Shutdown Fullcast - Shutdown Fullcast 4.38: Les is not More

Episode Date: September 26, 2016

This week Jason and I are joined by new SB Nation recruit Richard Johnson for what is mostly an hour plus of commiseration over the following: --The immense hole in our hearts the departure of Les Miles has left, and who can attempt to fill it but fail --Who will end up taking the LSU job, and why they won't be as cool as Les Miles, even though they might be a better coach and win more games and stuff, but won't have interesting press conferences or make GIFs of himself Dikembe-blocking his daughter's jump-shot --WHY DID YOU FIRE LES MILES okay we know, we know, but we're still going to yell about it because our hearts hurt --Richard and I mumble about Florida being trash for a minute --Wisconsin seems mean, that's something we talk about for a second or two --The only really joyous discussion in this whole podcast comes around the 52 minute mark when we discuss Chad Kelly's bliss at getting the opportunity to throw the ball downfield with zero regard for what's waiting for it when it lands. --Oh look, Mark Richt's ranked ahead of Georgia --Look, we're just going to admit that we've all watched Washington at least twice now and can't figure out why people keep ranking them --WAIT IS ARIZONA STATE GOOD, THIS IS NOW A SITUATION AND WE HAVE TO START TALKING ABOUT IT --A salute to Jabrill Peppers of Michigan to make a business decision and not get trucked by Penn State's giant kicker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

And welcome to the shutdown forecast. I am Spencer Hull, as you can hear broadcasting from a backyard in Atlanta, Georgia, joined by Wildlife, both hired and free, the free in my backyard that you can hear through this microphone. The hired being are my two co-hosts, both wildlife on the internet. That would be Jason Kirk. Hello, sir. What's that name? and guest commentator of SB Nation late of ESPN late of the University of Florida that would be Richard Johnson

Hi Richard Hey guys I'm playing the role of Ryan Nanny I moved to the Northeast with one career plan and against my best wishes I now work for SB Nation Oh why do people keep doing this

Yeah that's That should tell you how much work sucks That you'll skip it to work for us yeah yeah come work here everyone it's good that's good now normally jason is joining us from kennesaw georgia he is tonight as i can see him on skykant joining us from kennesaw georgia from the set of the others or some other terrifying suburban horror movie from what i can gather via the camera i see yeah there is we're doing this with actual cameras for the first time um this is this is the most professional episode in

our history other than our few live episodes there is a light behind me which if i how about i say like this and sort of silhouette myself but i'll point out spencer has no light at all and with his beard and glasses all you can see is sort of his nose and forehead like santa uh so that's pretty cool like uh like uh like uh like bray wyatt as santa i'm like smoky mountain santa gun shop gun shop saint nick that's me santa claus richard what you are joining us from beautiful Bristol, Connecticut, correct? Beautiful Bristol

Connecticut, the cradle of civilization in Central Connecticut. I went to got a burger at some steam burger place. It's like a Central Connecticut staple. And one of the toppings

was salt and pepper. And I wonder why would salt and pepper be a topping? I'm not going to order that. Why would I need salt and pepper on a burger? Then I tasted the burger.

And that's when I realized why salt and on the menu did it have like um like a pepper logo like to let you know it's spicy no no it was just salt and i'm assuming cracked black pepper but uh it it says something that the staple food of central connecticut is bland and boring yeah and then you then you had mose in an emergency situation right yeah yeah had to do it had to do it better than chipole don't add me mose mose better than chipotle pose is better than chipotle six days a week twice

on Sundays. That is the hottest take in the history of this podcast. You're slinging heat from day one. I'm coming in hot. I'm coming in hot because it was like 40 degrees outside. So something's got to be hot here. So there is a place on earth that is cold right now. That's cool to know. Yeah, this is trash. The north, the weather in the north is trash. And everybody won't be. Everybody. And I didn't listen. I live here now. I mean, I think I seriously think it's interesting that there's a place on earth where autumn exists. That's cool to know. Thank you. Thank you for exploring and for finding that out for us. This is service journalism.

It's what we do here at Vox Media. Well, thank you for being bold enough. Please don't disrespect Yankee Thrift. They'll make you pay for Salt and Pepper. Remember that. These are the people who founded our country. Pay for the Salt and Pepper. I always think of Jim Calhoun when I think of Connecticut,

who, you know, when suggested that, you know, he shared the money that he makes with the football program or something. It was like, not a dime. yeah yeah they said how how dare you make so much money was it him or was it the men's coach it was him yeah it was him how dare you make so much money and it you know well how much money have made for this school yeah Connecticut the Connecticut economy get money yeah aka Kentucky with nutmeg that's what Connecticut is Kentucky with nutmeg I keep what I keep waiting like running like Bob Giac or something like the grocery store

What's up, how are you doing? Good looking guy. How's this season? I bet. I really wanted to go to Yukon, Houston, but it's in Houston. I will be at Tulsa, Houston later, by the way. To segue for this week, by the way, Houston, playing the challenging Texas State squad, squash them.

Just absolutely decimated them. So in case you're wondering whether Houston was still a thing, yes, but they're just decimating lesser competition for, like, the next two months, maybe a month, right, until they play like Tulsa. They play Tulsa in like the night. I'll be there. But other than that, they're going to kind of fall off the radar.

Oh, hey, Jason, were there other games this weekend? Yeah, there actually was a bigger game than Houston, Texas State. It involved the school with state and its name one state over, not New Mexico State, but Louisiana State. This game was amazing. And I think we all know what we're getting to, but let's really build toward it. uh let's start and i think the second or third quarter when a kickoff pelted a student photographer right in the face as she was trying to uh trying to win a bet by catching it um and which was brave and and heroic on her part and honorable you know you make a wager you go out there and you try

to catch the football that's descending at a rate of i don't know 80 miles an hour i don't know I'm not a math major But yeah It beamed her right in the face And she was fine That really set the tone LSU Auburn already has its own tone This is of course the game

Where Auburn's campus Burst into flames 20 years ago During the game And the hand of God Smoke Cloud was visible on ESPN They're just playing football While the barn is literally burning That is the

That is the starting point For this rivalry We go from that to people on the sideline getting beaned in the face by footballs. Then we go to the end of the game, which it's one of the most confusing endings ever. In the final second, so many things went wrong that our post explaining all this was, we just talked about it was a video, a GIF, three screenshots, 500 words, broken into six sections, four different people wrote parts of it,

including an actual college football official, Sid Ziegler. And there are still people saying, hey, you missed this stuff like three plays earlier. And it's like, well, yeah, we were talking about one second here. It's an Auburn game. So, of course, we're talking about one second, roll tide. But, yeah, the very short version is LSU threw a touchdown. They won the game. It didn't count.

Auburn won the game. But that went wrong in, it would take me 10 minutes just to tell you everything that went wrong. After that, Auburn's celebrating. They're rolling their trees as they do, which is cool, which is good if you ever been there. It's a spiritual communal experience, which is nice. And

somebody set the trees on fire, so the fucking trees were on fire. They put those out, and then we thought, okay, LSU Auburn is finally calmed down. That was a rowdy edition of LSU Auburn. Let's just move on. And then Les Miles was fired.

And Camer was fired. And Ed Orgeron is in charge of the state of Louisiana now. And Tom Herman, his name's out there, and Art B-word, his name's out there. And, yeah, boy, we got Auburn, LSU is going to be with us for months. So let's go back a couple steps here if I can. And Richard, you can parse through this with me if we can. First of all, I would like to point out that the gentleman who didn't know. know how to act and decided to set the toilet paper on fire and burn one of the new trees

at Tumor's Corner was not an Auburn fan, was not an Alabama fan. He was in fact an unaffiliated German visiting the United States. Is this true? We missed this. Richard actually called Auburn Police and Lee County this morning to see if anyone had been arrested. Yeah, 7 o'clock in the morning central time. I'm on the phone. with Lee County, Alabama's jail trying to find out if they got anybody in the service of journalism. For you, the listener slash the reader,

this is what I provide for you. I've brought it to the table. Yes. Now, first of all, how were those people at the Lee County Jail at 7 in the morning on a Sunday?

Real thingy. They were real Alabama twice. As usual, whatever. Yeah, but they caught the person. I hadn't seen this. Yes, his name was, I believe it's Jokin. Yokin Vist, an Auburn resident who police say is not affiliated with Auburn University. That's my favorite thing that they go out of the way to say that this man was not affiliated with Auburn.

Okay? And he was arrested on charges of desecration of a venerable object, which is a class A misdemeanorable. desecration. I'm surprised it's not a felony. I'm just I love that there's something in Alabama called desecration of a venerable object because presumably we can make Gene Stallings one of these right? Like if anybody messes with Gene it wouldn't just be a salt

be like you're trying to desecrate a venerable object like the former championship head coach of Alabama and a good man. I feel like they would take that way too far. I feel like houndstooth, like they would find a way to culturally protect houndstooth maybe as like a historical artifact in a museum of such sort and you couldn't do anything with it. The idea of the buyer, the idea of the buyer, you can't say anything bad about, uh, about, uh, he's like the king, he's like the king of Thailand, right? Like you can't. The name of God you can't speak. Yeah, like he's Baltimore. He's Baltimore, except we revere him instead of fear. He's good, Voldemort.

It's Voldemort. I think that's... He who used to be named. Vald a sport. Actually, Voldemort. We don't say his name because he's got VAL in it. He's got VAL in it, dang it. Roll Tad.

Trash. But yeah, Jokin Wist, a German, was the man who set the fire. Which, I really am waiting for Auburn fans to begin lobbying to stop this dangerous influx of German migrants. I somehow don't... There's a wall along the Atlantic coast. I somehow don't think that's going to be the reaction. Just color me shocked that that won't be the reaction.

But we won't have the war eagle like, listen, they struck us. It was an act of terror. It was to the trees, the venerable objects that we call the trees. No, listen, we're laughing here. But Auburn had a drone deliver the game ball. So they are clearly doing some sort of weapons test, ballistics exercises. they're mobilizing on the planes and my man

from Germany may have just lit the ship and I'm not ready for full out all out drone assault via Auburns, planesmen, tigers, war evil whatever. Hey, dropping their dog bombs. Well, I'll tell you what about that drone

travels accurately to the air, don't it? Huh? Gus, you're taking notes? Huh? Yeah, that's an air game for you. It don't run out of bounds on fourth down, Gus. Actually, Gus is probably like, can you program a quarterback like that? Can I just sit here with a controller and just do that? That'd be helpful.

That'd be very helpful. I'd like that. The question I have, too, about Auburn LSU, if we can get the crib notes version, okay, the extremely concise TLDR version of this for no one who saw is this, that both coaches entered this game like fired, right? Like whoever loses this game is pretty much fired, correct? eventually like we we we designed we joked about this ahead of time well on this program we said yeah whoever loses is done because we we have no um no one no one cares what we stay but at sp nation

proper we put up a graphic that was like it was like a boxing match like loser gets fired eventually like we added the eventually in there um because we failed to have faith in college football basically in the absurd direction right failed to learn the lesson that I think the central theme of this particular program and like the elevated wisdom that we have over and most others is that the joke is always real. The joke about college football is always the truth. We don't joke on this show. Loser gets fired. That's what happened.

Facts only. Hachtacks only. Like Jay Z said on Twitter that one time he tweeted. The problem was there was an amount of faith that was not placed in Auburn. Jesus. And it had been a while since Auburn Jesus had blessed the plains with benevolence and blessings. But the first mistake that LSU made was allowing room for Auburn Jesus to come to the hearts of 85,000 people on Saturday night. And he entered. And with righteous vengeance and furious anger, did he assert his will on that game? Are you saying LSU has unconfessed sin in

life? Might need to go to church. Take him to church, Coach, Oh, he can't. On an airboat. Actually, given his past and what he does when he comes in, he's going to take him to church as.

And Popeyes. Both the same day. How many people do you think in the state of Louisiana every Sunday get to church via airboat? 30. Now, that's a high number.

Like, think about it. 30 people actually going to church by airboat. That's a lot. Yeah, that's their mode of stuff. That's how they get around. I would also ask

Yeah, this game was good. Yeah, so they basically have a second that runs off. They snap the ball with zero seconds. Danny Etling. Danny Etlin, the salvation that Brandon Harris was not at quarterback, throws a, what's a brilliant TD catch, right?

throws a pass. And a brilliant TD. catch for yet another heartbreaking last minute defeat of Auburn by LSU that was not in fact a defeat because he snapped it with zero seconds on the clock. That's our TLDR version, right? I can see you twitching, Jason, but yeah, that's the TLDR version. And like four other things, there was an LSU player who wasn't set. Danny Etling was like inches from being over the line of scrimmage when he threw it. The ball was barely caught. Like, if LSU had won this game, it would have been like 18 degrees of bullshit and the fact that Auburn did is the same like this is

the most no team deserved to win this game I've ever seen and I loved every second of it wasn't there was I don't even know who the receiver was like there was a receiver like on shoulders like being carried out like I was sitting with our colleague Dan Rubinstein watched me into this game and he was like so like do they just drop him like what do they do like because we like quickly realized that like that was not going to stand and so what we're going to do just like drop him or That's just going to be really awkward. Now, as bad as this experience, I've talked to two people who are at the game already today. And as bad as the experience or as enjoyable as the experience was for those of us who just wanted a train wreck in the stands, Bafleck.

No one had a clue what happened. You couldn't see live. Most of the stadium couldn't see the winning TD or whether it was in. Most of them weren't watching the clock and assumed it was good when it was revoked. Nobody had a clue it was going on. So please, imagine the mortal terror for all of these awful. fans watching this happen and somebody says oh that bad thing that just happened to you no no no it never happened it's like the end of a hitchcock movie where you're unsettled and suddenly they're

like no it's all fine we're happy and you're like i still don't believe you like that's that's what happened live and is the top gonna stop spinning or not i have to know in this rivalry the top never stop spinning this rivalry there's there there there is no top because everyone's it's kind in the middle of the SECU.S. So, yeah, so we've heard, when did Ross, Ross Delinger of the advocate in Louisiana reported this first that Miles, first it was a report that leadership was meeting. And I think the next report was like 30 minutes later, like, yeah, he's gone. No, no, it was like leadership is meeting and like within the next 24 hours.

Yeah. Like they're going to figure something out. So like, oh, like Monday lunchtime, like, oh, this is fine. And like, yeah, 30 minutes to maybe an hour later, like, out, out, gone. Are you kidding me? Well, okay. Yeah, it was a good meeting. It was a productive, efficient meeting.

I have to write something on this, but I do want to point out the irony of one. Yeah, this is the same nightmare. Less Miles has had over and over again, which is a struggling offensive team pulling out a victory at the bell, right? at the one second mark to sort of save LSU's and his ass. And he didn't get that this time. So I think it's like there's great irony for me in his firing being completely a rhythmic, right? And at the last second, like not even at the last second, just out of nowhere.

Like, what? No, we've seen enough. Bye. Like week four and you're gone. That's very on point for his entire career at LSU, where he won a national title with a 10 and 2 team. where time and time again he defied the laws of physics,

gravity, and time to win and sometimes lose games at LSU. It makes total sense when somebody's like, man, that's weird, it got fired in week four. No, no, this is exactly what Les Miles would be fired. And my favorite thing was Bruce Feldman's tweet

that LSU leadership wanted to fire him now before he could somehow claw his way back to survive. But you know if they said, okay, we'll fire him at the end of season this motherfucker's going 10 and 2 is what's happening because as soon as you say we got to fire him he is now invincible he's he's super less what's the what's the dragon ball thing what's the word i don't know super richard you're young probably know super seon sir yeah that that that's that's the glowing

hair and all that that that's that's when that happens but uh blowing hat yeah yeah yeah he knew they had to just cut the snake's head off. I do like this, too, that if you'll recall, he is the first, he's the first coach I can remember who survived a political attack by the, like, official power apparatus of his state. And you know they'd come back, but you have to admire Les Miles for surviving several important members of the government saying, yeah, L.S., you got to go. And then they're like, nah, not. It's funny.

And he's a Yankee, too. That's got to get him. Oh, yeah. He's from Illyria, he's from Illyria, Ohio. That's why he talks like that. And that's why he almost got the Michigan job, which, like, there's a pivot in history. If you want to look at Michigan, kind of dodged a bullet, maybe.

There, 2007, where Rich Rod, like, do they or do they, right? Like, is that a point? I mean, it wouldn't, it wouldn't have been worse. we don't know it might not work just fine it might have it was like what what's what's his style you're going to play defense you're going to have a good offensive line and there's going to be no one behind the offensive line like that's good for nine and three in the big ten especially that big ten like 2007 big ten oh yeah

would have been a whole different thing now man urban mire coming to sweep less miles out of that michigan job just with the broom pushing that's that's less miles in the big ten in 2016 with jim harbos and Urban Meyer. Because Harbaugh would probably get like, he'd probably just take like the Penn State job to piss Michigan off, right? So which Big Ten school now overreacts

and fires his coaching in order to hire less miles? Penn State. Bye, James. Sorry. Wow. That was funny. That was funny, but, hmm.

Yeah, let's think on that for a second. Can I? Let's think on that. I ask you something? Does he have a big white hat already? That he does. That he does. It's already got the stuff. I'm just saying. That's, you know, that's like half the

job, right? Do you have the stuff you need? Do you have a back brace? Show up at the warehouse. Got a big white hat? Let's show up at Penn State. There you go. James Franklin doesn't have a back brace. Pretty sure. And then James Franklin to Vandy. We're good. We got everything figured out. Derek Mason just takes the decent.

job there like yeah i'm sorry i'm sorry i didn't just coming back to crash with mom and dad yeah so with this the lSU job is inexplicably open leaving not inexplicably the timing is weird but it makes sense when you think about it because ls u they had to get less out as soon as they possibly could because yeah he was going to rally because he's semi-immortal not immortal semi-immortal and he's already survived one serious attempt to push him out. So they had to do this fast. Second, they got rid of Cam Cameron, which, man, Cam Cameron, every time I've seen Cam Cameron,

like, Cam Cameron fired has to have one of the strongest correlations in Google history, right? If you're like, how many search results do you get? It's like you get nine billion results. Like Cam Cameron's been fired from jobs coordinating the West Indian cricket team. Like he's like, like you type Cam Cameron, the auto correct is like, fired firing buyout contract gone terminated like when they say you know hey listen man if you know if you haven't been fired as a coach it'll eventually happen right there's two kinds of coaches those who've been fired and those will eventually be fired I'm like there's a

third category cam cameron somebody who's probably like been super fired and mega fired and thrown into the sun and you know locked out of his office that's that decision like when we look back at SEC coaches who get fired the offensive coordinator higher that goes sideways is got to be like the number one cause of death i feel like with i feel like people are like forgetting that cam cameron is fired i mean i understand like everybody's you know less amounts to the big ticket but like y'all got the real problem out and the maybe problem out at the same time that's impressive oh yeah i'm proud of that for lSU um that's high level louisiana yeah no you did you did like a full

you did like a full like basically like bloody Sunday you just swept everyone out of the office at once leaving only what the defensive staff really that's that's what's in charge some position coaches and the defensive staff oh and they didn't even wait till like a buy

like they play a game in six days yeah like that's how that's how fed up like you have a game in six days we're going to do a new coach now which to be fair if you take them out couldn't you, me, or Jason, do a pretty good, like, simulation of what Cam Camry would call. You're like, okay, here we go.

I'm going to get Leonard Fournett 58 carries on a bad ankle. There we go. And then just throw the ball real high. Yeah. That's it. We're good. Throw a couple of comebacks. Throw the ball a little high.

Yeah, one of us doing that, and then the other, another of us could be less. We can do this. We can pull in $6 million between the three of us. Yeah, that's one million for you, one million for you. 4 million for me. This is working really well. I'm playing less. That's fine. That's fine. Yeah, the best part is this is actually how management in college football works. That's a great idea, guys. I'm going to get 4 million for this, and you guys get one L each. It's actually an SEC West. Yeah. By the way, it's only 600,000 after

taxes. Don't go crazy. So with this, Ed Orgeron is interim head coach. Ed Orgeron, maybe the most like, what, qualified interim coach? When you look at his record as an interim because he's already done this. My problem here is like he's not going to get this job. Like we are going to get our hopes up and we are going to be really excited that they might go to a sugar bowl and all this kind of stuff and it'll be peak Louisiana.

They are going to carry him out on their shoulders and he is not going to get this job. And people are going to be pissed. My heart is already breaking because we were sad enough when he resuscitated USC and followed old grumpy Lane Kiffin and like giving the players cookies and all that and they loved him and he's like writing writing personal notes to the band and uh you know went from from cranky grouchy eddo who wanted to fight Stephen godfrey to um you know lovable lovable uh swamp uncle of college football

now he's gone to LSU Ed O LSU head coach is a dream we have all spent the past decade building toward it's now so close there's just one word there and I don't think we're going to get past it the word is interim

it's just tantalizing and Richard you're absolutely right this is going to hurt it'll hurt now and the worst part and best part and best part of this is that Ed Orgeron in addition to maturing

and being a really great interim coach, right, and doing a good job with USC and being, yes, the exact opposite of what he was at Old Miss, right? My favorite story about him at Old Miss was when they had a daytime, they had a fireworks display that was supposed to take place at night, but Old Miss's record was so bad they got moved to the noon slot, but they did the fireworks display anyway.

Like, that's the Ad Orgeron tenure at Old Miss in a nutshell. I was talking with an Old Miss alum who was there at the time, And he goes, yeah, I just expected Ed to walk out and himself and be like, out of hell with it. I'm going to light it with a cigarette. Let's be out here. Screw it. Life's over anyway. Y'all watch these fireworks.

Eat my ass. Bye. But he's going to be great and he won't get the interim job meeting. LSU now has to point the money canon, right? Because LSU will spend money if nothing else on football. And they have to point the money canon at a coaching candidate. And my prediction is that they're going to strike out heartily on a couple of these for real good reasons that don't have much to do. But they're first up, it's open water for them, right?

There's nothing in front of them in terms of competitors who are openly shopping for coaches. I have two things on this. One, I want to talk about people who could take this job. And two, I want to remind you that this could trigger firings at an earlier and more sudden, dramatic and foolish rate than ever before. What if we just started firing coaches like during camp? I don't think it's going to work out. You got to go. You lost the spring game.

Illinois did it. Yeah, Illinois did this. Illinois has done this two of the last three years, two years in a row, something like that. Yeah. They always count on Illinois. They're firing fresh. And then when Lovie leaves for the, well, We always send coaches to the Chargers on this program,

so when Levy leaves for the Chargers. Then they'll have to do this again. Tom Herman, the top news list. And if Texas and A&M do not pop to use the coaching lingo. LSU, man. Or basically any coach ever, even though they're only going to hire like Steve Sarkesian Jr., Steve Sarkesian's son, or maybe like Marshaun Lynch, because he knows Pete Carroll or... He didn't go to USC, though. He knows Pete Carroll.

At this point, USC is not that large of a school. It's not UCF. You know, it's not that sprawling of a campus. You're running out of... Thank you for putting that into Florida for me, by the way. Floridian terms. That brings to mind my favorite big 12. graphic, which from UCF's Big 12 pitch, which was showing the list of schools that Florida

high school students want to go to when they're freshmen, when they're sophomores, when they're juniors, and when they're seniors. And it's like Harvard, Yale, Florida, Princeton, and then it moves, and here comes UCF Creep from up the list. That's reality sinking in, and by the time they're seniors, it's like, Florida, UCF. Look, that was my senior year of high school. See, so I graduated from Florida for the listeners. I did not get into Florida on my first truck.

I had to appeal Florida, and I ended up starting school at Florida in my freshman spring instead of my freshman fall after winning an appeals process. But there was a point in time when Florida hadn't gotten back to me on an appeal, and I had applied to UCF as the safety. and my mom was like, look, you're going to go to UCF. Like, we tore, we went down there, we toured a weekend, and, like, I was essentially resigned to my fate that, like, I was going to go to UCF. And then Florida came back, and the rest is history. But, yeah, like, I went through the stages of Florida high school senior, and we, acceptance was UCF.

I enjoy the greatest part of the high school disappointment, and I think, what's the word, coming to terms with where you're actually going to go to university college or not, right, is the two weeks when everyone has decided to just embrace whatever it is. We had one guy who did not get into Florida, did not get into Florida State. I think later he became a crack dealer in Statesboro, from what I heard. Okay. Yeah, but he got into Georgia Southern. As one does. Yeah. And I think he applied to Georgia once.

Somebody said, you can apply to Georgia Southern. Georgia Southern. And he goes, I'm going to apply to Georgia, man. Maybe they'll take. No, he didn't. This dude was not. He was an enormous Lint Biscuit fan and not really bright. And he got into Georgia Southern.

So for two weeks, he was like, yeah, man, Statesboro. It's lit. It's going to be great. Statesboro is going to be incredible. It's going to be so good. And then like three years later. It was like, so what was up with him? He was like, I don't know.

He had some legal trouble. I think he's selling crack or weed or weed and a crack. I don't know. Do you think he still claims the 2013 result over Florida? You're damn right, he does. I would. Right? If I'm sitting there in the Sunglass Hut and the mall in Tampa as this guy probably is,

you know, he's like, yeah, I'm a manager now. It's not bad. It's good life. It's cool. You know, I go to Booms Day. Got benefits. Yeah, it's cool. I go to Booms Day.

It's not bad. Yeah, like I would totally claim that. I'd be like, yeah, man. Cool, yeah, Georgia Southern. That's my team. Did you graduate from there? No, funny story. I had some legal trouble

I hateers encountered haters yeah haters haters everywhere that's when you know like what's what he goes man haters I'm like oh you got a record of some sort let's talk about this

I mean it might not be specifically legal right but it'd be like wow you've got some injunctions you you Welsh done some contracts didn't you haters the now you have some tax lien son Yeah, no, you've got some heavy ass tax liens, haters. DeKalb County, total haters.

City of Atlanta, haters. IRS is haters. Oh, man, nothing but haters. That's what the eye stands for is hater. It's an Arabic spelling of it, you know, the original. The, who takes this job? Not who do they want. I mean, we can talk about who they want, but who walks into this and goes, yeah, I can twirl this.

Uh, Art Browles wants it. Yeah. Don't, don't do that at LSU. Don't, please, no, please don't do that. Yeah. Well, Bobby Petrino, there you go. Oh, God.

I think we've hired him for every SSU.S job now. You know, Lamar Jackson, let's see. He's not three years out of high school yet, so he can't leave yet. So Petrino won't go until Lamar Jackson is done. Just make Lamar Jackson, the head coach at LSU. This is a brilliant plan. You want quarterbacking, don't you? There's no rule against it.

Does LSU have a realistic shot of landing Tom Herman? Because this is the number one candidate, I think, for any open candidacy in college football, either now or in the future until he either decides to stay at Houston or leave. see i am i'm the biggest idiot in our industry or maybe i'm just the biggest sucker because i do think he's just going to stay at houston you're not you're not you're not alone especially if they get into big 12 honestly if they get in the big 12 i think he's going to stay there because the one thing that oh like houston's like a group of five with ball blah like houston's got money and people don't understand that these oil dudes in houston got the money there's money in texas

Jason, is this a possibility? Oh, yeah, sorry. I was doing something totally irrelevant to this podcast. Yeah. I mean, it's, I don't, honestly, it's hard to see him sticking around another year at Houston. Staying at one was, you know, I feel like that's the honorable thing to do. Just checking in for one year. Like, yeah, I get it.

Go get money, but it's always a little gross. sticking around for more than two feels like pushing your luck a little bit if you don't get that school into the Big 12 if you do then I guess all bets are off because hey Houston's got more money now Houston's a better job now Houston's going to get like you're already beating some Big 12 schools in recruiting now you're going to beat more if they get into the Big 12 then I would say like maybe that pushes it up to like 55% chance he stays you know but still even if Houston's in the Big 12 LSU is a better job with more money, with, like, way more money to spend, with, you know, better recruiting resources than even a school in Texas because they have a top five recruiting state all to themselves, and he can still recruit the shit out of Houston, because he's not far. I mean, honestly, out of the jobs that could conceivably open, to me, LSU seems like the best fit, and just plain, you know, playing the best choice if you're Tom Herman. And obviously he's smarter than I am in this regard, but I mean, I would, as an idiot, I would put them number one on Herman's hypothetical list if he were to ask me, not that he ever would.

I tend to agree with both of you. I think that, yeah, he should probably take the LSU job. And I say that because unless he's planning to do something, which I think there's probably, if I can think in the past 30 years, there may be two or three coaches that have done this, which has become the self-contained cornerstone of a program, right? Frank Beamer did it at Virginia Tech. Bobby Bowden did it before him at Florida State, starting, you know, in the late 70s after leaving West Virginia. And, you know, to a much lesser extent, but still with a good long run, Pat Hill at Fresno State, these are coaches who were at a place for so long that they

became the program itself. And I don't see Herman doing that. because that's a really, really risky bet, particularly when given he could be the victim of his own success and raise standards at Houston and miss that paycheck and miss the ability to either deliver the program to like whatever it will be in the next stage or to take it and take that money he could get and get a much bigger deal at LSU

where, yeah, sure, you can give me three to five and we'll see where it goes. And in the meantime, I'll make enough money to keep my family secure and safe for a lifetime. Look, LSU, here's the thing. You're used to bludgeoning offense, and I think you're okay with a relative level of playing fast and loose with NCAA rules. All I'm saying is Jim Tressel's show cause ends in December. That is very valuable information. That is very good to know.

Yeah. I mean, and think about this. Really big 10y coaches. And a good coach, a great coach, for a given value of bludgeony, uncreative football, right? Jim Tressel was great at Ohio State. Also, you need a coach who is very comfortable working with levels of academia and state government, as Les Miles' tenure has demonstrated. Guess what Jim Tressel's current job is? He is the president at Youngstown State or something like that, is he not?

It's something like that. Yeah, sounds about right. Yeah. And then if you can't get him, speaking of Youngstown, second week in a row, we recommended this. We recommended this on the last podcast, but somebody with extensive LSU experience, that'd be one, Bozif Polini. You know, the other name that is often thrown around for LSU is Jimbo. He's been there before. And, like, I don't know, we always tend to just say, like,

oh, well, he's spent a few years there a decade. to go he might want to come back because like that's how people work sure uh everybody does that in their real life um when mama calls yeah like if publics wants to hire me by y'all i'm gone because i i worked there a decade ago uh but you know jimbo comes home polini comes home just get the entire like 2004 staff back together under one roof they'll be so happy and they can all lose to their old boss They can all lose to their old boss. Trying to play the exact same style of football, their old boss does.

See, this is actually a palace intrigue by Les Miles. He's getting all of his enemies and former allies in the same place so he can stage his own red wedding, or he just embarrasses them. You've got to watch me at a press conference. Say how awesome I am. So is this Les Miles as Kentucky head coach beats LSU? oh man don't don't let's not do that to less like i'm i'm legit sad about this because i don't think it was unnecessary to fire him but at the same point i'm i'm a little sorrowful that this particular meeting of coach school and circumstance is over because think about it what coach in retrospect

would have been better to manage a school that actually wasn't in residence at the time of his first game thanks to Katrina, right? That they had to go to Arizona State to play his first game. That when he gets back, and this is a true story, Fats Domino is sleeping on Jamarcus Russell's couch because Baton Rouge, yeah, Baton Rouge had that many evacuees. So getting back from an LSU game, Jamarcus Russell, like, walks in and there's Fats Domino on his couch, and Jamarcus Russell's like, hey, what's up? How are you doing?

I'm not really sure what's going to happen to me when I go in the NFL, and if I knew I'd start crying right now like that's that's the circumstance that less miles entered and in retrospect like who better to like stick his face in that chaos and be completely unperturbed than less miles and the guy who was yeah he's the centerpiece of that 2007 season which is my favorite season in the history of this sport because everything went sideways he's the only person i've ever seen who just called the press conference to yell at us and i mean yell at the press at anyone listening just cut a promo he cut a wrestling promo right in front of everyone covering that game i think it was like my second or third credential ever and he walks in and he's like have a great

day like are they all like this is this how this goes no i was spoiled it wasn't are they all interesting and fun no no no man are they all going to make videos where they're like you know blocking shots of their daughter and you know after they dye their hair and regain their youth? No. Less is different and less is bizarre. Yeah. Having one of your first pressers be a less miles presser, that's like when I very first got into sports and I was told to be a Georgia Tech fan and the very first season I watched was 1990. Yeah, I mean, my people come from here. So yeah, I got thrown into that until I escaped. But my very first football season was 1990 when Tech won the national title. So I thought, oh,

it'll always be like this. No. No. But, yeah, we'll all miss less. I mean, on the field and off, like LSU fans, I'm sure, you know, I'm sure it's bittersweet in a lot of ways. I'm sure they, you know, most of them seem to feel it was, if not time, close enough to time to say it's time. Or past, yeah.

Yeah, either passed or close enough to say, like, we might as well just go ahead. Just this particular loss, like you can say, oh, if there was another second or two, they would have won, and then they wouldn't have fired him. And that's just kicking it down the road because it was just emblematic of every single thing that's gone wrong. There was no offense.

There was no quarterbacking. The end of the game got very strange. And it sucks. No one's thrilled about it. But it was probably, if not the right decision, yet eventually the right decision. I mean, when they brought him back, like we should have seen this coming. Like, we just should have seen it ending poorly.

Like, it's just 2010, Florida. Like, they didn't fire Urban Meyer, obviously. But, like, Urban Meyer left, and then he didn't, and then the year was just a slog, and then he left. Like, you know, whatever. Still beat Georgia, though. Woo! When has that ever worked?

Coach leaves, comes back immediately, and everything's okay? Besides Kansas State? yeah that was and that took like what that was two or three years yeah several years it was two years two years two glorious years at the ron prince it was only two dude it seemed like a lot longer it seemed like forever yeah texas though he did run ron frince could do two things he can get a contract he can beat texas man that's it i remember i watched that game eating lukewarm oysters in a uh in the flavit field parking lot outside of an RV after a game. That's delicious.

Go wild cats. Did you get food poisoning? No, I was all right. Deal. Man, see? That's Ron Prince working for you. The power of Prince. I wanted to,

we talked about less for a long time. There are a couple of other games I think we need to touch on in review. The one I wanted to mention was Texas A&M and Arkansas. This was a SEC West matchup where I think we wanted to see if Texas A&M could

be as consistent as we might imagine them to be, like in our wildest dreams that Texas A&M could put together several complete games in a season. And they did. Somehow, this was a tight game going into the late third. And then, you know, they just dropped 28 points in about 16 minutes of play all at once, via turnovers, via long pass plays, via Trevor Knight, not having a spy on him. Not once. Trevor Knight ran for like 100. I think he averaged, I think he had 10 carries for 150 plus yards. So a healthy 15 yard per carry average. Just a really unusual game because Arkansas had several points where they were six inches from scoring and did not. Which I guess that's a testament to, I'll take it as a testament to Texas A&M because that seems like the kind of game where

Arkansas should have had every single one of those scores and yet did not get them. Yeah, it felt like both teams were being almost characters of themselves. except for that one key thing like Arkansas went on a 10 minute drive that produced no points 19 19 plays 10 minutes and six inches from scoring and did they score no we uh we tweeted from the as one of the espion accounts uh like so what's the record for longest drive without scoring and every reply was like uh a variation of my wife left me like i drove to meet this girl and it It got real sad. And that's a bad sign when people are replying to something about your best drive of the game

with tales of romance gone wrong, because that's what it was for Arkansas. Just, it was literally borderline erotic. The erotic was never, never consummated at all. I will say driving 90 yards and almost scoring, it's not on brand. And so in true Arkansas fashion, it's Walmart brand. Yes, sir. Sam's Sam's Club

Sam's What is a great Great value Great value Brett Beelam And just like a Walmart Just like a Walmart Just like a Walmart product

Falls apart in about 16 minutes That's that's exactly what happened to Arkansas There we go Got you a segue Let's ride it The other The other game That I wanted to just briefly touch on

Because I think A&M is good I think the takeaway from that is Okay they're This entire experiment with Trevor Knight who, yeah, Trevor Knight gets to play Alabama, y'all. Again. Oh, wow.

He's back. He's still in the league. And he gets to play Alabama again, probably on a week when everything conspires to make Alabama as weak as they're ever going to be. The other game that I wanted to touch on that might have some sort of import. And Jason, you can just, I don't know,

you can go, you can go saw something. You can go hammer some stuff. While we talk about this. Bye, y'all. I'm going to run some errands. I don't want to talk about this. Florida lost to Tennessee for the first time since 2004. This was the longest win streak, save Kentucky, I believe. And Vandy.

All right, we got a couple of those. But yeah, actually, not Vandy. Remember, Vandy beat us at home in the James Franklin era. Yeah. So, yeah, since the Kentucky Street. We lost to Tennessee. We lost to Tennessee after Jalen Tabor, not calling you your nickname this week, basically, you know, trash talk Tennessee. After Quincy Wilson said that, have you ever seen a duck pull a truck?

That was what he said about Tennessee beating Florida. And then Oregon filmed the duck, in fact, pulling a truck. And then the duck literally pulled the truck as they beat us 38, 28, 28 dropping 38 points. on Florida, almost all of it in the second half. I'm at the end of this sentence and physical pain is creeping into my body. I will say this. I

think my life as it pertains to Florida football has finally come full circle. The first time this sport made me feel anything was in 2001 when the 9-11 postponed Florida Tennessee

game was played in December and Travis Stevens ran for like 700 yards. That's an exact number, yeah. And beat Florida by himself and knocked Florida out of the national championship race. It doesn't matter that they would have gotten trounce by 2001. Miami, I don't care. That was the first time football made me feel.

So for the last four or five years, as I've been building some semblance of a career as a, quote, unquote, journalist, you know, you kind of have to bury the Florida fandom, you know, for the sake of professionalism, et cetera, et cetera. You kind of become removed and stuff like that. It does happen. But, you know, this year, you know, you get a new job and a job where fandom's kind of encouraged and, you know, hey, Florida looked pretty good against Kentucky and that defense is really good. It doesn't matter who you're playing sisters of the poor.

Like, they, like, they're pretty dominant. So, like, yeah, like, this is going to be kind of cool. Like, okay. So I allowed myself to feel again. and this was my biggest mistake. And Tennessee crushed me again. Yeah, we can't even blame international terrorism for this one. Ben Laden.

This one ain't on you. Butch Lodden. Hey, he's a venerable object in the state of Tennessee along with Stuckies. Okay, so you can't. The one thing, though, like, it wasn't even, it wasn't even like, it was a slow. burn in a sense of like time wise but like it wasn't in a sense of like once once it got going it were like okay like i see how this is going like when florida strung those like three i mean it was like five straight three and outs but like on like the third three and out it was kind of like

okay like i see i see how this is going to go this is how this is going to end it's okay i'm resigned to my state yeah the the MVP's for tennessee by far the defensive line the defensive line was incredible offensive line. The offensive line handled Florida's vaunted defensive line for the most part, if you watch it. There weren't many pressures on Josh Dobbs, and when there were, he skated out of them pretty

easily to throw up downfield, way downfield into busted coverages. If, like, I looked at it briefly, like, flashing through it earlier today, there's not just one thing. Florida collapsed. Completely collapsed. And I mean from a total perspective,

it was... I think that play calling it was quarterback play it was the offensive line it was the defense it was everything yeah everybody most of the text messages i got last night were about the play calling um but that like what do you want man like what do you want it's i bet austin appably's a really nice kid um you don't start at peru for a reason you don't start at florida for a reason like sorry and i think he played very well in the first half There's, there's, I even wrote in the story, like, not even just capable, like, he looked good in the first half. Um, but Bob Schoom's not an idiot. And Tennessee got it figured out pretty good.

Um, and well, you know, there they are. And, you know, Florida looked. It was, it was a, it was such a drastic and immediate role reversal. Like, it wasn't, it, like, after that first interception Tennessee had, um, to start the third quarter, like, that's when it flipped and both teams just swapped and that was it yeah yeah also there's this uh if you look at most teams it took a total ass whipping this weekend uh they did it at the hands of experience quarterbacks funny how that keeps happening josh tobs senior delivering well we have a graduate transfer in austin apple we making a start after not starting at per due for a while and yeah

that's going to happen another game because um i'm going to to rupture something if i continue to talk about how tennessee beat us despite the fact that they're a lesser program and lesser humans the the other one that stuck in my mind as oh wow this is what happens when a senior quarterback is due and your team is mad because they've blown consecutive 21 point losses so they get to go home and just store all that anger and drink and drink and wait until someone taps in their shoulder and says hey can i have this bar stool and that team was old miss oh miss humphreys just

Hugh freeze normally wants him to forgive but he let him stew on this one yeah look Hugh freeze brought the old testament out on the dogs um I like like I wrote

we put a post gamer up on on that game too and I essentially just said like look like you could like we can joke about them being up 31 nothing and it being you know precariously perched or whatever but it wasn't i mean they beat the dog snot out of them and kept doing it the entire game to a point like i was sitting in dan's living room and like dan looks up and he's like

chad kelly's like kind of running but like not really like chad kelly's like it's it's a swift jog on the qby keepers because even he is taking mercy on georgia because of the wiffen i this was a joy to watch because chad kelly had as one of my favorite QB reflexes, which is in trouble, pressured, steps forward, where's the ball going, 40 yards down field. You can see him, like the minute he gets in trouble, he starts to get happy because he's like,

I get to throw it deep. Like he loves that. And he did that to Georgia over and over and over again, always to someone who was six to her over, taller than Georgia's DBs, and in possession of the ball when his butt hit the turf. Just like, I loved watching that

because it was something that Georgia, A, could not handle by personnel and B, that Chad Kelly so clearly loves doing. Like, yeah, you know, this is supposed to be like a 10-yard in, but I got to throw it deep! Like, he's got the spirit of every great, fuck-it, I'm-going deep quarterback ever. And I love watching that in a situation

where Old Miss gets to keep doing it and hold that lead. And I think hand Georgia, like an unsuspecting Georgia, its first real serious defeat under Kirby Smart, not just on the board, but the first time that they just got, you have to do this when you have a new coach, you're just going to have one game where you get absolutely flattened. You're baptized Jacob Eason in the name of the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit. No, no, no, no, no.

We don't think it's just this baptism is a serious thing. We need water to do it. So we've got to do it at a school that's next to a river. I like that Mark Rick's ranked ahead of Georgia now Yeah Yeah for now That's another team by the way Like I didn't mention this in the top

Whatever but Miami I mean I saw them against App State They are very large and malicious and talented And they're playing like They're very relaxed You know Miami teams that are Al Golden Always just seemed like Very very uptight

Lemon booty from From the opening tip Yeah Yeah, like definitely Team Lemon Booty. They seemed as if they were Miami Hurricanes Under Al Golden always played like a man wearing a heavily start shirt in heavy weather at a tie, even though it was uncomfortable. Like, they really played like, and you know, Mark Rick,

he's a loose jacket man, right? He's got the, he's got the like easy breathe fabric shirt on in South Florida. He looks tanned, rested and ready. His team's played like that too. Mark Rickton, Aguio Vera on the beach. don't act like it's not working it's working Rick and Aguaya Barra I mean that that is a

that is a holy roller fashion like fantasy right there because he can he can wing that white right that's a guy who can wear a clean white shirt is Mark Rick after Labor Day too after labor it's Miami man that's true

we can wear white year round right canes are going to do it got them fancy new uniforms but I keep waiting for them to like you know they need to like step into their schedule and when they do I think they'll be pretty impressive. But we didn't get to say anything nice about them this week

other than, oh, your former coach got absolutely hammered or your replacement coach got hammered in the SEC West. Jason, you got another game that you got on your heart. Did you want to speak on? Not really. It wasn't that big of a week. Wisconsin stood on Michigan's head for three or four hours. Michigan State apologies.

don't send me any emails. I get a lot of emails about in the Sunday morning ball projections. I've had Michigan in the playoff for the past two weeks. Ohio State fans are so mad about this. And I even write in there like, listen, I'm just going to flop it all throughout the season.

It's a 50-50. I don't care that I don't see any. The schedule the games in Ann Arbor, Michigan's got an easier road. I think the two teams are just as good. I'll even put in there. don't email me it doesn't matter i'll still get email um so michigan fans now it's your turn but uh yeah uh wisconsin is uh it's pretty good i guess i don't think michigan state was

great but wisconsin's pretty good so that's cool uh Wisconsin Nebraska will get a good big 10 West game this year i guess yeah that i like the math of that because it actually solves me having to rank or consider one of them for potential greatness right like that game i finally get to see nebraska play a team that i'm convinced you just say y'all y'all You'll figure this out. Yeah, it's great. You just say it's like something, it's completely Midwestern where you go, well, we're going to have a mediation.

The two of you just present your stuff on the table, okay. I thought you're going to say mediation, like, we're both going to walk into the middle of the cornfield at night, and one of us is coming back. We're going to close the barn door until this is settled. Yeah, when in reality, what this does is that it happens in a shitty office park, right, at like a place with an office with terrible coffee and cheap chairs, right? And Mike Riley and Paul Chris, they'll figure out this whole thing, right? Like, okay, you get to keep the China.

They'll mediate this. That's how it's going to work. I do. I'm just picturing the sounds like, oh, you got me. Oh, gosh, that was a good one. You got me harder. Yeah. You give?

You give? We had some serious red-ass Midwestern. In our comments, we were making fun of their accents. They're like, oh, the Upper Midwest accent, it makes people mad. They say, oh, Southerners are making fun of accents now, huh? It's like, guess so. Guess so? Funny.

How's that feel? You don't like it, do you? Do you? Huh? Do you? I don't even, by the way, have you watched any of Fox's coverage this year with Wonstat? Oh, sure, sure. The FS1, every FS1 game, I feel like there should be a large sandwich right next to once that.

It would be perfect like a big old Pramani sandwich, right? Just, yeah. 19 kinds of ham that someone from Pennsylvania could tell you the difference, but I couldn't. He'd light up, too. He'd be like, oh, that's a sandwich. Oh, that's a good. The 19-syllable word. I love watching him now because I'd love watching him now because I,

just listen for his Pittsburgh accent, right? Like, that's all I, and if you've seen him, he's hulking. He's huge. Like, when they pull back, you know, Matt Linerd is next to him, and Matt Liner looks like a toddler. Dave Wonstadt is, he's like Chicago Bulls 90s center big. Like, he's that, he could have told me,

yeah, you know, Dave Wonstadt was one of that, like, three-parted, you know, like, tri-part center that won all those titles with Jordan. I'd be like, yeah, I believe you, yeah. I'm sure there's Wonstet dunking somewhere in there. He backed up Bill Cartwright. It's true. Yeah, no, he is Bill Cartwright.

Actually, that was his playing name. But the only other thing I can think to mention this weekend, other than it was the Pac-12 was a whirlwind of interest and error and really fun. UCLA is now rebranding itself as a tough physical team. So they lost to Stanford. Yeah. And punted late in a move that would have baffled. Anybody who had never watched David Shaw and his beloved punts coach football before it, when Stanford punted, like, that's their power move.

They're, like, oh, yeah, got that pun on. This was the annual edition of the weird Stanford move that pays off just fine. Last year was the Notre Dame game when in the last minute or two, I forget exactly what it was. Notre Dame scored, left Stanford too much time, something like that. But every year there's one game where it's like you just see David Shaw do something weird and it works and you say oh well Stanford he's smart sure he knew it would work yeah they end up scoring on a last minute TD following an inexplicable punt from I believe the UCLA 39 on fourth and one and they punt which would be appalling for anyone if you are not Stanford additionally

Washington hey either you all know anything about Washington people keep rank at them you know anything you don't right they just keep sneaking up they beat records They might not have beaten a bowl team yet. And now they get to play at Stanford. So we'll figure some things out rapidly. My two Washington takes are this. Chris Peterson's supposed his name really weirdly. And Buda Baker's good.

I don't know if Buda Baker still in school or not. But he's good. Yes, yes, he is. Yeah, he's great. That's great. I don't know if he's in school either, but he's really great. Yeah. It was actually really fun watching them against Arizona because you go,

oh, look, this is a Chris Peterson team. It was the first time I'd watched a Washington team where I thought, this looks like an old Boise State team, right? I can't exactly figure out exactly why they're good on offense, but they keep getting eight-yard runs. They keep getting open passes somehow, right? Like, I don't know how they're doing this, but it's great. I don't know why.

Washington, like, Washington is always just, like, so forgotten by me. Like, I pay attention to Washington State. I pay attention with both organs, Boise, like, everything, like, out there. Like I got a beat on except for Washington. I think it's probably the recent history of Washington football keeping you for being interested in Washington. That's probably the thing doing it. Also in the Pac-12, Arizona State, also undefeated.

Yeah. Wow. Like, no, this is now like noteworthy, right? Before it was like, oh, they're two and no. Like, yeah, they're not supposed to be all that. Yeah, they're three. No, no, this is real and you should be alarmed. They're four and oh.

Yeah. this was one that I knew it in my mind but it wasn't until I read it in your top whatever that it really sunk in like they should be ranked yeah sure like they've kind of hit their win total for the year already they were completely rebuilding

their rebuild was on the scale of Ohio states and they do not have five star recruits taking the place I have no idea how they're four or no other than the pack field's really really really really weird and they're able to score a lot of points so cool yeah that's the two word explanation there we go Caleb Blage They have a running back who scored eight TDs.

Now, eight kind of vultured TDs, but whatever. He scored eight TDs in a game. And he hurtled a man. I don't know if you saw the GIF. He hurtled a man, and they immediately show two Arizona State fans, two dudes, like wearing, you know, like, fork, yeah shirts going like like that. So if you watch it over and over again, hands over the mouth, like, oh my God. For anyone who didn't see Spencer there, and if you did, that's cool if you're watching us while we record this.

the um the the the the the sound that i think would would capture the visual was bro falling away from the mic uh the last game of note that i want everyone to remember is that uh james franklin's not a real good football coach here he's not as good how's this he's not he's maybe he's a real great recruiter i don't know what's happening on the field because penn state penn state didn't even they didn't even keep pace with with Michigan, although everyone on Michigan was real impressed at getting hit by a 270-pound kicker who likes to tackle stuff. That's the one takeaway.

When you go, what does Penn State have? You're like, they have a kicker who's so fat and mean that after the game, Michigan players were tweeting about, bro, that kicker's real. I have a lot of respect for Jordan Lewis, who is the player who was on the receiving end. I did not know. noticed this, who astutely noticed that Jabrille Peppers made a quote-unquote business decision to not put a block on the big bone punter. I have a lot of respect for that.

Jabrill Peppers knows his role. He knows, look, I got some money that's coming my way soon. I don't need to mess that up. I don't need to be on sports. I'm getting trucked by this kid in the top 10 for. years to come. So yes, Chabrelle Peppers, you made the first and probably best business decision

of your professional football career, which will come soon. Chabreel Peppers. Not ending up on a vine any time soon. Chabrele Peppers did not do it for the vine. Done. That's it. All right, we're done.