Shutdown Fullcast - Shutdown Fullcast 4.35

Episode Date: September 14, 2016

Week three is full of extremely random but extremely good games, so most of this podcast is actually taken up by football talk. Like, at least 51% of the podcast, a new record for the Shutdown Fullcast. TOPICS: --A warm-up on light regional accents, including the unbelievable Pittsburgh accent and a quick review of how delightfully ironic it is when people from Wisconsin call you a hick --We swear we'll tell you the one thing Bama needs to do to beat Ole Miss, but first we talk about Houston going on the road to play Cincy. Delicious platelet-rich plasma shots for everyone. --Miami/App State, per ESPN's ticket index, is the second most expensive ticket in the nation right now. KIDD BREWER STADIUM, HOME OF ARISTOCRATS AND TYCOONS. --All three of us foolishly talking ourselves into Louisville beating Florida State --At least ten minutes of conversation about Papa John, aka John Schnatter, aka Big Daddy Garlic Bowls, aka The Worst Commercial Actor and Brand Presence Ever --Oklahoma hosting Ohio State, or how that really shouldn't be a close game if we're all being honest about Oklahoma at this point versus the monster Ohio State should, in theory, have. (In theory.) --Anxiety Week in the SEC West! Someone's getting fired and everything is bad. Ooh, and Georgia plays Mizzou, a game no one should watch, at all. --Pitt plays at Okie State, for some reason? --Finally, we reveal the secret to Alabama beating Ole Miss Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the shutdown fullcast. We're going to preview week three of the college football season because we are a college football podcast. Believe it or not, that's why we're going to open up with talking about accents. Because college football, mainly because we want to. I'm Spencer Hall, founder of Every Day Should Be Saturday, and editor-at-large for SBNation.com. Joining us, Ryan Nanny, who I'm going to call this week, you are the maillom to sb nation.com. How are you? I'm good.

Would you say you have an accent? I would not say that you do. It's contextual. If I slow down, it becomes a little more pronounced. Yeah, you can like lean into a lilt here and there, but you don't really have an accent. It's light. Yeah. It's a light touch.

It's a dusting. I can code switch a little bit. Yeah. Right. I don't know. Key switch. Maybe key switching is. the better term there. But I can key switch when I have to. If I'm with, if I'm with my cousin Jason

Kirk joining us from Kennesaw, Georgia, it's going to get a little bit thicker. We cousins now? It's Georgia. We're all cousins. Probably true. Probably true. Probably true. Yeah, I feel like I'm in the same situation. Like, I don't think I have an accent and I listen to this podcast every now and then, and I'll say, like, I'll just hit a word like, goddamn. I stuck my foot in that accent you know like i'll be i'll just hear myself on here going like now or sometimes or sometimes the word itself that the accent is pronounced on is god damn sure yeah got like i think i think there are certain words that are telling and they're usually words that are used more often like for instance if you're saying you know god damn first of all that's a signal right there

and then do you cut it off are you a cut damn or are you a god damn yeah are you throwing a t in there? Yeah, see, I'm from Tennessee. I'm just going, God damn. But on the whole, it's fairly light. The accent that cracks me up, though, that I cannot, this is what we were discussing right before the show started. Pittsburgh. This is what we were discussing after comparing Yukon football to egg whites at Dunkin' Donuts, I believe, but yes. Yeah. Because the accent that, because we don't want to talk about that. Let's not open with talking about you've gone football. I'd rather open with making fun of people from Pittsburgh, who I love and I love your accent. I also want you to know that when

you start speaking, it's like I'm having a stroke. If you just cooked toast at the same time, I would legit dial 911. That's how mind-blowing the Pittsburgh accent will be and will always be for me. That you say, that you say instead of towels, you say tiles. Like, it's all. It's Almost like you're, like, it's almost like you're playing a joke on me. Well, that's, that's why the Steelers can only have quarterbacks that, that fit that vocal pattern, like Rathusberger. Like Mike Vick. Or Neil O'Donnell. Get some, get some, get some, they're the only people who actually say jerbs.

Charlie, Charlie Batch stole his gerb. Shirley Batch, down by the creek. Like, wow. Oh, it's the only accent where I cover my mouth because my jaw's open. Ian's want to go throw a milkshake at Charlie Batch? I'm powerless against it. It's funnier to me than Chicago accents, and Chicago accents are really funny. Listen, Frint.

Well, I mean, the thing about all Midwestern accents is that they are, they essentially are the effect of what if people from Germany and other parts, other parts of Eastern Europe, the Eastern Bloc, basically, moved to America and just tried to make fun of us the whole time. That's what that is. It's people from Germanic countries just being like, oh, this is what Americans sound like. So like the Wisconsin accent, it's like, come on,

that's a little over the top. Can I have some more mayonnaise on my lack of universal health care? that's that's a really specific burn like a deeply specific burn I do enjoy the irony of yeah you guys you guys all sound like you have accents my god yeah we elected Scott Walker you Hicks

great why don't you come and play some real football up here some real big boy football up here some real big boy football up here Yeah, you know, we deal with the cold just fine. Yeah, I just drank a gallon of brandy. It's lubricating.

I'm cold-proofed. That's why. This machine needs solvents running through it. I don't even know what accent I'm doing it there at that point. I'm going to piss cognac later. I have eight drinks a day. That's normal, right? Love the cold weather.

Love it. I don't really automatically respect anyone for living in a cold place. It's sober cold people who are like, I haven't had a drink in 15 years, and I live in none of it. It's like, wow. It's like, you killed a dude, didn't you? Last week. Or you're about to. He's under your house.

I'm just keeping him there. The agenda for week three is a broad one because we have a spectacular. I mean, really, this is a. A solid, hearty, well-cut piece of the college football carcass that we are about to digest here. Jason, where would you like to start this week if we are looking at the vast expanse? Well, we got to mention Thursday. We have an actual Thursday game this week, and it's a decent one. It's Houston going on the road to play Cincinnati, Houston, with its playoff hopes and all that.

And I think the winner automatically gets into the Big 12 thing that's in the conference. contract. If it's not, we're going to go ahead and write it in right now. Right now, like we're announcing stipulations for a match right before it starts. The winner, the winner gets in the Big 12 as long as they're named Houston, because since he's never

getting in the Big 12. I think since he's getting in the Big 12, but not now, because we just made that stipulation. That's true. Oh, we need to do this too. We need to tease you Bama and Old Miss play this week, and we promise that on this podcast, we will tell you the one thing,

Alabama needs to do to beat Old Miss. To finally get over the hump. To finally get over that hump. I'd like to introduce that and tease this, by the way, with somebody ask a question, a reader, Colin Brister. He asked a question, who's more likely to beat Nick Sabin three times in a row?

Hugh Freeze or Death. I don't want to answer that because someone already beat him to it. At Hamph Hickman, who said, death will beat Nick Sabin once. So statistically speaking, Coach Freeze, greater than, greater than, greater than, greater than sign. Death.

Phrases, he has conquered death. He has conquered the grave. Grave, where is your sting? NCAA, where is your victory? Oh, oh. Listen, Jesus didn't follow all the recruiting rules either, all right? He was a little oversight at one point there. We don't know.

Listen, I don't think all... How exactly did you feed all 5,000 of those people? I don't know. Somebody showed up with one thing. a biscuit one thing a biscuit served how come the bible never mentions an apostles transcript less be not proud though lSU may beat us with a frightening regularity not recently but we will tell you the one thing that Alabama absolutely needs to do to beat old miss and what i think is this week's that's this week's like highest wattage

matchup correct yes yeah yeah yeah especially given what's happened the last what's happened the last two years with old miss in alabama alabama greatest football program of our time greatest machine an organization flawless from top to bottom from foundation to parapet a castle of fortress built against football mediocrity

for the rest of the world to look up and both fear and respect what's happened versus old miss it's it's look the death star got blown up twice and then they built an even bigger one the size of a planet and well

Well, I would say Ohio State Oklahoma is probably bigger, but when you say higher-watted, I mean, it's on Fox and like how many watts does Fox have, you know what I mean? To borrow a phrase from the five-factor factor-factor-five preview, this Old Miss Alabama has the most sheer cussedness to it. Oh, there's bitter hatred here because the football death star of our time, yes, has been blown up twice in a row. Because Nick Saving just can't build an exhaust port that he can cover. Right. It's just not happening. Dr. Bo, Dr. Bo, how did you get into the detention center again? Damn it. This is my favorite, my favorite part of this whole fiasco for Alabama is this,

that both times there have been plays that happen that nothing can prevent. Nothing. Sure. Chad Kelly throws a tip pass, goes off in Alabama defender, should have been a pick, goes directly in Laquan Treadwell's hands for a touchdown. And this is what Alabama will point to. And it's delightful to watch

them grasp at these straws that Old Miss has been twice in a year, twice in a row. It's a better team. Not the luckier team. They have been the better team on that night. But let's, let's, we've basted that game. Let's come back. Let's put it back in the oven. Yeah, easy. It's still juicy, but it's not time to come out. Yeah, let's go away the, don't give away the whole store.

The secrets. The secrets and the mysteries. Yeah, Houston, Cincinnati is, is Greg Ward okay? I assume he just didn't play against Lamar because, you know, Lamar hasn't been at the gym in like a week, and they didn't really need him to take him down. You didn't need Greg against Lamar. No, man.

You didn't play a team with their whole school just named one first name. You just call all your players by their first names. I mean, I guess technically Houston applies there as well. Hmm. Well, you remember, we do know a man named Houston. Ready to help, ready to help when you are. But yeah, this is not a, this is a matchup where Greg Ward is, I guess, okay. Is that, is that a game time decision?

I haven't, I mean, we're going to use the magic of the internet. I haven't heard anything indicating he's back in, he was back in practice two days ago. He's cleared to play. He'll play. Whether or not he is 100% question mark, question mark, and they should probably not try to use him more than they have to, but he says he says he's fine. His MRI showed no structural damage, and he received a platelet-rich plasma shot as part of his treatment. Delicious. I know, man.

They make that sounds so appetizing. In Houston, it's like it's got, uh, what, what, let's see, it come in like a, a, like a fajita, I guess. Well, I was going to say it sounds like, you know how oxygen bars were a big thing in, like, 2003? This is, I think, the modern day version of the oxygen bar. Yeah, this is, it's like fried nanobbles. Yeah, delicious fried nanobbles and muscle confusion will take Houston from its current spot into the hierarchy of college football.

Houston's already number six. I mean, I understand that there's still a lot of season left to play, but it is kind of weird that we are usually when we're talking about a group of five team we're like oh all right well you know they that win early in the season moved them up to number 15 and they're probably just going to have to watch a bunch of teams lose below them Houston's already in striking position for a playoff spot man look at you in the eight people yeah yeah look at houston schedule look at ohio state schedule and michigan schedule tell me tell me where do their roads diverge oh oh State, they're going to play a real opponent

this week. Michigan's Dodge in Louisville, that's the difference. To Ohio State, we say, and then what? Yeah. Yeah, it'll be like, man, you know, Houston plays Tulsa. Y'all play Tulsa. Michigan's stepping up its schedule, stepping up its schedule

again to play this year's worst team in the Pact 12 North, I think, or in Pac-12 South, whichever one Colorado's in, no one knows where Colorado is. Colorado is better. The worst team in the non-Oregon state category. Yeah, which of, yeah.

Although not this year. Oh, no, Colorado's great. We're all back on the Buffs train. They're out here. Their SIDs making fun to Jim Harbaugh. They're wearing uniforms. They're reference that time they beat Michigan in Ann Arbor with a Hail Mary.

Colorado ain't scared of shit, by the way. They're not, Cephalafow. My chosen quarterback this year, who I will remember as being much better than he is. That's an all-caps title. This is our fourth straight episode praise in Colorado, I think. This is a Colorado program. No, we're going to do this because it's the year of the bison.

So, aka the Buffalo. I'm just extending it from North Dakota State all the way to Colorado. It's like a brainworm of SEO. That's great work. Yeah, I'm working it. I'm working it. But yeah, Cephal LaFal, love Cephalafow. Can't believe he's not going to be a success in the NFL.

I actually can't. But it doesn't matter. He's an awesome college quarterback. Whatever. um before we get to all of those uh maybe we have glossed over the importance of florida state at louisville the game where game day is headed and part of that maybe that it's a noon game and it kind of feels weird to be like oh the most important game on saturday is being played at nine o'clock in the morning on the west coast um that is weird that is weird they throw it they're

going to throw it straight from game day to like and now the game we were talking about and now yeah Now Curb Street's going to get in a golf cart and go call the game. Even weirder, the ESPN game right after Game Day. You know which one that is? That's Miami App State. Oh, man. Oh, yes, it is. America's going to go straight from Papa John picking Louisville to beat FSU to

what the fuck am I looking at here? This team has five national titles. What in the hell? How do I stop watching this? so I like by the way that the immediate reaction will be is Miami lost did they get lost I what happened I cannot vouch for the accuracy of the ticket sale ticket resale portion of ESPN's schedule website I can tell you this though tickets they list for the Florida State Louisville game starting at $166 for the Miami Appalachian State game $212

Boone is lit Boone no Boone wants this man This is not good for Miami It is more expensive Than Alabama Old Miss It is more expensive than Oregon At Nebraska

Like this is by far Okay there's the only game That is listed is more expensive Than App State Miami Is Ohio State Oklahoma But it's close On the other hand If you want to go see Hawaii

At Arizona ESPN says You can get in for $9 We can get you into that We can get you to that one. Real cheap. Real cheap. Family value are there, by the way. That's a great idea.

Today was the day on Twitter when Miami Twitter and App State Twitter finally butted heads. There was like App State accounts tweeting like empty Miami home stadium crowd shots. And Miami fans are going in on the App State accounts. I think we got us a good rivalry here, y'all. Finally, one Miami can hold up its end in. Right. don't say that you don't know it yet that's that's not bite off a bigger piece and

miami can chew here hey ryan what happened the last time our team played miami i don't want to talk about it what was that like six turn over something like that yeah that was yeah that was that was stupid god god damn so they're in possession of the uh what what drug paraphernalia item is the trophy between well technically technically i believe uh it is some form of of a canoe? I think. I think Miami and Florida, the rivalry trophy

is a canoe. It is actually, it is actually a bronze Facebook post. It's the Florida, it's the Florida Cup. It's also the Florida Cup. Yeah, Miami Florida's rivalry trophy is a bronzed Facebook post from a Miami fan

who did not go to Miami talking about how Florida is scared. That's the rivalry. trophy right there and and gaiters is spelled just how you think it is eloquently eloquently yeah that's how it's spelled benetically i guess that yes the the winning team was formally awarded the seminal war canoe trophy which is the most florida thing to give somebody a a used boat used boat

A used boat from a war That is technically ongoing A boat you can carry to a river If you want A used boat that technically neither party owns Yeah We just stole from someone else A boat that two parties

Are both trying to get rid of Trying to pawn off on each other That's why Florida doesn't want to play Miami anymore Storage on a boat is a motherfucker And everyone on Miami on that team Who really has never left South Florida They're gonna just roll into Boo North Carolina I'm going, what the hell is up with these

Hill Jack? Oh, no. Yeah. It's going to be fun. Culture shock to an extreme. I will watch the entire thing because that is not, that's a dangerous game. Miami has had a very easy time in their first two encounters. Yeah, between that game, Florida

State Louisville, as we said, Florida State without Derwin James, which is going to be very interesting. North Dakota State at Iowa has interesting potential. Temple at Penn State. Put that on the list, too. Noon has some interesting stuff going on for it.

Noon is not the usual, just slog through this, just, you know, choke down this oatmeal, and you can get to the next meal before you know it. Yeah, there's very little Big Ten in the Noon slate. I think it's what you say. You say that, and then New Mexico's going to beat Rutgers in Piscataway. Oh, so there are exciting Big Ten games. I enjoy that you refer to that, like,

an unnecessary food additive, right? There's very little Big Ten in this juice. When I think Big Ten, I just think Illinois and Northwestern. I feel like that's, I mean, when I think Big Ten Noon game, like that's the defining noon experience is Illinois and Northwestern, just slapping the point button. Now, you know who both of those teams play this week, right? Do they somehow both play Western Michigan?

Illinois does. So you're half right. Whoops. That was a bad idea. meanwhile there's an l northwestern is also playing a mac team is that right northwestern it gets a night game on big 10 network against duke duke yeah so mac team uh-huh so so so so the big the big 10 network is going i mean i actually appreciate what the big 10 network did here because ohio state is playing oklahoma in that same slot as is michigan state and notre name so they're

like yeah let's not even tempt people to not watch one of those teams let's go ahead and put Duke Northwestern at 8 o'clock. It's aggressive counter-programming. Let's only get ironic college football fans to watch this game. That's like an AP class or something, right? You're way too smart for Ohio. Yeah, we need to invite you over here where you'll really understand the pathos of this rivalry. Yeah, this is like the Iliad of college football games in that it's going to be long and boring,

and you will wonder why you ever started it. Yes, speaking of potential debacles, let's go to Florida State Louisville, because they're playing, Florida State will be playing without Durham, James. It's not like they can't necessarily cover for that, but watching Florida State against Ole Miss, they did not adjust very quickly to a passing attack. Louisville has Lamar Jackson who in two games is 44th nationally in offense by himself just repeat that

if Lamar Jackson were playing alone selfish he's selfish selfish he would be the 44th ranked school in the nation that's before you throw in a single other person off the Louisville roster he's astonishing and he's going to be playing

against a team that is down one outstanding All-American level safety. So where's this game again? It's a... Papa John Stadium. It's at the slice. Welcome to the garlic butter bowl. It's at the big ingredients.

You know, like what an asshole he would be if he forced them to call it Big Ingredient Stadium. You know what's a asshole. a real fucking disappointment so papa john inexplicably insists on being in every one of his fucking commercials even though he's the worst actor in the

goddamn world against against the like against the strict advice of his employees right and his advertising and getting blown off the screen by Peyton Manning and JJ Watt yeah it's it's when you're getting out acted by JJ Watt

but I looked up a I was curious I wanted to see in the Spanish language, Papa John's commercials, you know, does he appear? And yes, he does, but he doesn't say a word. And I so desperately wanted to hear, to hear Papa John's, Papa John saying, like, mehor ingredientes, mehor pizza, Padre John's, I just, no. Padre Juan. Padre Juan. What, if you've, I've seen him in person, by the way, There's a lot of Botox. There's been a lot of Botox and a lot of face-feet.

It looks like Ray Leota at this point. Yeah, kind of like Rayliota's like... I mean, like, modern Raleo. I'm not saying he looks like 90s Rayliota. I'm saying he looks like current Rayliota. Don't slam 90s Ray Leota. That man was a killer. Wouldn't dream of it.

But, yeah, unlawful entry. Do you think, like, Papa John is going to pull the Phil Knight and eventually demand a headset? Yes, I do. I think he's going to do that, but based on what I've... And use it to order Papa John's pizza. That's it. He'll just be quiet.

I don't think he'll be like Phil Knight and then he's like, Phil Knight's like, yeah, you guys need to pass more. I have no doubt Phil Knight's like, what is this shit? You guys need to pass more. Like doing Al Davis calling down to the field and phoning in place. I'm sure Phil Knight tries to do that. No, Papa John will just like, jury rig a silly straw to his headset and just use it to sip gym all game long all game long one of my

favorite things about being in louisville is everybody has a papa john story like he's been a civic institution for like a generation now like he's around yeah like i think it was john voice talking about you know in elementary school you get whenever it's like pizza day you get day old papa johns that's just automatic every single time you know know you're getting leftover papa jones maybe like faulty papa johns not enough cheese on it you know uncle johns this isn't good enough brother john yeah you get the papa johns that didn't pass the the exacting standards i really hope by the way that there's i have several papa john stories but for like libel purposes i really don't yeah you hear those two i don't want to tell them

I mean, there's, obviously, there was a picture published on Deadspin, which is of Papa John looking completely inebriated. I think when Louisville won the national championship in basketball, right? Yeah, with cause. Yeah. With cause. Like, and good for him. If I was like, uh, is he a, he's not a billionaire. You can't think a bill.

I refuse to believe you can make a billion dollars off pizza. It just seems like a couple. According to Wikipedia, he's closer than you think. They say he's worth $710 million. that seems about right incredible yeah that seems it just seems like pizza tops out I can't charge any more for this and I can't sell any more of it

even in like a country full of fat-ass gluttons who remain stationary and don't really care about the quality of their food what was the Papa John's innovation was it the little garlic cup in the box was that was that the innovation it was loading the it was loading the sauce off with fucking with fucking sugar so it was like you were eating a melted tomato popsicle like doughy springy springy pizza when you bite it

fucking terrible yeah I mean I would rather get little Caesars I would rather get Little Caesars Dominoes any of them any of them are better than I'll go I'll go I'll go Pizza Hut with a hard number one I feel like Domino's

is edible after that the national pizza chains yeah but Papa John's is way down there yeah also I will never forgive them for having the Big Papa's song which to me is just the sound of like horrendous middle age creeping up on you where he's driving around in the car and there's this whole like awful barbecue blues band in the back going go big papa go big papa i don't remember this at all oh it's terrible it's when he had an entire advertising campaign centering on him finding his car and he found his car which is like this like honestly kind of boss like old camero that he that he's he had to sell at one point for some reason and he got it back now keep in mind

this is the worst advertising pitch ever because I don't give a shit whether this rich guy gets his car back or not right he got his car back and that was the whole commercial and they're playing the song in the back that's like do do do do do go be proper and you're like man this is just like the worst

ad for Viagra and Botox this honestly makes suicide seem preferable to aging even if I had 700 million dollars seven hundred million dollars and the and uh you're 700 million dollars and you walk in and they're like hey we've got an idea for an ad and he's like i do too it's me driving around in my car with a badass band playing go big pocket i was like that's the best you could do with 700 million dollars oh my god shoot me just put a bullet in my mouth worth it

yeah so anyway i think lamar jack is going to have a really great game and i think uh i think this is a that honestly feels like FSU could lose. Like, just having seen like, yeah, having seen what their past defense looked like, yes, before brilliant halftime adjustments. But I don't think that defense is all that. The offense is real. The other complete unknown, I think, at this point in time,

is Louisville's defense, which returned a fair amount of talent and currently sits at 18th in the country in yards per play. Aloud. Granted, consider the competition they played so far compared to, you know, some of the other folks below them on this list. But, I mean, this was, if I recall correctly, this was like a pretty respectable defense last year. Yeah, this was, they were 16th in the country last year in yards per play aloud. So they are not in that typical mode of, oh, hey, they can put up all these points and then they're just going to let you score a lot. In theory, whether or not that will actually pan out. remains to be seen. Yeah, the other thing for Louisville is turnovers, because they have been super sloppy with the ball at times,

especially wide receivers. Wide receivers have some drops. They've had some fumbles. They have not been super ball secure. That was a problem for Lamar Jackson at times last year. So that's something to watch because FSU has the athletes to do that. Can we go back to Papa John real briefly? Yeah.

I think we could do a whole podcast about Papa John. and not get sued. Papa John, these are all facts. Papa John has a Twitter account that he has not used since summer 2013. And that Twitter account, when he used it, followed 24 people.

And I'm just going to give you a smattering of some of them. One is Mario Batali, which I can only imagine Mario Patali's fucking reaction when he found out Papa John followed him on Twitter. He follows Lance Bass and also the Team Lance Bass Street Team account He follows

Mountain Dew Pepsi, Pepsi, Max, PepsiCo. They are... He follows Taylor Swift. He follows Jerome Bettis and Chris Collinsworth and he follows Usher. These are just a handful of the... I mean, I'm mostly impressed that he follows not one but two Lance Bass accounts and nobody else from in sync.

Nobody else. Well, he's a refined man. He's a connoisseur. He's only going to take Lance Bass. That's all he needs. Lance Bass, the Papa John's of Boybans. You know, he probably follows him because, like, I don't know, he's at a party and stumbling around. He's like, hey.

Hey, Lance, I want to go to space. I want to make pizza in space with you. Can we do that? it does taste like space pizza right like this is probably the pizza astronauts have to endure i think if you put a papa papa john's pizza it's like the water bear of food right now it's you don't know about the water bear no it's got too much indestructible animal yeah the problem is papa john's pizza has way too much oil and butter on it and in a zero gravity environment that all starts coming loose once that garlic butter gets loose it gets in all the instruments if you if it's sleep

lips out of your hands in space, it'll soon be flying at an incredible velocity around the earth, and it'll be a danger to future space missions, because it'll just puncture right through any, any, any, uh, any, uh, any man-made craft. Hey, man, I've seen, I've seen, that's how gravity two starts. I've seen Cosmos. We get enough Papa John's pizza out there floating around in space. It starts to collide, starts to build, build itself up. Pizza planet. We got a planet made out of Papa John's pizza. All entire. Make a delicious nebula.

Yeah, and when we mine it for the oil within, look out. Alternative fuel, it would be brilliant. Papa John, save the earth. Go, oh, big, Papa. Oh, we have to talk about a different game now. Oh, man, let's talk about Ohio. A reminder, we are going to talk about Bama Ole Miss and the one thing that Alabama has to do to beat Ole Miss. It's very simple.

We will share it with you. First, we do have to discuss Ohio State OU, because Oklahoma, they have to continue playing football. I know Houston beat them. I know that they only ran the ball like 11 or 12 times, or 12 times with two brilliant running backs. They decided to not do that. And despite that debacle, and despite watching Mike Stubes almost fall out of the booth that he was calling his defense from, like a crazy person, they still have to play football. and that to play football against Ohio State, a team that

who's Ohio State played? Let's see, Tulsa. Bowling Green and Tulsa, I believe. Yeah. So not nobody that really moves the needle for me personally, which is fine. I know who Florida, I know who Florida's played so far

and plays this week. I'm not going to start throwing those stones in this very glass house. No, no, no. I will say this. Good for you for scheduling a preseason. college football doesn't have one you might as well build one in worked for the SEC for years i think everyone should do it i mean the credit you the credit you give ohio state for those two games

which granted they're not fcs schools and both bowling green and tulsa have not too distant history of being interesting group of five schools they they they choked the life out of both of these teams they beat bowling green by 67 points they beat tulsa by 45 neither team got to 250 yards of offense they they like just just sat on them and watched the life leave their body i will say this too that uh in those games you Tulsa pesky very pesky aggressive offense they will be they will be good down the road when they are not playing uh a factory like ohio state they'll be fine, and they're a challenging team to play. They also

threw four interceptions. Yeah. Against Ohio State, and not because they were charitable, but because they were being pressured into that. So Ohio State's defense is looking really, really good. They're also running the ball real well and doing it with a real diverse attack, right? I think

last week they had six people carry the ball total, and ran for, oh, shoot, just a little shy of 300. Let's see, 268. They ran for 268. 359 the week before that, so. Yeah, so running the ball real well, playing really good defense, and now you're going to play Oklahoma.

And they still have J.T. Barrett, who, I know what happened last year, and I am still sort of flummoxed by it, but he's still J.T. Barrett, and I feel like he's possibly the most talented player relative to the amount we talk about him on a national level. yeah that and this when you're running the ball that well and you really don't have to pass the ball that well against inferior teams when you face someone like oklahoma what can you do especially against a team that sometimes only has one safety defending a huge amount of the field like oklahoma does by design hi mike stoop's oh you can throw play action you can throw play action all day on that so and if that doesn't work guess what j t barrett can do he can just take off and run he's real good good at that. Overall, Ohio State's a way more talented team than Oklahoma. I know Oklahoma has its points, but go and look

at recruiting. And I think, yeah, I was going to say Bud would agree with this 1,000%. Yeah, this is this is Bud Elliott speaking through me. I'm just like totally doing a Bud thing. Yeah, I mean, if you look at these two teams, you know, Oklahoma hadn't been anything in recruiting. They've just been, they've been mediocre given

for what they are. It's been years since they've had that kind of standard. Ohio State's just, they're in another league from them. This shouldn't be close. Which I kind of agree with. I kind of think Ohio State should plow this team. This should not be close. This should be like a 3110 game or 3117. So let's say it's not.

For the sake of interesting argument, because if Ohio State does smack Oklahoma around in Norman, I feel pretty confident that they are, you know, we're going to be talking about them for a long, long time to come. If that's not the case, and Oklahoma beats the Buckeyes. What do we do with them at this point? I sort of feel like that would be way worse for Ohio State than it would be good for Oklahoma at this point.

I mean, we also haven't talked about my favorite wrinkle in this game. Which is. So I think some people look at this game and say, from a Houston perspective, they probably want Oklahoma to win because that sort of improved. their resume by proxy because they can say, you know, we beat a team that was good enough to beat the highest ranked, the currently highest ranked team in the Big Ten. It's not that Oklahoma is having a down year or isn't as good as some people thought. They're perfectly talented and we get all the credit for beating them. What Tom Herman has done this week flies flatly

in the face of that because he is working with Ohio State. Or is he? Well, Is he sabotaging his old boss, Urban Meyer, just to improve Houston's playoff and big 12 pieces and his own job prospects? Is Tom Herman coming for that Ohio State job by trying to get Urban Meyer fired? It's so twisted. See, y'all don't understand these levels, the devious levels that Tom Herman will sink to because he's now fully steeped in old UGK albums. That's true. all sorts of survival mechanisms that you got to do to get the

Ohio State job. Wow. I didn't even see it coming. I feel so naive. Bunby's taught him the ways of the players code. Over here he said, this is where big dog shit. And from there, the education continued. And now he gets, now he sees the Matrix. This could be real deep.

I would also like just, this is not a joke. So I apologize for it. You can just fast forward 15 seconds if you want. Bleacher Report had a really interesting sit-down piece with Urban Meyer about his history of mental illness and personal struggle and chemically treating some of his problems in life. Not in like a real super major way or anything. I don't want you to think. Well, no. Actually, yeah, Urban Meyer, it was strung out while he was at Florida. Just assume that. But no, you should go read it. It was, I thought, a really well-done piece and a interesting, interesting way.

for Urban Meyer to sort of peel back a little bit and I emphasize a little bit because there's still a lot he doesn't want to talk about of his personal onion which sounds like a weird sex thing now that I say it. Yeah thanks Ryan and he did that master of the spread option

anyway the interesting thing about that Brandon Sneed article that I hadn't really seen was him and he does he's done a lot of this if you haven't if you're not familiar with Urban Meyer, he's been pretty open about being kind of a screwed up person. It's like a person who runs at such a high gear and is so obsessive that it often cripples

his ability to interact on any other level with humans. Right? To enjoy life in a lot of ways. Yeah, to enjoy it. He could not, he could not enjoy like he, after they won in 2006, the first thing he did was get back on his phone like i mean he was right on his phone recruiting there was no there was no celebration whatsoever same thing with 2008 you know that's how he got to the point he got to and i always like that about him like like that he's been pretty open about like yeah i'm weird like i'm not this isn't normal uh you really shouldn't be this way this isn't advisable i wouldn't i wouldn't be me you know like he's he's he's he's he's he's done a lot of, like, he's not quite, I mean, he's not, I think, a person who's never going to

quite be, you know, like, oh, the well-rounded man. It's not going to be, you know, he's not going to be the convivial cocktail guy that, you know, Barry Switzer is and was. He's not going to be, he's not going to be a Renaissance man, like, like Mike Leach. He's never going to be, I think, the jovial color commentator who won't shut up like Mac Brown. He's never going to, he's never going to be Steve Spurrier. He's never just going to be like, well, let's just go out there and see what we can do. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. I still got paid. I feel like what's presented in this story, and it is really good, is this is a coach who, yeah, he works 100 hours a week and a highly competitive job, but at this point, he's learned

enough to level up, and he knows that he's that person. And like, that little bit of self-awareness makes a huge difference. And, you know, I think there's a lot of anybody could take from it. It's also a very, I mean, in some ways, it's also a piece about his wife, Shelly Meyer, and sort of how she was like, yep, saw all this coming, tried to do something about it. But it turns out my husband's a stubborn jackass, and he had to find out the hard way. But I still helped him. Urban Meyer literally married a mental health nurse. Yeah. And I really appreciate Shelley Meyer because I think it was, no, I wasn't still at Florida.

I was back in Gainesville for some reason. No, because I didn't go to Florida during the Rubin-Myer years, because why would I have nice things? She, a friend was in line at some autograph thing and asked Shelly Meyer to give an opinion on the terrible mustache I was sporting at the time, and she looked at me, and she just gave me a thumbs down. She is an honest woman. She will tell you, whether you are her husband or a total stranger, she will hit you with the facts. She is a no bullshit kind of lady, and it was a terrible mustache. You're right, Shelly. Yeah, so let's just hope for...

Well, she does. For people, that's true. Let's just hope for Urban Myers continued mental health that they do what they should do on the face of things and beat Oklahoma handily because Oklahoma... The other thing about Oklahoma, too, they got pushed off on the line.

Like, they got shoved around. And I don't think that's a real promising thing if you're looking at playing Ohio State. No. um can we talk about the game i know the least about well sure that's all miss bama no no no no no we we know the secret we're just not sharing it yet we're gonna get there um michigan state's number 12 in the country right now they've played exactly one game that game was against firman it wasn't a particularly

like oh man they're clicking on all cylinders kind of game and they're playing at notre dame who's number 18 and I this is one of those games that just makes me feel like rankings are meaningless and you shouldn't look at them and be like well you know Michigan State should win this game necessarily I just oh man I

I understand preseason rankings are stupid that said we've had a lot of shakeup in them already that's why LSU is currently number 20 in the nation and why well there are different reasons why Washington's number eight but that doesn't matter um yeah i just i don't know what's i have nothing informative to say about michigan state at this point in time no this reminds me a lot of the game last year USC stanford which was i think also week three um and USC was number five no one had any idea why they were just there it was just like you look up one day and there's a

portrait on your wall you've never seen before i don't know who this man is someone put a picture of an old man on my wall and then Stanford came through and took it down and it was like ah top five upset um i don't really have any reaction i didn't okay all right next anyway like it was it was during a bigger game that didn't have the same rankings implications but actually mattered and like whoever loses this game it's just gonna be like yeah i guess sure i guess that team was ranked in the 10s yeah it's just it's just weird because it's one of those things where we will whoever wins it will carry it around for a while and be like well look at what they did against ranked opponents and top 20 but it's i don't know it feels all pretty meaningless and stupid yeah let me give you this

too uh notre dame i know michigan state will be no great shakes on offense because martintonio doesn't really uh care uh how any of these numbers work as long as they get a win just doesn't like what are we an all punting team today that's fine right right we can we can score like that it's don't ask how we'll just do it like that we can score when you punt that's fine too that's fine We'll score when you punt. Or none of us will score. We'll show up in lacrosse gear and challenge you to backgammon. It doesn't matter.

Wins a win. Nobody said it had to be a football win. Yeah, Michigan State's fine with ugly. And I would also point to Notre Dame being brilliant at times on offense and deplorable at times on defense. Because I know Texas will be better on offense. Over the next couple of weeks, there will be this gradual coming down to reasonable expectations. I think Notre Dame's defense is kind of bork. Because I don't think.

Well, just real quick, Texas plays Cal this week. There comes another 50, by the way. Next, so after a couple of weeks down the, like maybe a month down the road, eventually someone in the Big 12 will play defense against Texas. It will happen. Will somebody? Because, I mean, we usually count on TCU for that. And, uh, whoa. Kansas State.

We got to Kansas State. Bill Snyder is the only one who can redeem Notre Dame's image. It's not even like they're going to play defense, Kansas State. They're just going to be slow. It's all Kansas State does. They're like, why? Just dribble, just, we're going to use up the shot clock. Waltz and up to the line.

Take a look around. Pass it around the three-point line. Just easy, oh, easy, draw the foul. Just draw the foul. The most college basketball, college football team. Like the Wisconsin of, yeah, like 46, 42, perfect game. Perfect. The automatic Twitter argument between basketball fans of college football teams.

Yeah, that's what we're looking at here. And you watch Kansas State instead of the NBA. I don't understand it. I do think Notre Dame's defense is bored. I think they have some issues. You shouldn't be given up that many points. and just they didn't they didn't look together they didn't really yeah they they looked discombobulated and they didn't really look like they didn't really look like they could defend

the past that well i don't know if they were fully prepared for that being a you know two offenses at once that was executed like shockingly well and it was an overtime game which inflates the scores a little bit sure you gave away too many points but um you know they they looks how they should against nevada um i'm not overpraising brian van gorder here by the the way. I'm well aware this can go off the rails, uh, as it did in week one. But I, you know, I'm not that worried about Notre Dame's defense at this point. Well, how's this? I wouldn't be worried about them against Michigan State. No, they'll be fine. Don't worry. This will be six to three. I don't know who we'll have the six though. Um, so we've talked a lot about the,

the ranked matchups. And, and they're going to be all interesting, worth watching, et cetera, et cetera. Um, we should also, I've been doing a project that every day should be Saturday where I'm trying to predict how many coaches to, uh, within, to one decimal point are going to get fired in the SEC West. Last week was super low key, especially with Arkansas not actually blowing the lead against TCU and LSU not actually losing to Jacksonville State and things of that nature. Um, this is not that week. There's going to be a, there's going to be a lot of, a lot of heartburn going on in the SEC West. So you started out, I think, You were 2.8 after week one, and then you went to 2.2.

Yeah, it was either 2.8 or 2.6, and then it dropped to 2.2. So we're going to crack three this week, right? I feel very good about that, yeah. Yeah, because this is what we have dubbed, Anxiety Week! It's all offseason we've been looking at, I think, A&M, Auburn, as the anxiety bowl. Like, I think Godfrey was the first to use this term, because it looked like these coaches are on scalding seats. And, you know, right now, Kevin Sondland's looking pretty good. I mean, you beat UCLA and they're ranked 17th or something.

I'm not looking at this stuff, but I think someone can absorb a road loss without, you know, a hot seat talk at this point. Gus Miles can't. Yeah, neither can Dan Mullen or Les Miles who are playing each other at the same time. Yeah, there's that one. So, like, this is a anxiety bowl double header. This is where we, this is where, by the way, we start to get conference play, which means you have zero-sum propositions. For instance, you mentioned the biggest zero-sum proposition of all. Someone has to win and someone has to lose and be put in a really bad position in Mississippi State LSU.

Yeah. Like a real, real bad spot. Because ordinarily, MSU losing the LSU, well, so what? Well, once you lose to South Alabama, so what goes out the door? You got to make up. You're in the hole. How are you going to make it up? Yes.

And when you're James Mullen and you've been there, what, five years and you basically have not won a single upset game, you know, it's like every single Mississippi State game turns out exactly how it should based on the end of the year when you look back at things. I mean, yeah, they have a few, you know, a few big good wins in that span and he's done a good job and all that. But very little, very little, you know, landmark overachievement. They've also got, they've also got something, which I think is now in a pattern people recognize. recognize and which is not healthy for a coach's overall outlook, which is, oh, you're a magnificent quarterback just left. Well, I'm sure you'll find the kind of production and talent you found in him instantly. Yeah. This is, this is, this is the Gene Chisick phenomenon, correct? A little bit. There's a little bit of that. Is it good for Mullen if Dack just tears up the

NFL and he can say, well, what was I supposed to do? Look, that guy's gone. Look at him. So, look, it buys you a little time. You see him on Sunday night football every week. What am I supposed to do? The further you get away from that guy, the worse it looks. If they're one and two and the only thing, I mean, the win against South Carolina is certainly better than a loss against South Carolina, but it is, that game is the minimum payment due on your credit card.

It is not going to keep you afloat for a long, long time. You ain't paying any interest down with that one. Yeah. The good news is, looking ahead at Mississippi State's schedule for, like, the next month or so, they do have a road game at UMass next week. What the thing? Yeah, yeah, hey, hey, hey, Miami fans, just bear with us, okay? Because, listen, everybody catches these blues sooner or later.

They play, God, they have the weirdest goddamn schedule. They go to UMass. So they go to LSU this week at night, which does not seem promising. They go to UMass, they host Auburn, they go to BYU, and they go to Kentucky. This is like, between LSU Auburn and Kentucky, this is basically like a, hey, let's do an eliminator match for coaches. Yeah, this is bizarre. In addition to this, by the way, like, if Mississippi State, they're playing, like,

maybe the worst LSU team in a while. Oh, boy. Yeah, the worst. The one with the most glaring issues. Yeah. Because when you win a, I mean, Purdue fans are, they put up with a lot. And now they have to be dragged into the LSU's problems as well. Because everyone says, oh, well, when you're playing a Purdue transfer at quarterback, things are real bad.

And Purdue fans are like, yes, we know, just stop talking about us, please. But, okay, yeah, that is a problem. Or they run to, or they run to, we have Drew Brees, or Danny Eiley was actually really highly recruited. It was an elite 11 quarterback. Yeah, and then he went to Purdue. Why'd that happen? What did he expect? It's fun because LSU between this game and the Auburn game next week,

it does feel like less miles, you might want to sweep those. Yeah, also, man, that text, just going back, that Texas A&M, Auburn game, Auburn loses. Oh, good night. Yeah. Yeah. Can we take a question? Yeah.

Oh, shit. I got one I want to get to That's sort of along similar lines Okay From Terp Showtimes Our NFL Rams blog Formerly of St. Louis, now of Los Angeles I briefly thought you said Terp Showtimes

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I am not going to be able to give you one of those off the top of my head. So sad right now. Those four gentlemen. Terps Show Times, the most beleaguered and put upon blog in the SB Nation Network at this point. It's been through some shit. Can someone please take Jeff Fisher from us? We'll throw in our third string QB. For those of you who wisely don't follow the NFL,

their third string QB is, of course, number one draft pick Jared Goff, formerly the productive quarterback at Cal. So I started to think about... He is third string. Who's the backup? Ryan, you probably know. I don't know this, and I don't want to.

Good God, we don't even know who Jared Goff is behind on the depth chart. I'll look it up. I'll look it up. I got you. But, so last year, Jared Goff was a top 10 college quarterback based on pastor rating against various, you know, against FPS, against Power 5. He's consistently top 10. We can call him a top 10 quarterback.

Number one pick, no. But, yes, he was good. The answer to your question, by the way, is Oregon State's former quarterback Sean Mannion. Oh. Yeah. Okay. So. Okay.

Okay. So we'll say top 15, top 15 quarterback. I'm bumping them down from top 10. But think about the teams that could really, really use a top 10ish quarterback right now, even if it meant taking on a top 63-ish head coach. Because I think anywhere you, like Jay-Z said, anywhere you put Jeff Fisher on God's Green Earth, he'll have his worth, to paraphrase Jay-Z. So he's going to get you six and six.

you're banking on six and six once you bring in Jeff Fisher. But if you have the top 10 quarterback and you have the talent, maybe you can overcome just coaching that just sort of stays out of the way and doesn't fuck things up. And I mean, I think this brings this back to LSU because if there is a team in the country that could just use, you know, a good to excellent quarterback and a coach that would just sort of show up, it would be, they'd probably be in better shape this year at least. I mean, recruiting would tank, but, I mean, you'd take that deal for the next couple months.

I mean, I hear what you're saying, but you know where Jeff Fisher's son played a little bit of college football, right? And that would be Auburn. Mm-hmm. That's, man, after all this high school spread nonsense, it's time to just get a sensible, bland, three. squares a day. That's why I always imagine like Jeff Fisher is a kind of dude who's and they're like, yeah, we have a cafeteria and he's like, oh, could I,

how many meals a day? Jeff, you can eat three. This is, this is good stuff guys. Back and cheese every meal? Well, no, but two of them. Two of them. Two.

That's most, that's most meals. Man, the savings just keep adding up here. Guys, go on. I'm over 500 on mac and cheese. Which college team would be most excited to win exactly seven games every year? Maybe that's another way of looking at this. Virginia. Virginia would totally take that. Bring him home.

Of course, Jeff Fisher, a USC alum, as gets brought up every 18 months when USC is hiring a new head coach. I don't think they need him. I don't think they need these problems. And also he's showcasing himself in Los Angeles right now. He's not even the USC. connected NFL head coach in California, most likely to get the USC job. That would be Jack Del Rio.

That would be Lane Kiffin. Listen, bring Lane home. Bring Lane home. He's learned a lot. The prodigal son has returned. He's got all that, he's got all those fresh bite marks on his ass from the ass chewing he received from Nick Sabin. Got that Sabin in the bloodstream now. It ain't leaving.

He's inoculated. Yeah, he's inoculated. I like how at this point, if Kippen went back to USC, it would be like, they've redeemed enough to hire him, not like he's earned another shot. Life is so good sometimes. It'd be like he beat all the shit out of him and then made them worthy of him again. It's like, yeah, this is, this is a beautiful story life. It's a deeply unhealthy relationship.

I mean, he cleansed them of their. of their of their filth. I wanted to, I wanted to get to another question that will kind of get to one game I wanted to talk about for about 30 seconds and that's it.

At Sean O'Mara 1 asks Missouri, Missouri just scored 61 points. How should I prepare for letdowns and inevitable sadness? Well, you're not scored 61 on Georgia. So the way to prepare for

letdowns and inevitable sadness is to say to yourself, I will be watching Missouri, Georgia. That should do it. Just let that sense. think about how Georgia beat Nichols by two points last week two yeah two you'll be fine the one question to ask though is Missou better than Nichols Ryan yes yes yes we we briefly talked about

this exact question earlier and um there was some light debate about whether missus better than Nichols. I think, I think, I think, all right, let me, let me amend that. Let me amend that. Missouri at home is better than Nichols on the road. Are they three points better than Nichols? Three. That's the home, that's the home advantage, right? That's 15. Yeah, I guess that's true. I guess that's true. Shit. Okay, so we already decided it's going to be 25, 24. Boom. God. Wow. 25, 24, Missouri. We're wizards. That would already be light. years. I mean, that would be light years ahead of this game last year, which we will never speak of. We might not speak of this one. I mean, really, this might, this could drag down right back to

knuckle's territory with a quickness. I do hope that Georgia keeps winning games, but does it so ugly every week that they keep dropping in the rankings? They're just appalled. Hang on, how do we drop out of also receiving votes? Be like, we saw that shit. You don't deserve it. You can't hide. You can't hide on the SEC network or whatever. Yeah, can I give you this to another game I wanted to spend about 30 seconds on because it is sort of in that randomized, wow, I didn't even know these two teams were playing. We get Oregon and Nebraska this week, do we not? Yeah, that we do. Oregon cannot stop the run at all. At all. Yeah. No, they're real bad. UVA ran on them. Well, it's

astonishing. Yeah, they're still extremely deficient in terms of rush defense. And by the way, Nebraska averaging a little over 200, so if they can hold them to, let's see, if Oregon, if you can hold them to 350, you might win. Hold them to 350. This is a game Oregon could lose. Sure. It could. And it's not even like, like Nebraska is way better than they were last year.

they're an improved team i don't i mean even if they're not even if they're not improved they're not as snake bit as they were last year that was a weird season for nebraska deeply weird and it's just not it's just it's just not playing out as weird as last season was because it can't yeah well it's it's early i know it's early have faith have i have i have faith yeah and i know they still have skilled players, but you're going to Nebraska and they might figure out that you can't stop the run. Eventually, somebody will figure out that you can't stop the run. Oh, my God, Oregon has to play Stanford. I will say this. The score of last week's Nebraska Wyoming game deeply misleading. 5217 final. Entering the fourth quarter, though, it was Nebraska 24 Wyoming

17. Yeah. This was the game where like the Olympic lifter almost had the world record clean and jerk over his head and then it just came down on him. Nobody, Nebraska's leading rusher in this game,

15 carries 44 yards, one touchdown. The longest run they had went for 12 yards. They threw the ball really well against Wyoming, but yeah i don't know but brady hoax not done a goddamn thing to improve that oregon defense and it's pretty funny it's pretty it's pretty stupid funny it's a bro day wasn't built in a rome oh shoot i messed it up

last last one now that we've touched on the hot dog waters are of an arbor south florida at syracuse uh yeah sure no uh we got a quick one we got Temple Penn State, Temple wins. I haven't even looked at that. I'm just going to assume Temple wins. Or you can also go pit at Oklahoma State, which, poor. That's going to be a lot of feelings in one place. A lot of exuberant pit team coming in against a despondent Oklahoma State team.

A pissed off Oklahoma State team, yeah. Yeah. So I'll take, you know, that's one of those things where you want to say, man, pit's so consistent now. They're going to be great. No, I think Oklahoma State's probably going to win that game. Yeah, that's my guess, too. Texas Cow?

We got Texas Cal, son. Hell yeah. Yeah, it's going to be nine hours long. I like that. It's easy to assume Texas is just basically Texas Tech now. So it's like, you look at Texas Cal, just go ahead and mentally insert the tech in there, and that's what you're getting in this game. East Carolina plays South Carolina.

East Carolina already has a Power 5 scalp this year. another um that would be deeply fun for me i mean ecu every year they just stomp through this their non-power slate which is like half of the eastern seaboard sure i mean they beat virginia tech annually seems like you know and and when it beat when at least one acc game sure throw in south carolina they're an acc team right perfect you know they're they're the stealth acc team you know If Auburn is the ACC SEC SEC West team, South Carolina is the ACC SEC East. Yeah. Now, we've gotten to the point in the podcast where you've made it this far.

We feel like we can give you the secret for Alabama beating Old Miss. There are a lot of factors in this game. For instance, whether Chad Kelly is going to come back and bounce back and have a good effort after a frustrating second half versus Ford's date, right? Sure. whether old miss is very impressive defensive line can rattle a freshman quarterback making his debut in conference play true true also a fascinating question i really can't wait to see actually what lane kiffin sets up for this because he's been very good at bringing along young quarterbacks

and getting production out of them so also this is this is a classic brother battle we don't highlight that enough i think true you want to see how he plays on the road too because This is in Oxford at Ole Miss. That crowd will be moderate to good loud, right? And if they're in it in the fourth quarter, they will be a respectable degree of loud. So it won't be an easy operating environment for them. It'll be interesting to see whether Alabama will clean up their play,

which is what had Nick Sabin-so and since last week when they had more penalties than they've had in three years, something that, frankly, they cannot do against Old Miss, given how they've played against them the last two years when they've lost both of these games. whether Old Miss will be able to continue to pull touchdowns and fluke plays and trick plays and turnovers from its sainted ass as they have done

in the past two victories over the Crimson Tide whether they can keep up that pace the entire game as they did not against Florida State and whether their past defense will coalesce into something less than a disaster and whether Alabama will be able to take care of that but really I ask you and I'm going to ask Jason

because I'm going to let him just drop that since we've waited the whole podcast for this what's the real secret to beating Old Miss for Alabama Hey three times in a row row row three times in a row

row three times in a row row three times in a row three times in a row row three times in a row three times in a row row yeah