Shutdown Fullcast - MOON 2 DECLINES PAC-12 INVITE

Episode Date: September 25, 2024

This podcast does not know who is in the Pac-12 right now and won't pretend we doJason says “China is a better idea than USF”"I’m Shaquille O’Neal, here to tell you about Moon 2"Hugh Freeze either has a bad team or is a bad coach, per Hugh FreezeMiami, get openly ignorant againRemember, the Little Brown Jug exists because of poisonWashington plays at Rutgers in a classic Big Ten matchupAlabama and Georgia meet in a game both teams will probably hate!More looking at the schedule and talking about the moon than any other college football podcast aroundThis week's theme song performed and arranged by Anjuli ShahOn sale now: tickets for our show at Furnace Fest in Birmingham! https://www.seetickets.us/event/shutdown-fullcast-live/603983Follow Jason's work and upcoming book-related appearances on Vacation Bible School, Shutdown Fullbooks, and elsewhere at https://www.jasonkirk.fyi/Find Holly and Spencer writing and chirping at channel-6.ghost.ioListen to Ryan's other, less harrowing podcast, We're Not All Like This, and check out his new project at assigned.substack.comPurchase only the finest Fullcast gear at sunny preownedairboats.com

Did you guys see the naked act of aggression committed by the Buffalo Bills on Instagram yesterday before the football game? No. I think I have figured out why they were able to so thoroughly thrash the Jaguars apart from being a better football team at all levels. They announced by Instagram, I think yesterday afternoon, a partnership with barefoot wine. it's like they came into their own backyard and just went wow taking jacksonville's pink moscato from them like wise i'm i'm amazed jacksonville came out of the locker room that's that's war how dare you hit us where we live that's northern aggression another really funny thing about seeing buffalo do that well is again seeing everyone return to like

Nobody thought Josh Allen would be good. And you have to go, the haters actually didn't, they didn't think that. It was true. They didn't think that. I'm myself among them. No reason to think. Yeah, it's, it's going to remain such a revisionist thing for so many years that, like, y'all don't understand how bad he was.

You just don't, you just don't, man. I mean, I know, I know that, like, the non-college ball watcher thinks, like, oh, I would simply identify the quarterback of eight and five Wyoming as the greatest football player on earth. No, you wouldn't have, you would not have. No. I mean, you understand. It's actually made him more enjoyable as a pro for me because every time I see him, I'm like, miracle. Yeah. Unreal. It's awesome. I'm so happy for him, you know. It's great. Another person, though, that we really should consider culpable in all of this is Kirk Ferrence. Because if you remember Wyoming's biggest game and Josh Allen's final year was against Iowa

and the general approach was let's see what you could do Josh Allen against a real team and he did what everyone else does against Iowa which is suck right just get pounded into the turf no one open no one to throw to total garbage and it had way less to do with Josh Allen

and way more to do with the fact that he was playing Iowa and the Iowa distortion field is real that game yeah there were other games as well There were other ones, yes. But still, if I have the ability to blame Hugh Freeze for something, I will. Welcome to the shutdown forecast. You are listening to the internet's only college football podcast.

I am Spencer Hall. I am joined as always by Jason Kirk, Holly Anderson, Michael Serber on the ones and twos. Ryan Nanny, doing business, running around, doing business, hustling, contracts, yeah, selling, selling, pointing to things and being like, like right now he is in the middle of a Don Draper presentation where everyone is crying about their childhoods. That's what he's doing. That's how hard he has sold everyone on the full cast. He will be along shortly.

It's the right stuff, but with cats. Yeah. Oh my God. What an idea, Ryan. Imagine just Sam Shepard in a little helmet that just says mittens across the front. That's him. That's him. It's Apollo 13 with lemurs.

Yes. That's help. that is what Ryan is doing he will be along in a moment um first I want to ask hey Jason how you doing I am maintaining I'm looking to convince UNLV to join my conference but they haven't decided whether they want to or not maybe also Yukon even though they're on almost another continent but we'll see if we can convince them I'm also trying to convince Gonzaga to start a football program

but other than that everything is just really really awesome have seven members that's not the right number but we need eight although that does add realism do we just go ahead and patch this into

the EA college football game where you have to build a conference but you also have to recruit and woo them I mean you can could, like, when you're doing Dynasty mode and you're, like, building a conference, you could install some sort of a dice roll mechanic where, like, I don't know if we, I don't know if we can convince them. I don't know if we have enough charisma to convince them to come aboard. And, like, Pac-12, you have failed dice roll after dice roll.

Yeah, exactly. I just, in this round of conference realignment, I have, which this round being just the Pac-12 trying to spackle itself back together, I have enjoyed this sense of, like, we're going to do a big dramatic splashy move and whoops oh oh fell off the turnbuckle and like it i guess i see what they were going for adding like you know just enough of the mountain west to try and like oh these are going to be the chips that are going to bring in the stray cats from all across america and then the cats were like that's really far the cats were like we're good saga fans the cats are like we live in fucking tampa what are you talking about cats are cats are princes in tampa and And, and then, like, they start working their way down the mountain west step to start. And it's just like, I guess this was a grand, grand plan to turn the PAC 12 into the AAC. But it's like, you already had an entire mountain west. You could have been the mountain west. That's the same as the AAC, just left.

That just, it's, it's, this, the PAC 12 is forever fascinating. Amusing that the four American conference schools were, reportedly convinced to stay due to stability. That's right. The rock steady eternal presence of the American conference, which has existed for, in college football terms, seven minutes. Seven minutes. The stability granted by being in the same place as UTSA, who, according to that

time span got here 19 seconds ago. Yeah. This is like on the. geological scale of time, this is like humanity to the rest of Earth history, right? Like, we are this tiny little band and the rest of it is over here. And they saw that and they thought, mm-hmm, bank it, bank it, done. And they're not wrong. That's how unstable shit is, generally speaking.

It's like the Pact 12 is operating as if they are not certain the rest of the country saw the news. Like the Pact 12th is like, hey, Memphis. want to join a power conference and Memphis is like, okay, when will you put us in touch with one? Like, I don't know. Pact 12 is fascinating, just forever fascinating. Maybe the Pact 12 hasn't heard the news yet. That could be part of it. That could be it. I, they are on, remember, they are on Pacific time. So three hours, they will hear what we are saying about them. I think we should start to look a little broader. I think we should look at, uh, maybe, me reading the Organizacion Nacional Estudientel de Football Americano,

if you are reading phonetically, that is the Mexican College Football League. Don't sleep on the choices you have. For instance, you could get the Universidad de las Americas Puebla in Puebla. It's private. It's private. So admission standards might be a thing. But you could have the Aztecas. You could also have the Monterey Institute of Technology and Higher Education in Monterey, Nuevo Leone.

You know, you'd be getting the Borregos, Salvages, Monterey. I think that would be a great ad. Or what if I said that you could have the Instituto Polytechnico Nacional in Santo Thomas, Mexico City? That's right. The White Eagles, the Aguilas Blancas. I'm pretty tempting What about not to Larry Scott

All over this too early But what about Japan Sure That's Pacific I believe that was his I believe that was his theory as well Yeah I think I think Larry Scott just did math

And he was like Let's get China Why Biggest Biggest Biggest Pacificist China is a better idea

than USF So They're going down hill from Larry Scott That ain't good. It ain't good when you look back on the Larry Scott years and see like, oh, I see what we were going for. The one I really want, by the way, for them to get would be the Instituto Politechnico Nacional

because their mascot is Boros Blancos. That's right. Like you. The white borough. Yes, like me. I'm seeing several of these Mexican college football teams that that's a San Diego state rivalry. It's built in.

Proximity. right there it's right there let's see canadian college football teams map we're going to go north as well bear with us folks yeah there yeah there's there's there's a few within range god yeah it is huge man if you were going to go the pacific route you go all the way across the pond and you get waseda university you know why because waseda the name of their team are the big bears not the bears you would be playing the big bears an innovation that has escaped american naming conventions for years tons of bears tons of teams named bears not one big bear we do a lot of like big red is a bear hmm well then he better change the name get that trademark working because we'll say to sit in on that shit happen your years big bear i think big red is both bear and not bear that's crazy is he in that weird Big Red is non-Bernery, huh? Thanks.

Is he in that bear cat territory, right? No, that's a completely different school. Are you talking, are you speaking of Rocky Top? That's true. Because when they say, you know, they never did say which half was bear. Hmm. The inside. Oh.

So just a cat that's very sleepy. Dr. Moreau was doing some strange stuff up on Rocky Top. What accent is that? What voice is that? What are you doing? Great question. Hi, Ryan. Hi, sorry.

Are you doing business? How was business? I was doing important business, and I will tease it with this. We have a full cast live show coming up in October. In October. Oh, right. Which will get to in podcast business. I assume we have a.

on podcast business. Maybe we have. You've missed a lot of stuff. Fuck. We have a collaborative live show that we are not ready to announce yet, but it will take place in early 2025 in the city of Atlanta, maybe at a venue that you've seen us at previously. Who's to say? That's all the details that I am willing to divulge at this place and time, but that's what the business was about. And the business is a boomen. The business is great. is it agile

oh my god it's multiple it's aggressive synergible scalable it's give me a scale we'll fucking crush it

okay one to 10 like we are the business that brought America it's second moon and you say isn't that Earth's moon no the second one

is just for America because we conquered the first one and then yes yes Unlocked new game New Moon Plus Sponsored by Taco Bill

Premium Moon Liv Moons The Moon's dodge moves on New Moon Plus are really impressive Like your timing has to be exquisite Well that's why they named it Agile That's actually where the name comes from

It would be hard to parry the moon Because it looks like it moves really slow But no it's moving really fast Oh my God, so fast Oh my God, did you guys hear what happened in Moon Scrum I did throw up in my mouth that. Don't worry.

My body is punishing me as much as you wish you could. Are we sending anybody to the second moon? I don't mean we the shutdown forecast. Oh, I was like, shit. Are we taking, are we? That is a conversation. I got drawing straws right now. I mean, I can make it happen.

I mean, of, of the people on this call, I would not be surprised. We're more qualified than a lot of people making those decisions about. If, 2025, the shutdown full cast to the collaborative live show on the second moon. If Spencer texted me, like, on Friday night was like, hey, you want to go to the second moon next week? I would not be shocked. No. No, no. I mean, yeah, that could be coming.

Yeah. Also, it would be, like, what corporation would sponsor the private mission to send us to the moon? I mean, none of the good ones, unfortunately. You know who I would actually, you know who I would actually like to sponsor our second mission to the moon? Amtrak. I would like Amtrak to sponsor shutdown, forecast. second moon trip. Are they going to send us

via train or? Correct. Space train. Rocket train. With Shaq as the conductor. Yes. Yes. You see the vision.

We're perfectly aligned. Shaq would do it. Oh, I'm Shaq. For the moon. Moon two. What did you break for our travel? How far to the moon, Shack? Papa John's in general insurance.

That's it. That's 11 hours. That's food and that's security. At a printer that never runs out of ink. He doesn't. do that I forget about that That man will endorse anything Anything and that's why he's a hero of America

That's right, that's why he's going to endorse Moon 2 Sponsored by Salesforce I bet there's shit Shack has turned down Truthfully How mad are they that they already use the word New Moon for when there's just not a moon at all? That is a fuck-up Yeah

Angry That is a fuck-up Or all along when we thought there was no moon where we're actually looking at the place where moon two will be. When you look, it was then that God carried the second moon. It was like a preview of the new moon? Well, like we were like, I have a really strong feeling that new moon is right there. And we were right, but we didn't know it yet.

Moon two. Not wrong, just early. That does sound like us. Moon two joining the Pack 12 in August. It's closer than Tampa. Wait, I've just heard that Moon two has decided to remain in the mountain west. Instead, they're adding Logan, Utah.

The Moonton West. Oh my God. Moon, I'm going to be a problem on this episode because Moon rhymes with so much stuff. The moon has shitloads of mountains. Why wouldn't it be in the Mountain West? It is west of us at one point. And then he's...

Yeah. And then west again. Yeah. Yeah, it's inconstant. Just like Earth. Just like... Just like conference alignments. Just like the tectonic plates.

Yeah. Don't think of it. of it is conference realignment tearing the sport apart think of it as the gentle motion of the conference tides i guess on a long enough timeline shit will wrap back around and tampa will touch the pacific coast at some point yeah like a moon lasso which is how we got the second moon correct i understanding yeah we've we've we've already discussed bringing in several japanese universities and mexican universities including the Boros Blancos,

which I think would be an incredible add to any conference. How on earth did we get to the point where people were like trying to entice UNLV? Like all respect to the UNLV football program's current alignment. Do you want to get Godfrey in here for the boring explanation or? No, I mean, no, we want no boring explanations. I mean, not the boring explanation, the business explanation. Oh, I mean, that might be more the purview of another,

podcast that I'm very excited I should have known better than to think you were actually asking this question sorry watching that's on me it's just the LV right like the LV is the reason I mean I guess it's the sphere yeah it's it's the sphere and it's you can play the conference championship game there and you can like if still a lot of the goal here is we have to sell TV rights

to somebody like Las Vegas is a pretty good size city, and you get to say that. Yeah, I mean, fast-growing metro area. Like, think of how many times over the years, people were like, why isn't you NLV better at college football, considering all the shit that there is in that city? And now they are.

And now they are. And now they are better at college football, too. And now they are. Because of reasons that have nothing to do with all the things people have thought. The answer was Barry Odom all along. Yeah, but like, I mean, the answer was a big bear. The Pax 12 was going to work its way down to this, um, no offense stuff at some point, you know, like, they have no other option.

This is also why, listener, you should really treasure and value the internet's only college football podcast because other college football podcasts like products might try to keep you abreast of what's going on with conference realignment right now. A thing that seems to change every four hours. We won't do that because by the time you listen to it, who fucking knows what will happen? So why would we give the bad information? Yeah. Yeah. Here's what I know. Washington State and Oregon State are in the pack 12th.

I'm not confident saying more than that. A lot of evergreens in both these days. I'm not confident in that because... If they can't get to eight, then no one is in the PAC 12. Okay, all right. I retract my statement. Let's see this. At this hour, we cannot report any school as a member of the PAC 12. We are not ready to make that election call.

What if we just say it so? Because I got to tell you, I've seen enough. Okay. Just Steve Kornacki at the monitor going, I've seen enough. Washington State belongs to the EPL now. Come on. You can't steal Internet Valor like that. These are different guys.

These are different guys who are really different people. My point is like these are different guys within the same realm of content. Sure. So like Holly added a guy and then Spencer added a guy. That's two guys. Yeah, that's fair. Come on. I'm talking John Cornacki in this house.

I'm sorry He knows what he did Wow Damn Hey speaking of people who know what they did Isn't it really funny that a couple weeks ago We saw a bunch of young girls Dragging Johnny McEntee for filth on TikTok

And some Enterprising reporter decided to ask them about that Huh Are you referring to former Yukon Huskies trick shot quarterback Johnny McEntee? You know, Florida has a popular about these that I actually find very helpful, which is that every time

you get a life update about a Yukon Trick Shot quarterback, it's bad. It's true. There are very few blanket policies in this world, but this one seems pretty solid. Yeah, I mean, I think about the long list of people who fit that description, which is Johnny McEntee,

and I couldn't agree more. Listen, maybe Johnny McEntee needs to, like, change the media cycle right now like obviously a bad story for this guy johnny stitch incoming mackinty so johnny if you're listening and again we know you are what if you became the first person to throw a touchdown pass on the second moon yeah think about it join the mootin west go i mean yukon might yeah so sorry it's moon it's moon con no you yeah there are these those they have have several of the same letters.

The husky is already white. Yep. And sad. Basketball shape like the moon, isn't it? Mm-hmm. I'm just about to Photoshop the sad husky, the paranoid husky, with the sad 1960s space helmet on. Yeah. Yeah.

Gino oria moon. That's if UCF doesn't beat them up there first. Because remember, moon program. The moon fight. Like, this is how we will settle the moon fight. Every university wants to be the moon school. The first school to get their flag on the second moon, you are our space university until the third moon shows up and we do this all over again.

Well, at that point, we're just keeping score. Like UCF, Houston, Purdue, all others who are offended because I didn't name you as space claimants. Each of you gets, you know, the first one to claim the moon, that's their moon. Yeah. And then we just keep going. We just keep a running tally. Obviously, it's Houston.

They name their stadium space. the arc of history has been from let's send our finest into space to why don't we take every asshole we don't like and figure out a way to connive them into shooting them into space listen listen we agreed we have agreed as a planet not to militarize space

we have not agreed not to be real dickweeds I wasn't consulted you weren't and that's why don't know if we agreed that I think you're speaking very optimistically about me as a planet never mind again nobody's in the pack 12

space is at war. That's what you should take away from this podcast right now. The grim, dark future of right now. War in space. Oceans are battlefields. This had to be what it was like though with ocean travel and with settlement and colonialism, right? Like

to an extent, there had to be a portion of the endeavor that was God, this guy's just a fucking dick. Can we put him on a boat until we never see him again? Yeah. I think that was a lot of it. I think that was the Puritans. I think that was the Puritans were like, we left England and you're like,

like, England wanted to keep the Puritans. Listen, I bet Columbus was fucking insufferable. The Spanish were like, Jesus, this Italian motherfucker will not get out of court. Like, please give him the boats. Please just give him the boats. He'll probably die out there and we'll all be better off for it. He came, and he came back and they were like, oh, God damn it. Queen Isabelle is like, I like his ankles. Shit, he's back and now he's rich. We got to do something about that voice. Send him there again. And like, yeah, at that point, it's like, well, when he's rich, we're rich.

Yeah, this is, I'm convinced that, like, that was, that was the deal with both him and the Puritans. They were just like, God, just go somewhere else. Here, take a fucking boat. Please. Maybe it'll sink. Can you draw a hole in the bottom of that? Thanks. Do you know there was a hole in the bottom of this?

Oh, no. No. We brought food, right? Ah, foodish. Foodish, sure. So what if, like, all of cyber. all along has been designed to just like gaslight Elon Musk until leaving. I'm convinced that was the point of like every blog post that was like,

we'll never colonize Mars. We'll never. No man named Elon Musk will ever stand on Mars without a helmet. Fully nude. Fully a fool who is bad at business would dare to attempt that. Or no one has the business skills to do that. Elon Musk isn't smart enough to piss on the sun You heard me

I bet he'll never try to get a tan From staring directly at a nuclear reactor I'll bet him $5 So yeah We need to go ahead and get Johnny McEntee on the moon For science For science That's why

This does sound safer than driving a cyber truck Oh man Okay There was this there's been this, at least in Atlanta, there's been this kind of a municipal game going on over the past few months where people kind of announce when they have seen their first cyber truck in the wild, because it's fucking weird whenever it happens. And I wonder if we've had enough saturation now to where enough people have seen one where we can

issue a new challenge, because I saw something extraordinary yesterday. Have y'all ever seen one of these things park? No, I haven't seen it. I don't know why I never thought about it before, given the dimensions. Um, but it was in a movie theater parking lot and I watched this dude. Yeah, I just assume, I assume what I think is fairly that this was a dude. Um, but I watched this this person execute what looked like a ten and a half point turn before he just gave up and went to the end of the parking lot where there was nothing but empty spaces and just pulled diagonally across like four of them he did that because he's a nonconformist an individual well no don't you see what he did he just went and he went and colonized this other part of the

parking lot it's that kind of it's that kind of attitude that's going to put them on the moon I bet that man won't drive on the moon I bet him $5 I bet he can't I bet he can't Maybe maybe the reason Tesla's won't work on the moon

is there's like nothing to run into So what's the point They need terrain challenge Yeah they need like school zones To speed through and shit So we have to send kids to the moon first Well school zones Okay

And then Cyber trucks to parade through them If we declare the moon a school zone Will cyber trucks then work on the moon? I think they will materialize In the medieval years When they thought meat turned into maggots The school zone will turn into cyber trucks

Uh huh Yes we The power of imagination is what fuels humanity Ryan So yeah It will work Speaking of things that won't work on the moon Or anywhere else Someone without a real job

Hugh Freeze Q-free's following the Arkansas Auburn game where if you did not watch it and I did despite I was listening to cover three and Bud Ellie was like it was a garbage game

there's no reason to pay attention to it I'm like you missed so much that's the reason to pay attention to it because it's a garbage game Arkansas absolutely like submitted Auburn at the end of this game

after trying to pass and just saying fuck it, 10 straight runs each shit were done it was probably my favorite thing I saw last weekend actually was just Arkansas being like had it, bye just hitting them in the face

for 10 straight runs and the score that won the game and sealed it for them Hugh Freeze when asked about this game said maybe the lamest shit I've ever heard. after a loss you can test me on this

I'm sure somebody said something that's probably equally bad but this is the lamest shit I have ever heard after a game

he said that if they had he said yeah they won but I'm gonna lay out the truth for you which is amazing I mean no offense

whatsoever at all to Arkansas or to Cal I love Sam Pittman I hope he wins the rest of his games but I'm telling you The hard truth is we play them nine more times. We beat them nine times.

So here is the tricky thing about the Hugh Freeze's of the world. And there are other coaches like this. You can use your imagination to fill in who they are. They say and do things that feel worse and sound worse because of who they are. Like Hugh Freeze is not, at least within our group, it's not a widely likable person. and I don't think anything he says can really help him be that likable. So this is the comment that I agree. It's sort of like it feels sour grapesy in a stupid way,

especially because we're not talking about like, wow, um, Arkansas won on the craziest punt return you've ever seen or like got some real questionable calls down the stretch or, you know, they kicked a field goal that was clearly out, but somehow the rest. I've said it was in like or like which that's another problem with it it betrays an

historical understanding of Auburn sure it's not like Auburn dominated this game right right right like should Auburn if you play this nine more times would Auburn wins some of them sure could you talk me into it maybe even being a majority perhaps um but because it's Hugh Freeze like it all tastes bad do you know what I mean like it doesn't matter what the food is that he has to offer it all tastes bad yeah like if they right now scheduled 10 more of these games um god if they don't sure if they were at i mean hew free is assigned the exercise so i took it literally if they were to right now schedule another game at a neutral site

arkansas would be favored by somewhere around three points that does not suggest auburn is going um nine and nine and one or nine and oh in those games like that suggests Arkansas is probably winning six or seven of those games. Well, it's also weird because in his comments about this game as a whole, Hugh Freeze has painted two highly conflicting pictures. One is, we win this game nine out of ten times, blah, blah, blah. The other one is we suck and our players are crappy. And I have a real hard time like squaring those two things.

Like, you either, if you think your team sucks, A, you shouldn't say that. Or if you do, you should, like, make it all about you and your staff and how you have failed. Because that's what you get paid to do. You get paid to take the blame, especially when still at almost every college, like, your players don't get to go in front of a microphone. And they don't get to talk about what they think happen in this game. You are the mouthpiece. And so it's kind of on you to eat most of the shit. You're going to get most of the credit for the wins.

so you have to eat the shit when you lose. And guess what else you get? Millions of dollars in salary and benefits. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So. Not to go right back to Madman, but that is what the money is for, babe. It bizarrely is inconsistent in a way that I think reinforces, I don't know Hugh Freeze knows what's wrong or how to fix it.

Like you either think your team is bad and you have to figure out what to do about that or you think your team is good but like not quite there yet and those are two different problems to fix and if you're going to make both cases it doesn't reinforce a lot of confidence and like Hugh Freeze knows what to do about Auburn football right now yeah it's like what is Auburn's initial problem according to Hugh Freeze it's well this it's this roster that somebody assigned to me it's this it's this roster that someone assembled I don't know who is responsible for that and also at the same time this team I have would defeat the Arkansas Razorbacks 90% of the time. Also, don't be a free target. As a coach, Jim Tressel. Okay, Jim Tressel perfected the art of

saying jack nothing all the time. All right. There are coaches who have managed to be funny and completely not answer questions simply by being, humorous. Not only do not be a target, don't give me something I can recruit off of as a fellow coach, because that's exactly what Hugh Freeze did here, because, you know, after the

game, Hugh Freeze said we need somebody who's not going to throw it to the other team. Okay, listen, long history of coaches making pointed comments about the performance of their players in a very direct way. Maybe you could get away with that if you'd had a history of. doing that and also being really fair to your players. Hugh Freeze doesn't really have that. So, Elaine Kiffin, when asked about having trust in your quarterback, said the following, which was, on the field, there's a trust level there, talking about Jackson Dart.

We spent a lot of time with them and then let them play on Saturdays. I think you build that, especially for a guy we didn't recruit out of high school, didn't have a previous relationship. Let's say Peyton Thorne, the transfer quarterback that Freese has. I think it pays off when you have. have a relationship, and your quarterbacks trust you, too. That's, that's, that's just, that's just him talking around that, right? Like, that's 100%.

Never ever stop recruiting even when you're indirectly talking shit about your neighbor in the next zip code who you recruit against all the time. So yeah, don't do that. Are you saying it's bad when Lane Kiffin is the emotionally mature and, uh, when Lane Given is showing you how to be a normal business guy we might be there I mean this is

it's just bad business because like you're going to have to go recruit you're going to have to go back to the transfer portal other coaches are going to be like this is how he will talk about you if you struggle this is how you'll get thrown under the bus they don't have to this is the other thing too

this is a I'm sure the coaches just love this now that the players have more open opportunity for self-expression, but the coaches don't have to negatively recruit against him. This stuff is getting spread all over. Like, you don't, if you don't believe this coach who's trying to get you to come to the school, hey, you know, five-star recruit from Dadeville, why don't you go over here and hear what his former players are saying about him? you're doing it for him that's it you're doing your opponent's work for you you're alienating your players and you make the rest of us and sit there and go yeah what a jackass i hope let me try and say what i actually mean here instead of what would be funny i hope that people younger than us are able to learn earlier than we did what their number is

to where they would be willing to work for a boss that makes them completely fucking miserable. Not naming names. I don't know why I wouldn't name names. I was like, what are we doing? On this show, we would never. On this show, we would never.

But yeah, you got to know, you got to know that number. Also, you got to know that it's coming, which now... All right, I hope that it's. they get, I hope that they at least grasp the, you know, even if they don't get the number because they're, you know, very young. I hope they, I hope they start to internalize the concept, right? I have good news, though. On this show, we have no bosses. Maybe server's our boss. Server is our boss. Okay. Server's saying no. He's like, absolutely not. Please, no thing. He's like, what would you, why would you say that? Server denies responsibility. I don't want to,

I don't want to make any decisions. Please don't make me. I can't even decide where to eat. tonight what are the choices yeah we can do that don't just no no you have to provide the choices give me a list of 10 things i will get that list down to three server just get chicken just get chicken yeah it's fine just get chicken just get chicken doesn't matter get chicken again uh the only boss on this show of course the dread almighty hand of capitalism spencer cue up podcast business podcast business What's the business Podcast business

It's a business It's our boss The invisible It's the ghost of Adam Smith Here to tell you About various business ventures What's Adam Smith's wingspan We don't talk about that

I'm gonna say Oh shit Can we ever know I don't know On account if he's got invisible hands Oh shit Oh, damn. Adam Smith of the Boston Red Sox minor league farm system.

The Red Sox would fucking get the Adam Smith. God. Let's see. Adam Smith, the soccer player, 511. I'm just going to look at all Adam Smiths and then we don't average them. Thank you. Thank you. Here's a six foot one.

Let's start with home field apparel. Yeah, let's. Back riding again with the shutdown forecast. continuing to offer, listen, is it still hot as hell for all of you? Is it still like nowhere? Okay. Like, I promise hoodie season is coming. I promise jogger season is coming.

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Damn. Wow. Already shit talking. Gosh. The rivalry begins. I don't see any comfortable collegiate vintage apparel on the second moon. No offense. Second moon.

I think you're shit together. Neither moon is a home field, in fact, other than for the tardigrades. Holy shit. And no offense to the tardigrades, but they do not cover much of the moon, I think. It's possible they've spread to cover the entire thing. I'm just saying the only home field is right here on Earth, as far as we know. Sure. And like, oh, Tardagrades can survive in all conditions.

Oh, blah. They're here for time immemorial. That's fucking great. You know what Tartagrades can't do? They can't navigate to homefield apparel.com. and order a goddamn thing because they don't have money and even if they did

they don't have sizing they don't have sized tartagrade like there's a good size range to be clear none of this shit is made for tartarades is made for people. Are tautomorphs? I can't ever remember which one is which.

I can't remember either. Liberal elite Ryan Nanny tarnishes the reputation of the Hardy Tartagrade calls him broke no less. Now the water bear is the blue collar hero of this podcast.

I know this is not what you said but you just put it my head the vision of a hearty's tardigrade. The heart of grade? The heart of grade with sausage. I'm immortal when I create processed meats. It does sound delicious. But yes, that's home field apparel.

You know. You already know. And if you don't know, where the hell have you been? Get your shit together. On Moon 2. Cut in a break. They just got here. Welcome back from Moon 2.

We never give you homework. This isn't Split Zone Duo. I'm going to walk it back. Tardigrades, I apologize, I don't know your finances, I shouldn't be pocket watching. If you want home field apparel, you're able, and you have the means, you can buy it. That it's not made for you is not important. Sounds like Ryan's the one who has the means. You're right, you're right.

All I'm doing is Word Association for 90 minutes today. I don't know why and I can't stop. As usual, I'm taking out, I'm taking out my own anxieties and insecurities on water bears. You all see me do it time and time again, and we're fucking tired of me. Water Bear Lobby talked to us about this for a long time. I know, I know. Here's the thing though. Here's the thing. They're really fucking tough. They can't. I know. I know. But you know what? Just because

they can, does that mean they have to? That's right. Like, they don't give a shit. Isn't the horror of the vacuum of space enough? Do I have to pile on and add to it? What can you do? What can you do? That these animals who were built to, like, float through hell itself? What are you? But an insignificant little human to the tardic grade. Here, I'll do your worst.

I'm going to translate from this Tardagrade. The game is the game. There you go. That's what they said. Wow. Many men wish for me to feel death even when it's a million degrees below zero. Pretty good. Yeah, like guys after the worst thing in the world literally happens to them.

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how excited how excited are you excited wait no jason hang on jason's not on board okay more Holly, I've selected you to be the contestant this week. Terrific. We are talking about winning and losing streaks. We are at the part of the year where we have teams that are... Why do you want me to think about that? I'm not going to talk about Tennessee. I'm not going to talk about Tennessee.

I promise. We're off this week. It's fine. We have some teams that are undefeated. We have some teams that are winless. And what I'm going to do is I'm going to set the year 20. 2014 as our dividing line. And I'm going to ask you when the last time the following teams either started this far into the season undefeated or started this far into the season without a win, we're looking forward. So to give you an example to get it started out, Navy is 3 and 0 right now.

Holly, do you think? Do you think Navy started a season 4 and O more recently than 2014 or less recently than 2014? I'm sorry, I'm sorry will I parse the phrase less recently, uh, less. It's actually more recently. In 2017, in 2017, Navy started the season 5 and 0. All right, let's go to Miami. Oh, that at all. Holy shit. Who away, wait, wait, was that? I think that would be. I can remember this just by the quarterback. Yeah, I think that was a Keenan Reynolds year. Okay.

Let's go to the Mac. Miami of Ohio, off to a disappointing start, 0 and 3 this year. When was the last time Miami of Ohio started the year 0 and 4? Was it more recently than 2014 or less recently than 2014? They've got a recent division title, so I'm going to say less recently again. Okay. It's more recently. Miami of Ohio.

Ryan, you're just playing this game and made me look stupid. I'm not. By myself. I can look stupid by myself. In 2016, Miami of Ohio started the year 0 and 6. Not ideal.

What you got about 2017, Ryan? Indiana. Oh, Jesus. Indiana is currently undefated. The quest for 9-1 Indiana continues a pace. They're 4-0 right now. Holly Darling

When's the last time Indiana started 5 and 0? Is it more recently or less recently than 2014? More recently? Sorry, it's far less recent.

No. You have to go back to... The last 9 Indiana team was not an opening start. You have to go back to 1967. I am mad at this. To find an Indiana team

that successfully started the year 5 and 0. They started 8-0. year. I think that's their Rose Bowl appearance here, if memory serves. I think the trick with Indiana is that the opening stint almost always includes one of the games where they're about to beat a Big Ten East team. I'd rather be playing prize picks. At least there I might win something. Hey, don't get that. Without having to be smart. Let's do Wazoo. Oh, good. This is mean. Wazoo currently 4 and O. Undefeated.

Holly, has Wazoo started a year 5 and O more recently or less recently than 2014? More recently. Correct. I knew that one. In 2017, Wazoo started the year 6 and 0, and we're rooting for them to do it again. Harumph. Okay, you have two. I'm going to let you pick between these last two and we'll just do one of them.

Do you want to do Duke or Wyoming? Hell yes, Duke football. Okay. Duke quietly undefeated under Manny D.S. 4 and O. Sure. Holly, is it more recent or less recent compared to 2014 that Duke has started a season 5-0? Ooh. Oh, wait.

Oh, the year they went to the ACC championship game, did they start undefeated? Mm. More. it's less recently some bitch it is you have to go back to 1994 you are hateful

to find a Duke 5-0 start it helps that for a lot of years after that Duke didn't even win five games so I didn't have to do that much checking for a lot of this I love that for you that has been our weekly game more or less Holly you win because you're the only one who played

and so you win more more more more more um what else do we have to accomplish in podcast business there's more stuff right i think you've got a little something to announce don't all right i do uh by the time this comes out you will probably be able to hear the prologue episode of a new project i'm doing with stephen godfrey called who killed college football it is a murder mystery podcast of sorts where we look at everything that has changed about college football in the last three five 20 40 whatever number you want to set it at yours and try to figure out how it all happened. Holly, you have a question.

Ryan, I'm watching college football right now. What do you mean who killed college football? Oh, yeah. We should get this part out of the way. College football is alive and, well, as a business. But we, I think we have all noticed that for somewhat for us, certainly for a lot of our listeners, what college football is feels very different. And it may not be the college football that you first started to like or that you liked just a few years ago. and who knows what it's going to look like in the future. So yes, the title of the podcast should be, who changed college football? But then, we couldn't

do the whole, like, noir murder mystery thing. I guess there's no such thing as like an aggravated assault mystery. That would be possible, but a little less, yeah. It's not as wieldy. Yeah. Who corporately overhauled college football? Are you already

sick of having to explain this title? No, because it's what people are doing on the internet. And people on the internet I always want things overly explained to them. And Spencer has the best approach to this, which is, I will never offer any explanation or justification. Go away and leave the plot. That's right. That's right.

You can find it wherever you listen to this podcast. We have a substack, which you can find at wkcfb.substack.com, where we'll have some, like, subscriber inclusives and things like that. I don't think I've ever worked with God. Godfrey on anything before, other than just, like, being mean on the internet. So that's also... So now you understand. I mean, that part I already did. Yeah.

That part I already understood. It's rough in there. So, yeah. But no, we're very excited. The first episode, our suspect is television networks. And I will tell you, several people that we reached out to for comment or interview, we're like, no, thank you. I would like to decline.

which is fun. But yes, that's what I've got to promote this week. I thought that Dave Batista did a great job as the voice of Dave Television Network. Dave, yes, of ABC, of 1980s ABC. I am very excited for both that and for the scene where Stephen Godfrey falls for a long, tall, mysterious woman with crazy motives. You're going to get him hurt. His wife's not going to like that one bit. She's not listening to this podcast.

That's true. She's so much better than that. God, she's so, like, there are people out here there who don't listen to this podcast and don't know who Johnny McEntee is, and their lives are so good. They are just fucking thriving. I am so envious of them. You can always, of course, find out who killed college football by following Ryan and Stephen's new podcast.

In the meantime, the shamble. corpse of college football itself, who animates it better than Spencer Hall and Holly Anderson on the Channel 6 newsletter? That's true. Let's not answer that question. You are the Dan Aykroyd from my girl of college football, Spencer. Jesus fucking Christ. Is that good?

Is that bad? Who's to say? I don't know. It's fine. You know, if you subscribe to channel dash 6.ghost.io, a URL, you can click in either Holly or my Twitter bio. We can discuss this and so much more. The top whatever, posts throughout the week, and our preview show, 11 a.m. We don't play off the preview show enough, frankly.

No. And it's like, it's apart from doing this, honestly, it's my favorite part of the week during the season. Like, if you are sick, if you're not interested in college game day anymore, all 17 hours of it. If you are not into Urban Meyer trying out like his cool sunglasses on Big Noon Saturday's preview,

like go hang out with Holly and Spencer and usually an array of fun guests on their preview show. It's way better. It's way more fun. Sometimes it is my dad. Sometimes it is my dog. Sometimes it is one of Spencer's children with a lot of things to say about trains.

My youngest made an appearance and just did a Swedish chef impression. And then hit me. It was incredible. Hit you in a way that I thought was harder than you expected, right? Oh, it was definitely harder than I expected. It was a gritty reboot of Swedish chef. Like, nobody's going to get slapped in the neck on game day.

I'll tell you what. I'll tell you that right now. Nick Saban might slap pad actually at some point soon. Jason, that's, he can't reach higher than that. That's mean. They're sitting on chairs. It's fine. All his slaps are neck slaps.

Yeah. But, barring that, I think Ryan is correct, that if you want to see some violence that Channel 6 is the website for you. You know what's great is you can tell who pulled seniority on that desk, because by which I mean, Des is way over there on the left. And they put the new kid, like, Nick Saban is being hazed on live television. And that's not nearly as fun to watch as it should be. They won't break him. No, no, they won't. No, absolutely.

They are locked in here. Little O'Rashack there in the middle. But yes, come join us. Subscribe to channel 6, and you can join us, and we'll answer your questions about football, whatever. On football, whatever. We also have the aforementioned Birmingham live show, which is, by the time you listen to this, like, a week away?

I keep forgetting what day it is. My wife had to remind me, like, you know, you're going to Alabama next week? And I was like, yes, thank you very much. I forgot. It's because it's like, it's close enough to the, do you know why? I think I figured out why this has been confusing me, too.

It's because it's such an early day to knock. October and the end of the week falls at the end of the month. Yes. And so I'm like, is next week like the second or like the sixth? Well, also like once we get in a college football season, I feel like the only date that starts to stick out to me is conference championship weekend because that represents like a dividing line. And all dates before that are all exactly the same, more or less. Let me give you a mnemonic device to remember the date of our Birmingham show. It's a special

It's a version of a special day In the state of Alabama And another state as well It is the third day in October Oh So folks We're doing music disasters at this show The deadline for those stories

Is going to be Friday September 27th So get those in by then Shut down forecast at Gmail Competition for that is high by the way Yeah Don't let that scare you But do let that drive you to bring your very best

I would put this up there, I've just read a few of them, but I would put this up there with the indie submissions as maybe our best batches we've gotten. A few tickets are still available for that show and price will go up on the day of the show. So if you want to make that investment, go ahead and get it done. Additionally, the library thing is well over halfway to its goal. Request any format of my book in any library and tell me about it and will be one step closer to me giving another $1,000. dollars to charity. Maybe the charity of your choice. We'll decide that part later on.

All of this is explained in the college football watch grid. I post each week at my substack, Jason Kirk. F.YI. I'm requesting manga. Manga version of the book. It's not out yet, but maybe they can go ahead and place a very early advance hold. Pre-order, yeah. Caleb's on.

All right. server i have a business oh i'm sorry go sorry i'm sorry yeah last business unusual business yeah this is this is not us this is just something i want to throw in here because we know that you guys love raising money for good causes and there is a good cause money raising situation afoot uh a local atlanta journalist austin lewis ray uh long time listener friend of the program is currently running a campaign with an organization called Undue Medical Debt that does exactly what it says. It buys up medical debt for pennies on the dollar and forgives it. And the way this works, you can go look at Undue Medical Debt's website and get this

I'll explain to you, but your donation of as little as a dollar, because these things are bought and bundled in bundles from collection agencies, you donate a dollar and it can end up forgiving as much as $100 on a stranger's medical bill. And as someone who is currently drowning in medical bills myself, this organization is awesome. You should do this for people. It's one of the most cost-efficient ways to spend your donation dollars. I've got this posted in my timeline on Twitter and on Blue Sky. If you want more details, I'm not going to read out all the super long URLs here. But we are trying to hit $15,000 and help out our buddy Austin. Help out some Metro Atlanta neighbors. So get in the

there and do some good things. Thank you. Appreciate you. We'll put it up on the full cast social accounts too. I didn't want to promise that because I didn't think I'd remember it, but maybe. Let's say we will and maybe it'll just happen. Now someone will tweet us to ask where it is and then. And that will be complete.

Serber, anything you want to promote before we close podcast business? Any fun killer ant stuff? Hey, we rented a house in the mountains and we're going to make a record. in like a month of a house. Hey, do you have a band? Do you want to play in Winston-Salem? Do you not live in Winston-Salem? You should DM me on Twitter or Blue Sky at L underscore Cerberino

and let's trade shows next summer when we have this album to promote. Once again, you can do that on my DMs at L-Ur-Sor-Severino. I think they're open. If they're not, then just follow me and then be like, hey, I can't DM you. and then I'll follow you back and I'll DM you but I don't know how that works because Twitter

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You don't like Ann Coulter fanfic Set to music that concludes podcast business which means spencer it's time to look at the schedule oh i love looking at the schedule time it's looking at the schedule time it's looking at the schedule time we're gonna we're just go ahead here and look at week five the season is passing at the appropriate amount of speed i will need this is going slowly i think that's true yes it is this feels exactly we're coming up on the point of the season in which people are like my god it's going by so fast but let us chronicle that it is it is going by at a normal rate we can withstand it

the earth is the earth is orbiting the sun at its normal rate do not be fooled by moon too yes i have checked the map and despite all argument to the contrary it is september 24th yeah the second moon what gives nothing period that's not what i said that is what you said and all of a sudden, I'm effeminate. It's kind of nice. Liking it. Finally, I'm open to feelings. Yeah.

Boy. All right. Start us off. Bleeding like a farm animal on the bus. It's magical. Dude, that's sick. That's so fucking sick. How much you're bleeding?

Bro. So, but periods are so metal. Look at this. Dude, I'm in immense pain right now. I'm building up so much strength. This moon's bad ice, mine. I had to take to my bed for a week

like a Victorian heroine. I love this shit. Man, walking across the room makes me feel like I've been punched 7,000 times in the crotch. It's awesome. Thursday, September 26, 2024. Army at Temple. That's enough. Okay, Friday. Friday, it is.

Friday is fascinating because it features two different and distinct psychopathies meeting, okay? One. Both of them. One. First of them.

I see at least three psychopathy. On Friday? On Friday. On Friday. I'm not sure about the fourth. Does Washington have a psychopathy? We got an exciting Big East championship between Virginia Tech and Miami.

Can't wait to see who gets that BCS bid. Miami fans already faking humility by saying, oh it's Miami and it's on a it's on a weak night don't it's weak shit I want to see some valor I want to see you oh we're back baby no you're not back until you treat this like the idiots you are stormin and be like you can't hold our dicks it looks why would you want someone to hold your dick they just

because their handshake too much to pee it looks it looks bad on Miami fans like other schools can do the like I don't know I think we're not going to hold it together, but, like, Miami needs to, like, have the overconfidence of Han Solo on substances, basically. The gold standard for me is always that one Vandy Florida game we went to where there were, like, four Vandy grad students in front of us, and it spent the whole game talking about how, well, this wasn't their real rooting interest anyway, because they were there for grad school, and they're down, like, 28-0, and those guys are up there clapping, like, four more on sidekicks, and we're back in this thing, boys. Sustain. Sustain. Brief,

through it. Get ignorant or be louder ignorant. Be louder ignorant. It's probably the more accurate statement. Remember when Virginia Tech was like, I don't know. That could be an interesting like dark horse for the playoff. And now they're two and two. And then the season started.

Yeah, that's unfortunate. Hate when that happens. I don't know, though. Like, I don't think they're going to win. But this would be the exact perfect time for a speed bump obstructionist team like Virginia Tech to just make this uglier than they had to. Okay. I mean, I

Given that their defense has shown, let's be generous and say inconsistent efforts against Vanderbilt and Ruckers, and Cam Ward is fucking setting everybody on fire, I have a hard time believing that there's going to be like four quarters of speed bump. You can talk me in two closer at half time than I do too, but I'm going to sell it. I'm trying to sell this anyway, Ryan. We talked it after dark about what Cam Ward was. doing to the opposing defense? I don't think so. I don't remember. Because I didn't see this until I went back and watched something.

Yeah, he was doing what, Holly? He, to say that he knew what the defense was cooking up is both a true statement and an understatement. And if you ask, how do you know that Cam Ward knew what was coming? it was because he started as soon as the defense would make a call he would point to where they were headed and go right here or over here and he did that over and over again and it was extremely funny

I cannot imagine anything more enraged we got to add him to the he's not on the people's eyesman watch list we got to put him there also based on this mobile quarterback is the Bondo for your dinged car no matter how car you might be how dinged your car might be because they are leading the nation and third down conversions right now. And a lot of that is Cam Ward

being like, I'll take it. Ding-a-ding-a-ding. Cartoon twinkle noise as he tiptoes across the first timeline. Is that it a little bit like sandstorm, but okay. And then Washington at Rutgers in a Big Ten clash. For the ages. It's fucked up. That was the other

psychopathy I wanted to mention here our other neurosis, which is YouTube is playing at Rutgers baby. Yikes. In a conference game. Yeah.

Mm-hmm. Oh yeah. This is when it starts hitting. When USC goes to Purdue, oh yeah. This is when you're going to realize how messed up this actually is. How much do you really like money? I am a little worried for Washington here because

they're three and one, but like, They haven't really gotten the offense out of, like, I don't know, let's say third gear at this point. Ruckers is favored by a small amount. And, like, Rutgers just loves to play, like, muddy-ass football, just bog it down, drown you in time of possession. Like, I, this is just so clearly not last year's Washington that I have some work. about how the Huskies are going to do. And I do think, listen, Rutgers is not as bad as they have been in previous years.

So I want this to be taken with the great, like that is an understanding. It's still a bad feeling in 2024 to be like, we joined this new conference and we went on the road and lost to Rutgers. In the same way that when Michigan under Brady Hoke, I think the first year they played Rutgers in New Jersey went and lost. Like, it just feels bad. But it is part of what you have signed up for with this experience.

If you could have stayed in the Pact 12 And instead, you might lose Your Ruckers on Friday night Hey brother, you might be able to go right back to the Pact 12 if you want to Doors open Just, I think the funnier move is Be if they went to the Mountain West at this point We want a stable conference

We're headed to the American The gold standard of conference stability We're waiting to see what UNOV does Where do you want to start on Saturday, kids? How about in sunny Oxford? Huh, perchance, per chance, who might be venturing between those gates? Who's that coming down the track? It's a drunk and angry wild cat.

Yeah. Part of me would say, desperate Kentucky team with something to prove. This also, to me, says, a desperate Kentucky team who really wants to prove something, but can't. There's plenty. It's my favorite part of that cliche. This is a team with something to prove. and you go, too bad. They lack.

I don't think y'all can. This is a team that lacks evidence. I'm going to project a little. I'm going to try to future cast a little bit here. I'm going to say this is one of those games where you look up and you're like, oh, man, it's 10-10 in the second quarter. And Kentucky's got the ball. And then they throw the worst pick six you've ever seen in your life. The worst pick six you've ever fucking seen.

And then it's over. Like, that's when the damn breaks. But it's a beautiful pass. It's jug week So time for jug With a lovely 35 point total in that game Yep Oh my God

Yep Juck listen Jug not hold points Jug hold water and poison It'll be interesting to see if anyone passes Never forget That the jug only exists because of poison fears Wait

Isn't that why the jug's a thing I don't think I made this up All right, hold on I'm going to go Google it So I don't fucking up Little Brown Jug All right The origins of the Little Brown Jug

This is from the Bentley Historical Library At the University of Michigan We are going all the way back to 1903 with Fielding Yost Wolverines arrived in Minneapolis To play Um

Minnesota and apparently had a moment of paranoia where he told the student manager to purchase a jug of water for his team at a local shop because he feared shenanigans or tampering by their rivals. So this student manager, Tommy Roberts,

went and bought a five-gallon jug for 30 cents. Michigan won, I believe, 6-0. The jug was abandoned. but the Gopher's Equipment Manager found it and they decided that they would that they would oh no I'm sorry the game ended 6-6 in a tie never mind I apologize

And so might this one And so Minnesota Minnesota decided like let's keep it and they didn't They didn't like make it a traveling trophy until they played in 1909 Because the 1903 This is what this says

The 1903 game was so physical and brutal that the two teams would not agree to play each other again for another six years. I like the idea of them, like, just sitting in their opposite corners bruised and howling, going, like, I don't want to. Yes, but the jug exists because Fielding Yost was like, they might, there might be a snake in my boat. Somebody's poison the water hole. Filling Yose was like, I'm pretty sure there's papists over there. They're going to poison us with the capricorder.

You know what it is? He's like, well, I'd poison theirs. So they're poor. Yeah. This is the three fingers back, one pointing four. forward thing, right? Yeah. Yeah.

So, I do hear Midwestern God being like, ah, geez, he's paranoid, but we were going to fucking poison. Oh, boy. No, but all this poison for nothing. Yeah, they're going to be pooping their brains out there. That's why it's the brown jug. All jug.

All is jug. All is jug. All is jug. I would, um, additionally, by the way, um, I would like to skip a little bit down into the 3.30 block. Okay. If you would like to see two desperate teams with something to prove who might not be able

to prove it. Brother, I will be lining up front and center for the Shaddenfroyo festival. That will be Oklahoma at Auburn. Am I just going to watch this game to watch Hugh Freeze lose? I would love that. I would love nothing more. Is it worse if Oklahoma, is it worse for Oklahoma if they lose at this point? Yeah, that would be worse.

Okay. I think that would be worse. I think there are high stakes for both. I mean, OU would then be what O and two in the SEC. They're favored here. Then it would start a whole thing, a whole thing about like, will they ever win a game in this conference?

Yeah, yeah. And meanwhile, he frees would be two and three with, as noted, his hardest game still to go. So, yeah, somebody's got to lose here, and boy, they're going to lose. Backing up to the noon slot on the CW. we mustn't we mustn't forget the cw action northern illinois heroes of notre dame villains of notre dame i suppose gets to play a two and two nc state that continues to look like deeply beleaguered

is that a fair way to describe it they look bad um you you say sympathetically beleaguered i say but they look bad uh NC state has back to back cw games they play it and i this week and they play Wake Forest This is when they get right This is what y'all Unfucked around Y'all fucked around

letting him get on the CW Watch out now Stands for CLEW pack That's what stands for Yeah Sans for Come on

Dave Doran got that CW assignment And his eyes Just lit up like a phosphorescent kind of blue Yeah Also at noon On Fox Sports 1

Forno BYU I think might try to mash Baylor into a fine pace Baylor is favorite in this game I don't believe in Baylor at all based on what happened in the Colorado quite honestly

yeah and I think BYU is big and mean it's like every big 12 game feels like it can be described the same way right it's like Oklahoma State Kansas State it's like yeah yeah sure all these teams are fine

all these teams are somewhere between okay and fine yeah they've also created something very interesting though with that kind of parody where if I were looking at it, we'd go, oh, that's bad for that team

to lose this game. Like, all of these you go, that's going to be a real referendum on their competence. Then the next week, you're like,

they're fine. They're fine. Louisville, Notre Dame, is this only on Peacock? I believe it is. That's not, okay,

so it's not real. That's the opposite of the CW. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, CW is for the people. That's right. And Peacock for the elite.

For the people, not the frogs. That's right. Like peacocks. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. let me guide you let me guide you a little bit here

to a game with additional comic potential that would be Colorado at UCF hello skate park university I need you to do this shit I need you I need you to do some brutal shit here okay and I have confidence that you can do that don't look ahead to Florida okay

you got that one in the bag no one would do that no yeah it's not worth looking at let alone Now we're looking at or forward. You're correct. First ever matchup between Central Florida and Colorado, if you can believe it, two storied teams, two national champions, two great, two gold tastes that go great together. Two equally valid national champions.

And when I say that, you think I'm making a UCF joke. No, I'm talking shit about Colorado's title as well. In fact, I consider UCFs more valid if you're being quite honest. Jason with the Darth Mall. Fuck. It's very mean. Stanford Clemson conference game, which is in some

ways just as fucked up as Washington Rutgers. I forgot to ask Spencer which ones are these are conference games. I do like this version of Clemson that is so mad about the Georgia game. They're like, fuck it. We put 60 points on everyone just to show the world that we don't

poop our pants anymore. It's so great. We only did We only did that one time. Now our pants are so clean. Our pants are so clean and they're better than your pants, 60 points betters. Now all we do is we poop Stanford's pants. Look at that. Everybody's going to laugh at what?

Nobody's looking. Nobody's going to laugh at Stanford? Only us? Oh, I see how it is. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You know what I hear when somebody says that they haven't pooped their pants in a while? Double down on the imminent pooping.

That's going to happen. Uh-oh. Stanford to knock off Clemson. Stanford to knock off Clemson. Stanford to knock off Clemson. You heard it here first. a legit interesting big 10 game okay i know there's there's a bigger game on the schedule in a different conference at the same time but for your second screen i might keep an eye on

the burly the bumbling the stumbling illinois line eye that's right the number nine university ranked for public universities as one of our listeners alerted us no way we're supposed to Be nice to Illinois is the message we have received. I'm being nice to Illinois because I think they're going to go into Penn State and absolutely choke the shit out of them. I think that's, I think Illinois goes in and we get big game James in the last four minutes sealing the deal. Oh, yeah.

If I have a decision on management in the last four minutes between James Franklin on one side and Brett Bilem on the other, brother, I'm taking my 24 pack of Bud Heavy and we are walking right over to Brett and I'll be like, you got this because lokey, dude is a good game manager. Do you guys think that people have types when it comes to enemies the same way they have types when it comes to attractions? Oh, sure. I would say probably even more so. By which I mean, is there anybody that James Franklin is going to hate losing to more than Burt?

Who. Why's that question? They just, they seem to be, they seem to be. I don't think that these two would get along well if you put them on a cross-country road trip. Can I say that? Maybe. I think what...

Who would get along with James Franklin? As it is goofus and goofus and goofuser? Like, who is James Franklin's ideal road trip, buddy? Brian Kelly. Oh, come on. We can't do that to the wolf man. I'm not even going to put that on him. Then we...

James Franklin, isn't he the wolfman? he decided? He's the wolf playing. And smuckles, yeah. It's a thing. Oh, no, those are enemies. Mario Cristobal. I would say Mario Cristobal is his.

Oh, they could talk about rules the whole time. Oh, they can talk about. Coach, what do you do when there's five seconds left? Well, coach, let me tell. Oh, God. I got to recruit. I got to recruit, too. So also at 7.30, the big game that Spencer's alluding to would be Middle Tennessee, Memphis, Memphis

favorite by 24. Now, at 8 o'clock, another conference game, Florida State going to SMU. That's one in three, Florida, Florida. state uh currently a road dog possibly one and four florida state new mexico new mexico state those will be in the pack 12 uh by the time you hear this folks and we got a we got a loaded late night on this schedule like we're we're we're all going to be up a while let's just put it that Washington state Washington state Boise state playoff implications yes Arizona Utah major big 12 implications and also and therefore playoff yes and therefore playoff

Oregon, UCLA, I can't bring myself to tell you that this one will be important. I can't do that part. Technically, Big Ten implications. Technically, Big Ten. It will imply a lot about the Big Ten. Yes. Tell me sweet lies, Ryan. I can't.

I just, I can't. I think we have totally, I don't know if we've talked about Iowa State all year. They're 3 at O and number 18 in the country. They're playing a Houston team that is really rebuilding this. year. Like Houston has been rough. They get Houston, Baylor, West Virginia. So like, are we possibly looking at top 10 Iowa State in a month? Is that a possible? Like, that feels like a maybe thing that is on our horizon. I just feel like we should, I just feel like we should like put that out there. Yeah, they'll be in like within range of that. Yeah. If they managed to win all

these? Some help would need to happen, obviously. But like, we are, you know, we, we are seeing as conference matchups start to come in and we see more, you know, ranked on ranked and things like that. Like, I don't know. It's just, it's just interesting to me. That's all. So what if it comes down that, um, the playoff committee is like, well, that, that one point win over 11 and one Iowa is put elevated Iowa state into number one, baby, the number two scene. I like that even that is only the number two C. Additionally, because what I have just described is Iowa knocking off Ohio State, right?

So even that is not enough to get Iowa. That's true. Matt Campbell's agent, if they got into the playoff, Matt Campbell's agent would just hold him at gunpoint. Like, now. Do it now. Now where I'm actually leaving. For real.

Finally. Yeah. All right. What do you want to say about George and Alabama? That's during the Memphis game. It is during the Memphis game, so I'm not going to watch it. Yeah. I gotta ride with my boy

I gotta listen the fields of silver are calling I gotta I gotta go support my tigers and their main man Ryan Silverfield You know what I'm excited about for this game I'm excited to wildly overreact to whoever loses it That's what we're gonna do whoever loses this game Boy are they gonna get just trashed like oh my god If it's Georgia is gonna be like you know

New Year under Kaelin Borg get fucking trashed blah blah blah blah if it's Georgia, it's going to be Nick Saban never should have this team who's in the ditch, blah, blah, blah, blah. There will be no reasonable reactions this game. If Bama wins then it's all, Kirby's got a new dad

now. He's got to go there and be defensive coordinator under Kalin for a decade so he can understand his secrets and unlock them before he returns to Georgia. Just tell my Bobo to mine the house. He's done it before. he's got the keys that's what georgia fans want that's what they that's what they're clamored

don't feed will must champ after midnight the house rules are simple good good and i like that in the midst of me this feels like it might be the most mutually anxious georgia bama game that we've had a while i'm glad that donald trump has decided to stop by and really keep everything level and calm what a cool dude how long do you think he will stay at this game. Oh, he's out. If he's not out at half time, he's out at the start of the third.

Okay. Also, Jesus Christ, you want to talk about a nightmare, Tuscaloosa Game Day traffic and the Secret Service? Have you guys ever been to a game where the president's there? Thugs.

No. Sucks. No. I was, man, I was at a Baylor game where I guess like W was, was, uh, I don't know what the hell they were doing, doing the opening square dance or throwing out the first pass or some shit, but for some reason, W was there. And I just remember being with about half the press corps who had been on our way up from the field to the press box

being trapped in an un-air-conditioned tunnel under the stadium for like 45 minutes while they got him in and out. And that was at Baylor where you can hop right on the interstate. famously right outside the stadium. Hunker down, everybody, I guess. We'll live here now, Cindy. But also, you know, y'all voted for this guy, so have fun. Whoops. Whoops.

I, yeah, I don't, and I will say this, too, I have no reads on this other than a series of vague intuitions. Like, I don't think next week's going to be really fun for Mike Bobo. He is the offensive coordinator at Georgia, and he is a long, a long time fixation for Georgia fans who want to find someone to blame for the team's problems. And he has not helped that by sometimes being the problem, an odd play caller, somebody who occasionally forgets they have running backs. And the one thing you definitely don't want to do for an SEC fan is forget to run the ball,

even if it makes sense. And that's something he does sometimes. Do you know the last time Georgia. beat, I think this is right, Georgia beat Alabama in Tuscaloosa. Yes, was it, this was the Henderson game, the Mikey Henderson game, the rocket call. Was that 2007? It is 2007. It was Nick Sabin's first defeat as coach of the Alabama Crimson Tide.

The signs, they are there. They're in the heavens. So that's, I guess, the advantage to Alabama. If you lose this game, it just means the second coming of Nick Sabin is here. it was written um i wanted to do one thing i i want you to pick one game on the schedule where you go i think there's chaos waiting there like because i think this is a weak rich for it and i will demonstrate okay do you want it to be a game we haven't talked about or a game we have talked about because there are still a lot on the board maybe we could have mentioned it once but i want you to

just expand on it a little bit because i want to talk about this one um they blew up appalachian state last week. They are South Alabama. They are going to LSU. It is a night game for those of you who believe in Tiger Stadium Nocturnal Magic, which I do a little bit. But South Alabama

Major Applewhite has got this crew in shape. They are beating the shit out of people and LSU is not a very together or disciplined football team with allegedly some serious locker room issues.

vis-a-vis their coach and the players it could be a mess at least a messy half they're clearly the more talented team but that's never stopped LSU from struggling with somebody deep into the third quarter before there's chaos potential there so if you're looking for a messy stupid random

directionless no discernment nothing nothing to hold on to I'm going to point you toward the UNC game who are they playing well that part doesn't really matter because it's who I would select every week they're playing Duke Duke's pretty good so definitely the unc game

okay Holly do you have one yes Oregon UCLA okay yeah okay yeah

that would be very alarming at this point in the season for Oregon well here's the thing look at who I love Oregon but

I don't think there's anybody who hasn't been burned by an Oregon team they thought had it before sure also look at what they've done so far they have a they have a weird their schedule has played out to the point where there's there's kind of a little bit of ohio state happening here um they we remember in the beginning of the year they fucked around against idaho they very nearly slash should

have lost to boise both of those games were at home they went to Oregon State and laid waste there, which they should have done. And that's all we've seen them do so far. And I'm not saying that they're going to go and find a rough and ready, raucous home crowd at the Rose Bowl or anything else. I'm just saying that we've seen them pushed by teams that they should be able to handle so far and they should be able to handle UCLA. So let's see what happens there. Okay. Okay. Um, like they're, they're fucking around. I have not, I'm not even sure I count a 4914 Oregon State win as not fucking around. Like that's baseline. They've gotten up to baseline once this season. When are you

going to start playing to the level of real competition? I'm probably not this week. I'm going to take Western Kentucky Boston College. Ooh. A conference game. Someone else has to apologize

to Bill O'Brien. No, I think this could be a very entertaining game. Western Kentucky just beat Toledo. A team that like we still think is good and usually is good. Playoff Toledo. Playoff Toledo. Boston College. their only loss is a six-point road loss to a Missouri team that maybe has some stuff

to figure out, but it's not a bad team by any means. Most importantly, this game is on the ACC network, and like noon game buried on the ACC network, that is a good place to look up and be like, uh-oh, the kickers are fighting. What happened over here? I got to go catch up. I see what's going on. One point safety, one point safety. One point safety.