Shutdown Fullcast - Shutdown Fullcast 4.34: Week Two Reviewed With 15 Mins of Solid Hatin'

Episode Date: September 12, 2016

Week Two's review is, like the week itself, far more interesting than advertised, even if it did drive Verne Lundquist to openly ask for distraction during the death throes of the Kentucky/Florida game. (Death throes = anything past the first quarter.) TOPICS: --How Jason just skipped this whole weekend and almost cried when Andre 3000 came out for "Black Ice" at the Dungeon Family reunion show --Maybe we discuss Kentucky football too long, but also come up with a fascinating solution to Kentucky's problems with an impending showdown with Alabama? (Don't go, and pass the savings on to your fans!) --The thousand ways Louisville quarterback Lamar Jackson is not real right now --Ryan finds the saddest scene from Illinois State/Northwestern, which is quite an accomplishment --A suggestion for new rivals for Penn State since Pitt is unfit to be their rival despite losing to the Panthers 42-39 this weekend --A review of the hilarity of Arkansas football and the brutal and irritating ways they found to antagonize TCU --OH WE GET TO TALK ABOUT GEORGIA ALMOST LOSING TO NICHOLLS AND HOW NICK CHUBB DIDN'T HAVE 100 YARDS AGAINST NICHOLLS --A detour into the disastrous ending of Washington State/Boise State where no one wanted to win the game --A review of the Navy/UConn game, where UConn definitely did not want to win the game, and threw 15 seconds into the trash because time is free, and points are something you can pull out of your pocket after the game and apply retroactively --How Tennessee scored 45 points and still looked worrisomely bad on offense against Virginia Tech, aka how we really don't want to see Josh Dobbs get hurt this season --Central Michigan shouldn't have won, and did, and if it's Monday we just kicked you in the balls again, Oklahoma State fan --Nick Saban, furious after a 38-10 win where Western Kentucky's QB politely decided to "leave the game" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the shutdown forecast. We are reviewing week two, and we have many, many things you talk about, despite believing that coming into week two, we would have very little to talk about. As usual, we were incorrect. Upsets, near upsets, mediocrity, excellence, the entire Bulyabase that you have come to expect from a weekend of college football, all present here joining us. The introductions are repetitive but necessary. I'm Spencer Hall, I'm editor at large for SB Nation and creator.

An editor of Every Day should be Saturday. Can we make that editor at 200 to 700 pounds? Editor at questionably large. Yeah, editor at Old Navy Large. Editor at Vaguely Large. Old Navy Large, which may fit anything from small potbellied pig to tapir. It can fit anything in between. Joining me from Kennesaw, Georgia, hey, Jason Kirk.

editor of our college football side at SB Nation what were you doing yesterday well I was watching the end of Texas Tech Arizona State that was when college football started yesterday right that was that was all I saw yep that's that's all you saw every game involves giving up 400 Russian yards yep yeah I we did a little little coverage experiment we mentioned it on the last podcast but I sat out this Saturday took one for the team wanted to be there had no intention of being anywhere else

but you know we just just to try this out we would let the young folks run the show for a Saturday I went I went to a music festival that happened to be Dungeon Family Reunion they happened to bring out Bone Crusher and Killer Mike and T.I.

And Erica Baidu and you know I sure I endured that that's fine that's fine a couple questions I'm going to ask them real quick one they had everyone present for liberation didn't they? Yeah they did they did they did did you cry uh no i'm gonna be real honest i i don't remember the last time i cried um i almost cried

during black ice i've seen that song i've seen him do it three times now this one i don't know it almost got me i almost cried in public uh black ice when during andre's verse which is probably my favorite 30 seconds of music ever but uh that was the closest i got okay that's great that's not college football but i'm glad you did it uh ryan nanny joining us from beautiful Brooklyn, New York. How are you? I'm good. I'm fine.

I didn't do any of that. I sat on the couch next to Dan Rubenstein and we watched. I mean, is it wrong that I look at what happened on Saturday and I say, yeah, there was a lot of exciting games. That's because a lot of teams played like shit. Question, Ryan, when you sat down next to Dan and you watched Kentucky play football, did you cry? No, no, it was, I mean, why would I cry at something that's? been happening for 29 years like that's like saying do you you know those people who are like oh you should every day is a blessing like you can't live that way because you just sort of have to

establish your bare minimum and and take life's ups and downs from there and florida's bare minimum is being kentucky bad years good years doesn't matter we beat kentucky did you did you did you not though okay now i will tell you that you and i we're at this point we've developed an adult allergy You know, when somebody accidentally just becomes randomly, like, provoked by the presence of watermelons. I think of it is a protective exoskeleton we've developed, but I get what you're saying. Go ahead. Sure, sure. We've got a callous, okay?

And that callous has been worn thick and hard against the notion of hope that anything will ever change or improve. Yeah. It's a protective instinct, and I think a really good one. however watching florida play kentucky yes in the 3 30 slot on cbs with vernon gary because it was that kind of like sort of really that kind of scheduling week for the cc yeah it was not a good one but watching florida actually this is the thing if you're a good team you will not only beat bad teams you will annihilate them in a surgical fashion and this is one of the first times like maybe since the old missus game last year when I can say this was clinical this wasn't even personal we are

Florida ran the ball I know I guess I guess a deplorable Kentucky team but all I can ask of you is that you take a very bad team and you don't let them make you look very bad in Florida

fingers crossed and I am no I am cursing the wrath of an angry God that hates me and wants me dead but Florida looked okay they looked okay big stuff

as I understand it they looked more than okay they had as many interceptions as what are you doing no I Kentucky might just be ass Kentucky might just be a hot oh man that Kentucky team

yeah but what was it what 457 that's what happens when ass runs into okay yeah I guess so I mean you say that but Florida struggle with UMass which literally is is

ass. Umass is good. Okay. I guess with you combine Miami and ass, you get UMass. I'm sorry. Now,

was this the game? I saw some tweets. Um, Vern was like just openly bored with this game. He basically asked for stories. He said, if you could just email some stories in. It sounds like the,

the 1980s Braves broadcast on TBS, where whichever, whichever, I can remember which one, it would just, just openly trashing the Braves and their sponsors and just... Hey, Don, let's go to...

Hey, Don Sutton, why don't you tell us about your favorite motels in St. Louis and the St. Louis metropolitan area? Yeah. It was that bad. It was that bad. Byrne was on air saying, oh, if anybody can send me illegal streaming links to the new Star Trek movie or even hell, even Independence Day resurgence, I'll take it. Who's got the link to the seam punk fight?

That at least was short, Kentucky. yeah i was going to say man that was over in two minutes it was as competitive but brief let me let us let us praise a few people and say a couple of things about people who look really good look good man you threw for 320 yards i didn't know we had that many yards yeah uh luke del rio threw a lot of a lot of deep balls that you know how there are a lot of college football quarterbacks who are like i should throw the deep ball because that's a and then it's just like, all right, well, the deep part you got, not so much the where it was supposed to go or catch a bowl or anywhere in bounds.

Luke Del Rio actually has a little bit of touch when he throws the ball down field. He does. I was stunned. By the way, did you react like I did when you saw a combatant deep ball, which was on the couch, bolted up and say, what is that? Yeah, it was weird. It was real weird. Yeah, I was stunned. I didn't know that was legal.

Yeah. Are we really going to talk this much about this game? It just seems to no seemly. This is a Kentucky football podcast. Hi, if you're just now joining us. Each week we gather to talk for one hour about the latest Kentucky game. Welcome to Blue Bayou. Why is the Bayou in the name?

I'm not sure. Bebe in here. I just got to get this off. Mitch Barnhart and Mark Stoves, they're out of excuses. They're out of time. We need to get Coach Cal in here to take over this program. That might be true. I want to play a quick game of who does Kentucky play in the immediate future.

Coming up, they are probably going to get their first win against New Mexico State. So that's fun. Probably. New Mexico State, the best team in New Mexico. They did beat New Mexico, and I couldn't believe that. I hedged for a reason, believe me. but then we have what is going to be if you're looking for a

where did it all go wrong for Mark Stoves what was the what was the first nail in the coffin because I don't think it's the Florida game the Florida game might just end up being yeah Florida's better than people thought this year and again no Kentucky coaches beat Florida in the last 30 years

in case you miss that that's 3.0 30 wouldn't that be a loss to southern miss it really sort of started this viral yeah the Southern Miss one yeah but let me... Yeah, the coffin could have about nine nails in it.

Let me give you this. There's a lot of nails in this coffin, man. Week four, week four. If you want to pin of Stoops down, you're going to need more than two nails. Week four at home. Kentucky plays South Carolina. Beautiful.

No, no, now I'm morbidly curious. Six to five. Yeah. I think, I mean, if Mark Stubbs loses that game, that means he's, one and three, assuming they be New Mexico State, before they go on the road to Alabama. Good God. Why is that?

Oh, yeah. Nick Saban was already mad about having to play one team from Kentucky. Are there any two in-state rivals so far apart right now as Kentucky and Louisville? Can I just one quick recommendation for Kentucky? Don't go to that game. Just don't go. Which one? Which one?

Be more specific. I literally don't know Bama or Louisville If you can only sit out one Which one do you set out Bama? No, don't go No, that's gonna hurt Definitely don't travel to that game

Don't go Don't go to Tuscaloosa To watch Kentucky get its head caved in No, no I'm telling the team not to go I thought this was a same thing Okay No

Of course they were out in week one Bartle be the wild Bartle be the wildcat. I would prefer not to, Alabama. That's it. This isn't a forfeit. I can't help what my decisions are going to become in other people's hands. Sure. I just think in order to assert yourself against the arbitrary whims of the universe, your only allies will. And in this case, you need to have the will to just say, I'm going to skip the Alabama trip, pocket the savings, and pass them on to you, Kentucky fan, okay? Absidence-only education doesn't have to just be about sex. no you can just decide not to go to alabama and my favorite part about this it would probably damage

alabama's strength of schedule irreparably because the only thing that they got one free they got one free game they got one free game remember the only thing that could damage your strength of schedule worse than playing one of the worst kentucky teams i've ever seen is not playing them brilliant that is some war that is some war game shit damn would you like to play a game would you like to play

would you like to play UK yes yes I would bomb the hell out of them yeah why don't you listen maybe just sub out damn Matt Matthew Rotterig

through for 380 on Kentucky he's old Louisville is the other program in the state of Kentucky and if you were home Friday night I hope you watch Lamar Jackson play football because I would like to read you his statistics

I don't care who he's playing by the way I don't because I will tell you the other running back the other runner in the back field had 156 yards that's pretty amazing he didn't have 4 TDs though

he didn't have 190 yards on the ground from the QB spot he did not in fact hurdle a Fender on the way to the end zone, which he pretty much just waltzed into at least twice. I mean, waltzed, as in a beautifully timed classical dance step. He also passed for 411 yards and a TD. Lamar Jackson is not human right now, not in any sense of the word. And as you mentioned on Saturday, it could have been more.

It could have been way more. His receivers dropped, what, like eight passes? His receivers fumbled at least twice And dropped like I think I can count like in my head They dropped at least four passes that would have gone for like 150 yards Like big plays They were not nickel and diming against Syracuse They were heaving the ball down field

This is without playing full games by the way And taking a breather early At this point Lamar Jackson is I mean the phrase video game numbers is a cliche But no this is with you easy setting when you've gotten the dynasty on NCAA five or six years in and you can just take the pick of the litter and then cheat by making them your bonus player right who has 99s and everything right now he's thrown for seven TDs against one pick he's got 697 yards passing okay

that's that's impressive all by itself but no there's more because in addition to that this is ridiculous he's got 318 years yards rushing in two games and six TDs. He's a running back and a quarterback all by himself. And that's including the profile of running quarterback. It's nuts. And I want to tell you, too, Syracuse did not play that badly. They really didn't.

Louisville's potentially terrifying. I think my favorite stat, probably my favorite stat for the whole season, I can't imagine anything topping this is he set out the whole second half of the Charlotte game. And ha, ha, ha, yes, it's Charlotte. Okay, hang on. I'll get to that in a second. So in his first 60 minutes of the season, he put up 13 touchdowns. The only team to come anywhere near that in its first 60 minutes was Ohio State, which had 11.

Ohio State has 110 people. Lamar Jackson is one. And you can say, well, the competition. Well, okay, he's played two FBS teams. Yes, believe it or not, Syracuse is an FBS. Some teams have played FCS teams. Man, we haven't made our Syracuse. He has played harder competition than half the country has, and these are the numbers.

He could probably sit out two weeks and still be the touchdowns leader. I think he's clinched the September Heisman Trophy. Yeah, if you do not get the chance to watch him, change your life. Alter something. Quit a job. Go watch him right now. You are going to get the chance to watch him this week. Coming up, but we'll talk about that.

later in the week. Hey, can I share with you the sad... How long did we talk about Kentucky before Ryan breaks us off subject? Looks like 17 minutes. Okay, go ahead, Ryan. I want to talk to you about the saddest thing that happened, this. The saddest group pair, the saddest pair of people from this weekend in college football. I'm going to let you, I'm going to let you both guess, and I already know you're going to be wrong. Who do you think the saddest pair of people were this Saturday in college football? The saddest pair.

Yeah. Vern and Gary. Now we're talking about Kentucky again. They were bored. They weren't sad. Oh. Sad. I'm going to go Gary Patterson.

Okay. And the twin that he absorbed in the womb that still lives. Yes. That's a good guess as well. Quato. Yeah. Quato. No.

Here's the saddest pair of people in college football this weekend. Northwestern played. Northwestern played Illinois State at home. Northwestern lost to Illinois State by the score of 9 to 7. I'm on the ESPN page for this game right now, and the first video in their carousel has the following caption. Northwestern fan gets proposed to on the field. And there is a picture of the woman,

who was proposed to, holding the screaming slash homeloning her face with her hands. And if you take it only in the context of she just got engaged, you're like, she's happy. But then if you just look a little bit up on this webpage and you see Illinois State 9, Northwestern 7, you're like, no, she's not. No, she's not. This, I mean, look, Northwestern losing to Illinois State is something Northwestern fans have to kill. with them forever. And look, obviously Florida has its own version of this

game, and you can't escape it. It is shingles. It lives inside you, even if it's dormant. Flares up. But you know, especially if you get near FSU Twitter. But you know what? You know what I didn't do during the Florida Georgia

Southern game? You know what Spencer didn't do? You know what most Florida fans didn't do? Tie that game to one of, suppose, the happiest, most connected moments in your personal life. Like, these two poor people. What were you doing during that game?

I was not watching it. I was in the office, not watching it and not getting engaged. Yeah, you know what I was doing? What? I was doing maybe the most appropriate thing for any Florida fan to do. I was drinking hard and doing shots of doubles

and Stillwater Oklahoma. That's perfect. It came on and I was like, pay porn it. Let's do this. But if you know these two people, if they're out there, please send me their registry. I feel obligated to buy them a wedding gift, assuming they go forward with it, because I would not blame you if you said, yeah, we got engaged on the day that Northwestern lost to Illinois State. And I feel like that's a sign that this is not a thing we should do, not right now.

And I would point out the Big Ten overall had a pretty decent week. We don't get to bag on them yet as hard as we did the SEC in week one. Right, because Pitt's a Big Ten team, right? It is now. It is now. Maryland's out. Let's agree that Pitt has a Big Ten coach. He just may not know it.

He's got an Italian name. He's got a Big Ten haircut. Everyone kind of hates him. Their entire playbook is just interesting runs. Yeah, but they had to go to the SEC to get a quarterback. The ultimate shame. It's not like the SEC was doing anything with him. No, you put him out on the curb for you go to home.

Pat and Arducey was like, you look cold, puppy. You want to come inside? You want to hand off a little? You want to hand it off a little? Good boy. Good boy. Bring it here. Give it back.

Let's get give it back. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. Dog's don't throw. Dogs don't throw. Dogs don't throw it. Yeah. Nathan Peterman threw three TDs.

Didn't get over 100 yards passing, but that's fine because when you got James Connor and Quadry Henderson working behind you, oh, good things are going to happen. Pitt, pit, hail, too pit. It was spilimus, indeed. Because Pitt beats Penn State 42 to 39. And my favorite thing about this,

and it is grand and I was guilty of it and I don't know if guilty is the right word complicit I was definitely complicit complicit by the way Penn State fans you should look that up

wow and we're gonna get letters great thanks oh yeah yeah somehow whew so but yeah again let's go to bud dot elliot at Scott Fetrano has just tweeted

family statement coming in. By Mark Reisman on Onwardstate.com, Penn State deserves a better rival than Pitt. Oh, Jesus Christ, this was amazing. Two days before the game, Pitt in its current state, is not a worthy rival for Penn State. Its current state is Pennsylvania, in which it is the best college football team at the moment. I'm just going to share a few highlights. But right now, any rivalry with Pitt feels one-sided. Yeah, it kind of does.

And it does right now, certainly. Here, this is the other thing. This is my favorite sentence. Again, while history isn't everything, to beat a school like Penn State, which has only had five losing seasons since World War II, and to play a team with five losing season since 2005, makes it feel like a win this week would be par for the course.

And a loss, while embarrassing, would do not. Nothing to prove Pitt is the better program. Might need to check the theorems. Check the calculations there. I mean, I don't have a prestigious big 10 degree, sir, but I think watching your defensive

line get knocked three feet in the dirt by Pitt's O line for most of the game and be unable to defend a simple fly sweep out of the slot. I mean, it's a trend. It's the start of a trend. Look, I know we're not looking ahead, and I know we already did this with Kentucky, but if you want a rival to talk about for Penn State, he's just got to wait a week.

They get to get that revenge matchup against Temple. Rutgers is right there. What's your recent Maryland series, Penn State? Is it like one in one? I know that's been a competitive rivalry as of late. Lots of options. That, I am, I am, I am, I'm going to be able to. feel so conflicted when

Penn State goes to Michigan on September 24th at this point. Yeah, are they still honoring Joe Paterno before the Temple game? It's still on the schedule. Still on the schedule? Still on the schedule? Okay, I just I'm not saying, this is fact.

Still doing that, okay. Cool. Who is it the Purdue game? Who knows? Yeah, Purdue. They're all the same. Purdue, who also lost this week. God bless it. Not important.

Darryl Hazel's on that eight-year plan. But hey, congratulations to Tommy Tuverville. You didn't give Purdue that scalp. Spencer, I'm going to ask you a question that specifically praise on Jason's absence for most of the Saturday. What is the one game that Jason or anybody else who didn't watch it just wouldn't understand based on just the final score? I have several One TCU Arkansas Okay

And how it happened Because if I just showed you the score 4138 It's a shootout Nope Nope nope nope Not how this happened It's a shootout where each side

Had several gun jams Several prolonged I believe that's called a shoot in Yeah Yeah This was This was a game that was decided in large part by two huge haymakers thrown at the end, a blocked field goal, and an OT series where, by the way, we get to OT, because Arkansas, this is why they're fun to watch. Because they just kind of hate everything, and it's glorious.

They're just big, fat, mean, and they're smart asses. Like Brett Bealma is a complete smart ass, and that's really fun to watch because for the two-point conversion, Austin, Allen hands off to the running back and they're running back. Like, it's on this crazy, like, reverse, right? Or an end around on the motor. Like, it's, you have to watch it. It's not, it's not a play that you would be looking at and call an obvious two-point conversion play.

Normally, those are, like, good, like, run-pass option or sort of, like, quick, you know, pass that the defense isn't quite ready for it. Nope, this is, like, end-around, trick play. They throw to Austin Allen for the two-point conversion. It's clearly designed to just piss you off. That's it. It wasn't designed because, oh, it works. Yeah, it might work.

Oh, yeah, none of it was like, this is our, this gives us our best chance. Nope. No, this is the thing that will stick in your eye the longest. Hey, oh, watch this. It'll burn. You'll be so mad about this. Hold on. I'm going to stick the switchblade in vinegar real quick.

That's the best part about watching Arkansas play is that you get the idea that Brett Bielandma wants people to look back at the game tape and just get madder. Yeah. Yeah. To just watch it and say, Do you have to? Yeah, he had to. He absolutely had to. He and Jim Harbaugh have that in common.

That's a hell of a football team over there, and the wounds won't close. I made sure of that. I respect them so much. I made sure to maim them. I sewed an explosive inside their stomach. I went ahead and tattooed myself on their hind parts. Woo pig.

It's beautiful. Their wives will really appreciate it. The most beautiful thing they've ever seen in their bedroom. That is exactly what this game was like. And like Gary Patterson, Gary Patterson is going to be mad about this game for the next decade. Oh, but then you've left out that it wasn't, it wasn't as simple as Arkansas has this crazy two-point conversion. No, they- Oh, no, this is like an eight, this is an eight-part saga. Yeah.

What happened next, Spencer? So they have this two-point conversion, right? And Cavante Turpin, who you should not kick to. And this is, again, like Arkansas is really likable. Yeah. Yeah, don't kick to him. It's dumb. Don't kick to him because he's brilliant.

He's awesome. He had 126 yards receiving. He was electric. He had at least he had 136 yards in kick returns alone. And he returns punts. He just don't, he's like 155 pounds. And he's just built of, like, discount lightning. He's amazing.

And they kicked the ball to him. Because Arkansas, in addition to being the kind of, like, super antagonistic brawny, mean football team, sometimes they're not that bright, which is one of the things that makes them really charming. They just kick the ball of the Kvante interpreter because they're like, yeah, we can defend that. Oh, shit, we can't. And he gets, they get the ball into field goal position. And then Ryan, how do they manage to block this field goal? With what tool and implement do they do this? Oh, they bring out nature's most awesome and terrifying athlete.

The tall lineman. The tall lineman reaches up. Is this the 610 guy? Yeah. Dan Skipper. Yeah. They bring out Dan Skipper, who you saw last year being shoved down for a penalty by Robert Kanditi. Dan Skipper, who is 610 319, pure Colorado muscle, goes out there and blocks.

The thing. And when they show Dan Skipper, Twitter lit up because they showed him on the sidelines. And it was instantly full of people going, yeah, that dude is 40. No way, he's not 40. Listen, he's sending back money to home. It's fine. He's just trying to settle down and put a little something away for the grandkids. Like he's never stopped growing.

Yeah, essentially. It's very, very, very slowly. When he's 50, he'll be 6.11. No, like, like, this is, this is Brett Bilemez. is like the Hagrid of college football. Like, you're an exotic and a huge beast. You should come live with me. But yeah, that's how they, that's how they managed to block it.

It's with the 610 dude and the poor freshman kicker. Imagine this. TCU's freshman kicker rolls out to do this. And he looks up and he sees a 40-year-old like... He kicked it into a tree. He kicked it into a damn tree. He sees a 40-year-old Game of Thrones character. Like a Russian mafia enforcer.

It's into an int. Yeah, and you're just like, you're this freshman kicker who weighs, you know, 160 pounds, and you kick it into an ant. You can't blame me. That's 610. How am I going to kick over Dwight Howard? You got to hook it. Yes. I got to take this like a, like a messy taking a free kick, man.

I got to put it around. You take like a sand wedge, I think. Yeah, I got a pinniquet. You got to sort of lay it flat. Really get to chip it over him. You're not even trying to hit the ball. You're just trying to get under the ball. Like, if you have someone that tall, I think you should be legally permitted in football to kick off a platform.

Or that or pump fake. You should be able to pump fake with the leg. Like, eh. Stutter stuff. You could go on all night. Yeah. No, I mean, we should have a clock on it, right? Five seconds.

Right. So maybe you do like, it's a, you know, like you go to a basketball game and there's like the line of dudes jumping off trampolines and they're throwing the ball back. you never know which one's going to actually dunk it. Do you just have a row of kickers and they're all taking fake swings until he gets tired? You just do it like we do on kickoffs where one guy runs up and takes the fake kick at it. Yeah, the old fake onside kick. Yeah. And then you have like four people blocking.

That would be fine. Yeah, this was a, this was a whale of a game, though. It was pretty good. And then the finale just ramped up to ludicrous. So well done by both teams. Like both teams are fun to watch. I like to TCU. They kind of pissed away

a lot of their chances in the first half in this and came back to bite them in the ass but both fun teams. I have like early season I'm pretty much like I am with dogs. You're like, that's a good dog.

That's a real good dog too. It pissed a little bit, but it's new. It's okay. It'll learn. That's what, that's a good dogs too. That's a good dog. You'll get it.

There's a treat anyway. Unless you're Kentucky. I'm like, that's a bad dog. You need to. send that to a farm. Sad dog. It's different. Sad, the saddest dog. Anyone, by the way, Ryan, that you look at and you go, oh, man, before this goes over

the horizon, please let us praise the fine work done by this team. And or a person? This is going to be weird. Because you know, like, the last 10 minutes of this podcast, just reserved for hating. That's all we're going to do is absolutely hate on everybody who underachieve and just laid an egg. Is it okay that I don't have. anything um meaningful to say here but wake forest is two and no yeah the dekes can i can i ask you can i just if the viewer did not see it yeah uh the notoriously anemic wake forest

offense who outscored two lane was it seven three in the opener seven three in the opener yeah seven three in the opener setting a torrid pace yeah yeah well i'm they scored 24 points man slow down They scored 24 points. They had almost 400 yards of offense, scored three touchdowns on the ground. Are they ill? Had a 62-yard catch. I don't know how that happened. Like I said, I don't necessarily have meaningful things to say about this, except I am excited to see Mr. Clausen get a job he is definitely not qualified for on the strength of, let's call it a 6.5.

win wake season six six wins at wake though man that'll get you a lot of jobs you know what i think we get in the tennessee job you know what game is now looming is very interesting wake versus army on october 29 because army army is also two and oh army beat rice they're two and o army they got the godfrey bump so i did i just want you if you if you are a fan of a team that's not two and oh and that's a lot of you out there including jason's uh cow bears uh you're

worse than wake an army congratulations i thought you're gonna tell all those folks stop listening all broke folks get out the mentions oh your team not two and no can't relate yeah don't know what i can't imagine what that's like yeah um but also yeah also we will mention yeah cow lost san diego state boom um um um um um what he got uh um what he got what he got what he got what we got uh well we already we already discussed this on twitter as noted um losses that count after AP voters are asleep, do not actually count. So Cal is 1 and 0. Sure.

I take pride and being the only Heisman voter who actually watches West Coast football, I dare you to prove me wrong. Although that is also... I think the evidence will be... The evidence will be when, like, a Hawaii player has a Heisman vote. The fact that Spencer is the only one who watches West Coast football is also why we didn't record this podcast on time today. So there's that.

That's true. It's definitely true. Because, hey, it's not my fault that the Pac-12 plays really long football games, and they kicked it 10. They did. Okay. They kicked it 10. They did.

Speaking of one of those games that kicked at 10, by the way, if we're just going to go ahead. Also handing out plot it's. Kaelin Belage. Hoo. So many touchdowns. All time. College football record for times entering the end zone during a game. Tied it.

Yes. And he did it in one of my favorite fashions, which was vulturing credit yardage from a teammate, like the best. because they actually like Arizona State not only had had him carrying the ball, but they had Richard carrying the ball as well. Richard, yeah. And so they, he would, you know, take some of the carries, and then they just kept giving the ball to him. Because he's in the goal line, they have a package set up for him,

and they just handed off to him. It was like some serious great Mike Allstott style. In fact, Kael and Belage only had 13 carries. But, but thanks to a 75-yard run, he averaged 10.5 yards on those carries. That's right. DeMari Richard actually, like, DeMari Richard had 30 carries, 30.

Which if, man, that's a lot. Yeah, that is a lot. And he had zero TDs. I think I've given it to Plage at the colon. That's my favorite. Thank you for getting us this far. We're going to finish him off. Belage, let's bring in Belage for this.

So, yeah, nonetheless, a stellar record, a great achievement, it against Texas Tech. Remember, you can say that in college football. It's a great thing that you did, even if you were playing Texas Tech's defense when you did it. So well done, Kailin Blasch. Also, I would like to shout out the Mighty Buffalo.

I don't know if you've seen this, but if you're familiar with how bad Colorado has been, Colorado is 2 in L right now. With a win over bitter rival Colorado State, yes. And with the outmaned, I believe, Idaho State this week. But nonetheless, that's 2-0, Colorado. We're going to get to 6 wins. We're going to get you to 6 wins.

Idaho State, yes, they'd be them 56-7. But Cephal LaFal, I'm already prepared. I've talked about this on Twitter before, but Cephal LaFal, I'm prepared to remember you was way better than you ever were just because I liked you. I love college quarterbacks like that. You're like, oh, man, that guy. That guy is incredible. Cephal LaFal, I can't believe he wasn't successful in the NFL.

Also not 2-0, Arizona, although it's not because they lost this week, they just needed a... They just needed 28 unanswered points in the second half to beat Grambling by 10. Nearly a banner day for HBCUs as North Carolina A&T knocked off Kent State in, I think, quadruple overtime after a lightning delay. That's a little way you're going to beat Kent State, son. You need lightning. You have to use the lightning against them. Yeah. Somehow they're weak against lightning.

You never expect that. Any other plot that's or positives before we move on to my favorite thing, Hayden. Now, let's just start Hayden. Oh, man. I have so much hate to direct toward Georgia. So much. I have some defenses of Georgia to offer. That's good because Georgia doesn't.

Woo! Woo! Look at that don't. Nick Chubb had 80 yards against Nichols. Nichols. Now, I know Nichols. And that's not like, oh, Nick Chub played, you know, had nine carries and then went out because he tweaked a hamstring or something. That's on 20 touches.

Yeah, they needed him. Yeah, formerly Nichols State. A place that does have, admittedly, transfers, people who. did make it out of the programs, some unheralded local talent. Sure, sure, sure. Nichols State, uh,

Nichols, sorry, formerly Nichols State has that. Sure. Uh, at one point they were leading Georgia. Yeah. Not a, not a good FCS program, to be clear. No, no. This is not Richmond beating UVA, right? This is not Eastern Washington beating Washington State.

This is not UNI beating Iowa State. No, no, no. This is Georgia ranked nine. nine in the country struggling with the Nichols Cunnels and probably like and probably by the way like

had they not had some quarterback issues I don't know might have won this game Nick Chubb struggled I mean I don't know if Nichols if Nichols gets a third down stop at the end of the game they at least get a chance

to kick a field wheel and beat Georgia at home which I don't know I don't know man we're not playing we're not we're not playing this at nickels by the way this is in Athens yeah just in case it was not a real game at the nickel dome so so here here's the defense to offer if you're a perplexed georgia fan um three of the four nickels scoring drives started at or inside the georgia 30 and it's hard if you're a defense to keep a team off the board in that instance. That said, possession is not awarded by randomly throwing dice and deciding where a team is going to start.

There is a reason they started with such wonderful field position on multiple drives, including late in the game. So there's also that. It feels, I really appreciate that it feels like nothing has changed at Georgia. This is such, this is a, like, I feel like I'm in a, an, an, art heist movie and this is where we're like oh this isn't a mark ricked but whoever did this is like copycatting him perfectly yeah we need to find this mastermind look at the brush strokes you see they're just they're a little heavy but it's definitely reminiscent of early

ricked i definitely picture kirby smart is a heavy painter yeah i don't know light light dabbling does this does this also go for who we always said Kirby Smart probably resembled more than anybody else. I don't know, barely beating inferior competition at home while struggling offensively. Wow. Leaning on defense, yeah, special teams didn't play

super well, yeah. Got the same haircut. You got the same butt cut, even though you make millions of dollars a year, you still got a trash haircut. Hey, let's talk about South Carolina, Mississippi State. Yeah, that's right, Mississippi State. Lost to South Alabama

last week. You will see this. in EDSBS, the magazine, which will be up by the time you see this podcast. South Carolina upped its offensive point total this week and yet lost instead of one. So I think the answer there is keep going down. Instead of trying to score more points, try to score fewer points and see if you can win three zero. That happens. You can win two zero. I feel like South Carolina is in a game of Street Fighter 2 starting, or is it Mortal Kombat

where you start at the bottom and work your way up the ladder? Yeah. And like they've found their ceiling already. They started with, they started with, you know. They beat Glass Shaw, Joe. That's the best analogy, yeah. Yeah. They beat Glass Joe, and then they lost to the French guy.

And, okay, well, now you need the game, Jeannie, South Carolina. And you can't afford it. I'm sorry. Yeah, that would be, by the way, the score at half was 24-0, 24-0 to zero. I wasn't aware of that. Yeah. Yeah, and they put in Brandon McIlwain, and he's their, He's their running quarterback, and he was slightly, slightly better.

I did enjoy how many tweets Spencer and I got that were like, oh, God, this is what it's like. We were like, yeah. We weren't, we weren't, listen, are Spencer and I melodramatic man babies? Absolutely. We weren't making shit up, though. No. It's not like, like I've watched Oregon games with Dan Rubinstein, and he'll piss and moan, even if Oregon wins by 25 because they didn't win by 45, because that's how he is.

and that's fine. We didn't make up any of this shit. Like, I remember walking into the office to see that Florida needed to block a punt to beat Louisiana Lafayette at home. That sticks in my mind. I can never be rid of it. I can't get, I can't get it out. Help me get it out. I mean, we are, we are cowards, and we lack fortitude and courage and the ability to endure.

but you know what we are like all podcasters that's right but you know what we aren't inaccurate no that's how it's going to be no whatever changes no one i'd say not liars not liars no the bear liars not like there are inaccuracies there are several inaccuracies we did not run into that burning building to save those children but we were right about how hot it was it's very it was exactly it'll be truthy it let me tell you uh no one ever learns no one ever improves no whatever changes it, everyone keeps making the same mistakes over and over again, that's Will Must Champ at South Carolina.

Enjoy it. It's going to suck. It might also be Washington State. Yeah, it might also be Washington State. Who, they coughed up another. The end of this game, and I wrote a note to myself that I would try to explain this at one point to the rest of the world who fell asleep

that Washington State got the ball back with, God, they got the ball back with a lot of time at this like I want to say a minute at least a minute and a half which in Washington State offensive time

it was like two days well to set it up it was what did Boise State do they had plenty of time to march down the field some more and then they just ah fuck it heaved it into the end zone and everyone just said

what the fuck was that you give Washington State all this time what are they going to do it and got picked yeah like all they needed to do was run the clock out and instead Boise State heaved ball up for no goddamn reason

they get picked so wazoo gets the ball back aha with 53 seconds needing a field goal at their own 20 after the touchback ample time touchdown to win yeah touchdown to win field goal tie 53 seconds and two time out ample time to get this to happen and uh at one point mike leach just fell asleep what what's really fun about this is if you look at the play by play on ESPN right now it's totally borked. This is what it says. First and 10 at the Washington State 40, 53 seconds left. Washington State completes a pass for eight yards. Second and two, 53 seconds left still. They complete a pass again for eight yards, get a first down. First and 10, 53 seconds left still.

Complete pass for no gain. Second and 10, 53 seconds still on the clock. Pass incomplete. 3rd and 10, 53 seconds left on the clock, pass complete for 9 yards, and then it says with 4 seconds left on the clock, there's a Washington State timeout. So if you just go based on this, you're like, wow, Wazoo really was moving the ball quick, and then they let 49 seconds run off the clock for no reason after a 9-yard pass on first down. Now, I will tell you, that's what it felt like. that's not accurate but that's what it felt like because i actually thought if you were watching the game you thought was going to just let the clock run out without getting another play and instead they insanely take they waste all of this time let it run off and then take a time out with four seconds left and then the pip of all tips there's a lot of discussion and argument

the refs go no i'm sorry can you reset it to five to five. Not that one second doesn't make a difference, Alabama fans, but still. Hey, zero seconds makes a different if you're an Oklahoma state fan, so. Uh-huh. But we will get there. Because Spencer, as bad as that was, it wasn't the worst clock management of Saturday. That honor belonged to...

Uh-huh. Yukon. Yeah. Yukon. Yukon Boston College The end of their game against Navy Yukon just declined To win

I mean They just got to the goal line And then said Actually We're fine So At the goal line Your options are

With no timeouts Right With no timeouts 17 seconds to play Second and goal At the Navy 1 Your options are Spike it

You know It doesn't help you, but it also doesn't hurt you because almost no time comes off the clock. What else? There's a lot of passionate discussion on whether you should or shouldn't do that. However, everyone agrees that it is an option and it, yes, probably wouldn't have hurt you here. You can kick a, you can do a fake field goal. It won't work because Navy will say, wait, there's no way you're actually kicking a field goal. But maybe, I don't know, it's interesting.

It's worth trying. Yeah, again, it's a stupid idea, but it's relatively harmless compared to what you could do. Yeah, you could throw the ball as hard as you can into the stance, also not productive, but won't likely run 17 seconds off the clock, and you'll get another shot. These are all terrible ideas, and they're better than what Yukon did, which is run for no gain, and the clock just for. ran out just just dwindled the way yeah my favorite part of this okay is this the game recap every now and then by the way you read a game recap and you go man ap stringer whoever put this together you did a you did a magnificent job with like glorious understatement oh yeah these are the people you want to speak at like your shitty uncle's funeral be like well yeah uncle david was

a mean drunk but there were times when he slept he was an uncharable man but but he was also poor he was also vindictive and poor uh yeah this is it yukon runs the play the running back goes into the pile he goes nowhere and then no lie there is confusion and at the five second mark yukon just begin shuffling off the field just like leaving like oh well and this is this is the this is the quote okay after johnson this is the yukon running back

was thrust into his own backfield the shipman had no intention of letting him return to the line of scrimmage am i being detained we practiced that linebacker daniel gonzalez said you just lay on the guy

until the ref pulls you off well here's huskies i'm sorry there's one thing you need to hear huskies coach Bob Diaco was at a loss to explain what transpired on the Connecticut sideline during the game's final seconds. He talked about the uncertainty of where the ball was placed, whether a pass call was a better call than a run, you think? And then the timeout call because the play clock was about to expire. And I quote, I am not complaining or making excuses.

I take full accountability. Diaco is just done with this. Yeah, just sign the police report. Yep, it's my fault. I'll call the insurance company. You're right. But here's what's super confusing about this. I could almost understand this if Connecticut had been running the ball all over Navy,

and they were sort of like, you know, we don't have a lot of confidence in our passing game. We feel like this is our best shot. Yeah, kind of is one shot. And it might fuck us in that regard. Even then, it's like just pass it. and you still have another down to run it on. But this is what Connecticut's offensive day was. Connecticut rushing, 34 carries for 90 yards.

That's less than three yards a carry. Passing the ball, they went 24 and 27 for almost 10 yards a pass. Like, I, why? Why? It's a good thing, Bob Diaco's pretty. Bob Diaco's super pretty, man. man he is like jimmy gropolo handsome he's an extremely handsome man i have a question about a game that i didn't see clemson what the fuck um morning around the time this up bill bill see will have

written sort of the uh one perspective but but give me what what y'all think i mean the good news the good the honest good news for clemson is that it could have been worse they turned the ball over three times in this game and even though it was a close game Not a single point that Troy put up came off of turnovers. They had to earn all of them. Yeah, and in addition to that, Troy got jobbed on a fumble return. I mean, there was, there was that. Yeah, I mean, it could have been, it could, it was a basically like, I think, a 14-point swing at that point in a game where points were really hard to come by.

It was, it was the Texas Iowa State thing, basically, from what, two, three years ago? that bad I mean it was roughly that bad yeah in terms of like what happened and whether or not the play was whistled dead and what should have trained yeah it was it was close I would say also I don't know if I don't know if Watson's pressing or not or if he just doesn't feel comfortable or what

but um been a little sloppy thrown like picks and looks like he's pressing at times still capable of make a beautiful throws through a beautiful touchdown pass uh but Clemson's making mistakes like Raybred McLeod totally did the eye flipped the ball at the one yard line. The Deshawn Jackson. He did that. I'm not even at the one. It was like as close as you can get without being in. Yeah. It was on a punt return. Here's what I think. I think Clemson was distracted because Troy's logo, the sort of like sword tea thing, looks like a golf tea. And they were all like, oh man, I'd love to get out.

What I wouldn't give to be out on the links. I got this new hybrid. I just love to just, oh, crack that puppy open. Yeah, I could take the big birthday out there, man. Get a couple beers in me. You know, my short game's gotten a lot better. Hell of a lot better. That's where you shave strokes, man.

That's where, and that's what Clemson was doing, going low. I like the idea that Clemson players, upon commitment, like, just immediately love golf. Like, they go from, like, listening to future to listening to Jimmy Buffett just immediately somehow. I think they're still in the stage where they listen to future on the golf course, right? That sounds fine. I mean, that sounds pretty, I would do that if I was

ever on a golf course, I guess. The good news is the Clemson defense is still really, really good. Yeah, it really is. Is it? It's kind of a lot of points. That's a lot of point. Yeah, but they, I mean, they held, they, Troy went two of 15 on third down.

Like, they, they did break one really nice play for a touchdown, but overall, I absolutely, through two games, if there's a side of the ball that I am not worried about at all for Clemson, it's the defense. The defense still looks really, really good. I would also like to point out a couple of mediocrities. Virginia Tech, I know you're working on stuff. I know. I know. It's underway. But man, after fumbling the ball a mess in their first game against Liberty, they did it again against Tennessee. and just handed Tennessee.

Like, Tennessee's got 45 points on the board, but if you check Bill's analysis, Tennessee looked out. They looked out hard. They got the ball in good spots throughout this game. Josh Dobbs, can I... Do you ever know how many passing yards he had? 91, I want to say.

91? Yeah, on 19 attempts. It was two for a really long time, right? I saw that tweet a lot. It just... Yeah. I mean, I've worn this one out on Wakeup College. football already. Josh Dobbs is the senior that you're most like, man, this guy looks great for a

sophomore. Oh, man, you know, a couple more years in this system. And he's really just going to get it click. And he's got the pure athleticism. I mean, the way he runs the ball. Once he learns how to make the, I mean, is it possible? Can Tennessee win a game where they have to throw the ball? I don't think so. Honestly, watching Josh Dobbs run for his life against Virginia Tech, I feel really good about the Florida game. I do.

Like straight up, I'm like, if he keeps throwing across his body and our defensive line is as good as I think they are and is like seven deep. He's in trouble. And the secondary is good and ball hawking and yeah. Yeah, I don't know if you have to do all that much on offense because they're just going to give you the ball. I mean. And, like, I like him. I'm worried. I mean, between

crap beat out of him. Between Florida, the road game at A&M, and they have some mean guys on the defensive line. Alabama, obviously. Like, there's. Miles Garrett? Yeah. Miles Garrett.

No, that's a bad. That's, I don't want to see that. When you're like, oh, man, I want to watch Miles Garrett work on Josh Dobbs. No, I don't. No, thanks. No, don't go. Save the money. Pulling Kentucky on Alabama.

Just don't go to that. It's weird. I mean, I will say Tennessee's offensive line played better, and the defense, you know, the defense is still pretty solid. Yeah, Jalen Hurd is still a nightmare. It's basically like, hey, go tackle this Ford Arrow Star. Cool? Have fun.

Yeah, Jailen Hurd is painful. He's a great running back. But this offense is still so one side. I just, I don't know, man. I really question how they can do this. Yeah. And how many turnovers did the Virginia Tech have in this game? They had five.

Five. Five to Tennessee's one. So is this result indicative of anything? No, Virginia Tech's going to be real good come November when they actually get their ball hand. Like they were pulling stuff on that, like they were pulling stuff like not having their ball handling down, right? On like basic fakes and motions and stuff. That'll fall in line. If they didn't have five turnovers, I'm pretty sure Virginia Tech would have won this game.

That's a big statement. when you go, well, if they didn't have five turnovers, right? But they looked, and a lot of times, they looked like a team with, like, more potential. With Tennessee, you go, I, Josh Dobbs is still throwing full flat across his body and not well. Not like Pat Mahomes, where you're like, that's all they've got. He can throw across his body and you just do it because he's an improv wizard and you let him do it. And that's the kind of offense you play. No, Dobbs is just heaving like arm punts across the field.

And that won't work. That won't work considering they play. two teams, I know, can make them pay for that. And that's Florida. Oh, and Alabama. Yeah, this was not, by the way, the coolest part about this game was Bristol because when you watch what was on the field, you're like, I'd just see trouble for both of these teams.

Yeah. Yeah, and that's without a race going on around the track as a massive missed opportunity, as I understand. Let's talk about what the hell happened with Central Michigan and Oklahoma State. Uh, yeah, so rules or rules, except when they're not, because they got a free play.

You do, and as I've always said, don't give central Michigan a free play. That's true. Because they'll take advantage of it. Those were John Quincy Adams dying words. Yeah. So this was maxon refs with big, hashtag big 12 refs, uh, replay booth. Is that the combo? That is correct.

That is deadly. Yeah. Uh, and, They totally, I mean, this is a surprisingly multi-layered thing, because if you didn't watch it, it's hard to explain. On their last offensive play of the game, Oklahoma State, leading by four, I believe at that point, throws the ball, just drops back, throws the ball as high and as far out of bounds as they can, on fourth down. clock expires while the ball is in the air it is ruled rightly intentional grounding and the

refs confer and they say well because the game cannot end on a accepted penalty by the I guess by the defense in this case that means

Central Michigan should get the ball and should get an untimed down that was wrong according to the letter of the rule right yeah whatever whatever they said on the field was wrong yeah whatever they said on the field was wrong and they immediately admitted so afterwards and and the big 12 replay comes in because this is one of the limited areas in which they have the i guess authority to step in and tell the mac officials hey you screwed it up and it's not they're actually not supposed to get a play here at all it is a little weird because it does seem odd that Oklahoma State can intentionally end the game on a penalty.

That's not usually, the rules are usually written to specifically preclude that. But that is the rule and they, man, they fucked it up bad. They fucked it up real bad. It almost feels like they got the spirit of the rule right then, right? I mean, the letter of the rule is wrong, but there's that and there's, I mean, look, there is also the fact that, yes, if Oklahoma State manages to actually defend this hook and this deep hook and ladder Hail Mary, which was awesome to watch live, especially because everybody, including Central Michigan's official Twitter account, had already said, oh, the game

is over and Oklahoma State won. It was great to watch, but if they stop that play, we are having this conversation in a much different context. That's a cop-out, but it's true. Here's the other thing. If you didn't watch this game, the go-ahead touchdown for Oklahoma State, was, I believe, scored on fourth and goal from, like, the two or the three or something. A flag was thrown for holding, and then I saw something I can't recall seeing in any college football game. The officials huddled, talked for, you know, 30 seconds, and then picked up the flag for holding. I don't know how or why that happens. I don't get it at all.

Maybe these were, like, intern refs. Well, no college credit for them. just send him a stillwater nobody will notice it'll be fine i um the uh the hail mary hook hook and hook and lateral play it was the exact same to the quarterback and tall receiver who caught it and lateraled it the same from the bahamas ball hail mary two years ago roger sherman pointed that out today like i think if you're playing cm u at this point you should know what's coming this is just proof by the way that excellent starts at the bahamas bowl and it just moves forward.

PJ Fleck knows that. PJ Fleck knows that. Living proof. Living proof of that. Although that Northwestern win does go down in value this week unfortunately. God damn it. PJ Flex's playoff

value is sinking. Is it? You fucking did Northwestern. So here's the thing I don't understand. The conventional wisdom seems to be, well, you can't overturn the result because this is just how it works

and yeah the refs fucked up and it wasn't even like a judgment fuck up it was a you read the book wrong fuck up um but everything stands central michigan wins if central michigan tomorrow we were like oh it turns out their quarterback was academically ineligible everybody will be like well then that result can't stand at all i mean we have to give that window oklahoma safe like it's very it's very fucking strange to me how this is a sport where so much many teams throughout its history have seen wins change to losses and this is like if you were actually like if you weren't covered by insurance for a surgery you died during right you got to come back or you couldn't come back but like if the doctor committed malpractice they're like nope

sorry yep we'll bring you back um yeah it's just it's just odd it's just odd i mean we took a damn heisman trophy away from somebody but when the refs bungal something this badly we're like nope Sorry, the result. The result is pure and perfect. And we can't, it's not even like, to me, it's not the Duke Miami ending because that was a bunch of judgment calls that they fucked up. This was like, it just shouldn't have happened. Well, yeah.

I'm always, I'm always okay with. You know, that was, that was probably the wrong call. But the outcome was side splitting. Yeah. Just going to let it stand. Yeah, this is a sport with many inconsistencies, including, like, when a game actually counts or not those of us who think anything that happens on the field is sacred and should count no matter what would oppose um you know rescinding wins later on it would also say

hey if the refs fucked up that's part of the game weather happens fumbles happen injuries happen if refs are terrible i mean i don't know guess you should have scored more points i just i just wonder is there any is there any level of fuck up where it would be so egregious that we would say no that doesn't count like if if a running back ran into the end zone without the ball. He never had the ball in the first place. And the refs signaled touchdown, would we be like, and on replay, they were like, yeah, we're upholding it.

There's not enough evidence to overturn the fact that he didn't have the ball. See, I was- And there were people pointing at the ball back at the time? Right. Like, at that point, would we say, no, that's too far? No, that sounds, I mean, I think if that happened, we would do a really good post on it and get a lot of traffic. Yeah, I would call, I always wanted to call.

play where you threw the Hail Mary and no matter what happened with the Hail Mary, right? A guy celebrated like he had caught it and then threw his shoe in the stands like it was the ball just to see if you could ball fake the ref into signaling touchdown and then just run off a field. So the whole bench

sprints after that guy and chases him into the locker room. Yeah, exactly. And you get on the bus and your coach is pre-doused. Like your coach dowses himself in Gatorade and the rest look at the coach like, well, i mean kentucky's not in this game they wouldn't who would prematurely douse a coach i'm sorry listen they were confident i just i just went with them they pretty they carried themselves like they won that should count the most actually part of my my favorite rule proposal which is like when it's a a dead ball foul or something like you know it it was this

a pass or a fumble just go with what the players think happened like if we don't know if it was an incompletion or a fumble well did the players run and pick up the ball like did they all you know in their course of immediate analysis did they think the ball is live then okay it's it's very philosophical its reality is what we all agree it is yeah

my favorite part of this play is that we need somebody to be the ball thief we need somebody to take the actual ball and hide it so you need one person who's immediately going to take that ball and then disappear

just leave the premises right do you just have a large linemen fall on it. You just pretend he's cramping. Yeah, I would give him the Pizman for that. Can I close with maybe the least and most important game of the week, which is

Alabama committing the most penalties it is committed in three years. Ooh. Yeah. I think Sabin's lost control of program discipline could be the end of the dynasty. Are you sure? Might want to step it up. This one, I mean, look, they brought in Sarkesian. Look what happens.

right out the window there USC East here this was a game this was a game where I like that's not South Carolina Fight on

But yeah This was this was Nick Savan saying that this was as unhappy As he's ever been after a victory This was a 38 A high bar first of all Yeah that's a high bar This was a second of all This was a 3810 win over

for like a Western Kentucky offense, it's awesome. This is a win that will boost your playoff resume by the end of the season, and he's unhappy about the 28-point win. Furious. So furious that he completely tore Lane Kiff and Nguyen on the sidelines, which, of course, everyone immediately begins to wonder and conspiratize about, you know, oh man what's he what's he saying to lane kiff and i'm like well he's he's probably telling him how bad he is he's got he's calling an asshole yeah after the game they said what were you

discussing or arguing and he said we weren't arguing anything i was chewing his ass which that's there's a visual for you that it might it might have been it's also west virginia for you know just uh chewing ass i i do enjoy this that that when you knock out a quarterback uh and you Alabama they don't say that he knocked him out they say this western kentucky quarterback mike white left late in the third quarter like bye oh i got a boy i got a thing i got a test in the morning yeah this is have you seen what they're doing out there that's yeah that's enough of that listen man i'll be over here listen early exit was good enough for brandon harris