Shutdown Fullcast - Our Favorite (Non-Football) Offseason Things
Episode Date: August 2, 2019This is the episode where we try to convince you we are reasonably well-rounded people who travel and read for pleasure and watch television that isn't just whatever weird Minnesota replay the Big Ten... Network has picked out for a summer Tuesday afternoon. Maybe you'll get some ideas for new things you can enjoy in the remaining days before football season starts. Maybe you'll think our taste sucks and tweet us better things we should have consumed. Either one is fine, just remember: send those tweets to @38Godfrey. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to the shutdown fullcast.
We are the internet's only college football podcast, in case you don't know.
So that means that naturally we have an off-season.
College football isn't like a year-round thing.
You can try to make it that.
It's not.
Like, you can show up at the stadium.
There won't be anyone there.
What am I trying to say, Jason?
uh that the offseason exists but like the season itself it is temporal the off season is coming to a close
that's right for most people like bitcoin like jail for il chapo it's a it's a it's just a way station
on the way to to somewhere else we are breaking loose out of the off season folks and we are scampering
into the other jail that is the season hmm breaking loose from that so hmm
Between the off-season and the season, which one's jail and which one's prison?
Jail is shorter, so prison is the off-season.
Jail is shorter depending on what kind of county charges he catch.
Yeah.
Here it is, the off-season is solitary.
Jail is Jain Pop.
Or the season is Jen-pop.
Yeah, that seems right.
I defer to Jason's experience on this.
Yeah.
I, by the way, I did see El Chapo's lady.
The Daily Mail had an article that was,
Like, like El Chapo's wife takes fabulous trip to Venice
while her husband rots in Supermax dominate.
And why not?
That's what he would have wanted.
I mean, yeah.
You're going to go to El Chapo, like, write him in Supermax for comment?
He'd probably be like, yeah, Queen, go.
You know what he's doing in Supermax?
He's saying, yeah, I sent her to Venice.
She could write it off as a research.
Like, Venice is a city of canals.
You could probably canal your way out of Supermax.
That's his research, yeah
You're trying to say he's going to be the first person
To escape Supermax and do it in a gondola
That's right
That's right
Man's going to swim out of Leavenworth
Press stroking in a speedo
Toriosa
With somebody
With a big straw hat
Punting him
Going,
Oh so let me
How'd you come out
How'd you come out at the Venetian
Biggest baby
If El Chapo surfaced at the Venetian in a gondola
And got out
Everyone would just take pictures
At that point
At that point clemency
Full pardon
Full pardon for how did you do that
Now you see me three
Straight to video
Yo dude did you see
It was sick El Chapo was in Venetian in a gondola
He bought
Now he's a show on vice
now the uh yeah the tv show where pen and teller try to guess how the magician did the trick
el chapo's now the third on that show and they're like he's like no no here's what they really
they're like legally i don't think we want to know that's it like if you're old chapo's wife and
you show up at the luxury boutique and you're like hey i'm i'm you know i'm mrs el chapo but
i want people to think of me for what i've really done on my own sure like sure whatever that's
fine. Do you have money? That's what we specialize in here. So she's a chapa, right? La Chapa. La Chapa, yeah. La Chapa, sorry. Yeah, La Chapa. And, you know, it is now, you know, living, living the good life, just like El Chappo want her to do. See, it all worked out.
So that's the off season for you. We, we like to do a little thing when the off season shambles.
to a close where we sort of look back on how did we engage with the parts of American culture
that were not, you know, college football, which is the part of American culture we will
devote considerably more attention to going forward. And when I say American culture,
I mean, the parts we chose to interact with because, buddy, there's a lot you could,
you are, there's a lot that it's best to just sort of, yeah, man, it's there.
That's fine. You're not from the deep south, so.
That's true. I don't really know what I'm talking about.
You're not going to, how's this?
I'm from a separate planet orbiting somewhere in Georgia.
Hello, I am from Atalanta.
We're a bubbled city floating high above the wretched plains of Georgia.
Your species is carbon-based.
Ours is traffic-based.
That's actually true.
It is true, actually.
It's like traffic and Zaxby's.
we're uh yeah we're
we're uh carbon
we're carbon emissions based
there we go
the oh my god
carbon offset
wow
credits
gas
emissions
he's from right outside
he's from right outside
Atlanta proper so I think he is part
of the real Georgia
That just makes him more, that's why he's called Offset.
According to the tweet, man, yeah.
Yeah. The rest of Georgia is like the bandmates who really want a songwriting credit.
Yeah, sure. Go ahead. Why don't you write a song, drummer?
Don't do that to Phil Collins. How dare you?
Hey, Phil was always the heart of Genesis.
How come Genesis never pops up in Yacht Rock Radio?
Because you can't imagine any of them on a boat.
Also, there's no, there's not, are there,
yachts in England?
The queen had one, but I think
it's retired now. No, they have to go to
Miami to purchase them. Right. No, no English
person can actually own a yacht.
Or to Venice.
Yeah. Or to Venice.
Full circle.
When Nigel's hanging with La Chapa.
Oh my God. If Phil Collins
is hanging out with La Chapa,
man, that's the TV show
I want.
It's like fixer, it's
like fixer-upper except Phil Collins and
La Chapa show up to your house and tell you you're poor.
That's it.
That's the whole show.
And solve crimes.
And do crimes?
They solve the crimes that they did.
If you're in Supermax and you are told that your wife is dating again, that's bad.
Understandable, but bad.
Can I make it better for you?
It depends on the conversation you had beforehand, right?
Like, let's not rule out that you may be.
Yeah, El Chapo seems chill.
He won't remember things
Okay, sorry
Go ahead.
El Chilpo.
No, I'm, that was rejected.
No, keep going, keep going.
Power through it, you can do this.
But if, if I can make it better by saying,
Hey, your wife stayed in Phil Collins.
Ah, okay.
Phil Chapo.
Yeah, your wife stayed in.
No.
Your wife stayed in Michael Bolton.
All right.
The real Invisible Touch is the one that gets you out of jail.
I don't know what that means.
He escaped from prison famously.
No, I just don't know what the Invisible Touch part means.
He escaped in a motorcycle tunnel.
There was nothing invisible about it.
Invisible from the surface of jail.
Oh.
Duh.
I do have, by the way,
my off-season regimen in terms of consumption.
Because one of the things we like to do is just tell everybody, hey, here's what we did
when we weren't watching football.
You can't do it 24-7.
Can we go category by category and just all round-robin it a little?
Sure, sure.
I thought that's kind of what we would pretend to be smart by starting with books
and then get to what we actually spent most of our time-consuming.
Let's have a production meeting on the air.
Yeah.
Just like in the season.
this is called verite i don't know why i'm bitching like i'm making this better books we can start
with books all right and here's what i was your age television was called books well the television
i watched in book form holly that's a good reference thank you don't say yeah i'm just on pins and
fucking needles here to find out what books spencer read i hope this is all a big buildup to be like
i didn't read any fuck you i read i would say this i read nothing too
Mark, right?
It wasn't like I spent, it wasn't like I spent the offseason getting intellectually better.
No, I just wanted to be entertained.
And that, that is why the best book I read this offseason was Snake, the autobiography of Kenny Staple.
Snake.
Yeah, yeah, man.
The best part is that it stops in 1982 and Stabler died like five years ago.
So you do the math.
There's a lot of Snake's life that isn't covered.
And they kind of have to come to this thing like, well, I didn't ever thought I'd get married,
but I met my second wife.
And that's going to last forever.
Spoiler, it did not.
Everything from here on out, statute of limitations has not yet expired.
So we won't be including it in the book.
I'm just going to review the highlights, some of which I've discussed before.
But I really strongly encourage you, the cover of the 1981 edition, I believe, is a football
helmet filled with ice and beer. That's the cover image for Snake, the authorized autobiography
of Kenny Stabler. The chief incidents that I would like you to recall, growing up in a small
town in South Alabama, Kenny Stabler watched his dad and his uncle have an argument. They said,
one of them said to the other, why don't I whip your ass at the dump? And, and,
And they both walked over.
That's what we call Legion Field, just for the record.
They both walked over, like the South Alabama Vikings that they are.
All right.
And they both walked over to the city dump.
Everyone showed up.
Like everyone in town's like, hey, y'all.
You know, it's 1 o'clock in Foley, Alabama.
Let's go to the dump and watch these two dudes whip each other.
Dump fights.
Time for dump fights.
Yeah, Kenny Stabler watched his dad whip his uncle's ass at the dump in
Foley, Alabama. It's one of the most beautiful sentences ever spoken or written in the English
language. Jump fights. Yeah. John Matusak with the Raiders was Kenny's roommate. Matusak was
inviting like women over and his introduction to them was to just open the door naked. And
if they came in, it was a date. And if they didn't, it wasn't. Kenny Stabler said this always worked.
Always. Just I guess if you're going to go out with John Matusac, that's how
was going to go.
Then Stabler, in addition to this, by the way, says that he really did learn most
of the Oakland Raiders playbook at a bar.
We all study in different ways.
And Kenny Stabler, he found his special place.
Sure.
Some of us are kinesthetic learners, some auditory, some alcoholic.
Yep.
That's really all you need to know other than, hey, how did Kenny Stabler make it at Alabama
with Bear Bryant, who was famously strict?
well you can't drink you know if you drink while bear bryant's asleep he can't stop you it's just
true he can't stop you and that's that's apparently what kenny stabler did this whole time in between
crashing cars and uh spending a lot of time on a boat that's it Kenny stabler my life kind of tipsy
on a boat it's it's required reading so that's also yeah sorry I was going to say please tell me
that's your single book that you read yeah that's it no uh I also read a book about the SAS
the British Special Forces called Rogue Heroes.
It's really great because, like, most stories about the British and all of their most successful things,
it's like, let's get a bunch of really unqualified people and intentionally choose the most unqualified,
and then put them in a position to fail and have them do the most insane things.
And it all kind of works out.
Except for the lot of people dying part, but like the guy who founded the British Special Forces,
he jumped out of a plane with a parachute that was a good start when you read the rest of the book
and you figure how it goes you go oh i'm glad he had a shoot like that was that was an achievement
for this guy yeah he jumped out of a plane with a shoot um not knowing anything about skydiving
he just figured that's how he would learn so he uh he jumped out and he hit the tail on the way
out and broke his back and was in traction for six months and that's when he thought of the idea
for the British Special Forces.
That's how the book starts and it kind of just goes up from there.
So that's by Ben McIntyre.
That was a blast.
Just a complete, dumb, fun read.
So we don't have time for this right now, but we are going to do this.
Let's just mention this and then move on because we don't have time.
We are going to write a Metal Gear game starring Ken Stable.
Okay.
Snake.
Yeah.
The real list.
liquid snake. Go talk to big bear.
All right.
Who's next? Wait, wait, wait. It's metal bear. Solid, isn't it?
Okay, good. Got it. Got it. All right. Holly, why don't you give us your bucks next, please?
I tuned out a long time ago.
Smart.
Honestly, all I want to do is use this time to yell about how I finally read the secret history.
I'm so goddamn angry at everyone who ever told me this is their face.
favorite book. More like Donna Fart. It's so bad. It's so bad. Here's something that fans of
modern science fiction-ish things will enjoy, I decided to put off reading the final
fifth season book by reading the library at Mount Char because I wasn't emotionally prepared
for the end of N.K. Jemison's fifth season trilogy. If you know how both those books,
books go, you know that that was a terrific emotional choice on my part. But anyway, if you ever
want to read a science fiction book that was written by like an IBM engineer who lives in the
Atlanta excerpts and is a million pages long and is super fucked up, uh, yeah, go read the library at
Mount Char. It's not self-published at all, but it reads like it could have been left as a tract,
uh, stapled together in a seat on Marta. Somehow I'm, I mean that as a compliment. Can I take a guess
that this is like mist but
the sprawling book
no am I way off like ultra violent
oh ultra violent mist hell yeah
yeah yeah here for it here for yeah oh yeah
there's there's a lot of pink mist yeah um
gosh a lot of pink mist anyway to to stave off
the crushing familial sadness
and parent child violence of both book
of this one book that I was putting off reading
I picked up another book
that was even worse in that department
that I just didn't know about
but they're both terrific
Jason
Well if we're being honest
It's again comic books
And it's again Thor
Jason Aaron's Thor run
God of Thunder
The Jane Foster's Thor
stuff that people briefly got very mad
and confused about when it came out
That's a movie
That's nowhere near the craziest thing
It's not because it's Jain Foster
too, but it's because it's Natalie Portman.
But, yeah, the whole, I mean, the whole thing is fucking fantastic, and it just keeps going
on and on and on forever.
But also, as far as book books go, books with pages, where you learn facts and all that.
How about books have pages?
Not if you get them on the computer.
I get them on my phone.
It's a very good point.
So they don't count as learning, I guess.
So when we were in Ann Arbor, we hit upon the notion that people have favorite
wars. And I realized I do. World War I is my favorite war just because it's at least as important
as World War II. And yet the questions are so much more confusing and more complex and there are
no good answers to any of them. And I really, really like it when people try very hard,
especially when they come from bizarre routes. And I found a book that does it. It's called
the rights of spring where they try at the author it's like a professor from like denmark or something
uh tries to dig into like the psych psychological mindsets of everyone involved and like you know
the cultural shifts that led to people standing around and shooting each other in the face from
100 feet away for five straight years uh the stupidest event in human history trying to trying to tie this
to like you know music and ballet and philosophy and it's the most absurd book and like
it's it's kind of like reading something by a college freshman who is smart enough to be a
college professor like it's it's taking the most hairbrained idea and writing it in such a way
where you're like every few pages we're like okay shit i think i see how this is lining up and then
like a fuck a lost a hairbrained idea that's taken way too far that doesn't sound like the
shutdown forecast at all
but like i mean for all the parts where the whole thing falls apart and there's these huge grand
leaps uh toward the end you really start to see this fucking horror movie playing out where like okay
you had quite possibly the worst place in the history of the world the western front in world
war one uh to spend a day there is to have your brain ruined uh you know and and most people
are only there for a few months a few days at a time a few months over the course of the whole war
there was one guy who spent the entire fucking war in the middle of it and not just sitting around he was a runner on the western front during world war one and he thought it was fucking awesome that was hitler this is the kind and like the book builds and builds and builds toward that and you're like holy fucking shit you know everything it does to get to that point is you know it's just this grand overly ambitious leaps that are fascinating
and I think that's the reason to recommend the book
but as far as like making concrete smart conclusions
you got a grain of salted I guess
you got you gotta pair it with like some Barbara Tuckman
or something like that I feel bad saying this
are you telling me Hitler was the Barry Sanders of World War I
he did a lot of fucking running
more like I think in terms of
actual statistical production
probably more like an Emmett Smith
I don't think he was I don't think he had
the moves but he did cover a lot of ground both of them took themselves out of the game i can't top
that but i can keep pace with jason's war datitude here because i am michigan affects us all man i am
currently reading two different hitler biographies simultaneously so that i can compare them
that's war so one thing we talked about while we were in michigan not at the live show but just on
our own was that uh we there's sort of a judgment level that goes with different war dads depending on what
your favorite war is standard answer standard war dad world war two is their favorite war right and if that's like
that's the basic bitch answer right and that's the godfather of right and i think we've all accepted
that like there's nothing weird about that there's nothing that interesting about it but if you're a war dad
who's into world war two great fine world war one is maybe more like the indie rock
war dad if that makes the indie rock one we discovered was the fucking great northern war okay
That's the like, what I'm talking about is like popular indie rock.
You're talking about indie indie rock.
Well, so, okay, what if we say that World War II is like classic oldies?
World War II is classic rock radio.
World War I is classic rock on Spotify.
You're a dad who has discovered the internet.
Jason's right.
World War one is progress.
It's Rush.
Which is a band of dudes, a thing that I discovered very recently.
Yeah, not a lady.
Like if you, if you want a song that's like 25 fucking minutes and you're like,
holy god damn shit is anything going to happen that's world so so it's okay to be war dad who's into world
war one civil war dad is the one that is like that's that's that's that sends up a lot of red flags
it is problematic no matter where you are i will just say that's up a lot of flags there's a lot
of different there's particularly a blue and red one you want to really avoid many flags uh are
are there vietnam war war dad's is that too soon oh yeah is that a thing oh no yeah definitely
yeah but they were there right so that's the
the thing. If you're that war dad, it really depends
on what your personal connection to it. If you
have a personal connection, I feel like
it's okay. If you don't, it's a little
weird?
Like, I'm really into this war that
killed all my friends. Right.
Like, yeah. I don't know why I took that tone.
You should probably go to therapy if you're that
war, dad. Yeah, civil war dad.
That could go a couple
different ways. Yeah, yeah.
It's not, it's
not necessarily a
guarantee that you have some other
use it is an indicator it is a warning sign that you should be further tested for racism let's put
i think us as southerners talking about civil war dads it's like if someone from like
italy said they were super in the world war too you know what exactly about it like
also your country sucked at it anyway so you're a bad example italy heard both sides okay
i like people i like people who are into the civil war because they go and then in 1863 it got
really cool. The ones who are like, you know what I really like about it. I like the part
where an army completely raises slavery. That part, that's my favorite part of the war.
I think it's pretty, I feel bad that we talked about war dads without having Jane on,
but we'll rectify that at a later date. My books, to close this out, I have two fiction
and half a nonfiction recommendation. The first is called Fates and Furies. It's by Lauren.
in Groff. I'm not going to tell you too much about this book because it is a, the book is
roughly divided in half. It is the two accounts of a marriage. The first half is from the husband's
point of view. The second half is from the wife's point of view. The first half, you're going to
have to like work a little bit to get through. It's not that it's not interesting or well written,
but it's that the bulk of the payoff is in the second half. And I really cannot give you more than that
without spoiling it but wait isn't this a jason robert brown musical
maybe is this the premise of the last five years
i don't know i know it's i think it's different okay i think it's i think it's different
the other book the other fiction book i want to recommend is the power by naomi alderman
um the the premise of this book i can't share with you suddenly in i think it's like
the 90s early 2000s um women
all over the world, mostly like
women in their teens and 20s,
develop
the power to
shoot electrostatic energy
from their hands.
Shit, yeah.
And it is all about the power
inversion that happens
worldwide when it become,
when women effectively become
the dominant gender
from a physical perspective
because of this power they develop
and what happens as a result. It's like a really
fascinating look at basically like what would happen in what would happen in a world where men
with guns weren't as weren't the threat that they could be now it's really fucked up and really
cool um the nonfiction recommendation holly gave to me and the reason it's only a half is because
i'm only halfway through it uh it's death it's a savory read yeah it's death's acre by uh william
bass who is the i guess the founder of of the body farm
at the University of Tennessee, and it's just a, like, real, uh, real direct look at, like,
how he does his work, seeing, uh, developing the, and extending the research on body decomposition
and dismemberment and, uh, victim identification. And it's just like, yep, it's, it's pretty,
there's, there's, there's not a lot of ways to make it flowery, but it's a pretty interesting
look at like, oh yeah, here's all the shit we can do to.
figure out who died and how so those are my very useful in close proximity to tennessee football i
wasn't going to say i do think that tennessee football should like they should embrace the body
like they should start referring to nieland as the body farm let the bodies hit the farm that works
too uh just making hits over here for free spencer what do you want to do next uh you want to do
let's do movies slash TV
great let's do that
do we want to just keep the same order
of people sure sure I'm ready to rock
and I only have one recommendation
you're gonna take mine aren't you
I binged it oh god damn it
I binged it hard but I'm willing to
do you want to we can tag team this because I assume that we're
talking about the same show billions
oh no no oh I made
man I made you watch two really different shows this year
yeah yeah no I binge billions and I am
late to the party and for that
I apologize. What's it about?
It's about terrible people with money
and power. That's it. I
am not typically
into like the theatrical
cruelty theater, right?
That like Game of Thrones when they were like
who's going to get the throat? I don't
care. I don't. Like I don't care
about the playoff. I really don't.
Like if that's your thing like who's number
one? I'm just not into those kind of
plots. However, I do find
people screwing each other over
and ever more creative variations, fascinating.
And that part I get.
And that's the entire show.
That's like the premise of billions is,
what if we took a bunch of people
who were in and around hedge funds
and were insanely wealthy?
And then we just gave them all day
to destroy each other and themselves.
That's it.
It's just like season after season of that at full volume.
With some of the like,
the part that I love is that it made me realize
that if you're super wealthy,
in New York, all your stuff still sucks.
All of it.
You could be like the most powerful people on earth.
And it's like, cool.
I get to go into the city and dive into a pool that's three feet by three feet.
Woo!
I made it, Ma.
Like, one of the main protagonists gets like a really nice apartment when he splits up from his wife.
And it's like supposed to be like the icon, the apex of wealth itself.
And you're like, wow, you've got a glass box that's on top of all the other glass box.
Rock on, dude.
You did it, Bobby! Bobby boy!
My aquarium is awesome.
Your aquarium is incredible.
You should see my collection of something obscure and expensive that I and only eight other really wealthy people care about.
Yeah, there's some...
I really shouldn't care about any of this because most of the characters are just from places and things that I don't find interesting at all.
And it's beyond compelling and funny as hell.
And obviously written by someone who has severe...
adult ADD, which I feel, I get you Brian Coppulman. I really get that. So billions. It was
ridiculously entertaining and dollar bill forever. I like billions because it's, I think I've
said this before, it's like watching a foreign language film that all takes place in American
English. Yeah, very much. Like, I don't understand any of these people. But I don't understand
any of the references, no. No. And the references are sometimes like, they go beyond shoehorned into
to like obviously shoehorned and then to into inspired there is a segment show last year might be
paul jamati uh paul jamati has some of the most like forced and awkward dialogue in anyone else's
hands the 15 minute back and forth volley metaphor about baker street yes like there's a there's an
entire like monologue or entire dialogue between two people that is uh all in the lyrics of
baker's street by jerry rafferty and they just keep going with it long after it
loses any kind of like coherence. I, I adore it. It's also a great place for character actors
to just turn up. Yeah. You're like, that guys. There's a lot of that guys. Holly,
in billions. Holly, Spencer did not steal, since he didn't steal your pick. No, he didn't.
We've been, we've been binging two shows. One is billions and the other is another English show
we have to watch with the captions on, which is Love Island. And I feel like I should have
apologize to you guys specifically in advance because I want to specify that we've been watching
the UK Love Island and I just I cannot express how sorry I am for only realizing 30 or so
episodes into Love Island that I'm just making Spencer's British accent more powerful and
more adaptable to any situation. You should know. Please don't do it. Please don't do it. This is not
the American Love Island. There is a United States edition. Oh, we're not watching that shit.
No. You need to watch it. You need to watch it for the brubs. You need to watch it for the birds. You need to watch it for, you need to watch it because Love Island in the UK, like here I believe Love Island is a biweekly show or a weekly show. Yeah, in the UK, it comes on four nights a week. Six nights a week. Six, six. Six. This is, do you want to just keep talking about my show? No, okay, no one can hear you gesturing. I'm gesturing.
Go on. Oh, no. Here comes.
No, no.
Don't mean to mug you off.
No.
Oh, Christ.
Oh, Christ.
Try to watch like five minutes of Love Island with the sound off, but then just start
thrilling to people calling themselves the Channing Tatum of West Wales.
And I'm not a reality TV person.
I was exposed to Love Island while hosting a friend's birthday party earlier this summer.
And now I'm halfway into season two.
And these shows have like 50 fucking episodes a season.
And it's not good for me, but neither are pork rinds.
And we see how far those have gotten me in life.
Neither is college football.
Yeah, no, it's not good for me, but neither is college football.
And listen, you haven't lived until you've seen one of the most beautiful men you've ever seen in your life,
open his mouth and throw a tantrum on live television about his girlfriend,
cutting up his cheese toast into pieces for him.
Me toasty.
It's a man's food, isn't it?
Yeah.
They get like an entire episode and a half at least.
least out of a cheese toasty being cut up without permission.
First of all, they call them cheese toasties.
Yeah, he's like, I'll cook me food.
Yeah, you made you made toast, dude.
Some of it's really English.
The second season, they had to find, you know, like the first season, they're like,
these hot boys.
The first season was weirdly lovable.
Yeah.
Like, it was just like watching a big old pack of golden retrievers.
Yeah, but like they're like the most attractive men in Britain.
And like three of them, three of them have never walked into a gym ever.
And they're expected to be shirtless for the entire.
show one of the guys from essex who has never been to the gym and is my personal hero in the show
just kept a shirt on half the time like one of them wore a hat for like six weeks that's
yeah the second season they all like they put a gym that's the best part they put a gym on the set
like they're like they're like yeah no tv for y'all you get to you have to work out and they're like
that's how they found the eight most attractive men in britain oh i don't i don't feel great
about this. But also, I didn't see any movies this year that I liked. Well, we discussed this before
the show that we all have seen movies. They're just mostly Marvel movies, and we've exhausted
that topic. Yeah, and I don't want to talk about midsummer because it reveals too much of my
plans for my co-hosts. That midsummer, definitely right in my wheelhouse of movie. I will read
the Wikipedia summary for. Midsummer, a documentary that was filmed in real time. Jason, what's your
TV or movie recommendations.
Well, Ryan, if you can't handle scary stuff,
you should definitely go watch
Chernobyl.
Totally to not. I mean, it's
all on Wiki. It all already was even before they
made the movie, so, you know, it's all easily
accessible information.
I think Chernobyl and when they see
us, both insanely
realistic, affecting
stories from the late 80s,
mid to late 80s, that still
resonate so terrifyingly deeply today like you know you watch these and you think like wow
everything sucked back then and then you think about it for two seconds and it's like wow
nothing has changed you know like we still have people in power that will literally
shovel bodies into pits in order to cover up their own mistakes and one of the villains of when
they see us is the president now like I think you know you talk about five hours that give you a
complete version of the complete depiction of an important event and connect it directly to today
without even having to try all that hard they were both amazing they both made me feel really
fucking terrible um and yeah i don't think i yeah i don't think i saw any non-marvel
movies so we're good there yeah when they see us as a tv show you should actually watch unlike
love island um i also didn't see any movies so great job all of us we're doing great
been busy we've been a little bit busy which we're going to get to next week well well by the time
this comes out people will know why we were busy yeah y'all know what we've been up to now so there
we haven't been to the movies we're busy um the i also thought spencer was going to steal one of mine i thought
he was going to say the unauthorized batch brothers experience which oh he wrote i think he got all those
i have that i have that filed under music but the multi-mead's also the multimedia experience it's it what
did they call it a visual poem it was a video yeah it's a book it was a visual poem um yeah i
fucking i am i will say this if the lonely island had been a thing when i was in high school
especially early high school there's an entire there's a distinct possibility i would have
instead of trying to go through and have a normal job which didn't pan out admittedly i would have
just skipped straight to try to be other version of the Lonely Island, which would have been a
terrible plan, a terrible plan. So I'm thankful that they delayed it, but the ultimate,
the unauthorized Bash Brothers experience is magnificent, like a truly magnificent piece of work.
The other two are a little more straightforward. Salt, fat, acid heat on Netflix, if you haven't
seen it, it's only four episodes, which is really enjoyable because as a like,
constantly tired person
whenever there's a new show
and it's like yeah there's 12
I'm like nope
just I don't
I can't I'm gonna put
save it for later
one day I'll get to that
but it was a nice
it kind of captured a little bit
not entirely because nobody ever
truly can of the same sort of
Anthony Bourdain's spirit
of somebody who like
really is
really loves
the idea of food
and the culture of food
in a way that is deep and pure and enjoyable.
And it was also, frankly, like,
one of the few cooking shows I've watched
that had a lot of practical applications
and that I have, like, learned more.
Did you get her book?
I haven't, no, but...
It's really good.
I've heard it's great.
I have, like, used some of the methods
and, I think, borrowed some of the recipes from the show.
But, yeah, I just thought it was great.
And the other one,
One, good omens on Amazon.
Like, also a pretty short watch and just weird and enjoyable.
Yeah, just recommend all three of those.
That takes us to what, Spencer?
I believe we're on to, you know, we could do places because, you know, we did actually go places in the offseason and not just for the full cast.
Ann Arbor was lovely, by the way.
If you don't get a chance, if you live, you know, in third coast territory, if you live in the sweltering south in the summer, go to like Wisconsin or Michigan in the summer.
That ain't a joke. Go do it. They're hiding things up there.
You're already used to the mosquitoes.
Yeah. Go up there because lake life up there, lake life is real and it is spectacular.
And because they only have like two months of summer, they go hard. Like everyone's on a boat.
it's perfectly legal to drive a boat on a highway in Wisconsin to work during the summer
shirtless and barefoot I swam to the grocery store in Vermont this summer which is so
fucking obnoxious not even lying you can do that but the place I went that was absolutely
awesome Rocky Mountain National Park for one Grand Lake real original you know it's not
original but it's good shut down full cast it's not original
Was this our basic bitch summer?
Oh, yeah.
I'm fine if it was because my answer, we'll get to mine, but I definitely had a basic bitch summer.
Brian, you and I were talking about this just the other day.
No one ever told me how fucking relaxing being washed was going to be.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's pretty great.
Yeah, I'm putting a splash of juice in my cranberry seltzer.
Look out, world!
I stayed up until 1105.
Oh, God, why?
No, I didn't.
I'm lying about it.
Oh, good.
yeah that's that was that was delightful got to make a fire every night in like a summer month which was awesome and almost ran into a moose like a bull a young bull just hanging out eating stuff off of tree you know which that was a delight uh the second best place i went was the uh lafayette louisiana poppies for the buffet uh we did that on the way to south by southwest the buffet in lafayette louisiana not not all of us did spencer
not all of us that is true we'll get you there brother we'll get you there thank you one day we
will all be received at the Lafayette Louisiana Popeyes buffet uh absolutely lovely place and
you know what the third best place I went this off season that was not within like 40 miles of
my house Buckees baby Buckees anywhere on I-10 it's the most amazing one of the most amazing
places in Texas and you've made a Bucky snack discovery since then haven't you?
Oh yeah Pinterest is all about like how to make Bucky snacks at home
so they'll teach you how to make beaver nuggets and
and their barbecue and all of their snacks
like there's like people who are trying to home
like there's a homebrew Pinterest Bucky's cult
and I am a staunch member of it now
Holly what you got?
I went for the second year in a row
I went up to Vermont to spend the 4th of July
with friend of the program the gurgling cod
and his family
it's American as hell
a lot of Confederate flags in Maine, as we've noted before.
A noted Confederate stronghold of Maine.
This time I had some kind of gnarly, awful summer flu situation for the first half of the week.
But even that wasn't so bad.
Vermont is a lovely place to recuperate.
And I spent the rest of the time swimming around in a freezing-ass lake and attempting without success to drown my nephew.
That's very reminiscent of the like,
Of, like, the health retreats of, I don't know, the early...
I went to take the waters.
This is, yeah, it's very much like, this is where, this is where eventually special K was invented.
But at first, it was a suppository, and it hurt.
And I really did swim to the grocery store, because it's across the lake.
You can walk around the lake on the gravel, or you could swim to the grocery store.
Yeah, that's pretty dope. Jason?
Yeah.
between work stuff and gymnastics
I spent at least a day in
Austin, Birmingham, Chattanooga, Chicago, Detroit Hilton Head
Houston, Memphis, and Savannah
Best meal was Central Barbecue in Memphis
So Memphis wins
Did you get to go to the pyramid whilst in Memphis?
We opted not to
That's all right
But yeah
We did gaze upon it
And our hotel's entire view was of the place
Can I be honest? I think there is a future.
I'm like Dr. Stranging this a little bit.
There is one future outcome for us as a group where we eventually own that pyramid.
Ooh, okay.
I don't know if we'll ever get there, but it is a possibility in the horizon.
Can we own just a floor and charge people who ride through it?
Sure.
We're going to have to get right with anubis before we purchase that.
Are you not already?
I got to check.
Okay.
I don't want that to be something I just assume, right?
No, that's fair.
Because it seems like pyramid ownership has certain hefty spiritual requirements and responsibilities, right?
Yeah.
Like, I got to make sure that I get a, I make sure I get the prime spiritual interest rate when we put it down payment on this, okay?
Because those things, apparently you own them forever.
What's up, Kiyops?
My vacation, I only really took one vacation this off season.
But my wife and I went to Palm Springs for a couple of days.
Oh, that's a good one.
This was in like spring, so not in like the peak heat of summer.
And I have never taken a vacation where you just go somewhere and don't do anything.
I am very much the kind of person who's like, okay, we're going to this city or this country, and here's the itinerary, and here's all the shit we're going to go see.
And like, we're going to try to pack it in and, you know, like, do have some experiences.
And it's not that Palm Springs doesn't have the opportunity for experiences.
It's that we opt.
No, there's nothing to do.
There's like some nature stuff you can do.
But in a good way.
Yeah, there's like, there are some, like, hikes and things like that if you want to go do them.
We just opted out of all that shit.
And we just spent, like, two days hanging out by a pool, drinking, like, frozen drinks, eating meals by ourselves without a toddler.
Like, didn't do a lot.
And it was awesome.
It was one of the best vacations I've ever had.
Doing stuff maybe sucks, as it turns out.
Or not doing stuff is better than you think it is.
Maybe that's the nicer way to put it.
Yeah.
What is that?
So we have two more categories or just one, Spencer?
We just have one, I believe.
We got music.
And then we're going to finish with the true culture video games.
That's right.
That's right.
Yeah. So with music, my main recommendation, Gibbs. Gives, baby. Freddie Gibbs and Madlitt Bandana. I didn't hear anything better that came out this year. I listened to a lot of Deaf Heaven, but that came out last year.
Also, that's Jason's fault.
Yeah, we did. I listened to more death metal this year than I have ever listened to in my life.
I say fault. That is Jason's bounty that he gave to us. Yeah. Now, Deaf Heaven is not Dead Heaven.
death metal.
It's a, it's a, it's a grim curse.
It is.
It's a grim curse that,
that I have placed upon you.
Curse of a V instead of a you.
Curse.
Yeah.
The black fog of metal has obscured my brain.
That mainly came from driving to South by Southwest and having Jason recommend
death metal tracks, most of which involved Odin and involved serious, like,
Norse nationalism, which I,
I appreciate, Jason, you...
You got to walk a careful line.
Yeah, I appreciate you.
You let us very carefully by the hand,
threading through the more problematic areas of Norwegian metal.
Yeah, as long as you're sticking with, like, you know,
we think Odin is cool and not like,
we think the entire continent of Europe and everyone who's born on it is cool.
You know, that's the line you got to walk.
Yeah, so I really appreciate that.
But yeah, Fredt Gibbs and Madlip Bandana.
I've been listening to it for like a month straight.
That and New Big Crit, Crit Hill, that's fantastic.
Just get either one of those, you'll be fine, but Gibbs and Madlib are not sane.
They're great because Chance the rapper put out an album this past week, which was positive and optimistic.
And well, and well reviewed by Bill de Blasio.
I was going to say well reviewed by Chance's reps.
Yes, well reviewed by Chances Raps and very much, you know, like, hey, let's get a breath of fresh air into the otherwise violent, cruel, and misogynistic world of rap.
And I was like, yeah, that's cool.
Presses play on half man, half cocaine over and over again.
Which half is cocaine?
It doesn't sound like Freddie Gibbs is half cocaine.
Sounds like it's all about cocaine.
You're like, what's every song on this record about?
It's all about cocaine.
The 90s really are back.
Yeah, it's fine.
That's just work-life balance.
Coke-life balance.
Cocaine at work, cocaine at home.
Cocaine in my microwave.
Holly?
What?
You have a music recommendation.
I like that Holly briefly dissociates from the idea that we're doing a podcast.
Listen, he talks at me a lot.
Okay.
And you just, you got to run.
an algorithm in your head asked you whether
you are going to be...
No, I know. You go into hypersleep and the computer's supposed to wake you up when he's done
talking. Yeah. Big old hairy hal over
here. Um,
so
I promise this isn't a joke, but at like 420 this morning I woke up
and I thought, in Randy Travis's hard rock bottom of your heart
in the bridge, I know, this is at the end of the second verse. I'm sorry.
He talks about how the house that he's built with his lady is still standing and it's got a good foundation.
And then Randy Travis says in so many words, do you want to repair this house that you and I have built together?
Or do you want to burn it down?
And at like 420, I snapped awake this morning.
And I was like, Randy Travis means that literally.
Do you still love me or do you want me to set our house on fire?
Anyway, that's kind of the space that I'm in right now.
I've been listening to a lot of 90s.
I've been listening to a lot of 90s country.
if John Michael Montgomery comes on the radio
I won't necessarily turn it off
but also I really like Betty Who's new album
which is not that new anymore
it came out in February but go get it
she's from Australia
there I'm trying to keep this fast
that's all Jason
obviously co-sign Freddy Gibbs
co-signed Swedish death metal
don't go to Norwegian
that's when that's when something
really cool happens
Sweden they know how to make
songs that probably will not
try to overthrow your government
in a racist way.
Probably.
Also, speaking of overthrowing governments,
Carly Ray Jepson,
the best white musician on Earth.
Really the only white musician we need.
We can get rid of all the others.
What about Randy Travis?
Is he white?
Good point.
I'm not actually sure that he's of Earth.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Carly Ray is from Canada, so we know she's white.
No, I know there are not white people in Canada.
Anyway, that's it.
I don't have any new edition this year, mostly because I have a toddler,
so most of my musical rotation is just like...
What is the worst kids' bops song you heard this year?
We have not, we haven't gotten any kids' bop.
We don't do that.
Raffy?
We're a colleague, one of our colleagues, Georgia Cally, came up to me before the Austin show
and said, so Raffy, huh?
Because I didn't realize that we had, I still had my Spotify set to public.
So if you looked at it for some period, it looked like I was just listening.
Because we play it, we put it on when she goes to sleep, and it just sort of plays
quietly all night.
So if you look at my Spotify history, I look like an insane person who every night around
7 or 7.30 just goes out into the world and murders people while listening to Rafi until the
sun comes up.
That might be a, man, see, this is where I wish Patriot had gotten a third season.
see um i will say this is a parent thing though yeah yeah like like yeah like if you yeah i will do
this right now okay like if i show you if if i go like but you have boys so it's all like
video game soundtracks well yeah but like you know just to translate it to show you like okay hey
that was going to be a segue into us talking about video games but sure go through your spotify this
is great audio content i was just saying like if you look at mine it'll go hey most listen to
artists and you know it's like hey pretty gives and then there's some like
N-E-R-D, and then there is Kumu, some dude named Kumu with a keyboard who just puts out
like Crash Bandicoot music, right?
And Kids Pop 34, which is way better than Kids Bob 33, fell off.
Because that's the one that has the clean version of 24-Karret magic on it.
I am glad that Big Boy just discovered the Kids'Bop version of Miss Jackson,
which has a little white boy with Bama Bangs
singing about making your daughter cry.
Oh, no, that's Maddie Ice.
That's not kids, bud.
That's not kids' fault.
Oh, is it not?
Okay.
Sorry about that.
I will say, I went back.
His name's not Maddie Ice.
Yeah, I'm calling it.
Our quarterback is not that kid.
For some reason, I went back a couple weeks ago,
and I listened to the entirety of the college dropout,
mostly because it's 15 years old, which feels really,
weird and it's just like it was it was a very strange experience just remembering like oh that was
conier west at a certain period of time when that kind of music was also pretty radically different
from what was surrounding it and like i don't know maybe it was just an intensely personal
experience but it was interesting to go back listen to that whole album start to finish now versus
in 2004?
Video games?
Video games.
Yeah.
There's only one video game.
That's not true.
No, there are, there.
Teach the controversy.
All right.
You know, this, I actually haven't been playing.
Like, I played Red Dead and then just kind of.
It takes it out of you, man.
It did.
I had to, like, emotionally, I had to take a break from video games.
but I have been playing one game with my kids
that is wildly entertaining
and that is totally accurate battle simulator
it's not accurate at all
it's made by the same bunch of Swedes
who did stick fight if you played stick fight
where you were stick figures
killing each other and ever more elaborate
spy versus spy kind of wacky slapstick ways
but it's the only video game I've ever seen
that lets you pit 100 hobbits versus one mass
on what's the words that could happen press play to find out uh holly uh i've been enjoying the the fruits
of mario maker too which i've been waiting to come out for months and months and months
because um as you guys all know listening out there we've had a lot going on and there's
nothing that i enjoy more at the end of a 15 hour workday than building a hill that has a hundred
little spinies on it and just sliding down that whole hill have you seen the video of the
Mario no oh god that video gave me so I know what you're talking the one the one that just has the
rotating columns of fire oh god it made me so anxious yeah my heart is racing right now thinking
about it yeah it's real itchy real jeez jason uh I there were two one was hearts of iron a
glorified World War II spreadsheet simulator.
Y'all would hate it.
Man, there's like a segment
of our listenership who would like it, but
it's only for people who just
adore spreadsheets. I think Holly's right. Somebody on
the full cast Reddit suggested
like starting a league or something.
Yeah, I feel like there's a significant
portion of our more online
readership who would really like this game.
Yeah. Like right now
I'm a Democratic China and
I'm the world's only hope to defeat the Nazis.
That's exactly how it played out now.
always thought of you as a democratic china thank you uh the other one was excom too which it's uh you
you shoot aliens and stuff and i managed to turn it into college football content which
will be published at some point in august you'll see um my recommendation i did finally
finish red dead too and at some point we'll do the catch up episode on that people a few people
have been asking about that um but my recommendation the new spider it's not that new at this point
the new spider man like just a ton of fun um really well made there have been a but there have been
so many bad spider man video games in the last 10 20 years golden age of good new spider man content
yeah there's a lot of good spider shit out there um but yeah i heard it i heard it
An afternoon to the out-of-context full-cast account and only to the out-of-context full-cast account.
But the video game is great.
The story is good.
The gameplay is...
Like, it's just fucking fun to swing around the city as Spider-Man.
It just really is.
It never...
It doesn't get boring.
I think I've...
I think I've beat the game three times now, just because I...
That's how much I enjoyed the...
The digital act of being Spider-Man.
The digital act.
That's right. That's right. Speaking of digital acts, we have, we have a new thing, right? Should we talk about the new thing briefly or should we save that?
This is probably the last time we'll have full control of this narrative. So let's enjoy it while it lasts. Let's go.
So the, I work here now. Holly works here. The four of us, the four of us, Bud Elliott, Richard Johnson, Alex Kirshner, Stephen Godfrey.
and I should have said the five of us
because Brian Floyd,
constant member of the shutdown forecast.
Well, apologies, Floyd.
Good to have you.
We're starting a new thing called Banner Society.
We've already, by the time you listen to it,
we've already kind of started it.
Or if you've been watching Love Island, it's called Banter Society.
Spencer, because you'll probably say,
no, I don't want to give him more excuses to do it, Holly.
Excuse me, I'm having him burn it off every day in my heart.
home that's your fault you brought this is the version of no no no i am detonating him over an unpopulated
area day after day this is the action of a friend you piece of shit you invited this british vampire
into your home you sick son of a bitch i'm sorry i'm just trying to like take more and more
of ryan's corner spencer um kid you because you'll say something that will probably get us in
trouble um what are you what are you most spencer's the one i'm worried about out of this group great
great point what are you most excited about for us with banner society i am most excited about banner society
of basically writing about college football the way that we want to and do best and covering it the way
we do because it'd be cool if we could just you know post up on a blog 500 times a day and that's not
how things work and that's not how we do things anymore that's not where people live it's fun
to do live shows it's fun to actually go out in the world but it's also fun
to just have ways of like talking about things that aren't you know so heavily formal like
we're going to do a lot of stuff that is extremely immediate and involves like uh you know
relatively short notice on some of these things and that i think is like what was really good
about sort of the original sports internet is that it was pretty intimate close fast right uh and
very fun very like i mean i i i am literally here because i was a commenter on every day should be
Saturday. Yeah, sorry, everybody.
And like, we did. And I think a lot of like
the stuff that Spencer gave you me. So
it's your fault. Hey. Look at your coach. Look at the fruits of your coaching
tree, hoss. Gifts. Gifts all around.
Blessings. The thing that I
like the internet kind of has, you know, like coronary artery
disease. There's just these kind of hardened pathways that people
fall into. And the way that we're going to work is kind of
out of those. A lot of them at least.
we have burst the vase we're the chest bursters we are better society we've got statins
we yeah we've got statins and facehuggers come talk to us this is why i'm not in sales meetings
no it's why you should be um holly same question for you i was going to say speaking of sales
meetings uh i know it's been frustrating for a lot of you out there who have come to our live
shows and i've discovered that we can't so much as uh sell you a t-shirt um
And when you're part of a large company, there's a lot of processes that you have to go through.
And we're hoping with this new initiative that we're going to be able to do more directly with you, our audience, in terms of coming to you with live events, like we said before, giving you, giving you the opportunity to buy things that we make and like and think are cool.
If I get actually serious for just one sec, I never intended to come back to sports.
I didn't really miss it while I was gone
I didn't miss consuming it
with the habits that I've now returned to
and I didn't miss covering it
but that team that Ryan just rattled off
that how could I turn that down
so I'm back sorry
you'll never be rid of me
she's in the walls
I'm in your suit
Jason
kind of like Holly said
the ability to if we have an idea
we can just fucking do it
and that's no
to our previous situation.
It's just a large setup.
Companies grow up and we helped that company grow up.
Yeah, as the company got bigger and bigger and bigger, you know, it became,
it became more of a process to just try some stuff.
So, you know, with a compact experiment like this, we'll be able to just, you know,
have an idea, see if it works.
Can I back up for one thing that we forgot to say at the top that you just reminded me of?
because one thing I think that has a danger of getting lost, especially here as we're setting
out, is that y'all listening at home, hi, you look nice today and you smell good.
What's about to happen here is an experiment, and I don't think any of us can emphasize that
strongly enough.
We don't know if this is going to work.
We have a pretty good idea of who our audience is.
We've been doing this for a lot of years, as the old ball coach says.
Yep.
And we don't know if what happens is about.
to work and if we're going to find an audience with this new platform but um we're an experimental
mode for hopefully the next couple years and we would love to hear from you guys and what you think of
it yes i'm asking you to at me don't add me about that i mean don't add holly because she's
no don't she's probably she's probably you can at me all you want i ain't go see it um but yeah we're
this is an experiment and uh if there's anything that you've ever wished that we that we got to
devote more time to let us know we want to hear from you this is this is about bringing us closer
to you this is me bringing my nose very close to yours in a non-threatening way okay back to jason
ryan you're oh sure um well i have two answers for what is most exciting um one tell the apple
picking story no i'm not telling the apple picking story uh one we're hiring a podcast producer you probably
we've already seen us.
If you fall.
Boo.
Listen, listen, listen, the deep and heavy shame that every time somebody is like, the
full cast is unlistenable, Ryan is shouting and Jason is whispering, and there's dogs
everywhere.
First of all, the dogs are staying.
We're not getting rid of the dogs.
And the bugs.
The bugs are staying too.
If you apply for this position and you're like, okay, so we're going to, like, move
Jason inside?
No.
We're not moving Jason inside, mostly because he won't do it.
You're going to learn to work around it, and that's fine.
It's called texture.
It adds the experience.
But I am excited to have somebody on this show and on podcast.
I ain't played nobody who can help them sound a little better,
help them listen.
We're acknowledging the existence of PAPN.
From this day forward, PAPN is a trusted friend and no longer an unacknowledged enemy.
So that's number one.
Number two, it's really exciting that we'll get to work with each other a lot more.
Jason has always done a really good job of making sure that, like,
we overlap and
Richard's work
lines up with Bud's work
lines up with Godfrey's work
lines up with Spencer's work
but I think
Banner Society is going to
give us a really good opportunity
to do that even more
because like
every listen
my three co-hosts on this show
are very smart
and so are
four again
sorry Floyd
and so is so is everybody else
associated with this project
and it's just
it's really enjoyable
to get to
benefit from their brains and their backgrounds and their ability to sort of see college football
as this kaleidoscope that you just turn it this way or that and it's different and then it's
different again and then it's different again like the collaborative aspect of this and the
idea that we will cross the streams more because that's how we will defeat gozer like that
I guess it's what I'm trying to say is now we can finally defeat gozer.