Shutdown Fullcast - SEVEN MOVIES THAT ARE NONE OF MY BUSINESS

Episode Date: September 7, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Should we mean pilots? Ooh. That's a good question. If you hit a 30-minute delay at the airport, it's literally faster to drive to Charlotte at this point. What are the requirements to be a commercial pilot? It can't be that. You can also, I mean. Wear a cool hat.
Starting point is 00:00:15 I only know this because of the 9-11 Saskatchewan musical, but you can get that, no, okay. Brian, you know what I'm talking about. Not Saskatchewan. Yes. No, no, no, Nova Scotia. Come from away. I've seen it. Wow.
Starting point is 00:00:29 My mother made me see it. I got to say it's better than I thought it was going to be. It's not bad. Considering you're going to a musical about 9-11, it's not bad. It's not bad. But that lady, the lady pilot who sings the one good song in the whole show, her first job in real life was flying a single engine plane for a mortician. Like she would fly dead bodies.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Hell yes. Like people who died away from home. So that's got to be pretty easy job, right? Just like you in a You in a coffin Fly the deadly skies We could probably do that Let's do it
Starting point is 00:01:06 What if we just started a morgue? So I need a flying morgue Full casket A casket wants to be full It craves the dead Feed it A casket without a body system box I know that casket's eating good
Starting point is 00:01:20 That's a that's a Tim Couch size casket right there It's what it's illiterate Yeah Sorry. That's the Liam Michelle Casket. Dude, and her opening night is tonight. This is too much gossip.
Starting point is 00:01:37 You can't, by the way. There's too much happening today. You can't get that woman hesitating for a second on camera to read a cue card. Do you guys know, this is very specific. Spencer Ness because I told them this, do you guys know the origin of Leah and Michelle can't read? It is basically the Broadway podcast equivalent of the full cast. This is a meme from a Broadway podcast that broke contain.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Like it was a complete throwaway. joke. There was, it was Naya Rivera's memoir had a beat in it about how Leah Michelle, like, really hated improvising. And one of the hosts just as a toss off was like, well, yeah, that's probably because she can't read. Like, it's like something Ryan would say. And it just completely caught fire. And now, like, she has to address it in a public statement. Oh. But it's exactly the kind of, it would be like, this is the Broadway equivalent of if Craig James had to address, no, I did not kill. sex workers way back when like if Craig James had ever been forced to make that public statement
Starting point is 00:02:35 this is what has happened to Leah Michelle which is very funny because she's a monster I can't really like every time she is like on the timeline there's somebody who finds a clip of her at an award show where there is a card and she's presenting the award and she does what everyone does when you open a card and you haven't prepared for your award show spot you wait a beat to see who's going to read it or if you're going to read it together right no but now it's all that gets on there and they're like she can't read look she waited a second she's literate and then she's like well and then her statement was like uh I was her statement does nothing to refute it it was I was at glee every day I knew my lines and this wouldn't happen if I were a man
Starting point is 00:03:17 and I was like bitch if you had harassed people on set the way that you did and were a man at the same time you would be under a jail somewhere it's a shame that Jesus and Mary broke up because they would have definitely, they would have definitely had her on the show and handed her something and be like, read this outlaw. And had it handed her like cars and trucks and things that go. What do you want your rainbow to say? I don't know. Write it down. Write it down. I feel very bad for somebody who's illiterate unless they're Leah, Michelle, or Florida weather. That's, you know, everyone deserves the gift of knowledge except for those two people.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Yeah. It's lost on them. Oh, Donald Trump has to be literate. Why do you keep all those documents if he's not? Because he didn't know they were classified. Yeah, what? That's true. This is his best legal defense.
Starting point is 00:04:07 This paper is read. It must be mine. Welcome to the shutdown fullcast. You are listening to the Internet's only college football podcast. I am Spencer Hall joining me this week. After week one of college football and on the verge of week two is Ryan Nanny, live from the number one team of the nation Vanderbilt Commodore's home of Nashville, Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Ryan, are you showing your gold? Are you feeling them doors? I'm getting my biscuits, show them a gold. Playoff picks, baby. Get you a biscuit, Ron. Damn it, Spencer. I have one Vanderbilt related thing I would like to share. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:19 My oldest child started kindergarten this year and goes to a school pretty close to Vanderbilt. So the athletics department does a bunch of shit with the school. Like they had women's basketball players there on the first day to like help with, you know, welcoming kids of school, whatever. It's all very nice. But one of the things they're doing is a reading drive where if you read, if your child reads 20 minutes nine times, so three hours total. And you attest to all of this, your child can then get two tickets to the Vandy Florida game. And I'm just like.
Starting point is 00:05:55 I'm just like, what is, guys, oh, man. If your child only reads 10 minutes a day, they get four tickets to the van derives. They can sell those tickets for like $7. That's enough to buy a personal pan pizza. So Book it is back. Book it is back. We should just offer, we should offer to buy those from the school children. We should say, listen, we will take those on second market.
Starting point is 00:06:18 What much of a price? I mean, we got to take our cut. So kids, you know, don't try to stiff us. don't try to let short us Hey if you're in the Atlanta area by the way Junior's Pizza in Summerhill is doing their own bucket program and you should go check them out
Starting point is 00:06:33 because they're fine people who make fine pizza this is not a paid ad I just noticed that they had launched their own booket program this year. We just like juniors but yeah atmosphere here electric is Vandy City through and through everybody's just you know
Starting point is 00:06:49 book your tickets now to the national championship wherever it is because Ryan, are you worried this is going to be confusing for your child who thought the Nashville city flag was the orange one with the tea on it? It's good to be confused early on about college football, I think so. I think it's a healthy bill. How do you talk to your child about an undefeated Vanderbilt? I think the thing is the Vanderbilt flag is more of a national thing. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:07:20 It's not just one city or one state. yeah yeah i wanted to also welcome in the voice you just heard that would be jason kirk jason i haven't asked about how your kentissau state owls are doing um i don't know i haven't looked it up they uh they played a game i let's find out right now let's find out right now once again jason has a healthier relationship to college football than all of us yes committed we lost to samford i'm sure we'll beat cincinnati though so that'll turn out just fine. My team this year is Iowa.
Starting point is 00:07:55 My team last year was Nebraska, so I'm just counting the days till Black Friday when they meet and the most disgusting thing of the year happens. You're going to go, right? I assume you're going to go. You know, that's sounding better by the minute.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Hey, this reminds me, if you missed Fullcast After Dark on Saturday night, it is now publishing in two different places. It is in its own feed, Fullcast After Dark. It is also, apparently, as we learned yesterday, publishing in the regular full cast feed. So that's the same episode if you see it, but
Starting point is 00:08:29 there's two different places to grab that now. For those of you who complained that pushing a different button to subscribe was hard. Can we also get it to the New York Times, the daily feed? Jane, help us out with this. There's got to be at least one Vox Media feed. It still populates somehow. It's probably still surely still fired up on a fucking revenge of the birds There's somebody who's like, you know what I need are moderate opinions about lukewarm topics. Well, after a couple of weeks, they're also pretty short on college football content after the events of the past couple weeks.
Starting point is 00:09:04 So I've heard. I would like a tuna melt that's been left in a car. Yeah, the audio equivalent of that. What time of year, Ryan? It might be 40 degrees outside, idiot. Food poisoning. 40 degrees is food poisoning. Never mind.
Starting point is 00:09:17 It might be 20 degrees outside, idiot. Frozen. tuna melt. Not Celsius. 40 degrees Celsius, yeah, baby, come on. That's like a, that's burnt, right?
Starting point is 00:09:25 The tuna melts is on fire. Yep. I don't know. Sorry, Gabo, the only Lord we worship is Kelvin. Celsius is fucked up.
Starting point is 00:09:32 It'd be like, oh my God, it's so hot. It's 30 degrees, you know? Yeah, I don't know how those people live with themselves.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Kelvin is a very, Kelvin is a very backup quarterback that everybody at Clemson is like, why isn't he playing name? Kelvin is perfect for that. Kelvin, listen, Kelvin Lord.
Starting point is 00:09:48 I can't tell you. right now that Kelvin Lord wasn't an Oklahoma State option quarterback, right? I really can't. Like, you could be like, yeah, he played for two years and he ran for 600 yards that, you know. He was 6'6, 104 pounds, and he was 48 years old. The thing that I'm really going to miss about the dissolution of the Big 12 is the spreading across the country of the Big 12 names, which are such an underrated and unique concept. Like, I'm going to say one thing about Tennessee football.
Starting point is 00:10:16 I feel better having a kicker named Paxton. That sounds like Big 12, and that sounds like points to me. That's why Paxton Lynch didn't pan out in the NFL. Yeah, he was launching his body. He was launching the ball from the wrong limbs. Yeah, I feel way better if we have somebody named Jackson, Jackson, Jackson. With at least two X's. There's got to be X's, right?
Starting point is 00:10:41 Is that a World Combat-inspired thing? God, I hope so. I hope so many people, I hope, you know, I played Mortal Kombat, combat, and I thought, what an entertaining button masher. Look, can get off that swing set. Other people played it and thought, I want to know more about this universe and its personalities, something I never thought. Like, the idea of, hey, there's an entire series of actual souls and personalities in this
Starting point is 00:11:06 story, and I want to know more. I'm like, wow, and you named your kids after them. Yeah, Shang-Sung Shipley out of Westlake. Have I just seen a fucking LSU defensive tackle name, Goro Babbinard. Gore, E-A-U-X. Gore-R-E-A-U-X, R-E-A-U-X, go-R-E-A-U-X. G-A-U-X. R-E-A-U-X.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Then you can do the Ted Lassar thing. It's pronounced G-Hoh. Just as parents at some clinic and Kenner going, listen, can you get another pair of arms real cheap on the black market? I got a big cooler you can keep him. Make no longer. So I'm on him. that's a first rounder
Starting point is 00:11:50 you ever seen a defensive tackle with four arms man what's the wingspin on the young man which pair of wings you add the two wingspans together I think you'd have to yeah Mike Mayock just losing his goddamn
Starting point is 00:12:06 we've sewn two asses onto this defensive tackle oh my god he's got double the motor he's got double bubble so many bubbles on goro babano two stomachs and five asses
Starting point is 00:12:20 first round ah shit we built a cow I saw I saw a beast descending out of the sea with a bubble butt the size of Houston you just invented the Pontiac Aztec shit
Starting point is 00:12:35 just Mike Mayock driving through Gaffney South Carolina going now that's a bubble please stop making that noise what horny Mike Mayock ever problem it turns out I don't like it yeah
Starting point is 00:12:54 I gotta be honest I'm revolted while doing it I thought it was football season y'all said you're ready for some football I can't spell revolted without VOL that's why they ask you are you ready first you might not be
Starting point is 00:13:09 it's like a vampire the Utah Saints gave us several measures to determine I am not I am not yet ready for some football Please stick with baseball It's all I can handle right now I swear to God if I ever meet him
Starting point is 00:13:23 Or I work in a professional capacity with Mike Mayock I will keep a peach with me And eat it suggestively in front of them Oh man that's gonna get a lot of juices in your beard Yeah I'm sorry I said juice I upset myself just by saying juices He's gonna have to excuse himself from the room
Starting point is 00:13:38 He'll be so distracted Oh why is my mouth water He's gonna go leave the room Bring in a table And bang the table Now I'm picturing Mike Mayock as a magician Just like pulling props out of his jacket That he can make theatrical booth noises with
Starting point is 00:13:58 Like just like pulling a gavel out of a tiny little handkerchief pocket Like a clown scarf We never saw Mike Mayock's emails I bet they're just all They're just all that scene They're still taught the day's young They're just all from that scene from law and order Where you know it's like
Starting point is 00:14:14 Hey we found 24 gigs of women's butts on this athlete it wouldn't it wouldn't be women's
Starting point is 00:14:20 it just closed athlete butts and you can't tell which gender just athlete
Starting point is 00:14:24 butts folks if you can access Mike Mayox drop box
Starting point is 00:14:27 please email us at 38 Godfrey anonymity guaranteed what's this hard drive
Starting point is 00:14:34 that just says combine cake what is that that that's that's I'm
Starting point is 00:14:41 an apple ass okay Connor make the shirt Connor make the shirt We wanted to before we did anything else today Have a moment of cultural exchange Because the full cast supports the arts In all of their forms football
Starting point is 00:14:59 Just being one of them Whereas steets is what we're saying Connoisseurs of Fine Culture across the board This is gonna be a really good episode For people who are like I want to recommend the full cast to a friend Who's never listened to it before It's the start of college football season.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Surely they'll talk about that. We did. Surely we'll talk about Brian Kelly struggling. No, we have the entire rest of the season to do that. We're going to do that. That's happening. I guarantee you. I'm not going to miss an opportunity.
Starting point is 00:15:28 They're like, why would you laugh at a man in his misfortune? I would be like, have you met Brian Kelly? That's what Brian Kelly would do. Let's go ahead and start with, I want to say with the Ryan and Holly side of this, because Jason and I have one thing to discuss. Ryan and Holly have another cultural item to discuss. We promised. We're going to learn today.
Starting point is 00:15:47 We're going to teach each other things that we did not know before. Yeah, we promised this in jest on the timeline this morning, and it turned out a number of you actually want to hear about this. The thing about the drama surrounding Olivia Wilde's directorial debut, Don't worry, darling at the Venice Film Festival, is that I found out about the drama from Ryan and Bunky Perkins before I found out about it from either my group text
Starting point is 00:16:14 or from film Twitter. So it's not her debut, right? Because BookSmart was her debut, wasn't it? See, I'm learning already because I forgot about that. Yes, yes. Despite having seen BookSmart. BookSmart was very well received and is a
Starting point is 00:16:30 I think it is a big reason why this movie has generated a lot of attention leading up to it. Right. Right. Well, and also because there was we just to set the background Olivia Wilde and Jason Sudakis are getting divorced and the reason this was in our particular
Starting point is 00:16:49 zeitgeist is because of the Ted Lasso of it all and also we were thinking Olivia Wilde was being just a scosh bit silly because she got served with some form of legal papers pertaining to the divorce at a different film festival and called it an attack to be served at her workplace as though
Starting point is 00:17:08 this is not exactly what process servers do and this is not the point of having a process server. She acted like her ex came up there and threw these papers at her on stage at a film festival. No, babe, have you ever, has she, is she the only person in the Hollywood who's never been on law and order? This is kind of how it works. So she had a fine debut, but listen, going into this, I just want to set everybody's baseline. Olivia Wilde being a little bit silly about her divorce, her boyfriend for whom she loved, left. Jason Sudeikas is Harry Stiles. Yes, that Harry Stiles. He is in this next movie. Okay. So, Ryan, that is all the information you need heading into last night.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Okay. So this movie is getting ready to, it already has by the time we're recording this and you've listened to it. It has premiered at the Venice Film Festival. Leading up to it, there is a lot of stress and a lot of drama. Florence Pugh is the star of this film. Florence Pugh of Midsummer and Black Widow. If you're wondering where you've heard that name. And fighting with my family. Florence Pee's basically... Which will come back to wrestling in a minute.
Starting point is 00:18:17 She has basically decided, like, she's done doing promotional work for this film. Do you want to talk about why? So, I think... I think the simplest way to put it is that she's pissed at Olivia Wild. And there are a variety of reasons why that may or may not be the case. Some of it has to do with the fact that Shia LeBuff, was originally supposed to be playing opposite her. That's the role Harry Stiles stepped into after Shia LaBuff was kicked off the project.
Starting point is 00:18:48 So she's not, yeah. Well, there's, and there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, because, uh, Olivia claimed that she, at one point claimed that she fired Shia, because Shia's got a whole bunch of abuse allegations hanging around him going way back. And, but then a video leaked of her begging Shia to stay on the project and calling it, quote, a wake up call for Ms. Flo. Yeah. Which I think is where Twitter started to pick up on it. Yes, correct. So that's, but that has almost nothing to do with what happened in Venice. No, it's just curtains.
Starting point is 00:19:29 It's just the curtains surrounding what happened last night. So. Venice, I'm told by the way, the St. Petersburg, Florida of northeastern Italy. Is that? Yes. The smell is remarkably similar. Let's go with that. I'm not familiar.
Starting point is 00:19:42 So Chris Pine is also in this film. And Chris Pine, before last night's premiere, has just an amazing set of photographs from various other press they've been doing in Venice leading up to this. He is, he looks high in all of them. But that's sort of like disassociated high where he's sort of just like staring off into space. And he's also having to do a lot of. interviews with Harry Stiles.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Harry Stiles is not an actor. This is his first film project, and he's the lead opposite Florence Pugh, who's a very talented actor. And you need to know a couple of things about Chris Pynne. Chris Pynne basically started out as a grip in the film industry. Like, he has worked the craft services table. He has worked his way up through the film industry since he was a young man. He has a degree in English from Berkeley.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Like, Chris Pine is real pretty. He's not stupid. he is he is he is a craftsman right and he is also legendarily one of the like nicest and steadiest and did a full press tour for both the wrinkle in time movies and horrible bosses too with a smile on his face so it's not like he's not used to this either so so chris pine has to sit next to harry styles while harry styles says things like what i love about acting is that i have no idea what i'm doing there's a clip of chris pine i say that about surgery There's a clip of the camera that pans to Chris Pine, right? As Harry Style says this, and you can actually watch him dissociating in real time. He's trying to leave his body as quickly as possible. The tweet that I saw said, you can see the screams trying to claw his way out of his throat. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:24 So that's all the preface. Right. Do you want to—Holly, do you want to discuss the incident? Which incident? So I'm talking about the spitting. Okay. The spitting to me is. almost second.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Go ahead and do the spitting, because the spitting to me is almost secondary to the other thing that happens. Okay. By the way, I'm just going to say, this is where this crosses over into college football Twitter because all of this starts unfolding as we're watching Clemson, Georgia Tech, and my first awareness of this is seeing Bunky Perkins tweet in all caps, whip his ass, Chris Pine. And I'm like, Chris Pine is in the Georgia Dome.
Starting point is 00:22:03 The King of Tulsa was the one who broke the deuce. Yeah. Okay, so, yeah, Ryan, you do the spitting, and then I will take over for the Florence of it all. Okay, okay, so, so Olivia Wilde, here's the scene. Olivia Wilde and Chris Pine are already seated in the theater as they, I think, are introducing the various members of the cast as they go to their seats. And they've already done these two. And they introduce Harry Styles. For context, Harry Styles is wearing, like, the most comically large collar you've ever seen on a shirt.
Starting point is 00:22:35 He looks like a small child who was dressing as Prince for Halloween. Yes. One side of the collar is tucked into, I think he's wearing a vest. One side is not. It looks insane. But he's been wearing this the whole time. It's not like a new outfit. And as he goes to take his seat next to Chris Pine, who's sort of just like applauding
Starting point is 00:22:56 politely, not particularly notable one direction or the other, he appears, Harry Styles appears to spit on Chris Pine. And Chris Pine reacts in such a way where he pauses, he stops clapping, he looks down onto like his shirt or arm as if to, as if like I just got spit on. And he sort of just like smiles, but it's that smile that sort of just like, I know I can't do anything right now. I know that professionalism and the event we are at right now requires me to be cool. and Harry Siles takes a seat
Starting point is 00:23:36 and doesn't really make eye contact with Chris Pine just sort of like looks at Olivia Wild and gives her like a weird silly nod and now now everyone's just like did Harry Siles just fucking spit on Chris Pine Chris Pine by the way proceeds to put his sunglasses on for the movie and hopefully take a nice nap and then after the credits roll
Starting point is 00:24:00 Florence Pugh, who we'll come back to in a second, I think walks out during the applause of the movie. And Harry Stiles, who I am not going to get into the whole discussion of Harry Styles and queer baiting that is left to, I'm going to leave that to the community that it originated from. But grabbing Nick Kroll by the face and kissing him on the mouth is probably not going to make that discussion. that discussion go away?
Starting point is 00:24:32 I would defend him on one route. He really should be kissed on the mouth. Everyone should kiss Nick Crowley. He should be kissed on the mouth repeatedly for the Philadelphia pawn shop skit. The Poncelvania? The Poncelvania skit. Yeah. That is one of the finest things produced in like the last 20 years.
Starting point is 00:24:46 I would totally give him tongue for that. Yeah. To a large extent, I would agree with those who think that Harry Styles' exploration of gender roles and fashion has felt weirdly capitalistic. But he's got a body and he looks pretty on the cover of vote. I think you should probably stay there and not try to act anymore. And like pop stars do this. Yeah, pop stars do this.
Starting point is 00:25:05 So anyway, this bit of video has been Zapruder to death. It's not super clear from the video whether or not Chris Pine has actually been spit on. But all of that takes a backseat for me to return to Florence, who after all this drama, after the Miss Flood video leaked, Olivia Wilde told the press that Florence Pugh was not going to be at the Venice premiere due to scheduling conflicts. Florence shows up 10 minutes into the press conference in purple Valentino shorty pajamas with an apparel spritz in her hand and was like, I'm here. And meanwhile, her stylist is posting all these pictures of her outfits, all captioned Ms. Flo.
Starting point is 00:25:53 She shows up at the red carpet in, I think another Valentino, this stunning walkthrough. black tool with silver spangles and this is the best part of this for me and this is also where you can tell the lines in the castor drum Chris Pine and Nick Kroll pull out disposable cameras and start taking fake paparazzi photos of her on the red carpet like they're her dad
Starting point is 00:26:14 and she's going to prom and it's the cutest fucking thing ever and Gemma Chan is also appearing in this movie by the way and she's kind of standing with them so I think if you're drawing lines you put her with that group but also Gemma Chan is the most beautiful woman in the world and also all she has to do is just like
Starting point is 00:26:32 stay on there to get noticed. So if she plays a part in this drama, we are not aware of it. She's just a very beautiful backdrop at this point. But for Florence to like just show up and swan in after they said she wasn't going to be there doing the scheduling context and
Starting point is 00:26:48 steal the entire red carpet yeah. There's a, that was a bigger win. That was a bigger win than anything I saw on a football field this weekend. So, possible, like, Florence as the Anthony Richardson of this whole scenario is what I'm trying to get at. So I think that cherry on top of this entire Sunday, this movie is not good.
Starting point is 00:27:09 All the words are that this movie is not very good. But I will say my interest in it has spiked at this time and not for good reasons. Like this, I don't think it's like a, oh, this is a horribly bad film. But it's not, it's by no means like, oh, wow, this is like a real feat. And you got to see Harry Stiles in the show. shit. But the movie have been good if it had been Jason Sudecas instead of Harry Stiles. I think it would have been better. Like I have seen somebody, some, I think, I think Luke Zimmerman tweeted about this. I think some reviews have trying to be charitable compared
Starting point is 00:27:45 Harry Styles as an actor to like Elvis in his early acting. Oh, no. And it's like, that's not, that's not good. Wait, are they comparing him to Elvis or are they comparing him to Austin Butler because both are bad, but one is worse? No, I think it's Elvis. I'm pretty sure it's Elvis. You have to understand that is not the diss it could be because they could be comparing him to Elvis in his later movies when he's like a good 20, 25 pounds heavier, kind of sweaty from all the pills,
Starting point is 00:28:11 and clearly just reading off cue cards like, I would like to go to a clam bake. Rockahoola Harry. Anyway, I'm excited for one direction. So, of course, this invokes, I saw someone today this morning. The first thing I saw about this morning was somebody, saying it's exciting for white people to finally get their solange in the elevator moment. And this is basically what that is.
Starting point is 00:28:35 This is, I would like to, I would like to address one, one explanation that has been floated that I think is plainly false for the spitting specifically. The Florence, the Florence shit, like, I think that's pretty clear at this point. I have heard some people suggest that like, well, maybe this is like a fun dudes rock thing that Chris Pine and Harry Styles do like they spit on one another and it's like a fun goof who said that I've seen several ball tapping I've yes I've seen several people float that maybe this is like an inside goof between the two of them and I will listen I will grant you that men are very stupid and the idea that there could that there are two male friends out there who their joke is they spit on one another 100% yes a hundred percent yes but spit in my mouth it'll be fun yes you know that's called uh it's called a fraternity
Starting point is 00:29:35 it's baby bird yeah um um but i think if that were the case the representatives for harry styles would have come out and said that immediately it has been a good what 14 hours since this happened and and they have like if that was in case they would have come out and said so by know. This is another thing that I saw pointed out, like, for being such an immensely famous person, Harry Stiles' PR reps seem weirdly unprepared and flat-footed for all of this.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Well, it's because, like, this press tour has shown us that, like, Harry Stiles speaking extemporaneously is a very bad idea. Bad for whom? All of the clips are him just saying, like, it really felt like we were making a movie. And they keep putting him next to Chris Pine, who was so clearly in Now, Matt Zollersights, who is one of the sober film critics, I know, said getting Chris Pine to turn on you is like having Elmo hate you. What I love about this is that if you take everyone involved and look at them, I don't know, six months ago, like by and large, yes, Olivia Wilde was, I guess, somewhat divisive. But I think like, by, you know, I don't think she had like a terrible. We thought, like, we thought she was being a bit silly about, about the divorce.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Like divorce makes people do crazy things. but that was it. But people liked BookSmart and people were like, she's good with me. Right. Yeah, she's fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Florence Pugh remains unassailable. Mm-hmm. Like Harry Styles, I think by and large was like, I don't think had really a negative impact on the cultural consciousness. No, there's been a lot of, there's been a lot of discussion in various queer communities about,
Starting point is 00:31:24 like, about whether he is. Listen, you can read smarter people than me on this about the fashion choices he's making and what he's signaling and whether he is actually, you know, journeying through his gender identity or just saying, oh, look what this button does. Right, right. And you can read much smarter people than us on that. But yes, to your point, your point is correct. But even that had not approached. Oh, Harry Stiles is a dude who spits on people because he's mad at them.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Mm-hmm. And Harry Stiles, yeah. I would like to audition for the lucrative role of being his PR person and state that this is a cultural issue. Also, you can carry him around like a backpack. I could, yeah. You don't understand English people spit on each other as a sign of respect. That's right. I want somebody, I want to make that argument.
Starting point is 00:32:14 And then when I have an English person do it, I'll be like, how am I more familiar with your culture than you? I think it's you who needs to do some work. That's what one direction meant. It's I hawk a lugee out of my mouth. One direction, into the wind. I mean, there's got to be somewhere in the world where people spit each other's a sign of respect. And the British Museum means anywhere in the world is English culture. I mean, you used to spit on your handshake to seal a deal, right?
Starting point is 00:32:35 That's true. That's right. I spit on you to seal the deal of friendship. See? So, yeah, just. So, now that... This is what I'm going to say. Sorry, I got lost there for a second.
Starting point is 00:32:51 I don't want to... I don't want to have a big argument about, like, the Marvel. of movies and whether that's good or bad like all I want to say is this I do think the marvelification of the film industry has robbed us of more stories like this like Marvel movies are so like the most the closest you get to this is um what's his name with the hat who was rody in the first Iron Man and then wasn't anymore oh right right thank you referring to Terrence Howard as what's his name with the hat I believe you're referring to the esoteric mathematician.
Starting point is 00:33:29 That's right. A man with bold theories introducing new concepts that we're not ready for. That's right. Like that and maybe like the Edward Norton Hulk thing, both of which are very early in the MCU history. Man, can you imagine if we'd had Twitter when Edward Norton was like telling John Hurt that he'd had better coffee when he was living in a favela in Brazil learning the craft? Like the Marvel movies.
Starting point is 00:33:52 You call this a quarry? The Marvel movies are very. good about like the stories coming out of these are going to be positive and like we want everyone to believe that the Avengers are friends and like there's no there's no hint of like disagreement or discord or whatever and I that's what we need more of we need more we need more independent films where Harry Styles spits on somebody who's been working at acting for the last 35 years miss life also again do you know how you have to do you know what an angel you have to be to look like Chris Pine and still have everybody like you?
Starting point is 00:34:29 It's very dangerous, by the way, to develop parasocial friendships. We realize this, that these are not people we know. However, I want to state that I think I'm being pretty moderate when I say that I would die for Chris Pine because he almost died to secure the family ranch for his kids, right? And lost his brother in a shootout with the police in Western Texas. So I'm completely on his side. In hell or high water, the movie is what you... You know, if you feel like that's necessary to add, sure.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Okay, okay. You know, I'm not going to tell you to believe anything other than what you want to believe. I'm pretty sure I had seen almost all of this, but I never would have guessed this was all the same movie. I would have thought this is like seven movies that are none of my business. Yep. Yep. Nope. It's just all one movie. That's none of my business. It's just all one movie that I don't think most of us will go see. That's impressive. It's, it's typically bad when, when the, the publication of your movie has more plot than the movie?
Starting point is 00:35:30 Like the making of, okay, then you do a documentary on it like with Apocalypse now, but like the PR campaign shouldn't generate this much content. Well, this is why I love the Michael Man, Miami Vice movie. Because that, it's not the same level as this, but like, man, everybody who talks about that movie now is like, that was a dark time for all of us. When Jamie Fox left the set for three months or something
Starting point is 00:35:58 And they rewrote the ending to the film They had to change the entire third act Because Jamie Fox was like, I'm not going back It's dangerous And it kind of was That's the thing If you read why Jamie Fox left that movie There were legitimate safety concerns
Starting point is 00:36:16 Like kidnappings Mugings in foreign cities And of course Colin Farrell is just like Huh To give you an idea of working well. Colin Farrell doesn't remember filming. Are the kidnappers hot? Colin Farrell doesn't remember filming big chunks of this, right?
Starting point is 00:36:34 I don't think so. No, he doesn't. He went to rehab right after. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would like to say this. We're all friends here.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Colin Farrell made the only celebrity sex tape worth watching. I would like to give a hero. I would like to shout. I would like to give shouts to Michael Mann for being born in Chicago. going to Wisconsin and the London Film School for school. And then almost entirely thereafter, he's like, every film I do is set in L.A., Miami, like, more places only.
Starting point is 00:37:08 I'm not doing any cold movies. Fuck you. The thing sucked because it's cold. That's right. Would you be interested in doing this movie we have about Stalin Greta? No, Santa Claus. No. I will give you here.
Starting point is 00:37:24 We're going to do Hot Stalingrad. The best movie is Weekend at Birdies, but it needs more shootouts. Staldingrad. He's not wrong about that. We're going to do the sexy battle of the bulge. Hey, Wisconsin native.
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Starting point is 00:38:48 See Store for details. So the only downside of spending the entire second half and all of today leading up to the recording of this show, looking up drama from the Venice Film Festival and following the stylists of everyone involved on Instagram, is that I only have the vaguest concept of what is happening in AEW. And I am wondering if Jason and Spencer can get us caught up on that, because all I am aware of at the moment is that something has happened. Can I ask, can I ask a somewhat leading question? Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Is the story you're about to tell, have anything to do with, is it Tony Con or Tony Conn's son, who is very, very mad? Yes, the, the Jaguars family involved. Oh, okay, I didn't know that. So we have, we have multiple football connections. The first being that A.E.W. does not exist without Shod Khan, who is the father of Tony Con. Blake Bordalls, the father of all elite wrestling. All three of those sound like wrestle names. It doesn't exist without the con bumper monopoly, I believe it is.
Starting point is 00:39:59 It's some car thing, yes. It's some car part that every one of them is made by the owner of the Jaguars, and that's why he owns the Jaguars, and that's why there are two wrestling companies on national TV. So naturally, he heard there was another business that involved bumps and went right into it. so um cm punk do you all know who that is yes the straight-eyed wrestler from chicago who looks the m-ma failure the uh the hottest dad and recorded the hot oh and two m-ma guy who looks more and more like Aaron Rogers by the day every man I thought we liked him though oh well sometimes we like
Starting point is 00:40:40 Aaron Rogers sometimes we don't okay and I think they're for very similar reasons right extremely talented, super exciting. You listen every time they talk for better or for worse. And gosh, they seem to burn a lot of bridges. Yeah, the kind of people who have been given all of the talent in the world and none of the negotiating points. If you're creating the Aaron Rogers slash CM Punk archetype at home in your personal D&D game of life. Sure, we all are. Charisma max.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Negotiating skills, zero. No points a lot. I feel like Baldwin brothers in some ways. They really might be. I think the story has to begin about 10 years ago for two reasons. This is wrestling brother, long-term booking. Two reasons. One is, Cium Bunk had sort of a sidekick underling guy coming up in the Indies named Colt Cabana.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Who has a wrestling podcast. He has one of the first big wrestling podcasts. He's pretty full cast in a lot of ways. He just did his own thing. and he made his own career out of, he didn't work for WWE. He was never a big guy as an actual wrestler. He just sort of did his own merch
Starting point is 00:41:54 and taught a lot of other indie wrestlers how to do it. He's like actually super influential, even though most people don't know who he is. They had a falling out that the public has only ever gotten punk side of the story and the public has gotten a fuckload of punk's side of the story.
Starting point is 00:42:07 He has bitched about this guy for a full decade now. It's some financial thing. It's some more money thing. Like asking to, was allegedly supporting him and no one knows until until a couple days ago we found it a bit more Holly um quick question when you say he has bitched about it for more than a decade is this a within wrestling context or is this like a outside of wrestling to the media context or both
Starting point is 00:42:31 the former until it became the later um he's done it on he's done it on like uh out of character podcasts and stuff like that um and for a while it you know it was sort of like wow he must have a legit gripe no one would air out a former friend like this sure okay all right uh and meanwhile a professional wrestler with a vocal beef that doesn't make sense no and you don't know whether it's real or not so around around sort of the same time he was becoming punk was becoming the biggest deal in wwee feuding with sina um there was you know he was angling for a wrestlingia main event spot that's like his lifelong dream um he was the champ for a while he had one of the biggest moments when he took the title belt out into the crowd at Chicago, a Chicago PPV, and quote fingers left.
Starting point is 00:43:20 He had the most famous wrestling promo, probably of the millennium, the pipe bomb promo when he sat down crisscross at the top of the ramp and just aired out Vince McMahon. Yeah. Yeah, he had permission to do it because Vince McMahon likes money and attention, but he aired the show the fuck out. Yeah, so maybe this may be a theme here, which is the shoot that is a work, the work that is a the lie between that we do not know okay that was that was my okay that was my confusion yeah with punk at all times he's saying exactly what the fuck he means and he's doing it quote fingers in character which has become more and more fashionable for a lot of wrestlers um and like other and during his time
Starting point is 00:44:00 in w w w e other wrestlers do the same triple h who is now in charge of w e told punk like straight up you are you present yourself as the voice of the voiceless you think you're the hero of everyone you're the lone truth teller you're exactly like me you're a scumbag who climbs over anyone to get ahead game recognized game right um punk leaves w wb e very furious he had some extremely legit gripes some injury stuff um there was like very personal beef with vinci man like it got shitty and bad and like he was he was right to leave and he was right to talk of shit at the same time he's talking shit about like his former friend colcabana so he's away for years and years and years um AEW starts up uh and it's like wrestler operated right like the um it's it's not
Starting point is 00:44:42 It's a co-op. The Jaguar, kind of. The Jaguars guy is pumping in the money, but you have Kenny Omega, who's, like, one of the greatest wrestlers ever coming home from Japan to help start this thing. The Young Bucks, one of the biggest, like, indie tag team coming home. Cody Rhodes, son of our guy, Dusty Rhodes, leaving WWE and bouncing around the Indies and helping start this thing. So, like, there's a lot of, and Hangman Page is the other very important.
Starting point is 00:45:05 And when you say wrestler operated, you mean, like, the creative decision-making. For a long time. The plan was. The plan was the Bucks run the tag team division while also being the biggest star tag team, which could be awkward, but they're the biggest star tag. Because my, I'm not a huge wrestling person, but I feel like the biggest complaint people have had for WWE
Starting point is 00:45:25 for the last, I don't know, 15 years is like Vince controls all the writing and all of it sucks, like everyone hates all the storylines. Oh, yes, yes, yes, except there's one, maybe it's raw or something else where it's like, he doesn't control that. That's what everybody likes. No, no. It was NXT, which is relevant here because that was the one. Wednesday night show. It was
Starting point is 00:45:42 WWE's number three show, is their minor league show. And he, like, didn't fuck with that. He left it alone. It was Triple H's gig, and everyone was like, shh, don't tell Vince, the show is awesome. And, like, a lot of the stars right now are, like, Becky Lynch is the biggest women's star. Sasha Banks, they're Triple H's trying to get her back. Like, the biggest stars in women's wrestling came from
Starting point is 00:46:00 NXT. Came up through there. NXT, like, established women's wrestling is a thing, like, people who were finally allowed to love, right? Like, it showed how awesome it had always been, and just let it be itself. So Wednesday night is also when AEW decided to put its first its TV show, right? It's one big show. So its big show is going up against WW's little-a-show.
Starting point is 00:46:21 And to the deep embarrassment of Vince McMahon, it starts beating WW's minor league show. Triple H gets in trouble for this, gets more or less fired. How dare you? He gets rid of all the NXT wrestlers who aren't megastars. Like Vince just burns everything down. He's an insane person. And it's great for the world.
Starting point is 00:46:40 fewer responsibilities like it's just legit it's not just good for wrestling reasons but it is it it is good for the world when fewer people have to listen to that guy that is um for every imaginable reason um so ae w is gaining popularity and it looks like the stable place to work right like before vince leaves um wrestlers jumping ship constantly like big stars daniel brian um like huge like legit stars and underappreciated guys like caesaro are jumping from w w to uh to aew um and then they pull somewhere in here they pull their biggest coup of all they bring seampunk out of retirement after for seven years crowds have been chanting for this guy crowds have voiced their displeasure with literally every wrestling thing by just chanting seampunk's name he shows up everyone probably saw it it was
Starting point is 00:47:23 this it was the biggest moment in a w history they like their rating was enormous that night um it was perfect and he's like beaming and happy which i had never seen in my life never seen that dude thrilled to be there and he's putting over everyone he's putting over their women's putting over a wrestling term for in speech praising making sound cool um like and he's being like perfect co-worker and like he's going to mentor he's going to put over all the young guys all this everything's great and wonderful so about that little hints of beef start trickling out right like there's a few guys who want more money and there's like gripes about this and that you know whatever it's it's a it's show business and they're all making a lot of money and moving a lot
Starting point is 00:48:02 a merch and whatever. One of Punk's most recent views was with Hangman Page, who was A.E.W.'s like main character for like a year. The anxious millennial cowboy who... Is this the one you say was my high school boyfriend? Yes. Well, no, that's several of them. Shit, dude.
Starting point is 00:48:21 That's Darby Allen. That is Darby Allen, right? The guy who's like, I'll kick your ass on a skateboard. Who will jump off of anything? Yes. Okay, yeah. We all went to high school with several wrestlers. one who vaguely looks like Grant Risby?
Starting point is 00:48:34 Orange Cash. Oh, that, yes. Thank you for taking less than a quarter of a second to answer for them. The guy who wrestles with his hands in his jeans. Yes, that one. Yeah. Not like that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:48 Yeah. But, uh, yeah, yeah. Hangman Page is like he's, he's, he's this beloved guy. He'll, he'll throw back a beer, but not in a stone cold kind of way, very, like, crowd friendly. And he's, like, encouraging and empathetic. And he's like, he's kind of the nice guy among these skunk. bag friends like the young bugs are these assholes but yeah jason he went through a uh just to let everyone
Starting point is 00:49:07 know went through one of my favorite wrestling story arcs uh in recent history which was an entire arc that centered on his lack of self-esteem and on wrestlers coming together and being very supportive and loving it was a rare moment of deeply non-toxic masculinity where he finally did overcome and become a champion it was both funny in the sense that it was very over the top but at the same time kind of heartrending because it was so genuine. It was awesome. And you said a rare moment of non-toxic masculinity. Well, rare indeed. Uh-huh. Because, so Hangman and punk are feuding. It makes total sense, two of the biggest names.
Starting point is 00:49:47 And Hangman cuts a promo on punk where he says, you know, you, blah, blah, blah, you are not the guy you say you are. You say a lot about workers' rights, but then you do what you've been doing around here. No one really knows what it means. It's kind of a throwaway line. And both these guys are, like, Big on, like, Hangman tweeted Happy Labor Day the other day. Hangman's talk shit about Jeff Bezos. Like, Hangman is legit, borderline, socialist, very online, leftist kind of guy. And Punk is very old school punk kind of guy, right? So, like, calling out your cred on this, that's big, right?
Starting point is 00:50:18 And Punk didn't say anything at the time, right? They had their match. Punk has the belt, blah, blah, blah. He comes out months later, punk does, when Hangman isn't even there at the building. and he cuts a apparently unplanned promo against hangman who is not in the building he says if you want to come down here and apologize for what you said in public do it right now hangman's music doesn't hit hangman looks like a huge coward he's a good guy he's supposed to come down and defend himself he didn't because he couldn't because it was totally unfair
Starting point is 00:50:48 cheap shot by punk to do that yeah and everyone's like why the fuck is he so mad this is like waiting to somebody's like hey i'm going to the beach won't have cell service then two hours later being like, meet me in Temecula, coward. Maybe five minutes, you bitch. Yeah. This is, by the way, when Jason and I discuss wrestlers and say that, like, a guy does something really crappy and the announcers are like, what cunning! What a genius wrestler!
Starting point is 00:51:12 This is definitely an example of that. So, like, everyone's like, why is punk so randomly mad at his duty beat months ago, right? And it sort of trickles out that, like, he's mad about that specific line. Well, why? And then the rumor continues trickling that that. guy Colt Cabana, that comedy wrestler that he had beef with a decade ago. That guy was a very, very minor, minor bottom rung underling at AEW. When punk came in, Cabana just so happened to get kicked down to Ring of Honor, essentially AEW's minor league, no longer on AEW TV. So Cabana's pretty
Starting point is 00:51:44 beloved backstage. Guys like Hangman apparently are like leaping to his defense against this superstar newcomer who's coming in and knocking everything over and talking shit. And it starts to be, you know, people start to remember, like, God, punk was really an asshole, like, 10 years ago in WWE, and everybody was so happy he was gone, and he, like, lost all his friends, and, like, he seems really nice now, but I don't know, maybe he's not. If even fucking Hangman Page is mad at you, maybe you're a legit asshole. And so at the most recent paperview Sunday night during LSU, FSU, just to mention this is happening in football timeline. Just oriented in time, yes. Probably, it's probably, uh, it's probably, uh,
Starting point is 00:52:25 26 hours before Harry Stiles spent on Chris Pine. Pump beats John Moxley, who's kind of the straight shooting stone cold type of AEW for the title, just wins the title back outright. And then in the presser afterward, he sits down next to Tony Kahn, son of the Jaguars owner, the boss of the company who looks like four years old next to seeing a punk.
Starting point is 00:52:48 He does look four years old. Punk sits down, starts popping over sodas, not beers. He's straight-edged sodas. And the first guy wants to talk about, about, I think about a villain character who had returned after the match or whatever, just like storyline stuff. And punk cuts them off,
Starting point is 00:53:03 points out that the guy is a friend of Colt Cabana, this comedy wrestler from 10 years ago, and says, you need to, if you're a real journalist, you would have divulged that. And then spends most of 20 minutes talking shit about Colt Cabana's finances, calling him out for like sharing a bank account with his mother, as if there's anything wrong with that.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Oof. Calling out hangman by name, accusing all the other big bosses of airing him out to the media, which might be true. They might have been talking shit about punk to the media because they're jealous of him or whatever. And like, yeah, that's scumbag shit. If you're kind of the co-boss of a company,
Starting point is 00:53:36 punk has a point there. But he's also being a gigantic asshole about it because he's seeing punk. Right or wrong, he will be an asshole about it. And he just goes on and on and on and on. It's 22 minutes of him, Aaron Grypes, that the public either doesn't know about or is finding about right then and there
Starting point is 00:53:56 or had thought he forgot about it. Oh, my God. Choice cuts include telling everyone that there were three EVPs at the company. I believe executive vice producers is that at the company. That's Bucks, Omega, and Page. Right, right. The three guys who are working as EVPs at the company who he said, and I quote,
Starting point is 00:54:18 could not manage a target. Now, I want to say that this is an asshole. That's hard. We stand with target managers, y'all. If you've been to a crummy target, you know the ones that have it on lockdown are doing a good fucking job. And this is Siam Punk, man of the fucking people running down target managers. Exactly. Like, that to me is the shittiest part of it that you would assume that running a target was something that did not require a significant amount of skill.
Starting point is 00:54:44 I could run a target. No, I could. No, I'm out. So he's sitting there next to Tony Kahn, who, again, I want to stress, is. wildly overwhelmed by he's sitting by arguably the greatest talker in pro wrestling history this i'm going to call him a kid he's his boss he's supposed to get him to shut the fuck up he has no chance of doing this every time he utters anything punk throws up a hand and the guy like clams up sweating shuddering eyes flashing around somebody do something
Starting point is 00:55:18 throws up a hand like in his face uh no just like just to the side dismissively like yeah yeah There's literally a moment where punk is rambling about how everyone should listen to him, and he said, I'm trying to run a business here. He's not in charge. The guy next to him is in charge, and the wrestlers he's mad at are also in charge. Punk is just some guy who showed up claiming he's running the company, and the guy actually running the company is about to cry. So then, during this, security guard goes running past.
Starting point is 00:55:47 No one thinks anything of it. It's Harry Seals. He's in the building. might be going to see Harry Stiles. I'm so glad we're doing this. There's no way I could have held both these events in my head at one time. That security guard is probably doing
Starting point is 00:56:01 a whole lot of running around because it emerged this morning, two days later, that Punk and his trainer guy named Ace Steel, who had just emerged as an on-TV character, that the Young Bucks and Kenny Omega
Starting point is 00:56:14 had gone into Punk's dressing room. An altercation started. There were fists thrown. There was a real-life folding chair shot. Yes! Yes! Yeah!
Starting point is 00:56:26 No! A folding chair for real. It happens. They're dangerous. Wrestling has been trying to warn you for decades. Oh my God. I think it was one of the young bucks
Starting point is 00:56:34 who got chaired. There were reports that A. Steele, this this detail is very important. A. Steele, this guy who just got landed an incredible gig. He's an on TV character
Starting point is 00:56:46 with AEW. A week ago. What is he doing one week in, according to reports? he bit during this fight bit Kenny fucking Omega no
Starting point is 00:57:00 one of the world's biggest wrestling stars the single guy most arguably actually in charge of this company like universally beloved five star matches he's got zillions of them quiet quitting is out
Starting point is 00:57:16 the new trend is unexpected biting bitten bitten and this is punk's like only punk has like four friends in this company and this is one of them who should be like mega turbo fired if this is true so yes Ryan go ahead what I was good this is a complete digression I'll make it quick it occurred to me at the end of the LSU Florida State game that after neutral site games we should have set up right outside one of the exits a sort of corned off area that has like
Starting point is 00:57:47 stage glass and breakway furniture and we should corral the losing fans into there and let them know like hey this is all their cameras on this is all televised but go fucking ham like hit each other with these these stage bottles just go go nuts i think that would be a really good way there is like no it should be and people will see what you perform here also someone's bringing a real bottle in you know that's going to oh it's l as you also it's a bouncy castle it's a big bouncy castle like y'all were saying about the movie drama like the marvelization ryan where like movie PR things these days are so crypted and safe and corporate. Well, like the
Starting point is 00:58:23 knock against WWE for about 20 years after the time, WCW, which was a fucking mad house in the 90s, after WCW went away, WWE was one deeply strange person's extremely buttoned down in very strange ways, vision.
Starting point is 00:58:40 No one talked out a turn, unless they're seeing punk and then they disappear. Right? Like, everyone ran every single syllable past Vince McMahon. No matter how stupid those syllables were once he translated them through his 80-year-old sense of humor. It was top-down authoritarianism. But at a time like this, you can see.
Starting point is 00:59:01 There's a use for a little bit of that. Because, like, this shit would have never flown in WW. If Triple H is in charge, he would have picked up CM Punk and thrown him for this shit. We're talking about a Greg Sankey versus Mike Slive situation here. Yes, exactly. Emotionally. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Yeah. Exactly. Like, so this is your, um, your old school movie PR run where like, I'm pretty sure all of this hate is real. So what is the context in which I think it's punk goes on this rant about like, I'm old and my back hurts and I got kidding. What is that? Yeah. I work with, I work with, so he's out of shape. Like, I mean, he's in good shape.
Starting point is 00:59:44 He looks good. He can, you know, he can do the job or whatever. But compared to wrestlers, he is out of shape. If he were to try to wrestle. Daniel Bryan, you'd be crying in five minutes. He's like, what, 45 or something, probably? Yeah, and he's not fortified by cigarettes or anything, right? Like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Cigarettes and steroids have missed him, so he has to actually experience the pain. And he's had a ton of injuries to be fair. Yes. But, like, he sort of likes to play up how hard he's working and all that. And yeah, by children, he's griping about like, you know, a 25-year-old wrestler, like MJF. He's not talking about, like, I am a father. Not his actual kids. He likes his kids, fine.
Starting point is 01:00:19 As far as we know, his actual family is great. Like his wife is a wrestler, she's very funny. She's cool, but, like, yeah, he's calling all of his co-workers' children. That's very different than what I thought he was saying. Oh, gotcha. Okay. Yes, he does not literally employ his kids. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:33 So, yeah, that's Rasselin, where WWE under a sophisticated, corporate, benevolent father figure, Triple H is the safe, boring place to work. and AEW, the cool, fun meme company is a fucking nightmare. Everything flipped in one month. It's awesome. It's awesome. And like, I saw a tweet, I wish I could remember who posted it,
Starting point is 01:01:00 was like, folks, if you got into AEW because you're like, I like it when pro wrestlers love each other, sorry, but you have now entered professional wrestling where everyone hates each other and you have no idea what's real and it's all Machiavellian and they're going to talk about it in public on the Mike in the ring on TV and try to make money off of it. This is the good shit. So how can we solve both of these problems by crossing?
Starting point is 01:01:26 I think the obvious answer from... Harry Styles and CM Punk. You two work. You two just fight each other. Harry Style, I think it's Harry Styles and CM Punk tag team match against Chris Pine and Hangman Page. Yes. Those are the corollaries here.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Yes. That's how we settled that out. And Florence Pue is your Jade Cargill. She shows up and everyone's like, I don't give a fuck what the men are arguing. about this lady should be in charge. I'm going to drop one more thing in the chat for visuals. Here is Florence Pugh walking into the press conference in Venice after Olivia Wilde said Florence wasn't going to be there because of scheduling conflicts.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Here is how she made her entrance. Have you seen a less bothered human being in your life? This account comes to us from Florence Pugh Media. I probably follow this account. It's a fan account, but look at this. Could you be less bothered if you took a pill to achieve it? This is a pro wrestling entrance. Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:02:27 I'm glad we came back around to this because I was thinking the whole time, we have entrances, we have bits, we have clicks and alliances. Nobody knows what's real. Nobody is really sure what's a shooter or what's to work. Nick Kroll is there for some reason. Now there's a guy WCW would have put the belt on, Nick Kroll for the LOLs. Yeah. Yeah, because David Arquette, I believe, at one point, held the WCW crown in case it wasn't chaotic enough. AEW hasn't fallen to that level yet.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Oh, I forgot about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He held the title. AEW or WCW gave their Booker the title belt. Yeah. The guy in charge of deciding who gets the title belt. That's how bad. That's how far AEW can fall.
Starting point is 01:03:08 If the son of the Jaguar's owner gets the title belt, you know we have entered WCW zone. Conference reallignment looks relatively boring. All of this. And also, by the time this episode drops, Leah Michelle will have made her debut and Funny Girl. So I hope everybody, like, took their vitamins over the weekend.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Replacing Beanie Feldstein, who wasn't book smart. Speaking of people who go off script. And guys, thank you, thank you for filling us in on that because I could not possibly have absorbed that much information simultaneously. And I had to take it in concurrently.
Starting point is 01:03:45 so for for those of you who only lived through one or the other or neither of these because you were out having a human life i i hope that we have that we have brought you some measure of closure today your alternative is watching georgia tec was the closet yeah yeah all of us happened during a four-day week debut weekend of college football i would so i would like to say one thing in praise of georgia tech okay they didn't give up many points for a while i will praise their deal i yeah jeff call jeff Collins's time management was highly questionable this game. Highly questionable. Did you have the sound on when the announcers were going to halftime? Yes. Have you ever heard
Starting point is 01:04:25 a pair of booth personnel try harder not to shit talk somebody? But they were stunned. Yes. Yes. So the time management in this game was suspect. He's supposed to be smart. Here's the thing. Georgia Tech did the
Starting point is 01:04:41 smart thing. And when you lose that badly, nobody's like, if only we had three timeouts we wouldn't have lost I don't even think they lost that badly I think it could have been a lot worse now I think it could have been a lot worse because Clemson has not fixed their O line and DJ had
Starting point is 01:04:57 a new center and who appeared to be going through some shit and y'all I don't think we have quite I have not seen anywhere in the media anyone pointing to what I think is certainly the most full castian if not
Starting point is 01:05:12 maybe the most important factor in the departure but is this what happens when you lose Robbie Caldwell off your staff? Robbie Caldwell retired, and Clemson got pushed right. Clemson got mauled for portions of this game by Georgia Tech's defensive front. Don't you think that's interesting? Hmm. Like the final score looks bad for Tech, but I thought the first half in particular, they looked downright good by their standards. They were perky. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Here's the bad news, I think. Watching this game, I was like, oh, this looks like a really good. program in year two of a new coach and it ain't year two it has that it has that vibe where you're like okay they're starting to figure some shit out it's his first game you know once he gets his guys in there i love that yeah there's that and then there's uh do we give any sort of that grace period to brian kelly fuck no no he should have had this shit turned around by now so i i i know how holly feels about this and i know how godfrey feels about this and i will ask Spencer and Jason, the same question.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Would LSU have been better off from a feelings perspective, just losing this game by 14? Oh, we already had this conversation. Yeah, I know where you and Godfrey stand on this. I think they would have been better off losing it by 14. I think you'd always rather get your ass kick than lose by one. I think if the rest of the schedule is set up that you're going to end up like 10 and 2 or whatever, then like, okay.
Starting point is 01:06:45 you want it close you can build off this right we will feel good later on yeah i think where this really going to hurt is when you're uh you're five and six and you want that music city bowl bid but unfortunately you didn't get those last two yards against fashu so i agree with spencer but for a different reason and it's because of the dude that we all know brian kelly is you know it's your first game it's been a weird couple of years for every team in the country you're nobody's going to remember week one by week 11 but this way not only did he lose i think it's actually worse for i don't mean worse it's certainly better for us um kelly didn't just lose he was made to look silly yeah and there is a particular kind of man and most of these men
Starting point is 01:07:37 are football coaches um or most football coaches are this type of person for whom that is so much worse. Yeah, this wasn't a situation where his players were simply not fast or strong enough. This was situations where the team made a lot, God, a lot of mistakes. And he cannot blame anyone for that. I know the impulse for him. He will. Oh, he went into the presser and was like, I have to coach better and I about drop my teeth. Yeah. He knows he's supposed to say that now. He has, yes, he has very noticeably gotten tired of being called out for how like the, the record of him blaming players. He is very aggressively tried to overcorrect.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Which sucks because this was a great situation in which he could have blamed his players at the end. It's got to kill him. It's got to hurt. The most galling thing is like if you lose on a blocked kick, there are a few different ways you can do that. Like the most powerful memory I have of this is Florida blocking a South Carolina kick and that's the 2006 season I want to say.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Jarvis Moss. 2006 Jarvis Moss, yeah. Sparger coming back and almost beating us with Blake fucking Mitchell. And this is a, that, that is the kind of block where you see a defender on special teams just like leap in a, in the perfect synchronicity of ups and timing where you're just like, you know what? Yeah. That just sucks. Like sometimes that happens. And, and like, it doesn't usually happen that way.
Starting point is 01:09:03 But the other version of this is what happened in this game when it's like, oh, and, and Rich, I know Richard's written about it. I know Alex has talked about it where it's like, oh this you should have seen this coming. They were doing this to you already. It's not like lucky you spun double zero on
Starting point is 01:09:24 the roulette wheel. It's like, oh man. So LSU is a constant special teams blunders in this game. Brian Kelly's handpick self-appointed promoted number two is his special teams coach. Brian Pollyon. Hey, why does that name sound familiar? Well, that's
Starting point is 01:09:40 the son of Bill Pollyan. I can't believe this didn't work out. Yeah. Former, and he's also the former head coach in Nevada and a former special teams coach at Notre Dame, Brian Pollyan's whole thing, by the way, is, you know, I've got this NFL pedigree. I'm having attention to detail. I'm going to be able to connect you with people in the league. Pedigree dogs are dumber is the thing that I think we forget. He's basically saying I'm UGA. Yeah. I'm looking. Looking at now at the win projections on Massey for the rest of LSU's schedule. The number of games, 60% win probability for LSU or less, call them coin flip games. Mississippi State, Auburn, Tennessee, Florida, Ole Miss, Bama, Arkansas, Texas, A&M.
Starting point is 01:10:28 You could lose eight games in addition to the one you have lost. I really think I might go to the Auburn game. I kind of want to. I don't feel good about that choice. I think I really might go to that. It's like staring at the corn nuts and the gas station, and you're like, hmm. And you know. Sharing size.
Starting point is 01:10:46 You know as you pick it up that you're holding a bag of regret, but you're like, the smell. It's not good, but it is enticing. It's not good, but I want it. How did you guys know what I ate at Quick Trip this morning? At like 545. You have that vibe. You have that vibe. Just a cornut kind of vibe.
Starting point is 01:11:05 You do have a cornut vibe. Lest we forget, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to. lose side of it because it was several days ago at this point that wasn't even the dumbest ending this weekend you don't think so i would put app state above it i i i i disagree only because of like how we like the fact that it's a 99 yard drive after back to back fumbles where florida like florida state blew so many chances to win this to just i mean they're they're both bad they're both bad something about the symmetry of App States just
Starting point is 01:11:41 like puts a knife in my gut. The weird circumstance where Florida State was like, review that. That was like, okay, cool. Time out. Hold on. That was some Butch Jones shit. We're moving a little fast here.
Starting point is 01:11:58 I need a breather. In this game that would have been like the weirdest thing of an entire weekend. There was the LSU's third down attempt to run in a touchdown. Came up just short. and like as their fourth down attempt was going into the end zone the refs said hang on we're going to review the review we don't give a shit about the review you just walk just walk into the end zone yeah the rare moment the rare moment of agreeing with brian kelly where you go yeah that's like he's looking at the ref going that's fucked up you're like man listen broken clock it is right twice that was a jam-packed week one though in terms of just sheer stuff yeah it was a lot of stuff Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:39 It was a ridiculous amount of stuff. I also have to say, we did, you know, we did the show that would be thinking out loud on the SEC Network every Monday at 7.m. Because I am a blatant SEC honk and chill. We had to do 14 games. Like normally, somebody plays somebody else from the conference. So you can take one off the board. You're like, no, we have to note all of these games and figure out whether any of them mean anything. You don't have to.
Starting point is 01:13:07 There were several you didn't have to. Might not have said a whole lot about Mississippi State, Memphis. Although, kudos to Mississippi State for winning game one. Yeah, that was a revenge game, too. Yeah, that is a revenge game, and Memphis is coming for your head. So congratulations to them, the baffling Mike Leach loss will have to wait until, I don't know, week two, week three. What's their, open their schedule, let's see. Yeah, hold on.
Starting point is 01:13:32 Let's pick it out. Let's pick the baffling Mike Leach loss. While you do that, I am looking at Bill C's new SB Play. less ratings, where Bama is now so far ahead of the world, they would be favored over number four Michigan by 11 and a half points. Number four Michigan. This is, you've found the, you've found Mississippi's game this week, I assume, is what the oh no was.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Oh, no. This is somehow more, sorry, I was talking to, I meant Jason, this is somehow more comforting than his preseason, which had both Ole Miss and Tennessee in the top 10, and he couldn't figure out how to get them out. The math must be wrong. That was upsetting. Only 15 and a half over Tennessee. So I didn't have to look more than more than a week ahead.
Starting point is 01:14:15 Oh, no. Because we have noted this on the program before, but who agreed to play a Pact 12 road game against a program who showed a surprising amount of fight and pulse in a victory over Diego State just this week and week one? That's right. Mississippi State plays Arizona in Tucson. Oh, Jesus. I forgot about that.
Starting point is 01:14:35 They played them in Tucson. What's the time of that game? That's correct. It kicks off at 11 p.m. Eastern. Oh. I will say, I think that's easier for 18 to 22 year olds than the one that feels like you're at 8 a.m. It's the staff we're going to have to worry about. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Mississippi State has a terrible, has like one of the most terrible stretches, I think, possible later in the year, too, where they play A&M, Arkansas, Kentucky. Kentucky, Alabama, Auburn, Georgia. That just sucks. Yuck. Yeah. Yeah. So, in other words, we could pick any of these. Oh, and by the way, just in case the cards aren't wild enough, their first conference game is against LSU!
Starting point is 01:15:22 Woo! On the 17th! That sounds fun for everyone. That sounds fun for everyone. Is there anything else you want to take over from week one before we put it to bed? I'm exhausted, but in a good way. The 40th week, I absolutely adore this weekend. I feel like this was the best week one in terms of giggles that we've had in a minute.
Starting point is 01:15:49 Or maybe it just, I mean, it would, hard to be have a worse, hard to be have a worse kickoff in the past two seasons, but this was festive. Is that it? No, that's a stupid ending. No, hey, that's good. Server, you hear this audio? Just put something here. Yeah, you can just put something right here if you want to. Is there anything else?
Starting point is 01:16:14 Where do you think server went? He said, oh, he had said he had to leave during this time. Oh, okay. He said he was leaving us a lot of pot. Okay. We should just talk until he gets back. Come back, server. He was watching cycling super hard.
Starting point is 01:16:31 Super hard. Relatable. Yeah, that man is. that man is passionate about cycling in the way that I really only assume Belgians could be. Have you guys seen how Sark is already underselling the Bama game?
Starting point is 01:16:45 No. He said something to the effect of like, you know, our goal this season is to play in the conference championship on December, whatever, whatever. This really doesn't affect that. Goals for the season. It does not include beating professional football team.
Starting point is 01:17:07 I think it's good to get out in front of like, yeah, man, losing doesn't matter here. Eat an army. Pokemon Awards. Oh, or was it where he did say my, he did say, hey, you know, culture can sometimes beat a superior team. Yeah, that's going to. And I was like, if you're talking about bacterial infections, yes. You're talking about Auburn? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:30 Also, they have the culture. Yes. You're making the case that Alabama can beat the Jets. Oh, wait. I just have to put this out into the universe, speaking of the Jets. Oh, God. Wow, I'm sorry. Jets and Bennett.
Starting point is 01:17:51 That's it. Yes. Yes. Hashtag it, Ryan. Just post it with that hashtag right now. Oh, it's there. Oh, you did it. All caps, Jets.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Oh, you did it. You crazy son, much. Oh, my God. You crazy. Son of a bitch, you did it. I don't know. I think a guy looks pretty gutsy. I'm thinking about renewing my season tickets.
Starting point is 01:18:14 You can't teach that kind of poise. Stetson Bennett, I think, might be savvy enough at this point that if he got drafted by the Jets, he'd just be like, no, I'm going to go get my NBA. Fuck this. I've been in Athens a long time, and I think I will keep it that way. And if I'm going to run my empire of regional car dealerships, I have to start honing my managerial acumen now.

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