Shutdown Fullcast - "It's called JEOPARDY!" feat. Uncle Skip

Episode Date: February 16, 2022

FOLKS, we have corralled for your personal enjoyment one recent Jeopardy(!) winner, one former classmate of Cap'n Surber, one distant cousin of Holly's, and one dapper-dressed stay-at-home uncle, all contained within the form of East Bend, North Carolina’s own "Uncle" Lawrence "Skip" Long You may actually not ever guess where Jason is this week, at least not if you’re Spencer; fortunately we tell you right up front Elements introduced into the Lore this week include the concept of "wine uncles" as well as "luxury sideburns" One host spends this entire time trying to figure out whether or not this means they can get on Jeopardy or not Visit sunny preownedairboats.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

That's seriously not too much wind. All I hear is wind. Spencer's got enough wind. Welcome to the shutdown full cast. I'm being punished for telling you to keep it tasteful because we have company. No, yeah, a little bit.

It actually went like, I was like, well, how do you do it? Game show style. And then in the middle of it, I started to run out of breath so I got louder. And that's really, story of my life. I started to run out of breath, so I got louder. Then I just had to ride it back on it to like the classic finish because I can't do a proper game show voice

when I'm doing The Shutdown Fullcast. Welcome. It's not possible. By the way, that is our way of introducing you to the Shutdown Fullcast. This is the Internet's only college football podcast. You are listening to the dulcet and winded tones of Spencer Hall. Joining me as always, my co-host, Holly Anderson. Say hello, Holly. That was the dog, not me, making that noise.

Yes. And Jason Kirk, joining us from Windy Kennesaw, Georgia. I'm in Epcot, Canada. where I am. Windy, Epcot, Canada. I don't live in Kennesaw, Georgia. We're not doing that anymore. You live in...

Holy shit, he is an Epcot. Yeah. Here's the proof. Here's the Ottawa. The Ottawa Apple. Let's try this on here. No, really. Jason is currently on a Zoom call

live from the Canada Pavilion in Orlando, Florida. I want to go down by the waterfall, but it's too loud. The wind is making up for it, though. Are there any Epcot truckers there. Yeah, I'm here as part of the Canada Freedom Convoy. We're just walking back and forth.

Like... Do you down to ranch some Rams? Yeah, man. Me and the Ram Ranch boys. We're disrupting things. Took our pants off. That, for some reason, the rest of the Freedom Convoy didn't quite get the joke, but we kept our pants off. You can hear another voice on this podcast, so we'll jump

right to it. We do have a guest. on the podcast today in a very special one if you watched Jeopardy last week you may have seen a gentleman in mustache and a spanking vest underneath his suit coat

he is Lawrence Long who had I believe a three day run is that correct Lawrence three days on the fine program? Three days is correct yes it was a big time but it was not a long time but Lawrence advertised himself

with the program's full endorsement of said title as Stay at Home Uncle and in case the full cast was not going to let us know about this it turns out that we have more than a couple of connections to Lawrence anyway so we thought well we have to get this man on the program if we can some magic transpired via our North Carolina

mafia they made it happen and Lawrence Long Jeopardy Champion and a full cast listener that is correct yes yeah absolutely yes he admitted that in public we have it on record laurence long thank you for joining us first of all i'm going to ask the question everybody wants to know stay at home uncle how on earth did you one get that past the dudes on the show who approve all of this and two uh please speak to the accuracy of said title okay the accuracy is is strong like it's mainly what i do uh i pick up the niece i drive

driver to basketball practices, I prepare food for, I mean, like, it is, it is a labor of love and it doesn't pay well, but the rewards are eternal. How did I get it past the dudes at Jeopardy? I was, I knew as soon as they said, okay, we'll go with this. This conversation took place on October 24th of 2021. I called the producer there, and I was like, I kind of feel like a nursing student and a stay-at-home uncle and I explained to him a little bit why and he said oh that's a great story so it I mean it wasn't necessarily me entirely subverting the jeopardy process as much as them giving me the space to to tell that story a little bit um but yeah so stay-at-home uncle is is about the uh the the process of caretaking and that's uh that means a lot of different things but

But it also was the way in which we view identity is entirely based upon the way that we view it. And for me, it became a process of saying, what are you passionate about? Why are you in North Carolina? Why are you here? And making sure that my niece had enough space to thrive and grow up was what I was passionate about. And so you just go with that. That's beautiful. man now you are from uh what part of north carolina are you from east bend east bend of the

yadkin river server country yeah that is for those who are not quite as north carolina literate uh i believe this is part of the piedmont triad if you want to be yes real specific if that doesn't ring any bells uh it would be between i77 and just north of i 40 uh west of durham north of charlotte you have to frame it in terms of football schools just yes just just south of uh yeah green yeah and just west a little bit west to north of greensboro and winston salem just south of mount erie for those of you who are big fans of andy griffith um is that where you're from how did you end up there i was born in winston Um, and, uh, we moved out here when I was about seventh grade or so.

Did you know, you prior to being a stay at home uncle, I'm going to cover the work history before we get to Jeopardy because it's a fairly interesting work history. You initially said sommelier. Were you for real a sommelier before you became a stay at home uncle? And is this, is this the sassiest job resume ever? This is a real album of several tropes because now we have the extension of wine aunt into wine uncle. Yeah. Right. Yes, I was assembly. So I went to Clemson for my undergraduate and got a degree in English. And then I did something very peculiar, which was that I went to Naropa Institute and did a two-year physical theater program, which would have been my Friday anecdote if I had made it to the fifth game, was I studied the theater. of Jacques Lecoq, which is like mask work, clown, puppetry, mime, Charlie Chaplin-esque, Buster Keaton sort of stuff, but a very intense, like, confined art school sort of space. Neuropa is an entirely different basket of worms. Actually, I believe there, if you go back and check the records of the EDSBSBS charity ball, you might see

a contribution somewhere from the Naropa University fighting Shambales which is not at all their mascot. They don't play football but I used to make them as a school on NCAA 2006. I remember this because as a drama kid

I was like, we have somebody there and that always kind of put my mind. I remember this very specifically. Noropa is famous because Alan Ginsberg founded it and it has the Jack Carrow school of disembodied poetics it was founded by a also a monk who died at the age of 46 of cirrhosis of the liver you know it's a space it's a boulder is a fantastic weird space but so i did that

and then i came back to north carolina and i started working in wine production in north carolina which is a thing and then i moved to chicago um and at a restaurant on the north in Evanston, actually, Northwestern. Actually, Northwestern graduation was our big day of the year. I was at a restaurant with six hundred bottles of wine, ranging in price from $40 to $10,000 a bottle. What? I have to work in one more football joke about Neeropa,

which is that at home, we call it the Colorado School of Mimes. Which I'm kind of amazed they've never run with themselves. What kind of offense was Noropa running, by the way? Were you a spread? Were you running pro-style? Was it a triple option? I was running spread. Yeah, so this was around the time.

I was in Chicago during this time, and my friend and I were playing these dynasties. I actually remember that I applied to the University of Michigan head coaching position because they posted it online. And I had also run the NCAA 2006 had a Heisman mode. And so naturally, I went to New Mexico State and created. I just finished Ulysses, so I created a, like, a six-foot-six quarterback named Buck Mulligan and won the Heisman four times with him. And it was, we were running a version of the spread. And so that was on, I applied via email to the University of Michigan for their head football coaching position. I got an email in response that basically said, thank you for your interest.

The position has been filmed. But how did that work out for you, Michigan? I'm just going to say. you were a much cheaper spread offense candidate in the long run exactly right and do you know how hard it is to win the heisman at new mexico state that is a a place of uh well i actually did work in new mexico for a little bit so what were you doing okay this is again part of the job history not many people get to new mexico on purpose that's usually an accident there's a shockingly small number of people who live in new mexico hal mummy uh the spread offense god himself and father of the air raid used to say that when he recruited there, that there were more elk than people in New Mexico. How did you end up in New Mexico? So the financial crash of 2008 happened.

And at the time, I was actually trying to get a bartending gig in downtown Chicago because I'd moved to Chicago to pursue the arts, and I wasn't really being able to do that. So it was kind of bad timing on my part, But I went through six interviews for a downtown hotel daytime bartending gig that was scheduled, like said that they paid like $30 an hour. And I was like, if I can get in that pocket where I'm making $30 an hour, I'll be good to go and I can continue to do with my art stuff. And, you know, it's a livable space. I go through six interviews for a daytime bartending job, the last one.

And everyone else, one through five is like, we love your wine knowledge. we love your demeanor we love all of this stuff the last one is a dutch guy who's like a big executive within this hotel chain that shall not really shall not be named and uh he looks at me and he says your sideburns are not luxury and i don't know why you were passed on for this bitch your sideburns are not luxury right so we're like luxury sideburns explained at any point like That sounds like Renaissance shit. Like, I guess I'm picturing like enormous ancient mutton's chops or something. No, these were probably down to about just below year or so.

I mean, I was still working in Evanston at the time. But when the financial crash hit, I was kind of like, okay, well, this is obviously like trending this way. So I was, here's my financial advice to you as a Jeopardy champion. And don't buy real estate in 2007. I had purchased a condo in Chicago, you know, making a living, doing the Somelier thing. And then all of a sudden you're faced with having to pay mortgage payments in a bad market for people that are in the service industry. So I took a gig with the help of an uncle, by the way, in Deming New Mexico. Uncle Mafia.

I opened a food and beverage operations for a family entertainment center. winter. Deming, New Mexico is about 100 miles west of El Paso. Um, about 30 miles north of the border. There once was a Poncha Via raid there. And, uh, so this facility had 16 bowling lanes, six movie theaters, glow in the dark, putt, putt. And, uh, what was the other one? Oh, yeah, it had an arcade. New Mexico, not a Kalenberg. How did you ever leave? This place sounds awesome. Perfect place for uncles.

Well, my niece was born. My niece was born in, so that takes you in the time frame of 2009 to 2010. I was living in Las Cruces and driving to Deming every day. And my niece was born and so my services were needed back east. So you were living in Uncle Heaven, but then you became an uncle and had to leave it. Right. Yeah. That's how it works. You descended from Uncle Heaven to Earth. Right.

And then, you know, like, it takes, it takes a while to mold an uncle into the space that you want to. I had to learn. There's a learning curve for it. So you have to, you have to be adaptable and moldable. I have a, I have a question. I've, I read somewhere that your outfit, the first night of Jeopardy, you mentioned being molded, like, into an uncle. You mentioned that your outfit, the first night of Jeopardy was kind of like a tribute to, like, your uncle that, uh, that that did kind of help mold you.

What was, who was he? What was his lasting impression? And damn, he had great fashion. So my uncle Dave, who passed away in 2014, really taught me a lot about it. So my uncle Dave and my uncle John both went to Georgia Tech in the 1960s. They grew up in Cocoa Beach, Florida. So actually, let me take you one step back.

So before we get too much into the relationship, aspect. I am a byproduct of Tiger Gym, but the Tiger Gym was merged with one that I think Spencer would appreciate, which is that my grandmother was from New Zealand. And so you merge the Tiger Gym with the New Zealand aspects of it.

Kiwi South Carolinian is some rowdy energy. Yeah. Yeah, man. Where aren't you from? You're from everywhere. You got more hometowns than the rock. Right. Yeah, there's also a little bit, so my other grandparents were from Hamilton, Ontario and Person County, North Carolina, which is, you know, over towards Burlington.

But anyway, so my Uncle Dave was these two like brothers were going to Atlanta in the 1960s and going to Georgia Tech like you do. And they, Dave wound up becoming a civil engineer, but he did like, he had some sort of very peculiar PhD in like psychobiology from Florida State, which I was like, what does that even mean? Like so. Well, was your radicals named Buster by any chance? Right. Because I feel like we're heading for another origin story. Psychobiology is some metal gear shit. Right.

Yeah. Psychobiology is nanobots and silica. I looked at your arm from Florida state as well too like what are they doing so actually my uncle wound up doing like H-back work for hospitals which involved so there was a point in time where we were at the beach and my aunt hot my auntie hot who is a one of like the direct Anderson descendants she was the one that moved to Las Cruces she was visiting the beach that week for our family reunion and my uncle Dave and my mom were there and they were having a conference late at night my uncle Dave who had been working on

HVAC units for the hospitals had brought two industrial smoke bombs and to show them my my cousin John who's in the photos that he's the one officiating the wedding he's Dave's son and he had a set one off on the beach and it just like there was smoke everywhere they use these things to test the ventilation systems in hospitals so we're all in this beach house together and all of a sudden smoke starts pouring out of the ventilation systems and everybody that's in the house knows exactly what's going on so we're all cool we're just like hey let's you know smoke's come in let's just go outside the neighbors don't necessarily

know that so you start getting fire my mom my uncle Dave take off down the beach not even knowing that it's my great aunt that actually suggested like at a run like your mom flees the scene yeah my mom leaves the scene at this point in time my dad had been engaged in a

drinking game with my two cousins and my two cousins had been drinking had been cheating excuse me and so my dad was left to discuss to the fire marshal while like absolutely shit faced that it was just the kids, you know, in their smoke bombs, setting things off.

And, you know, that was why they had to call all of the Pauley's Island, like, emergency services. We actually made that, that incident made the state in Columbia. Your uncle, your uncle, your uncle resume, that, that's like a deeply strong uncle resume already. I'm going to try to find this article now, all right? Yeah, you find, you find the article using the Canadian Disney Internet. it would have been probably like right after hugo so early 90s yeah because they hadn't suffered enough down there right this is this is very like your uncle resume is already very very strong you have the diverse employment background including seemingly

unrelated professions next to each other on the resume you also have the experience of having an ancestor named Tiger Jim and Smokebombs. What else goes into the uncle resume as far as rowdy behavior eccentricities and or other assorted lore that your niece is obviously going to have to pass down? I think that you have to approach it from the standpoint of being a vessel for it. Right? Like you can't plan the rowdy behavior. You just have to, like, for me, it became a question of looking at my niece and wanting her to take on challenges with Augusto, with a fear that no matter if she failed, that the love and the support of the uncle would be there.

And this is also coincides with my own capacity and own desires to undermine my sister, who I love very much. but like that's that's the way an uncle has got to be has got to be supportive on one hand you can't have one without the other just simple uncle chaos without the support i mean it's not the same flavor it's you think it's listen makes makes you think now you are currently preparing to uh you're taking pre-rex for nursing school right but while you're doing this you apply for Jeopardy. One, are you a long-time fan? Moderately.

So I'm more of a long-term trivia player. Our mutual North Carolina friend and I like to go into to, so I live near Wake Forest. And I don't know if you know about how much Wake Forest costs, but it's a little bit of money. So one of the favorite pastimes is to go into bar trivias and dust up some law students. you know dust up some medical students uh the trivia the jeopardy aspect of it uh yes i was i mean i watched it when i was a kid but i was not specifically like steeped in the lore of jeopardy in the way that i probably should have been um which is a preparation question but uh yeah i mean i was a fan of jeopardy but i always say i was a tagged with it so you you take the online test you are then

when was that? Spencer's trying to figure out if he has been I'm totally using you I'm totally I'm totally you're trying to figure out if Jeopardy's going to call you back

full disclosure I am currently part of this process allegedly okay I actually there were some tweets that I saw of yours and I was prepared I was prepared

I was like if I walk in there and Spencer is standing there like I need to be prepared for that so no but he wasn't because you bested him already you bested me already by not only being on the

but winning like i am now i read i read claire mcnear's book and we'll get to this but i'm convinced that i would go in and just skunk because there are so many people who are obviously really smart who get on the show also there's a lot of paperwork involved to get there's true uh and you and i and so many smart people who get there and just absolutely get skunked you apply uh you take the online test in 2020 correct is around march yes september so march september 2020 you take the online test When did they call you back about anything? June was the first one, which I'm guessing that it came.

Because you can do it online now, I guess that they were starting that process of applying for the next season coming up once they had gotten. Because Jeopardy goes into the offseason, I think, in May. So I think that it was around that time that they started doing. That was around the time that I heard of a number of people starting to get calls. And then when did you actually get to... I love you doing this math. I'm sorry.

I want to give an idea of people for like how long this is going on. You're just like going about your life. When did they actually give you the call to be like, hey, come out to L.A.? So I took the second test in June. I did a follow up and a gameplay. So I had auditioned once before in 2013. And during that time, I got called to New York and went in and took a second test in person. and auditioned and, like, did a little bit of interview and gameplay portion there.

This time, the difference is that I knew that I had passed the second test because they gave me a call for a second Zoom session where they did an interview and a gameplay. They never tell you specifically, like, what it takes to pass the test. There are rumors about what it is, but they never actually tell you whether or not you passed. And then I, that happened late July and early August. I actually went out to New Mexico to empty out a storage unit, which had been rented since I left in 2010, which I did, and then I got back and I got the call in the end of October.

And when you go out there, like, what is, what is, like, do you go out there and is, like, a cattle call? Are you waiting? Do they tell you exactly when you're going on? Or is it just kind of, hey, be here for a week? we might use you we might not no they tell you when they're when you're flying in they will give you a an exact date so I got a tape date and said we guarantee that you will be on one show that's not necessarily the case if you are in California and can easy and get to the studio easily more easily they use a number

of alternates there and so there were there was a woman that I played in my second game who had been an alternate the day before at taping and they just called her back for that so what they said is we guarantee you one episode of jeopardy you have to win to keep going from there but uh if you fly out which they don't pay for until you actually win um if you fly out you have you get one game so um i was looking at it and looking at the expenses of flights and and everything else and i was like well i absolutely have to get second place because unlike wheel of fortune if you get $10,000 and finish in third place in wheel of fortune you get $10,000 if you get $50,000 in jeopardy and you finish in third place you get $1,000 that's it yeah so I was like I have to get second place nothing else like matters because it's the difference between $1,000 and $2,000 so there was somebody online that said I was playing like I owed somebody my life and I felt like that was a high compliment it's called

jeopardy it felt like you're in danger come on now right exactly thank you um what category were you hoping not to see because I always think about I always think about this I'm like well what would I not want to see like I don't want to see if I get up there and it's like the Bible I'm out I've done I'm oh for the whole column I'm not getting a single thing right Yeah, I think the ones that I struggle with in that term, I knew I was pretty soft on pop culture, like songs after 2015. Like I knew that I was weaker on that because there's not as much where you can just go and look at like, okay, here was. Like, Jeopardy likes the list stuff that you can learn as opposed to learning like culturally. where that is. And for me, like, the 90s stuff is much easier because I grew up during that time

period, whereas I'm not as tapped into, you know, Spotify or all of these things that creates a cultural context now. So to any extent is that because, like, music used to be very clear. It's based on albums sold. And now everything is, like, streaming has messed everything up. Like, I would imagine that makes it harder to predict what they might ask about. Because, like, now there might be some musician who's very famous, but it has never seen. sold a single CD. Right. Yeah.

And I, for me, it was like, okay, what are you looking at specifically? Are you looking at the, the albums? Are you looking at, you know, charts or things like that? So it's, and even then, like, you're not just going and looking at a list of things. Say, if you looked at the top songs of 2018, you need more context for a lot of the pop culture stuff because my thesis on it is that I used to call it vibes that Jeopardy, like, asks you a vibes based question and what i mean by that is like they won't in the category of like history they'll ask you something that is that is uh they'll ask you about an opera using the

historical context of it so let's say like this opera which was written so they want you to take these two keywords opera and the the egypt and they want you to get to iida right like so it's They're using context clues that if you don't know something immediately, you can actually like use this technique to take a tuning fork and ring one thing and then ring another thing and then the synthesis of the answer is there. To do that at a fast rate is is pretty amazing. Now there's a myth, I think, about Matt Emodio, that he was that he was saying what's and then like doing this calculation in his head. like if he was doing that that's insane that's like the next level of what this is as a sport go go go go back over that for those who might not be familiar who is that and what was he doing alive okay so matt emotio started in season 37 and then won 38 games over one and a half

I don't know the exact figure on it I mean I was studying a lot of his games leading up to it And I think in one game, I remember looking at it, and Matt Emodio rung in on 44 of the potential, he got 44 of the potential 61 clues right in the game, which is just like, you showed up on Jeopardy, you know? They should have, they should have Call of Duty kill street music for that. Like if you're doing that. That would be an amazing Twitch thing to do. It really would be. That's like Steph Curry Greenlight. Pavelo inbound.

So what people are thinking is that he is buzzing and then using that extra second or two to continue formulating his answer? Like what did they base that theory on? He would phrase every answer as what's, regardless of if it was a person or not, he'd said, like it was George Washington. He'd say, what's Washington? And people were getting mad at him for the, you know, because people get mad at people. So like he had trained himself, it's almost like he had trained himself. like to have two physical reflexes to buzz in at a certain moment to you know and then to have that that what's as a beat while his brain is just working in the background the entire time trying

to get part two of the question that's exactly that's just smart to me I'm sorry get partials yeah I I would just he's he's like speed running you know this is this is a this is a super Mario conundrum what a cliff jump though what's hope the word arrives every time it's a cliff jump every time like I can't not respect that like I get why people are mad at it

but I can't not respect that I do I do like that he is he's basically taking my airport approach but with Jeopardy he's like I will do everything I can to miss the flight and still make it fuck it Cooper Cup down there somewhere yeah Cooper cup down there somewhere

server whatever you're going to say I just wanted to come to Uncle Skip's defense for a moment there was a moment I can't remember which I think it was your second when they they got you for something they were like what and yeah that's correct and watch your phrasing and I and I got so I got so hot I was like that's bullshit that's just east bin man he there was a form of a question you just don't know that's your problem all right I just want to come to your defense right I mean if we were doing this in

Spanish or French like the question is implied just by the way that you raise your voice Exactly. Thank you. Yeah. No, I just, that was that moment, I found myself passionately getting up out of this exact chair and being like, uh-uh, he said it right. You just weren't listening. With the buzzer, I also want to ask you, the buzzer is, uh, the buzzer's tricky.

Is it not? People do not seem to realize this. That the buzzer has its own sort of like delay. It doesn't, you can't ring in until, uh, the host is done saying the question and not a second. before like it's a it is an unusual thing that like i know uh from claire's book reading that people have a lot of trouble with yes i and i read claire's book as well um and and when i got there you know she she lays out the kind of differences of opinion about the ways to go about it whether you go off the light or you go off the sound of the the host's voice and so i'm

trying to process that while i'm there and i found that when i tried to process that i could never get in and that I had to completely zone out of it to actually be able to answer a question on it you kind of have to just dissociate from thinking about the buzzer to actually for me at least to to to get in do you get so you do you get like practice with the buzzer and like adjusting to how long it takes shout out clear by the way SB nation alum i Claire mcnure that's true yeah the book is phenomenal but like do you do you get to uh push the buzzer and see what happens like before you're actually live and everything so the they do a practice game and you play the practice game in segments um the uh so you don't play it like you

everybody has to be have rung in on the buzzer at least once or twice uh for them to move on the practice the the segments there then but what they do in that practice round is they leave the scores up so you're you're taking on it becomes like a podium relay race and so you i was in the middle podium with kelsey who played in my four in my last game and dave who is the current champion and uh we were you know like for the rest of the day we were looking each other to just be like middle pot because the middle podium won the uh the the practice game of jeopardy and i was actually super nervous when they called me first because i you know i was trying to hide a little bit from the glare of all the contestants and they picked me first and I'm like I just didn't

want to be picked first and then Kelsey comes up to me and she just like raises her fist as I'm getting my makeup done and she says middle podium and also like all right cool and then like as we're getting ready to play in the in what wound that be my final game like Kelsey comes up to me and we just have this kind of like quiet moment of respect and then uh then she kicked my ass on the thing so you know respect to Kelsey and for all of that for all of that As-kicking, she got $2,000. So I'm so glad that she beat me in that game because at least, you know, by that point I'd won enough money.

So the extra thousand is definitely useful to her, I hope. So like when it comes to preparing for Jeopardy, my main question is like, is listening to the shutdown forecast, is that like resistance training? Yeah. Like if your brain can remain smart while listening to this dumbass podcast, does that like Yeah. Add difficulty to your training? My answer, as with all things, is muscle confusion, right, guys?

That's right. It's a proven system. It affects your body. How does it help by not helping at all? Yeah. It's about working harder. Yeah, not smarter. Right.

And I think that that like the capacity to process all of it, because if you I mean, I sent you guys those Sporkel playlist that I was doing. If that's all that you do, you're not going to do well. Because that type of knowledge takes a long time to graft onto your brain. Like I did years ago, I did all the capitals. And it took me a long time to get 120 Supreme Court justices in my head. I did the flat, like, as you do that more and more, you start to pick up the ability to do that. So I was like super proud that I picked up 206 world flags in the span of like a week.

And I was like, oh, that's awesome. I did not get a flag category, which I would have, you know, destroyed. But doing that type of preparation was just simply a part of it. And it's something that in terms of the way that schools are being taught now, they don't teach that recall. Like when I learned the presidents, I learned to do this rhyme thing with the presidents. But it doesn't give you any context for it. I'm glad you brought that up, though, because like I'm not a Jeopardy person.

and i haven't read claire's book although she is a wonderful talent uh is my failing not hers but like gathering this information and retaining this information and synthesizing that information are three completely discreet skill sets and like being good at just two of them isn't enough in a situation like this well i was uh i spencer will be happy to hear this i was having trouble with synthesis clues. I realized about two weeks out that I was not going to be a super champion. Like my scores were just not good enough and you have to, you have to process that in a way. And my thought being like, if I had a year to prepare the way that I prepared for the last six weeks, I could have gotten to the point where I was unstoppable. But I knew that there were just

so many gaps and so much stuff that I couldn't quite fill in. And you have to, you have to code that timing in over repetition. And so I knew that. that that was coming. I mean, I also knew that I could like win a game here or there. But when I realized that, one, it was like incredibly freeing. So Spencer will be happy to know that two weeks out, I started doing the New York Times crossword. And that like the crossword helps you like take those those clues that are, you know, the the Ringling Brothers Karamaz off, which is not actually a thing, but you're synthesizing something out of two disparate things. And it's also a great way to make a whole bunch of topical Halloween costumes.

Right. I was that you had to have kind of a broken brain to be really good at Jeopardy. Like there's lots of smart people on Jeopardy and there's lots of smart people with broken brains because any other person cycles a lot of this information out for organizational purposes and storage. Just a well-clean brain, just, you know, shuffling all of this stuff around. Whereas somebody who's good at Jeopardy is a hoarder. They've just hoarded all of this stuff. stuff in their brains and they don't know where to put it.

And in fact, sometimes it just like sticks together, right? And just that's basically what they count on happening is that you'll have enough of these things stuck together that you'll answer, you know, 47 out of 61 questions or whatever. Right. And, and, uh, surgeons don't always do the best on Jeopardy and they're like, oh, well, you have this beautiful machine of a mind that does this thing. And it's, it's clear of all, I mean, if I knew all the things that I knew, I would probably not want. me operating on people so yeah this said by somebody who is going into a medical profession that is what you are preparing to do but also like i'm now i've been on jeopardy so i can let it go hopefully like that's the next step um but post game what did you do like you just kind do you just

kind of have to like book a flight home you're like well i got to leave burbank i knew that i was i knew uh that i was leaving the next day because the next taping day had a I won. It was going to be, I think, December 13th. So they're like, and they will fly you back if you, um, they'll fly you back if you win. Um, so they're like, they cleared that with me. Um, but when I flew back, I was just, uh, it was kind of a very, like, I didn't process it very much until I was flying back from, uh, Denver, which was, you know, like, it was a very, very, I was exhausted. Um, so I had, um, so I had. I had to book my flight out there. Okay, sorry, I got that backwards. Okay. I was like, they made you do like a three hop?

Okay. It was just two. Offensive. Yeah, I went to Charlotte. You're a hero. Damn, couldn't even get in PTI. I hate to see it. Right.

Yeah. Couldn't even, couldn't even give you on the get you on the jeopardy. Wait, did you get to fly out of Burbank, though? No, I flew into LAX. Actually, so. What the fuck, man? I knew that they I knew that I had to be on the Sony lot on the 29th for a COVID screening so they said you have to get here Sunday so I flew on Thanksgiving day and I went and I have some friends that live in Palm Springs I went to Palm Springs for a few days and I purposely said like I'm not putting anything else in my brain until I play the game because anything that I cram in now is going to just go out immediately. So I was in Palm Springs for a few days.

And, you know, when I've never been to Palm Springs. This is the only good Tim of year to go to Palm Springs. Right. Because it's not 90. My, is there any benefit to like pruning brain cells in that process? Like, like, you don't want to add any more stuff. Do you also, like, have a few adult beverages to sort of, sort of trim away cells that aren't pulling their weight? It will help you, certainly.

Yeah. I mean, if you, if you can take. the edge off of like the nerves that happen yeah i mean any any like marginal advantage that you get there i mean we used to go bowling at a place in chicago where you know like you would get a miller high life and you put some bob seeger on the jukebox and like that improves your score like if you drink like a certain amount of miller high lives i mean any amount of bob seeger is obviously like enough performance enhancer yeah is this right that one beer that makes you really good at Yeah, I think so.

Yes, exactly. Yes. Okay. But like if you reach past the tipping point, it just becomes a mess. Right, right. Everybody's reaction to Magic Beer is specific to their own fitness goals. I will, without any further notation or support, remind everybody that one of the greatest celebrity Jeopardy players of all time was Cheech Marin. Just, just saying, man was probably in the right frame of mind.

the speed there he had the speed that's the impressive part well if you go in too fast you get locked out so cheat you have to be just right right and whatever that balance is between calming your nerves and still maintaining enough motor control to do it

that's you know that's where Cheech Marin just laps this all yeah like the greatest like the greatest celebrity player are people like I think Jerry Orbach Jerry Orbach was a monster on Celebrity Jeopardy as was I think Michael McKean was really good Michael McKean is a beast

Cheech Marin was really good There's a lady I'm forgetting who was really really good too Thanks Yeah I mean there's there's You're a real hero Sorry ally Ally

What But yeah I'm sure there was a girl girl in there too. There's a lady. Some broad. Shout out to the ladies who are smart, by the way. All the ladies.

Way to go, dames. I'd like to thank all of you. This is what he's really like. Yeah, all the time. Was it Carol, Rosie O'Donnell, or Terry Gar, Paula Pallonston? I assume I was Terry Gar. Jane Casmaric.

Jane Casmaric did uh you can't just name a lady no no no it was Jane Casmaric she did no she did really well as did Iisha Tyler okay babe was it Yasmin Dayshaylor's got something like advanced degree doesn't she yeah yeah yeah she's she's she's she's a real no I remember when I was doing interviews for Archer she's like got some kind of is it biology yeah she's got some kind of crazy degree she is super she is a big old nerd super smart as we all look it up what is ayesha tyler's degree how is this about to compliment you and say

you're so much better than we are on hand in the dirt like you guys vamp and figure out a way to to make the time pass we're just like right let's go let's real quick and then 10 seconds to silence wait you produce this show and that tells me that you very smartly tune us out because the number of times that we have read aloud

as we type oh I'm sorry it wasn't biology it was environmental policy yeah she went to Dartmouth Shouts up for her going to the one fun ivy. The drinking ivy. Yeah, the drinking ivy. While we look this up, I just report from Epcot, Canada. A squirrel finished one of my beers.

So that is pretty exciting. A squirrel. A cup was overturned with a little bit left in it, and a squirrel walked up, walked in, and walked back out happier. So shout out to that sport. Alcoholic Squirrels of Disney. This is going to be a... You don't know that it's alcoholic. Freedom Trucker Squirrels of Disney.

That squirrel just likes to party. You don't have a problem. It might just be Canadian. Oh, that's where truck nuts. Canadian Party Squirrel. This is going to be the best episode of Rescue Rangers. I cannot wait to see it. I have a question for you.

I'm Johnny Knoxville, and this is Canadian Party Squirrel. Has the full cast ever covered the 2015 documentary Finders Keepers? No. No, we have not. Oh, and I know nothing about it. Holly seems to know what it's about. I'm going to shut up because this is going to be a fun reveal for at least one of you. Okay, so Finders Keepers takes place in Maiden, North Carolina.

Maiden is just like before Lake Norman was a thing, there was Maiden, which meant that you were way out in the country, probably about 40 minutes away from Charlotte on the northwest side. in the early parts of the 2010s a nominally famous reality show sort of storage works guy buys the contents of a storage unit which include a smoker grill

he opens up the smoker grill and finds a human foot in it a partially preserved human foot in it I am spoiling the first three minutes of this movie for you No, this is how it starts, yes. This is how it starts, right.

It turns out that this foot belonged to a guy who had lost it in a plane crash in which his father died. To honor his father, he then asked the hospital to give him the foot, thinking that he was going to get a series of bones that he could preserve and have as a tribute to his late father. uh he did not realize that he would be getting a piece of flesh with it within the first three minutes of this movie like he gets the foot like a dissected pig and in a biology class in high school exactly like yeah they handed to him like that's acting it being from maiden north carolina he has a friend who works at heart east and yeah yeah he takes the foot to the friend who works at hardies and drops the foot off in their walk-in freezer because obviously you need some sort of cold storage for a human foot he turns out of the hardy's parking lot and his phone rings immediately and it is the manager of said hardies who is not very happy about the uh the presence of a foot First of all, terrible op-sec, because this happens, like, right away. Yeah.

Like, they are caught. I will say this with respect. They are caught immediately. Couldn't be me. I'm built different. Yeah. And right. And so he, of course, because he was already, his car was already started,

why would you park your car and go into the store? No, he goes through the drive-thru and has his foot passed back through him, back to him, through the drive-thru at a hearties. And that is all within the first five minutes. of the movie um it's incredible i don't know if there is a criterion for the full cast but it is it's very special like full and made in north carolina is a place that you know is is a place is that is that is that's that's that's sorry yeah that was in willington okay it's the first of the great teen soap shoots everyone from north carolina when they say where

they're from because north carolina has a thousand different small towns all of completely indiscriminate geographical like positioning like there's no rhyme or reason it could be anywhere like vancouver america right so when anyone's like oh i'm from the way that the way that i describe it is that uh horny town is on the way to climax which is just past welcome fair enough not far from meat camp my favorite name in all of north carolina uh i just always ask Is that where they shot Dawson's Creek? That's, yeah. Like, I'm from Meat Camp.

Is that where they shot Dawson's Creek? Did you meet Vanderbeek? Oh, my God. Right, which our state government decided to cut off those funds. They cut off the tax credits and it all went down to Georgia. Yeah, way to go, dickheads. Woo! I do like the idea of the Avengers in an alternate reality where they don't do that being shot and like Carrie.

Right? like Greensboro Home of the Avengers Looking out over the surf beach bars Upstate New York Holy shit the Avengers looks a lot like eastbound and down Do y'all I can't remember if we've talked about this before

Do you all know why I mean I guess the Carolinians know But do the rest of y'all know why all of Like that Danny McBride Jody Hillhive shows are set in the Carolinas from he's from he went to school of the arts yeah here in Winston there that whole hive went to ncSA but after i forget it i forget if it was after eastbound and down or like during vice principals but at one point that whole cadre like pulls up sick because they're living in los angeles

at the time that whole cadre that went to ntsa and then where that went to ncsa and then went off to make movies picks up like with their entire families and they all move back to south Carolina like they all live there now and all of those movies like this is why this is just one reason that the I'll talk about this for 15 minutes why the righteous gemstones is so good because it's all getting made like locally and all of the all of the talent is coming like this is why you have accents that you don't have to you know crawl under the bed an embarrassment from on righteous gemstones but they they all moved like with their families to south Carolina and we're like yeah California sucks

we live here now I literally said that last night when we were watching the new righteous gemstones Edie Patterson was saying something I just looked over to Chelsea and I was like this is the only fucking show that gets like that gets it that this is the only one that's not like what it looked Logan lucky or whatever because they went there

to marinate in it yeah Ozark is playing at our house I have to leave the fucking living every time there's one character on it they have not gotten better it has my ear hurts I have to I don't watch either my parents watch it, so I just have to hear it. Whereas.

But like, they've been making that show for a long time, and no one has gotten better at voices. Whereas you've got Adam Devine, who's from Iowa, but I'm convinced atmospherically has picked up a perfect Carolina accent because he said, I can grasp a cup. What he says, when he says, no, uh, yes, there is. No, uh. It's pitch perfect. Beautiful. He's the one character at the show where I'm like, oh, I knew that guy. I knew that guy.

It was in pitch perfect, and I love that for you. He, uh, the entire, the entire thing is completely authentic. And that's before, that's before you let Danny McBride loose. Like, Danny McBride actually might have the most subtle accent. He's the guy from there. But they're all completely pitch perfect and correct. That is right down to, by the way, Eric Roberts, who from Memphis, I don't know. Eric, hall pass Roberts, as he's known in my home.

Eric, Eric Roberts, canonical film. now after this role in righteous gemstones as the uncle for which the uncle buster sweatpants are named that man that man that man showed up and he looks like he walked right out of Shelby County it's beautiful yeah so there's a there amongst the jeopardy online community there there's a tendency on one particular board and I'm not going to call anybody out but on the game that I lost that uh this particular person said that they got 58 questions right like you can just post whatever you want to up there uh they're like yeah i got 58 questions right and i missed eric roberts and i missed uh kids in the hall and my response to which is if those are the only two questions that you missed you missed the most important ones because what's wrong with your life i don't know you but i hate you right so i mean like it's it's a phenomenal experience to be on jeopardy but i mean if i If I could get 58 questions right, I, yeah, no, I mean, if you could, would I trade that for having never seen best of the best? Never. Never. I would, I will die and fly straight to hell on the wings of a giant bat before I give up seeing best of the best. The finest Taekwondo movie ever made with Eric Roberts and James Earl Jones. There's a scene in that movie, by the way, still one of my favorites. They're like, you got to face the North Korean Taekwondo team. And they flash to like the North Korea.

and Taekwondo teams like regimen and they're all under freezing waterfall shirtless going like and as a kid i was like that's what being an adult is like were you wrong isn't this the one where there's a key like there's like an advice point that's like if all else fails punch him in the nuts basically yeah yeah there's another like extreme there's a very loud american texan type character who wears a cowboy hat to let you know he's from texas and he says things on the side encouraging. I'm like, Tommy, drum him like a toilet seat. I'm like, who beats up toilet seats?

That Texas chili, brother. Me? When that Texas brisket is moving through you, that's how it works, brother. Just hold on tight. Two big reds and a gallon of chili. The eyes of Texas are not

upon me, because if they were, they'd be horrified. Don't look. Please don't look. Shameful things are happening in this. I am gigging it. It's gigging me, brother. These Raiders have read me the riot act. This is like Texas Tech. I have no defense for this.

Wow. Where are we now? Where are any of us, really? Lawrence, I have no further questions for you. Do you have any further questions? for us as a full cast listener who is making it. Or answers. Yeah, or answers.

Answers in the form of questions. Yeah. Uh-huh. As the official stay-at-home uncle of both Jeopardy and this podcast. Um, I have two points of quick order. One is which, um, obviously being on the full cast is such an honor and a privilege. I miss not being able to see Ryan. And if I saw Ryan, I would tell him that my favorite part of the full cast is when he, I

actually makes up musicals and that this is a game show format perhaps spencer grew as to like spencer got too smart for the the the music content but uh that i could listen to ryan make up musicals all day right so please tell him that please tell him congratulations i have i want to pitch you guys on something that happened last week which was the um the the the grand theft auto right so i have have perhaps a scenario in which grand theft auto can be made now for this we have to get absolutely positive we have to get executive creditor for treb law because our grand theft auto opens in the smoldering remains of a burned down coffee shop bathroom in shamokin pennsylvania yeah And you can choose between three different characters. You can choose to be Alba, who, you know, likes the donuts at Dunkin' Donuts. You can choose to be Dutch who drinks PowerAid and talks to his attorneys.

Or you can choose to be Edna, who absolutely, now Pennsylvania, as a Grand Theft Auto universe, you've got Pittsburgh, you've got Philadelphia, you have Central Pennsylvania. with all of its corrupt judges. Ed Rendell could be a character. Freddie Mitchell could be a character in this. You could have art heists at the Barnes collection. Andy Warhol could be adjacent to it. Can we kill Hitchbott?

Like, can killing Hitchbott be a mission? Absolutely. You have, you have, you have, final boss Hitchbott. You could, you could die and drown in a dumpster pool, you know?

Like the non-playable characters, You know, the words that would come out of the NPC mouth would be just an incredible cross-section of that. So that, I mean, I fully give, I mean, I'm willing to share credit for that for just synthesizing it. But it's Treblah, and you guys have written that. It's just out there. You have unlocked Scrapple. You can even have pregame training, like where this has to unlock by voice, but you have to say Grand Theft Auto in the correct Pennsylvania accent. Grand Theft Auto

like a breathalyzer test before it'll even let you drive Grand Theft Auto That's how you know you're ready to exit training mode The three city maps that flow together so well Pittsburgh, Central and Philly Like, it's so distinct Even if you're not from Pennsylvania

You could immediately look at any block Of any of them and know where you are This is genius, this is perfect Let's let's I'm going to be disappointed Whatever they announce if it's not Pennsylvania Loosely based missions on the movie striking distance as well what was what i'm sorry what was the boat cops movie with michael keaton set in pittsburg no that is striking distance it's bruce willis that striking distance

that is striking distance yeah you are a river boat cop with uh dennis farina and sarah jessica parker yes yes and you know in in pittsburg they would have they would have some sort of spoof of bane taking over the football stadium. We got that going on. You call him like pain or something like that, lame, taken over the football stadium. Santa Claus. This is perfect.

Yeah, you can beat up Santa Claus again. You got a defeat Robot Santa Claus. We can't have that. Santa can't come back to Philly. We'll show them again. You have unlocked batteries. Pro batteries. You have to earn money at the donut shop in Shemokin.

You've got to go back and collect. It all starts because you go back there. You got to fight your way out of the football. Yale in Philly. The amount of like ATV materials you could have, you know, in Western, I mean, the vehicle mods are just incredible. I think you should have to fight your way out of every building you enter in Philly, right? Like you can't enter a building without three people trapping you in at the door.

Be like, bring it. See a way to be sure. Yeah. I love this idea. Crantheft Auto, the PA story. This is a beautiful idea, Lawrence. And now that you've said it on this podcast, I believe you're entitled to a 20% royalty,

since this is going to be split between five of us. Yeah, that's so good. Oh, my God, my skin is crawling. That's an idea that's going to hold water. I'm hearing more Baltimore. I think I'm hearing more Baltimore. You know, I just watch the Super Bowl, and Al Michaels is not out of your sister.

We got to get, we got to get Kersner, we got to get Kersner and Treblah on as executive executive producers here. How do you sell that in a brown wrapper for the ears? Treblos is just going to post, like, Treblos going to make sure that the design contains entirely too many surgical dummies and instructional dummies, right? Just sort of floating with their mouths agape and their unceasing eyes, like, looking, yeah, in the middle of, like, burning coal, slag heaps. Oh, this is, this is perfect. You had me at burning coal slag heaps. I know. You had me at burning slag heap.

Oh, that's, that's right. That's right. Betty's reminding, Betty's reminding us that, that we do, we have, we have, to do one thing, which is we've neglected to plan for the future, right? We've been so present in the moment. For instance, Lawrence, you've just won a substantial sum of money, and perhaps you're willing, you're wondering where you're going to put it. Jason, do you have any suggestions for him? Well, if I were you or Canada Party Squirrel is back, here's a look at Canada Party Squirrel. If I were that squirrel and I were looking to invest my...

nuts or my acorns I would go to acorns.com slash fullcast to deposit those into the internet and then I would set the buttons to do the things that create more money which involve investment and those can be done at acorns.com slash

forecast and when you do enough of those things you get to stop working at your job and how it works is via economics economics which by the way field apparel.com uh-huh Tell me more.

Well, it's got shirts. Shirts, NC State, by the way, for Homefield Apparel this week, NC State dropping a fire-ass collection of shirts. Most of the time when we talk about NC State, there's a gentle tone of mocking, as in the most 8 and 4 program at its peak in college football history. And yet, yet, all respect due to them this week because the NC State Collection at HomefieldApparel.com

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Looks superb on you, Lawrence. If I may say so myself. The cat. I love that angry kitty. He looks electro-shocked. Yeah. I mean, that's how you feel when you wake up every morning in Montana. Electro-shocked, mostly by the cold.

Homefield apparel.com. What is the promo code there? Fullcast. Why, that'd be full-cast. It'd get you 20% off your first order. Uh, I think that's all you need to know. Serber, I really love the script, Caroline, on your shirt right now. Yeah, I just, I just want to say, I, like, I'm a Clemson fan.

I've been a Clemson fan since I was five years old, even though my grandmother tried to pull me the other way. We like you. We like you. But I wear this because these shirts are so fucking comfortable, man. They're really awesome. And Clemson, you should really get on board. I don't know what the fuck you're waiting for. Because right now, you're currently getting cucked by the cocks, because I'm wearing their shirts,

because they're better than anything I can get with your logo on it. Cox cucked. Woo-hoo-hoo-hoo. Do you hear that, Clemson? You hear that, Dabo? You hear that? The challenge. The gauntlet has been thrown.

Dabo, Dabo doesn't know what that word. Dabbo don't know what that word means, but... The red solo cup has been thrown at your feet. Fuck you and your woo-hoo-hoo's in the goddamn fight song. That is right. Hail to the comfy t-shirt. That's what you say to dabbo to get him super fired up. I wanted to say one thing with acorns.com currently saving my money so that I can buy a piece of the moon.

Because I love nothing more than articles that say economists say, because it just means like one person said it. And then somebody else was like, that's possible. And then the person writing the headline could go, economists say that we should, privatize the moon in order to relieve poverty on earth there i'll do it yeah in i'm in dibs we're going to be privateers on the moon we're going to find those we're going to find those snakes they're real and they're up there and we were right all along we're going to find them for ryan yeah bring him back shower him in snakes as a baby present welcome home oh i had another thing that i meant to mention to you guys i had a conversation with server yesterday about this so

For the EDSBS charity pool, Spencer has taken a lot of Michigan tattoos, and we all know how it's going to end. And my uncle was a Georgia Tech graduate. I have two uncles that are Georgia Tech graduates. I have an aunt that's a Michigan graduate. So what I would offer to you as a, you know, whatever, whatever kind of offering it is, is for the third place team in the charity bowl, I have no tattoos on my body. that team can put something on my body. I just felt comfortable with it. It might be Texas A&M. It might be. It might be the Aggies.

Right. Yeah. I'm okay with that. I love it here. We're building something great here. It's fantastic. I love it here. I don't know how many times you got to tell you. I love it here. And when people say, but it might be Georgia. Go dogs. Yeah, no. It might be Georgia. They might finish third, which they're more used to than what happened this year. But if you get the Aggies one, just remember, it pisses me off. that people suggest you wouldn't want to get an Aggie's tattoo. It's a great education.

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