Shutdown Fullcast - Shutdown Fullcast 4.13.0
Episode Date: April 27, 2016Andy Staples of Sports Illustrated joins us at the last minute to take Jason's spot. Where is Jason? Jason was at Disney World, and needs several weeks to recover from the experience. This seems like ...a paltry amount of time for this, but he's a soldier and we can't keep him away from the front lines for long. Topics covered include: --The time Andy yelled "IRON" in Italian at terrified Florentines until someone finally sold him one for 19 euros --How to care about anything in what might be the driest, most boring offseason college football has ever known (A: you can't, really) --Why the Department of Justice has solved every major issue facing this country --A brief discussion of how USC might be one of the most incompetent athletic departments in the country and yet still get bailed out by resources, beautiful surroundings, and UCLA never caring enough to be good --Which conference will be the first to construct a giant monster truck made entirely of Mini Coopers? (Texas, it's gonna be Texas.) --Yet more epic tales of poor and stupid living from Alachua County --The unveiling of the Andy Staples Perpetual Motion BBQ machine --The first and only edition of "Joel Osteen or Mack Brown?" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to the shutdown fullcast.
I have some good news, and I have some bad news, and I have some bad news, and I have some good news.
All right?
I'm going to try to deliver it in some variation of that order.
The bad news.
We don't have Jason Kirk tonight.
Okay?
We don't have Jason Kirk.
We had not lost Jason Kirk.
We lost Prince already this week.
That would be a bit much.
He is merely consumed with Disney World.
I'll ask the person who is replacing him,
which is our first bit of good news,
which is Andy Staples, Sports Illustrated,
joining us from what I imagine
is an overpriced hotel room in New York City.
Hi, Andy.
Hi, Spencer.
It's more of an overpriced closet.
Yeah, that's good.
Which hotel are you just going to spill the beans
and tell us which hotel you're saying at?
It's a Fairfield Inn.
I can see the East River.
So if I look, if I squint,
I can probably see Ryan Nanny over in Brooklyn.
That's a top two New York River.
Whoa, whoa.
Who's that? Who's that?
Hello, governor.
I'm back from the continent. I am.
It looks like just the wrong accent even by category, man.
Don't know about that.
Yep. The good news is that Ryan is back, and the bad news is that Ryan is back.
Hi, Ryan.
Oh, man.
I left you at par there. I don't think that's too bad.
Yeah, I guess 500 is what I'm really going for on most days.
So that's fine.
Hey, win some, lose some, wreck some, son.
In case people don't know, where have you been?
I went to Italy for two weeks, and I was barely on the internet, and it was wonderful,
and I highly recommend it to anybody who does work for the internet.
Mm-mm-mm-mm. Can I just stop you? You need to rephrase that.
I was not on the internet, comma, and I was in Italy.
And I was in Italy, yeah.
I have two travel destinations to ask you each about, one being Disney World with Andy.
You have kids, Andy, correct?
I do.
We have Disney annual passes.
Okay.
So with Disney, your overall verdict as a parent and your killer tip for absolutely
screwing someone else at Disney out of a spot in line, something good, or otherwise cutting a corner.
Okay.
You can overlap your fast passes.
So if, for example, we have four, there's four of us, me, my wife, two kids.
so if you want to get on Big Thunder Mountain and there's a big line well okay
there's never a line for Big Thunder Mountain if you want to get if you want to get on
the new seven dwarfs ride in Fantasy Land and there's a big line and you can't get
more than two fast passes together you overlap your fast passes so you get one set of
fast passes that goes from 330 to 430 and another set of fast passes that goes from 415
to 515. So you get two of each, and then you show up at 415, and all your passes work.
Wow. Are you the kind of dude who puts two cans of sterno under a single chafing dish?
Well, you want to keep it warm, don't you?
I would like to keep it warm, yes. Well, somewhere between warm and the chafing dish has a
hole, like, blown to the bottom of it. No, I wish I could say that I deserve any credit for that.
that was a that was stolen from one of my wife's sisters so that is a that is a sinister and
evil thing to do at Disney also also by the way now I can't do this much longer because my kids are
too old but when they when we had the the big double Bob revolution stroller with the with the
giant monster truck tires I mean really foreign tourists expect us to be rude anyway
So there's no reason
You can't just run them over
If they decide to stop in the middle of a thoroughfare
You're just giving them an experience
It's not rude
I give them a story to take home
Fast Pass is a wonderful thing
Because it's kind of a useful metaphor
For America
The line is what we think America is
We're just like yeah
Equality Everybody waits their turn
And then FastPass comes along and says
Oh not if you have money
It's a little different if you have money
Or not if you're smarter than everybody
everyone else. Also that. Also that.
Remember, it's totally legal as long
as you scream, I'm Jack Bauer!
As you're like ramming. Exactly.
There's no time.
So many things are legal. In most red states, if you scream, I'm Jack Bauer.
Whatever you did was just legal.
There's no time. Why are you torturing that man? There's no time.
There's no time. I need this gas quick QT manager.
I want more garlic knots.
still have never seen an episode of 24.
Wow, that's hard to do.
I know, I know.
I think you would actually really enjoy it because now it's so grotesque
that it reminds you that we lived through one of the most barbaric, stupid times
in our nation's history.
Like, that's all it was.
It was like a fight song for dumbness.
There's a whole thing we're doing on this, by the way.
But, yeah, you should really go see it.
It's amazing.
John Boyes is doing something awesome on it.
It's like my favorite thing we've done on SB Nation ever and it has nothing to do with sports.
Don't ask questions about it.
Ryan, Annie!
Hey, you were in Italy.
What were, I just want you to name, not three, but just like two things where you go, oh, I'm really in Italy.
This is definitely not anywhere else.
The first is the first place we went, which is the Chinquatera, these five little seaside villages.
on the Mediterranean
that
all told I would be surprised
if there are more than
a thousand people that live between all of them
and they are
essentially almost entirely
unchanged. They're just
perfectly charming and small
and the ocean's right there
and they just feed you
anchovies and pesto and it's wonderful.
And then the other thing is totally
cliche
but there is not the main
church in Florence, not the Duomo, but the, I guess number two on the list there. You go inside
and they have in one church the burial sites of Michelangelo, Machiavelli, Dante, and Galileo.
And you're like, okay, so that's cool. So everybody's just buried here. That's fun. That's quite a
who's who's who. Yeah, I have a Florence story too.
we get to Florence first day
there's no iron in my room
my clothes are completely just compressed into
a cube like they've been
in one of those vehicle trash compactors
or scrap metal compactors
and so I go down the front desk
you know can I get an iron oh we don't do that we offer
laundry service I just need an iron
so I walk out into the street and
see some American tourists and
say
Hey, do you guys know where I might be able to find an iron?
And all you times, means she says,
Just wear your clothes wrinkled.
And I said, this is why they hate us.
These people are immaculately dressed.
They looked like they walked out of a GQ spread.
I'm not going to walk around with wrinkle clothes.
I'm just not going to do this.
I'm going to find an iron.
So I got the Italian term for iron,
which is Fedo de Stitto.
And I walked in various stores screaming,
Fedo de Stitto and
I don't know
I'm a little bit bigger
than the average Italian
sure no no
they look somewhat terrified
and so after
the you know three or four stops
with no luck I finally find kind of like
you know
five and dime
dry goods store
has a little bit of everything and on
the top shelf I'm like
Fetto de Stito!
I pay my
pay my 19 euros
and I hold it a loft
through the city like the freaking Stanley Cup
but then you had to leave it
behind I assume
oh no I still have it
wait but
hold on
you're telling me you have an iron
that has a plug that
only works with European outlets
so you have an adapter
that you use
just for your own I don't use it anymore
I just have it
Oh, it's just a trophy of sorts.
It is a trophy.
But if I needed to use it, they make those adapters, same as we go over there and bring adapters for our stuff.
Right.
They come over here and bring adapters for their stuff.
So, yeah, it's available.
You have an iron that also probably doubles as an espresso maker.
Yes.
That's probably why you still have it.
Well, you can draw, you can actually, if you make a cappuccino, you can actually draw faces and different pictures in it.
When you hold it up to something else that's Italian made, you begin to hear these, like, ghost whispers of, like, erotic Italian phrases, right? Words of love?
No, you just, you just begin to smell mortadella and prosciutto.
And then it goes on scheduled strike in 10-minute increments.
Yes, and does not reopen until 9 p.m. for dinner.
Why does this iron smoke? I mean, smoke, like cigarette.
I don't mean smoke.
This is so weird.
This iron is saying some very racist things about southern Italy.
I know.
It's crazy.
This iron is starting a soccer riot.
This is the weirdest iron ever.
Andy, I wanted to ask you, because in our pregame meeting, I might have been a little more delicate about this.
But seriously, how do you give a shit about anything that's happened this off-season?
I don't.
I really don't.
How?
The satellite camp thing, I said it.
last year. It's the dumbest of all NCAA arguments, which is saying a lot. And I think it's
poetic justice, if it's true, our friend Paul might have heard with the story and you say today
that the DOJ may be investigating the NCAA over satellite camps. That this is the issue
that gets the NCAA investigated by the DOJ. Yeah, not, not, oh, hey, there's unpaid labor.
favorite thing. Not alleged competitors colluding to create a
price ceiling. No, no, not unpaid
labor, not unfair labor practices, not the lack of
mobility of that labor, not the fact that we don't
actually pay in anything that doesn't equal the company's store when the
company over. Nope, nope, nope. Brett Bilema can't have a camp
at Cowboys Stadium and that is what brings out the DOJ.
man they're bored too it's you know it's a it's a it's a lame duck year they don't want to
get offseason for them too yeah it's not like you want to go do real stuff that's the other thing
is we need some realignment there should be a rule that they should shuffle the conferences every
year i would just i want to make this point by the way that we've solved everything else
yes we have no problems we can do this that's i mean i think that's actually the biggest
compliment to the obama administration we can possibly make we've got it we've gotten
the way down the list, and we've gotten to this.
You also have to think of it from, if you're a DOJ investigator in D.C., and you're like, man, I, you know, December's just going to be that weird time.
You don't want to have a satellite camp in Miami?
Exactly.
And so you go to your boss, and you're like, listen, December is going to be a weird time, transition to new president, et cetera, et cetera.
I think we should just plan to investigate this and then, you know, get out of D.C. then, oh, yeah, we really got to see what's going on with these satellite camps.
Yeah, we're going to need two weeks in Orlando in the middle of winter.
I'm sorry, it's for the nation.
Did you say you were having a satellite camp at hedonism?
Hey, that sounds great.
Not even in the United States.
Yeah, I know, I know.
These people, they're subverting the law by going overseas.
Yeah, their Hague convention might apply here.
We don't know.
We just don't know.
You know Nick Sabin will do anything for recruits.
If they need to promise a satellite camp or even a spring break trip to hedonism,
they're going to do it.
Man, you know what?
That's outside of the United States.
They really couldn't say much, could they?
No.
I think we just, I think we just gave Bama some ideas.
And with Bama's new rebranding as are, I guess, most sexually governed, like, sexually governed state.
Is that, is that how we're terming it?
Okay.
You know, that, well, I mean.
I mean, since Mark Sanford got out office in South Carolina.
That's true.
Yeah.
yeah there's that since mark stanford went to the uh what was it where was it hiking in the appellations
yeah that's where he was yeah except he's in south america with his lady friend
we all go we all go a hemisphere off that is by the way governor robert bentley who uh let's see
what what school did he attend oh that'd be that'd be real tight he attended the university of
alabama just want to dump that on our our official worst state
Oh man
LSU fans
By the way
are saying
That's not really a scandal
We call that Tuesday
In Louisiana
The scandal
The scandal is caring
Right
Like that's the thing
In Louisiana
No one would care
Because they would be like
Well you're an amateur
Why didn't you start like 50 years earlier
You should be unlike wife nine
Like Edwin Edwards ruined everybody
For what is a proper
scandal there
And before him
there's like five governors who were worse like way worse this is why you eyes wide remember this
why you got eyes wide shut it keep that mask on that's oh we all we all know it's you huey
you're singing you're singing you're singing hold that tiger during the orgy we know
Sean Peyton you can't leave the visor on that's how they know it's you let's not get too
close to the truth now moving on I mean is there if you were the coach of the saints what
depravity would you think to
I know what everyone on this podcast would do every single different vice.
Andy, you'd weigh 500 pounds.
A pool full of et tufei, yeah, like in the backyard.
That's why Rob Ryan stuck around so long.
So Sean Payton could be like, yeah, he's the crazy.
Oh, man, look at that crazy guy.
Better see what kind of antics he's getting into.
Don't look at me.
Oh, he's got a beard.
That's wild.
And I won't speak for Ryan.
Was that your Sean Payton impression or you Rob Ryan impression?
I'm confused.
It's a little bit of both.
Okay.
And I also would say that, that, you know, my vice, I would just be tanked.
There's no way for me to stay sober in New Orleans.
It just doesn't happen.
It just doesn't.
They have drive-through-dackery stands.
They let you walk around the corridor with a beer.
And everywhere else is basically like, well, that's cool.
I think you could find if you have a closed container.
I mean, it's the only place I've ever been where they ask you if you want.
a go cup for every drink you have it doesn't matter you could have like you could have a tumbler
a third and they'd be like you want to go go cup for that that'll be hard to keep in your car
you want to live it it is interesting when you see lSU fans in other states for road games because
they really i mean the go cup is such a reflex for them and then you'll see them walk out of the
out of the building they're in with their go cup and they'll kind of like they've hit a four
field as they realize, oh, I could be arrested
for this. And then just
drink it really quickly. This is why LSU
needs to secede, and then boom,
diplomatic community.
Oh, man, NCAA
come after us if you want.
You're all ambassadors.
Charter members of the SEC.
What's you going to do about that, son?
Huh? Also, seriously, it'll become
an instant offshore, and that's how LSU
is going to get through this budget crisis.
Right?
Because they'll be like, like,
like, WikiLeaks will come out and they'll be like,
Did you know that this huge Old Miss and Alabama slush fund just sitting there in Louisiana tax-free?
And it'll be like, why are you telling?
Like, why?
Can you imagine the threat on tiger droppings?
Julian Assange is a Mississippi state plant.
I have such a hard time carrying about anything that's happened this off-season.
Like, has any, like, Ryan, is there any?
thing that you can think of where you go, oh, that was interesting?
No.
None of it.
I mean, I guess.
And the problem is that the 24-hour news cycle requires us to gin up some sort of enthusiasm
or aggravation or whatever about something, because we have to talk about something.
But the good news is we cover college football, so we can go off on ridiculous tangents.
Imagine if we covered the NFL and the off-season was boring.
That doesn't happen.
The NFL prevents that from that.
I mean, the off-season is boring.
Yeah.
I will say, I do think it was interesting that Illinois signed the, signed a temporary coach to a two-year extension, got a new AD, first day of the job, new AD fires.
How about the stones of the AD coming from Division III and on day one?
Hi, I'm here.
You're fired.
Perfect.
I mean, I kind of admire that.
I admire his moxie.
Oh, and in other interesting AD news that maybe you talked about last week, I don't know.
I do like that USC just was like, hey, Lynn Swan, you want this job?
And he was like, wait, who?
What?
Do what now?
Sure.
Have you been on a college football television broadcast?
Did you play for USC?
Yes, yes?
Okay, good.
That's fantastic.
Matt Leiner, you're up next.
Yeah, I mean, if it is, USC's athletic department is basically.
like the world's best fraternity because if you went if you were part of it you will always have a job
they will always find something for you to do you want to coach basketball great here you go i did find
it interesting so ward manual the new ad at michigan that was the first time in the history of the
michigan athletic department that they had hired a sitting athletic director to be their athletic director
ever which i thought was fast yes i thought that was fascinating well they're really they're working on it
sounds like they really haven't been many of them right like that's the thing no there's only been
like seven yeah USC is I'm convinced operates on this principle and this goes for coaching hires as
well they operate on the principle of um we will only hire one person and we will continue hiring
that same person until the mistake becomes so crystal clear and apparent that we may actually
have to accidentally change tack that's it like they've hired that is how they handle the football
Coach. Third offensive
coordinator in a row. Third USC
offensive coordinator in a row that they hired.
At least they've changed from the getting
the band back to another Pete Carroll
situation. Because they did that twice
in a row. Sort of.
Because they're running out of people.
But you still got to have a connection.
They can't hire Nick Holt.
He's a defensive coordinator.
Who else they got? They can't hire Orgeron.
They passed him up.
Norm Chowse Free.
Get Norm.
get norm bring norm back oh you could you could totally weekend at bernies a whole season with norm chow
yeah i think that might be your only option
norm just seems so sleepy is he calling time out it's very spastic
very exactly clay hilton behind him like wiggling the arms wow look at that
hey good to see jonathan silverman's getting work again good for him
i also have a theory that being a rich kid school in l.A. is dangerously close to
the arrested development portrayal of the wealthy in California, right?
It's like the kid with the golf cart.
Remember the kid that, what player got in trouble for riding in that kid's golf cart?
That kid, by the way, Spencer was from, well, and Ryan, too.
It was from all of our home state.
Yes.
Florida, of course.
Yeah.
Good.
So he took a little bit of Florida to Southern California as a rich kid in Southern California.
I appreciate that.
I mean, I like that people assume they're like, hmm, they know what they're doing.
That's USC.
They get real lucky.
It's a very rich school that has a tremendous talent base and not much competition for said base.
You can be pretty inept and accidentally land a dude like Pete Carroll.
And boom, guess what?
Back in the dynasty era, baby.
And they are perfectly willing to point to their neighborhood compatriot.
Be like, hey, you really want to see some mismanagement?
Dan Guerrero stuck around a while.
That's another thing I can.
and even, like, that's the story of ineptitude,
and I still can't bring myself to care about it.
It's good.
The guy who was a Pac-12 representative
for this, like, rules change,
voted the wrong way.
And then got called out on it publicly.
That was the part that was really amazing.
It was, and the thing is,
that calling Guerrero
I was going to hurt Larry Scott more than hurts Guerrero.
Because Guerrero was, like, the one guy in the Pac-12
who didn't talk bad about Larry Scott behind his back.
Dan Guerrero is unkillable at this point.
Nothing can stop him.
And that is, by the way, the Pac-12, Andy had a column on it recently.
The Pac-12 officially missed out on, like, the modern era now, right?
They've missed out on the moment in the contemporary moment of college football.
Tom Hansen made sure they missed out.
Larry Scott attempted to bring them into it, but he didn't realize, you know, you only get the one
bite of the Apple with the TV deal, and everybody else still had to do their TV deals.
So they're the HD DVD, and everybody else is Blu-ray.
They're like, shit, we really thought this is going to work. God, God damn it.
Actually, it might be the laser disc.
Wow.
Ti-vo.
So they'll be cool.
They'll be cool again in, like, 20 years.
Exactly.
Only for hipsters.
Yeah, that's fine.
that's fine i mean he only watched late at night so hey exactly it's a little team
called wazoo there in pullman you probably never heard of it it's a crazy town
he's got this kind of like a mad genius he runs this band there it's really awesome
i like i like rich rod before he was playing arenas
todd graham unplugged man it's just different sound
it is you can hear him doing the contract negotiations
with another school just hear him texas for me
players
I'm coming
no I'm not
that that and this
and by the way
that's enough talk about the fact 12
other than what are you doing running
like a TV network out of San Francisco
you can't
that's like the dumbest
I mean I remember out to the offices
and you're like yeah man
this is close to y'all are close to nothing
this is the you don't have it
yeah really where they should do it is Barstow
who
Land is cheap, the outlet mall is close
in case the talent needs to, you know,
buy some new suits or something,
halfway to Vegas, you know, between
Vegas and L.A.
I think that's the way to go.
I maintain just, just do it in Vegas
and become the most corrupt, profitable
football league and like,
I mean, yeah, sure. This is what I don't get.
Why doesn't somebody just go complete heel turn?
Why not?
Yeah, the DOJ, maybe?
I don't know.
Once they get to the bottom of this satellite,
I can't think.
See, I think it's going to take him a few years for that.
But no, how about the PAC 12 goes complete heel turn, says we agree amongst each other?
Oh, wait, no, I'm describing the Southwest Conference.
Which is why I was about to point you to the Big 12.
Because if any conference is actually going to go full heel turn, it's going to be the one
that has the state of Texas at it.
They're going to be the ones who do it.
And the problem is also that, like any good heist movie, like an Italian job,
The problem is when everybody agrees to go heal, somebody double-crosses you.
Well, Texas ain't driving a Mini Cooper.
I can tell you that right now.
It's not going to happen.
They might drive five Mini-Coopers strapped into form like a huge truck, right?
Like if you made a truck out of Mini-Cupers, like a giant truck,
I'd be like, that's boss as hell.
A Maxi Cooper truck.
Did you get the wheels on your truck replaced with Mini Cooper?
Sure did.
What it will be is a truck body
With a mini cooper
On each side of the axle
Right
On each side of each axle
Yes
So it will actually look like a roller skate
Made of mini cooper
That's right
With a giant
With a giant bar of cakey lights
That can actually light up a high school stadium
Turn radius is a son of a bitch
But I love it
Yeah
And Charlie Strong is going to total it
Running it over in a one car accident
With Iowa State
I don't understand
Iowa State's a pedestrian
Yeah, but they're strong.
Yeah, I mean, if you ever, it's like hitting a deer, man.
Sometimes it just runs away from the accident.
You've totaled your car.
Nuts.
Go clones.
That was not a joke I expected to be able to make at the end of that discussion.
I'm proud of you.
I know.
We did it.
We got there.
My talented person.
We don't have, by the way, many great questions.
We don't.
It just didn't.
Sometimes the people come through.
One of those off seasons.
It's fine.
Sometimes people don't.
There were a couple. I didn't, I didn't hate this batch.
Oh, you didn't, I mean, I didn't hate it. It's just kind of, it's kind of me.
So I figured, Ryan, do you want to start with our reader questions today?
Yeah, this is one that I think is going to be very, I think that the two of you are really going to have a good time with this.
This question comes from President Fuchs. I think that's how you call, what you call the name of Florida's current president. I honestly don't know.
Fox. Fox. Fox? Fox. Fox?
Fox
Fox. Like the animal.
Fox. Fox.
I say this because it's F-U-C-H-S.
At Griffin Fox
on Twitter.
Describe the best and worst night out in Gainesville.
I will let each of you pick one.
But I'm excited to see where you take this.
Probably the same night.
It probably is.
The best night out in Gainesville,
circa 1999 was karaoke night at the grog house on Saturday night.
Now, I may be mixing my nights, because I might have spent Thursdays, Fridays, and Saturdays at the grog house.
But if I recall correctly, there's dollar pictures of Natty Light and like a square of cardboard and a karaoke machine and just a mob of sweaty people.
and you would go and I would
my friends and I would sing up where we belong
and we would have dollar pictures of Natty Light
and that is simultaneously the best and worst night of your life
I have a couple
I've shared a few of these
one the night when
we got a lot of beers
and decided to start a fire
out in front of a house
that was a block off of 13th Street
but the woods were so thick you could barely see it
but it was behind the Havardies
okay so
oh yeah and the creepiest little
or not little say that it was a
godfather's pizza
correct so what we would do
is get a lot of beer and then we would
take spare furniture from the back of
Havardies that they had thrown out and
burn it and that was our firewood
and when we did that the redneck's
next door said hey you got a fire
going yeah cool
we're going to get a shovel we hit a deer and we're going to put it in the ground do you guys want to come over and eat it with pocket knives
these were not students these were locals correct
oh these were acrs they were allowed to county residents as a current ACR because i can feel my body changing at
times as i become more of an ACR so i just need to know what to expect as i go forward first get a shovel
you'll need a shovel repeatedly
there was this really awful story
in Gainesville by the way
where an alligator like
attacked a homeless guy and like took his hand
or something
and it was in this encampment that was
kind of just off of university and 13th
like really not that far from the campus
and when they were interviewing one of the guys' friends
who I guess had like lost his hand
or died
my memory's really not working for me real well here
they asked him
well why was he in the pond with this gator and he goes well it's a pond where we we take a bath and you know the gator had been cool so many times before like honestly it was a real cool gator i can't believe he did this like that that guy was our friend
which i was like that's that's where the story takes the turn for me was well i mean the gator'd been cool
that's right it's it is the chris rock line
that gator didn't go crazy that gator went gator
right the worst
my worst night in gainsville
probably
probably the night
god
yeah you could just admit to like a crime
it's a misdemeanor right
what's the general crime just so we can know
we are speaking to an attorney
I will put it this way
I got into a fight with somebody
in a very uncomfortable personal situation
and it ended up walking a mile and a half home
back to my dorm room in a dress with heels
cool wow
yeah that was a real bad night
cool it was a drag party
I didn't just do that on a random night
it was a drag party as you said that reminds me
the night I got thrown out of the university club
for underage drinking
that's yeah
I was going
in there because they served people underage
I you know that's the whole point
but that's why I was there
and when
when the bouncer who's not your typical
you know because all the other bars had
the roided out bouncers
if you don't know we have to tell the listener
the university club is a
or is I don't know if it's still there it was a gay
club in downtown and it was
actually great because the football team was almost always
there because they could get people served
who were under age so they actually
ended up being pretty cool like I was
never, I went in there all the time, and it was never like, because we had a roommate, and it was
never a big deal at all when the football team rolled in. It was just like, oh, hey, look, big
dudes, cool. Well, the look of scorn on the face of the 5 foot 7, 160 pound bouncer as he cut
the course of my driver's license, so I could never enter the university club again in the rink.
Wow, that's, it was, it was very, that's serious. That's, that's one of the most, it was
harsh punishments you can get in Gainesville. Why would you do that? Um, as far as bad nights in Gainesville
go, just generally, I never understood why so many of the apartment complexes have stairs.
Like, Gainesville's a, Gainesville's not terrible. So they have ramps? Well, I just, just, I, I'm trying
to think of how many people I knew in four years who brutally injured themselves in some way, because
they went to, oh, that's why, you had to, you had to, okay, so I lived in campus club.
The second year it was open.
And we had, yeah, when mom and dad are paying the rent, which is, that was the case for a lot of campus club back in the day.
You're not really concerned about others' property?
Sure.
So when our across the street neighbors got tired, or not across the street, across the breezeway neighbors got tired of playing with their pet snake, they decided they were going to break the glass on every.
fire alarm in the complex with the bare hands cool yeah they um they only got one of them
because you're not going to believe this if you smash your hand through a glass window it
will bleed considerably yeah it's not a real repeatable process so they were fun um also you get the
you know you get some randos at those if you threw a party at campus club just because
you know people just open their doors
and once a crowd gathers.
So we had one dude just walk in and puke in our washing machine one night.
Yeah, that'll happen.
Which for about two minutes, we were very, you know, very upset,
didn't understand what was going on.
And then I left at my roommates and I said, guys,
you do realize he just puked in the second best place to throw up anywhere.
And I turned the washing machine on.
It's the dryer you really don't want to puke him.
exactly exactly
no that's a
oh I will
one more thing I don't recommend
in Gainesville I don't think it's possible to do because I believe
this place has shuddered yes it has
the Walmart on 13th street
do not fill a
super big gulp cup
well no 7-11s in Gainesville but the
kangaroo station equivalent of
the super big gulp
don't fill that with
with Jack and Coke
and just continuously take poles off of it
and go shopping at the 13th Street Walmart
at 3 in the morning.
Because you may not realize what you buy.
You also may not realize how you got out of there
and you will certainly realize
that you woke up in a pool of your own vomit.
That's an endorsement for Wild Irish Rose instead, I assume.
Mind you, that started anything that starts with,
you know, the Walmart on 13th Street.
Okay.
Now Burlington's even co-factory, so not an issue.
at 2 in the morning anymore. It's closed up.
I wanted to answer
this question. Ask this
question. It's all three of us, but I think
we know who he's really addressing.
And I
can't answer this because I've never been to Franklin's because
I'm not waiting in that damn line.
Mueller
Mueller or Franklin's, Andy?
Here's my problem. Are we
I guess we're going to talk. We're talking
about Louis Mueller and Taylor.
Yeah, we're going to have been in light.
Because the Mueller meat company, I can't
speak to because the
three or four times I've tried to go.
It's either been the one day they were closed,
or he just decided he didn't want to cook very much that day
and was out at like 11 o'clock in the morning.
But Louis Mueller and Taylor,
that beef rib is sort of the gold standard for beef ribs
in the state of Texas.
Pecan Lodge may be better now in Dallas,
but I don't know.
It is pretty awesome because that place is old.
The walls are black.
The pit has burned,
a few times, I think.
And, you know, you just kind of pick out your beef rib, and they throw it on a scale,
and it's a glorious sight to behold.
Franklin is still the best risk I've ever had.
But, I mean, four and a half hours in line, I just don't see why.
There are so many other places you can go that are close by with much less weight,
where you can drive to them, eat, and drive back before you get to the front of the Franklin line
that are not that far down from Franklin.
so I would just go for the experience to the other ones I walked straight into
Franklin no line but that is because I was there hurricane I was there for Andy Wall's
rehearsal dinner and she she knows people who knows people know people she conned them into
letting her have her rehearsal dinner for her wedding there and boy was it was it was it was
it was very fun to tell people yeah we just walked right in but the best part of the best part of
rehearsal dinner, I think, was the fact that her now husband, Brian, who's a wonderful man,
he has a particular affliction of sorts where his body doesn't process meat, I believe it's
any meat proteins well at all. He can eat them, but it's a real, like, he lives in the wrong
town. Yeah, it's a real, like, have a bathroom ready situation. So everybody is at this rehearsal
dinner enjoying franklin's and he god bless him had to bring his own like falafel and just
but he was he was a very good sport about it see in austin you can play that off you're like
no man you just don't get the falafel right right you can't hear falafel right this isn't like any other
falafel yeah these are these are by the way of course
both in Austin.
You should go to, well, one's in Austin,
one's in Taylor, which is outside of Austin.
But, you know, you're not far.
It's not far.
Here, let me give you the best way to do this without, you know,
you get two meals out of it.
You don't end up waiting in line nearly as long.
You go to snows in Lexington,
and it's only open one day a week.
It's only open Saturdays.
They open at 8 a.m.
You leave Austin at 6.45.
You will roll in there five minutes before they open.
open you'll be second or third in line and you go and you get what you want and you eat that
for breakfast and then you go back through the line and you get more brisket and ribs and
sausage and you wrap it up and you take that back to austin you eat that for lunch and probably
dinner it's some sort of perpetual motion barbecue machine
Ms. Tutsi, the 80-year-old pit master, she's amazing.
I don't, by the way, I like that in barbecue places, it's a compliment if you're like,
yeah, the main implement for cooking this is burned down several times.
That's only made it better.
Well, because there's so much grease that accumulates, and you're not going to throw it away.
That's very valuable grease.
Needs to become part of the building, damn it.
That's right.
Ryan, do you have a question?
Yeah, this is an actual football question.
I know we're not supposed to do that.
But you did it while I was gone, so I don't care.
This is from Max Mersinger at Max plays music.
Are there too many schools playing football in Florida
for more than one to be good at any one given time?
I seem to recall a time when there were three really good ones.
That's true, but that time is not now.
The early 1990s.
That time is quickly becoming 20 years ago.
I was going to say
Don't say that Ryan
I don't want to hear that
I know I'm sorry I don't feel good about it
I don't want to face my own mortality
I think that answer is no
I just think they have to be competently managed
and that that's been an issue
at several of these major schools at any
given time be it Florida State
early Jimbo
late Bobby Bowden
be at the University of Florida
in the late Meyer period
and entire goddamn
damn will muschamp era god he was bad at his job he was really bad at his job how did people
better people pay him money to do that job this is the only reason i asked this this is to be
ridiculous i cannot believe people put him in charge of one program and then this happens every time
you're asking him about this i remember that the state of south carolina exists to make the
mistakes no one else thinks can be made you're like reverse neal armstrong you're going to find
that negative frontier and you're going to put your foot on it.
Andy, Andy, I want you to watch what I'm going to do here.
Hey, Spencer, do you know who won a BCS Bowl during the Womest Champ tenure?
George O'Leary.
Yeah.
Yeah.
At UCF.
George O'Leary.
Mm-hmm.
George O'Leary.
Gene Chisick won a national championship during the...
Brady Hoare.
Brady Hoke.
Last year of the Urban Meyer era.
Brady Hoke also won a...
I don't even want to talk about, I don't even want to talk about UM, getting away from their roots and, like, Miami-style corruption.
Don't ever do that again.
Getting away, getting away from their roots and hiring an alum?
That's right.
Always hire an alum.
Hire the most corrupt alum.
Dang it.
Dang it, they hired, like, think about that.
They hire the wrong one.
You want them to hire Warren Sapp, don't you?
For a year, yes.
Or Lamar Thomas or.
Lamar, Tom.
Just hire.
Irvin.
Irvin would be the play.
Irvin would be the play.
He would definitely, he would definitely somehow get them like a, all of the
tax benefits that go to churches.
They'd be like, wait, did you file for those for the football team?
You can't.
No, that's definitely, you can't just make the stadium a house of worship.
That's what it is.
Oh, you know, yeah, we call it the crucible of fire now.
It's no longer Sun Life Stadium.
Can I remind you what that would be?
It'd be tax-free, right?
Yeah.
We got that, yeah.
It would be.
Oh, wait, it already is tax-free.
Oh, that's right, because it's a non-profit.
Remember, the DOJ has solved all other problems, including non-profit organizations that play football and do not pay their labor.
This is, this is, this just makes me wonder why Creflot Dollar hasn't started up a football program yet.
Creffle Dollar would have the best football program.
Can you imagine?
That's who Miami should have hired.
And that would mean head coach Taffy Dollar.
All right.
So would that mean, okay, so Creffalo Dollar will obviously be the Georgia coach.
But if we hired, if we had someone, because I think prosperity gospel preacher as college football coach, really, I mean, there's something to that.
Yeah.
since they're already about five of them now.
Yeah.
But so Creffle-Dar would coach Georgia.
Yeah.
Benny Hen would coach Florida.
Joel Osteen would coach Texas.
Oh, man.
Texas is taking that swap in a heartbeat.
Oh, yeah.
There are a lot of Texas fans out there who would trade Charlie Strong for Osteen right now.
I will tell you what, Osteen.
Osteen will do what Texas always does, which is make a profit.
boy's going to make a profit he's already wears the little coach's headset right and i dare you if
you put on joel ostein talking and mac brown talking over a football game there won't be much difference