Shutdown Fullcast - Shutdown Fullcast 3.29.0
Episode Date: November 5, 2015The preview edition of the Fullcast may have gotten mad at EXTREMELY SERIOUS Iowa fans? And might have told them to eat an extremely unclean part of the Fullcast's body? That may have happened, in add...ition to these other topics of great interest for the upcoming weekend of college football. --Why you should go out and get into a fight with a random stranger over the first set of college football playoff rankings. --Reader questionl, including Jason absolutely nailing the coach who currently looks (and acts) most like their team's mascot. --A look ate the week ahead, including all of us realizing that after Florida State comes to town Clemson gets an easy toboggan ride into the ACC Conference Championship game where they will definitely have to play "another football team." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to the shutdown fullcast.
We are going to, in this preview episode, look ahead to the week that will be.
I would like to immediately dive into something we should be completely calm about,
sang foie, even cool-blooded, even-handed.
That would be the college football playoff rankings, which are just, they're just rankings.
They're not any.
They're just, don't kill it.
anyone over these numbers next to names put them out of your mind listen to the sound of my voice
focus on sensual pleasure man fuck all there's iwas nine that's too low no no don't listen to jason
everything's fine i want to i want to listen to jason he's so right you're on an ocean where
stanford is number one number five and unranked no no bama's four no bama's best win is
Wisconsin, same as Iowa.
Don't listen to them.
These rankings mean nothing.
Soon your body will turn to dirt and ash.
You hush up.
Meditation tape.
The robots will come for you.
In your sleep.
The Florida's ranking is double Bamas and they've done the exact
same thing. The last of us is
an optimistic look at the world's
ending. Why is Ohio State
there? Why are they even there?
They struggle against a Mac team. People say, oh,
Arkansas did the same thing, but Arkansas
sucks. Follow the ways.
Arkansas is a quality loss to Toledo because
Toledo lost last night and they're not out of the rankings
yet. Follow the waves. The Tulane waves.
They're calm and you don't even know that they're
there. Shh. Georgia Tech beat
Tulane. Sleep now. And then
beat Florida State.
Sleep. Sleep on Georgia Tech.
Man, Ryan is the worst
onboard computer ever.
You are the most
Hal. Hal has nothing on
a spaceship captained by
Ryan Nanny as
the psychotic yet
oddly calm computer.
Uh, by the way, joining us, just to introduce, uh, for this, that was, yeah, that was Ryan Nanny.
Hello. Hello, Spencer.
God damn it, you have to stop that. I am. I'm going to break out in a hive.
Everything's fine. How are you?
I'm going to turn, I will turn this car around, son. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Go ahead.
I'm at the dad stage of reaching back and randomly slapping people in the back seats.
Somebody deserved it. If you, if you, if you, if you didn't do it this time, you got away with something
previously.
Or you will be doing
something in the future.
All dad justice is legal.
Dad justice.
The worst CBS show.
Dad justice.
Number three in America.
That rapper acronym is
Agile, by the way.
Yeah. Which rapper would be on dad justice
because Ice-T has been on a
justice show.
L.L. Cool, Jay.
Kanye has tweeted about
in-app purchases in children's games.
Well, Master P is a famous.
dad, and I feel like he hasn't had enough TV exposure lately, and I would like to see Master
P, maybe Dad Justice is, he's like a bounty hunter for kids who left correctional camp.
Like, if your kid goes on Mori and has to go to boot camp, so they'll straighten up,
but they jump the fence, Master P's coming for him, Dad Justice.
Okay, I could see that.
I would also, it just for, if our budget's a little lower, because...
Which, if you listen to...
of this podcast, you know that it is.
Yeah, but it's a little lower.
What?
Yeah. Is Big Daddy Kane around? Can we do that?
He is, yeah.
Yeah, we can do that.
And then, if all else fails, I think we can get Rayquan to do it.
I mean, we might want to move that up because, you know.
There's some news about Rayquan.
I didn't hear anything, but.
No, did you?
I didn't hear a word.
Did I miss?
I didn't say anything.
Did I miss something?
All right.
There's a story that an FBI,
informant. It involved
murder. It involved an FBI
informant who's not me.
And yes, it involved a
long, dormant case from the
90s that I don't know anything about.
Hey, listen, it's
that, was anyone charged?
I don't know. That's the extent of my
knowledge. Statute of limitations is long, man.
It's longer than Virginia Tech's
championship list streak.
Yeah, which is
forever. I just got that
joke. Yeah. It's
So, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't, you didn't let Frank rest a week before you just pull that joke back out.
It's fine, Frank Beamer.
Everything's fine.
Why does, why does my truck have an onboard computer?
It sounds like howl.
Seriously, NASA, if you need me, I'll, I'll come in and I'll drop like eight tracks for y'all.
Okay.
So these playoffs, the playoff rankings, I would say this, they are meaningless, and people should get really angry about them because I didn't know this.
I did, uh, I did a cable television show a, uh, a little bit of, uh,
a brief spot discussing these.
And I idly mentioned that it is hilarious that Iowa was this high and undefeated.
And I checked Twitter like 30 minutes afterwards.
Oh, the harrumphing.
The gusty harrumphing and objections.
Oh, who's better than Iowa?
Okay.
Man, Iowa got some feeling.
Like, I think it's that Iowa's only practiced feeling for the last five years or so is anger.
And now that they can't direct that anger at the head coach,
or the athletic department, they just have to redirect it somewhere.
It's like when Cyclops didn't have his visor on and just like, it's just lasers, man.
All I can do is lasers.
I hope that's okay.
Can I come over to your house and burn it down?
Go Hawkeyes.
Yeah, and Iowa, yeah, they're the, they're the, it's Iowa Hive right now.
They're the hive.
It's been, Baylor has been kind of the, the irrational, angry fan base.
We're overlooking FSU, of course, just because.
Because we always do, because we hate on them.
them knolls. They're their own special circumstance, but I think I was overtaken Baylor in
immediate fan anger on the internet. Where's our respect? I don't, dude, it's not your fault.
It's not your fault. Also, let's be real. What would you do with our respect? It's worthless.
Why do you want me to say you're good? Do you know the things I think are good and that I watch
voluntarily? He doesn't even like cheese. I don't even like cheese. One of the most accepted forms.
of fat and protein and salt consumption in the world.
In the damn world.
You like corn.
You know, I love corn.
Corn's great.
You know, Iowa's about more than corn, though.
See, look, I'm saying nice things about Iowa.
You like wrestling?
I do.
I like endless aluminum sheds on relatively featureless roads.
Iowa is, listen, I have family in Iowa.
I can tell you, corn, wrestling, sheds.
Do you like my league baseball?
No, not at all.
It's terrible.
Well, sorry.
All right.
Two out of three.
Yeah.
But other than that, yeah, I hope you win the playoff.
I do.
It would be the funniest thing to me to do that with a team that statistically is like a whole standard deviation in terms of profile away from everyone else in the top 10.
But if you did it, it would confirm everything I believe about the universe.
I like the idea that it's bad, that it would be funny.
Like, no, you have to take it very seriously.
When I was hoisting the trophy, you have to have no emotional response.
at all other than I knew this would happen.
You take your hat off and you salute
Kirk Farrants, you worthless son of a bitch.
This is some kind of grim but festive
Spanish Catholic festival, right?
The festival de San Ferens
and now the procession
of the giant corn god.
Pelt it with fleas.
Seriously, go to hell.
What mile, what mile,
what, like, what, what mile, what mile,
what, what mile of my ass
would you like to eat?
Okay, just pick one, okay?
It's not a small ass.
No, you're going to have some work to do, is what I'm saying.
Damn, people.
I think these farm boys can handle it.
Okay.
Oh, my.
Anyway.
So, okay, other than Iowa's shameless disrespect, being only ranked ninth in the country,
what else sticks out to you two as things that, not that you are angry about,
but are a little weird about the
playoff rankings.
TCU being that low.
Okay. See, that's fine.
They're at eight.
Well, they ain't played nobody.
Yeah.
And they've had the close calls.
They've sort of got the combo of the Michigan State
always trying to lose
and Baylor ain't played nobody.
So being behind those two teams seems fine.
I mean, yeah, but I mean, that's like a quibble.
Like these mostly look okay for going into November
when I'm like, oh, those are pretty much
the best like you know eight to ten teams
yeah yeah
I Bama could be lower
but you know we're all kind of used to Bama
getting the free loss
I think Stanford got screwed by struggling
versus Wazoo
Stanford that's the thing Stanford and Bama
basically have the same resume right now
yeah
and Stanford Stanford has
I like that by implication
Northwestern and Ole Miss are equally
good
that's the one loss
To be fair Northwestern has not lost to
Memphis.
But that's because they're scared.
They're ducking them.
Yeah, this is a lot like if you have a group of close friends and they spend a lot of time together over, you know, say a decade, decade and a half.
And suddenly the argument about, well, I didn't date this person you dated and everyone starts comparing who they actually dated and it gets real ugly.
That's what's happening here, right?
Like, oh, you didn't date Northwestern.
Well, you dated Old Miss and you know who they dated?
They dated Memphis
In conclusions, everyone's dick
Smells Terrible
So you just have to accept a certain amount of odor
That's why Clemson's number one
That's right
Who've I dated?
Dabo, that's it
Met when we were 12
Just the way Jesus wanted
He's my interim husband
Permanently
He got bumped up after a few good months
That would be the wife thing to say, right?
Like, we've been married all this time, and he still feels like my interim coach.
I still get little heart patters when I think about him.
That, and I think the other weird thing here is that Ohio State and Alabama are like so rock solid in Notre Dame are so rock solid at 3, 4, 5 when Alabama and Notre Dame both have losses.
And I know these are going to knock out, right?
We have a lot of teams here who are going to play each other and who we can comfortably slide into a kind of 1A second tier, right?
Right. LSU and Alabama this weekend will play each other.
That problem will solve itself, right?
Michigan State and Ohio State still need to play.
That problem will solve itself.
Iowa.
Iowa's going to win.
Iowa's going undefeated.
Iowa will play Ohio State or Michigan State.
And then if we want to call that a problem, it'll also solve itself.
Then we'll be talking about how Iowa is the best one-lost team in the nation.
Damn it, Iowa.
I so want this to happen.
All moves end with Iowa winning.
This is the ultimate checkmate.
Hawk mate.
Yeah, just Kirkmate.
Just book it.
Technically, it's Stale Hawk.
Yeah, this is a stale hawk.
This is all going to happen, and there's nothing any of us can do to prevent it.
So I'm not all that bent.
I know Memphis and Houston aren't getting in.
I know Oklahoma State's not getting in because they haven't played anybody,
and if they beat Baylor and TCU, they still might be out because they'll point to the lack of a championship game.
And I know that Florida State is just laying there in the weeds at 16,
ready to beat the rest of their schedule and somehow weasel their way into a slot in the playoff.
They did put Memphis right in that, oh, maybe, position, though.
And I feel like that was just shitting them.
Yeah, it's just tantalizing.
Give them the respect of giving them the fuck Marshall seat and not ranking them until December.
You've watched that team play.
How many teams above them do you think they could beat?
This is just a nonsensical, hypothetical.
Okay, well, not Iowa.
I think that's clear.
Oh, hell no.
Oh, hell no.
I would maybe say three.
Which three?
I think they, I think, I do sincerely think they could beat Utah,
the way Utah has sort of been stumbling lately.
They have a transit of win over Bama.
Right.
So that's two.
Florida would be an interesting matchup for them, I think.
I kind of think our D.Bs give them.
Our D.Bs in the line give their offense too many problems.
Probably, but I could also see, you know, part of that is like Florida has played way over its head,
especially in terms of turnover production and turnover margin, and that probably would have to even out at some point.
Well, the big secret about Memphis is their defense is terrible.
Right, yes, yes.
And then, shoot, let's just throw Notre Dame in there because I'm mean.
Yeah, I don't think Notre Dame.
Notre Dame loses to them.
I mean, they had a problem with Temple, and I think those are comparable teams talent-wise.
I think they beat Michigan State, Iowa, and Utah.
Those are my three.
Okay.
Just because I could see that D-line force and, like, if they can stop the run in Utah, they're in trouble.
So if they committed everything to stop in the run and got into a shootout, it'd get ugly.
Anyway, why is Oklahoma 15th?
Oklahoma lost to Texas.
yeah because they're not paying attention that's my only there it's this goes back to the thing that um the thing they mentioned during the show the uh wins against 500 or better thing whichever when acted like that was a new thing which is not at all they they talked about that before the rankings last year and will con only wrote a thing about how stupid and terrible that is um it's because of that losing to texas only counts as losing to a pretty bad team not losing to a terrible team yeah that's that and that
And I also will take a slight quibble with having Texas A&M that high.
Texas A&M, I mean, sort of the bottom half of this is sort of like, okay, I guess, like, Northwestern had two of the most lopsided losses in the country this year.
Mississippi State, I couldn't tell you a thing about, and Texas A&M has looked absolutely lost on offense for about three weeks now.
Lost. Not like, oh, we're working new things in. No, like, lost. As in, they did not know who to start at quarterback.
Right. A&M, other than Kyler Murray and Miles Garrett, it's like, is the sound you want to make.
Yeah, pretty much. It's grim. Like, yeah. Yeah. We can just. Sure, rank them.
Sure. Houston, you'll never leave the 25th spot. Congratulations.
The college football playoff committee, making it up just like you are.
Let's do a reader questions really quickly.
I want to start because with Jerry Kill retiring, this is from at Brigh Mack on Twitter,
with Jerry Kill retiring, which coach most closely physically resembles his team slash mascot?
That is a really, really good question.
Because I thought about this and I actually, I don't have.
have one right now.
I don't.
I got one.
You got one?
Because Jared Kill was so perfect because he really did look like a gopher.
And I will not back off that.
I know that he is retired due to health reasons.
And he did a great job.
And that's all true.
He also does most resemble Goldie Gopher.
Not only do I have a good one, I can top that one.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Okay.
Brian Kelly, Notre Dame Fighting Irish.
we have seen the man fight it happened on camera this past weekend i don't even know why we're doing
the podcast after this he was probably turning fusha at the time oh man that fight was so good
because like you know what kind of a fighter he is he he's a grabber hand to throat
hand to throat like hand to throat if there's fabric in the way of throat grab that goes straight
for the throat like a short dude right like he fights exactly like angry short dude i bet he goes straight
for the throat yep it's it's very much to like oh i've seen road
approach
he fights like a
cartoon character
like a looney tunes
with the fists
whirling in front of him
like something you describe
as a poluka
I don't know what that is
yeah you're too stupid
to have a good time
just throwing him out
my favorite part of that clip
is Brian Van Gordered
he ain't seen shit
who who I'm a who
no officer
I don't I didn't see a thing
I was picking my daughter up
from tennis camp
coaching up my defense
yep just trying to pick up
a paycheck here coach
laser focused
on the next job
on the giant's job
on being on being
I don't know the Saskatchewan
Rough Riders linebackers coach
because whatever it takes
just got to get away from this guy
before he kills me
keep moving
question Ryan
this question comes from
Drew Shaw at
D Shaw 31 on Twitter
what college football team
would take the longest
for people to notice
if it disappeared
I think
going with the traditional understanding that the pack i'll stick to power five teams here because it seems
unfair to throw a uh mid a uh a non power five team under this particular bus pack 12 fairly regarded as
the least uh the conference with the biggest exposure problem and i think if i have to go with a pack
12 school that could disappear and we'd all sort of forget it might be colorado at this point
because I think there are already people who
believe that once they left the Big 12
they just like oh I don't eat
do they still play football I just assumed they died
they just went extinct yeah the Buffalo
like the MXPX album it's it's it's like the
older celebrity that everybody debates if they're still alive or not
like Paul Pardome died and there were plenty of people
who already thought Paul Prudome was dead
true I think I think I think
you can trump that with Oregon State.
Oregon State is the other school that I was considering there, but Oregon very badly is going
to need that win over Oregon State this year.
So it doesn't really factor as much.
So you would notice, you would notice in-rivalry week you're saying that, wait, wait,
why is Oregon playing Utah or whatever?
Since when do they hate each other?
But Oregon State is a good answer there too.
Yeah, I know that it's not a Power 5 team, but there are several Florida.
adjective Florida descriptor
schools that could just easily disappear.
The ones that sound like banks and airports.
Correct. If you sound like a banker in airport,
your team could disappear without too many people noticing.
For example.
Florida International Credit University.
If you left,
we really,
we really wouldn't notice too much, would we?
And they might be happier.
If Wake, I'm going to pick Wake Forest.
Wow.
I mean, I think you'd notice after a year or two, you would say...
Jim Grobe got him in the divorce and moved to Norway.
Which he would do.
Which he would.
To be the richest man in Norway.
That'd be such a sick black metal album band.
Black metal band name Wake Forest.
Wake Forest. The forest is awake.
What's he singing about? Winning four games, man.
And inexplicably playing for an ACC title.
Yeah, somehow getting in there.
Kick and Field Goals.
There's nothing more black metal than kicking field goals.
Burning down churches and kicking field goals.
Playing a 335 and kicking field goals.
Lining up a 220-pound defensive tackle.
To kick a field goal.
Coach, I'm 220 pounds.
I can't play the middle.
Kick the field goal.
Kick the field goal and play in the middle.
Satan's power.
Yeah, I think it would be...
Six, six, six is nothing but field goals.
They are the demon deacons.
So, yeah, I think you would notice after a year or two.
If Wait Forest just didn't play football, you would say, oh.
Did they leave?
Is that...
Let me check the schedule.
Maybe part of it is like, you know, you would notice that, like, wait, why is the ACC lopsided?
Would you notice?
Yeah, it's just what, like, it's just one.
side, though, it just lists sort of
and go in circles, which is what
the ACC already does.
Well, what if a big 12
team left and they were at 9 and you're like,
huh, well, they don't have a title game.
They don't have divisions.
Yeah, would you know, I mean, would you really
notice if I, I would notice if Iowa State was gone
because I enjoy watching
El Asico, but I am
one of eight people other than Iowa
Iowa State fans who really enjoys that game.
Would you notice that they were gone?
You'd know, well, that game
It seems really early, so you would
notice, you would feel the lack of Elasco
in your bones in September.
I also think that
Kansas State would also be an example
of this, not because they're obscure
or because they are
insignificant, no, because
I kind of think when Bill Snyder goes,
he should just take the keys with him.
Like, just lock
everything. Just saw the stadium.
Oh, we don't know the password anymore.
I can't even get in the room.
I actually like if he...
The password.
in Sanskrit. I'm sorry. That says Snyder family stadium, and we're not related last I checked. Have a nice day.
They hire a new coach and he can't go in because he's not in the Snyder family. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm out of marriageable daughters.
Sorry, Mr. Kiffin. I'll have to legally adopt you.
That's awesome. Bill Snyder's my dad now. Get in the film room, son. Now put on this Pinocchio outfit.
Oh, Jason, we have not answered your question yet, correct?
that's right
I still have one
chamber
yeah please
go ahead
from Jacket Dan on Twitter
Danny MacGT
who are the most realistic
additions to Memphis and Iowa
for the worst attended
CFP playoff ever
by ever we mean
topping last year
and I am going to issue a correction here
because Iowa fans travel
yes
they better shit
I think over the last half decade or so
of Iowa being bad at sports
we've forgotten that that is a
estate with some acreage
some population, and those people do not have many other interests other than the Hawkeyes,
these people will take over a facility.
They're excited to get excited and to drink their polkas, to sing their polka songs,
drink their polka songs would probably be more accurate.
But if I was in it, it'll be attended.
It won't be watched.
It will not be watched at all because everyone in the world who cares will be at the stadium.
But it'll be attended.
If we're talking about attendance and Stanford's got to be in there because, you know,
all their fans are holograms.
They attend
Well made holograms though
Listen
They will make a lot of money
Off the holograms in the stadium
If we could count
Snapchat attendance
Then Sanford fans
Would easily be in the top
120 schools
Stanford fans would just send
All digital platforms
Stanford fans would just send drones
With camera phones on them
Yeah I was at the game
We're not IRL fans
We're more multi-platform fans
What are you an analog fan
Yeah you show up
In meat space for this?
Please.
That's no way to get venture capital.
That doesn't disrupt anything.
I think another really terrible playoff if we somehow managed to get it would be, let's see, if we could get Utah involved.
There's just not that many of them.
They travel well, but there's just not that many of them.
Oklahoma State, same.
There's just not a lot of Oklahoma State fans, even in Oklahoma, proportionally.
There's just not.
I think Temple, if Temple had somehow gotten into this.
I mean, based on what Ty was saying on the solid verbal, that game, the biggest game Temple's played in decades, fair to say.
Ever.
Still had people there who were just like casual Eagles fans who wanted to talk about what the fuck's wrong with the Eagles.
Like you're telling me Chip Kelly
You said comes to shit
Just got a just got a sign being like
Why'd you trade Lashon?
Racist
Something racist
Um
Yeah I think those are the main ones
I am curious to see
I have one more power five one to put in there by the way
Who doesn't travel
Relevant to the interest of this podcast host
At least two thirds of us
Florida
We don't travel well at all
We're not accustomed to it
One of the semis is in the state of Florida
So your people could attend it
There are no parole issues with actually going to the game
And Gators can travel in the state of Florida
Please, it's not parole issues
It's mostly being served
It's not parole, it's mostly legal troubles
Parole, you're thinking more Florida's tape
So you can't show your face in public
It's high-end legal issues
The higher-end legal issues
issues. Embesling.
Tax fraud. The premium
issues.
Like they're, okay, okay.
Like they're government agents in
Miami. You can show your face
at the Orange Bowl. Well,
there's three of them. We just have to keep
them busy. You just got to pay them.
It's fine. They can't arrest us all?
No, they can't.
They can't. Damn it. I am
curious, given how
effectively Bud Elliott has
managed expectations
for Florida State fans this year.
If Florida State does sneak up
and go to the playoff,
are fans going to travel that,
or will they listen to Bud's sultry, bearded tones
and not believe in the NOLs?
Yeah.
Maybe Bud will insist that the NOLs aren't in the playoffs,
and FSU fans will get mad at the college football
playoff for putting them there.
I think what Bud can do,
it's say it's an SEC conspiracy to RECFSU
recruiting by taking Jimbo off the trail?
They're just trying to embarrass them.
They're just trying to embarrass them by putting them in a game they can't win.
They know if they put FSU in a quality five or six spot,
Florida State's going to show great,
but they're just trying to put them against the number one team,
get them embarrassed.
I do know this.
Whatever we attempt to predict is Bud's spin on this
will be outdone by the skill and precision with which he actually does it.
He's running the post right now.
He's in your house.
Dude, he's the Akeem-Elejuwon of low-posts.
like take pivots i have no i i can't box him in facebook you put let you put him in the post
you think you got the film on him and all of a sudden he's dunkin facebook eats these human organs
like you wouldn't believe i have no idea he's sincerely one of the best people i've ever seen
at it i have no idea how bud has never been wrong about a florida state take ever go back
and look he kills he kills the people who identify the wrong takes
Why do you think I go fishing?
You ever seen a manatee, eat a corpse?
I haven't.
I haven't.
I haven't.
I don't know.
Do you have a warrant?
You know what else describes Florida State's season this year?
It's the manatee, the corpse just moving slowly.
Don't believe.
Don't believe.
It's young.
It's going to get faster.
It's going to go from a manatee into a lethal shark.
To a grown manatee.
To a grown manatee with teeth.
This is just kid of teeth.
right now.
So this makes the gators the speedboat.
This makes the...
Yeah, which again is why we're dodging warrants.
Exactly.
You're just barring down on that manatee
and only one's going to float away from this.
Hey, man.
Could we afford the boat?
No.
Did we buy the boat?
Yes.
Is it licensed?
Yes.
Is it a recent license?
No.
Is the boat itself a dodge for something we probably embezzled?
Yes.
Was it for a business?
Over 500,000.
in total revenue. Absolutely.
Did our mother work for the business while not doing any work, but somehow making
$200,000 a year? I don't have to answer that.
I have no knowledge in any direction.
Don't have to incriminate myself.
It's in the Constitution.
Love you, mom.
Love you, mom. You owe me.
Let's look at the week ahead.
All right.
Which is a great week.
I will be at Florida State Clemson at beautiful Death Valley.
Death Valley, too.
I feel like there needs to be a deather.
Deather Valley, deathliest valley.
I will be there because this is a very important game
because it all but ends Florida State's national title hopes
and keeps Clemsons alive against a team that the Tigers have had
a full-on horrible intestinal cramping just struggle with
over the past couple of years.
Clemson's going to be Florida State.
Nope, nope, destroyed them in 2013.
2014, a heartbreaker, but Deshawn Watson, either his coming of age or proof of age at the end of that game, this is, this is something that I don't want to say is in Clemson's heads, because I don't think it is, because it was obvious that Florida State was the better team, I think, in both instances, but it's definitely something where this game means something to them, at least semantically, in terms of where they are in the ACC.
There were very few, I mean, they haven't beaten Florida State since 2011, so there are maybe a handful of people on that roster who have been on a Clemson team that beat the Knowles, right? It's not many.
No, it's really not many. I'd have to go back and look.
We're not doing that. That's work. That's work.
Dang. Anybody doing that? No.
But this is a team that the last time they were, this hyped, lost badly.
badly to Florida State
at home
the last time they played in Clemson
Florida State humiliated them
well
we'll see if James can suit back up
that would be Jimbo's most cunning move yet
it was but the last time they met in Clemson
it was 5114
5114 and honestly
it was not that close
cool
that was the game I think that was the game where
it was like 14-0 right away there's like a fumble something like that and yeah well there you go
yeah without that would have been would have been a game yeah by the way three in a row three in a row
they have not beaten florida state since a 35 30 game in 2011 i don't think that's that long i mean
without james around that that that really changes things yeah but they didn't lose that he wasn't
I don't know. I don't see this as any sort of a, like, FSU being any kind of a monster in Clemson's head or anything like that.
No, but Clemson almost beat FSU in Tallahassee last year.
It is still a hurdle that we should say, let's see if Clemson can clear this one rather than Clemson will.
That's all.
Yeah. I agree. We shouldn't count it as a win.
Well, and look at the rest of their schedule
Because after Florida State
I have to clear my throat before saying the
Celeste I gag
At Syracuse
Versus Wake Forest
At South Carolina
The worst South Carolina team in a decade easily
In a decade
In a full decade
The worst South Carolina team
Cool
So cool
That's what you have to party with after this
because if they get through Florida State,
the rest turned into procedurals that you should win,
and that puts Clemson where in the ACC title game,
where they will face someone else.
UAC or Pitt.
Someone else.
They'll definitely face someone else,
and they'll probably go undefeated,
and they'll be in the playoff.
They'll play someone about as good as Pitt.
But they do, I mean, even if, let's say,
the worst-case scenario for the ACC is probably,
Clemson loses, but Florida State drops another conference game along the way, and then
then what happens?
Now, who's Florida State losing to along the way?
All right, I know they lost to Georgia Tech, so anything can happen.
They still have to play NC State, which is not, I mean, NC State is not a great team,
but they're like top 50, top 40.
They're scrappy enough that they can give Florida State problems.
Yeah.
I'm not, look, I'm not, I'm not, like, dancing out of that limb.
We're thinking positive.
I'm not dancing out on that limb, but it's not, it's not impossible.
I, Deshawn Watson stays healthy, and that defense stays relatively healthy.
No one's taking them.
We've talked about the ACC too long.
Let's move on.
We really have.
Also, in the DACA, we have LSU Bama in Tuscaloosa, another game where we don't have to worry about the playoff rankings
because one of these teams has to lose this game, allegedly.
How is they going to keep either of them out of the playoff?
I think if Bama wins is going to change spots.
I think Bama moves up with a loss because that's almost the most quality loss you can have.
Best loss of the year.
LSU to one, Bama to three.
I mean, at that point, Bama would have two quality losses over top 25 opponents,
and Notre Dame would only have one.
And LSU would have a win over the number three team.
Who else got that?
which only makes that loss
Bama has more impressive. Really, it's kind of
just a feedback loop.
Hell, I'm going to slide old miss up eight slots.
Just cause.
No reason not to.
This is why Mrs.
Potato is ranked.
That would be just a drunk
college football playoff committee
all just put them in there.
Put them in three with two losses.
Do it.
Let's see what these assholes do.
Put it out there.
They just sit there and watch.
Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, laughing
their asses off. As
they should. They think it matters,
the idiots. You know, it's
funny, I just realized the entire SEC
US except for Arkansas is in the rankings,
and Arkansas's AD is the one in charge of this
thing. Is that funny?
It's a good
bitter, bitter comedy.
That's funny to me. That's funny.
That he has to go up there. Like, so hey, Jeff,
where's your team?
Well, the entire division.
Well, yeah.
My team is and as other rankings, but my team is not.
I think we have an impressive game coming up, though.
We have played many teams 500 or better.
Some of them are 500 or better thanks to Arkansas.
I'm excited that we have an ACC win in our coffers.
I got that in the back pocket and that cash that in at any point.
Thanks to the Big 12's habit of assigning two teams to one slot,
we only lost to the fourth
ranked team in the Big 12
not eighth.
We can double them up.
And also this, LSU
Bama, I know this has a
reputation as being the
or the slobber knocker.
It's mostly just the slobber.
Man ball, man ball, Christmas.
What this has been referred to by
some on the internet.
Eric, aka Gothlaw,
from Roll Bama Role, for those people.
Bandball Christmas, because I love concussion heavy football.
But this is one of those games that I think can be a little higher scoring than people anticipated.
It really can.
I don't think it has to be, you know, a 6-9 game.
It has been in the past.
But it's really not going to go too much farther over like 30.
I really don't think.
I thought you were going to say 12.
12.
I mean, this is my question to the two of you.
Do you actually enjoy watching this game?
Sure.
I guess.
I don't know.
I have mixed feelings.
I mean, to me, it's less about the aesthetics of,
oh, I enjoy this kind of play.
And more just like, this is a big-ass game.
This is as big as it gets, man.
Like, people can't get no more turned up than this.
And if we don't like the schematics of what the receivers are running
and we'd rather them be running further down the field or whatever.
Okay, but man, people, this is 100,000 people as lit as they can possibly be.
The over-under for this game is listed at about 47, 48 points.
Wouldn't touch it with a 10-foot pole in your dick.
It started at 54.
Keep it coming.
Yeah.
Reeling it on in.
But if it does break, and God, this is a sad thing to say, if it does break 40 points total,
either one team just demolish the other
and we can say definitively
oh that team's the best team in the division
or we had a good close game
division
Florida's still hanging
mostly I want to talk about Vanderbilt
oh don't we all
I thought we were just going to go ahead and pencil
number one no matter what
yeah we were going to do that no matter what I do also
think that an interesting thing can happen in this game
because I'm kind of on Jason's side
that this is not normally
in my cup of tea however
the scene and how it will be broadcast
and how it will look
and what will happen
because these games can get fairly dramatic
this was the
the 2012
masterpiece
I believe with AJ McCarrant
up and off his Heisman
winning screen pass
he didn't win the Heism
to win the game
and that was very excited
that was probably one of the better games
I've watched over the last five years
but we get to watch Derek Henry and Leonard
Fornett on the same field
at running back.
That's good.
That's fun.
Yeah, that's the spirit.
That's good.
That's good and fantastic and fun,
and I can't do that.
Also, I'm kind of like,
low-key excited,
if that's possible,
about LSU's wide receivers
versus Bama secondary
because I think that's something
they can take a little more advantage of
than people think.
There are two teams
that will actually try to pass,
which is different
than it has a.
been in previous years?
Well, yeah, and when LSU does it, it's still a perpetual surprise, even though we've
seen Brandon Harris, you know, throw over 20 times in a game a couple of times this season.
You know, that's not typically their M.O., but it can't be something Alabama's ready for either.
Yeah.
Because they just don't have enough film.
I mean, Alabama averages 33 passes a game.
Like, they will sling in a little bit.
The only game where they didn't really was that Georgia game in the rain.
and oh yeah, also they didn't need to pass the ball.
Yeah, because Georgia's not very good this year.
We almost made a whole podcast without mentioning that.
No, no, we have to mention it.
Reset the clock.
Contractually, yeah, it has been 45 days since we mentioned how much time just suck.
Flip over the card.
Yeah.
Another safety accident.
Yeah, I would also mention, too, that you're doing that with Jacob Coker.
Passing 33 times in a game.
yeah okay sure we all make choices yeah who man remind me i got an i got a lane kiffin story i can't
even tell in this podcast to tell you all so you don't have a lane kiffin story spencer
yeah hey computer listen i've had enough johnny walker black label um you stop your assassin
lane kiff's a nice man and he never shook his dick at you in a public library
You said a computer
I like that that's the detail
we find least probable here
What's it
He thought it was the world's worst food court
Okay
Seriously though I'm going to tell you this
Lane Kiffin story after the podcast
And if you made it this far you'll be tantalized
And seriously I can't tell you
I can't but it's so much better than any story
You heard about him
of them all right let's what else what else intrigues you about i mean we're tCU oklahoma state that's
a game right definitely this is part of our this is part of our slow developing uh michael man style
movie that is the big 12 right every year nothing happens for the first two months and everyone
looks cool and then all of a sudden people start actually firing real guns right okay yeah yeah
that's legit yeah i'm kind of it'll be a hundred 20 point thing and someone will win i'm kind of
willing to buy into Oklahoma State a bit here. I don't, I don't necessarily think they'll beat
TCU, but we spent, what, six weeks saying we knew nothing about this team? I don't feel so
bad about them now. Nope, I don't. And I feel a little more, I feel a little more solid about
that. I feel a little more solid, particularly about the quarterback play. They've just been,
they've been an extremely effective team. Yeah, they dunked very slightly harder on Texas Tech than
everyone else has. Yeah. Hey, watch the rim.
Watch the backboard.
If you break it, you did a good job.
Oklahoma State definitely broke the backboard, dunk it on Texas Tech, which not everyone does.
Remember, Texas Tech's like Sean Bradley.
Everybody gets to dunk on them.
Oh, man.
And they're kind of spectacular.
It's just how hard you dunk on them.
And Sean Bradley, just like Cliff Kingsbury, got where he was based on his looks.
I was just going to say, it's a good thing he's so photogenic because he's on a lot of posters.