visiting homefield apparel.com and giving them all of your discretionary income. Thank you. We don't ask for much. Just all your discretionary income. Well, okay, save a little bit of your discretionary income, but more on that very soon.
Starting point is 00:57:50 And your mermaid voice. We also want that. Yes. yeah because there are things a foot that we actually for which we need you to sing they're called feet yes they're those things you walk around on what are those called feet you know flipping your fins you don't get too far which is not true it's actually a very efficient way to get around
Starting point is 00:58:17 oh god i never thought about that she's like yeah just a huge slam on the engineering of dolphins and is out of nowhere. Yeah. It's fucking rude. Ariel. Anyway. Get it together. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Anyway, when Hulk Hogan animated the little mermaid, he did so. Mm-hmm. I just wanted to be part of your world, brother. Man, not much of a girl, dad. Sorry, Spencer, you were trying to talk about something else? I was. I was. Who do you think you are?
Starting point is 00:58:47 Hope you've learned your last. Never doing that again, brother. Going right back to these Hulk Hogan corpse jokes. What jokes? What joke? I'm just stating facts. Speaking of fascinating disasters. You know what a fascinating disaster that we've talked about, okay?
Starting point is 00:59:11 Holly, Jason and I, for the better part of, I would say, a bulky, a porcine two hours of content would be, we have cut an Arkansas podcast. That's right. We talked about them hogs. Lightning bolts. The Hogranomicon. Lightning bolts. Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:36 We've started the Hogranomicon. So what I'm going to say is this. You go, oh man, listen to you guys talk for two hours about the worst and most outrageous moments in Arkansas football history that's the most full cast shit I've ever heard. Not even, no, we took a very thin slice. We did a good job.
Starting point is 01:00:02 This is a Sunday slice of whole hog. We did a very good job of the main stuff. A generous sampling of some of the most colorful and outrageous moments in Arkansas football history. A soap opera, a hoganomicon, if you will. a book of Arkansas lore that we think you really enjoy. Yes, that is a podcast.
Starting point is 01:00:30 A book that is a podcast for... An audio book shit. That's not already exist too, okay. Podcasting is a visual medium. We did that, and I think you'll enjoy it. Where is it, and why can't we hear it right now? So, what I can say is that we do have... It is ready to go and the barrel.
Starting point is 01:00:53 It sounds less real, the more you talk. It sounds like he's lying through it. Definitely. You sound like we're past a deadline and we're emailing a professor. You have to give me $22 million. I have not lost it or I'll die. He sounds like a kidnapper who lost the kid, 100%. The boy.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Can you describe the kid that you have? Because the boy or girl is with me. I assure you. you this is the toe off a 70 year old man of the wrong ethnicity why did you send it in the mail that's the boy's toe bobby petrino said he was good for it but but what i am what i'm allowed to say at this point is hold this space oh it's jeff long's toe yes big things are a foot here at the shutdown full cast okay for the next bold outrageous and yes slightly bacon tinged in flavor version of the full cast. This is going great.
Starting point is 01:01:51 I'm glad we let you do this part. I know. I'd let. So again, watch this space. Listen to this space. Yes. Listen to this space. We're so good at business. Big new thing. Lightning bolts, lightning bolts.
Starting point is 01:02:11 That was actually kind of creepy in headphones. Like it was skittering up my spine. Yeah, it sounded like bugs. It sounded like the lightning bolts were bugs for some reason. Bug sell. Bug sell. Bugs sell?
Starting point is 01:02:24 Hmm. Yeah. There's big bug business. I'm Spencer Oogie Buggy Hall. That's right. Jason, what you got going on? You know, Spencer, it's funny you ask because I just put up an episode of the vacation Bible school podcast featuring a guest named Spencer Hall.
Starting point is 01:02:42 We talked about the, among other things, we talked with Spencer about, we had a, we had serious heartfelt conversation about religion folks how about that how's that sound um in which i very nearly converted uh spencer no that's not true that that's not true so close we did talk about um the two verses in the book of kings in which two lady bears are able to obtain and then eat 42 young males of some age and size uh we had a great deal of fun with that and also emily and i talked about you know the the bible's phyro necromancer that's the word um And an allegedly evil queen that we will make all sorts of excuses for. Well, she did nothing wrong, Your Honor, nothing wrong, nothing wrong.
Starting point is 01:03:26 No girls have ever done anything wrong. We talked about the origins of the name Beelzebub. Learned some fun facts about that. All that and more on the latest episode of Vacation Bible School podcast we've done. I don't know how many of these. There's a lot. Five years worth, wow. They're all available online.
Starting point is 01:03:43 It took five years. I don't know if the worth is questionable. It's worthful. Yeah, I agree with that part. Hey, the journey is as long as it takes. That's right. It takes what it takes. There we go.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Hey, Ryan, what's going on in your mercantile corner of the woods? Over at Phantom Island, by the time this comes out, you will also be able to listen to Godfrey and our friend, Hector Diaz, also talking about Hulk Hogan. Will it be like this conversation? No. No, it won't be like that at all. Promise? And we're working on, I can very much promise that. We're working on some other stuff for you, including a different, we also just recorded
Starting point is 01:04:30 something that is not as much about Derek Dooley, but is about Derek Dooley, weirdly. So my life, my projects are intersecting in challenging ways, let's say. We don't just talk about Holcogne and college football over there. We talk about other things as well we've done. hockey, WMBA, golf, no tennis yet, but I'll wrangle tennis into, and I will say this. Godfrey also texted me the other day and said, hey, what do you know about La Liga? And I said, almost nothing. He said, good, keep it that way.
Starting point is 01:05:03 So he apparently has something he wants to do with me on that. I don't know what it is yet. You can listen to Phantom Island, same place you're listening to this podcast. You can subscribe to the paid portion of the show at phantom island. dot show where you can ask god-free questions or submit topics or you know listen to we're not all like this we do a lot of fun things over there and yeah that's oh we also have a theme song coming up which server has been helping us edit it's from a like does it have words uh it does have words but it's not by it's from like a real band and we didn't we didn't pay them
Starting point is 01:05:40 for it we're just licensing it but i i if y'all don't know this band i don't I don't know who will, but I feel like Jason will. King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard. Oh, my God, really? Yeah. Okay, okay. How did you licensing? That seems expensive.
Starting point is 01:05:55 So server asked that as well. I asked, and I said, we can give you some money, not an absurd amount. They said, okay. And that was it. End of story. That's awesome. Hell yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:07 So business is business. I only know this via a TikTok that I will send you later. Okay. Good. They're doing the lizard and the lizard. Don't spoil it. Yeah, it's fun to say King Gizzard and the lizard, for sure. Spencer, where are you doing?
Starting point is 01:06:21 That leaves, yeah. What am I doing? Oh, listen, I am putting my thoughts and desires and delusions on the Internet weekly at Channel 6. That's right, with Holly Anderson, an outstanding writer and editor, producer, star podcast. Stop it. nice things about me. How dare you?
Starting point is 01:06:46 What back of house job would you have in a musical theater performance, Holly? Would? I've had all of them. No, I know, but if we had to pick one to say, like, do you want to be an electrician? Do you want to run a sound? I would prefer. If I could do it all over again and do something like full-time, I would probably be a lighting designer. Okay, great.
Starting point is 01:07:07 So add that to the list, Spencer. Yeah. Lighting designer. Holly Anderson. So I get paid to bother people about color shades. This week we've got coming. Thoughts on the video game. I hadn't really written about the video game in detail.
Starting point is 01:07:20 But now that I've played a significant amount of it, I think I can. I assume you mean the new Donkey Kong. Yes, that is what I mean. The most important college football game of Donkey Kong. You say it now. You haven't played Bonanza. I haven't played Bonanza yet, yet. So I am going to be writing about that at Channel 6.
Starting point is 01:07:41 in great detail, which you can read all about by signing up at Channel 6. It's in either one of our bios. It's linked all over the place. Just do it. $10 a month, two things a week. We have a series going that appears to be that are poised to become, like, the most popular thing we've ever done, which was kind of fun and unexpected. It was something that we just started because we wanted to do. And then we got a huge outsized response for it, which is the A Strength Coach Fixes Your Life series, which is exactly what it sounds like.
Starting point is 01:08:10 we have Ryan Napoli who those of you who've been with us for a really long time will remember when he created a what we called the bearded bear workout for us at EDSPS back in 2017 and he has graciously agreed during the off season to take advice questions from our audience which he's he's been around us for long enough to know what that is going to entail and he signed up to do it anyway and we love that about him Um, so stay tuned for one more installment of that this August, uh, before we get into football and release him to his real job. But, uh, he will, he will return next off season, uh, we hope. And we have really enjoyed having him, uh, educate our audience about various degrees of swallness and fitness manners, uh, this summer. Yes. Additionally, Hey, baby. Might have an, might have an, might have an every SEC game preview coming up. Oh, my God. Yeah. It's already, I already bear the scars of previewing every SEC game.
Starting point is 01:09:16 What? Does this in any way impact your view on whether the SEC should add another conference game like the big time? Like, have you? Oh, God. I hadn't thought about that. Oh, God. You know, the numbers aren't real at a certain point.
Starting point is 01:09:33 So fine. That's fine. So that there's 16 wouldn't matter? No, wouldn't matter. They really wouldn't. Like, it's just at that. It's kind of like doing the Appalachian Trail or the continental divide. You're just like, oh, no, add another state, whatever.
Starting point is 01:09:47 Like, I'm... Once you've had five kids, you've had six. That's right. I've often heard of blogging compared to hiking the AT. So, yeah, I think that's right. It's distance hiking, you know? Like, I think that goes for everything. At one point, if you're doing this long enough, somebody's like, oh, man, your feet look terrible.
Starting point is 01:10:05 And you look awful. And you go, another 800 miles. Ain't nothing to me. It was every day. We got to Mizzou's schedule, and my toenails fell off. Yeah. I got a resupply once we get to South Carolina. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:10:22 Hey, Serbs. How's your new show going? I do have a show called Podcast Arena that you can subscribe to. The tour kind of got super boring in the last couple of weeks because it wasn't really close at all. It was kind of a domination. You picked a good week to takeoff from updating us. yeah so there was nothing really to update that toddy pogacha has got so see last episode um but we got more episodes coming out soon with that um killer ants continues to be a band we're playing this sunday august third in ashville north carolina at the 27 club and then Winston salem at hoots on september 19th and Winston salem at monstercade on october 11th and green at the Flatiron on October 25th.
Starting point is 01:11:12 So Gilmore Girls episode coming from podcast arenas within the next week and recording an album next month. So music to be released this winter. Stay tuned. And I believe that concludes podcast business.

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